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General => General Technical Chat => Topic started by: badSCR on January 31, 2010, 05:07:02 pm
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PIC Programmer: PICkit2
Oscilloscope: B&K precision 2540
USB Logic analyzer: USBee SX
PowerSupply: Old Computer ATX PSU, +5v 15amp, +12v 6amp, -12v 0.3 amp, -5v 0.3 amp
DMM: Some Cheap meter from lowes.
DMM: Some Cheap meter from radio-shack.
Soldering irons: Cheap ESD 15Watt, Cheap 30Wat, And a ECG 45watt De-soldering iron
Breadboard: about 5000 contacts
And a small collection of parts.
The bench is a bit of a mess.
The room is about 8feet by 10feet, and this room is my bed room, I sleep over-top of the work-bench.
I live in a single wide mobile home.
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https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=129.0
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Oh man, my current "workspace" would make some interesting photography..... >.< I don't think you really want to see though.
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Those look like christmas lights on your bench. I can't fit my lights on my bench, I have 300 boxes of minis that I did not get up for christmas this year.
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yes, they are christmas lights, there are 100 boxes of 100 count minis (75% off ;D); And a 16 channel light-o-rama controller. Not shore if I want to go to a 32+ channel light-o-rama controller system, yet.
It's worse under the bench, Storage is an issue for me. Even the spare bath tube has stuff in it.
My bed is on top, it is like a bunk-bed. Actual work space is 2feet by 7feet.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=129.0
Do I need to move this thread?
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I was just letting you know where some of the other workbench pics were in case you hadn't seem 'em'
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I have 168 channels of DIY boards. I had 120 in use this past Christmas. And I have 2 non-dimmable 64 channel boards that I had retired. Nice to see another computer christmaser.
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I posted once before, but finally got rid of the Harbor Freight multimeter and upgraded to a Fluke. What a meter!
The Table saw is not really electronics related, but it does use electricity! I built the table around the saw with dust collection router table built in.
More on theme is the CNC router built from plans from http://www.solsylva.com/. I modified the 24X48 table so it sits on a torsion box and can make bit changes while sitting down. I attached a sample pcb cut from the CNC router. I built that a couple years ago to do big stuff like machining guitar bodies for example, but I'm shocked that it can do trace cuts down to about 15 mil. The example board is a PIC16F886 board with ICSP programming pins.
Under the O-scope is my Hantek arbitrary function generator.
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Pics Part 2
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Pics Part 3
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Sorry Last Part
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Under the O-scope is my Hantek arbitrary function generator.
Is that the 3x25? I am considering to throw my Rigol function generator out, due to lack of support from Rigol, and replace it with a cheap Hantek 3x25. How satisfied are you with the Hantek (taking its low cost into account)?
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Very nice Veramacor!
Dave.
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WOW,
That is nice; very cool, Veramacor
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hello everyone,
My name is Paul from kansas city mo usa.
I build and repair vacuum tube audio gear as a side home business and also work as an electrician for the past 16 yrs.
I love your blogs dave and i thought i would post my workbench in my home lab where i build and tinker with my high voltage toys.
(http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/texasrockguy/Repair%20shop/IMG_0088.jpg)
a few more links to more pics of some of my favorite vintage gear
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/texasrockguy/Repair%20shop/IMG_0085.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/texasrockguy/Repair%20shop/IMG_0090.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/texasrockguy/Repair%20shop/IMG_0093.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/texasrockguy/Repair%20shop/IMG_0094.jpg
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q234/texasrockguy/Repair%20shop/IMG_0091-1.jpg
thanks for looking!
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Some nice setups, so neat Veramacor.
you guys might have seen this workshop before, http://www.users.uswest.net/~kmaxon/page/side/mill100_137.htm
at his house! i emailed him ages ago and asked if i could move in next door. If you haven't seen the site before, its worth poking around
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http://www.users.uswest.net/~kmaxon/page/side/mill100_137.htm
Now thats a bench!
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Under the O-scope is my Hantek arbitrary function generator.
Is that the 3x25? I am considering to throw my Rigol function generator out, due to lack of support from Rigol, and replace it with a cheap Hantek 3x25. How satisfied are you with the Hantek (taking its low cost into account)?
That is indeed a DS3X25. It works awesome. You do need a computer to set the wave generation up, that is the only drawback. If you have a computer in the lab thats not a big deal though. I bought it mainly for the space I save, and it comes with some decent software. The voltage range is +- 3.5 Volts and 25MHz limit is way more than I need.
I used it the other day to a zero in a transducer's optimum ultrasonic frequency (25.4Khz). AllElectronics are selling an ultrasonic transducer for a $1 a piece for quantities of 10 or more -
http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/XDR-24/ULTRASONIC-TRANSDUCER/-/1.html
- great for robotics or other ranging projects. There isn't a datasheet available! I did get an idea of the range from comments posted online with the product.
Attached is my first attempt at robotics using the transducers BTW. I call it an 'Altdroid', LOL
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http://www.users.uswest.net/~kmaxon/page/side/mill100_137.htm
:o Speachless.
What does he do for a living.
Does he work from home?
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So that's what my shop looked like a few years ago, it didn't really change the last years because of the lack of time, but I got some older audio measurement equipment and parts ;)
(http://4hv.org/e107_files/public/1188843519_510_FT6000_lab_3.jpg)
Besides from that I have a carload of inverter grade 'lytics in the cellar (haven't got round using them but they were cheap!):
(http://sync-hv.de/~tmp/foo/caps3.JPG)
PS: If the images are too big for someone, ping me, I'll make previews!
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[Huge image]
Wow! That's electrolytics porn indeed. Are you planning on doing something with them? Building a tank-grade coil gun, perhaps? ;)
-Twin.
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Oh well, they are only 6000µF 350V so they are not really suitable for coilgunning in large scale. You want big fat energy discharge caps with several kV there.
I've planned to do some railgunning and testing several ETG designs with them but since I've got them I just don't have the time to get the work done.
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how about an oversize PCB board? LOL
A 4'x8' copper clad sheet will do it...
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I've recently completed the conversion of my garage into my new workshop (well completed enough to move in - it's still something of a work in progress). It's a bit of a mess - I just finished getting a prototype working - I've been on it for the last 38 hours and it's 7AM here now.
It's quite a luxury to have a workbench 4m long for just the electronics stuff. I have a separate section at the end of the garage for the mechanical things (mill, lathe, pillar drill, vice, other tools etc.).
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff69/tristand82/Workshop/SPA53103.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff69/tristand82/Workshop/SPA53104.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff69/tristand82/Workshop/SPA53106.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff69/tristand82/Workshop/SPA53107.jpg)
(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff69/tristand82/Workshop/SPA53108.jpg)
Main bits of electronics kit:
Fluke 189
Fluke 112
Fluke 123
Rigol DS1052E (Now 100MHz!)
Pico 3206 PC Scope (200MHz)
Ersa Digital 200A soldering iron (the best I've ever used)
Antex 50W soldering iron
Generic hot air rework station
Various bench PSUs (ranging up to 60V and 30A)
Tektronix THS720A Scope
Signal Generators
Various other multimeters
Fluke i310s 20KHz current clamp
Too many bits of homemade test kit to list
For parts storage I have 40 28 litre containers, 64 16 litre blue bins, 72 0.5 litre wall mounted bins, 300 small drawers and various other containers. They're all numbered and their contents are listed in a spreadsheet. This saves relabeling every time I get more stuff or move things around.
And on the computer front I have a generic middle of the road PC with a pair of 23" monitors. You can never have too much screen real estate!
I hope you've enjoyed the tour!
Tristan
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nice setup Tristan, so how much stock do you own in fluke! :)
i'm onto the kitchen table now doing some kitting after overflowing the small office.
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I must admit I have a soft spot for fluke! I have a fluke calibrator and another scopemeter not pictured above. After the abuse some of my fluke kit has taken without complaining I wouldn't seriously consider buying anything else - at least not for handheld field kit.
I am a freelance electronics design engineer and do a lot of work on industrial, commercial and military kit and the conditions I work in aren't always kind to my tools!
Tristan
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Hello all,
this is my first post in this forum. I'm from Germany and I'd like to show you my lab which consists of two rooms in the basement. One is for electronics development, the other is equipped with a mini lathe, a micro mill and other mechanical tools.
As you can see on the photos I use a lot of old equipment which is still in excellent working condition.
Regards,
Alexander
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Hello all,
this is my first post in this forum. I'm from Germany and I'd like to show you my lab which consists of two rooms in the basement. One is for electronics development, the other is equipped with a mini lathe, a micro mill and other mechanical tools.
As you can see on the photos I use a lot of old equipment which is still in excellent working condition.
Regards,
Alexander
Hi Alexander
Nice lab there. One question, in picture Labor2.jpg, is that an emergency button to disable all your AC power outlets? It looks like one.
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Hi Alexander
Nice lab there. One question, in picture Labor2.jpg, is that an emergency button to disable all your AC power outlets? It looks like one.
Hi Migsantiago,
I have three emergency buttons in my lab, two at the workbench and one next to the door which I also use to disable the power outlets at the workbench when I'm not in the lab. I have three-phased curent in my lab and a sub-distribution which is separated from the rest of the house. The outlets are switched by a three-phase contactor in the sub-distribution. The PC, the lights and the telephone system are connected to a separate circuit with a separate RCD to make sure the lights are still on after the catastrophy on the workbench :)
Regards,
Alexander
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Quite an installation you have there! Have you ever had the need to use one of your emergency buttons? :o
When you say RCD, do you mean a Residual Current Device?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device
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I'm surprised not too many labs have microscope, in fact only one lab on the pictures has it.
How do you solder smd components like 0204 or similar ?
Maybe I'm too old since I need one microscope for smd work. ???
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Quite an installation you have there! Have you ever had the need to use one of your emergency buttons? :o
When you say RCD, do you mean a Residual Current Device?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device
a few weeks ago I had a severe failure in a test setup with a step-down converter with 24V/20amps. I was lucky to find the emergency button quick enough...
RCDs with 30mA threshold are mandatory in Germany for power outlets.
Regards,
Alexander
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I'm surprised not too many labs have microscope, in fact only one lab on the pictures has it.
How do you solder smd components like 0204 or similar ?
Maybe I'm too old since I need one microscope for smd work. ???
I may be in the market for one of those boom mounted stereo microscopes in the next few months...
https://www.nationalmicroscope.com/images/1278ZB.jpg
How dow you like yours?
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That type of mounting is perfect for electronics, you just need to check the zoom capabilities, but pretty much a decent microscope will do the work.
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Oh well, I had just clean up the battlefield,
and I liked to have a picture of it , as clean with everything in order, and correctly placed. .. ;D
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Quite an installation you have there! Have you ever had the need to use one of your emergency buttons? :o
When you say RCD, do you mean a Residual Current Device?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residual-current_device
a few weeks ago I had a severe failure in a test setup with a step-down converter with 24V/20amps. I was lucky to find the emergency button quick enough...
RCDs with 30mA threshold are mandatory in Germany for power outlets.
Regards,
Alexander
In Canada there only required in bathrooms and outdoor outlets. The rest can be simply hooked up to a fuse.
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i like this topic. here is my personal lab. i know its not good. but just would like to show off anyway :)
(http://www.ximplify.com/members/soasystem/20104253153.jpg)
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Nice work shafri :)
There is no contest here , if it was , we would have and a prize . ;D
What we do are just sharing our ideas, If my plan was to surprise you ,
I would had study in door decorations.
And I would had to pay, some one like you , to fix my TV aerial . ;)
By the way, brother you need one wide QC , like an 0.8X
Still the pano shot , proves that you have an Olympus around , or similar .
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Finally I found some one , who kills the English language as I do :D :D :D
The QC is the sort name of converters, additional lens , that can help by adding more zoom ,
and with the wide ones, you can capture more space in small areas, that there is no room to move further back.
Your screen looks nice , still I am a lover of the classic CRT I have an Sony G-420 19" ,
I work with photoshop , and build web sites when I get payed enough..
As about my cave , I have left outside my power tools bench and my office.
The good part is that I have three phases , and I can operate three phases power tools too.
I own even an welding machine , and one system.. translation please... oxygen with acetylene.. :)
Yes I have a pleasurable setup .. and this is what counts more.
But lets all admit , that you can not build anything in just days months or even years,
especially if you are one man show..
It takes time and needs allot patience to build something worthy , oh end cash.. ;D
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i like this topic. here is my personal lab. i know its not good. but just would like to show off anyway :)
(http://www.ximplify.com/members/soasystem/20104253153.jpg)
What you meen its not good?! everybodys workshop is good, I love the look of yours! im just so glad to see so many different ones! mine is tiny 3' foot by 9' foot under my stairs but I love it! :)
Wayne.
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How many pictures of workshops within workshops could we achieve?
(http://)
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You lot have some really nice set-ups... Something to aspire to!
Here's my temporary set-up- I'm probably moving out in a few weeks, but I've had to vacate my room, as the floor is crumbling... So I'm in my Brother's old room, with most of his stuff and all of mine- It's very cramped. My soldering iron has been banished for now, hopefully when I move into my place I'll be able to spread out a bit. Please excuse the paper drifts, I don't actually have anywhere to put that quite yet!
Stuff lying around;
Wishmaker II training centre; breadboard plus power supplies- Very handy! A bit pot of pencils behind it- I like pencils :P
A borrowed 'scope, a Trio CS-1560A. I believe these are a rebadged Kikusui, but I'm not sure. The little guy perched on top is a HP3311A function generator. I can get a bit more than 1 MHz out of it, but the waveshape goes to hell.
BK Precision 2709B- Bought after the $100 shootout. I'm a fan.
Fluke 117- When it's time to go fiddling with mains, this is the meter for it.
PicKit2- I have a series of tutorials I need to go through for this, but I've yet to actually get to the time... Aaargh.
Cheap component drawers: 'Nuff said. Fairly cheap and nasty, but functional.
LED desk lamp- I like the light colour, but it could do with being a bit brighter- Possible mod right there.
1st Gen MacBook- Dual-boots OSX and XP.
Visconti Nautilus (small) the little wooden hutch- That houses some of my older fountain pens.
Desk Caddy; mech. pencils, calculator, fountain pens... Yeah, I'm a stationery nerd.
Old glass inkwell; See above
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I'm surprised not too many labs have microscope, in fact only one lab on the pictures has it.
How do you solder smd components like 0204 or similar ?
I'm smart enough not to use 0402's or smaller on my own home stuff!
Dave.
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well, glad to see this thread is alive again. in fact, currently i've made alot of movements. currently i'm transferring website which has not finished yet :(, i'm moving house but pending due to some renovation, and guess what? i'm going to move the lab too !!! and all the stuffs inside urghhh! when the time comes. so far, my new lab is just on sketch, this is what i think that will suits me to better organize my lab. any suggestions are welcomed :)
ps: the cyan colored line is my current (to be dismissed) lab (just as shown earlier in this thread few months back), so the new lab will have like twice the size of the current one.
i cant wait to move to my "new" lab more than to move to the house itself. haha, funny i guess.
errata: computering bench should be exchanged with printing/reading bench. so i can easily program PIC from computer ("ing") to the ee bench just next to the right.
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Besides from that I have a carload of inverter grade 'lytics in the cellar (haven't got round using them but they were cheap!):
(http://sync-hv.de/~tmp/foo/caps3.JPG)
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Oh well, they are only 6000µF 350V so they are not really suitable for coilgunning in large scale.
Can you say "hybrid conversion"?
http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/parts/148221-capacitor-array-starting-engine-2.html
Based on quick calculations, 200A*12v*1s=2400J
That amount of energy is attainable with just 6 4700uF, 450v capacitors charged to 430v and discharged to 100v. And they'll very likely outlast the car since capacitors do not degrade much when used within specifications.
However, traditional starters are very inefficient (high resistive losses), so the actual energy needed is lower. High voltages reduce resistive losses. Add some more tricks like unload solenoids to deactivate some of the cylinders and electric oil pumps to prime the bearings and the energy needed is even lower.
Where capacitors really excel is regenerative braking. The problem is the sheer size of the capacitor array needed. A 3000lb car going at 45MPH would need almost 3F of 450v capacitors to store all of the energy from regenerative braking. (As a joke, one of my friends would say that's a "Peggy-sized array"!) So the capacitive engine starter is already practical, but not the capacitive regenerative brakes.
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terrifying how many rigols there are in those pictures ;D
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Since this thread has been bumped...
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs149.snc4/36829_10100344969170894_8320204_66400166_6126941_n.jpg)
Business end of this bench is a corner piece the joins two fold out tables. My computer sits left of this photo. Roto bins and drill press sit right of this photo.
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Here is mine as of 8-14-2010
I was repairing a commodore 64 motherboard :>
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Here's mine, pics a bit old, i have since made some new additions (oscilloscope, another smaller vise, some other assorted tools), and tidied it up a bit. This is just a general workshop, i do more then electronics work here and excuse the disarray
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/MTron73/Tube%20Stereo%20Project/th_IMG_2038.jpg) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/MTron73/Tube%20Stereo%20Project/IMG_2038.jpg)(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/MTron73/WorkShop/th_IMG_2009.jpg) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/MTron73/WorkShop/IMG_2009.jpg)(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/MTron73/WorkShop/th_IMG_2008.jpg) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/MTron73/WorkShop/IMG_2008.jpg)(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/MTron73/WorkShop/th_IMG_2007.jpg) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z189/MTron73/WorkShop/IMG_2007.jpg)
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well, glad to see this thread is alive again. in fact, currently i've made alot of movements. currently i'm transferring website which has not finished yet :(, i'm moving house but pending due to some renovation, and guess what? i'm going to move the lab too !!! and all the stuffs inside urghhh! when the time comes. so far, my new lab is just on sketch, this is what i think that will suits me to better organize my lab. any suggestions are welcomed :)
ps: the cyan colored line is my current (to be dismissed) lab (just as shown earlier in this thread few months back), so the new lab will have like twice the size of the current one.
i cant wait to move to my "new" lab more than to move to the house itself. haha, funny i guess.
errata: computering bench should be exchanged with printing/reading bench. so i can easily program PIC from computer ("ing") to the ee bench just next to the right.
Yes, swap the computer bench next to the EEbench, that's important.
A whole bench for printing/reading? I'd dedicate that to a "project in progress" bench.
Dave.
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Yes, swap the computer bench next to the EEbench, that's important.
A whole bench for printing/reading? I'd dedicate that to a "project in progress" bench.
thanx for the advice Dave. "project in progress" will be in the ee bench, wont it? but never thought a dedicated place for "project kiv", so this is the new layout, change the rack arrangement so i can easily move things out (back) of my home (parking lot). the thing is i have 3 printers that i cant rid of and those are not fit in one single bench + pc, so the bench area left is not so comfortable to make any serious work like ee or hobby stuffs.
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(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Mzimf8YgCS0/TFydTwHNvSI/AAAAAAAAA_U/gEJXRiLPrTU/s400/2577%20circuit.JPG)
Only pic I had on hand, was building up an LM2577 regulator circuit to put into my ATX bench supply at the time. That's 56 Volts DC out from 12 Volts DC in. I am a messy one, oh well...
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I am a messy one, oh well...
You and me both; my 'bench' is currently split between the desk in the study, where stuff gets built, and the living room floor where stuff gets fiddled with (because the logic analyser and scope don't really fit on the desk...) I am thinking about sorting out a proper workbench in the garage, once I tidy it out a bit!
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I am a messy one, oh well...
You and me both; my 'bench' is currently split between the desk in the study, where stuff gets built, and the living room floor where stuff gets fiddled
Rhythm, you and me the same. If i put the stuffs like that in living room, my kids will experiment those, not me, and my wife will goes high noise to signal ratio all day long :D .So far i cant get things well organized everytime. When i fiddle with something, it will get real mess so quickly, so i hope the new layout will treat me better.
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I am a messy one, oh well...
