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SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: james_s on December 09, 2021, 10:35:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: cortex_m0 on December 09, 2021, 12:58:00 pm ---Because people kept buying the phones, and Apple did not back-track, and its competitors followed their lead.

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That's meaningless, it tells you absolutely nothing due to the fact that virtually everyone needs a phone, and everyone copies pretty much whatever Apple does. Of course people are still buying the phones, because they have no other real choice. In order to have any meaningful data Apple would have to offer two very similar phones, one with a headphone jack and one without, and then if the one without sold better you could say it was a sound business decision. Why would anyone buy a phone without a headphone jack if they had a choice? What real advantage does not having it bring? You don't have to use it if it's there.

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AirPods (wireless earphones) now make up a significant percentage of Apple profits...   do we need to look any further to figure out why the headphone jack had to go?  :D
cortex_m0:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 09, 2021, 02:02:52 pm ---The proposition that the removal of the headphone jack was market-driven is entirely fallacious.   You even quoted a survey yourself that said 75% of consumers disagreed with it?

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Yes, I did. And obviously the respondents to that survey have since changed their minds, because nowhere close to 75% refused to buy an iPhone 7 and above.
helius:
"% of people refused to buy X" is a strange syntax and a non-verifiable factoid.
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: cortex_m0 on December 10, 2021, 12:48:49 am ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 09, 2021, 02:02:52 pm ---The proposition that the removal of the headphone jack was market-driven is entirely fallacious.   You even quoted a survey yourself that said 75% of consumers disagreed with it?

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Yes, I did. And obviously the respondents to that survey have since changed their minds, because nowhere close to 75% refused to buy an iPhone 7 and above.

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I would go further than that...  Many bought the Airpods, helping Apple's wearables division grow to nearly 10% of Apple's revenue.  Now you are going to tell us that this had nothing to do with Apple's decision making process, right?   :horse:

PlainName:

--- Quote from: cortex_m0 on December 10, 2021, 12:48:49 am ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 09, 2021, 02:02:52 pm ---The proposition that the removal of the headphone jack was market-driven is entirely fallacious.   You even quoted a survey yourself that said 75% of consumers disagreed with it?

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Yes, I did. And obviously the respondents to that survey have since changed their minds, because nowhere close to 75% refused to buy an iPhone 7 and above.

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Just shows how you misunderstood even the stuff you wrote! What you actually said was:


--- Quote ---At the time the iPhone eliminated the headphone jack, more than two-thirds of respondents to a web survey said they thought Apple removing the headphone jack was a mistake.
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Nothing there about anyone not buying anything. All they said was that they thought it was a mistake. Their preference was thus to retain the feature. No-one threatened not to buy the phone if it was removed, though - that's something you made up yourself.
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