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What happens when your cloud service just pulls the plug - Insteon gone
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ebastler:

--- Quote from: SL4P on April 28, 2022, 11:23:08 pm ---Remember, almost all consumer CLOUD junk is hosted in China.

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Is that so? I would have assumed that the major consumer brands predominantly use Amazon, Google and Microsoft cloud services, and that these are hosted in the US and in Europe.

Would you have examples of consumer-brand IoT systems which have their servers based in China?
cdev:
Nothing, because corporations just go out of business without any accountability. Thats a thing they do. take their money and run. Thats why corporations are set up. To insulate debtors from creditors.
cdev:

--- Quote from: SL4P on April 28, 2022, 11:23:08 pm ---
--- Quote from: jonpaul on April 18, 2022, 03:51:00 pm ---a single EMP attack could kill all cloud, internet and devices over an entire continent or country

Back to,1950, vacuum tubes will still  work fine..

Checkout Starfish Prime Pacific nuclear test in 1952

Jon

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Remember, almost all consumer CLOUD junk is hosted in China.
They may close the door any time.
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Its not true that "almost all cloud junk is hosted in China"  Thats untrue of US cloud services. There are lots of hosting farms in several areas  Because, there.. Its cheap... to host services in the US. It costs very little. Huge buildings filled with servers. Some areas, like Dallas, Tx. have a lot of servers. Probably because its cheap there.. hosting and power?
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madires:
Not really IoT, but a lot of bloatware apps preinstalled on Android phones from Chinese brands send data/telemetry back home to servers in China. And the major cloud hosters have datacenters in China too. A small IoT service might run its platform only at a specifc datacenter/location. Larger platforms are usually distributed across multiple locations for lower network latency and resiliency. If you live in Europe your IoT device would most likely talk to a server in Europe (nearest datacenter = lowest latency). When you're in China it would be a server in China. Same for US east coast, west coast and so on.
cdev:
There seems to be a lot of them here in NJ. As of fairly recently. This is because we have fat pipes here in NJ and large hosting centers. After 9-11.

 I remember back when there was only one hosting farm and it was in a big building south of Market in San Francisco that hosted lots and lots of servers.. Ebay was located there, for example. They had extension cords going to the server rooms which were down in the basement... it was a storage building. Some parts of the building were dark, mostly. Very funky. I went there for a few job interviews. At the time I was doing a lot of job hopping.

Dice was always sending me to the same few addresses. I grew to dread going to certain addresses that I viewed as guaranteed to be wastes of my time. Because they always were.
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