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PlainName:

--- Quote --- bulk liquids themselves can't length contract, they just fill their container (as usual)
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If they are unconstrained (a puddle, perhaps) then the puddle would stay the same size or what? If they completely fill a container and the container contracts, would the uncompressible liquid cause the container to burst or do liquids actually contract after all?

hamster_nz:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on April 17, 2022, 11:18:42 pm ---
--- Quote --- bulk liquids themselves can't length contract, they just fill their container (as usual)
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If they are unconstrained (a puddle, perhaps) then the puddle would stay the same size or what? If they completely fill a container and the container contracts, would the uncompressible liquid cause the container to burst or do liquids actually contract after all?

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I was thinking along much the same lines - that the pressure and/or temperature in a container would change depending on which way the aether was blowing...

What about the quantum electron gas in a metal (the Drude–Sommerfeld model)?
aetherist:

--- Quote from: hamster_nz on April 17, 2022, 11:27:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on April 17, 2022, 11:18:42 pm ---
--- Quote --- bulk liquids themselves can't length contract, they just fill their container (as usual)
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If they are unconstrained (a puddle, perhaps) then the puddle would stay the same size or what? If they completely fill a container and the container contracts, would the uncompressible liquid cause the container to burst or do liquids actually contract after all?
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I was thinking along much the same lines - that the pressure and/or temperature in a container would change depending on which way the aether was blowing...

What about the quantum electron gas in a metal (the Drude–Sommerfeld model)?
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dunkemhigh………….. In a puddle, & in a container, if the length contraction gamma for the liquid is the same as the length contraction gamma for the puddle/container then there would be no apparent change in length or volume etc for an observer in the frame of the puddle/container.
But, as i said earlier, different substances probly have a different length contraction gamma. Hence the pressure in the container would change.

hamster…………… The direction of the aetherwind would not affect the above.
I think that the apparent temperature & the real temperature would change, koz, as i said earlier, in aether theory everything is apparently variant (ie apparently changes with velocity)(ie apparently changes with aetherwind), nothing is apparently invariant.
Re real changes (ie as observed by an observer stationary in the absolute frame), real changes happen to everything all the time (if the aetherwind changes)(which it duz)(continuously & continually).
TimFox:
"But, as i said earlier, different substances probly have a different length contraction gamma."

What experimental evidence is there for that statement?
aetherist:

--- Quote from: TimFox on April 18, 2022, 03:32:26 am ---"But, as i said earlier, different substances probly have a different length contraction gamma."

What experimental evidence is there for that statement?
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There is no X evidence that different substances have a different length contraction gamma. But, it is a very reasonable hypotheses.
The size & shape of different atoms is likely to result in a different gamma. Then, add to that, the size & shape of different molecules etc. However, i grant that it iznt immediately obvious. It takes a genius to even suppose it. All of the forces are em, but the actions of the em are likely to be non-uniform, when the longi aetherwind in the arm changes in strength.

MMXs dunn in vacuo prove that the Lorentz/FitzGerald gamma & the Lorentz/FitzGerald equation, for length contraction, are good, for Fe (ie they give a zero result for the aetherwind).
I suppose that an MMX dunn in vacuo & with one arm made of Fe (atomic number 26) & another arm made of say Beryllium (atomic number 4) could be a goodish test of my supposition.

Praps better still, a Demjanov MMX, using his twin media, air & carbondisulphide (gas)(with one arm Fe & other arm Be).

Einsteinian STR of course takes no notice of substance, in any way. It duznt even take notice of whether a solid or a liquid or a gas, or a vacuum.  Einsteinian STR only takes notice of co-ordinates & kinematics.
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