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Web hosting that doesn't suck?
bd139:
I did the same (postfix on the end of an ADSL line) until 2011 and gave up. Just couldn't keep up with delivery problems. The thing that killed me was a couple of people I talked to regularly were Yahoo mail stallwarts and Yahoo decided that it just didn't want me to relay to them with no appeal recourse. That was the end of it for me so I jumped onto one of the corporate islands who manage it for me.
I'm surprise you get anything out of plusnet :-DD
NivagSwerdna:
--- Quote from: bd139 on May 05, 2020, 08:44:42 am ---...Just couldn't keep up with delivery problems.
I'm surprise you get anything out of plusnet :-DD
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Works fine and I interact with Yahoo all the time. Does take love and attention though and SPF and DKIM etc... If I was going to outsource anything it would be mail but it works for me; the only downside is my server doesn't like receiving from badly configured peers... so it's a problem getting emails from the email infrastructure at equipnet! (see Auction... RF Crusty thread)
bd139:
--- Quote from: cdev on May 06, 2020, 12:28:32 am ---Why? don't you have everything configured properly?
--- Quote from: bd139 on May 05, 2020, 08:39:25 am ---I've got a node on DO as well. Very good service. Apart from outbound email which is always shit on a VPS.
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Yes 100% correctly. Had DKIM + SPF + DMARC set up. The issue is that the DO netblocks are shared with pretty cancerous customers on the average day from owned shitboxes to spammers. So the entire block's reputation is low. Also when you get an IPv4 address for your box it may have had 10 other terrible customers already. This means your outbound address regularly appears on RBLs which means running through their appeals. This causes delivery problems. Also for new DO customers they actually block outbound SMTP now for at least 60 days after sign up.
Sure serve a web app off a VPS but forget email.
Red Squirrel:
Yeah email is always a pain. Even on a dedicated server, as you don't know what the previous owner of that IP may have used it for. Took me years to get off all the RBLs. Lot of them also have a 3 strike policy per IP, so sometimes you can't get off at all if the strikes have already been used up by previous customers.
paulca:
--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on May 07, 2020, 07:02:03 am ---Yeah email is always a pain. Even on a dedicated server, as you don't know what the previous owner of that IP may have used it for. Took me years to get off all the RBLs. Lot of them also have a 3 strike policy per IP, so sometimes you can't get off at all if the strikes have already been used up by previous customers.
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Its just not worth touching email if you can avoid it.
I ran my own server for years. My inbound was locked to "known mailboxes" only. So when people sent spam to random@mydomain my mail server rejected them. Of course the spam was being sent from a bogus address and the host rejected my reject, even though they are not meant to. The result was around 400Mb of mail queue churning and me being added to at least one black list for "Back scattering".
So I moved the domain to Google. There are other options, but google seems to have the best antispam at the cost of some privacy.
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