You and me both; my 'bench' is currently split between the desk in the study, where stuff gets built, and the living room floor where stuff gets fiddled
Rhythm, you and me the same. If i put the stuffs like that in living room, my kids will experiment those, not me, and my wife will goes high noise to signal ratio all day long :D .So far i cant get things well organized everytime. When i fiddle with something, it will get real mess so quickly, so i hope the new layout will treat me better.
Dude, I hope you don't mind if I quote you, that's awesome. It's good to hear I am not the only messy one out there!
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@MTron: you have lots of heavy stuffs there! things i long dream to own, my lab still never got that far. but not yet, not yet, one day it will be... i hope ;) before i get too old :D
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Dude, I hope you don't mind if I quote you, that's awesome. It's good to hear I am not the only messy one out there!
thats ok. thats why i like to see what other people have in common with me, and all kind of different setups and ideas out there. if i have alot of people/friends in common with me around here in my place, maybe i would not be in EEVBlog! ;)
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Here is mine as of 8-14-2010
I was repairing a commodore 64 motherboard :>
simple and tidy setup, yet great achievement. I never have the capacity to repair a motherboard, just damaging them :D
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I don't do that much electronics these days but for what it's worth, here's my desk/bench
A before and after shot - I was shamed by the tidiness of some workbenches shown in this thread :-[
Most of my work these days is done in the 'workshop' with the lathe and mill.
The device just visible in front of the Rigol is a digital readout I'm working on for the mill
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@MTron: you have lots of heavy stuffs there! things i long dream to own, my lab still never got that far. but not yet, not yet, one day it will be... i hope ;) before i get too old :D
Thanks, yea i never considered myself as having a lot of tools, the one day i looked around and i was like..."heh heh heh...awesome"
I also have more tools tucked away elsewhere...including a 240v MIG welder in the garage (Lincoln MIGPak 180)
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Here is the room where I squeeze in many activities : reading, modelling, watchmaking and recently electronics. Unlike the many workbenches I've seen here, mine is rather modest, although I am lucky enough to have a room on the first floor and get natural daylight. Far better than the basement workplaces I was used to in my former life...
I have to confess that electronics is an interest I developed only a few weeks ago. But I want to catch up quickly.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/scalephantomphixer/modelling/workbench/large/20110618-atelier-10.jpg)
Entering the room. To the left is my library. Books about aircraft, watchmaking, modeling, CDs, a few old altimeters on the shelf and the gorgeous view outside.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/scalephantomphixer/modelling/workbench/large/20110618-atelier-6_1.jpg)
Switching over to the computer corner. I became a converted Mac user a few years ago I no day I regret the move. Right of the Mac is my little soldering station, with a binocular to check the soldering joints (and other tiny parts, like watch gears and modeling stuff).
(http://photos.imageevent.com/scalephantomphixer/modelling/workbench/large/20110618-atelier-7_1.jpg)
Moving on to the workbench, where alternatively I practice modelling and watchmaking. The open item in the middle of the picture is an integrated airbrush paint booth. The drawers contain all the tools. The airbrush compressor is stored under the bench.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/scalephantomphixer/modelling/workbench/large/20110618-atelier-8.jpg)
This is the place where my knowledge level about electronics should rise. You see, there is pretty much nothing (like in my head), but that's gonna change.
(http://photos.imageevent.com/scalephantomphixer/modelling/learjet/large/20110603-Learjet-10.jpg)
My first project was to design and assemble a 555 flasher for the aircraft model I am building (see here: http://greutert.wordpress.com/maquettes/gates_learjet_35a/ (http://greutert.wordpress.com/maquettes/gates_learjet_35a/).
Here it is on the breadboard (I've soldered in the meantime to a PCB). Fortunately for my motivation it happens to work quite fine ;D
See'ya all in the posts, I am looking forward to understand you :D
Best regards,
-Pierre
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I have not gotten enough time to take some happy snaps of my cluttered sleeping room. I am not a purely an electrical engineer or tech. I have a mixture of tools and instruments that reflects upon my educational experience and small employment on and off. I do not have as much electrical instruments as others on this blog. I do not have a lot, just a few antique and new instruments. This is not a small business or academia. I started electronics during grade school era by myself with those many projects in one kit that has the components mounted on cardboard with spring loaded clips and digital logic truth tables or simple panel mount analog meter. My first multimeter was a Radio Shack Micronta analog meter. I do not have much, mostly microscopes for geology and hand sample rocks and minerals, vintage computers, Hasselblad 500C camera from 1954, and few electronics parts and Weller adjustable temperature soldering stations, and. . .:
Rigol 1052 oscilloscope
Chinese made small single channel analog 10 MHz oscilloscope
pocket sized function generator for $60.00 USD
Philips PM2505 and PM2618 multimeters
Radio Shack Micronta analog multimeter
Simpson low Ohms 260-6XLPM analog multimeter
Fluke 187 multimeter
Meiji Techno SKT-2 stereo magnifier
Zeiss DR1040 plastic stereo magnifier
Nikon SMZ-U larger stereo magnifier
hand solder sucker
copper solder absorbing brad
breadboards
many in one electronics project kits
Anthro tables
bed
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I would like to have a Agilent oscilloscope, some day.
Leitz and Olympus compound microscopes for my science experience in the past.
BW Optical small geology show shelf collection for Nanjing, China made microscopes. I have a 1954 vintage French Vanilla butter color Swiss Wild Heerbrugg M11 compound microscope, very well made and pretty. I would like the heavy HP-54720A at 1.1 GHz digital oscilloscope in a metal frame, if the Agilent is not affordable; that is a dream instrument. I have a small shelf of electronics books and data sheet books from electronics school days at a community college. I like to focus on the project than evaluating electronics tools and instruments.
Lawsen
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this is my shit-tip of a "lab"
and for good measure my very first multimeter
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I thought, throw-in my now excedingly small experimental bench due living in a small flat. :-\
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Here's me. Nothing special, but serves me well.
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I like these topics! Always neat to see various setups, gives me ideas...
My old apartment setup.
(http://one.scfhosting.com/shareit/rigol/lab/DSCN1852.jpg)
In myy new house (moved 3 months ago).
(http://one.scfhosting.com/shareit/rigol/lab/DSCN1975.jpg)
My spare fridge full of beer! Perfect for those long nights.
(http://one.scfhosting.com/shareit/rigol/lab/DSCN1976.jpg)
(http://one.scfhosting.com/shareit/rigol/lab/DSCN1977.jpg)
(http://one.scfhosting.com/shareit/rigol/lab/DSCN1979.jpg)
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Small part of my mess... ;D
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6971/stoll.jpg)
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Posted this in the other workbench thread, didn't realize this one was here....
I just re-worked mine a bit as it was a tad cluttered.
Now I have some room to work.
Here's a before and after:
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And how's your lab rated by the wife? (general question).
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And how's your lab rated by the wife? (general question).
Waste of space
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And how's your lab rated by the wife? (general question).
Very acceptable use of space since she love's when I fix her stuff. ;D
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And how's your lab rated by the wife? (general question).
I'm finishing my new workspace, and will show some pictures later, I have changed everything on that workspace due the wife factor.
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Here is mine, first lab and current.
On first lab the project is a audio modulated SSTC running from a Nokia XpressMusic phone
On the current i was hacking the McVoice power supply
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Lab i build around 2 weeks ago. It's inspired by Dave's bench :) .
Still have to clean it when i have some more time ...
(http://i39.tinypic.com/2dmb9qa.jpg)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/11w4y1d.jpg)
(http://i41.tinypic.com/30k57gn.jpg)
Cheap 50 euro soldering station :C
Hakko fx-888 cost around 175-200 euro here and a Weller Ws-81 is like 230-255 euro ...
Need a new soldering station for a decent price ... maybe i'll just pick up the Hakko and pay the supplier to much money for a decent soldering station.
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Now that I'm subscribed on this thread, it's interesting to see other people's workstations. Those cabinets with the little clear plastic drawers sure are popular. I just store all my parts in the bags and little boxes they ship in all stuffed in a drawer.
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Spikee,
where did you get that nice solder holder?
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I bought it at Conrad.com but they have similar ones on ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Solder-Wire-Cord-Stand-Reel-Holder-Metal-Support-/260917222727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbfe0dd47#ht_1530wt_1392 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Solder-Wire-Cord-Stand-Reel-Holder-Metal-Support-/260917222727?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cbfe0dd47#ht_1530wt_1392)
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This is my workbench at home. I have been meaning to do a post describing it all, as some decent consideration went into the features:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G1C9QtfQJ9I/TrEUec_YQXI/AAAAAAAAF9w/gQ9AVDBMvU0/s800/IMG_20111102_205745.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ezGXQxSjha4/TrET9xpdxuI/AAAAAAAAF9Y/OhW6j8ZsbTE/s800/IMG_20111102_205642.jpg)
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This is my workbench at home. I have been meaning to do a post describing it all, as some decent consideration went into the features:
Did you get those extending arms (holding the pref board) from somewhere cheap?
Are they for sale on-line?
And the LCD arms, were they cheap to? Here they get almost as expensive as the screen they hold...
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And the LCD arms, were they cheap to? Here they get almost as expensive as the screen they hold...
I wanted one too, but was amazed howmuch they cost
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I also want and need one !
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In USA the monitor arms are very cheap. Under $20 USD.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10828#1082808 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10828#1082808)
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Hello Every Body
Just a litte view of mylab.
Lots of home build equipment.
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In USA the monitor arms are very cheap. Under $20 USD.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10828#1082808 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10828#1082808)
Yeah, I've seen them on eBay from the USA, but than they want 50$+ for the shipping! It's insane! Once I sent a 14 kg very large volume package to England on the regular mail company for 60 USD, and the international mail fee is the same to every country in the world, so, to the USA it should have been the same.
It sounds like those ebay sellers who ship internationally are trying to rip us off with inflated shipping prices. For 50$ I could probably sent 5 or more LCD arms.
This is the cheapest I can get, 79USD international shipping :o
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250971061902 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250971061902)
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This is my workbench at home. I have been meaning to do a post describing it all, as some decent consideration went into the features:
Did you get those extending arms (holding the pref board) from somewhere cheap?
Are they for sale on-line?
And the LCD arms, were they cheap to? Here they get almost as expensive as the screen they hold...
The extending arms are actually a combination of cheap PCB holder, and the arm from an Ikea shaving mirror:
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/38006200/ (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/38006200/)
The LCD arms were found on ebay, i think, at about $50 each. Even if it's a significant portion of the monitor price, the additional space you get from them is well worth it. I'm never going without again!
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In USA the monitor arms are very cheap. Under $20 USD.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10828#1082808 (http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10828#1082808)
Yeah, I've seen them on eBay from the USA, but than they want 50$+ for the shipping! It's insane! Once I sent a 14 kg very large volume package to England on the regular mail company for 60 USD, and the international mail fee is the same to every country in the world, so, to the USA it should have been the same.
It sounds like those ebay sellers who ship internationally are trying to rip us off with inflated shipping prices. For 50$ I could probably sent 5 or more LCD arms.
This is the cheapest I can get, 79USD international shipping :o
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250971061902 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250971061902)
Shipping from the USA is quite expensive even if you are a big business with a UPS/FedEx account. Those monitor arms aren't that light either. You're best bet is to find someone who sells them locally, and brings them in by boat. Shipping stuff internationally from Australia isn't that cheap in my experience either. For small stuff less than 1KG its not so bad.
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I'm just starting out so its still bare. It was just a storage shelf 1 week ago holding boxes ;D
I have a plastic 44 drawer arriving tomorrow. Very shortly, I'll be getting better lighting, LCD mount, a rework station, solder smoke absorber device, power supply, a decent multimeter, panavise holder.
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9041/labtop.jpg)
(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/4641/lapview.jpg)
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Some snapshots of my lab.
A rather insane amount of soldering irons, 2 Weller WECPs and 1 Metcal (reason to have 3: total surplus cost was approx US12)
2 scopes, a Rigol DS1052E, eh, 1102 and a Tektronix 2465CTS. To the right of the Tek sits a Huntron Tracker.
A massive HP 6267B linear power supply (0-40V @ 10A), interesting design with a triac pre-regulator in the mains circuit to limit dissipation.
A Fluke 87 DMM. 2 homebuilt power supplies (by now 30, 35 years old and still working just fine ;D ) A LF sine generator (built when I was drafted into the air force, with ample spare time and a nice workshop at my disposal). A home built frequency counter and a home built LC meter.
On the bench various bits and bobs I'm working on. To the very left an "Extreme Isolation Transformer" (that is what the label says :o ) that I scavenged from a DEC VAX minicomputer.
On the shelves the inevitable (for a IT pro) stack of servers, PCs, laptops etc.
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A massive HP 6267B linear power supply (0-40V @ 10A), interesting design with a triac pre-regulator in the mains circuit to limit dissipation.
This approach is used by Statron power supplies also
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I was bored and decided to invent a new kind of workbench:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=187.0;attach=19573;image)
I call it the engineering tower!
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I was bored and decided to invent a new kind of workbench:
I call it the engineering tower!
*plays jenga with your engineering tower*
;)
this is mine... normally isnt this clean and orderly so I took a picture <.<
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This is my bench.
(http://www.kirbyw.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Images/Bench/IMG_2101.jpg)
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OMG some of these are the neatest cleanest bench Ive ever seen RFLOL .. My bench was only this neat and clean once lol .. that was before I started any work .. actually I have two benches, the best one is out side of my house, in a lil 15x15 portable building , but we moved to a new location, and its so far from the house now, that the underground electrical cable to power it was cost preventive at the time to install enuff juice to power a heat and ac unit, and all my power tools, drill press, table top cnc, bandsaw, and all the other stuff I have in there .. so Im working in spare bedroom inside.. I just use that for the dirty work.
I used to and still do make custom fishing lures, balsa and various other woods.. thats what that was setup for originally but since moving to new house.. just have never got to get 220v out there yet .
Ill post some pics of both as soon as I get cleaned up lol
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Well here is my bench .. well the working area any way it goes round to the left down the wall about 14ft, other side is tools, parts bins, etc etc .. I think I need another scope lol
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This Is my lab so far going to shrink it because space is needed for other things and I feel likes IRS not organized at all. Anyone have any designs for benches for a 10 x 10 area looked at others some are way too big and some are a tad small.
-shims506
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This is my electronic section of my shop. It is built in a standard shelf unit with hardboard double stick taped to the sides. The table top is purchased from home depot and attached with piano hinge. The legs are attached with strap hinges to allow the fold up feature. This only takes up 18" x 48" of floor space when folded up. Vacuum pump and part cabinets are on top. Top shelf with the 2225 on it has lots of room for expansion and another shelf or riser. Bins in bottom are cheap and I made the risers and guides out of particle board and hardboard. Notice on Pic ending in 858 the light is mounted using one of those bicycle hoists so I can lower the light for high intensity or raise it all the way up to access the upper shelves. Light intensity varies with the square of distance so moving it half the distance to the table top makes it 4 times as bright.
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Wow. A lot of you guys are so organized. My bench looks like the inside of a junk drawer.
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@shims506
Now that's what i call soldering gun, it isn't lead free thought :D
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@shims506
Now that's what i call soldering gun, it isn't lead free thought :D
Lol the hakko?
-shims506
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NO lol he means the AK47s on the wall lol
@shims506
Now that's what i call soldering gun, it isn't lead free thought :D
Lol the hakko?
-shims506
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Doesn't everybody's lab double as a militia storage room?
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And another lab :-)
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@shims506
I was actually referring to the AK47s ;D
@timorousme
Sure, take my lab for example i have hot air gun, soldering gun, hot melt glue gun, coil gun, thermal imaging camera gun, hell i even have an electron gun. 8)
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This Is my lab so far going to shrink it because space is needed for other things and I feel likes IRS not organized at all. Anyone have any designs for benches for a 10 x 10 area looked at others some are way too big and some are a tad small.
-shims506
those are real guns or airsoft ones? anyway nice
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This Is my lab so far going to shrink it because space is needed for other things and I feel likes IRS not organized at all. Anyone have any designs for benches for a 10 x 10 area looked at others some are way too big and some are a tad small.
-shims506
those are real guns or airsoft ones? anyway nice
Haha I would never leave real guns out like that, they are airsoft guns and i work on them occasionally. The two guns you see were built from scratch, my prized possessions :)
Thanks for all the compliments :)
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My Favorite place to be.....
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My Favorite place to be.....
How do you like your Zephtronics stuff?
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Well, quite an old photo - the Tek 7904A has been moved to a new home as its too big. The board on the desk is a Jim Williams design of an ultra-low-distortion oscillator. The 2465A is my scope of choice and the 2430A is being a bit temperamental at the moment (probably because the workshop is cold overnight). The other end of the workshop is the assembly & storage area - mostly Metcal MX-500 stuff, PSUs and racks of components, and there is a machining area with lathe/mill/press etc.
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Hi all,
Here's some updated pics of my workshop (shed!). It's just about to get extended, I'm adding another 8ft and knocking through an internal door (to left of laptop). I need the space for storage. It'll be 24x9ft.
Current project = Arduino powered home built Segway.
Ian.
(http://www.ianjohnston.com/wshop/1.jpg)
(http://www.ianjohnston.com/wshop/2.jpg)
(http://www.ianjohnston.com/wshop/3.jpg)
(http://www.ianjohnston.com/wshop/4.jpg)
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Which small parts cabinets are those in the last photo?
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My Favorite place to be.....
How do you like your Zephtronics stuff?
I'm a big fan of the Zephtronics equipment. I got the Solder paste dispenser, and the vacuum air pick. The solder paste dispenser gets a lot of use, perfect for prototyping and low level manufacturing, I really cant make a good looking board without it. The vacuum air pick doesn't get much use at all.
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This one is my Baby.......Straight out of main land China, came with no instructions, very little support from the company. But works amazing, once you figure out how to use it. Saved my ass countless times. From an Idea to holding the PCB in your hand 2 hrs later, is a beautiful thing.
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Which small parts cabinets are those in the last photo?
They are Raaco storage cabinets, and available in all sorts of sizes and drawer combos.
You can get them on Ebay.................but they are expensive!
(http://www.ianjohnston.com/content/images/stories/IanJ/ElecWorkshop/IMG_2847.JPG)
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http://au.element14.com/raaco/126762/cabinet-organiser-44compartment/dp/136709101 (http://au.element14.com/raaco/126762/cabinet-organiser-44compartment/dp/136709101)
Those Raaco storage cabinets are on sale for $15.40!
Backordered but if you order now they'll probably get them in soon. They're in the latest catalogue advertised as 50% off.
UK: http://uk.farnell.com/raaco/126762/cabinet-organiser-44compartment/dp/1367091?Ntt=126762 (http://uk.farnell.com/raaco/126762/cabinet-organiser-44compartment/dp/1367091?Ntt=126762)
Probably same everywhere Farnell/E14 operates part# 126762
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I wish they sold in the USA :'( .. or if they do I haven't found a source yet ! Shipping from UK or AU would be insane, and take forever!
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http://www.newark.com/raaco/126762/cabinet-organiser-44compartment/dp/54M1704?Ntt=126762 (http://www.newark.com/raaco/126762/cabinet-organiser-44compartment/dp/54M1704?Ntt=126762)
$20 fee per order though
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Here is a picture of my home lab.
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Here is a picture of my home lab.
Love the lab :)
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Thank you Shims!
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Here is a picture of my home lab.
Looks great, but why is there two of everything? ;D
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Here is a picture of my home lab.
You really don't need all of those scopes. I'll happily take a few off your hands. ;)
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I guess I just don't want to lug the gear all the way over 10 feet to the other side! So 2 of everything makes more sense! And the fact that I am a gearhead! HA HA
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Hey guys,
I'm 17 years old so forgive my rather lackluster workspace, but this is what I'm working with.
A few meters, a scope, cheap function generator, soldering iron, desoldering iron, crapton of banana wires, test leads. That's about it.
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I like those right-angled test leads. Source please?
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I like those right-angled test leads. Source please?
