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thm_w:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on May 05, 2022, 12:59:14 am ---I'm not supposing that Microsoft will suddenly "turn up their toes" & disappear, but there is, on their previous form, the likelihood that "One drive" will change to a subscription service, so they "can hold my files to ransom"!

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Onedrive files will exist on the PC they were created on, they are not deleted in the background, so there is no ransom risk here.
The subscription option already exists: if you use more than 5GB, you can pay $20/year for the 100GB account.

Privacy concerns still valid of course.
Monkeh:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on May 05, 2022, 12:59:14 am ---if all your files rely on an intact Internet connection, you are out of luck.

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It's a good job that's not how One Drive works then, eh?
vk6zgo:

--- Quote from: Monkeh on May 05, 2022, 01:50:25 am ---
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on May 05, 2022, 12:59:14 am ---if all your files rely on an intact Internet connection, you are out of luck.

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It's a good job that's not how One Drive works then, eh?

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Oops!! I saw "cloud", & my "inner Luddite" came to the fore! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on May 05, 2022, 06:39:14 am ---
--- Quote from: Monkeh on May 05, 2022, 01:50:25 am ---
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on May 05, 2022, 12:59:14 am ---if all your files rely on an intact Internet connection, you are out of luck.

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It's a good job that's not how One Drive works then, eh?

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Oops!! I saw "cloud", & my "inner Luddite" came to the fore! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

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I'm gradually coming to the conclusion that Microsoft's cloud offering is among the "least bad" of the bunch...    they have a free offering that's better than Dropbox (mostly because Dropbox limits you to max 3 devices on a free account.   So when you buy a new phone or something...  you can't install Dropbox on it.   If you wanted to invent a policy to stop people using your product, it's hard to think of a better idea!).   

Some of the MS subscription models are (currently) so cheap that it compares "OK" with running your own server, for some purposes (e.g. 100GB for $2 a month is fine for storing critical data (encrypted!) off site, for example).   

Of course, you are at the mercy of arbitrary price increases once you get dependent on these services.  You just have to remember, when doing the math, that is isn't actually free to run your own server, and you deserve better than valuing your own time at zero as well!  :D


xrunner:
Email received from group that acquired Insteon this PM -


--- Quote ---Hello,

In case you missed my blog post, my name is Ken Fairbanks and I am leading a small group of passionate Insteon users that have successfully acquired Insteon. Like many of you, our homes are powered by Insteon’s amazing dual-mesh technology and highly configurable products.

Like you, I was outraged at the sudden loss of connectivity to my Insteon Hub without warning. Many of you discovered just the other day that the Insteon Hubs began coming back online. While we didn't intend to surprise you again, our first priority was restoring access to your hubs immediately even before we had access to send you this email. Every day more customers were giving up hope so it was critical to get that restored as soon as possible. We are aware not all functions are back online but we are actively working on it. We hope you understand this urgency and appreciate your patience.

Here's a list of Insteon Hub services we are actively working on or have completed:

    Access to Insteon Hub: Completed
    Apps available in Google Play and Apple App Store: Completed
    Push notifications: Completed
    Email notifications: Completed
    Amazon Alexa skill availability: In process
    Google Assistant availability: In process

In addition to the efforts above, we are working to see what inventory we have available as well as reaching out to factories to restart manufacturing.

Going forward we are committed to responsibly re-building the Insteon business. Our commitment to you, as part of the Insteon family, is to listen, communicate and be as transparent as possible in everything we do.

With that in mind, our immediate plan is to make the Insteon Hub services a self-sustaining business. This is where we need your help. To properly and responsibly run and support these services we will be introducing a yearly subscription fee of $39.95, or $69.95 for two years.

We are working to finalize the details of the subscription and should have more information as well as ways to purchase it by next week. Meanwhile, I would love to hear your thoughts. Please reach out here.

We will also be posting updates on Insteon’s social media accounts so if you don’t tend to check email as often, you can get updates on the Insteon blog, twitter, facebook, and reddit.

Thank you all for your patience. We look forward to sharing this new journey with you.

Best regards,

Ken Fairbanks

CEO, Insteon Technologies
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Insteon Technologies

29 Sonrisa, Irvine, CA 92620
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