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wilfred:

--- Quote from: spork on December 28, 2023, 08:42:18 am ---Yes, but it's only a simulation to the fool that made it.  To us it's simply "the universe".

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As far as the Earth is concerned I thought it was created for a race of superintelligent pan-dimensional beings that humans perceived as a pair of white mice. As for the Universe you'll have to convince me it wasn't created by the Great Green Arkleseizure.

watchmaker:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on December 28, 2023, 01:54:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on December 27, 2023, 11:15:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on December 27, 2023, 12:22:26 pm ---Awkward question: should someone be allowed to continue beligerantly encouraging other people (especially beginners) to do things that are generally acknowledged to be dangerous?

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We have a specifc rule about safety for that very reason. It's only been used once or twice, but it's there.
Everyone's level of "dangerous" is different. I famously say that anything over 12VDC scares the shit out of me. Then you have Electroboom and Photonic Induction.

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A 12V car battery scares me in the wrong circumstances: drop metal across that and see how much disappears as vapour and blobs. Metal bracelets and necklaces are verboten :) EDIT: 2n3055 mentioned another classic: wrenches.

OTOH I have secondary school physics equipment where there is 230-400V (controlled by front panel potentiometer) on an exposed terminal. Touching that terminal with a finger causes the dekatron counters to spin :) It has a 5Mohm resistor in series, which is required so that a Geiger-Muller tube discharge generates a pulse, which is counted.

The particular problem encountered here is people telling beginners that floating a scope is OK, and that traditional scope probes are OK when connected to the mains. They never add the necessary pre-conditions, and - disgracefully IMHO - often belittle or deny them.

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This is my point about having a vetted sticky that provides the essential information about how to be safe while you learn.  I was taught in one of those setups in the 1960s.  The instructor was present and taught safety at every new entry point.  Students were removed from the lab if they were careless for whatever reason (fine line between carelessness and opportunity to learn).

Today many people are coming from PC based devices to a true bench environment and have no idea what the costs can be.  To use the chainsaw analogy again:  People who buy chainsaws after a hurricane and think because they watched AxeMen or some variant they know what they are doing (in flip flops no less).

No, not everyone will read it, but it then becomes a simple link when such questions are asked.

Dave has videos that hit many of these aspects, but it might be useful if there was one self contained video or playlist.

Regards,

Dewey

RJSV:
I noticed this topic is a 'Fast Mover', not sure if maybe there is a web site term for that kind of topic ?

   At any rate any response I've had for EPAIII for example gets old and with many other newer responders so sorry if my comments are dated, somewhat (it's only a matter of some minutes).

   My comment, RE: Antivax'er labels put on people:
   Got the usual seasonal FLU SHOT, first off it made my shoulder muscle really sore!  But now, that whole, left arm is weak and sore...the shot was in September...more than 3 months should have been sufficient for the arm muscles to recover.
   Thing is, I'm reluctant to bring the subject up, as folks are SOOO propagandized these days, (it's like a kindergarten play-pen out there these days).  I'll be labeled as an anti-vaxxing etc.etc.etc. with about 40 'slanderous' fictional labels, like racist etc.etc.etc.

   Powerful politician (you'd rec the name) using terms like 'mis-dis-information' a humourous yet pathetic symptom, of the modern stereotype Really Smart Dumb-ass ...prosecutor, doctor, Governor.

   So I'm intimidated.  Not by some individual, but I'd just rather skip the accusations; 'Anti-vax' etc. etc.  Many folks like me have gone underground these days.

   The News is saying that it's a Social Virus type affliction...then they flash a 'CoronaVirus' looking round foam thingy, to make their point.
So clever; that foam thingy, lifted straight out of the 'Covid19' images folder.

I usually SKIP the seasonal shots, altogether

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: RJSV on December 28, 2023, 06:58:20 pm ---I noticed this topic is a 'Fast Mover', not sure if maybe there is a web site term for that kind of topic ?

   At any rate any response I've had for EPAIII for example gets old and with many other newer responders so sorry if my comments are dated, somewhat (it's only a matter of some minutes).

   My comment, RE: Antivax'er labels put on people:
   Got the usual seasonal FLU SHOT, first off it made my shoulder muscle really sore!  But now, that whole, left arm is weak and sore...the shot was in September...more than 3 months should have been sufficient for the arm muscles to recover.
   Thing is, I'm reluctant to bring the subject up, as folks are SOOO propagandized these days, (it's like a kindergarten play-pen out there these days).  I'll be labeled as an anti-vaxxing etc.etc.etc. with about 40 'slanderous' fictional labels, like racist etc.etc.etc.

   Powerful politician (you'd rec the name) using terms like 'mis-dis-information' a humourous yet pathetic symptom, of the modern stereotype Really Smart Dumb-ass ...prosecutor, doctor, Governor.

   So I'm intimidated.  Not by some individual, but I'd just rather skip the accusations; 'Anti-vax' etc. etc.  Many folks like me have gone underground these days.

   The News is saying that it's a Social Virus type affliction...then they flash a 'CoronaVirus' looking round foam thingy, to make their point.
So clever; that foam thingy, lifted straight out of the 'Covid19' images folder.

I usually SKIP the seasonal shots, altogether

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Que? What on earth has that word salad got to do with this thread? Is it intended to raise the question of what to do when someone tries to derail a thread?

On second thoughts, please don't tell us.

MK14:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on December 28, 2023, 07:26:46 pm ---Que? What on earth has that word salad got to do with this thread? Is it intended to raise the question of what to do when someone tries to derail a thread?

On second thoughts, please don't tell us.

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It seems to make a reasonable amount of sense, me.  But I'm not 100% sure, I have correctly understood what was said.  Also, I can understand, why it might not make sense, to everyone.

What I think they are saying, is that these days.  It is NOT just a problem of saying something, which might be *WRONG*, technically speaking, on the forum, or while speaking to people.
But also there is a risk, of being labeled, with some of those modern terms, such as audiophile, free energy nut, anti-vaxer, anti-5g nut job, flat-earther etc.

Just for expressing your scientific comments.

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