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| aetherist:
--- Quote from: adx on March 17, 2022, 01:58:27 am --- --- Quote from: aetherist on March 17, 2022, 12:38:25 am ---If it were not for the scientific godma of the Roman Catholic Church humans might have stood on the Moon in July 969, instead of July 1969. --- End quote --- What's wrong with that? Standing on the moon is dangerous. Humans are notoriously forgetful and complacent - one particularly impetuous and neglectful soul opens the door of Virgin's latest "Mary" spacecraft one fateful morning in 969, steps out onto the regolith, yawns and notices the water boiling off their tongue. 12 to 15 seconds later it's on the ground, mashing that face you just want to punch in that open mouth into the ground (at much reduced speed compared to Earth). "Gas expelled from their bowels and stomachs caused simultaneous defecation, projectile vomiting and urination. They suffered massive seizures." (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/survival-in-space-unprotected-possible) The stupidest human in the world (loose definition to that latter part) is retrieved by grappling lanyard, given oxygen at 1/10th Earth atm in the hopes of keeping them subdued, but not dead, which unfortunately is successful, even after deorbit jettison, reentry and headfirst landing in a Nevada desert right in front of a slow-scan TV crew (it's 969 after all), all because of that immensely thick skull. Massive lunar clean up costs trigger litigation which drags out for 1000 years due to space jurisdiction, and eventual release of the footage. What we got instead was experimentation on animals. --- End quote --- If we stood on the Moon in 969, then today would in effect be like 3022. In which case Earth today (2022) might be an overpopulated polluted hot wasteland, where everyone spoke Middle English, & Einsteinists launched raids on Flat-Earthers, & all did rue the day that some persecuted a wise handsome rugged softly spoken stranger from the east, who called hizself aetherist, & rue the day that some laughed at his erections electons, & his advanced spelling. |
| penfold:
--- Quote from: aetherist on March 17, 2022, 12:38:25 am ---[...] If it were not for the scientific godma of the Roman Catholic Church humans might have stood on the Moon in July 969, instead of July 1969. Einsteinian dogma might have a similar effect (but hopefully not 1000 years). Old (electron) electricity dogma might have a similar effect. Aether theory & new (electon) electricity theory might give us fusion power at an early date (i think never). Who knows. --- End quote --- So with modern-science, which includes the work of Einstein, society has achieved something. Aetherists have done nothing... there is nothing sane which has been developed within a framework of what you might call aether-theory. But, sure, on the surface, it's all dogma, both modern science and religion involve lots of lessons where the students are told facts and expected to believe them -- the separation occurs when students of science are able to further study the rational basis of theories, perform experiments, make observations and interpret the results and are encouraged to think for themselves -- whereas religion is an irrational interpretation of an irrational text which is reliant on suppressing free-thought. Your presentation of aether-theory is irrational and stems from irrational text -- it is dogma, the very definition of it. The reliance of aether-theory on malicious character assasination and your belief that there are such things as followers of Einstein is further evidence to that. You can change that though, if your-aether (not to be confused with urethra) is there to be found, find it, isolate it, test it. Learn some maths, develop the proofs, just do it. P.S. The remaining citizens of New Lorentzburg are still waiting for the electriciy system upgrade to 'new electrons'. The 'new language' problem is losing significance, as many New-Lorentzburgites are choosing to move to a neighbouring town, Maxwellington (strictly two sub-towns of Maxwellington-Lightside and Maxwellington-Heaviside, both under the jurisdiction and locality of Quantum View) Quantum View is an interesting town, because just out-side of the (classical) city limits of Maxwellington, there's many more towns where people are alowed to think for themselves. The townspeople of New Lorentzburg are still waiting for your opinion on the road-traffic incident that occured at the intersection of (the newly renamed) [cross-product West-Cruthers-Avenue-East and Up] and [cross-product I-Jay-Kay-NorthWest Boulevard and Down] (the citizens overwhelmingly prefered the pseudo-vector description), Driver A is claiming that the aetherwind must have changed, causing a red-shift in the green light and Driver B is claiming that all lights are red regardless of their colour, the observer claims the incident hadn't happened yet... the town is still in deadlock... the three remaining citizens still can't agree how to proceed at least. |
| PlainName:
--- Quote from: aetherist on March 17, 2022, 12:14:24 am --- --- Quote from: dunkemhigh on March 16, 2022, 11:46:13 pm ---OK, you got me. Is the misspelling just an affectation or is there some genuine reason for it? Normally one would use correct spelling and punctuation so that readers aren't confused about what's being said, and also because first impressions count for a lot, so giving the appearance of an uneducated yob doesn't exactly promote the idea that here is an intelligent and knowledgeable person. You seem to be perfectly capable of using quite large words (albeit a fair number of those are apparently cut'n'pasted), so how come you feel the need to mangle even simple words? --- End quote --- It would be good if English spelling changed quickly to simplify spelling etc. It would be good if spelling changed to accord with modern pronunciation. It would be good if large words were shortened. I am surprised that u have complained re my punctuation. I wonder whether the www google era will hasten such changes to English or slow them. In the meantime for sure i am waging a little war on English, but of course i dont want to overdo it, i suppose that koz & woz & probly etc might confuse readers from non-English speaking countries. Would u like to return to the year 1600? --- End quote --- There is a time and place to tilt at windmills, but I think that if you're trying to get across potentially complicated ideas then the fewer sharp corners that get in the way, the better. It's bad enough when you go on about MMX (I only recently, like in the past day or so, realised X means 'experiment'), but when simple infrastructural words are mangled each is like a bump in the road. The conscious mind should be entirely focused on the ideas, not the means by which the ideas are expressed (which should be handled by the subconscious), so every time you use something obscure you're mentally tripping up your reader and actively preventing them from giving your ideas their full attention. |
