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| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Brumby on December 26, 2023, 11:17:37 am ---Your prerogative. He'll remain on my "Don't waste your breath" list. Why? He's either: 1. A troll who gets their kicks watching others run around trying to explain - where he couldn't care less about the facts. or 2. A classic Dunning-Kruger candidate who just cannot see where their logic is flawed - and refuses to even concede that possibility. --- End quote --- That's the thing. Is "trolling" on a thread they started actually trolling? Who's is it hurting if they get their jollies discussing physics or other technical details in circles and refuse to admit they are "wrong"? If you don't think you are getting through to someone who asked a question, then just don't reply any more. There are countless legit electronics threads on here I could put under the same catgeory. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: 5U4GB on December 26, 2023, 12:25:48 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on December 26, 2023, 05:40:34 am ---Obviously we don't just ban for talking about physics like we have here, we even let wacy free energy people discuss stuff on the forum if they are aren't otherwise creating trouble and generating user reports. --- End quote --- It's good to have a policy like this. One of the major physics forums has an annoying policy of an absolute ban on free-energy discussions, including ones like "Can someone explain to me why this alleged free-energy device doesn't do what it claims?". This is really annoying because it's one of the few forums that has people qualified to explain where the hole in the argument is, everywhere else it's just people guessing. --- End quote --- If we had a policy like that then we'd have the ban everyone involved in the Electroboom / Walter Lewin discussion for example. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/does-kirchhoffs-law-hold-disagreeing-with-a-master/ |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: IanB on December 26, 2023, 11:53:16 am --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on December 26, 2023, 11:03:30 am ---FYI, after discussion we have agreed to reinstate the Electrodacus account. The Dacian account will remian banned as we generally don't allow multiple accounts as a rule. --- End quote --- I would be good if this reinstatement could be conditional on not trying to discuss "direct downwind" or any related topics in any shape or form. It was relentless trolling in this area that provoked the original ban. --- End quote --- But he started the thread. How do you troll in your own thread? No one is obligated to reply to or continue discussion in a thread. It would be different if say someone came into an existing established thread and just ruined it by trolling. It guess it comes down to "ownership" of a thread. Should the thread owner have the right to continue going in circles or whatever in their own thread? I think it's probably generally agreed on here (and general forum ettiqutte anywhere) that there are some "rights" that come with being the OP of a thread. We (mods) have actually had many reports over the years from an OP that someone is derailing the thread and can we give them a tap on the shoulder. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: spork on December 26, 2023, 09:46:20 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on December 26, 2023, 09:30:39 pm ---Who's is it hurting if they get their jollies discussing physics or other technical details in circles and refuse to admit they are "wrong"? --- End quote --- "Wrong" is a real thing. No quotes required. --- End quote --- Wrong is also, in many cases, only wrong until it's not, or comes under question, or you are making a subtle technical point etc. And even if someone is dead set demonstrably wrong, full stop, if they asked the question in a new thread and refuse to admit they are wrong, should they be banned? If so, why? |
| IanB:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on December 26, 2023, 09:41:59 pm ---But he started the thread. How do you troll in your own thread? No one is obligated to reply to or continue discussion in a thread. It would be different if say someone came into an existing established thread and just ruined it by trolling. --- End quote --- It's fair enough that he started later threads, but the first thread, he didn't start (as I recall). He came into that thread later, and when people got tired of it and told him to go away, he then started other threads. It would be great if people would simply ignore the new threads and stop feeding them, but it seems hard for that to happen. Maybe people will do better at ignoring them this time around. |
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