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"Veritasium" (YT) - "The Big Misconception About Electricity" ?
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adx:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 28, 2022, 01:12:07 pm ---(3) On page 31 Krafft says.......
... due to the bent trajectory of the veering aether.

(4) Podkletnov, on youtube & in papers ...
Smoke-movement ….... Tobacco smoke was whisked axially upwards  (ok).

DePalma too mentioned a loss of time, near a spinning wheel i think.

(5) It would i think be an easy University project to test for time dilation effects near the axle of a spinning disc. ... Ticking should slow at the north end (wind=V+v) & fast at the south end (wind=V-v) compared to ticking elsewhere in the lab (wind=V).

... I believe that the quartz crystal suffers length contraction & that this then affects the ticking ...

Modern better watches now use a solid crystal, & are much more accurate, but might not be as sensitive to LC, ie an old fashioned tuning fork crystal might give better (bigger) results.

... But in the case of a laboratory on Earth that escape velocity would need to be the sum of all escape velocities, ie including the Sun & Earth & Moon etc.  Not the nett escape velocity.  We need to use the total because photaeno-drag is due to the total photaeno flux fighting for the use of the aether, & this flux is additive. 
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The main experimental prerequisite seems to be having eaten a whole box of LSD or something before venturing into the lab.
aetherist:

--- Quote from: adx on February 28, 2022, 10:25:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on February 28, 2022, 01:12:07 pm ---(3) On page 31 Krafft says....... ... due to the bent trajectory of the veering aether.

(4) Podkletnov, on youtube & in papers ...
Smoke-movement ….... Tobacco smoke was whisked axially upwards  (ok).

DePalma too mentioned a loss of time, near a spinning wheel i think.

(5) It would i think be an easy University project to test for time dilation effects near the axle of a spinning disc. ... Ticking should slow at the north end (wind=V+v) & fast at the south end (wind=V-v) compared to ticking elsewhere in the lab (wind=V).

... I believe that the quartz crystal suffers length contraction & that this then affects the ticking ...

Modern better watches now use a solid crystal, & are much more accurate, but might not be as sensitive to LC, ie an old fashioned tuning fork crystal might give better (bigger) results.

... But in the case of a laboratory on Earth that escape velocity would need to be the sum of all escape velocities, ie including the Sun & Earth & Moon etc.  Not the nett escape velocity.  We need to use the total because photaeno-drag is due to the total photaeno flux fighting for the use of the aether, & this flux is additive. ...
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The main experimental prerequisite seems to be having eaten a whole box of LSD or something before venturing into the lab.
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I wonder whether it really was tobacco smoke.
penfold:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 28, 2022, 09:28:01 pm ---[...]
I am ok with old (deep electron drift) electricity, but i say that it is insignificant, compared to my new (surface hugging electon) electricity, which includes my new (surface electron flow) electricity.

The problem with electron drift electricity is that the speed of light in Cu is about 10 m/s, ie c/30,000,000, badly below c/1. And, it duznt explain how the speed of electricity in an insulated wire is 2c/3. 

Electron beams are ok, they are compatible with my elections.
[...]

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Is that all this 'theory' is resting on? Because, no, you're wrong, conventional EM theory predicts the speed of "electricity" in wires very well. In terms of voltage, current, dissipated energy and stored energy, conventional electricity explains it all, and the velocities at which they propagate, and it does it very well. Is that seriously the basis of your theory?

I'm actually disappointed, we were just getting to the good bit and we hadn't even got to causality where the real fun begins.
aetherist:

--- Quote from: penfold on March 01, 2022, 12:01:15 am ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on February 28, 2022, 09:28:01 pm ---[...]
I am ok with old (deep electron drift) electricity, but i say that it is insignificant, compared to my new (surface hugging electon) electricity, which includes my new (surface electron flow) electricity.

The problem with electron drift electricity is that the speed of light in Cu is about 10 m/s, ie c/30,000,000, badly below c/1. And, it duznt explain how the speed of electricity in an insulated wire is 2c/3. 

Electron beams are ok, they are compatible with my elections.
[...]

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Is that all this 'theory' is resting on? Because, no, you're wrong, conventional EM theory predicts the speed of "electricity" in wires very well. In terms of voltage, current, dissipated energy and stored energy, conventional electricity explains it all, and the velocities at which they propagate, and it does it very well. Is that seriously the basis of your theory?

I'm actually disappointed, we were just getting to the good bit and we hadn't even got to causality where the real fun begins.

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How do drifting electrons give c/1 for bare wire, & 2c/3 for insulated wire?
HuronKing:

--- Quote from: aetherist on March 01, 2022, 12:11:55 am ---
--- Quote from: penfold on March 01, 2022, 12:01:15 am ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on February 28, 2022, 09:28:01 pm ---[...]
I am ok with old (deep electron drift) electricity, but i say that it is insignificant, compared to my new (surface hugging electon) electricity, which includes my new (surface electron flow) electricity.

The problem with electron drift electricity is that the speed of light in Cu is about 10 m/s, ie c/30,000,000, badly below c/1. And, it duznt explain how the speed of electricity in an insulated wire is 2c/3. 

Electron beams are ok, they are compatible with my elections.
[...]

--- End quote ---

Is that all this 'theory' is resting on? Because, no, you're wrong, conventional EM theory predicts the speed of "electricity" in wires very well. In terms of voltage, current, dissipated energy and stored energy, conventional electricity explains it all, and the velocities at which they propagate, and it does it very well. Is that seriously the basis of your theory?

I'm actually disappointed, we were just getting to the good bit and we hadn't even got to causality where the real fun begins.

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How do drifting electrons give c/1 for bare wire, & 2c/3 for insulated wire?

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Do you know what "permittivity" means?
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