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Re: What did you buy today? Post your latest purchase!
« Reply #8925 on: July 15, 2019, 01:10:15 pm »
Not Arrow but Mouser is 'special' too along with this Digikey one. 2x LTZ1000's .....

The Case has now turned up so just the GPU to go but I can do most of the rest now.

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« Reply #8926 on: July 15, 2019, 01:18:24 pm »
5 out 7 chunks of my new PC - 'Some assembly Required'

The Power Supply seller 'Digilife' and their packaging makes me wonder if they used to work for Digikey or if they are an offshoot.  :palm:

Presumably you have never dealt with Arrow.
Defpom just got some stuff from them and it was all wrapped up like a P*X doctors d*ck !  :o



Not Arrow but Mouser is 'special' too along with this Digikey one. 2x LTZ1000's .....

The Case has now turned up so just the GPU to go but I can do most of the rest now.


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« Reply #8927 on: July 16, 2019, 03:09:31 am »
A pink Macbook 12" 2017 as a nostalgic item since it was discontinued (hello MSFT, how about making a Surface Go that doesn't stutter? It would be better if it doesn't take 2 seconds to popup Action Center). I shouldn't have sold mine last year in the first place :palm:.



This unit is a mint condition unit, sold by Apple in this June before its previous owner decided to sell it, so considering a solid 35% off from MSRP+customization (this is a top specced unit), I won't complain about the price.

The 7th gen Y-series i7 is just as fast as 8th gen Y-series i5, so this unit is nowhere slower than the current Macbook Air Retina.

Macbook processors have been downgraded. It used to be 15W for Air, 28W for 13" Pro and the bug gun for 15" Pro.

Since 11" Air, 12" Retina and 13" Air have been merged, it's now 7W for Air (now only offered in 13"), 15W w/o Iris Pro and eDRAM for entry level ($1499) 13" Pro, 28W w/ Iris Pro and eDRAM GPU for higher end 13" Pro ($1799+), and the 15" remains the same 45W/55W CPUs.
 

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« Reply #8928 on: July 16, 2019, 10:18:30 am »
After destroying my cheap Jaycar bench mat, while removing SMD components with my Hot air gun on the weekend, I finally ordered a hopefully decent mat from Amazon:

Bertech 2059T-18x30BKT ESD High Temperature Rubber Mat Kit with A Wrist Strap and A Grounding Cord, 18" Wide x 30" Long x 0.08"

and it arrived yesterday, my bench looks so much better now!  :-+


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« Reply #8929 on: July 16, 2019, 04:57:36 pm »
My new Macbook went straight back to the seller.

Claimed to be mint condition, in reality a heavily scuffed one on the back of the hinge and a dent on the bottom.

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« Reply #8930 on: July 17, 2019, 02:06:41 pm »
A pink Macbook 12" 2017 as a nostalgic item since it was discontinued (hello MSFT, how about making a Surface Go that doesn't stutter? It would be better if it doesn't take 2 seconds to popup Action Center). I shouldn't have sold mine last year in the first place :palm:.
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« Reply #8931 on: July 17, 2019, 02:12:43 pm »
You can try to learn using macOS on this. If you have the CS foundation you will find macOS a solid UNIX distribution, capable of replacing Linux in some cases. Also do install Xcode, XQuartz and homebrew for maximum code compatibility with Linux.

My daily driver is a MacMini running Mojave. And yes, I was admitted to college by bonus points from NOIP awards. I didn't choose CS, but EE instead, though.
 


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« Reply #8933 on: July 17, 2019, 08:17:44 pm »
So today I bought two more USB to barrel jack power cords, and a bunch of HCT214 current transformers. I am not sure what is the exact type I got as there are two variants though. How do I figure that out?
 

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« Reply #8934 on: July 17, 2019, 08:22:53 pm »
My daily driver is a MacMini running Mojave.
Mac Mini was always a bit underwhelming to me somehow. The hardware is underperforming and it is not justifying the cost. Should there be an Intel NUC that uses socketed wireless module (so a genuine Apple wireless module can be used for proper Wi-Fi and Bluetooth support, as well as allowing the use of Continuity and Handoff) that can make a better small form factor macOS machine with Hackintosh. Bonus point if it is the ones with AMD RX Vega graphics as Apple never had a Mac Mini that has a dedicated GPU but macOS does support those built-in chipsets.
 

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« Reply #8935 on: July 17, 2019, 11:57:43 pm »
My daily driver is a MacMini running Mojave.
Mac Mini was always a bit underwhelming to me somehow. The hardware is underperforming and it is not justifying the cost. Should there be an Intel NUC that uses socketed wireless module (so a genuine Apple wireless module can be used for proper Wi-Fi and Bluetooth support, as well as allowing the use of Continuity and Handoff) that can make a better small form factor macOS machine with Hackintosh. Bonus point if it is the ones with AMD RX Vega graphics as Apple never had a Mac Mini that has a dedicated GPU but macOS does support those built-in chipsets.
The mini — other than that weird phase where Apple didn't update it for years — is certainly not "underperforming" for tasks that don't need the power of a dedicated GPU. Where'd you get that idea? You wouldn't use a mini as a high-end workstation, but for most things, they're just as capable as an iMac, or the MacBook Air, which is Apple's most popular model. And of course, with Thunderbolt, you can use an external GPU with it if you want.