| bsfeechannel:
--- Quote from: aetherist on March 17, 2022, 02:07:43 am ---Hence Einsteinists are not peers of neoLorentzists or of aetherists. It works both ways. --- End quote --- That's why Professor Dave Explains rightfully exposes cranks as liars, con men, ill-intentioned people, not just innocent idiots. You now agree that pseudo-scientists are not peers of scientists. This means that your claim that the muon experiment was peer reviewed to be proven wrong is a big LIE. Good to know that you admit that. --- Quote ---Or it works the same way if one accepts that it is the Einsteinists that are the pseudo-scientists. --- End quote --- Except that if Einstein's theories were wrong we wouldn't be having this conversation. The truth is that his theories were proved right quotidianly and changed the lives of the common people, whereas your claims weren't demonstrated once and constitute just a bunch of incongruent, empty assertions. So you are the pseudobear here. |
| aetherist:
--- Quote from: penfold on March 17, 2022, 09:21:39 am --- --- Quote from: aetherist on March 17, 2022, 12:38:25 am ---[...]If it were not for the scientific godma of the Roman Catholic Church humans might have stood on the Moon in July 969, instead of July 1969. Einsteinian dogma might have a similar effect (but hopefully not 1000 years). Old (electron) electricity dogma might have a similar effect. Aether theory & new (electon) electricity theory might give us fusion power at an early date (i think never). Who knows. --- End quote --- So with modern-science, which includes the work of Einstein, society has achieved something. Aetherists have done nothing... there is nothing sane which has been developed within a framework of what you might call aether-theory. But, sure, on the surface, it's all dogma, both modern science and religion involve lots of lessons where the students are told facts and expected to believe them -- the separation occurs when students of science are able to further study the rational basis of theories, perform experiments, make observations and interpret the results and are encouraged to think for themselves -- whereas religion is an irrational interpretation of an irrational text which is reliant on suppressing free-thought. Your presentation of aether-theory is irrational and stems from irrational text -- it is dogma, the very definition of it. The reliance of aether-theory on malicious character assasination and your belief that there are such things as followers of Einstein is further evidence to that. You can change that though, if your-aether (not to be confused with urethra) is there to be found, find it, isolate it, test it. Learn some maths, develop the proofs, just do it. P.S. The remaining citizens of New Lorentzburg are still waiting for the electriciy system upgrade to 'new electrons'. The 'new language' problem is losing significance, as many New-Lorentzburgites are choosing to move to a neighbouring town, Maxwellington (strictly two sub-towns of Maxwellington-Lightside and Maxwellington-Heaviside, both under the jurisdiction and locality of Quantum View) Quantum View is an interesting town, because just out-side of the (classical) city limits of Maxwellington, there's many more towns where people are alowed to think for themselves. The townspeople of New Lorentzburg are still waiting for your opinion on the road-traffic incident that occured at the intersection of (the newly renamed) [cross-product West-Cruthers-Avenue-East and Up] and [cross-product I-Jay-Kay-NorthWest Boulevard and Down] (the citizens overwhelmingly prefered the pseudo-vector description), Driver A is claiming that the aetherwind must have changed, causing a red-shift in the green light and Driver B is claiming that all lights are red regardless of their colour, the observer claims the incident hadn't happened yet... the town is still in deadlock... the three remaining citizens still can't agree how to proceed at least. --- End quote --- I have already explained that every MMX (1887-2016) has confirmed the existence of aetherwind. The best MMX being by Demjanov at Obninsk in 1968-72, but he did not publish in English until about 2005. In addition the aetherwind has been seen to affect the speed of electricity in a coaxial cable (DeWitte). Society has not been affected much by anything Einsteinian. Fictional stories of singularity blackholes the bigbang wormholes time travel amazing atomic particles the CMBR etc do result in the wastage of money which could have been better used. Whereas ordinary fiction (books films etc) duz little economic harm. On the other hand knowledge of the aether & the aetherwind (& electons) might have produced gains – we don’t know. Re traffic accidents involving the Jetsons. The problem of determining the simultaneity & exact timing of an accident & signals exists in every relativity that one could possibly devise. An observer & Driver-A & Driver-B might indeed have a problem with the apparent color of red & green lights due to approach speed etc. These kinds of problems must surface with every kind of relativity. Aether theory alone adds the problem of the colors being affected by the changing direction of the aetherwind during each 24 hrs. In that sense i could use an ordinary set of intersection traffic signals as a kind of MMX, to measure the change in aetherwind during 24 hrs. |
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