The ones hanging on the wall? Those are homemade. I bought the wire in the bargain bin of AWC Wire. It's UL1015 18AWG hook up wire. I chose UL1015 because it's got thicker insulation than UL1007 so it might be a little more flexible and reliable. I got 300ft (~150ea) total for about $20 shipped. Excellent deal.
I used Pomona 1825 banana plugs. Bought 8 of black and 8 of red. Cost me around $25 for the plugs. So a grand total of around $45 for 8 x 24" test leads.
It wasn't necessarily cheaper than the retail options. I reckon you can get some premade Pomona leads for about $5-6 each. which would be roughly the same price as mine. However, I do have around 275ft of red and black 18AWG wire ...so, I guess I win?
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The dude on your computer monitor seems to be quite happy to be there.
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What else do you need? ;D
Hey guys,
I'm 17 years old so forgive my rather lackluster workspace, but this is what I'm working with.
A few meters, a scope, cheap function generator, soldering iron, desoldering iron, crapton of banana wires, test leads. That's about it.
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Finally got my bench set up. The Peg board really got me organized. :)
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What else do you need? ;D
Hey guys,
I'm 17 years old so forgive my rather lackluster workspace, but this is what I'm working with.
A few meters, a scope, cheap function generator, soldering iron, desoldering iron, crapton of banana wires, test leads. That's about it.
You know...RF Spectrum Analyzers, 30GHz Tek MSO, etc. :P
On a more serious note, I do actually need (want?) a bench supply and maybe an LCR meter.
Yes, I'm pretty satisfied with my test equipment, though I don't have anything too expensive or amazing.
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Oh there is always more things to WAN- er, NEED, :D but for a 17 yo you are off to a helluva great start. Keep at it!
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So true! At 17 most of us were lucky to own even just 1 meter!
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Heh,
good example of a baaaaddd workbench.
it does get tidied up occasionally... honest.
first 2 main workbench
next job bench
then parts
and more parts. (I probably missed some... (parts))?
regards
Andrew
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I like those right-angled test leads. Source please?
The ones hanging on the wall? Those are homemade. I bought the wire in the bargain bin of AWC Wire. It's UL1015 18AWG hook up wire. I chose UL1015 because it's got thicker insulation than UL1007 so it might be a little more flexible and reliable. I got 300ft (~150ea) total for about $20 shipped. Excellent deal.
I used Pomona 1825 banana plugs. Bought 8 of black and 8 of red. Cost me around $25 for the plugs. So a grand total of around $45 for 8 x 24" test leads.
It wasn't necessarily cheaper than the retail options. I reckon you can get some premade Pomona leads for about $5-6 each. which would be roughly the same price as mine. However, I do have around 275ft of red and black 18AWG wire ...so, I guess I win?
Thanks for the info. I think I'll eventually pic up some of that wire and plugs. I've been getting by with ebay audio banana jacks - But the recent ones on ebay are only for much larger gauge speaker wire, and you can't get a 18 gauge wire secured. Thanks again.
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Finally! Figured out how to post youtube videos. Derrrrrrr.
My Bench setup (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE4scaqaHww#)
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When I first joined here I was looking for an oscilloscope as the one I had was no longer working, it had been some time since I had used it and it wasn't worth looking at with all the cheap digital scopes on the market.
I didn't get it as the project never came to fruition. Now I am working on some other things I decided to get the cheap DS1102E, it's not the agilent but it's not the price and it will certainly do for what I am working on right now so I am very happy to have replaced mine for the price of this.
Unfortunately a number of other tools that were in storage are mysteriously no longer in storage and seem to have gone missing. so I am starting from scratch except for a soldering station and power supply that I am always using for odd things.
Most of what I will be working on in the near term will be microcontroller based and I will take the opportunity to move from my atmel kit to the TI cortex M3 and start doing SMD.
So, this afternoon I will order the atten 858D+ that I see is popular. I had another couple fluke DMM but they seem lost so something else there and another power supply will be on my short list.
Right now I am increasing my workshop space as I work at home so I am stuck on my computer desk until that is complete and some concrete gets laid. It will be tight for the meantime!
Here are some pics of one of the workshop areas, I have another which has more tools but that is the area that is getting expanded so it's a big mess right now!
All these tools are some way incorporated in to various electronic projects, a lot of what I play with has a mechanical and electrical component to it. In the new space there will also be a new laser with a 1500x1200mm bed. One thing I will use it for is to cut and engrave panels for mounting leds/swtiches etc on to. As well as cut all the balsa parts for a spitfire ;)
I look forward to making some new prettier boards with SMD components :)
It also looks like while I am at my computer desk I will need to make some stands so I can stack things. I may also put the scope out of the way and use the computer interface to save a bit more space. Not sure how well the computer interface works but it's worth a try.
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Look what I did today
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4895/20120220155843.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/20120220155843.jpg/)
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Look what I did today
You lined up your cordless drills? ;) Looks good.
This thread is really not good for me - I'm getting a nasty case of lab envy!
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When I first joined here I was looking for an oscilloscope as the one I had was no longer working, it had been some time since I had used it and it wasn't worth looking at with all the cheap digital scopes on the market.......
Nice setup! Drill presses are the most helpful thing every invented.
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Look what I did today
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/4895/20120220155843.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/20120220155843.jpg/)
So what exactly do you do with all of those drills?
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Drill presses are the most helpful thing every invented.
You sir, are correct.
However, a band saw, lathe or milling machine would be nice too. :)
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You lined up your cordless drills? ;) Looks good.
This thread is really not good for me - I'm getting a nasty case of lab envy!
How'd I know that was coming? ;D Thx.
So what exactly do you do with all of those drills?
Usually injure myself.
Really, though, I do a lot of woodworking (I have since my teens). I picked up the Hitachi set about 2 years ago and the Dewalt set, along with a circular saw & recip saw that aren't pictured, were an Xmas gift. The big ones are general use (both hammer drills) and the smaller ones are impact drivers so I use them to drive screws - you can/shouldn't use them to drill holes.
Switching bits sucks.
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Oh I didn't realize (or look) to see if they were different types.
Well that makes more sense.
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Here's my main bench:
(http://s15.postimage.org/52jkw49ln/IMG_1281.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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From left to right, I have a B&K Precision 879B, Fluke 87-V, Rigol DS1052E, Rigol DSA815-TG, Instek SFG-1003, Rigol DM3058, Itech (B&K Precision) 8511, Rigol DG2041A, Instek GPS-4303.
In the background, on my other bench you can barely see my Lecroy WaveAce102. I also have a Hakko FX-888, an AVR ONE!, PicKit2, J-Link EDU, Digilent Atlys, Terasic DE0 Nano, and numerous other powerful toys.
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My hardware workbench
(http://www.siliconvalleygarage.com/circuitsonline/2012/fehok1.jpg)
left to right :
- Agilent 16702B logic analyser with two 16750a analyzer blades (400MHz state / 2GHz timing / 4Meg memory per channel , 68 channels ) , one 16520 pattern generator (32 channels , 200 M vectors / second) blade
- Agilent 54832D 1GHz 4Gs/s 4+16 channel oscilloscope. Deep memory option (128 megasamples per channel)
- Agilent E3610 analog power supplies
- Agilent 34401 6 1/2 digit Digital multimeters
- Agilent MSO7104A 4+16 channel 1Ghz 4Gs/s oscilloscope. Deep memory option / packet decoders . this is my main machine. The reason i keep the 54832D is because i have the FPGA licences for that one. it allows me to debug inside FPGA's and that scope is timesynced with the logic analyzer so i can do mixed signal stuff
- Agilent 33120 arbitray generator
- Agilent E2641 3 channel power supply
- Agilent 8904A synthesizer. This thing has differential isolated output. ideal for precise LF applications
- Agilent 5334B counter with Oven option
- Agilent 8116 function generators. One with option 001 ( burst and modulation modes)
- Agilent 3225B signal generator. this one can do up to 40 volts p/p .
- vision engineering mantis with x8 super long working distance lens and x4 lens ( i primarily do SMD stuff... 0402 0603 , sometimes smaller )
All the generators are locked to the crystal oven in the counter.
My battery of soldering irons. smd tweezers, hot air pencil , microtouch for very precise work, two wsp80 with different tips ( so i don't have to swap all the time ) and a desoldering gun
My software workbench
(http://www.siliconvalleygarage.com/circuitsonline/2012/fehok2.JPG)
- General purpose power supply / counter / fg/ dmm
- Agilent 54831A 600Mhz 4Gs/s 4 meg deep memory general purpose scope
- older 54645D 2+16 scope 100 Mhz. primarily used for the digital channels
Not shown : my pile of half repaired / half broken / stuff to be scrapped / sold / donated equipment. a bunch of 16500A and B / 16700Alogic analysers with blades , A lecroy wavemaster scope ( bwuaaark. should be called lecrap )
Most of my equipment was gotten cheap/free because it was broken. Over the years i've gotten pretty good at repairing agilent equipment.
I traded a bunch of other scopes (tektronix TDS7xx / agilent 54645D's ) for the 54832D and the MSO7104. The Logic analyser was bought from a company that stopped hardware development 4 year ago. They only sell software now ( they used to have an asic running their software, now they license the algorithm.. ) They were moving and nobody still there knew what this machine was. It was on ebay for 300$ ... local pickup only.. and i got it! This was more than 120K$ machine when new 8 years ago ...
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That's some pretty sweet
workbench Agilent laboratory, free_electron ;D
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That's some pretty sweet workbench Agilent laboratory, free_electron ;D
There is even a spindle of HP blank media. Dedication!
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That's some pretty sweet workbench Agilent laboratory, free_electron ;D
There is even a spindle of HP blank media. Dedication!
AHHHHHH !! I used to have a 20kg box of HP tapes ! Threw them out during the beginning of the year . :'(
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I still have some QIC cartridges, still sealed........ Who needs a 40M backup tape? And the remains of a box of 1G DAT data tapes, where the drive died ( actually the 3rd drive died and we bough a DLT unit instead) eventually.
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I still have some QIC cartridges, still sealed........ Who needs a 40M backup tape? And the remains of a box of 1G DAT data tapes, where the drive died ( actually the 3rd drive died and we bough a DLT unit instead) eventually.
Before i thrashed the tapes i had a 20megger Sony cartridge :P And some 10GB DLT
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i still have three fluke handheld meters. two 179 and a 83 (original model ) but those are only used if i need to do something 'mobile'. there is also a couple of philips/fluke pm2811 programmable power supplies and a couple of pm2525 multimeters. i have a LeCroy
oyap wavemaster too (500Mhz 4 channel 4Gs/s ) but those are gathering dust...
My last tek went out the door about 3 years ago.
As for that stuff from the drunken swiss scope maker .. i won't touch that with a long stick. At work we bought a brand new ( as in freshly released) wavemaster with the 32 channel digital pod option. I lost 4 days of work because that thing was lying. you'd zoom in on a segment but the display would show you something else. if you moved the viewport , the analog channels were lost... i had a report with 15 pages of errors in that scope. They didn't believe me. i had to walk them through each and every problem on the phone.... hook up a probe there , push that button , turn that knob 1 click now push that button.. what do you see. ? ah yes.. we'll that's not quite right ... we'll fix that..
It took them 2 months ! the scope was unusable... i had to rent a machine . When they finally came back they sent me the installer file. Here is the beta release, please install it and see if it works correctly now.. WHAT ?!? i bought a 50K$ scope that doesn't work , have to wait 2 months and now i have to test your beta-ware too ? you can have it back.
And there is the endless 'calibrating , triggering , acquiring' cycle. Their machines have immense blind-times. turn a knob too fast and they bluescreen or crash.
I only want HP / Agilent equipment now.
Tek's are junk. They were the best but with the advent of the TDSxxx series the repairability went to hell. They are full of unobtainium parts , no manuals and extremely difficult to troubleshoot. Agilent kept on publishing schematics until mid 2000's ( the newer machines don't have them anymore , although you can get the CLIP ( component level information package ) if there is a military variant of the machine. the us militray demands full schematics for anything they buy.
The serviceabilit of agilent is far superior. you can open machines , unflold the modules and still power it up. everything is accessible. with other brands you can unplug modules but then you can't power up the machines.
they also have eol support. like the logic analyzer. even though that machine went out of production in 2004 they still guarantee software updates until 2016 ... and they are free. just download the iso files , burn to cd and off you go. the same with the scopes.
I have a very expensive Tek scope at work that died... motherboard corrupted. take it to tek : ah sorry , we don;t have these boards anymore... but the machine is barely 4 years old. ah yes well..too bad. you can buy an upgrade , we'll give you a 15% discount ...
i put in a different motherboard, tweaked it a bit and its running. So long suckers !
Right, got to go .. i have scored two new instruments yesterday... another E3631A power supply and a 4263B RLC bridge ... they need my attention... both are dead. the power supply shows nonsense on its display. setting voltage works ok , but reading it gives absurd values like 9000 ampere and -41 volts... probably the digitizer that is shot. a couple of opamps should do the trick. ( i've seen this problem before , the integrator in the a/d dies and then it can't converge .. a simple AD711 )
The RLc bridge has the current source fried.. probably someone hooked up a large still charged capacitor. both protection diodes were burnt ... so probably the driver stage is fried too. nothing exotic in there. should be fixable.
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From no lab at all to this mess in just a month.
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3309/imag1690t.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/imag1690t.jpg/)
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ok i just got the study done a couple of weeks ago. I temporarily set my bench top on two saw horses whilst i built this;
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7212/7161704190_2311972c3d_b.jpg)
and well tonight i slid it all over ;D ;D ;D
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7161698244_bacf7c9dd0_b.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8013/7161700934_eec1ab08d0_b.jpg)
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Hell, here's my humble setting :) works nicely for me ! I think I'll always want more and more equipment !
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ok i just got the study done a couple of weeks ago. I temporarily set my bench top on two saw horses whilst i built this;
omg. it's a realy ikea jerker in the corner ! I wish they would make those again ! i have two of them they are so comfortable. you can assmeble them with the work surface at the height you awnt , top instrument shelves ...
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omg. it's a realy ikea jerker in the corner ! I wish they would make those again ! i have two of them they are so comfortable. you can assmeble them with the work surface at the height you awnt , top instrument shelves ...
I noticed that you had two. I also have two, they are fantastic. I check ebay every once in a while to see if any are up for sale in my area just so that I can have another one.
The beauty of them is even if you don't have the space at any point in time, it takes up no space at all once dismantled.
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they fly by on craigslist once in a while too...
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good catch guys. yea I love that desk. I'm not sure why they discontinued it. I ran to Criagslist to get one after I saw this picture;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/aud1073ch/2263840941/#sizes/l/in/faves-thespeedphreak/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/aud1073ch/2263840941/#sizes/l/in/faves-thespeedphreak/)
I thought about getting another 1 or 2 for my bench but I wanted something big and this was cheaper. I built my bench to be the same height as my Jerker station :)
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Since this is bumped up again and I am almost done with my bench after two months I think it is time to post here.
Still need to put some electric tools there and need to find a place for the wire reels I got, but other than that it is done.
Al my stuff was in a closet and I realized I got too much to put on the bench, on the photo you see 4 drawers under the bench, that was my bench with 4 closets under, it was pretty small and not workable, I am using that as storage now for things like sprays and chemical stuff.
I got green light from my wife to use more space in the room. New bench is 95cm high, 85cm deep and 185cm wide, the shelves are 50cm deep. Bench is made from an old closet made out HDF, the door is my work space and the side plates are the shelves, the white back plate where the shelves are on is the back of the closet.
All my hand tools like cutters but also mechanical tools are in my Gedore Adjudant tool trolley, it is fully loaded.
The bench is not big and I don’t have much equipment but it is more than enough for me.
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z298/Bl4ckW0lfi3/benchstage11.jpg)
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Very nice!
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Since this is bumped up again and I am almost done with my bench after two months I think it is time to post here.
Still need to put some electric tools there and need to find a place for the wire reels I got, but other than that it is done.
Man, i have always loved the look of your lab along with that many power supplies 8)
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Thanks guys :)
Unfortunately I don’t have new equipment like DSO or newer model function generator, but it is still good enough for me, I paused for very long time and that’s why my equipment got stuck on 90’s early 00’s
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Spawn that is BEAUTIFUL!
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i like the big fire extuinguisher on the top shelf :)
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i like the big fire extuinguisher on the top shelf :)
He is a wise man... 8)
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Thanks again guys :)
free_electron, it is a 3 liter extinguisher but enough for a small room like this :)
Got a 2 liter version in my Grand Voyager, people underestimate how fast one liter extinguisher goes empty.
Tube_Dude, I would be even wiser man if I didn’t use a water and foam fire extinguisher on a electronics bench, but I don’t like the idea having a powder extinguisher blown on my equipment because the corrosion it makes after a while, with this water and foam I can cut the electricity then extinguish the fire and dry up the mess.
Let’s hope I never use it :D
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Electronics Lab (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GWA8KyCHUo#ws)
here is my lab
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But CO2 is better than dry powder, less mess to clean up in small accidents. Best is Halon, but that is no longer made.
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Real hobby labs have one of thos big red 'mushroom' pushbutton ona bog yellow box mounted on the wall. If you hit that the lights turn off , red spinning lights switch on ( those old rotating warning lights , not a simple flasher ) and bathe the room in an atmosphere of danger. Meanwhile a booming voice transmitted from a speaker proclaims "Warning : Halon Release imminent. Evacuate the room immediately" and then counts down 5 4 3 2 1 and then the blast doors fall out of the ceiling and then halon is released from the ceiling floodgates.
at least that's how i always imagine it when i set something on fire... typically my spraybottle of wate rto wet the soldering iron sponge does fine ....
if i ever get my hollowed-out-volcano lab i'll definatley need to get me one of those...
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But CO2 is better than dry powder, less mess to clean up in small accidents. Best is Halon, but that is no longer made.
Yeah... Halon's not something you want to use on your hands ::)
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Halon is no worse than R22 or R134A, and at least will stay as liquid when neat room temperature. I still have a few halons that I can no longer get serviced, so they are in storage as there is no way to dispose of them other than releasing to atmosphere, and I would rather use them on a fire instead. No halon bank near me to take them ( and pay for the gas of course).
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?!? halon is gas ... no need to worry to get it on your hands.. you need to worry not the breathe it .. it will kill you , and very quickly
Halon System Discharge (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fyGGqgVzCY#)
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Real hobby labs have one of thos big red 'mushroom' pushbutton ona bog yellow box mounted on the wall. If you hit that the lights turn off , red spinning lights switch on ( those old rotating warning lights , not a simple flasher ) and bathe the room in an atmosphere of danger.
This is to make it harder for our hero to find the exit.
and then the blast doors fall out of the ceiling and then halon is released from the ceiling floodgates.
At work we now have mostly Inergen systems. One is supposed to have a higher chance of surviving if one happens to end up at the wrong side of the pressure-tight doors when it is released. Still not something I intend to try any day.
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?!? halon is gas ... no need to worry to get it on your hands.. you need to worry not the breathe it .. it will kill you , and very quickly
That's a myth. Halon itself is fairly harmless (1301, 1211 is slightly toxic but is nearly never used in flood systems).
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?!? halon is gas ... no need to worry to get it on your hands.. you need to worry not the breathe it .. it will kill you , and very quickly
That's a myth. Halon itself is fairly harmless (1301, 1211 is slightly toxic but is nearly never used in flood systems).
I do not know, but i have been taught that Halon is harmless... sure i know now.
Certainly all train stations in my country use halon as an extinguisher ...
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?!? halon is gas ... no need to worry to get it on your hands.. you need to worry not the breathe it .. it will kill you , and very quickly
That's a myth. Halon itself is fairly harmless (1301, 1211 is slightly toxic but is nearly never used in flood systems).
I do not know, but i have been taught that Halon is harmless... sure i know now.
Certainly all train stations in my country use halon as an extinguisher ...
