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What's the real reason that laptop batteries are made not-accessible?
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cortex_m0:

--- Quote from: james_s on December 03, 2021, 04:20:08 am ---That is not planned obsolescence, that is cost engineering.
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Planned obsolescence is a special case of cost engineering.


--- Quote from: james_s on December 03, 2021, 04:20:08 am ---Planned obsolescence is engineering that has no other function than to deliberately limit lifespan, for example a timer that bricks something after a specified number of uses,

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No, that is fraud (unless it is advertised as being time limited).


--- Quote --- or a system that is tied to a remote server for no reason than to be able to disable it.
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No, that's a time-limited license. So long as I can continue paying the subscription fee to keep using my gizmo, nothing is being made obsolete.


--- Quote from: james_s on December 03, 2021, 04:20:08 am ---They're making them as cheap as they can while still lasting long enough.

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I'd consider this a concise definition of planned obsolescence.  :clap:
ogden:

--- Quote from: Stray Electron on December 03, 2021, 12:41:01 am ---  To answer the OP's question and not speculate as most here are doing; part of the reason for not making batteries accessible is planned obsolescence pure and simple.

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Hmmm... For some unknown reason no company can come-up with phone having user-replaceable battery to dominate market? Most likely it's because Lizard People are programming whole humanity through chemtrails to buy products manufactured in their factories and earth obviously is flat?  :popcorn:
IanB:

--- Quote from: cortex_m0 on December 03, 2021, 04:37:19 am ---
--- Quote from: james_s on December 03, 2021, 04:20:08 am ---Planned obsolescence is engineering that has no other function than to deliberately limit lifespan, for example a timer that bricks something after a specified number of uses,

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No, that is fraud (unless it is advertised as being time limited).

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There are a many users of various inkjet printers and multi-function devices that would like a word with you.

We have ink cartridges that stop working after a certain number of hours, whether they still contain ink or not.

We have scanners that stop working unless full ink cartridges are installed.

We even have printers that stop working after a certain number of hours because "the waste ink sump is full".

I quickly stopped using an inkjet printer I owned when every time I switched it on it would squirt large amounts of valuable ink into the "head cleaning sump" before being ready for use. I paid for that ink. Why is the printer deliberately wasting it?
cgroen:

--- Quote from: IanB on December 03, 2021, 06:34:11 am ---.
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Why is the printer deliberately wasting it?
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To get you to buy more ink  >:D
(I abandoned ink printers too, nothing beats a laser in "cost pr sheet" )
ogden:

--- Quote from: cgroen on December 03, 2021, 08:45:52 am ---
--- Quote from: IanB on December 03, 2021, 06:34:11 am ---Why is the printer deliberately wasting it?

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To get you to buy more ink  >:D
(I abandoned ink printers too, nothing beats a laser in "cost pr sheet" )

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Let me guess - you abandoned color inkjet for monochrome laser printer and call it achievement? For those who power-on their printer one page per week no matter what color it is, most likely cheap laser printer is best choice. Others would want to do their decision wisely. FYI volume printing is clearly inkjet business.
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