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thm_w:
--- Code: ---Network Type Download Speed Upload Speed
4G LTE 150Mbps 50Mbps
4G LTE-Advanced 300Mbps 150Mbps
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Most phones support the LTE-A as well, just looks like networks were slow at implementing it, or never implemented it.
tooki:
--- Quote from: IanB on January 27, 2022, 03:38:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: tooki on January 27, 2022, 11:35:53 am ---Inside my apartment, with only 2 bars of signal on my iPhone SE (2020), which does not support 5G, I just tested my LTE at 87Mbps down, 47Mbps up. 140 down is eminently possible with a stronger signal.
The upshot is, LTE done right performs very, very well. Unfortunately in your case, the US is, on average, pretty bad at cellular. :/ (I’ve often described cellular in USA as being somewhat third-world, but the analogy breaks down when one realizes that many third world countries actually do cellular quite well, often relying on it exclusively, with areas having never gotten landline service to begin with!)
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Interesting. On my other phone with a "5GE" plan I just measured 155 down, 12.6 up. So I guess the phone hardware plays a part, as well as the network.
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A huge part. LTE and 5G modems vary significantly in their capabilities, supported bands, etc.
--- Quote from: IanB on January 27, 2022, 03:38:23 pm ---I believe "5GE" is LTE, renamed.
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Yeah that’s just AT&T’s marketing horseshit. (Which is that much more irritating insofar as LTE, especially LTE-A, has nothing to hide and performs very, very well if done right.)
tooki:
--- Quote from: thm_w on January 28, 2022, 01:11:55 am ---
--- Code: ---Network Type Download Speed Upload Speed
4G LTE 150Mbps 50Mbps
4G LTE-Advanced 300Mbps 150Mbps
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Most phones support the LTE-A as well, just looks like networks were slow at implementing it, or never implemented it.
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As of two years ago, half of all LTE networks worldwide already supported LTE-A. I don’t think that’s too shabby.
hagster:
5G can sustain those high data rates to lots of users simultaneously. If you happen to be close to a 4G base station in a location with relatively few users you will get great performance. But imagine being in a football stadium with 100k other users.
Is it worth paying a premium for? Probably not for most people, but if they can get a good bunch of early adopters to pay extra to pay for the technology they will.
Apparently latency is also a big thing for 5G. Gamers would appreciate that in locations where they can't get a wired connection.
Vtile:
--- Quote from: rob77 on January 05, 2022, 08:12:15 am ---
--- Quote from: EPAIII on January 05, 2022, 08:03:36 am ---Actually I think it is about serving more customers. More customers = more bills. And more bills = more money.
The faster thing is just a way of accomplishing that.
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nope, it's the increasing data volume... higher resolution of pictures,videos. more data on web sites.. that's the reason why higher speeds are needed.
in 1993 i could get along with a 14400baud modem.. that's little over 1kByte/s... nowadays 10Mbit/s(~1Mbyte/s), approx 1000 times faster is considered kind of slow.
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It is gone just ridiculuous, basic web page needs these days a huge computer to even load. I did try to use RaspberryZero a year ago for a web browsing and without any luck, even something like basic dry information portals like news papers etc. are so poorly done and optimised that you just can not. No wonder we are running out of power (sarcasm kind of). It seems every ie. picture optimisation technique is thrown out of window. I wonder when I did last time see interlaced jpg or png file on web, or color palette optimisation we keenly used in the late 90s yearly 00. Same with ie. Python applications everywhere on linux. Don't burn me Python is nice, but not outside small POC and scientific apps.
5G is needed for future dreams, advertisement of increased speed, 6-dimensional 8K porn and mind control in orwellian society. 'Roll eyes'
Panem et circenses.
It is also somewhat more less expensive way to provide (note on paper, they will over book and not deliver as always) 'fiber speed' without the cost of real fiber. While indeed the network itself will need more or equivalent amount of backplane fiber optic cables than what it would be needed to get it every house.
The health issues related is troubling me since it is not proven that a hotspot field due erratic reflection and unplanned changes will not occur, but technology have always collateral damage for creater good (what ever it is).
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