My current desktop is a 2008 Mac Pro, which is clearly showing its age. With the new Mac Pro being a much higher end workstation than the 2008 model, there's no way I can justify getting a new Mac Pro, so I'll either end up with an iMac, or with a new Mac mini and some kind of NAS or external RAID enclosure for all the drives. (Internal drives are the thing I'll miss most. USB drives are never quite as reliable, e.g. when going to sleep.)
 

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« Reply #8936 on: July 18, 2019, 07:51:28 am »
The mini — other than that weird phase where Apple didn't update it for years — is certainly not "underperforming" for tasks that don't need the power of a dedicated GPU. Where'd you get that idea? You wouldn't use a mini as a high-end workstation, but for most things, they're just as capable as an iMac, or the MacBook Air, which is Apple's most popular model. And of course, with Thunderbolt, you can use an external GPU with it if you want.

My current desktop is a 2008 Mac Pro, which is clearly showing its age. With the new Mac Pro being a much higher end workstation than the 2008 model, there's no way I can justify getting a new Mac Pro, so I'll either end up with an iMac, or with a new Mac mini and some kind of NAS or external RAID enclosure for all the drives. (Internal drives are the thing I'll miss most. USB drives are never quite as reliable, e.g. when going to sleep.)

My Daily driver is a late 2012 i7 Mini and it's still serving me well - adding a 120GB Samsung 840 PRO SSD a few years back (in Fusion mode with the 1TB) made a massive difference to it and gave it a whole new lease on life. I'm seriously considering replacing the fusion drive with a 1TB 860 EVO to lengthen it's life even further.
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Re: What did you buy today? Post your latest purchase!
« Reply #8937 on: July 18, 2019, 05:11:16 pm »
The mini — other than that weird phase where Apple didn't update it for years — is certainly not "underperforming" for tasks that don't need the power of a dedicated GPU. Where'd you get that idea? You wouldn't use a mini as a high-end workstation, but for most things, they're just as capable as an iMac, or the MacBook Air, which is Apple's most popular model. And of course, with Thunderbolt, you can use an external GPU with it if you want.
What I mean is it is underperforming for its price, and it is not user upgradeable. Previous Mac Mini's (and MacBook Pro for that matter) are at least partially user upgradeable even though it means voiding warranty, but recent models started soldering down components like storage and memory, forcing me to pay for the Apple tax on upgrade components. Also it makes recovery a nightmare.

That is why I brought up Intel NUC as a comparison. NUCs are user upgradeable.

My Daily driver is a late 2012 i7 Mini and it's still serving me well - adding a 120GB Samsung 840 PRO SSD a few years back (in Fusion mode with the 1TB) made a massive difference to it and gave it a whole new lease on life. I'm seriously considering replacing the fusion drive with a 1TB 860 EVO to lengthen it's life even further.
When I bought my 2011 MacBook Pro I bought it with maxed out CPU (it is the 13-inch model so integrated GPU only anyway) but base memory and storage, and three days after I bought the machine I upgraded its memory and storage. This upgrade surpassed the maximum offer from Apple and is cheaper. Also back then those MacBook Pro's can be upgraded without affecting warranty. As of now my main Apple computer is a 2012 MacBook Pro, with 16GB memory and 1TB Samsung 850 Evo SSD. My daily driver is a Hackintosh though, with base hardware about equivalent to the top-of-the-line 2014 iMac and a RX 580 graphics card (slightly better than the Radeon Pro 580 in base 2018 Mac Pro)
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« Reply #8938 on: July 18, 2019, 05:16:10 pm »
What I mean is it is underperforming for its price, and it is not user upgradeable. Previous Mac Mini's (and MacBook Pro for that matter) are at least partially user upgradeable even though it means voiding warranty, but recent models started soldering down components like storage and memory, forcing me to pay for the Apple tax on upgrade components.

I upgraded mine from 8GB to 32GB. It's certainly doable.
SSD is soldered down, though.
 

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« Reply #8939 on: July 18, 2019, 05:18:18 pm »
I love my data being soldered into the thing that occasionally breaks, especially considering we currently have excellent M.2 slots which are both compact and effectively providing a solution for the removal of your data from a system.  :popcorn:
 

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« Reply #8940 on: July 18, 2019, 05:20:42 pm »
What I mean is it is underperforming for its price, and it is not user upgradeable. Previous Mac Mini's (and MacBook Pro for that matter) are at least partially user upgradeable even though it means voiding warranty, but recent models started soldering down components like storage and memory, forcing me to pay for the Apple tax on upgrade components.

