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vk6zgo:

--- Quote from: Andy Chee on December 29, 2023, 01:00:26 am ---
--- Quote from: Halcyon on December 27, 2023, 09:59:40 am ---The current litmus test is the Whirlpool forums (whirlpool.net.au).

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Interesting you mention whirlpool moderation.  Whirlpool locks threads for ongoing "thread vandalism", where the OP heavily edits their posts well after the fact, often to change the entire context of their argument, especially in situations where the OP is being heavily criticised.

I just noticed an instance of "thread vandalism" here:


--- Quote from: Someone on December 29, 2023, 12:14:59 am ---[... and there we have it. Changing the post to make it look like people are disagreeing with you. There was no need to edit the original post when you can just add your new argument inline.

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Another thing that Whirlpool do is to tolerate people who go "off topic" making posts that agree with the "approved narrative", even when the "narrative" is the most arrant nonsense.
Post a reply refuting such stuff & setting out the facts, & your post will be deleted as "off topic".
If you try to add a breath of commonsense to enough threads, you can incur a lifetime ban.

I was banned from the politics forum, but they gracefully allowed me to use the other forums,
I told them in ever such a nice fashion that they could shove it!

Then there is the sports site "The Roar", where if you disagree with the OP, your posting is very likely to disappear.
thm_w:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on December 29, 2023, 12:16:24 am ---When I had Covid, a month or so back, it affected my balance a bit, & while feeding the dogs, I fell, hurting my back on the metal tubing of the dog bed.
It was very sore, but only indirectly connected to Covid.

I do feel that Covid enhanced the pain & prolonged it, but it is "just a feeling".

Confusing coincidence with causality has caused a lot of witch hunts (real ones) in the past.

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That sucks, multiple types of viruses can definitely directly cause inner ear issues: "The inner ear is one of the neurological systems that the virus may attack, and the resulting damage may cause vertigo and/or tinnitus". I had similar issues but didn't notice any illness prior... so not sure of the cause.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/labyrinthitis/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10174602/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9531925/


--- Quote from: RJSV on December 28, 2023, 06:58:20 pm ---   Got the usual seasonal FLU SHOT, first off it made my shoulder muscle really sore!  But now, that whole, left arm is weak and sore...the shot was in September...more than 3 months should have been sufficient for the arm muscles to recover.
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Yes 3 months should be enough to resolve any muscle pain, majority of side effects were gone within 3 days in this study, some small percentage lasted 2 weeks: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9898704/
BUT one thing you have to keep in mind, if your arm was temporarily weak and you changed your behavior to not use the muscles in that arm, it can become even weaker. You may need physiotherapy to strengthen and re-accustom yourself. If your posture is bad enough it can pinch and irritate nerves, causing weakness.
You can't always expect things to just get better on their own.
RJSV:
   My point is that the patient shouldn't really be the last bastion of common sense, (leaving the personal gripes out of direct discussion.)
It's nice to track and verify any decisions, hopefully using common sense, but a patient shouldn't be first middle and last 'care expert'.
   I mean, heck, I can't legally prescribe medications, some of which are very dangerous.
SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on December 27, 2023, 11:33:27 pm ---
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on December 27, 2023, 11:25:20 pm ---And now the question is, what if everyone is wrong?
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We are in a simulation anyway.

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Well, not quite. It's a simulation of a simulation of a simulation of a ...
pcprogrammer:
Talking about going off topic, this thread is full of it  :-DD

Did not want to participate, but since this thread was started after reinstating electrodacus and to discuss when to ban someone from the forum just because he/she is wrong despite being the thread owner (OP).

I myself see no reason to ban anyone just because they are wrong. Could think of other behavior as perfect ground for banning, but that is not the issue here. It is quite clear that one can ignore threads/members one does not agree on or like. Freedom of speech should rule here, just as the freedom to ignore is a sort of right just as well.

What I did notice is that electrodacus took the opportunity of being back to start a new thread with the same question already raised earlier in this thread. In itself no harm in it, but it amazes me that a lot of the same more established members jump on it to again try to reason with the unreasonable  |O

Sure I had my fun with it last year, but got tired of a lot of the nonsense, so I try to stick to worthwhile questions to put in a word, though not a lot due to my declining ability to concentrate and increasing fatigue when working on projects. Chronic illness sucks.  :(
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