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| penfold:
--- Quote from: thinkfat on April 06, 2022, 08:25:04 am ---Fun fact: Maxwell doesn't disprove the "aether". In fact his original equations were developed based on the "Luminiferous aether" model that was the working theory about light propagation in his days. But no experimental proof came forward to substantiate this theory and experimental results could not be explained. Then Einstein came along and his Special Theory of Relativity explained all experimental results without needing to refer to the "aether" at all. The consensus was that the "aether" was not a useful concept to cling to. --- End quote --- There have been a fair number of theories and approaches to aether over the years. Aether is just the name of the collection of properties that have been assigned to "vacuum", so really, there are quite a few different aethers, if anything, Maxwell proves the existence of one as the equations were designed and developed around the idea of almost solid-like properties. As measurements and observations got more numerous and refined, one aether with those same Maxwellian properties would produce very different results in observations where relativity becomes more relevant. There's a bit of noise (accidental pun) in the quantum fields about the hypothesis of an aether... but it's a different aether again. But anyway, scientific laws are just tools for a job, observations of nature are where the truth is, and it's the observations that the laws describe, not nature. |
| SandyCox:
--- Quote from: penfold on April 06, 2022, 09:59:11 am ---But anyway, scientific laws are just tools for a job, observations of nature are where the truth is, and it's the observations that the laws describe, not nature. --- End quote --- Beautiful! Just like a natural language isn't its grammatical rules. The rules try to capture the essence of the language. |
| thinkfat:
--- Quote from: aetherist on April 06, 2022, 09:38:35 am ---My electons are brilliant. I might have to learn some Swedish. --- End quote --- Well, you have neither discovered nor invented anything. You postulated the existence of something. There is no proof, and, as far as I can see, not even a coherent piece of paper that describes what you claim to have found. How can anyone apply scientific rigor to your theory when all you can show is some forum posts that only demonstrate how you cannot read physics textbooks? I think you can put off learning Swedish for a bit. |
| penfold:
--- Quote from: aetherist on April 06, 2022, 09:38:35 am ---[...] We have geniuses that light the way. [...] --- End quote --- Well, that's certainly the loosest definition of genius I've ever heard, your level of inteligence is certainly similar to that of a candle tht similarly lights the way, that I won't deny. Now, talking of candles, why doesn't aether-wind blow candles out? Photons carry momentum and interract with a static aether, a moving aether would either require that photons have no interraction with aether or that candles should at the very least burn with a significant deflection in the flame. |
| thinkfat:
--- Quote from: aetherist on April 06, 2022, 09:32:17 am --- --- Quote from: thinkfat on April 06, 2022, 08:25:04 am ---Fun fact: Maxwell doesn't disprove the "aether". In fact his original equations were developed based on the "Luminiferous aether" model that was the working theory about light propagation in his days. But no experimental proof came forward to substantiate this theory and experimental results could not be explained. Then Einstein came along and his Special Theory of Relativity explained all experimental results without needing to refer to the "aether" at all. The consensus was that the "aether" was not a useful concept to cling to. --- End quote --- http://wiki.naturalphilosophy.org/index.php?title=G_O_Mueller Mueller is a good place to start. --- End quote --- --- Quote ---Die Physiker, die anderen Naturwissenschaftler und die Herren über die Medien haben seit 1922 eine große geheime Aktionsgemeinschaft gegen die Öffentlichkeit in Deutschland geschaffen, ein Zensur- und Boykott-Kartell zur Verhinderung des Bekanntwerdens auch nur der Existenz irgendeiner Kritik der Speziellen Relativitätstheorie. --- End quote --- :palm: |
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