1211 is apparently slightly toxic, 1301 has no permanent or damaging effects. It does, however, impair you somewhat. The danger comes from high temperature fires. Halon 1301 + high temperatures produces hydrogen fluoride and hydrogen bromide. Mixed with water (see: eyes, respitory tract) they become hydroflouric acid and hydrobromic acid. Continued exposure to that in the air in sufficient quantity will quickly become dangerous. Not, however, as quickly as a 60% CO2 flood system will kill you (about 30 seconds.).
Halon is much safer and more effective than CO2 in most situations. It's also, however, a CFC, and even at a low mix ratio (5-10% vs up to around 75% for CO2) that's a lot of gas. Hence the green nuts decided we should instead use CO2, which is fatal if you get stuck in the room with it.
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Hence the green nuts decided we should instead use CO2, which is fatal if you get stuck in the room with it.
No Inergen in the UK?
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Inergen is a nitrogen/argon/CO2 mix that displaces the oxygen in the room, so is just as fatal.
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Inergen is a nitrogen/argon/CO2 mix that displaces the oxygen in the room, so is just as fatal.
The idea with Inergen is to use it to lower (but not completely displace) the oxygen in the room, to the point that the remaining oxygen is no longer sufficient to support combustion, but still enough to barely support humans.
The idea with the carbon dioxide in Inergen is that after discharge it is diluted to roughly a 2% CO2 concentration in the room. This is supposed to triggers the human body to take deeper breath to make better use of the remaining oxygen in the space. This in turn is supposed to significantly increase your chance of surviving while the Inergen's nitrogen and argon does not do harm to the human body.
This requires a carefully planed and maintained system that doesn't just flood a room to the brim, but gets the balance between Inergen and remaining oxygen right.
As I wrote, I am not planning to test it, but I am happy that my employer changed to Inergen systems from a reputable manufacturer with proper maintenance, instead of the previous "kill everything in sight" approach.
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Still better than water or dry powder. Use that in a data centre and you better have good off site backups.
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and much higher wallet to pay the losses :)
btw for electronics fire which is the proper type of fire extinguisher?
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and much higher wallet to pay the losses :)
btw for electronics fire which is the proper type of fire extinguisher?
Powder or CO2 for anything electrical. For the little prototype you just wrecked, a good pair of lungs. :P
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and much higher wallet to pay the losses :)
btw for electronics fire which is the proper type of fire extinguisher?
Best suited is dry powder... for a home type lab of course like mono ammonium phosphate
or CO2 which i hardly see around
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Rules from my old shop (my rules guess why?)
FIRE
Keep chemicals off your bench.
Turn off bench power.
Fire extinguisher is located on the front leg of the bench.
Don't try to save equipment just put it out.
HV must be done on the HV bench!!
So nice to be retired (mostly retired anyway)
...mike
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Well, best is halon, as it is non corrosive, evaporates off and has no static problems. Does no further damage than the fire.
Next is CO2, no damage to equipment, but has a bad static generating potential and can actually ignite flammable gases. Best for your electronics as it is the only one available off the shelf, and with a good shelf life. Note, you do want to get a 2kg unit with an aluminium housing, it is a lot lighter to move around and mount.
Dry powder is best if you only want to put out the fire, as it is somewhat corrosive, goes everywhere and is difficult to clean out of equipment, you will probably scrap it afterwards. Good for fires involving flammable liquids and kitchens, as it will handle most fires there, with a powder that smothers most fires and is low enough velocity not to blow burning liquid all over.
Water is cheap, plentiful and will put out most fires eventually. Bad around electrics, electronics, but very good for wood, paper and building structural fires.Messy, and the runoff can carry burning liquids.
The most commonly available is dry powder, cheap and easy to store. Next is CO2, and then water.
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We ended up filming a tour round our workshop for our blog, this is the 3rd version of the workshop, and was built from scratch to be a workshop-what'cha think?
Watt Circuit Dave's Lab Tour (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuLZYcRtczE#ws)
And some still pictures linked here, http://wattcircuit.com/the-workshops/ (http://wattcircuit.com/the-workshops/)
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You may have seen this - a lab tour as viewed on the screen of my oscilloscope:
Composite Video on an Analog Oscilloscope using XYZ - Lab tour... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FYF5uhCzAM#)
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We ended up filming a tour round our workshop for our blog, this is the 3rd version of the workshop, and was built from scratch to be a workshop-what'cha think?
Nice work, thanks for sharing.
"5 projects halfway through" - who hasn't! ;D
Dave.
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Just had a clean up so I posted my bench. This is a very busy automotive electronics workshop.
Last addition is a Rigol DG4062 arbitrary function generator for sending waveforms from the PC to the generator, however this function sadly does not work on firmware version 1.02 and updating does not work either. At a dead end with Rigol tech support. Anyway I digress, I'm thinking of adding some shelves for the equipment (3U 19" rack dimensions). Maybe some under shelf lighting also.
Kev.
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Well, best is halon, as it is non corrosive, evaporates off and has no static problems. Does no further damage than the fire.
Next is CO2, no damage to equipment, but has a bad static generating potential and can actually ignite flammable gases. Best for your electronics as it is the only one available off the shelf, and with a good shelf life. Note, you do want to get a 2kg unit with an aluminium housing, it is a lot lighter to move around and mount.
Dry powder is best if you only want to put out the fire, as it is somewhat corrosive, goes everywhere and is difficult to clean out of equipment, you will probably scrap it afterwards. Good for fires involving flammable liquids and kitchens, as it will handle most fires there, with a powder that smothers most fires and is low enough velocity not to blow burning liquid all over.
Water is cheap, plentiful and will put out most fires eventually. Bad around electrics, electronics, but very good for wood, paper and building structural fires.Messy, and the runoff can carry burning liquids.
The most commonly available is dry powder, cheap and easy to store. Next is CO2, and then water.
I do think You all think a little to complex, ;)
Most fires if detected early can be put out using a fireblanket, its a 130x150 cm thick dry (You can get wett ones for use on people, that cools burn victims ) fireproof blanket that you can put over the fire, the item that burns , wrap it up like a hot burrito and carry it out.
It doesn't pollute, kill ore anything bad, and can be reused.. nothing to clean up. :)
It has a natural post on the wall beside the fire extinguisher.
Its cheap, just around 12 $.
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ECUtech, that wouldnt happen to be a audi A3 dash now would it?
wouldnt happen to work in australia, sydney would you
(automotive instrumentation technition)
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Correct, except not Sydney, and my main line of work is engine management electronics with a speciality in instrumentation. I can repair all sorts of automotive electronics be it ECU or ABS module, computerised window controls, climate control panels etc.
My favorite items on the bench are the Hakko iron and desolderer. Thinking of getting a JBC for the quick change tips. The Hameg 4 x 32v 3A is brilliant (new sense leads going on soon). The Tek TPS2014 is reliable (CF card, no USB)and the TEK 2465 with a noisey fan doesn't get much action. The 10x 20x stereo microscope is a must for the modern electronics. I use the Hung Chang FG for high voltage hazards and the Rigol DG1012 is a good arb generator but I wish channel 2 could go at least to 5v at 2.5v offset. I won't mention the DG4062. Anyone got a memory chip for me with 1.03 loaded? The GW Instek is accurate but slow in auto range. Under the packet of aspro is my Xeltek Superpro burner which has served me well for about ten years now. Oh and every bench should have a good illuminated magnifier. I use it all day long since I can't focus on stuff close up these days.
Kev.
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There are some nice setups here, I enjoyed looking through this thread.
@ free_electron, OMG your setup is pure EE pron right there.
Here's my little home lab:
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff237/tr8rjohnk/20120523_150840.jpg)
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff237/tr8rjohnk/20120523_150821.jpg)
Sorry about the quality, I shot these with my phone as I was having some issues with my camera.
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@ free_electron, OMG your setup is pure EE pron right there.
And i have added a few 'toys' over the weekend ....
- An agilent RF generator ( to 990 MHz ) - repaired-
- one more agilent 3 channel power supply -repaired-
- An Agilent LRC bridge ... still working on this one
the RF generator had a burned out transformer. very strange. there was short in a wiring harness. i found a transformer on ebay for a slightly different machine ( but same series ) , checking the service manuals they looked the same ( same voltages ) . works fine
the 3 channel supply had a a brain fault : it powers up , beeps, does display test and reboots. endlessly. turns out it memory ( flash chip was corrupted ) so i cloned the firmware from the one i already had. works fine now .
THe LRC bridge had a shot input ranger ( analog mulitplexer ). there is still something wrong with the output as well. it gives fixed amplitude while it should be ranging...
very hard to troubleshoot without schematics... 4263B ... even schematics for an A would work ( same motherboard, different processor. ) but they seem to be made out of unobtainium ...
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Living in an apartment with no garage, I have no space for a office/lab, the wife does not like to see all the equipment plus cables, plus everything.
So I had to modified a computer furniture as my "lab" so when I finish working I just close the doors and you cannot see anything inside, the work space is not too big, but so far I'm happy with the results.
Attached is a picture when the mess formed when working, and a download from internet when the furniture is closed.
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@ free_electron, OMG your setup is pure EE pron right there.
the 3 channel supply had a a brain fault : it powers up , beeps, does display test and reboots. endlessly. turns out it memory ( flash chip was corrupted ) so i cloned the firmware from the one i already had. works fine now .
^ Really nice additions. Curious, did you hardware troubleshoot the above or did it just make sense that it would be a memory issue. If HW, would you mind explaining how you identified the fault?
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Living in an apartment with no garage, I have no space for a office/lab, the wife does not like to see all the equipment plus cables, plus everything.
So I had to modified a computer furniture as my "lab" so when I finish working I just close the doors and you cannot see anything inside, the work space is not too big, but so far I'm happy with the results.
Attached is a picture when the mess formed when working, and a download from internet when the furniture is closed.
That's pretty awesome.
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I have service manuals for that beastie. Hooked up the scope and watched the reset line ... that did NOT toggle.. so it was not a hardware reset ....
Errors like that are typically caused by and addressing problem in the processor... either bad ram or bad rom ... since the rom was in a socket i tried that first.
I dumped the rom from my working supply and tried reflashing the suspect one . It failed... the eprom programmer gave an error in a certain location. So now i was sure the rom was bad. Simple 29c020 flash rom in plcc . Went to the local junkstore and got a few for 1$. Done.
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*plays "spot the rigol DS1052E" in each picture* :P
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*plays "spot the rigol DS1052E" in each picture* :P
And? How did it work out?
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found an average of 2 per page ^^
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found an average of 2 per page ^^
bow to the new chinese overlords ;D
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Hi all,
Updated video of my own electronics workshop.
Must admit, I spend a LOT of time in there.........here, sorry!
Ian.
Electronics Workshop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwbpgAeuwtg#)
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@IanJ
Nice lab , but what about winters ?
Don't you freeze your B's off
/Bingo
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Just turn on all your gear at once.
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@IanJ
Nice lab , but what about winters ?
Don't you freeze your B's off
/Bingo
No, it's mostly insulated with 40mm Kingspan/Celotex as well as having and double layer floor with membrane in between.
I have a small heater running on a thermostat which easily maintains 22degC in there with snow on the ground outside.
As I type it's 8degC outside and 23degC inside........I'm sweating....:-)
Ian.
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Nice workshop, very tidy and clean. 8c in summer? Currently it is 13C in the winter morning, and I am freezing.
My workshop is shared with the car, but the electronics side is in the bedroom next to the computer.
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Just rearranged my lab into something halfway usable, complete with mascot napping by the soldering unit.
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Here's my little helper............cutting something.
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Is that a U1241B or U1242B?
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Is that a U1241B or U1242B?
U1242B
Happy with the DC performance, AC not so much, can't seem to measure AC ripple on a DC signal. Good thing most of my measurement at my bench are DC.
Other items in pic:
Fluke 8050A, 2X my favorite meters
Rigol DS1052E digital scope, modded to 100MHz
Kenwood CS-2110 analog scope 100Mhz
1.2-20VDC 1.5A LM317 Power Supply, Made in school ~25 years ago
Spools of wire, Daughter loves to cut
Daughter 2.75 years old
Panasonic SA-HE75 stereo
Pentium 3 playing mp3's (running mpd) on floor
GW Instek SFG-1003 Function generator
Assorted projects (all over bench and shelves)
Dolly stroller (modded to transport sick dog, RIP Brodie)
Out of view:
Samsung laptop i5
Weller soldering iron WES51
Telephone
Printer, Samsung ML2010
Haier 10" HDTV
Realistic scanner PRO-2022
Samsung T240 Monitor (kinda in view)
Samsung 152N monitor
bunch of project boxes
Daughter's drawing station
Pencil sharpener, hand operated bench mounted
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You forgot the Dreamcast? ???
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You forgot the Dreamcast? ???
good eye! haven't done done any dreamcast hacking.............you missed the GBA, sigh... did a little GBA stuff.
Cheers!
Ken
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hey
Just 2 pics of my new lab workbench I've just recived the new plates , Not finish yet but have a look
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Pentium III still running fine? Color me impressed!
6 years ago i had a Pentium III PC and it broke down within a year
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Pentium III still running fine? Color me impressed!
6 years ago i had a Pentium III PC and it broke down within a year
The Pentium III was going to the junk heap from work years ago, I grabbed it and put Slackware 8 or 9 on it. I made the fan quiet by putting a resistor in series with the fan. I use it to play mp3's and whatever I get from itunes. I have mpd running on it and have a remote control working for it using lirc. I also find I'm using the serial port as a debug tool for my microcontroller projects. My main computer runs windows but I find running my music on a separate computer handy whenever I need to reboot for whatever reason.
Ken
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I have a P11 running still, with win98 and a single app, telephone logging. 2G hard drive, and a spare in the case as well. Did do a dedusting in March, due again soon.
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Let's see how this turns out... In a 500 sq/ft apartment. Both benches are moveable, the 'instrument' bench is some commercial unit that I dragged home bit by bit (yes, the work surface as well) by bicycle.
Kepco power supply
GW Instek power supply new
Instek GDS 1102A digital 100 MHz new
Instek GDS 6103C analog 100 meg new
Goldstar 9020A analog 20 MHz used
Tek CFC250 freq counter used
Tek CFG 250 signal gen used
Instek GAG 810 audio gen new
Hammond 500 W isolation new
PowerStat L116C 'Variac' used and tested for safety's sake, mine
Fluke 77 DMM this I remember waiting 'in line' to get in the 80s @ Crawford
Agilent U1251A
Duoyi LCR meter some 'brand X' but it agrees almost to the last digit every time with the Agilent, close enough for me
uCurrent
WES 51 Weller, and yes, for the eagle-eyed, there are two more in boxes brand new. blowout pricing. Lots of TI, Motorola, misc data books. A 'first edition' of Art, I'm still waiting for #3, and like many others there are three or 4, or some odd number of projects under way.
and all this so I can make LEDs blink, speakers shriek, goofy Xmas gifts, and glow-in the dark skulls...
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Wow, lot's of stuff in 500sq.f. I see an rp electronics bag, I was just there a week ago. You must be in the Vancouver area.
Ken
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RP you bet; that's why I left the bag and a couple other evidence markers in the shots. I prefer Main Electronics because they have 'attitude,' seldom shop at Lee's (but they do stock inductors), hit RP once in a while, rarely Interior. Jameco about once or twice a year and only if I'm ordering 100 555 @ once to make the shipping make sense.
Simpson 464 died on someone else, then somebody did a botched job (even by my amateur standing) repair job, and I'm still looking for just one front panel jack that 'looks' the same. Wish me luck. It did however come with the original paper tube that shields the 'D' cell batteries, and the manual/schematic.
Who needs a bedroom? And the kitchen works well for heat-gun and hot snot.
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I'm still looking for just one front panel jack that 'looks' the same. Wish me luck.
Change all the panel jacks and be done with it. :)
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Hi, i'm new here. I collect measurement stuff. Not everything is in my lab because it is to small ( or as some folks say, i have to much gear) most things I got for free but in non working condition or not used for 25 years or so.
Most things are HP, Tek, Philips, General Radio and Fluke
I have my own hobby calibration lab ( fluke 332 and some other models, guildline standard cells, two KV deviders, resistance and capacitance standards from ESI and GR)
scopes ( about 15 or so)
Multimeters ( over 30, from analog electrometers tot 7,5 digit, from uA to petaOhm)
VNA's ( 3) SA's (3 and a 4th but defect one on the way)
Bridges ( GR1620, GR1650, GR1608, TF1313, HP4260)
Counters, Time standards, curvetracer, funtion, pulse and RF generators.
I love to measure components and design instruments for micromeasurements like fA, uOhm ect. or calibration.
(http://www.pa4tim.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/shack032012raam.jpg)
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Welcome to the forum! Very nice collection.
Edit: Nice stuff on your site. Capacitor testing info was very intreresting.
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Hi PA4TIM
Welcome from me to ;-)
Blackdog
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candy store :)
welcome
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Bloody hell PA4TIM. That's a nice workshop and nice photo.
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I figured out how to stitch photos into a panorama today...here's mine.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-maestros/8045441813/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-maestros/8045441813/#)
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I figured out how to stitch photos into a panorama today...here's mine.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-maestros/8045441813/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-maestros/8045441813/#)
Beautiful.
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I figured out how to stitch photos into a panorama today...here's mine.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-maestros/8045441813/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-maestros/8045441813/#)
Very nice! Funny, I was thinking of making a panorama photo of my lab too this weekend (I shoot a lot of photography in this format) . Another convert to Rigol oscilloscopes? I see you also have some nice older analog models..
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I figured out how to stitch photos into a panorama today...here's mine.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-maestros/8045441813/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the-maestros/8045441813/#)
Very nice! Funny, I was thinking of making a panorama photo of my lab too this weekend (I shoot a lot of photography in this format) . Another convert to Rigol oscilloscopes? I see you also have some nice older analog models..
The Rigol rules for low frequencies, and I like the fact that I can leave it on and not worry about CRT wear. Easy connectivity for remote screen shots, pre-trigger memory, digital filter, and built-in crude, but usable measurements and FFT make it a fantastic tool and value. The fan noise and combined vertical controls for the two channels are annoying so you just know that some day it will be gone, but the analog scopes are keepers. The trigger in the Tek 2467 is amazing--I can get a stable display on a 1GHz signal with no effort.
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I'll take a better picture at the week end once it's tidy :-[
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PA4TIM, Now this is what you call a lab, my radio shack keeps getting attacked by my Atilla the hen , then I can't find anything , currently lost is a pair of large VU meters I need, god knows where she's put them, should I take out an injunction on her not to be allowed in there.
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She who must be obate does not enter my lab. She stops at the doorpost because she does not want iron particles or pieces of wire in her sock or feet. Downsite is, I must clean it self.
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I'll take a better picture at the week end once it's tidy :-[
Doesn't matter, i like your equipment ;D
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Thank you nothing fancy here
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Here's the place where my journey into electronics started...
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In the radio Ham world where I'm totally happy most of the really quality equipment comes from Germany, quality is second to none,and lasts forever, I have a old German receiver solid piece of equipment.
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Just found this forum and this discussion. Some great workbenches here.
I started out with my first workbench in a walk-in closet when I still lived at home with my parents around 45 years ago. I still have my first meter (Simpson 260) from back then. Here's my current electronics bench set-up (top photo). It's been evolving more over the last 20 years or so.
I do all the woodworking and metalworking out in a septate shop (bottom) as the sawdust would really be a problem.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/workbenches.jpg)
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Hey! First post!
Just found EEV blog this weekend and WOW.. thanks for getting me going again! Wish this had been around when I was slogging through uni!!
Well this is my workshop and "mobile workshop/tool kit"..
I work in a very large events company repairing and maintaining anything that can be related.. from LED Screens, to robotic lighting, to control systems, to large 7KW search lights to broadcast TV equipment (also head engineer of an OB truck). etc etc etc..
I have a really nice, big workshop with lots of room and all for me! Its just lacking in a few simple things but I make do with what I have... and my degree wasnt exactly a good one and I really wasnt "into it" at the time so most of my repair work is educated guessing..
BUT this blog/youtube channel is really making me sit up and want to get using all that endless maths I did at uni!!
