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Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: Electro Detective on February 18, 2020, 10:45:49 pm ---
Give those old Intels a miss unless they are dirt cheap, heaps of older well priced used multicore AMD rigs out there,
gamers would not touch them if they were no good.

I think our EEVblog host uses AMD, and one or two of the Moderators = ?

I can vouch an old x4 or x6 with 4 gigs of ram and stock onboard graphics will do video editing and fast conversions without a problem

Up the ram to 8 gigs and a 1 or 2 gig graphics card for more oomph,
parts which I still haven't gotten around to fitting, as the system working fine as is, and I'm forgetful/slack..  :-[

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The new AMD chips are excellent and are used in demanding situations like supercomputing. The older architecture models were slow and hot although it obviously depends what's compared with what.

Wimberleytech:
Tagging on to this kinda old thread.

I recently bought a gopro 8 to take on a 10-day canoe trip in Sep.  My buddy is bring one too.  We will generate tons of video that will need editing.  I have noticed that my current system just does not cut it.
Current system:
i5 2400 processor @ 3.1GHz
AMD Radeon HD 6800
Samsung 860 EVO

I am in the process of configuring a new system:
AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Gigabyte X570 Aorus
GTX 1660 graphics card
Intel Optane SSD 905P Series - M.2 22110 380GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 3D XPoint SSD - SSDPEL1D380GAX1
Either 32G or 64G of memory.

So the BIG NUT here is that Intel Optane NVMe...like 500 bucks or so.  My son recommended it.  He has built my last three or four computers. 
Is this overkill?  Until a couple of days ago, I was not aware of NVMe stuff, but the concept seems compelling.

To some degree...I suppose...money is not the issue...just would like all of the components in the system to be balanced (not pay for performance of any one item that will never use its potential).

Thoughts?

--This will be my first build.  I was smart enough to raise a son that learned this stuff before puberty and went on to get a degree in computer science.  I am trying to do this myself this time  :phew:

engrguy42:
I strongly recommend you first look at DaVinci Resolve. It's free. It's a professional-level editor with an insane amount of features. It recently came out with a whole new compositing and visual effects suite ("Fusion") that's amazing. There's also a ton of video how-to's out there.

Just be aware that, while it would be nice if you could buy a fancy GPU and get lots of benefit by speeding up renders, that's rarely the case. Often they will use the GPU for some specific features, but rarely the ones you want. Usually for some special effects it taps the GPU, but regular rendering not so much. I think many editors still rely on multi-core CPU's for rendering.

I think it's best to first decide on the software, and then decide what hardware you'll need. 

Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: engrguy42 on May 04, 2020, 09:56:34 pm ---I strongly recommend you first look at DaVinci Resolve. It's free. It's a professional-level editor with an insane amount of features. It recently came out with a whole new compositing and visual effects suite ("Fusion") that's amazing. There's also a ton of video how-to's out there.

Just be aware that, while it would be nice if you could buy a fancy GPU and get lots of benefit by speeding up renders, that's rarely the case. Often they will use the GPU for some specific features, but rarely the ones you want. Usually for some special effects it taps the GPU, but regular rendering not so much. I think many editors still rely on multi-core CPU's for rendering.

I think it's best to first decide on the software, and then decide what hardware you'll need.

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Some applications benefit from GPU acceleration a lot, also during regular editing.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: blueskull on February 17, 2020, 03:51:46 am ---For <$500 you can get an AMD Ryzen 3400G build, which has a very decent integrated GPU (more than enough for casual gaming, video encoding and video playback) and 4 modern cores.
It's $150 on Amazon with cooler, $80 for the motherboard, $80 for 16GB of DDR4 3200 RAM, and $80 for an 500GB/512GB NVMe SSD. Add in a cheap power+case combo for $60, you are all set for $450.
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Yep, something like this would be fine.
There is a huge variability in "video editing" requirements. My videos for example (and the 4K ones) can be done on practically any system, even a 10 year old dumpster PC will work just fine, because there is little to no special effects etc, it's mostly just re-rendering existing footage. My current  i7 7820X is actually way overkill for what I need for both the editing part and the rendering part, but I like to be able to render 4K video in at least "real time". Sound like your son is just doing basic splicing and re-rendering, and literally any machine can do that, as evidenced by him currently doing it on a tablet.

If you are you making some hollywood production with green screen, colour grading, and all sorts of fancy visual effects processing, that's where you start to need the serious hardware.

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