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Alex Eisenhut:

--- Quote from: IanB on May 20, 2022, 02:46:22 am ---
--- Quote from: electrodacus on May 20, 2022, 01:40:20 am ---I think you accused me of violating the energy conservation but it looks like that is you.
I say 144mJ delivered by source = 72mJ as heat in the wires + 72mJ stored as electrical energy.
You say 144mJ = 72mJ as heat in the wires + 72mJ work + 72mJ stored ???

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You didn't read what I said. You must learn to read.

Energy = Heat + Work

144 mJ (Energy) = 72 mJ (Heat) + 72 mJ (Work)

It's not complicated, is it?

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You're incredibly patient. I don't quite know what dacus's problem is, but he's long past the point of entertaining for me.

It's like telling him that it takes time to charge a capacitor and he replies that time is not energy.  :-// |O :-DD

electrodacus:

--- Quote from: IanB on May 20, 2022, 02:46:22 am ---
You didn't read what I said. You must learn to read.

Energy = Heat + Work

144 mJ (Energy) = 72 mJ (Heat) + 72 mJ (Work)

It's not complicated, is it?

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So there is no stored energy ? A 1000uF capacitor with 12V across contains no stored energy ?
What did that work you are talking about did ?

hamster_nz:

--- Quote from: electrodacus on May 20, 2022, 03:07:35 am ---
--- Quote from: IanB on May 20, 2022, 02:46:22 am ---
You didn't read what I said. You must learn to read.

Energy = Heat + Work

144 mJ (Energy) = 72 mJ (Heat) + 72 mJ (Work)

It's not complicated, is it?

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So there is no stored energy ? A 1000uF capacitor with 12V across contains no stored energy ?
What did that work you are talking about did ?

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The battery. Those electrons didn't just get into the capacitors by themselves now did they?

electrodacus:

--- Quote from: hamster_nz on May 20, 2022, 03:10:20 am ---The battery. Those electrons didn't just get into the capacitors by themselves now did they?

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Losing half the energy as heat is not enough ? You can say they went downhill.

IanB:

--- Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on May 20, 2022, 02:59:09 am ---You're incredibly patient. I don't quite know what dacus's problem is, but he's long past the point of entertaining for me.

It's like telling him that it takes time to charge a capacitor and he replies that time is not energy.  :-// |O :-DD

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It's fascinating seeing how many different ways he can come up with to argue that black is white, but yes, it does get boring after a while.

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