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Title: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: ez24 on September 29, 2015, 08:16:59 pm
Hi

I think this contest is for electronic equipment that is used to work on electronics:

http://www.nutsvolts.com/pages/the_workbench_challenge_2015 (http://www.nutsvolts.com/pages/the_workbench_challenge_2015)

Quote: "  What is “essential” to an electronics workbench?"

Dave says a "work bench" is a physical thing you have to build to put electronic stuff on:
"EEVblog #679 - How To Build A Small Electronics Work Bench "

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuUSIt3rbyU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuUSIt3rbyU)

Could the difference be "workbench" vs "work bench"?  YT posters use both words for both ideas.

Is there anyway to make it clearer which is which other than a space?

The first thing when I saw the contest was benches and shelves because that was the first thing I built in order to put the stuff on.

Edit:  Added "Survey" to title


Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" is ?
Post by: nctnico on September 29, 2015, 10:57:45 pm
You forgot one option: a computer program to simulate circuits. That must be about 25 years old by now.
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" is ?
Post by: ez24 on September 29, 2015, 11:02:54 pm
You forgot one option: a computer program to simulate circuits. That must be about 25 years old by now.
Your right - I remember seeing this on YT - I will see if I can add it - I cannot - sorry
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" is ?
Post by: joeqsmith on September 29, 2015, 11:16:47 pm
You forgot one option: a computer program to simulate circuits. That must be about 25 years old by now.

That was what I thought this would be about.   I think National Instruments bought that package.   Gone like Saber.   
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" is ?
Post by: ez24 on September 29, 2015, 11:21:24 pm
You forgot one option: a computer program to simulate circuits. That must be about 25 years old by now.

That was what I thought this would be about.   I think National Instruments bought that package.   Gone like Saber.

Edited title:  Changed "is" to "means"
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ?
Post by: EEVblog on September 30, 2015, 12:36:38 am
It's in the title "bench".
If you use your floor to build stuff, that's your bench. If it's your kitchen table, that's your bench.
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ?
Post by: Red Squirrel on September 30, 2015, 12:51:37 am
It's the place where magic smoke is let out of innocent components.  :-DD
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" is ?
Post by: Dave on September 30, 2015, 12:56:09 am
You forgot one option: a computer program to simulate circuits. That must be about 25 years old by now.
(http://m.eet.com/media/1032336/world_of_bob_pease_hp.jpg)
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: ez24 on September 30, 2015, 01:40:49 am
It's in the title "bench".
If you use your floor to build stuff, that's your bench. If it's your kitchen table, that's your bench.


I agree "bench" is anywhere where you build stuff.

Nuts and Bolts uses "workbench" to mean stuff.  Would you know what I mean if I asked you to put together a $200 workbench?

Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: bills on September 30, 2015, 02:17:48 am
ez24 ?
do you have a day job ?
seems that you answer almost every post? not that is a bad thing just unusual.
bill
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: AF6LJ on September 30, 2015, 03:35:26 am
An electronic workbench can be your kitchen table with a soldering iron, a Simpson 260 and a hammer.
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: ez24 on September 30, 2015, 03:38:31 am
ez24 ?
do you have a day job ?
seems that you answer almost every post? not that is a bad thing just unusual.
bill
No
Edit - but I wish I did  :)
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: Mr.B on September 30, 2015, 03:44:13 am
I think the "Electronic Workbench" is the bench on which you do the work.
An "Electronics Lab" or "Electronics Workshop" is the place where the combination of Workbench and Tools, Test Equipment, etc are located.
An "Electronics Lab" may also be used for another purpose. I have seen plenty of people here whose bedroom is also their lab.
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: ez24 on September 30, 2015, 04:08:06 am
I think the "Electronic Workbench" is the bench on which you do the work.
An "Electronics Lab" or "Electronics Workshop" is the place where the combination of Workbench and Tools, Test Equipment, etc are located.
An "Electronics Lab" may also be used for another purpose. I have seen plenty of people here whose bedroom is also their lab.
What I was thinking, maybe someday I can put together a contest like Nuts and Bolts.  I wonder if I could use Kickstarted to raise funds for prizes.  I think cash is best because of shipping costs and customs.

 I just do not know what to call the "thing".  I wonder if "lab" can be used?  After this post dies away I just may ask what names should be given to "stuff"  Maybe stuff?

I like the way Nuts and Bolts set up their rules by not allowing used, ebay, Chinese Amazon, etc.  I think this is a flaw in one of Dave's video.  Maybe he would do a video on the list from the winner.

thanks everyone
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ?
Post by: T3sl4co1l on September 30, 2015, 04:19:12 am
It's in the title "bench".
If you use your floor to build stuff, that's your bench. If it's your kitchen table, that's your bench.

Once upon a time, this was my Bench (in part):

(http://seventransistorlabs.com/tmoranwms/Elec_IndProgress.jpg)

Tim
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ?
Post by: ez24 on September 30, 2015, 04:27:51 am

Once upon a time, this was my Bench (in part):

(http://seventransistorlabs.com/tmoranwms/Elec_IndProgress.jpg)
Tim
Nice - going to look for my jorgy now

Is the stuff on your bench - an electronics workbench ?
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: Mechanical Menace on September 30, 2015, 04:47:56 am
I just do not know what to call the "thing".

Electronics toolbox/toolkit?
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: lapm on September 30, 2015, 04:56:26 am
For me bench is holy place. My temple where i can focus my natural way to something i like doing. In this case doing electronics stuff... It has all tools i most often need. All has its rightfull place. Yes it does include small netbook with extra monitor for reading datasheets, doing some programming for pic/atmel parts. No i dont use simulation software yet, but one day...
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: pickle9000 on September 30, 2015, 05:04:41 am
No vote from me, it's called "The Bench".
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: G7PSK on September 30, 2015, 03:18:03 pm
Has any one invented an electronic workbench or work bench, I have never seen one.
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: ez24 on September 30, 2015, 06:27:32 pm
I just do not know what to call the "thing".

Electronics toolbox/toolkit?

Electronics toolkit is my favorite so far  :-+
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: sleemanj on September 30, 2015, 06:36:30 pm
English, it's all about context.
Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: nanofrog on September 30, 2015, 08:06:17 pm
Both IMHO (physical space to do the work + tools to do it with, as one is worthless without the other).   :)

And I actually have an old copy of Electronics Workbench software package, on 3.5" floppy no less (I liked it for what it was).  >:D  FWIW, it's NI's MultiSIM package now.

Title: Re: What do you think "Electronic Workbench" means ? --- Survey
Post by: donmr on September 30, 2015, 08:20:41 pm
The questions is whether the adjective modifying the object "Workbench" describes the composition of the workbench or its use.

I think an "Electronic Workbench" is a workbench that has a significant amount of electronic devices in its construction.  Electronic does not denote any objects just their properties so it must describe the composition of the workbench itself, like a "Wooden Workbench".

I think an "Electronics Workbench" is workbench for working on electronics because that word can denote other objects.

Isn't the ambiguity of the English language wonderful?