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my home of old scopes
(http://www.wellenkino.de/tek1.jpg)
(http://www.wellenkino.de/585A/2.jpg)
(http://www.wellenkino.de/555/555-2.jpg)
greetings
Martin
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Wow, Do not now what else to say, think I'm in love ith your lab :)
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I think Martin what you need is a few more scopes in there :)), and wow what a lab, i'd be quite for months in there.
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This is my lab. I'm currently living in a very small apartment, so that's a massive amount of my space right there. The electronics used to occupy a lot less space when I first moved in, but it's been slowly expading over the years...
Hopefully I'll be moving into a larger apartment/house within a year, so I can get some more space.
The HP 1631D Logic Analyzer, HP 54201D scope, the Iwatsu SS-7611 scope, PACE desoldering iron and the extra monitor are stuff my university was throwing away, so I saved them. The rest is stuff I've been buying over last couple of years.
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The HP 1631D Logic Analyzer, HP 54201D scope, the Iwatsu SS-7611 scope, PACE desoldering iron and the extra monitor are stuff my university was throwing away, so I saved them
You and Dave are making me jealous - never had that luck dumpster diving here. :( If your university is always like that - please consider opening a small EEVBlog shop with all those gems.
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I am a messy one, oh well...
You and me both; my 'bench' is currently split between the desk in the study, where stuff gets built, and the living room floor where stuff gets fiddled with (because the logic analyser and scope don't really fit on the desk...) I am thinking about sorting out a proper workbench in the garage, once I tidy it out a bit!
Hey, i noticed you have a LEADER scope, by any chance is it a 8040 too? I have one that looks exactly the same as your one?
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You and me both; my 'bench' is currently split between the desk in the study, where stuff gets built, and the living room floor where stuff gets fiddled with (because the logic analyser and scope don't really fit on the desk...) I am thinking about sorting out a proper workbench in the garage, once I tidy it out a bit!
Hey, i noticed you have a LEADER scope, by any chance is it a 8040 too? I have one that looks exactly the same as your one?
Mine's actually branded Kenwood, as it happens -- it wasn't until I saw your photo recently that I realised it was almost certainly built for them by someone else! I think mine is a model below yours; it looks absolutely identical, but it's a 20MHz or 25MHz machine (I forget exactly, but the model number is CS-4025)
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Awesome. Mine's a 40megger and yours is a 25megger. The lovely thing about these scopes is that it goes down to 1mV/div. ^-^
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My Workstation. The workshop is too cold to go into right now. Love the -1 degree Celsius temperature in the midwest!
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The minimalistic approach:
(the good thing when you don't live in US or Canada is that you don't have to up your bench ;) )
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This is my working space
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This is my working space
Is your last name Williams by chance?
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No. I don't get it, is that a joke about me being messy?
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This is my working space
That looks like my desk when I start working on a project.
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No. I don't get it, is that a joke about me being messy?
It's a Jim Williams reference. I'm not insulting you.
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No. I don't get it, is that a joke about me being messy?
It's a Jim Williams reference. I'm not insulting you.
You're not the only one. A clean desk is the sign of a sick mind.
Actually, I was planning on cleaning up my place today. Looking at some of the workbenches, I might settle for removing just the 'dead soldiers' on the bench. ;)
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A clean desk is the sign of a sick mind.
LOL - but in all honesty - I think different people work in different ways. But if that was true, I'm only partially sick.
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Here's mine: http://everist.org/pics/workshop/20121129_workshop.htm (http://everist.org/pics/workshop/20121129_workshop.htm)
There are other areas too, but they are far too messy to show.
Space - it's never enough.
Till recently most of that electronics area was still wedged full of building materials. Now I'm finally starting to get it set up for its original purpose. Very satisfying.
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Here's mine: http://everist.org/pics/workshop/20121129_workshop.htm (http://everist.org/pics/workshop/20121129_workshop.htm)
There are other areas too, but they are far too messy to show.
Space - it's never enough.
Till recently most of that electronics area was still wedged full of building materials. Now I'm finally starting to get it set up for its original purpose. Very satisfying.
Very nice!
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I found that using twist ties (wrapped around like a snake, not twisted, 300 for 1$) on test leads and PSU connections works wonders for workplace organization. Takes 2 seconds and prevents a tumbleweed from growing on your bench. Very nice if you use 2+ power supplies and multimeter on a breadboard. I got frustrated when I realize my o-scope probes were under a mound of wires.
I feel that cleaning my bench up kind of improves my performance. I get distracted from what I am doing so when I come back to it I can often have a new insight into the problem. maybe its just add
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Here's mine: http://everist.org/pics/workshop/20121129_workshop.htm (http://everist.org/pics/workshop/20121129_workshop.htm)
There are other areas too, but they are far too messy to show.
Space - it's never enough.
Till recently most of that electronics area was still wedged full of building materials. Now I'm finally starting to get it set up for its original purpose. Very satisfying.
....I like that one! A lot of space and tools you could need.
Looks pretty mechanics/EE mixed there https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_smile_thumbsup.gif (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/icon_smile_thumbsup.gif)
For mechanics I have a place nearby where my brother also stores and used the stuff for automotive repairs and so on. My Electronics stuff mostly is in my backpack and stored in boxes, as I don't have the space for a dedicated workshop hear at my room and work in the field mostly.
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Here's mine: http://everist.org/pics/workshop/20121129_workshop.htm (http://everist.org/pics/workshop/20121129_workshop.htm)
There are other areas too, but they are far too messy to show.
Space - it's never enough.
Till recently most of that electronics area was still wedged full of building materials. Now I'm finally starting to get it set up for its original purpose. Very satisfying.
Is that a vacuum chamber sitting in the middle of your workshop?
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Is that a vacuum chamber sitting in the middle of your workshop?
Yeah. Currently under construction. That whole cluster of gear in the middle of the room, and the rack with the incomplete home-made tiled panels at the top, is all one project. It has a long way to go yet before it even holds a vacuum. Plus there's all the other gear to integrate. HP-IB, sigh... Oh God, Octal numbers. Why didn't Hex occur to those guys?
The purpose is to potter around with plasma. Various intended experiments related to 'Electric Universe' stuff, testing some ideas for possible plasma art constructions, etc. Perhaps a little dabbling in Fusors too, why not?
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That explains why i see a tesla coil ;)
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That explains why i see a tesla coil ;)
But you don't! The thing with the metal donut and rings is a regulated DC supply. Internally it drives the primary of a HV Litz-wound transformer with a HF sine wave, then the secondary HV is fed into that stack - which is a push-pull diode-capacitor ladder. Plus one big high voltage sensing resistor.
Once the HV AC at the base punched through a 1cm thick perspex mounting plate where it feeds through the metal case!
Final output can be varied from zero up to 200KV *DC*, at 1 mA load. Breakdown distance in air is about 30 to 40 cm at 200KV. Just a bit less than the donut to base distance. And yes, it does survive arc-over. Makes a very loud bang and a fat blue, momentary arc. Demonstrating with a cable earthed the the base, and attached to an electrode on the end of a loooong insulating rod is a lot of fun. Interesting transient effects too - for instance with the earth cable having a loop on the ground, the current pulse punched through the insulation on the wire at the loop. It wanted to go the shortest way 'home', screw all that inductance in a few inches of wire loop.
So far, no one been zapped by it, but I think there'd be a good chance of dying if it did get you.
As it is I do not power it up inside the workshop, only outside and in very controlled circumstances. For use inside I will be constructing a stand for it, with a spherical or cylindrical Faraday cage around it. For safety of humans and cats, and to avoid EMP-killing other equipment. Considering it will be a few feet from stuff with input circuits that die if exposed to more than +/- 2V, it's going to have to be a really good Faraday cage, and no arc-overs ever allowed.
A wish I had a really big short-circuit rated impulse capacitor rated to 200KV. Could make a kick-arse can crusher. Though I think the neighbors would complain about all their electronics dying from the EMP.
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Not a tesla coil then ... :'( Could pass off as one though ::) Beautiful bits of kits though :-+
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The purpose is to potter around with plasma. Various intended experiments related to 'Electric Universe' stuff, testing some ideas for possible plasma art constructions, etc. Perhaps a little dabbling in Fusors too, why not?
Oh! I though you were making a process chamber to create your own ICs :o
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Oh! I though you were making a process chamber to create your own ICs :o
Hey, that's another good idea for a cover story!
Actually it was gifted to me by people who had built it to experiment with ion implantation. But only to produce pretty surface colors, not semiconductor junctions.
The result was the inside surface was a mess. In trying to clean it up I discovered that it's much harder to polish stainless steel than I'd expected. Especially inside a cylinder and when like an idiot you begin with far too coarse a grit. Results were disappointing, but good enough I hope. I'll never be achieving very good vacuum in this chamber anyway, since it has rubber seals as opposed to copper seals. So the thing can't be baked out much.
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Wow, Do not now what else to say, think I'm in love ith your lab :)
thank you :)
it`s more a domestic studio, to clean an old triple nickel is the work of a week, to repair him only some hours...
may be you can help me ! I have a little milli-Ohm-Meter from Philips NL and need some info and the application.
see http://www.wellenkino.de/philips1/ (http://www.wellenkino.de/philips1/)
it may be rare, the serial No is 74. works correctly, but how to make the test wires? (= 4 wires teechnology)
About scopes: The old 585A there on the computer table is the No 15 made in Heerenveen, ser. = 700 015.
Now restorated, full working. A HiFi Fan will die when he see what I have plugged there... all 6dJ8 are swapped with nos CV2493 from Mullard.
Now I have a 535A on this table, a longer time restoration, there was missing parts. My second 535A ... 8)
Between Christmas and new year I have a highlight restoration here: 575 (Transistor Curve Tracer), R565 this is the greatfully 10MHz Dual Beam, and a second 555 (the triple Nickel scope, 1kW)
the christmas picture.
(http://www.wellenkino.de/christmas.jpg)
greetings
Martin
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If you have a dutch manual I can translate it. 3 options,
it is shielded 2 wire. The bnc outer shell must be connected to each other and to ground
3 wire, the bnc shells are connected and carry a guard voltage. So the one bnc sources and the other one senses. The cableshield guards the dut holder. But I think that is to modern for this meter. GR bridges use often 3 wire.
4 wire., the bnc shells could be connected but not always one sources current the other is sense.
Test: connect a currentmeter between source bnc center and the same bnc outer shell. If there is current you probably have a 4 wire source. If you apply a small current/voltage to the sense connector centre bnc and its outer shell and the meter reacts is will be 4 wires.
If not Connect the ampmeter between the centres of both bncs. if there is a current flow and the outer shells are at ground level the setup is shielded two wire. If the potential on the outershell of the sense bnc (and possible also the source) is equal to that of the centre source bnc it could be guarded three wire.
I think it will be shielded 2 wire.
The 555 and 556 are great, in all ways, I have a 576 curvetracer
I have two 535A (one incomplete, the other stopped working), a 545B, 543B (both with the known HV transformer problem), a as new looking and working 547 with 14 different plugins, Also a 132 that I most times use for my 1S1, 1S2 or O plugin coupled to a 7603.
Next week I get a 99% working Fairchild 777, very rare scope, (and an old Philips GM scope an other 545B also with HV problem, but it was all or nothing. Those will be free to collect for someone who wants, I do not need them) I can not find info about the 777
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thank you :)
No I have no papers from the Philips. See the link in my last posting for some pictures,
it works not with DC, there is a very small wave and a frequency selective Amplifier.
The both shildings must be seperate up to the test R. The left BNC is output, the right input.
I only want to know how the original test wires are made.
I have no S Plugin, so I have to trust my 7844 opt.78 for fast waves.
greetings
Martin
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I can not read the kabel. Icoma was the Industrial COmponents and MAterials department from Philips. Maybe you can find some more. There is a Dutch forum with some people that know a lot about old Philips stuff. Gloeidraad is it called.
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Hartelijk dank voor de linkjes :)
Martin
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Hello Folks, This is a great thread. I'm in awe looking at some of these workbenches that I have seen here. My problem was ... a too small workbench, actually, it wasn't that the table was to small....in reality, I'm a slob and I needed more space for my stuff :-DD
My main interest is learning about motor drives, such as ac and dc servo drives, as well as Vfd's. But, I'm also getting the bug to work on older radios and tube amps...we'll see how that goes.
Anyway, here is a couple shots of my just completed bench...
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f109/slowtwitch/PC040001.jpg)
The areas with the cross members, under the table, are where the future drawer inserts will be installed.
It measures 16 feet long, with a 5 foot long "L" extension. It will really take some doing to keep it uncluttered.
and here is a shot of my test equipment. I bought the function generator and oscilloscope on Ebay really cheap. The power supplies and meters were acquired through out the many years of tinkering. It may not be the newest and greatest, but, it's all I need ....for now.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f109/slowtwitch/PC040004.jpg)
left to right.... HP 20 volt dc supply, SDI 50 volt dc supply, BK precision multimeter and function gen. Gould 20mhz. scope. On top of it is my computer system, a Lenovo laptop. The clamp on meter on top of the table is an older Amprobe. My handheld meter is an older Sperry, but it works great. The stereo and time clock were headed for the dumpster, but, i gave them a new life :D
Lastly, here is my what I like to work on.....
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f109/slowtwitch/DSCN3739.jpg)
This is the back of my cnc lathe conversion.
and here is the front...
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f109/slowtwitch/DSCN3735.jpg)
I do have a CNC mill, but, no recent picture of it. You may see a bit of it behind my newly built tool rack.
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f109/slowtwitch/PB090011.jpg)
That's it for now. Hope to contribute more in the future.
take care
pete
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Welcome fellow machinist. :) nice looking shop.
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hmmm . i like the lcd wallmount idea.... gonna go look for something like that ...
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My wireless corner.
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Hi all,
Just thought I'd update on my shed, well at least one corner of it.
Added some additional lighting and a shelf big enough for all my test gear. More room to play now!
Ian.
(http://www.ianjohnston.com/content/images/stories/IanJ/ElecWorkshop/wshopDec2012.jpg)
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Nicely clipped power cables attached neatly to the walls.
Horrifying.
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Love this thread...But...
I'm still not sold on having all your equipment so high up above the bench. It seems like most of you have your PS and scopes 12-14-18" above the bench where your circuit would be. Seems like a lot of looking up and down, arms starched out to adjust the scope, PS. look back down again, look back up...ect.....
It seems to me - that you want your scope, and most use PS on the bench - right in a short throw of the circuit your working with. At the same level of what your working on.
Sure - up on a shelf gets them out of the way - but I think if you look at most work benches - we really only need a 12x12" area to work in for the actually PCB/breadboard - the rest gets filled up with tools. Outside of that I keep a laptop, a scope, my PS ect.....
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Yeah, I feel the same way. I like to work with everything right in front of me, circuits just inches from PS, scope, etc.
What this means is that the bench has to be deep enough for testgear at the back, work area in front. But most people seem to build quite narrow benches... strange.
The other thing I do is have test gear in 19" racks, that have wheels. So I can wheel up whichever set of gear I need next to the bench at the time. Not that there's ever the *right* combination of gear in one rack when I want it. :(
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The problem is when you have more stuff then avarage and you want everything on table level near by your project you need veeeeeeerrrrryyyy large projects ::)
I have it spread out over 6 meter from table-hight to about 1 meter above the table. And my usable bench part ( for soldering ect) is about a meter long so i often need long wires or move the project to the small space before the gear.
Then I have a rack that is about 2 meter high and 2 wide and 1 meter deep that is stuffed with calibration gear agains the other wall. The rest is used for cabinets with parts, small instruments, manuals, standards ect. and two scoop mobiles, one with a 54 and HP waveanalyser and the other as temporary worktable so I can turn a patient around without lifting it.
So impossible to get it all on the bench in close range.
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I'm still not sold on having all your equipment so high up above the bench. It seems like most of you have your PS and scopes 12-14-18" above the bench where your circuit would be. Seems like a lot of looking up and down, arms starched out to adjust the scope, PS. look back down again, look back up...ect.....
My equipment shelf is 15" above the bench height, which means my gear is not far off eye level. You get used to it.......you get used to glancing up to view/adjust. It's better for me as it means my test equipment rarely get's moved.
Below a pic from 1984 when I worked in a workshop building bespoke computers for the oil industry (that's me on the right foreground). You can see a portable scope trolley in the foreground, all the test gear was brought to the benches from a storage area. To be fair, we all got used to that method and it's was fine also.
Hmmm, that workshop was pretty messy eh!
Actually, my biggest hurdle these days is having old eyes!........with my distance specs on I see jack-shit close up, and with them off I see jack-shit across the room............!
Ian.
(http://www.ianjohnston.com/Rigserv.jpg)
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Nothing fancy in here, it's all old most of it is UK 2013 all of it will be UK, good quality some of it is over 30 Years old and still working well, as a radio amateur it does all I want it to do and some.
I like my equipment and my hobby
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I posted a build thread on here for this bench a while ago, but never got round to posting any pictures during the build. Here's one of it completed, though. :)
(http://i.imgur.com/aiQGzl.jpg)
Quite a small workspace. I don't have much test gear - an old Hitachi scope which was kindly donated to me, a Maplin bench power supply and a Uni-T multimeter. Currently building a function generator. :)
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I recently purchased some new test gear and got around to getting a bigger work bench. This is the final setup:
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This is my workbench at work. The company owns the PC, two power supplies at right, Weller soldering station, Rigol scope and all the handheld multimeters. The rest is mine, half of that is good and working, rest is waiting for repairs and adjustments or parts as is the case of the Tesla millivoltmeter which is missing the crucial part - active probe. Only two instruments are calibrated right now, one is the new Agilent U1232A and the other is resitance decade (top left) which I won pretty cheaply in local auction. Other noteworthy thing is the lamp modified for LED, it runs neutral colored Bridgelux at about 18 W, much better than the usual CCFL.
(http://i.imgur.com/eQqo2h.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/eQqo2.jpg)
We just recently moved the electronics section after 4 years to new, larger building. In the old room we had just basic tables which I didn't like so much so I proposed some changes to the shelves as I was inspired by the then new Dave's lab. It's not exactly as I wanted, the shelves aren't deep enough for my old equipment but they are designed to fit the smaller size Tesla meters as you can see :D On the other side of room there are six more of these tables, back to back, these standalone doesn't look that nice from the other side.
See the whole album here: http://imgur.com/a/Q1CUQ (http://imgur.com/a/Q1CUQ). You can click on top right corner of the image and select full resolution.
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thats a wp120 connected to the wd1 by any chance? if it is could you do a cold water test if its can maintain the set temp? like the jbc video somewhere on this forum, the wrmp cant with the rt11 thats for sure :)
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thats a wp120 connected to the wd1 by any chance? if it is could you do a cold water test if its can maintain the set temp? like the jbc video somewhere on this forum, the wrmp cant with the rt11 thats for sure :)
WP80 and WD1, I don't want to experiment with it as it's not mine and it's rather new :) It's still 80 W so it heats up very quickly from the standby. We also have here two larger Weller stations with 80 W desoldering iron and 200 W hot air blower, it has the same WP80 pen.
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WP80 and WD1, I don't want to experiment with it as it's not mine and it's rather new :) It's still 80 W so it heats up very quickly from the standby. We also have here two larger Weller stations with 80 W desoldering iron and 200 W hot air blower, it has the same WP80 pen.
How do you like it?
I have the same, as well as a WMP, and find that the recovery time is a bit slower than I'd expect. Knee-jerk reaction is to turn it up a bit, but that tends to cook the flux off too quickly/turn it to a carmel color (rosin flux BTW).
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I have mine on 350 C all the time and using short and fat chisel tip most of the time, I think it's the LT-B. Long and thin tips have problems heating up any bigger components but not this one and it's pretty universal, good enough down to 1206 and similar. Also you have to make sure that the tip contact area is clean and smooth as possible, it's not that big and all the heat goes through it. I didn't measure the tip temperature but the display always stays rock solid. Only time it goes a bit low is when you change tips on the desoldering iron but that one also has much higher mass and therefore thermal capacity. For large connectors or ground fills it's good to turn it up a bit but it's not usually necessary.
