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« Reply #5475 on: January 22, 2018, 10:04:49 pm »
A couple of quick images from the Adonstar ADSM302. Had to JPG compress them to get the filessize down..

Looks really good. Of course, not as crisp as my Tagarno, but the difference is not big, and your whole ADSM302 is cheaper than just my knob box :-DD

Those earlier images were just frame grabs off the video, a photo is actually 12MP and more detailed. You can compare the two below (The photo is second image, although I had to reduce it to 30% of original size to post so perhaps not a fair comparison).

Maybe not as sharp but it would be tough for me to justify paying more! £220 for the lot in my case :)

Plenty of room to work underneath the camera as you can see..
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« Reply #5476 on: January 22, 2018, 10:14:18 pm »
@chrisLX200: can you estimate the latency on the integral LCD and HDMI out? Not interested in usb to display latency.
I have the 201 and believe it contains the same image sensor and I can get to a sharper focus than your pic. I think you could have focused it better.
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« Reply #5477 on: January 22, 2018, 10:34:26 pm »
@chrisLX200: can you estimate the latency on the integral LCD and HDMI out? Not interested in usb to display latency.
[...]

I have yet to try the HDMI connection on the desk PC, it would be worthwhile to use it if only because of the increased resolution available via HDMI but sadly my workshop PC monitor doesn't have an HDMI input. I've got a [standard] HDMI > DVI adapter cable but of course the Adonstar uses mini HDMI connector :(

Also, I tried a normal polariser and also circular polariser filter - made no difference at all. That came as a surprise TBH, I would have expected some of the reflections to be reduced? Of course I tried rotating the filters whilst watching!
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« Reply #5478 on: January 23, 2018, 12:27:32 am »
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« Reply #5479 on: January 23, 2018, 12:32:42 am »
Ah. Just realised I can get even lower magnification/wider field by moving the camera upwards in its bracket, that gives me about 9" clearance under the lens.
That's impressive, a massive improvement on my Andonstar scope, it could only manage at best 3.5", but my new one can do 6" which is enough to get and solder with ease once I've mastered the art of soldering etc while looking at the monitor. Yours has a far greater field of view I post a of picture of mine at 6" working height which is still a giant leap forwards for me, not a match for yours though but then it did only cost me £46 so I can't complain, it will be a great aid to me when working with SMD stuff. Strange though, still photos seem to loose the aspect ratio, on screen as a live feed its perfect.

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« Reply #5480 on: January 23, 2018, 01:06:24 am »
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« Reply #5481 on: January 23, 2018, 01:32:41 am »
@chrisLX200: can you estimate the latency on the integral LCD and HDMI out? Not interested in usb to display latency.
[...]

I have yet to try the HDMI connection on the desk PC

How about latency via built-in screen? If it's reasonable for soldering, the lack of stereo vision might be OK, especially considering the price.
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« Reply #5482 on: January 23, 2018, 01:50:58 am »
How about latency via built-in screen? If it's reasonable for soldering, the lack of stereo vision might be OK, especially considering the price.

I would like to know that also.
I am just about to pull the trigger on a model ADSM301.
Web says 30fps @ 600lux.
Appears to be nearly the same spec as the 302, except:
Fixed LCD angle.
Smaller working distance.
30mm shorter base.
~USD96 cheaper.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Andonstar-new-HDMI-USB-microscope-long-object-distance-electronic-microscope-for-mobile-phone-rapair-soldering-tool/32833389673.html
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« Reply #5483 on: January 23, 2018, 04:34:29 am »
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« Reply #5484 on: January 23, 2018, 06:53:39 am »
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« Reply #5485 on: January 23, 2018, 09:47:05 am »
Nice Toy @CalMachine  :-+

It had been nearly 2 days since I brought something so I brought a bit of Crap on Ebay  :o A Power Supply that requires Interlock Switches and Counters will be fun to play with. I did really buy it for the nice modular case to mount so other stuff in but should be fun to pull down and get a few cool parts from. $60 AUD delivered btw.





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« Reply #5486 on: January 23, 2018, 11:04:09 am »
@chrisLX200: can you estimate the latency on the integral LCD and HDMI out? Not interested in usb to display latency.
[...]

