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Video on planned obsolescence.
james_s:
--- Quote from: Zero999 on April 12, 2021, 06:41:50 pm --- I used to like MS Office, before they started messing with the user interface. All versions since 2003 seemed to have gone worse, rather than better. I haven't used 365 yet, but. 2016 is installed om my work's PC and I hate it. I wish I was allowed to install something better. They can't pay me to use it. If I need to do something using a word processor. I go home and do it. I would turn down a job, if it involved using MS Office too much, regardless of the pay. I've used all sorts of spreadsheets and word processors before and they've all been easier to use than the recent MS Office versions, so it's not me struggling to learn new things. It's just really bad.
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At least the Mac version has retained the menu bar, because Apple mandates it, you can ignore the ribbon and use it more or less the way you're used to. I still have not forgiven them for removing the classic menu on the Windows version. It was already there, it already worked, there was no reason to force the ribbon on everyone and eliminate the menu bar. Especially when the menu bar still has to be developed and tested for the Mac version. Years and years later I still hate the ribbon. People always said I'd get used to it, I never did. It takes up more space and requires more clicks to do anything, I hate it.
BrokenYugo:
I've always thought whoever pushed for that ribbon crap should have, at minimum, been permanently imprisoned.
Speaking of MS office, software as a service could certainly be argued as a form of genuine planned obsolescence.
james_s:
--- Quote from: BrokenYugo on April 12, 2021, 10:29:57 pm ---I've always thought whoever pushed for that ribbon crap should have, at minimum, been permanently imprisoned.
Speaking of MS office, software as a service could certainly be argued as a form of genuine planned obsolescence.
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It was Julie Larson-Green. It was based on "usability studies" which obviously did not include me. I think they focused on non-technical people, at the expense of everyone who knew what they were doing. She was also a major player behind the "Metro" UI concept in Win8. Both total disasters if you ask me.
JohnnyMalaria:
The vast majority of Office users aren't technical.
james_s:
--- Quote from: JohnnyMalaria on April 12, 2021, 10:41:07 pm ---The vast majority of Office users aren't technical.
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But a lot of them are technical, or at least technical enough to figure out a menu. Adding the ribbon to make it more discoverable was fine, removing the menu was inexcusable.
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