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Halcyon:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on February 16, 2020, 11:46:45 pm ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 16, 2020, 11:22:59 pm ---Sure, and ordinarily I would absolutely agree with you. I too am skeptical of anyone offering anecdotal evidence, but I think the opinion of an experienced person in the industry does carry some weight, as opposed to someone who might have built 10 computers in their life and just happen to like a particular brand "just because".

I fully admit that when I build a machine, it's absolutely going to be Intel based, but not only due to the past reliability issues involving AMD, but general compatibility with Linux and FreeBSD is also a big one for me. There is no compelling reason for me to switch to AMD. Have I recommended AMD machines to others in the past? Absolutely, but that largely comes down to their budget.

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You're very careful to correctly label your reports as anecdotal, only to then try and upsell it as something more.

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I say it how it is. I'm not trying to pass off my experiences as being some kind of solid scientific fact. Anecdotal doesn't mean that it's wrong or can be dismissed as being false, it's simply based on my experience. These forums are more than just what is evidence-based, I think expert opinions and experience matters quite a lot.

I'm not saying don't buy AMD. I'm just saying why I personally don't buy AMD. As I said, I have no compelling reason to change and cost alone is not an important factor for me.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 17, 2020, 12:53:36 am ---I say it how it is. I'm not trying to pass off my experiences as being some kind of solid scientific fact. Anecdotal doesn't mean that it's wrong or can be dismissed as being false, it's simply based on my experience. These forums are more than just what is evidence-based, I think expert opinions and experience matters quite a lot.

I'm not saying don't buy AMD. I'm just saying why I personally don't buy AMD. As I said, I have no compelling reason to change and cost alone is not an important factor for me.

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I'm not saying your statements are intentionally false but I am saying they are effectively meaningless for reasons discussed. Posting them is essentially just an attempt at skewing opinions ever so slightly based on nothing solid or of value to OP at all. If there was any kind of distinct difference there would be hard numbers. This isn't an industry where companies just guess at things when serious investments are at stake. Let's get back to factual matters and get this kid a decent computer. The first order of business is establishing a budget.
Halcyon:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on February 17, 2020, 01:36:52 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 17, 2020, 12:53:36 am ---I say it how it is. I'm not trying to pass off my experiences as being some kind of solid scientific fact. Anecdotal doesn't mean that it's wrong or can be dismissed as being false, it's simply based on my experience. These forums are more than just what is evidence-based, I think expert opinions and experience matters quite a lot.

I'm not saying don't buy AMD. I'm just saying why I personally don't buy AMD. As I said, I have no compelling reason to change and cost alone is not an important factor for me.

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I'm not saying your statements are intentionally false but I am saying they are effectively meaningless for reasons discussed. Posting them is essentially just an attempt at skewing opinions ever so slightly based on nothing solid or of value to OP at all. If there was any kind of distinct difference there would be hard numbers. This isn't an industry where companies just guess at things when serious investments are at stake. Let's get back to factual matters and get this kid a decent computer. The first order of business is establishing a budget.

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I disagree. I'm not attempting to "skew" anything, what the OP ends up doing doesn't have any bearing on how I live my life in the slightest. I'm just speaking about my experiences (which also involves about 5-6 years of professional video production for theaters etc...). If you want to hear about my professional video production experience when I worked at both a community television station and Network Ten in Australia, all of their workflows were all Intel-based workstations, edit suites and servers (but that's starting to get a bit off-topic).

I think swapping stories is just as important as reading about the facts. If you come to an online forum to purely get facts which are evidence-based, peer reviewed or otherwise proven, then you're in the wrong place. Forums like this one are getting people with all kinds of experiences together to share their thoughts. Sure, sometimes it ends in tears, but that's life.

Feel free to disagree on my thoughts, I absolutely don't mind. But don't hide behind "it's not proven so therefore don't mention it".
NiHaoMike:
The FX series was infamous for running hot which likely contributes to a higher failure rate. But that would not make a very good PC nowadays so the point is moot.
beanflying:
I was playing around with 1080P footage on an I3 with 8Gb of Ram (Old ex lease box with a very modest GPU) and it was Painful at best. At 720P you would likely be ok with or without a GPU but it would soon run out of legs.

So an old I5 or better ex lease and a 'reasonable' GPU (RX 580 or 590'ish) making sure the Power supply and case will cope with it is the cheap option. 8GB memory minimum would get him started and some ok gaming at 1080P.

For new the GPU requirements are much lower than for Gaming so buy what your budget can afford him (RX580 was handling 4K but sucked a bit for games). Memory 16GB of fairly fast preferably DDR4. Processor if you are building last years Ryzen 2600 still stacks up very well for video even toward 4K. B450 Motherboard will kill it and a 500Gb SSD plus some spinny storage for bulk. Costs of this with new gear circa $7-800 USD at a guess.

Servers are cheap but allow $20 for earmuffs  ::)
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