I have yet to try the HDMI connection on the desk PC

How about latency via built-in screen? If it's reasonable for soldering, the lack of stereo vision might be OK, especially considering the price.

Latency is very usable either way - you're getting 30fps which is not going to win prizes (fast movement will cause tearing) but for normal work it's fine. I just had to repair daughter's fine gold chain so I used this microscope, worked perfectly for this fiddly job.

Anyway, it will go into my workshop today so when I have it connected up I'll make some vids..
 
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« Reply #5487 on: January 23, 2018, 11:12:23 am »
Ah. Just realised I can get even lower magnification/wider field by moving the camera upwards in its bracket, that gives me about 9" clearance under the lens.
That's impressive, a massive improvement on my Andonstar scope, it could only manage at best 3.5", but my new one can do 6" which is enough to get and solder with ease once I've mastered the art of soldering etc while looking at the monitor. Yours has a far greater field of view I post a of picture of mine at 6" working height which is still a giant leap forwards for me, not a match for yours though but then it did only cost me £46 so I can't complain, it will be a great aid to me when working with SMD stuff. Strange though, still photos seem to loose the aspect ratio, on screen as a live feed its perfect.


I was going to buy the same model as yours, last minute decision after watching a YouTube vid made me change my mind :) Your's will certainly do the job though. Software for mine needs a lot of work - it's version 1.0 :)  You can easily change aspect ratio of saved images but maybe there's a setting somewhere (ini file?) you can change.
 

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« Reply #5488 on: January 23, 2018, 12:01:24 pm »
Ah. Just realised I can get even lower magnification/wider field by moving the camera upwards in its bracket, that gives me about 9" clearance under the lens.
That's impressive, a massive improvement on my Andonstar scope, it could only manage at best 3.5", but my new one can do 6" which is enough to get and solder with ease once I've mastered the art of soldering etc while looking at the monitor. Yours has a far greater field of view I post a of picture of mine at 6" working height which is still a giant leap forwards for me, not a match for yours though but then it did only cost me £46 so I can't complain, it will be a great aid to me when working with SMD stuff. Strange though, still photos seem to loose the aspect ratio, on screen as a live feed its perfect.


I was going to buy the same model as yours, last minute decision after watching a YouTube vid made me change my mind :) Your's will certainly do the job though. Software for mine needs a lot of work - it's version 1.0 :)  You can easily change aspect ratio of saved images but maybe there's a setting somewhere (ini file?) you can change.
I can't change the aspect ration, I'm afraid thats something that I think I'm stuck with as the device didn't come with any software, its all programmed into the unit. If you use on its own monitor and press the snapshot button, you can see the distortion on playback. If I run the microscope on the PC using the software that came with my Andonstar A1 and use the Ctrl L button sequence the aspect is correct, here is a couple of shots of the same PCB one using the Andonstar software (small untouched photo) and using the microscope as a standalone item and saved to SD card, large photo also untouched. If only the PC captured image was as large the one saved to SD card but I suspect has everything to do with the fact that the A1 microscope only has 2MP image file while the new microscope is supposed to be 3.6MP.



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« Reply #5489 on: January 23, 2018, 03:21:20 pm »
Latency is very usable either way - you're getting 30fps which is not going to win prizes (fast movement will cause tearing)

Frame rate has nothing to do with tearing.  Tearing is caused by not redrawing the framebuffer in sync with the v-sync pulse and/or not using double buffering and attempting to draw the active frame direct while it's being output.
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« Reply #5490 on: January 23, 2018, 03:35:35 pm »
Hi,

Not to be negative, is it me or you are spending a hell of a lot of money on what a second hand Canon EOS 600D ($250 on eBay) and a $25 software can do?

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« Reply #5491 on: January 23, 2018, 04:21:25 pm »
Not to be negative, is it me or you are spending a hell of a lot of money on what a second hand Canon EOS 600D ($250 on eBay) and a $25 software can do?

