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What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« on: December 22, 2019, 03:55:05 pm »
What about labor price per hour in yours city?
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2019, 05:12:12 pm »
Well in my city is varies with job, from not enough to way too much.
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2019, 08:52:02 pm »
Depends on the job.
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2019, 08:59:54 pm »
What about labor price per hour in yours city?

I'm curious 001, where you live in Antarctica is the price of labor cheap because of low demand, or high because of a labor shortage and does it vary by season? I imagine at certain periods of the year a day laborer would cost more but maybe it is this even out with shift work?
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2019, 09:08:57 pm »
The figures for the UK is surely a croc of chit! People on that kind of dosh p/h would be considered well off, quite well off!
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2019, 09:44:52 pm »
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The figures for the UK is surely a croc of chit! People on that kind of dosh p/h would be considered well off, quite well off!
Possibly. Another source claims it's 14 GPB.

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https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/en/web/products-eurostat-news/-/EDN-20180322-1
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2019, 09:55:06 pm »
The figures for the UK is surely a croc of chit! People on that kind of dosh p/h would be considered well off, quite well off!

Yes, those figures are useless. The median salary for 2016/2017 for the whole UK was £26,250 per annum, or 15.79€/hr. The figures given above work out as £41,560 per annum, a mere 62% more than the actual figure. (Based on current EUR <=> GBP exchange rate because I'm too lazy to find historical ones at the moment).
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2019, 09:56:14 pm »
It is the crap of how people like to display this data as an "Average", instead of a "median" or even average by quartile, which would be much more representitive as it removes the heavy bias the CEO's earning millions per year introduce.
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2019, 10:12:09 pm »
Depends on the industry.  This is a mining town, so stuff like mining, welding, machining, that sort of thing pays good from what I understand.  Tech stuff on the other hand is pretty much minimum wage unless you get lucky.  I got lucky myself and found a good job.  I make around 80k.  Downside is companies are always trying to move stuff down south so there is always the constant threat of my job being eliminated if they ever decide to hit us.   
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2019, 10:32:11 pm »
Yes, those figures are useless. The median salary for 2016/2017 for the whole UK was £26,250 per annum, or 15.79€/hr. The figures given above work out as £41,560 per annum, a mere 62% more than the actual figure. (Based on current EUR <=> GBP exchange rate because I'm too lazy to find historical ones at the moment).

That sounds shockingly low, especially given the relatively high cost of living. IIRC the median in the USA is nearly twice that and in the expensive coastal cities it is much, much higher. 15.79€/hr is only marginally over the minimum wage in Seattle, that wouldn't even cover the rent in a dumpy 1 bedroom apartment.
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2019, 10:52:52 pm »
Note, those figures are for the whole UK. There are regional differences e.g. for the same year the median salary for London was, from memory, around £32k. Also remember if you're making a comparison with the US that our taxation (at around £4k5 for the median salary of 2016/2017) includes health care costs which, as I understand it, are a bigger slice of people's salaries than state and federal taxes. The national minimum wage for that year was £7.50 per hour.
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2019, 11:09:11 pm »
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2019, 11:47:13 pm »
Note, those figures are for the whole UK. There are regional differences e.g. for the same year the median salary for London was, from memory, around £32k. Also remember if you're making a comparison with the US that our taxation (at around £4k5 for the median salary of 2016/2017) includes health care costs which, as I understand it, are a bigger slice of people's salaries than state and federal taxes. The national minimum wage for that year was £7.50 per hour.

Health care is indeed a fantastic benefit that absolutely warrants higher taxes IMHO, however over here most people who have health insurance get it as a benefit from their employer. Technically it is a part of my compensation however it's money that I never see and not part of my base salary so it doesn't get incorporated into the median salary.

Looking at some numbers, I see the ~$54k value I had in my head is the median household income, so the median salary is likely significantly lower. I'll have to look later and see what I can find.
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2019, 11:07:25 am »
I'd agree that around the £25 - 30k mark give or take a bit either way depending where you live is a more accurate average figure. I live in Edinburgh which would probably be the higher end of Scottish wages. Go to London and that figure will rise again quite a bit.
Like others have said though there are loads of other variables.
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2019, 03:01:34 pm »


Yea. I`m not natural born antarctic man. I`m migrate to Antarctica   for job.
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2019, 03:11:59 pm »
Yea. I`m not natural born antarctic man. I`m migrate to Antarctica   for job.

