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tooki:

--- Quote from: Vtile on January 30, 2022, 10:30:48 pm ---
--- Quote from: rob77 on January 05, 2022, 08:12:15 am ---
--- Quote from: EPAIII on January 05, 2022, 08:03:36 am ---Actually I think it is about serving more customers. More customers = more bills. And more bills = more money.

The faster thing is just a way of accomplishing that.

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nope, it's the increasing data volume... higher resolution of pictures,videos. more data on web  sites.. that's the reason why higher speeds are needed.

in 1993 i could get along with a 14400baud modem.. that's little over 1kByte/s... nowadays 10Mbit/s(~1Mbyte/s), approx 1000 times faster is considered kind of slow.

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It is gone just ridiculuous, basic web page needs these days a huge computer to even load. I did try to use RaspberryZero a year ago for a web browsing and without any luck, even something like basic dry information portals like news papers etc. are so poorly done and optimised that you just can not. No wonder we are running out of power (sarcasm kind of). It seems every ie. picture optimisation technique is thrown out of window. I wonder when I did last time see interlaced jpg or png file on web, or color palette optimisation we keenly used in the late 90s yearly 00. Same with ie. Python applications everywhere on linux. Don't burn me Python is nice, but not outside small POC and scientific apps.

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The amount of garbage JavaScript used on modern sites (mostly for ads, tracking, etc) is obscene. The actual file sizes, even of images, barely matter nowadays. But tons of JavaScript, much of which is loaded by other JavaScript as it runs, means page loading is delayed by the speed of code execution and the subsequent server responses.
It’s insane how big the difference is when using an ad blocker on typical sites like news sites: page loads go from 10 seconds to 1 second, commonly.
daqq:

--- Quote ---It’s insane how big the difference is when using an ad blocker on typical sites like news sites: page loads go from 10 seconds to 1 second, commonly.
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Included is a screenshot from a Slovakian news site. The highlighted red area is the actual text. Okay, there's one more line of the text at the bottom. The rest is just ads. Moving ads.
Vtile:
Indeed, it is kind of sad that one could run something like Lazarus (~1gb) full RAD environment and work with it, but can not use internet browser to read the fucking manual.  :palm: |O  :-DD
SiliconWizard:

--- Quote from: hagster on January 29, 2022, 06:24:28 pm ---5G can sustain those high data rates to lots of users simultaneously.

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Uh, yeah. Except that comparing 5G to older tech using the same usage profiles is not relevant. It's highly likely that 5G will make data consumption "explode" compared to 4G and older - thus the overall user experience, when "lots of users" are using it, is probably going to be pretty similar.

It's like the computer hardware vs. software thing. The more powerful hardware is, the more bloated software becomes.

So what we can reasonably say is that 5G will make wireless data consumption increase a lot. Will it make it better from the average user's experience POV? Probably only at the very beginning.
Bud:
Most of that lot of users is sitting at nome behind walls unpenetrable to 5G.
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