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trought the pc software from my wd1m looks like it streams real time data not just that "fixed on the unit's lcd" + i have no idea why they flagged the unit with upgradable firmware... you can download the tool for it but there is no firmware for it.. as for the test what i asked, it would be a comparison for me to try and buy a wp120 for this unit or buy a jbc with 2-3 outputs next time, after initial issues with this one now im statisfied with it, the rt11 on this wrmp should be putting out 55watts however on the cold water test its goes down to 110celsius and it stays there, only the tip submerged for about 5-7mm
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I have mine on 350 C all the time and using short and fat chisel tip most of the time, I think it's the LT-B. Long and thin tips have problems heating up any bigger components but not this one and it's pretty universal, good enough down to 1206 and similar. Also you have to make sure that the tip contact area is clean and smooth as possible, it's not that big and all the heat goes through it. I didn't measure the tip temperature but the display always stays rock solid. Only time it goes a bit low is when you change tips on the desoldering iron but that one also has much higher mass and therefore thermal capacity. For large connectors or ground fills it's good to turn it up a bit but it's not usually necessary.
Thanks. :)
It's the smaller iron that's giving me fits (WMP), but as you say, it seems to be due to the very small mass of the tips (~50% or less of an equivalent LT series regarding mass) that's causing my issues.
Seems I'll just have to stop being lazy and swap irons more often. :o :P
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My bench and all associated areas around it always look like a mess. I have far too many projects going on at any one time to actually put everything away. About every 6 months I'll clean everything up and within a week it's already a mess. Somehow I still manage to get stuff done......and I always know where everything is :)
Jeff
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About every 6 months I'll clean everything up and within a week it's already a mess. Somehow I still manage to get stuff done......and I always know where everything is :)
JMHO, but that's all that really matters. ;) Slobs Unite! >:D
BTW, recently departed Bob Pease and Jim Williams were both in this category, so there has been, and I'm sure still is, some excellent company. :)
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About every 6 months I'll clean everything up and within a week it's already a mess. Somehow I still manage to get stuff done......and I always know where everything is :)
JMHO, but that's all that really matters. ;) Slobs Unite! >:D
BTW, recently departed Bob Pease and Jim Williams were both in this category, so there has been, and I'm sure still is, some excellent company. :)
I friend of mine often reminds me that a new piece of test gear is not test gear at all. It has to have stickers on it from past calibrations a few scuffs and some dents. If the buttons, knobs or keys are all clean and neat...might as well throw it away. Moral of the story is a messy bench with messy gear is a productive bench.
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I friend of mine often reminds me that a new piece of test gear is not test gear at all. It has to have stickers on it from past calibrations a few scuffs and some dents. If the buttons, knobs or keys are all clean and neat...might as well throw it away. Moral of the story is a messy bench with messy gear is a productive bench.
I like it. :-DD
BTW, I'll take any of the zero history, unscuffed, undented gear he wants to toss any day. ;) I'll add the dents, scuffs, ... myself, given enough time. :-/O
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I friend of mine often reminds me that a new piece of test gear is not test gear at all. It has to have stickers on it from past calibrations a few scuffs and some dents. If the buttons, knobs or keys are all clean and neat...might as well throw it away. Moral of the story is a messy bench with messy gear is a productive bench.
I like it. :-DD
BTW, I'll take any of the zero history, unscuffed, undented gear he wants to toss any day. ;) I'll add the dents, scuffs, ... myself, given enough time. :-/O
I get his point, but all of my old test gear looks close to new. He's just saying it should be used...not dusted off daily. So I avoid dusting :)
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It is like with art. Normal people call it dirt. Connoisseurs call it patina and character.
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(http://www.wellenkino.de/swob/swob.jpg)
This is a full extendet Rohde+Schwarz SWOB III, a 90 pounds cold sweeper test unit, working up to 1,2GHz :)
I use it for IF coils and so on. Upside a HF/UHF mV-Meter made by Kathrein.
greetings
Martin
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Its maybee my eyes that are old, but is there a cassette player on the shelves there?
Looks like one Akai and one Onkyo tape deck.
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Finally got to it. Here's my home lab:
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I have to get a Scopemobile.
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I have to get a Scopemobile.
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They are quite handy for the heavier analog scopes. Just got that one last week for $75 at ebay, including shipping :)
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The best scope mobils are from HP, they can load much more then the Tek scope mobils.
Tek 556 on a HP
(http://www.wellenkino.de/556/556.jpg)
I am searching for the original scope mobile for this Tek, model = 205
greetings
Martin
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Mainframe scopes are one of the coolest looking piece of equipment.
I don't need one. I don't really have the room for one. But I want one.
I should totally just pick up a guaranteed not working unit on the cheap and stick it in the corner for the fung-shuie.
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Mine lives in a box, just because it is so long and bulky.
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I got 3 tekmobiles. One under my 547, that is the beautifull Scope-mobile that was designed in 1949 by Dick Rhiger to carry the Tek 511. There is a picture on this page, http://www.acms.org.au/museum/tektronix/tektronix.shtml (http://www.acms.org.au/museum/tektronix/tektronix.shtml) ( I still must make one from my own ) a 201A for my 7704 and a 205 as a spare
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Mainframe scopes are one of the coolest looking piece of equipment.
I don't need one. I don't really have the room for one. But I want one.
I should totally just pick up a guaranteed not working unit on the cheap and stick it in the corner for the fung-shuie.
Or fix it and then put it in the corner. ;)
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The problem is I don't know what I would realistically use it for besides looking cool.
But you are right. I'd have to get a REALLY broken one or it would bother me till I fixed it. Too bad it wouldn't make a very good fish tank.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4819904940_0847bdd3cf_z.jpg)
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My current science desk, as it is called:
(http://i.imgur.com/SlKwcEE.jpg)
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After 5 years I still don't have tons of equipment but it works.
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Here's two of my desks. The first one is where I typically troubleshoot. The second one is where I typically build. There are several other places on this floor but they are not that interesting, mostly piles of 7000 plugins and extra oscilloscopes.
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I just finished up building a servo drive for the spindle on my Monarch 10ee lathe. After cleaning up after that project, I took a pic of my bench while you can actually see it. I'm currently in a trailer so space is pretty limited, leading to the stacking. I have a lot of other equipment stashed around the trailer that I don't use that often or is small and portable due to the lack of space on the bench. It also pretty much limits me to 1 project at a time. I've always been a big Tek fan and have gathered up a few 7000 series scopes all fitted with different plugins so I don't have to swap them out often. The 7844 dual beam scope is my favorite and the one I normally use, but swapped around the curve tracer setup from the 7704 when I had a bunch of transistors to go thru. I custom made the adapter in the 7CT1N so I could quickly switch between 2 transistors to make matching a lot easier. No Rigol here ;), and the obligitory Fluke 87V is on my bench at work along with a Hantek DSO-1200. The soldering/desoldering equipment is on an old CRT monitor arm which keeps it above the usual piles of stuff on the bench and is easily retracted and swung out of the way when not in use. My tools, components and misc. junk I've accumulated are also stashed all over the trailer and in a nearby storage unit I rent. Clearly, I currently live alone ;D
For the fellow ham operators, my HF rig is an Icom 756 Pro II controlled via Ham Radio Deluxe feeding a National NCL-2000 into the Ameritron ATR-30. I'm currently using an MFJ-1796 vertical covering 40-6 meters. Sadly, no room for 80 meters here :(. For VHF/UHF operation I've got a Yaesu FT-7800 feeding an MFJ-1768 2m/70cm beam.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/RatGuru/E-Bench/IMG_5578_Thumb_zpsa50c2db0.jpg) (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/RatGuru/E-Bench/IMG_5578_zps32c5d66c.jpg)
For the machinists on the forum, here's a pic of the spindle drive guts and control box:
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/RatGuru/E-Bench/IMG_5530_zps23d6e9bb.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/RatGuru/E-Bench/IMG_5530_Thumb_zps4ce32b65.jpg)
It's based on a Mitsubishi 3.5kw MR-H general purpose servo drive and HC-SF 3k motor. I've incorporated independent forward/reverse speeds and prox. switches for ELSR stops. Many thanks to Macona on the Practical Machinist board for the inspiration.
I also have a small lathe, drill press, 4x6 bandsaw, drill grinder, tool & cutter grinder, and pedestal grinder in one of the bedrooms:
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/RatGuru/E-Bench/IMG_2722_zps47b67b9a.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/RatGuru/E-Bench/IMG_2722_Thumb_zpsb852204e.jpg) (http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/RatGuru/E-Bench/IMG_2724_zps240cd1e5.jpg)
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i89/RatGuru/E-Bench/IMG_2724_Thumb_zpsd27be48a.jpg)
There's a couple of semi-trailer doors on the floor to protect the carpet, distribute the weight, and make moving things around a lot easier. My main shop is down at my brother's farm about an hour away so this allows me to get some stuff done while I'm at home.
73's
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@ Marc M.
Welcome fellow machinist, very nice setup there :-+. I post a fair amount of electronics related machining stuff on here you may find interesting.
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(http://www.pa4tim.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/laboverzicht.jpg)
(http://www.pa4tim.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/vanafRFrek.jpg)
It took me a few months to rearange and reconnect everything.
All instruments are now grouped and more ergonomic placed
The calibrators
(http://www.pa4tim.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/calibratorek.jpg)
RF stuff, SA, 2x VNA, curvetracer, signal generator, noise analyser, counters and above that standard resistors, a 7,5 digit meter to monitor the calibrators behind the Tek 547 and some scope calibrators
(http://www.pa4tim.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/RFrek.jpg)
(http://www.pa4tim.nl/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/shack032012museum.jpg)
My small museum
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Holy shitballs
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That's your own personal lab?
I have a couple of scopes, a DMM and a dozen computers.
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Holy shitballs
I don't even know what that means and I agree. :) That is a hell of a lab.
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A lab like that can be quite dangerous. It's easy to go without food or water for too long without realizing it and to lose consciousness.
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A lab like that can be quite dangerous. It's easy to go without food or water for too long without realizing it and to lose consciousness.
I wouldn't care if they find me dead in a lab like that.
Would make for a decent eulogy: "He died doing what he loved"
Rather than the more likely obituary..
"He died doing a Chinese hooker."
Anyway....
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A lab like that can be quite dangerous. It's easy to go without food or water for too long without realizing it and to lose consciousness.
I wouldn't care if they find me dead in a lab like that.
Would make for a decent eulogy: "He died doing what he loved"
Rather than the more likely obituary..
"He died doing a Chinese hooker."
Anyway....
:-DD :-DD :-DD
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Way to make a lot of use out of a small space. The thing that cracks me up about that much equipment are all the power strips. I know as I accumulate gear in my home lab, I keep on having to add more and more nested power strips to plug everything in. Never-mind the fact that they all ultimately go back to just one 20A socket :) It's starting to look like those old Christmas light cable horror stories :)
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i can't really compete with you guys, but anyways here's my tinker-corner. I'll have to expand it soon though. I still have quite a bit of gear on my to buy list and i'm running out of space.
PS.: I thought about putting away the teacup, but then figured, that would make it unauthentic. Same goes for cleaning up to much.
Is there a way to embed the attached pictures into the post?
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"Tinker-corner". I like it :-+
PS.: I thought about putting away the teacup, but then figured, that would make it unauthentic. Same goes for cleaning up to much.
Mine's like that too. My workbench was last "clean" when I built it. Now, a cup of day-old coffee and a random pile of components, wire bits and "what the hell is this probe connected to" is the norm.
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Way to make a lot of use out of a small space. The thing that cracks me up about that much equipment are all the power strips. I know as I accumulate gear in my home lab, I keep on having to add more and more nested power strips to plug everything in. Never-mind the fact that they all ultimately go back to just one 20A socket :) It's starting to look like those old Christmas light cable horror stories :)
All those contacts on the ceiling are divided over 6 wall sockets. The rail on the ceiling is using 2 wall sockets. The first 6 and last 4 are permanent on for ovenised things or for intance a battery charger.
The rest of that rail is switchable by 2 switches in the middle next to the switch that turns on the lights. There is a 2X battery back and on one is a led with LDR that switches on at night or if I make a mistake and the fuse goes out and I have to put a way somethinkg like my solderiron and find my way in the dark (i am disabled and since i hurt my self in such a case while falling over stuff on the ground a friend made this small smps current source feed ledlamp for me because he had just made one for himself also after falling. I made the LDR detector for it.) there is a surge arrester on that ceiling powerrail.
The calibrators are on their own wallsocket through a heavy duty splitter with surgearrester ( professional thing that ( in 1988, in my first job) we sold for protecting expensive computer gear.
The standards that are permanent on ( a 10V homebuild, a 10V Fluke, timestandards ect are behind a UPS, the Guildline cabinet has a small 12V battery that is charged by a small solarpannel charger.
The RF gear is on the other wall socket and also has a cetral switch. The last wall socket feeds a heavy duty splitter with 2.5 mm^2 cable. I use that to power up things like the 547 or a current hungry thing while testing/repairing.
There are two variacs ( 6 and 8A) one i build in a 19" cabinet next to my desk. It also has an isolation transformer and switchable series lightbulb. ( and a 0-1200VDC powersupply) on my desk is a Tek 6901 isoltator and ground fault and detector. Still looking for a manual of that. I use both to flood the thing that is under repair.
Behind the instruments are some more powersplitters.
Do not forget it is a lot of gear but it is never powered up all at the same time. Most times when repairing or building /testing cuircuits just a few multimeters, one or two scopes and often a bridge or a generator. Most gear does not use very much power.
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The rest of that rail is switchable by 2 switches in the middle next to the switch that turns on the lights. There is a 2X battery back and on one is a led with LDR that switches on at night or if I make a mistake and the fuse goes out and I have to put a way somethinkg like my solderiron and find my way in the dark (i am disabled and since i hurt my self in such a case while falling over stuff on the ground a friend made this small smps current source feed ledlamp for me because he had just made one for himself also after falling. I made the LDR detector for it.) there is a surge arrester on that ceiling powerrail.
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PA4TIM your lab got me drooling !! http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/pets/files/import/39954-dogdrool.jpg (http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/pets/files/import/39954-dogdrool.jpg)
I'm sorry to hear you have a disability; what kind is it ?
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Very nice setup gents.
Here is my messy old stuff
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im quite jealous of most of these benches im very slowly building my equipment but im a student and well food is a bit more importent than an oscilloscope or function gen atm
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Rigol 1052E, Extech EX330, Mastech 3005F, Hakko FX-888, and other fun stuff.
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Haven't seen that white board with the holes in it for a loooong time.
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Here is my little home lab!
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My home lab workbench
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Looks a bit cramped, but you're set up looks very functional. I assume that's why you have the wireless keyboard is for space.
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My lab is reasonably well equipped for hobby use but i am just missing a function gen.
I'd like to get into RF and get some gear for it, but they usually are too expensive. :(
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It's not that big, but it will do. Next upgrade would probably be a Agilent E3612A with multimeter and/or a memory and serial-decode upgrade for my scope.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10801427/P5220027.JPG)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10801427/P5220028.JPG)
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Mine is in a constant state of change and it gets cleaned twice a year. It's been over six months so here's the latest set-up.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/workbench2013.jpg)
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Now that you have that Power Designs PS it is a real lab ;D
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Steve, i love your collection of measurement gear ( and your website) I have two analog multimeters I still use, an Unigor 4P because the 50 uA scale and a Simpson 260 is sitting in my living room to test batteries or when I need to check something and are to lazy to go to the lab. Mine has a very nice leather case but I noticed you had a very nice transistortest adapter for it. Real cool. I have 5 transistortesters but never seen such an adapter. My olders transistor tester is a 1955 Philips ( Philips started making transistors at the end of 1954). The cutest a made for radio shack one that uses the DUT to form an oscillator and that makes a neonlight glow.
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Now that you have that Power Designs PS it is a real lab ;D
You can never have too many power supplies. :-DD
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/workbench2013-ps.jpg)
I actually like the Power Designs better than my HP but the HP is higher current.
PA4TIM - I thought that adapter for the Simpson was interesting when I found it. Listed with it is a booklet showing a number of different adapters they made for the Simpson 260. I used a Hickok transistor tester for a long time. Still have it and use it occasionally when I have a bunch to test. It runs on a 9 volt battery though and I really should put a power jack in it as I don't leave batteries in equipment that sits on the shelf for long periods.
FYI: Duracells consistently leak. Don't use them. I've had much better luck with Energizers.
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Well here's a few pics of my man cave.
There's a bit of everything hiding out in there.
Cheers,
Phil
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Love your style Phil! Every man cave needs an overhead crane :)
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Bridgeport, lathe, CNC mill, helicopter...... Life is good :-+
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i would gladly house in our garage a 5 axis cnc but the damn things are soo expensive....
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Here is my lab bench down in the basement (probably the nicest spot in the house ) ;).
Just cleaned it up, so a good time to take picture. Left to right:
Electronic load (TekPower 3711) on top of BK 1698 power supply, then Fluke 8840A and 8842A DMMs, HP 54645D MSO, Rigol DG1022 and finally tenma 72-3085 linear power supply. Oh, and all lighting is LED-based.
Only problem is, I am under a heating duct so space to grow up is limited.
(http://kuzyatech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/P5250034.jpg)
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It took me some time but I looked at all your workplaces. Very impressive, got a few awesome inspirations. Thank you all for sharing!
This is where I do my projects. It is small but its mine and I love it!
Power on almost everything is switchable from the PC as well (via a custom build usb relay-board). The supply and the Agilent are LAN-networked, as is the Printer-Scanner combination under the table. I have a food pedal for the vacuum pickup and a few cap-touch pedals on the floor to control my music and video playback for entertainment. Don't know what else to say.
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It took me some time but I looked at all your workplaces...
Nice and organized. I'm wondering what exactly you did to that hot air station to modify it to accommodate vacuum pick-up.
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Well mines not a lab I'm not a scientist, but here's my Radio Amateur work space
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"I'll buy you a beer if you know where this is from"
Off topic: I take that challenge. It's from the cinema for students at TU München. http://www.tu-film.vo.tu-muenchen.de/pages/view/der-tu-film. (http://www.tu-film.vo.tu-muenchen.de/pages/view/der-tu-film.)
So I guess you'll take an ICE to Arnhem (NL) for that beer? :P >:D (But yes, I'm friends with Google, so have one on me and we're even 8) )
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OK, mine.
This is the "lab" inside the house. Additionally, there is the workshop adjoining the garage in a separate building. A bit of a mess right now, so pictures maybe later...
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I posted this at the topic about keeping the workbench neat and clean. Thought it might apply here also.
When I was doing the installation of my LED lighting system I bought a Metaltech Baker Scaffold so I could work comfortably when doing work along the ceiling. When I'm not using the scaffold for that work I use it as a test bench. I plan to eventually have shelves supported by the end rails. The scaffold has four locking wheels so the test bench can be stationary or rolled to the work. There is a handhold in the scaffold floor (bench work surface) for removing the floor to change the heighth and I find that opening to be handy for quickly gathering up small parts on the benchtop. I just hold a drawer from the storage area under the opening and with a sweep of the hand the parts are in the drawer. I have attached some photos and as you can see I don't have much equipment (yet).
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I'm wondering what exactly you did to that hot air station to modify it to accommodate vacuum pick-up.
I tapped the internal power supply to switch an electronic valve I bought from ebay. That valve opens and closes the fume extractor line. When I use it as vacuum pick-up I connect the fume extractor line to the original hand actuated vacuum pick-up that came with the unit.
Off topic: I take that challenge. It's from the cinema for students at TU München. http://www.tu-film.vo.tu-muenchen.de/pages/view/der-tu-film. (http://www.tu-film.vo.tu-muenchen.de/pages/view/der-tu-film.)
So I guess you'll take an ICE to Arnhem (NL) for that beer? :P >:D (But yes, I'm friends with Google, so have one on me and we're even 8) )
Well done if you PM me your address I'll send you a very fine Bavarian beer via Mail (no kidding). Might get to you stale though ;) Or you send me a message if you happen to be in Innsbruck, Munich or Vienna.
