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electrodacus:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on May 19, 2022, 07:30:05 pm ---Jesus F Christ!

A simple yes or no question results in waffling that isn't relevant yet again! You're incapable of following a logical process and always jump to the conclusion before working back, then just fill up reams of inappropriate gumpf to support that foregone concluision instead of just answering the damn question as stated.

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Not sure what that fictional character has to do with this problem. Other that he is as fictional as you energy going through a capacitor.
Answer the question and you will see the answer for yourself.

HuronKing:

--- Quote from: snarkysparky on May 19, 2022, 07:24:00 pm ---""You are calling it through but that is incorrectly. Saying electrical current flows through dielectric is incorrect and you know that.""


This is the crux of the discussion.   Just simply an obscure definition of "through"

Electrodous...   What word would you use to describe the power delivered to the other side of the capacitor.   You do agree that power is found on the other side of the capacitor ?

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It's worse than that. electrodacus doesn't understand displacement current.

He keeps saying "electrical current" hoping this smokescreen will distract from his ignorance of there being TWO terms for current in Ampere's Law - the conduction current AND the displacement current. In the region between two capacitors, there is no conduction current, but there IS displacement current.

Asserting that displacement current propagates no energy is anti-Maxwell.

TimFox:
In profane usage, the middle initial is "H".

electrodacus:

--- Quote from: HuronKing on May 19, 2022, 07:35:25 pm ---
It's worse than that. electrodacus doesn't understand displacement current.

He keeps saying "electrical current" hoping this smokescreen will distract from his ignorance of there being TWO terms for current in Ampere's Law - the conduction current AND the displacement current. In the region between two capacitors, there is no conduction current, but there IS displacement current.

Asserting that displacement current propagates no energy is anti-Maxwell.

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Provide an answer to the problem then let me know the amount of energy that passed "through" capacitor.

Naej:

--- Quote from: HuronKing on May 19, 2022, 09:41:07 am ---
--- Quote from: electrodacus on May 18, 2022, 11:59:15 pm ---You will need to understand Maxwell's equations to understand what they say. They do not say energy flows outside the wires.
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They absolutely say that. That's what led Maxwell to unify the electric and magnetic fields into electromagnetism... and it's what led Hertz to try transmitting an electrical signal from one radiator to another without any wires whatsoever.

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No they don't. They are equations giving the curl/divergence of two functions, and none of the two are energy.

Also, "displacement current" is a concept made up by Maxwell, grouping various effects into one.
Much like you can use "magnetic monopoles current/density" and it can simplify computations, it does NOT mean magnetic monopoles exist.

--- Quote ---Asserting that displacement current propagates no energy is anti-Maxwell.

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1) How is it a problem.
2) Asserting it does is anti-Poynting.

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