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| lezginka_kabardinka:
Dave, stand out of the way, I'm throwing down a ropeladder. |
| lezginka_kabardinka:
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| hans:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on December 27, 2023, 03:01:14 am --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on December 27, 2023, 01:42:29 am ---All in all it is a difficult subject with no simple answers. A big grey area in the middle. Someone has to exercise judgement and decide the "purpose" of the forum. Without that the conspiracy theorists (and others) will gradually dominate. --- End quote --- This forum has had the "free and open" policy since day one, and it hasn't ruined the forum. Free energy, flat earthers, crowd funding scammers etc are free to join and disuss, but they usually don't last long because they get ridiculed or ignored. Signal to noise ratio has always been very high, and time wasting threads usually just die into obscurity. --- End quote --- To be honest this forum does feel unmoderated at times, where some infamous "nutcases" will be ridiculed and bashed to virtual death. IMO it wouldn't be my choice on how to treat people. Regarding OP, I think its fair to leave a discussion free and open in case of debate. Moderating on who is right or wrong is how you get echo chambers. Socially, some answers can still win a popularity content using "likes", though. However, some topics can derail quite quickly. Someone asks how to talk to an I2C on a PIC16F, and in 10 posts we'll have opinionated bloat on 32-bit vs 16-bit 8-bit vs [insert fanboy MCU series], why no one should use a RTOS, and whether rhetorical-OP's choice of MPLAB+XC8 is still bearable. Again, the forums feels a bit unmoderated at times. On the other hand, I also hang out on a Dutch IT/tech-nerd site which are very strict about off-topic posting, but they are also very strict on "misinformation". However, who/what is information is led to be judged by the average joe, which only confirms the Dunning-Kruger curve, and IMO this in turn facilitates echo chambers by marking individual comment(trees) as "BS". It leads to a lot of unfair moderation as anyone can vote(just like Reddit), and so, the first few voters who disagree with someone (or has something personal against it) basically get to pick the sentiment which "mainstream" folks (who just read to agree) will follow blindly. I'm not a fan of that system. So in short, for all intents and purposes of this forum, it works. But with the gained insight that some cynical/bashing posts are better read when you're drunk, so you can forget them ASAP. :-// |
| lezginka_kabardinka:
˙ɹıɐɟɟɐ ǝnbıun ɐ sı ɐıןɐɹʇsnɐ uı sɐɯʇsıɹɥɔ |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on December 27, 2023, 03:08:19 am --- --- Quote from: tggzzz on December 27, 2023, 01:59:03 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on December 26, 2023, 09:41:59 pm ---It guess it comes down to "ownership" of a thread. Should the thread owner have the right to continue going in circles or whatever in their own thread? I think it's probably generally agreed on here (and general forum ettiqutte anywhere) that there are some "rights" that come with being the OP of a thread. We (mods) have actually had many reports over the years from an OP that someone is derailing the thread and can we give them a tap on the shoulder. --- End quote --- No, I don't think anyone owns a thread, any more than one person owns a conversation in a pub. Conversations drift, full stop. And the drifts often reveal interesting subtle points not imagined early in the thread. Note that trolling is a very different issue. --- End quote --- But like I said, if they started the thread then surely they have at least some right to continue going in circles and reassert their position in thier own thread? If others have started another conversation in that thread then IMO they have no right to ask the OP to be banned from their own thread because thet are "disrupting" the new discussion? We actually get this all the time with people asking to split a thread off into a new topic, leaving the existing thread to die on it's own or continue with what it was doing. This forum isn't like a standing room only pub, it effectively has tables that people book to discuss a certain topic. Anyone is welcome to join the table, but if the conversation gets out of hand then I think the person that booked that table has at least some right to ask others who came to the table to stay on topic. Or at the very least not get banned or warned because they want to keep spouting what they booked that table to spout. As a moderator, I for one will give extra priority to the thread starter. So if you report that an OP is talking crap in their own thread, it's going to need to be something fairly extraordinary for me to step in. --- End quote --- Analogies are usually dangerous, since people discuss the analogy rather than the issue. This forum isn't usenet, for better and worse. Mostly better! An OP gently but firmly guiding a thread back to a very specific subject is perfectly reasonable. I've done that on a couple of occasions. It is a group of "equal" people participating in a conversation. Your "light touch" plus members' comments work very well in 99.9% of the cases. Naturally some things test the boundaries, e.g. 5G cracpkots and the very few who monomanically create very very similar threads about about a particular issue. |
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