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I tapped the internal power supply to switch an electronic valve I bought from ebay. That valve opens and closes the fume extractor line. When I use it as vacuum pick-up I connect the fume extractor line to the original hand actuated vacuum pick-up that came with the unit.
What kind of valve did you use? I'm been looking for a cheap fast acting valve for a foot-petal actuated DIY SMD vacuum tool.
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What kind of valve did you use? I'm been looking for a cheap fast acting valve for a foot-petal actuated DIY SMD vacuum tool.
Honestly I have no idea, it's been a while. I'd have to unmount my station form under the shelf and open it to have a look. I bought the valve from ebay. Any number of solenoid valves should do the trick. Worst case you have to use a few standard components and some duct-tape to make it work.
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Just ask for a standard 3/2 pneumatic valve with direct action, as you will be using it with no pilot air to drive the spool otherwise. This will have an inlet, outlet and an exhaust port. Probably you will want a 5mm. 1/4 or 1/8 inlet and outlet, though a 3mm is also available ( and will be more expensive as these traditionally are used with a multiport manifold) and will do for low flow. Coil will be typically 12VDC/24VAC and 110VDC/220VAC at around 6-9VA for these.
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Here is my (small) workbench in what-is-for-me a very tidy state - I'm testing my OCXO setup with a 1pps from a GPS module. (Yes, I know the mini-power supply on the top shelf should be better shielded or encased - it is work in progress).
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I like that big sturdy good old TTi PL-series power supply. We're still using those dual and the triple ones in the university labs. Hard to break, sturdy, and yes quite big and heavy. I considered the single output version of the newest PL series for my bench but went with an Agilent E3610A instead since it came with a free DMM.
How do you like your TTi PSU?
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Mine doubles as my and my wife's office desk... so things get put away fairly often. But here it is "now".
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Man, I just went through all 8 pages of this thread and wow... just wow. Mine is still a work in progress, in the next few weeks there will be some MAJOR changes and major overhaul...
I don't know why but the sepia tone looked great for the close up of the breadboards I'm working on. (proto of a z80 single-board computer, and also the veroboard is for an LED cube, which is slowly coming along.)
Once the changes happen I'll upload the new pics for a before/after shot!
[EDIT: re-sized the pictures so they actually fit in the thread...]
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Mine doubles as my and my wife's office desk... so things get put away fairly often. But here it is "now".
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=54900)
Why do you have a toilet seat hovering over your desk?
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Why do you have a toilet seat hovering over your desk?
LOL ... I didn't visualize that until you mentioned it ! :-DD :-DD :-DD
Btw, there is a roll of toilet paper hanging there as well that makes the whole scene complete. >:D
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Those magnifier covers are actually quite important.
If your desk is near a window the lens will start a fire if the sun moves into the right spot in the sky and there's paper under the lens.
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Well this is my little electronics corner. The old briefcase, that I used for making a "workbench", I had it since I was 15. Minus the soldering iron, it popped (in search for new one).
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Right now my workspace is shit. But we're setting up a new lab upstairs, and once that's done in a couple months... A big $20,000 ATE setup in a server rack, an actually organized workbench with a workstation and a couple monitors... Mmmmmm...
I'll have to remember this thread.
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Mine doubles as my and my wife's office desk... so things get put away fairly often. But here it is "now".
Which one of you does the 'putting away'? >:D
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Why do you have a toilet seat hovering over your desk?
For when he needs to give a flying crap about something, obviously... ;)
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This is my small home workshop which is in the loft of our terrace home which i use with my brother on electronics and other projects.
The loft space is 4.1m long, 3.2m wide at its widest point and 2m high in the middle.
(http://briandorey.com/docs/loftworkshop/header.jpg)
At one end of the room are storage trays covering the wall with hundreds of trays of resistors, capacitors, semiconductors, leds, fixing hardware and lots of other small parts.
Each side of the loft space has shelves which have more storage under each one with storage trays and boxes full of everything from computer parts to camping equipment.
One side has our Pick and Place machine with drill and milling bit drawer under the shelf and the other side has an N gauge model of the Swanage steam railway with a protective lid over to keep the dusk out and lots of odds and ends currently stored on top!
At the far end of the workshop is the main work bench which has small hand tools across the back wall on storage clips, a central work area with Metcal soldering irons and fume extraction system. The left side has all our main test equipment including a 60MHz 2Ch Oscilloscope, function generators, frequency counters, various multimeters and variable power supply. There is also a Shuttle PC which is used for development on PIC’s and Arduino.
Under this bench is our SMD oven in a sealed box with air vent which extracts the fumes outside and also a OKI air filter to use when soldering on the bench. Either side are more storage boxes with old projects and bits of wire and connectors.
Above this shelf is another storage shelf which has a hot air SMT rework station, rolls of tape, solder and heat shrink in different sizes.
Next to the access trap hatch / ladder is the CNC mill which is run using Mach 3 on an old Dell PC and small hobby lathe.
There is a 360 pano tour of the workshop on http://apexviews.co.uk/loft/ (http://apexviews.co.uk/loft/)
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Ours is a bit crowded at the moment, since we have one and a half tables and the rest is full of junk. But we're moving to the other building soon, putting all the test equipment in a rack, and we won't be bringing any of the crap the RMA guys were storing in the corner.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Es9WD5U9epU/UfvtVDOL2KI/AAAAAAAADRc/860osIQgQSs/w1566-h881-no/20130802_103217.jpg)
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Here is my corner(a room in the basement), still needs a lot of gear :-DMM
(http://s18.postimg.org/7wexgm03d/DSC04257.jpg)
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As I live in a small studio apartment set up tatami room style, I'm currently using paper boxes... XD
Currently I'm trying to find (or design) appropriate furniture to set up a permanent lab, but I think I may have to build one myself... I think the ideal would be a low table with a removable or foldable box cover.
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I like that big sturdy good old TTi PL-series power supply. We're still using those dual and the triple ones in the university labs. Hard to break, sturdy, and yes quite big and heavy. I considered the single output version of the newest PL series for my bench but went with an Agilent E3610A instead since it came with a free DMM.
How do you like your TTi PSU?
I like it very much. It was only £160 new from TTi via Test-and-Measurement (they sell superseded new stock at a discount with a 90(?) day warranty).
The meters/current limiting is accurate and higher resolution than a lot of supplies. I've not yet tried the various tracking options. It is quite big and heavy but at least it doesn't slide around and I think it is going to last.
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As I live in a small studio apartment set up tatami room style, I'm currently using paper boxes... XD
Currently I'm trying to find (or design) appropriate furniture to set up a permanent lab, but I think I may have to build one myself... I think the ideal would be a low table with a removable or foldable box cover.
You may want to take a look at my bench in this thread (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg89814/#msg89814)made from a inexpensive shelving unit with a folding table top. takes up very little space and has lots of room to store instruments and supplies.
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I've been lurking for a while - this place has been full of wonderful tips on depleting your wallet real fast! Anyway, here's what my mancave looks like now.
(http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae301/gbyleveldt1/20130812_194229_zps342922c2.jpg) (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/gbyleveldt1/media/20130812_194229_zps342922c2.jpg.html)
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Hi
This is my electronics work bench after a little clean up. :) I rebuild it a few month ago, to get better access to all that gear.
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Very impressive workbenches ... :-+
Cheers all ... :clap:
Here is my workbench. It is made of teak. My country, MYANMAR is famous of teak. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teak)
(http://okelectronic.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/oakkar7_workbench.jpg)
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This is it now , until a couple of boxes from Japan arrive ^-^
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(http://fotkidepo.ru/photo/115530/9515ZdJQKBoMHD/926144w.jpg)
Current homelab setup. :-/O Not shown but present CSA7404 (repair in progress :-BROKE) and TLA714+7AA4.
Don't even have proper soldering iron, most of time just do stuff at work lab.
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I think I need a new stronger table. That or a brace underneath the load.
(http://i.imgur.com/3d1AzGf.jpg)
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Wow. I think you need one now. That table's already bending in the middle, right above the existing brace structure! You are going to come home one day and find your nice equipment in a pile on the floor...
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You have centered all the weight. Put it above the table legs.
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(http://i.imgur.com/PrmdsMFl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/PrmdsMF)
Started the OCD labelling of my parts bins :D
Found some DYMO label printer labels online that are the perfect size. The actual printer connects via USB, and the DYMO software is pretty good for generating labels. Makes labelling so much easier than those standalone units where you have to type stuff in. New ones are about $100 I think, but mine was only ~$20 second hand. Best investment ever :)
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Hi
Instead of taking a picture I decided to make a short youtube video (In 1080P HD ) of my electronics bench and the instruments I have at the moment. The 6 minute video is uploading right now, and I hope it'll be ready on ... say an hour from now. :scared:
Note though that I have apparently misplaced my frequency counter, since it was not at the desk (you shoudl have seen the mess before I did cleanup). I'll need to make another video of it someday. Also all microncontroller tools (programmers etc) are on another room, near this desktop PC... (need yet another video :palm: )
Also if you'll like to see a teardown video of russian scope or some other stuff I have, please leave a comment at the Youtube.. Also extra motivators (likes, subcsribes, donations & sponsorship deals) are preciated. :D
PS: The link: DIYTao #9, Quick look at my electronics bench (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt48SUyV8NI#)
PS2: I attached a screen capture for those who don't want to waste 5 minutes of their life listening me.. :blah:
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Super-mini stowable lab for my tatami room style apartment... :)
(http://s15.postimg.org/kt8r8s2pn/IMG_0596.jpg)
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Super-mini stowable lab for my tatami room style apartment... :)
Repurposed metal TV cart?
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Super-mini stowable lab for my tatami room style apartment... :)
Repurposed metal TV cart?
Actually it's an IKEA metal coffee table. XD
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90208449/ (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90208449/)
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Actually it's an IKEA metal coffee table. XD
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90208449/ (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90208449/)
I like it!
Price is decent too. Now where to find a place to put one... :P
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i bought wire shelves for my lab. best investment ever. these things are incredibly tough and sturdy.
i'm rebuilding right now. got the first one installed. tomorrow the next one.
i also beefed up my fuse box and installed a few extra circuits.
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i bought wire shelves for my lab. best investment ever. these things are incredibly tough and sturdy.
i'm rebuilding right now. got the first one installed. tomorrow the next one.
i also beefed up my fuse box and installed a few extra circuits.
If running more than one circuit to the bench you might want to make sure they are all on the same phase. (every other breaker in most U.S. fuse boxes).
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i bought wire shelves for my lab. best investment ever. these things are incredibly tough and sturdy.
i'm rebuilding right now. got the first one installed. tomorrow the next one.
i also beefed up my fuse box and installed a few extra circuits.
If running more than one circuit to the bench you might want to make sure they are all on the same phase. (every other breaker in most U.S. fuse boxes).
why ?
i like to have my phases balanced.
all my equipment is galvanically isolated. so common mode currents are not a problem.
for equipment under test is use a medical grade isolation transformer so i don't have the ground loop problem.
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Super-mini stowable lab for my tatami room style apartment... :)
Repurposed metal TV cart?
Actually it's an IKEA metal coffee table. XD
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90208449/ (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/90208449/)
How wide an instrument will it accept between the legs "narrow side" ?
Ikea says 42cm , but isn't that an "outside" measurement.
I'we been looking @ this one as my "Surgery table" , for fixing those huge HP instruments.
A bit pricey though ....
http://www.ikea.com/dk/da/catalog/products/00058487/ (http://www.ikea.com/dk/da/catalog/products/00058487/)
And a bit to high to put anywhere under a working table , that's where the other little neat one would come in. I have a HP5370A (sick ... Err 02) :-// & a HP3324 that i need to "seat"
/Bingo
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Nice table !
wow, I almost had a seizure when I saw the price... These kroner are kind of frightening ! It's a bit more reasonable in euros :-DD
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Be carefull with all metal operating tables... Before you know it sparks will fly..
Or you will pull out a board conataining configuration memory held by a nicad, put it down because you are occupied with a problem and realise only too late the table is metal.... Poof goes the data...
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Be carefull with all metal operating tables... Before you know it sparks will fly..
Or you will pull out a board conataining configuration memory held by a nicad, put it down because you are occupied with a problem and realise only too late the table is metal.... Poof goes the data...
Good point. Relying on the paint to insulate wouldn't be that great an idea IMHO.
At least Sigmoid has an ESD mat on it, so that should help considerably in his case (I presume the ground cords are connected when in use). ;)
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Messy mess :P
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21387397/slike/eevblog/nered.jpg)
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For what do you use the aluminum foil with the centers cut out? :-//
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Maybe to put it on a board during rework to heat shield the surrounding area?
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Be carefull with all metal operating tables... Before you know it sparks will fly..
Or you will pull out a board conataining configuration memory held by a nicad, put it down because you are occupied with a problem and realise only too late the table is metal.... Poof goes the data...
I'll get a rubber mat , but it seems like you doesn't recommend an ESD type or ??
I mean would the ESD mat also make the config go "poof" , or is the conductive ability of an ESD mat not enough to worry about ?
/Bingo
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I mean would the ESD mat also make the config go "poof" , or is the conductive ability of an ESD mat not enough to worry about ?
It probably depends on what type of mat. I think some are a lot more conductive than others. I have the blue top/black bottom type similar to what Dave uses (see EEVblog #250). I can not measure any conductivity at all on the top side, but the black layer on the bottom is about 6000 ohms per 0.1 inch.
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How wide an instrument will it accept between the legs "narrow side" ?
Ikea says 42cm , but isn't that an "outside" measurement.
I'we been looking @ this one as my "Surgery table" , for fixing those huge HP instruments.
A bit pricey though ....
http://www.ikea.com/dk/da/catalog/products/00058487/ (http://www.ikea.com/dk/da/catalog/products/00058487/)
And a bit to high to put anywhere under a working table , that's where the other little neat one would come in. I have a HP5370A (sick ... Err 02) :-// & a HP3324 that i need to "seat"
/Bingo
The opening at the narrow end is 13"1/4 wide, and 10"1/2 high. However, as you can see the legs are L-shaped, so you could in fact put in a larger instrument from the side.
Be carefull with all metal operating tables... Before you know it sparks will fly..
Or you will pull out a board conataining configuration memory held by a nicad, put it down because you are occupied with a problem and realise only too late the table is metal.... Poof goes the data...
Good point. Relying on the paint to insulate wouldn't be that great an idea IMHO.
At least Sigmoid has an ESD mat on it, so that should help considerably in his case (I presume the ground cords are connected when in use). ;)
Yep. :) As I only put the thing together yesterday, the wiring isn't done yet. I'll have a power strip attached to one of the legs, and grounds connected up. I think I may also add an ESD mat to the bottom layer, I still have an appropriate length left over after covering the top.
What I'm uncertain about is whether I should explicitly ground the metal structure... Currently I'm in favor of grounding it, at least then I'll know what potential it's at. :)
I mean would the ESD mat also make the config go "poof" , or is the conductive ability of an ESD mat not enough to worry about ?
It probably depends on what type of mat. I think some are a lot more conductive than others. I have the blue top/black bottom type similar to what Dave uses (see EEVblog #250). I can not measure any conductivity at all on the top side, but the black layer on the bottom is about 6000 ohms per 0.1 inch.
If ESD mats would short things out, nobody would be using them, now would they?! :D The top layer of ESD mats has an extremely high resistance, I remember Dave's video where he measured infinite resistance on it... It's just dissipative, not conductive.
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How wide an instrument will it accept between the legs "narrow side" ?
Ikea says 42cm , but isn't that an "outside" measurement.
I'we been looking @ this one as my "Surgery table" , for fixing those huge HP instruments.
A bit pricey though ....
http://www.ikea.com/dk/da/catalog/products/00058487/ (http://www.ikea.com/dk/da/catalog/products/00058487/)
And a bit to high to put anywhere under a working table , that's where the other little neat one would come in. I have a HP5370A (sick ... Err 02) :-// & a HP3324 that i need to "seat"
/Bingo
The opening at the narrow end is 13"1/4 wide, and 10"1/2 high. However, as you can see the legs are L-shaped, so you could in fact put in a larger instrument from the side.
Hmm ... The HP3324 is 5"1/4 , 16"3/4 , 19"5/8 ... So there goes that (at least in the middle)
Thanx for the info.
If ESD mats would short things out, nobody would be using them, now would they?! :D The top layer of ESD mats has an extremely high resistance, I remember Dave's video where he measured infinite resistance on it... It's just dissipative, not conductive.
I guess you're right , but it's better to ask , than to "find out" ...
/Bingo
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Maybe to put it on a board during rework to heat shield the surrounding area?
Spot on! ;)
I do laptop motherboard reworks on a daily basis, and I reuse those aluminium shields to protect surrounding components.
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Ok. Here is my messy lab (Basically the back end of the garage, the cars both sleep outside
The wooden table with the broken chair is my workbench.
The Garden table i borrowed from the wife, just to keep the long things on (and 'cos i have run out of space on the table)
The Bigscreen TV, Aircurtains, Organ, etc, are all works in progress (meaning started working on them long ago, then got too busy with work, so they are on hold for now.
I also borrowed my dads 20Mhz 2 Channel Beekman 'scope the on Friday morning, and it is still sitting in the back of my van, guess I will take it out tomorrow morning.
The guy in blue is my 20 month old assistant, who's favorite tool is a claw hammer.my 5 year old assistant was busy in the house when I took the photos.
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What I'm uncertain about is whether I should explicitly ground the metal structure... Currently I'm in favor of grounding it, at least then I'll know what potential it's at. :)
I wouldn't, as it could bypass the 1M resistor connected to the mat (conductive side of the mat discharge through the metal if it makes proper contact, such as through worn paint). Now if you added a 1M resistor between the metal cart and safety earth, you'll be OK. This might be of help: http://www.esdjournal.com/techpapr/eosesd/grounds/fsg.htm (http://www.esdjournal.com/techpapr/eosesd/grounds/fsg.htm)
I'd connect the mat & wrist grounds through the power strip, either through a screw (verify the screw is tied to safety earth; might need to scrape some paint off of the back side of the screw to get solid contact), or worst case, make a short extension cable that has a ground wire coming out of the receptacle side along side the 3 wire power cord. Then use that to tie the ESD grounds to safety earth (presumes the structural wiring provides 3 prong outlets that are actually connected to ground; could be an issue in an older structure).
If you have an available outlet that won't be needed for power, you could also make the following: http://www.instructables.com/id/Grounding-an-ESD-mat-and-wrist-band-at-home/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/Grounding-an-ESD-mat-and-wrist-band-at-home/)
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Meet the incredibly tiny "hack rack"....my "at college" setup.
Instruments onboard:
Fluke 45 bench meter: It's butt ugly but it was cheap with a recent cal so it got to come home with me. It has no microvolt range but it's quite a lot better than my Extech in terms of accuracy. My first "real" piece of lab gear.
Keithley 2015 THD Multimeter...bought before Dave's review; I'm sure they're all 2x as much now. I accidentally found one on ebay while trying to score an ancient HP distortion analyzer of questionable functionality. It's not made for HiFi work but for mainstream gear, it's more than adequate. It can measure down to 0.004% THD at 20kHz.
Extech 430: Grunt work meter. Poor battery life, questionable cat rating and a *slow* cap function. I'm glad I didn't pay retail.
Tektronix TDS 744A + Dell VGA monitor; main scope that replaces the old 20MHz Hameg. The UI is sometimes ungodly slow but other than that it rocks....kicking it into InstaVu is anything but instant. I may fix the horizontal width problem on the built in display sometime soon. It passes SPC reliably.
Heathkit IT-12 signal tracer. Older than dirt and indestructible with a magic eye tube level indicator!
VIZ Senior VoltOhmyst VTVM. Older than dirt as well, dumb and tough. Good for illustrating trends and probing things with nasty spikes.
