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Offline coppice

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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2020, 06:45:27 pm »
I can't say it's a good decision, and $60k+ means I should be sure before I start.  But when I look at how I want to live my life when I'm 45+, I want it to be helping get medical technologies to market.  I don't think society has a lack of engineers with ideas.  They have a lack of people picking a technology and knowing a peculiar strategy to get it to the hands of patients that need it.

I know this doesn't address the relocation bit.
I've known several engineers who worked in medical electronics, but left out of frustration. Regulations, and the attitudes of the medical people they had do deal with, ground them all down. They all had great stories to tell of bringing real benefits to people with medical problems, but also tales of doing 99% of the work on something, getting great results and being almost ready for market, and then being blocked from actually getting their product out.
 

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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2020, 06:54:39 pm »
I think relocating is a crazy hassle and life change. You would expect a big pay boost or bonus to do that. If you have any sort of establishment at least. Fresh out of college first job kids that don't like their parents are another story. If you have family ties, familiarity and liking.. its hardly worth moving unless the situation is totally dire. Those kids applying for jobs 1 week after graduating are psycho about it.

I don't think you will be as satisfied by the 'ideal job position' as you think. Think about the psychological ramifications. 1 good relationship (even a good neighbor) can be worth more then 10 years pay... try living next to a nut like my grand parents did. Or bad neighborhood, etc,. (do NOT trust what your job employer says about 'social life' in the job interview and in the office if you are relocating! do research and go to where you think will be fun/relaxing/etc first. This will be a evil sales pitch that will tell you down town crack-vill is a hot social night spot!!! Also, consider how much time it takes to scope out the place where you are moving, i.e. check the stores, the recreational facilities, parks, etc. Try going at the times you are actually going to not be working to see what the crowd looks like). If you travel far away... you need to make sure you can stay in the area for a weekend to see what its like, and have money.. to actually spend the weekand like you think you are going to spend it when you work.....! Otherwise it will be friday night and you will be like 'well everything around here fucking sucks'.

I think basically a job will always irritate to some degree, because of corporate interests being inherently anti-everything you like (at least the over arching ones, i.e. the BOTTOM LINE that comes from financial objectives, which is at odds with people), and that you should have a strong focus on outside of work. IMO easy to ruin your life moving.
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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2020, 07:09:47 pm »
I think relocating is a crazy hassle and life change.
If you think its bad for the person getting a new job, it can be far more traumatic for the rest of the family. It can even be impractical if your spouse also has a career tied to very specific locations.
 

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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2020, 07:11:42 pm »
I think relocating is a crazy hassle and life change.
If you think its bad for the person getting a new job, it can be far more traumatic for the rest of the family. It can even be impractical if your spouse also has a career tied to very specific locations.

give yourself a raise by getting a vacuum sealer and working on your car yourself then chasing every dollar imo lol

i think it comes down to being friendly with managers/bosses then being pissed off you can't live like them (its not that great).. I noticed  co workers will call clean up services, plumbing services, etc.. because I think they think its classy/high end. At least new employees that are out of college. Well.. they say learning should never stop.. chances are in a bigger company, your learning will slow down massively compared to school. Then you need to learn how to do things to reduce expenses while maintaining quality of life (hard). Not being frugal though. If your job is making you learn things constantly, with high pay, then is when you need to call in services.

I would use a RF/high end math class to compare to what 'hard' learning is at work. If it feels like liberal arts, you are not being drained so much that you need everything done and cooked for you.

Not saying not living like a baller is great or anything, but its often not worth moving if you are happy with where you are. And usually the job position won't make you happy with life.. it comes down to having time and some money (freedom). But freedom to be in a delapitated empty ghetto is not very great.
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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2020, 08:21:34 pm »
I can't say it's a good decision, and $60k+ means I should be sure before I start.  But when I look at how I want to live my life when I'm 45+, I want it to be helping get medical technologies to market.  I don't think society has a lack of engineers with ideas.  They have a lack of people picking a technology and knowing a peculiar strategy to get it to the hands of patients that need it.

I know this doesn't address the relocation bit.

Ok, now you are starting to develop a longer range view.  Keep dialing that in and then see what that indicates you should do for a next position, location, etc.
 

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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2020, 11:55:09 pm »
I think relocating is a crazy hassle and life change.
If you think its bad for the person getting a new job, it can be far more traumatic for the rest of the family. It can even be impractical if your spouse also has a career tied to very specific locations.

Well I wouldn't want to relocate, but I was fortunate enough to have grown up in an area with a lot of tech jobs. I certainly have worked with a lot of people who have relocated from other regions/countries though. It all comes down to a choice, either you go to where the jobs you want are located, or you make due with the jobs that you can find in your local area. Or a third option which is becoming increasingly more feasible is to work remotely for a company located elsewhere.
 

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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #56 on: October 14, 2020, 04:57:49 pm »
I think relocating is a crazy hassle and life change.
Being able to go out of your comfort zone is very valuable life skill. The life isn't gonna be all roses and red carpets, sometimes you will have to do things you'd rather not to do, but which will benefit you in the long term. I hate moving as much as the other guy, but if relocation is going to stand between me and an interesting job opportunity, I will relocate without a second thought, especially if that relocation is going to be paid for by the new company.

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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #57 on: October 14, 2020, 05:41:20 pm »
I hate moving as much as the other guy, but if relocation is going to stand between me and an interesting job opportunity, I will relocate without a second thought, especially if that relocation is going to be paid for by the new company.

No idea about your age and family situation, but this decision may obviously depend on others beyond yourself: It may affect the social contacts and friendships of your wife and children; maybe your wife has a great job too; maybe your children have special needs in school; maybe you want to take care of aging parents or parents-in-law who live locally. Your view seems a bit self-centered and narrow. I am guessing you are young and independent?
 

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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #58 on: October 14, 2020, 06:04:39 pm »
My work covers three continents and may involve being away from home up to three months if the project needs nurse-maiding.
The ability to travel at the drop of a hat has it's risks and rewards of course, but life is never boring and is as rewarding as the effort applied.
Become an electrical gypsy / roving troubleshooter and see what happens.
 

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Re: Wayward EE lost and lamenting
« Reply #59 on: October 14, 2020, 06:05:04 pm »
No idea about your age and family situation, but this decision may obviously depend on others beyond yourself: It may affect the social contacts and friendships of your wife and children; maybe your wife has a great job too; maybe your children have special needs in school; maybe you want to take care of aging parents or parents-in-law who live locally. Your view seems a bit self-centered and narrow. I am guessing you are young and independent?
Unfortunately I'm not as young anymore, and I got family. But I do bring the majority of household income into my family.


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