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2019, 12:47:39 pm »
We don't seem to mind, when we buy something dirt cheap, made in India etc.  :phew:
Most people in Australia earn between $18 to $40 / hour. Techs on call, more....
However, it REALLY pisses me off when SOME big time Psychiatrists etc, can charge
$450 for 25 Mins!!  Totally disproportionate for the little work they do. But then again,
their payments for their Mansion and their Rolls Royce makes life tough for them!  :palm:
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2019, 01:37:15 pm »
The figures for the UK is surely a croc of chit! People on that kind of dosh p/h would be considered well off, quite well off!

Absolutely, but what do you expect from Eurostat propoganda!!  Thank *uck we are getting out that scam!!  I've been looking at historic EU material concerning the effects of EU membership on the UK since we joined, makes interesting reading!  Basically, since the EU 'harmonised' the UK with the rest of the EU our standard of living has steadily declined and wages have fallen in real terms, but the facts and timeline concerning that decline sem to have been quietly forgotten!  Obviously, it doesn't help that our utilities and public transport were privatised, we were fed to the corrupt, cash hungry jaws of private companies, and our major industries were systematically destroyed but EU membership certainly hasn't helped, in fact, there has been no benefit. Unless you happened to work in the system, were already rich, a refugee, illegal immigrant or a criminal, which is why there has been so much resistance to the referendum result.
The bulk of UK jobs are menial on minimum wage, fast food, supermarket fodder, care workers, warehouse slaves (Amazon!!), etc.  Very few are in the £30K plus bracket.  FFS, even Uni graduates are unlikely ever to able to afford to buy a house!!  What does that say about the UK?!

Basically, nothing stated by the EU or UK government can be trusted, as they produce the stats to suit their agenda.   
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2019, 02:58:29 pm »
Apparently it depends on the job.

In where I live now (Shenzhen), typical white collar office workers (non certified accountants, secretaries, typists, etc.) make $1400 per month working 8 hours a day, 5 days a week.

Some low level engineers (programmers, designers, etc.) make anywhere between $2000 to $3000 per month working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week.

Some higher level engineers can easily make $5k~$20k per month, while working considerably less hours, those are more like creative and researching jobs.

Then it comes to high income people, like experienced consultants, famous doctors, influential lawyers, which they make charge hundreds of dollars per hour.

Capitalists such as investors, high level managers and chief board members can make millions to billions annually.

On the other end of the spectrum, typical manufacturing workers make less than $700 per month, and the living cost in Shenzhen is even higher than that, so most factories offer free housing and dining.

The lowest income would be those whose job are neither physically demanding nor mentally demanding, such as receptionists and unarmed guards, usually below $400 per month.

This is an amazing city. You never know if the guy next to you in a line has a few millions of debt or a few billions in a Swiss bank.
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2019, 12:58:03 pm »
I live in a capitol but relatively minor city in Australia.

For a tech doing a typical 5 day a week 8ish hour day you could expect to get somewhere between $40,000 and $70,000 a year depending upon skills and experience.

If it matters for the conversation we in Australia have universal healthcare and all sorts of social welfare/unemployment/pension payments. Because I have 2 young kids the government tops up our (not meager) earnings by a few hundred dollars a fortnight.

Employers also contribute 9% of your income into a superannuation retirement savings account (ie you earn $100k a year they'll tip $9k into your super account)

In Australia it's quite common to work away from home in our mining/oil/gas industries, and the remuneration is significantly higher - this is compensation for being away from family, combined with doing 12 hour shifts every day of the week. I know guys who are on almost $600 a day to literally shovel muck and carry heavy stuff in the middle of nowhere.

On call, or shift work where you're home will be somewhere between what you'd earn doing easy 8 hour days or being away from home.

Engineers obviously earn more than techs (mostly) but the question was about labor.

In Australia an electrician putting in a new light fixture playing with a couple of wires and a switch will in most cases cost more per hour than an electronics technician doing something complicated. I'd be interested in if that's the case globally or just a local curiosity.
 

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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2019, 01:25:15 pm »

However, it REALLY pisses me off when SOME big time Psychiatrists etc, can charge
$450 for 25 Mins!!  Totally disproportionate for the little work they do.

If they would be able to figure out what the hell is wrong with my ex wife...worth it.

 
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Re: What about labor price per hour in yours city?
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2019, 02:15:50 pm »
You are paying for their training and expertise, just like say, a lawyer  :-DD
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