I upgraded mine from 8GB to 32GB. It's certainly doable.
SSD is soldered down, though.
That soldered down SSD is a major gripe for me. If you went with the previous generation even the memory chips are soldered down.

I love my data being soldered into the thing that occasionally breaks, especially considering we currently have excellent M.2 slots which are both compact and effectively providing a solution for the removal of your data from a system.  :popcorn:
Apple is not a fan of standard interfaces really... However there are adapters that allows insallation of standard M.2 drives in certain Mac models, include some older Mac Mini's that does not have soldered down storage.
 

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« Reply #8941 on: July 18, 2019, 05:24:20 pm »
That soldered down SSD is a major gripe for me. If you went with the previous generation even the memory chips are soldered down.

Depending on how much are you willing to pay, there are Thunderbolt 3 to M2 adapters that can give you ~22Gbps of BW for $160, still way cheaper than Apple tax on higher capacity upgrades.
 

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« Reply #8942 on: July 18, 2019, 05:29:13 pm »
That soldered down SSD is a major gripe for me. If you went with the previous generation even the memory chips are soldered down.

Depending on how much are you willing to pay, there are Thunderbolt 3 to M2 adapters that can give you ~22Gbps of BW for $160, still way cheaper than Apple tax on higher capacity upgrades.
Then I would buy a used unit with both memory and storage not soldered down, then install maxed out memory, that Apple proprietary to NVMe adapter and a standard NVMe drive in it. This is even cheaper although I miss out the warranty. Or Hackintosh on a NUC which is really about the same.
 

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« Reply #8943 on: July 18, 2019, 05:43:36 pm »
Then I would buy a used unit with both memory and storage not soldered down, then install maxed out memory, that Apple proprietary to NVMe adapter and a standard NVMe drive in it. This is even cheaper although I miss out the warranty. Or Hackintosh on a NUC which is really about the same.

You do realize the 2018 MacMini actually has a full desktop 65W CPU? With a bit of modification (liquid metal TIM, RAM upgrade), you get a stupidly fast tiny computer that leaves all NUCs far behind.

Also, Apple certainly knows who is using genuine hardware and who is not. If Apple desires so, they can roll out an OS update that nukes all Hackintosh computers in no time.
 
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« Reply #8944 on: July 18, 2019, 10:00:08 pm »
You do realize the 2018 MacMini actually has a full desktop 65W CPU? With a bit of modification (liquid metal TIM, RAM upgrade), you get a stupidly fast tiny computer that leaves all NUCs far behind.
The storage upgrades are stupid expensive though. I have 1.3TB of data on my current Hackintosh, and that means I am pegged at the 2TB option and no upgrade path.

Also, Apple certainly knows who is using genuine hardware and who is not. If Apple desires so, they can roll out an OS update that nukes all Hackintosh computers in no time.
They have no incentive to do that though, as they know what kind of people are using Hackintoshes - the last crowd of people they want to alienate are the power users.

AFAIK that list on Apple website about Metal-compatible graphics cards for 2009/2010 Mac Pro and eGPU comes from Hackintosh community's reports. So keeping Hackintosh community alive means Apple have a crowd of volunteer product testers, mostly power users or better, providing them free R&D.
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« Reply #8945 on: July 18, 2019, 10:26:41 pm »
The Mac mini is the only Apple product I was ever tempted to own. I'm still looking for an ebay deal on an older one.
 

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« Reply #8946 on: July 19, 2019, 05:02:57 am »
Apple’s SSD pricing is high, but people often forget that it’s insanely fast SSD storage. Granted, even SATA SSD speed is more than adequate for many tasks, but the latest Macs with large T2-based SSDs have storage bandwidth approaching the RAM bandwidth of my 2008 Mac Pro!! (The 2018 mini has 3.4GB/sec SSD bandwidth, versus the 7.5GB/sec best-case scenario for RAM on the 2008 Pro.)
 

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« Reply #8947 on: July 19, 2019, 06:07:17 am »
The storage upgrades are stupid expensive though. I have 1.3TB of data on my current Hackintosh, and that means I am pegged at the 2TB option and no upgrade path.

MacMini has 4 TBT3 ports. Using one of them you can get 22Gbps of BW, and 32Gbps if you use two.
Even with one port (and a cheap single port TBT3 peripheral controller), you get 22Gbps=2.75GBps of BW.

Even not using TBT3, those cheap JMC controller based USB3.1 NVMe controllers get you ~1GBps BW, which should be plenty enough.
I spent $250 on a 2TB USB3.1 NVMe external SSD, and that's only a few bucks more than the bare drive itself. Can't beat the value.
On my Mac's native port it achieved ~950MBps and on a derived port from my dock (TBT3->PCIex4->split x1->USB3.1 controller) it still achieved 650MBps, which is pretty good.

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« Reply #8948 on: July 19, 2019, 07:09:53 pm »
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« Reply #8949 on: July 20, 2019, 03:47:27 pm »
super glue for copper-clad boards. I will love soldering on to copper clad, another reason to love EE
 


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