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weird situation, no partial refund? learn from my mistake

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DiTBho:

--- Quote from: Fraser on May 24, 2021, 07:34:02 pm ---We are adults not spiteful children !

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Precisely. My proposals to solve the problem:
- I shall send you back the two damaged cards so you can check yourself
- You shall send two replacement cards
- I shall pay UPS to collect the parcel ad your address
- I shall honor my part of agreement, no problem for what happened

His answer to these proposals? "I don't like your tone"




DiTBho:
Moral of the story, I give up with that guy. I am going to use the working board and the repaired one, while the other two damaged boards will be recycled.

* * * * but good news * * * *

Yesterday a friend of mine reached me on Skype and told me

--- Quote ---It's hard to win an argument with a smart person,
but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.
Forget that dude! Today I found some D-boards abandoned!
I have a plan to smuggle a couple of them inside a bag

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He was able to find a box of these boards practically lying abandoned in a warehouse in Estonia where he works. When he says "I have a plan to smuggle a couple of them inside a bag" he is clearly kidding. We have already contacted the owner and asked him if he is willing to sell. He replied has no idea about the working condition of the boards, but he is happy to send the whole box for just the postage cost.

I am going to offer him a couple of good Soviet drinks in return of his kindness! There are also something like 9 cards inside. Some don't look good, but some look in pristine condition. We will see.

I have already booked the ticket for the remote pickup. A dude with the UPS hat will collect the parcel there and bring it here, a whole box, more than 10Kg, shipped on a van, for only 18 euro.

Shipping from Estonia is usually very expensive, nevertheless I can have a discount for a "last minute ticket" if I am willing to wait until the end of the week for the pickup, and sure, no problem with that. I am not in rush  :D

PlainName:
That's a stroke of luck. Of course, deals like this only occur once you've bought the bad ones first.

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: Fraser on May 24, 2021, 07:34:02 pm ---Sorry if this post seams harsh and mean, but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind and give people a reality check  ;)

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You're completely missing out the value of the quid-pro-quo of developing software and handing over the source. I think in regards to that you need a reality check. Typical rate for a software contractor at the moment, over £500 a day. Amount of code produced in a day, not very much (typical figure taken over a whole project works out at 10 lines of code per day [Fred Brooks, The Mythical Man Month]). We have no idea of the full market price sans discount of the boards, but given the figures we're talking about likely no more than 50-250 euros total. Now who is getting the better part of this deal, someone who discounts their boards and get what's probably several days, perhaps weeks, of developer time, or someone who gets a few boards at a discount?

Fraser:
Actually I know exactly how much a coder or specialist consultant can charge. A hobbyist working on some circa 2007 SBC's does not normally qualify for such fees though.

The point I made was that just because someone says they will provide new code in the future, that does not mean that such will ever be developed or delivered. If you already had the code and offered that as part of a deal.... that has real value. I have made jsut such deals modifying equipment firmware. Vapourware has absolutely no value until it becomes a reality.... if ever  ;) In this case the seller saw an opportunity and the buyer got the PCB's at virtually scrap prices.

The "Reality check" related to the fact that the OP had a need for some long obsolete SBC's and the seller had stock. In order to obtain what the OP wanted, some Diplomacy was needed and I suggested that taking a hit on the original orders damaged PCB's may be a price worth paying to get the required rare SBC's by ordering some more at the knock down 10 Euro price. That may not seem 'fair' but sometimes you have to live with a situation if it achieves the desired result. The other option was to fail in discussions with the seller and end up with a refund but no SBC's.

Anyway, all is good now as the OP has sourced a load of boards so the faulty ones can be returned, a refund issued and life moves on. Never waste your precious life on insignificant matters  ;)

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