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we need traffic lights for satellites
cdev:
If brought in the courts of any specific country, especially the US, I suspect they will be preempted, if they aren't already.
Meaning preempted by some international treaty or another. In case you hadn't noticed there is an international gold rush going on to grab up all rights that arent already grabbed by somebody, this is so corporations can claim the continuation of that policy, whatever it is, is their "property". "After all they are the job creators". /sarcasm.
--- Quote from: coppercone2 on September 07, 2019, 02:48:42 am ---are satellite related lawsuits precedented?
I mean, for stuff that happens in space, not dishnet related scammers as usual/illegal tv, or patent crap. I mean like collisions, occupation of orbital path, interference
https://www.space.com/20173-china-space-junk-crash-lawsuit.html
http://www.thespacereview.com/article/3392/1
can this lead to lesser nations becoming some kind of satellite launch havens since they will reject litigation? Kind of like Caymen islands, Panama, Switzerland, Ireland being tech/financial hubs
Many states have adopted national space legislation, including Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Chile, China, France, Germany, Japan, Kazakhstan, the Netherlands, Norway, the Republic of Korea, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Ukraine, the United Kingdom, and the United States.4 Several are detailed below, in order to demonstrate the common approach to absolute versus fault-based liability and state liability versus corporate liability.
Is north korea a Chinese satellite haven?
I don't think it would take too much to build a launch pad some where? I feel like south/middle america can make bank if they just decide to have lax space laws and are in dire straits already. Their not exactly horrible places to live for space engineers.
Ecuador, Colombia, Brazil, Sao Tome & Principe, Gabon, Republic of the Congo, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Uganda, Kenya, Somalia, Maldives, Indonesia and Kiribati. All equatorial .
Somalia, Kenya, Congo and Uganga would probably be destabilized by the CIA if they tried it. No idea what Gabon or Sao Tome or Kiribati are. shady Nigerian satilite launch site possible? can this fix africa?
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See http://apps.agi.com/SatelliteViewer/ for an idea of how much debris we need to track now.
Re picture: ALL YOUR SPACE ARE BELONG TO US!"
Lord of nothing:
;D Why does it remember me at many Bond Movies? That Guys with the Satellites was never the good one. :-+
wraper:
--- Quote from: madires on September 03, 2019, 12:26:20 pm ---Aeolus is a little bit longer in space than the Starlink satellite. So we can guess what will happen with tons of LEO internet satellites and SpaceX' attitude. :palm:
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This is an outdated claim which is not true. There was miscommunication. https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/3/20847243/spacex-starlink-satellite-european-space-agency-aeolus-conjunction-space-debris
--- Quote ---but SpaceX says the bad communication was not intentional and that a bug in the company’s “on-call paging system” prevented the Starlink team from getting additional email correspondence from ESA.
“SpaceX is still investigating the issue and will implement corrective actions,” a company spokesperson said in a statement. “However, had the Starlink operator seen the correspondence, we would have coordinated with ESA to determine best approach with their continuing with their maneuver or our performing a maneuver.”
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Also that was not a standard Starlink orbit. It happened during deorbiting testing.
wraper:
--- Quote from: Syntax Error on May 30, 2020, 09:42:43 am ---Problem with satellites is they are not meant to come down. Even LEO satellites remain as hazardous waste for decades. There must be a rule to deorbit (burn up) a satellite after it's mission has expired. Graveyard orbits are just a way of moving space junk somewhere/some when else. Oceanic states may protest that the Pacific is not a dumping ground for space waste.
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They are exactly meant to come down. Even if they fail to do so, they will deorbit due to atmospheric drag (yes there still are a little bit of air particles) in a few years unlike satellites at higher orbits which will stay there basically forever.
--- Quote from: cdev on July 31, 2020, 03:18:57 pm ---Those satellites are ruining astrophotography and increase the risk that an unobserved meteor could collide with Earth but Elon Musk couldn't care less.
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With current technology available, you would have observed meteor colliding with Earth. Result would be exactly the same.
Lord of nothing:
--- Quote ---in a few years
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:o well I would say such company must be forced to pay, hire a Insurance Company who kicks in to remove it when the Company not exist any more.
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