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Cerebus:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on January 07, 2022, 07:53:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: barycentric on January 05, 2022, 07:17:52 am ---Could someone explain it to me? Pretend there's a six-paragraph prompt with supporting details, brainstorm cloud seeds etc. below. :box:


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I think the simplest way to think about it is: increased capacity.

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Truthfully I don't think I could explain why 5G is a good idea/necessary.

Sure, it comes with some definite, solid technical improvements and advantages. But, and it's a big but, is that it is also driven by political and personal forces that have nothing to do with whether it's a good idea/necessary/justified. I've seen politicians of all stripes from all sorts of countries blathering on about how their country must have 5G and must be the leading force in 5G while having no clue what 5G is, or indeed the intellect to differentiate between an elbow and an arse. On the professional side every waste-of-space manager in telecoms from the boards of Fortune 500 companies down to the lowest line manager wants '5G' on their CV/resumé and will make decisions to facilitate that regardless of the merits of 5G itself.

Way too much marketing wank, way too much 'new shiny', way too much 'if they're having it, we want it too' and way too little proper justification for tearing up existing infrastructure and functionally obsoleting whole ranges of consumer devices. I'm not saying that there aren't justifications, just that you don't hear a cogent case being made for them.

wraper:

--- Quote from: Algoma on January 07, 2022, 08:38:24 pm ---Mobile data here in Canada is such a sad situation. Sure we have all the technology, features and services, but not the competition.

Data plans remain well overpriced and 5G services simply allows them to exceed the limit within seconds of turning on your device each month.

Cost / GB in one chart.. 5G
https://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/canadas-mobile-data-prices-vs-the-world-in-one-chart-pic/

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You may notice that Latvia is on the least abusive end of the chart. Uncapped 4G is not that expensive at all. Cheapest 5G internet (dedicated, without a phone number) is EUR 19/month with 12 month contract, EUR 24/month with not time limited contract. That includes 5G router which by itself costs about EUR 500 . Another operator offers is EUR 13/month without a 5G router included, or EUR9/month if you have 2 phone numbers with them. + EUR 10/month if they give you the router. All have uncapped data.

Sal Ammoniac:

--- Quote from: Bassman59 on January 07, 2022, 07:44:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: Sal Ammoniac on January 05, 2022, 09:14:24 pm ---Those bastards at AT&T here in the States slapped the label "5GE" on an older technology leading the naïve to believe they were getting real 5G. They weren't...

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They did that with 4G/LTE, too.

Also: LTE = "long term evolution towards 4G." They never bothered with implementing what they thought would be a "4G" network.

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I thought 4G LTE was a Verizon thing, as explained here: https://www.verizon.com/about/news/what-4g-lte-and-why-it-matters

It would not surprise me, however, if AT&T did something similar back at the dawn of the 4G era.

IanB:

--- Quote from: Sal Ammoniac on January 07, 2022, 10:36:09 pm ---I thought 4G LTE was a Verizon thing, as explained here: https://www.verizon.com/about/news/what-4g-lte-and-why-it-matters

It would not surprise me, however, if AT&T did something similar back at the dawn of the 4G era.

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I had an older (pre 5G) AT&T phone that always displayed LTE, but my newer AT&T phone without a 5G plan shows 5GE.

nali:
There's another aspect to 5G which doesn't seem to make the headlines which is high accuracy location services with 1m or better claimed accuracy. I know that one area of interest is personal navigation for the blind where 10m GPS doesn't really cut it.

https://www.ericsson.com/en/blog/2020/12/5g-positioning--what-you-need-to-know

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