I use my Tagarno for soldering, too. It is so much less hurting my back to look at the monitor than leaned over my old stereo microscope. Was a bit unusual at first to look at the monitor, but now I can do it faster than with my old microscope, just soldered another prototype of my Bloxorz cartridge. I guess 60 Hz, no visible lag and no tearing helps.
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« Reply #5492 on: January 23, 2018, 04:28:46 pm »
Simple and quick video recording using the Adonstar ADSM302. This view is similar to that available on the 5" monitor. Recording via the USB link to PC will be lower quality (USB2 link is bandwidth limited!). USB3 would have been preferred.. Anyway, hope you can assess the view quality from this..

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« Reply #5493 on: January 23, 2018, 04:46:32 pm »
$50 worth of white LED display modules from Ali.

For scale, the matrix modules are just 2cm square, with 1.9mm dots at 2.5mm pitch. The largest 7-segments there are 0.56".
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« Reply #5494 on: January 23, 2018, 08:12:15 pm »
I use my Tagarno for soldering, too. It is so much less hurting my back to look at the monitor than leaned over my old stereo microscope. Was a bit unusual at first to look at the monitor, but now I can do it faster than with my old microscope, just soldered another prototype of my Bloxorz cartridge. I guess 60 Hz, no visible lag and no tearing helps.

Hi,

I was actually talking about live streaming the video from the DSLR to a monitor. I used to do that for dissections at uni. It is very versatile in terms of optics.
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« Reply #5495 on: January 23, 2018, 09:33:44 pm »
I use my Tagarno for soldering, too. It is so much less hurting my back to look at the monitor than leaned over my old stereo microscope. Was a bit unusual at first to look at the monitor, but now I can do it faster than with my old microscope, just soldered another prototype of my Bloxorz cartridge. I guess 60 Hz, no visible lag and no tearing helps.

Hi,

I was actually talking about live streaming the video from the DSLR to a monitor. I used to do that for dissections at uni. It is very versatile in terms of optics.
What lens would you use for that then to say achieve a magnification factor of 400X and also the tripod or camera mount would be getting in the way surely?
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« Reply #5496 on: January 23, 2018, 09:49:53 pm »
I used to have a wooden frame over the table (ideally, you'd mount it on the wall, on something like a wall TV mount to avoid any vibrations), about 1m above, a 55-200mm lens and macro extension rings.

Only thing I was lacking was decent lighting, LED's were still pretty expensive at the time and incandescent was too how for dissecting flowers.

If I can get my hands on the macro rings, I'll sit some footage tomorrow and post it.

Edit: I didn't get 400x magnification with that lens mounted that high but that's only a matter of distance and focal length.

Edit, again: one good trick to get good magnification is to mount a lens backwards.
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« Reply #5497 on: January 23, 2018, 11:35:48 pm »
A 256x64 dot matrix display on a controller board, just turned up in the mail.

Apparently it does both ASCII text and graphic dot per dot or a mix of the two



Just displaying gibberish as I didn't interface it to anything, just a few jumpers on a breadboard.

I'm glad dorkshoei didn't want it to fix his test gear.
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« Reply #5498 on: January 23, 2018, 11:39:47 pm »
I used to have a wooden frame over the table (ideally, you'd mount it on the wall, on something like a wall TV mount to avoid any vibrations), about 1m above, a 55-200mm lens and macro extension rings.

Only thing I was lacking was decent lighting, LED's were still pretty expensive at the time and incandescent was too how for dissecting flowers.

If I can get my hands on the macro rings, I'll sit some footage tomorrow and post it.

Edit: I didn't get 400x magnification with that lens mounted that high but that's only a matter of distance and focal length.

Edit, again: one good trick to get good magnification is to mount a lens backwards.
I've got three Canon DSLR's and I don't think you could mount a lens backwards because of the Canons mounting system and besides you need the connections between the lens elements for the focusing motor etc for the camera to function?
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« Reply #5499 on: January 24, 2018, 12:00:16 am »
Reverse Mounting is quite common for macro photography on a budget, so yes, it can be done.

Mostly people use older lenses with the manual aperture ring and you need a adapter from your camera mount to whatever mm your filter thread is, then you use the camera in manual mode.


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https://digital-photography-school.com/reverse-mounting-your-prime-lenses-for-affordable-macro-photography/
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