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Title: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: EEVblog on December 26, 2015, 01:55:50 pm
Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics are on Amazon, with a mystery new author!
Got these images from Paul Horowitz
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: SeanB on December 26, 2015, 02:48:04 pm
At least with Amazon he, as the original author, can simply send them a DMCA takedown and the copies, along with the seller, will be removed from Amazon nealy immediately. As well any customers will receive notification that the orders are for counterfeit product as well.
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: steve30 on December 26, 2015, 03:14:19 pm
Any idea how that was made? Looks like the counterfeiters have a problem with the letters 'fi'.
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: continuo on December 26, 2015, 03:23:02 pm
They scanned a genuine edition and their OCR program messed it up would be my guess...  :palm:
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: PA0PBZ on December 26, 2015, 03:27:33 pm
Any idea how that was made? Looks like the counterfeiters have a problem with the letters 'fi'.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/the-art-of-electronics-3rd-edition/msg829114/#msg829114 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/the-art-of-electronics-3rd-edition/msg829114/#msg829114)
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: amyk on December 26, 2015, 04:37:13 pm
Go China! :P They're a bit crazy to be selling on Amazon though.

Now we can tell who learned from that edition, since they'll be the ones talking about "lters"... :-DD
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: Tomorokoshi on December 26, 2015, 07:33:46 pm
So mill Amazong pill the pour qualitty coonterfiel buukc?
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: Stonent on December 26, 2015, 11:36:18 pm
Just think how much the reputation of Chinese goods could be raised if they all hired someone with an English degree (preferably native English speaker) to proofread their documentation and boxes.
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: mikeselectricstuff on December 26, 2015, 11:43:17 pm
Just think how much the reputation of Chinese goods could be raised if they all hired someone with an English degree (preferably native English speaker) to proofread their documentation and boxes.
And menus...
I think they have cultural barrier to acknowledging that they are doing something badly and seem unwilling to ask for help.

A particularly good example is the Neoden4 video - they're trying to sell an expensive piece of kit to the EU and US market, have a very nice looking video, but then make themselves look a bunch of total amateurs with an appalling Chinglish script, and an even worse attempt at lip-syncing it.
I doubt it would have cost them more than the profit one one machine to hire someone to do it in English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P7DDSTXIQo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P7DDSTXIQo)
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: Stonent on December 26, 2015, 11:52:40 pm
And when they use those awful fonts that are designed to be able to do Chinese and English characters.
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: Deathwish on December 27, 2015, 12:20:48 am
considering it is allready on a known naughty site, bit late  :popcorn:
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: Richard Crowley on December 27, 2015, 12:43:00 am
Apparently their OCR can't handle typographic ligatures....

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f3/Ligature_drawing.svg/149px-Ligature_drawing.svg.png)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature#Stylistic_ligatures
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: fivefish on December 27, 2015, 02:09:39 am
Those freaking chinese... they'll copy and fake anything.
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: all_repair on December 27, 2015, 02:39:03 am
Those freaking chinese... they'll copy and fake anything.

English book copying is mostly Indian (asia) forte, or Taiwanese Chinese forte  This field is new to the Mainland Chinese.  But there  are quite a lot of book scanning machine made and sold by the Chinese.  Some even made it to the kickstarter by some opportunists.    Any clearer indication?
Title: Re: WARNING: Counterfeit copies of Art Of Electronics
Post by: justanothercanuck on December 27, 2015, 06:25:35 am
Neoden4

i see they sell to iran.  hopefully that doesn't wind up biting them in the ass.  :-DD