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What's the real reason that laptop batteries are made not-accessible?

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SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Miyuki on December 10, 2021, 08:45:43 am ---[...]
And you can buy noname wireless earbuds for a single-digit price. They are manufactured in huge numbers because people want them.

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I don't know for a fact because I haven't looked, but I would be very surprised if the Apple wireless earbuds used an open protocol that allows competing products to be made...

Miyuki:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 10, 2021, 01:58:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: Miyuki on December 10, 2021, 08:45:43 am ---[...]
And you can buy noname wireless earbuds for a single-digit price. They are manufactured in huge numbers because people want them.

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I don't know for a fact because I haven't looked, but I would be very surprised if the Apple wireless earbuds used an open protocol that allows competing products to be made...

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They are Bluetooth compatible audio device
They work with any device and the same way you can use any Bluetooth earbuds with an apple phone

SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Miyuki on December 10, 2021, 04:19:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 10, 2021, 01:58:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: Miyuki on December 10, 2021, 08:45:43 am ---[...]
And you can buy noname wireless earbuds for a single-digit price. They are manufactured in huge numbers because people want them.

--- End quote ---

I don't know for a fact because I haven't looked, but I would be very surprised if the Apple wireless earbuds used an open protocol that allows competing products to be made...

--- End quote ---
They are Bluetooth compatible audio device
They work with any device and the same way you can use any Bluetooth earbuds with an apple phone

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Fair enough.

I did stumble on the paragraph below, a propos the whole question of sealed batteries, which also affects Airpods, apparently:

"The lithium-ion batteries in AirPods can see significant degradation over time, with two-year-old sets lasting for less than half of the advertised five hours. Apple has a program to service batteries and purchase replacement individual AirPods and charging cases. The replacement of one or both AirPods or the charging case has a lower price with AppleCare+ than without. Apple offers battery servicing for free with AppleCare+ and for a fee without. However, this is just a replacement service, as AirPods batteries cannot be removed."

james_s:

--- Quote from: NiHaoMike on December 10, 2021, 01:25:55 pm ---Every smartphone I'm aware of still supports wired audio output, just in digital form.

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Maybe you can show me how to plug headphones or an external amplifier into a current generation iPhone while it's charging because I can only seem to find one single connector that can be used for one thing or the other.

The point remains that I can't plug in any of my existing headphones with the new ones, and I can do so with the older one I have, so the new models have taken away useful functionality while offering nothing to me in return for that loss of functionality and convenience.

james_s:

--- Quote from: Miyuki on December 10, 2021, 08:45:43 am ---But it is dozens of people vs millions who do not need it.

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Dozens of people *THAT I PERSONALLY KNOW/INTERACT WITH*, are you saying that you personally know millions of people who think removing it is an improvement? I don't care if not everyone needs it, if they don't need it they don't have to use it, what harm does it cause by being there? A study was quoted earlier saying fully 2/3 of consumers would prefer to have it, and you are still trying to suggest that a majority not only don't need it, but would prefer to not have it? Millions of people don't need it, even more millions would prefer to have it. I swear, the almighty Apple could remove any feature they wanted and cripple their devices in any way imaginable and a significant number of people would gush about what a great improvement it is. It's bizarre to me the way some people seem to get so personally invested in a company and will endlessly apologize for them and refuse to acknowledge stupid/irritating design decisions.

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