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What if someone is WRONG on this forum?

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Psi:
I think it's probably too hard of a problem to solve with fixed rules.
Needs human feedback. 

Be cool if regular users could indicate that person X (in their opinion) has done enough to be banned by simply clicking a 'ban' button on that users post.
The vote wouldn't actually do anything itself and you couldn't see if other people were voting to ban you.
Admins could see this ban count and make a call to ban or not, but they would have a good indication that the community is in agreement or not.


(Maybe only usable if you have a high enough post count and have been around for a few years, just to stop bots making many new accounts and trying to game the system against someone)

VK3DRB:

--- Quote from: spork on December 26, 2023, 09:46:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on December 26, 2023, 09:30:39 pm ---Who's is it hurting if they get their jollies discussing physics or other technical details in circles and refuse to admit they are "wrong"?

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"Wrong" is a real thing.  No quotes required.

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I worked with a bloke somewhere far away on the spectrum. He'd get his jollies by telling people "wrong, Wrong, WRONG!". He was a brilliant electronics engineer and one of the  few engineers who could write embedded code properly. We got on well. He was a nice bloke though, despite his strange behaviour. He clashed with another employee with a big ego who wanted to punch his lights out.
 
There was ex-Air Force technician I had to work with in the same company. You couldn't tell this jerk anything no matter how careful one was. If a car was black and he said it was white, you either agreed with him or he'd spit the dummy yelling out "WRONG!". One day has said something about EMC compliance regulations that was incorrect. I gently showed him the paragraph in the standard and he screamed blue murder. He spat the dummy like a big baby and would not speak to me for two weeks. He was rude to the extreme. And dangerous. He once booby trapped his desk with bare 230V live mains wires on it, saying that anyone who touches his desk deserves to be electrocuted, and then he went home. He left the company not long after and I noticed the morale of the place immediately increased markedly. I suspect his mental issues came from him being bullied in the Air Force for 20 years. I came across two other military jerks with a similar mentality. One at a Agilent trade show said "Only real men use analogue oscilloscopes. Digital oscilloscopes are for poofters." Another at a wedding told me I did not work at IBM because they had closed. I told him i was had worked there for 10 years and was still working there at the time with 600 other employees and he I was WRONG, the place had closed, and I that didn't know where I worked.  :scared:

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: Psi on December 27, 2023, 01:09:38 am ---I think it's probably too hard of a problem to solve with fixed rules.
Needs human feedback. 
Be cool if regular uses could indicate that person X (in their opinion) has done enough to be banned by simply clicking a 'ban' button on that users post.
The vote wouldn't actually do anything itself and you couldn't see if other people were voting to ban you.
Mods could see this ban count and make a call to ban or not, but they would have a good indication that the community is in agreement or not.
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We kinda have this already. If someone's posts get repeatedly reported by multiple people then we look at giving a warning.

We also have a crude Twitter Community Notes style feature with the Thanks button. For example, if someone posts somethign that's incredibly wrong and someone does a good technical rebuttal and a dozen people Thank that posts, then it's really obvious to anyone watching that that post that's being rebutted was rubbish. And that's visible to random people searching and not logged in.

fourfathom:
I've participated in the DDWFTTW threads, and argued with electrodaecus (spelling?  don't care)  plenty of times.  He is wrong and can't be convinced.  But it's entertaining, until it's not.  Then I stop participating.  But as far innocent people being directed by Google to Bad Information, this seems pretty self-correcting when 3/4 of the posts are explaining why it's Bad.

wraper:
I thought a bit and if I had to create an actual rule that resolves the situation it would be something like this:
If discussion is somewhat heated, then after thread reaches defined X amount of posts moderator may lock the thread on their discretion. If particular user made over certain % of posts in this thread, and tried creating a new similar one, they get temporary ban. If they reoffend in say 6 months, they get permanent ban. Nothing to do about being right or wrong. In other words, you regulate maximum size of heated discussion rather than judge who is right or wrong.
EDIT: It's not like I propose this rule, just suggest how to look on the problem from a different angle.

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