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cortex_m0:

--- Quote from: james_s on December 09, 2021, 06:44:22 am ---That's a false comparison, how can you say it was a success when they removed it from all of their flagship models and people still kept buying the phones?
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Because people kept buying the phones, and Apple did not back-track, and its competitors followed their lead.


--- Quote from: james_s on December 09, 2021, 06:44:22 am ---There is no really good mobile phone platform on the market, it is not a matter of choosing the one I like best, I had to choose the one I hate least, and I have every right to complain about it, and I find corporate apologists and fanbois with their smug and dismissive attitudes to be some of the most irritating people on the planet.

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You have every right to complain. Just recognize that what is preferred by you individually and what is preferred by the broad market are not necessarily linked.

PlainName:

--- Quote ---Because people kept buying the phones
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"You can buy this car in any color you like so long as it's black"

"Instead of walking, people buy our cars so clearly people want black cars"

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: cortex_m0 on December 09, 2021, 03:11:22 am ---[...]
At the time the iPhone eliminated the headphone jack, more than two-thirds of respondents to a web survey said they thought Apple removing the headphone jack was a mistake. I think it is clear now that their move was not a loser in the market place.
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The fact that people are buying the gimped phones isn't evidence that they agreed with the de-contenting of the product.  Removing the headphone jack would not stop consumers buying phones - they are just too useful overall to reject completely for the sake of an annoyance, right?   Even hardcore headphone jack fans like me would not stop buying phones...

The survey result is probably the honest answer as to what consumers think - the fact that they still buy the phones is simply because really, we no longer have a choice these days...   we have to have a phone.

So what do consumers do, then?  If I can't get a phone with the features I want, my personal reaction is to keep older models that do have those features as long as possible.  Once I can't do that any longer, I will buy one of the de-contented crappy new phones, but it will be the cheapest model that does the job, because the flagship phones would no longer be a flagship to me...  more like a plastic bathtub with a pair of oars than a flagship - and I am not going to pay flagship prices for a plastic bathtub with oars, right?  :D
 
For the money saved with a cheaper phone, I can buy a dedicated FLAC player with a high end DAC that does have a headphone jack.  This has the side benefit that the surveillance capitalists are no longer able to track everything I choose to listen to....    so, maybe they have scored a bit of an own goal there, lol!  :D

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: cortex_m0 on December 09, 2021, 12:58:00 pm ---[...]
You have every right to complain. Just recognize that what is preferred by you individually and what is preferred by the broad market are not necessarily linked.

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The proposition that the removal of the headphone jack was market-driven is entirely fallacious.   You even quoted a survey yourself that said 75% of consumers disagreed with it?

"Lumping it" is not the same as "liking it"...

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: ogden on December 09, 2021, 06:13:43 am ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 08, 2021, 11:55:36 pm ---I hope the EU eventually investigates the "coincidence" that all the manufacturers drop replaceable batteries, ports, and SD cards from flagship models all at the same time.

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Right. Add to your list disappeared features and peripherals all over the place. Why there is no built-in CD-RW drives anymore in the laptops, casette players in the cars? Big tech is robbing consumers! :-DD

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I have no problem with removing peripherals and features that most people do not use.   Think of IEEE interfaces, for example.   Let's take them out of all the T&M equipment, the mass market would totally agree with you that they are useless!  :D

It seems to me that most people that listened to music with their phones used headphone jacks...   ?      Who actually asked for it to be "upgraded"?   Did you??

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