Peak Atlas DCA Pro: General purpose semiconductor tester with PC based low current curve tacing. Identifies the part with a decent amount of accuracy and allows me to gain match transistors in house too. House numbered transistor? No problem.
The stack of Technics amplifiers is a permanent resident of the rack. The sources that feed it and speakers it drives are out of the shot as is the UPS that keeps suicidal squirrels from spoiling my fun.
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My 'lab' aka bedroom/computer desk. Soldering irons and mechanical tools live in the garage (you don't want to see that, it's a pigsty haha..)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2830/9949583823_f20910713a_o.png)
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The late, great Jim Williams. An example for us all.
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I must post this one about Jim Wiilliams.. about Tek 465B Fix and Minuteman ICBM guidance computer mounted as artwork on his living room wall.
If you dont have seen it, its well wourth the time.
Jim Williams Tek 465B Fix v3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6ODi7qSpYg#)
http://www.linear.com/williams.php (http://www.linear.com/williams.php)
(http://www.linear.com/images/general/JWBanner.jpg)
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Work lab:
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/275/c/a/labsmall_by_phaedrus2401-d6oysk2.jpg)
Big: http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/275/6/3/lab_by_phaedrus2401-d6oys47.jpg (http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/275/6/3/lab_by_phaedrus2401-d6oys47.jpg)
Had to censor some interesting things, sorry, but our competitors do snoop.
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That my small company shop on my basement O0
that result of 10 year of hunting on ebay and bankruptcy auction site
missing from image reflow oven ,pcb washing and the AIO that was in next room
Marc L.
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You have a neat pcb shop.
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What do you do with your shop?
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I like the Xcelite tool kit.
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Hi
i have past >6 year doing Design , SCH\PCB and prototype assembly/test for
a huge company ,got tired and kick it out
now focus on low volume prototype and pcb assembly
work now on a project that will make the bridge between ardunino
and production ready pcb ,so take all ardunino and similar whit sheild and integrate in into custom professional pcb and if customer what do production to ..
something that may look like hackeda but really much more personalised
p.s. toolkit was remain of my alarm installer live back in 1990 ;D
have add new panoramic pic ..
Best regard
Marc Lalonde
Alphatronique inc.
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Here's my little corner...
(http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-jWXbXXx/0/L/i-jWXbXXx-L.jpg)
Definitely thinking of building an L-shaped bench of some sort.
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Mine is in a constant state of change and it gets cleaned twice a year. It's been over six months so here's the latest set-up.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/workbench2013.jpg)
Where did you get that work bench or what model is it? i like the metal design with all the outlets on the face?
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Nice lab i would like to see another picture in the future to see how much it has changed, a bit messy but you have some nice equipment. :-DMM
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Where did you get that work bench or what model is it? i like the metal design with all the outlets on the face?
I bought it around 1992. Had a wooden one before that. The work surface is chemical proof and has held up well. I added an "L" brace on the underside of the top of the riser as I figured it would need some extra bracing eventually with all the test equipment piled on top. I think I bought it through Granger's. At the time it was around $280 with the top riser and bottom shelf. Had to wire it but all the outlet punch holes were on the front and the legs. One outlet in the center I have wired to my variac. The rest are all bench power and the master bench kill switch is mounted in the left leg. It shuts down everything except the two computers.
It's and Edsal.
Here's the pieces.
I think this is what I have but I'm not sure the surface is the exact same material as I remember mine was listed as chemical proof:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EDSAL-Workbench-7D182?cm_sp=IO-_-IDP-_-BTM_BTB05209020&cm_vc=IDPBBZ2 (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EDSAL-Workbench-7D182?cm_sp=IO-_-IDP-_-BTM_BTB05209020&cm_vc=IDPBBZ2)
This is the top shelf:
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EDSAL-Electrical-Shelf-Riser-5W675?Pid=search (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/EDSAL-Electrical-Shelf-Riser-5W675?Pid=search)
I also added a half shelf on the bottom as a full shelf would be in the way when I'm sitting at it but i don't see that listed.
The top shelf with the space for outlets can be added to any bench that's exactly 72 inches wide. and it's under $100 (if you pick it up from your local Graingers).
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Hmm... I guess I'll post mine, now that I have relocated it and it's a little tidier than usual.
My camera phone apologizes for the pathetic quality of the picture... though I suspect the real culprit is the low-ish lighting, it's a convenient scapegoat :-+
And my poor woodworking skills apologize for the bench itself. I can't find a scapegoat for that. (Yep, the top shelf really is bowed, though it's been braced better since...)
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(http://www.iceisfun.com/bench1.jpg)
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Hmm... I guess I'll post mine, now that I have relocated it and it's a little tidier than usual.
My camera phone apologizes for the pathetic quality of the picture... though I suspect the real culprit is the low-ish lighting, it's a convenient scapegoat :-+
And my poor woodworking skills apologize for the bench itself. I can't find a scapegoat for that. (Yep, the top shelf really is bowed, though it's been braced better since...)
Want to talk about poor woodworking skills?!? I used cinder block to put my bench up!
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Ill throw mine in the mix as well.
I just noticed c4757p it looks like we shop at the same place for storage bins.
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I just noticed c4757p it looks like we shop at the same place for storage bins.
Mine was from Lowe's, IIRC. Could have been Harbor Fright. The smaller ones were from Walmart.
We also have the same big-ass breadboard. Is yours as much of a turd as mine?
And that might be the same antistatic mat too. :o Don't forget to ground it!
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Mine came from lowe's to.
You are absolutely right about the breadboard you have to search for the right hole to get it to work right.(Like playing wack-a-mole with the jumper wires.)
I was boarding up the power supply to test it and wouldn't work,wouldn't work,touch a wire work touch a wire wouldn't work.
I almost broke it in half i was getting so mad.
Got the mat from ebay cant remember the seller.(One of these days ill have a real one that's blue and everything.)
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Yeah, I figured it wasn't from HF, it's lasted me more than a month...
I was boarding up the power supply to test it and wouldn't work,wouldn't work,touch a wire work touch a wire wouldn't work.
I almost broke it in half i was getting so mad.
Mine pushed me to start doing dead-bug prototypes on scrap PCB. Now I'm completely hooked on that method, won't even bother trying to find a better breadboard. The thing's just as lonely as it damn well deserves to be >:(
Got the mat from ebay cant remember the seller.(One of these days ill have a real one that's blue and everything.)
"Blue and everything" ;D Yeah, I have no idea how good this one is. I'd probably get better protection from the bare wood underneath... but I'm pretty careful about ESD in general, I don't think the mat adds much when I'm already paying close attention to charge transfer. The only thing I did test was that it wouldn't break down and conduct at higher voltages (mains) - it held off 3.5kV within millimeters of the grounding button just fine and that's the worst I could throw at it.
Probably should have stuck a uA meter in the loop to see what its resistance was at that voltage... Edit: Just did that: 0.7uA at 2900V (4 Gohm) at 30mm, so definitely in the typical static-dissipative range.
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Yeah I live in the southeast so statics not to bad of an issue as the humidity
is like 1000% all the time so I'm probably not as careful as i should be.
I don't use a lot of really sensitive stuff right now though some op-amps,555's
and the likes so not as critical.
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Just redid my workbench to try and maximise the space I have available.
Went to IKEA and grabbed a 1200x300mm shelf, and some of the desk mount brackets for it. Makes it easy to install without having to drill into the wall or anything.
Also installed some soft-wiring kit from CMS Electracom (http://cmselectra.com.au/). Fantastic stuff. We specify stuff like this a lot at work for office fitouts because it makes it easy for the people making the desk/cabinetry to install all the outlets, and the electrician can just install starter sockets beforehand. Then its just a matter of plugging everything in.
All the soft wiring is rated for 20A, so to get full benefit you really need a starter socket wall plate to replace your existing power outlet. CMS sell an adapter cable (http://buycmsonline.com/au/buycmssoftwiring/lead-starter-socket-access/starter-cables-10amp-plug.html) so you can plug it into a standard socket outlet, with an inline 10A breaker for protection. Everything hooks up with the same standard connector, with T pieces, or 1in3out blocks. Data cabling I just terminated to standard RJ45 plugs into my desktop switch. The stuff isn't that cheap, but it's much neater than having power boards everywhere, and much safer than trying to install standard electrical outlets into a desk. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out :)
(you also don't need to be an electrician or business to buy from them - they have an online shop!)
(http://i.imgur.com/Ul2xpcIl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Ul2xpcI)
(http://i.imgur.com/186CEvjl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/186CEvj)
(http://i.imgur.com/CeSg0KCl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/CeSg0KC)
(http://i.imgur.com/hzOGjCIl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/hzOGjCI)
(http://i.imgur.com/6gIPpzWl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/6gIPpzW)
Even a power strip underneath my desk for easy access :) Plastic bracket screws on, then the power board clips in, soft-wiring cable connects on one side, with a pass through on the other end for chaining more boards.
(http://i.imgur.com/bSyuws7l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/bSyuws7)
All Done
(http://i.imgur.com/BRN6uAgl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/BRN6uAg)
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Hi,
here are some Pics of my 'Mancave'. Many parts have been "dumpstered" at the university or in companies I work for:
(http://abload.de/thumb/dsc05160lzdxw.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=dsc05160lzdxw.jpg)
It's not that dark like it looks, that's just the camera. On the bottom of the Lowest Broder-Board I mounted two "kitchen"-Lights (36W Fluro each) so the bench is really bright. As I do a lot SMD, the big soldering-station is a Weller rework-system (arrived today :) ) WMD 3. All the other tools are hidden in the Desk.
(http://abload.de/thumb/dsc05161n4caj.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=dsc05161n4caj.jpg)
My (mostly) RF-Stuff, Test-Receivers, Spectrumanalyzer (HP 141T, classic ;) ) a HV-Supply from R&S and an quite Old HP DSA. Down on the right of the power-switch is my RLC-Meter (ESI Video Bridge).
(http://abload.de/thumb/dsc05164xjd8g.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=dsc05164xjd8g.jpg)
On the Other side: Components and more chaos :)
Hidden in the back, my 10MHz GPS-Reference:
(http://abload.de/thumb/dsc05165zlip2.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=dsc05165zlip2.jpg)
The last Pictures are my Power-Wiring, maybe the most interesting part especially for you, metalphreak:
(http://abload.de/thumb/dsc051696uept.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=dsc051696uept.jpg) (http://abload.de/thumb/dsc051708iepm.jpg) (http://abload.de/image.php?img=dsc051708iepm.jpg)
I wired a complete, independent circuit-braker-box (including a RCD) for my Lab. It's also the central grounding-point for my ESD-Stuff. In this box there is a central electric contactor. If I turn the key, the whole Lab is powered up, if I hit the Button everything (except the GPS of course) is off. Good for an emergency and also quite convenient. :)
Since you are also making a quite solid AC-Supply for your bench, this could be an inspiration for you.
Unfortunately I don't have to much space (still at university, living in "flat share"), therefore the whole thing is quite dense. In the future I hope to get a complete work-room with different benches for soldering, measurements and so on. That would be more ergonomic.
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Ill throw mine in the mix as well.
I just noticed c4757p it looks like we shop at the same place for storage bins.
I use to have the exact equipment at my school. Most of the labs are getting a facelift so we are getting some nice Agilent equipment.
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My basic bench for assembly and test work. There's other equipment scattered around...power supplies, function generators, resistance boxes, a scope, etc. I try to keep the bench relatively neat, though, or it quickly gets out of control.
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About time someone showed off their workspace with a bit more entropy. Here's mine.
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My humble lab. Still in progress, there is another half being completed shortly.
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What's the red contraption on the shelf between power supply and multimeters? I assume some hot air device right?
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What's the red contraption on the shelf between power supply and multimeters? I assume some hot air device right?
Didn't even notice that. Looks like a hot air gun to me (resting upside down on some sort of built-in stand?).
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That's a heat gun. For whatever reason you really don't see that style much anymore but they were very common at one time.
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That's a heat gun. For whatever reason you really don't see that style much anymore but they were very common at one time.
Master brand... looks like they are still made: http://www.masterappliance.com/heat-tool-products/heat-guns/master-heat-gun (http://www.masterappliance.com/heat-tool-products/heat-guns/master-heat-gun)
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Here's my incarnation of a work bench. Storage shelving makes a nice bench for the price. Should be moving to a new house later which will be better so I can have a separate bedroom too :-//
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Here's my incarnation of a work bench. Storage shelving makes a nice bench for the price. Should be moving to a new house later which will be better so I can have a separate bedroom too :-//
Photo is too large, completely unviewable not viewable just by clicking...
But, that's a good idea about the storage shelving. For those in the US, it's sold at Costco (Whalen brand).
What did you use for the benchtop?
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Photo is too large, completely unviewable...
1.) Right click on the image
2.) Click 'View Image' or 'Open Link in new Tab'
3.) ...
4.) Profit.
But yes, the JavaScript-Function "expandThumb()" in "./forum/Themes/default/scripts/topic.js" should read differently or be set via CSS. I use a greasemonkey-script to limit the width.
// This is a part of: ./forum/Themes/default/scripts/topic.js
// *** Other functions...
function expandThumb(thumbID)
{
var img = document.getElementById('thumb_' + thumbID);
var link = document.getElementById('link_' + thumbID);
var tmp = img.src;
img.src = link.href;
link.href = tmp;
img.style.width = '';
// here is the fix:
img.style.maxWidth = '60%'; // not larger than this percentage of the screen
img.style.height = '';
return false;
}
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i can see spider web in this photo...
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Here's my incarnation of a work bench. Storage shelving makes a nice bench for the price. Should be moving to a new house later which will be better so I can have a separate bedroom too :-//
That looks nice and cosy :)
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Explained how to change the CSS here.
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I would add this to the CSS, it will make images resize to their parent element if larger width than their parent element. This should fix images on the whole website and anything in the future.
a img {
max-width: 100%;
}
.bbc_img {
max-width: 100%;
}
So I just stick those two lines of code anywhere inside "./forum/Themes/default/scripts/topic.js" ?
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I told Dave how to add that to the cascading style sheet here.
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I get most of my fun out of repairing stuff. Haven't got into design/build but that's largely because I can't think of anything useful I can be bothered to make. Repairing things provides the challenge I crave and is a great way to learn many aspects of electronics. With design/build you have to learn to know how to make something do what you want. With repair you have to figure out how a circuit was designed to operate so you can fix it. All good fun!
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You can add those two additional max-width: 100%; lines of code into
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Themes/default/css/index.css (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Themes/default/css/index.css)
Done!
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Looks like it works to me
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You can add those two additional max-width: 100%; lines of code into
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Themes/default/css/index.css (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Themes/default/css/index.css)
Done!
Looks a lot better! :-+
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+1 Looks Great. No more scrolling!!!!
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Nice, plus an image can alternately be opened in a new browser tab if it needs be seen in its full, humongous glory to study any small details. Win-win.
Thanks :-+
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fantastic. now no more problems if someone uploads a high res photo shot with a phone, you wont see the shitty image quality as much :)
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Over the weekend, I put some of the final touches on my new lab. I am about 98% complete with the new improved lab. Here are some new pictures.
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Very nice!
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Very nice!
Thanks robrenz, I am still deciding on which to do above the 27.19 image, either a pegboard solution for tools or more shelving. I am even considered some cabinets/pegboard type of mix for above the teardown and assembly work bench.
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Nice layout. Lots of clear bench space. My problem is my office is too big for the shop and the shop is too big for the office so they are on two different floors.
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Nice lab. :)
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Over the weekend, I put some of the final touches on my new lab. I am about 98% complete with the new improved lab. Here are some new pictures.
Really nice work. :-+
Do you sit on the bar stool when working at the high tables? While I also prefer different heights between workstation and my work surface, your setup does take this to the extreme. ;)
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In a new house I allocated a budget for an electronics workshop (which previously had been in a closet in my garage). This one is really an IKEA kitchen so I have enclosed the IKEA CAD images and pictures as well as the finished product.
Two issues have to be resolved.
1). I have windows but my server is generating heat so I will need an air conditioner in the summer - even if I move the server out.
2). The shelving above my bench needs to be revised. I have some kitchen shelves which take various hooks to hold cables off the bench. Instruments are up a bit high at present. I will need to look at a professional service lab setup.
BTW, I collect a few old calculators - so will be fixing these. Meantime they are stored in cupboards and drawers.
I recently bought a RIGOL 1104Z and 1022. The various items are annotated in one image. The Mac is pretty, and serves to check the internet with. It is the last of the PowerPC type so cannot be updated and crashes on some internet pages. Insulted screwdrivers were found at Jaycar about 5 years ago - too unique to use! The panorama shows the end where I have a functioning server and an old spare one not connected.
The total cost of the IKEA bench and cupboards under it was about $2600. The rear wall has full height cupboards which cost about the same as the benches but aren't well shown in the pictures.
Updated 7/11/2013 three shelves added from Bunnings and active Server moved inside air conditioned part of house.
(Images were taken with iPhone 5s, the final one with panorama - all compressed to fit the 2Mb limit on this site).
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Over the weekend, I put some of the final touches on my new lab. I am about 98% complete with the new improved lab. Here are some new pictures.
Really nice work. :-+
Do you sit on the bar stool when working at the high tables? While I also prefer different heights between workstation and my work surface, your setup does take this to the extreme. ;)
Since the photos I have replaced the "Bar Stool" with adjustable Lab/Tech chairs. Much more comfortable and they have adjustable height as well!
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I posted this to the Amp Hour reddit a while ago, but thought I'd put it here as well.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7285/8740446708_2c0e98481e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stickmanseyeview/8740446708/)
Workbench May 2013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/stickmanseyeview/8740446708/#) by The One True Stickman (http://www.flickr.com/people/stickmanseyeview/), on Flickr
I'm in the process of starting a big re-org to lay things out a little more efficiently, but I'm sure it won't look much different to the untrained viewer when I'm done. :D
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Welcome to my latest addition, the DIY electronics workbench. Modular construction to allow easy transportation. Sitting on it is my hakko fx888, DIY 0-30vdc power supply and an old 2ch 20MHz scope. Time for an upgrade I think.
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Over the weekend, I put some of the final touches on my new lab. I am about 98% complete with the new improved lab. Here are some new pictures.
I see similarity between my setup and Terabyte2007. I think it's an Ikea table top and similar magnifier light and shelving. So I must have got it about right, and no need to go back to USA. However, the collection of instruments in Terabyte's lab is fa superior.
For Insulted Screwdriver fans - here are the close-ups. To be fair though, this type of error is becoming less common from our Chinese colleagues where so much top quality technology is being produced e.g. Rigol, this iPhone, etc.
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Insulted screwdrivers were found at Jaycar about 5 years ago - too unique to use!
Can't let that one get away.
Commence the :-DD
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I'm getting so many ideas ;D
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Insulted screwdrivers were found at Jaycar about 5 years ago - too unique to use!
Can't let that one get away.
Commence the :-DD
Having Insulted screwdrivers are better than having a pissed off soldering iron.
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Here is mine, last weekend I made a lot of cleanup so I took a picture, It will not last very long.
I also have in another house a small CNC I built, it's very useful !
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Don't get your CNC wet through those holes by the roof. Would be a shame :-\
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I need a bigger house :(
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This is the lab I use in school for my classes. Spend about 8 hours a week in here.
I have a good stash of Fluke 8010a's on my desk, i don't know how they have survived being used by 25+ years worth of first year students.
i don't know what was going on here where i needed 5 meters and 2 scope channels.
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I need a bigger house :(
I like your bench - but I have no clue where you put your knees when working. Do you work bent over? That would be hard on even my young back.
I still don't get the "tall bench" vs "low bench" pluses and minuses.
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I need a bigger house :(
You need to expand and conquer. I took over two rooms, well actually 3 rooms in the house so far. Wifes about ready to kick my ass!
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pics?
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pics?
If you are referring to me, I have posted my updated lab, just search back a page or two.
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I like your bench - but I have no clue where you put your knees when working. Do you work bent over? That would be hard on even my young back.
I still don't get the "tall bench" vs "low bench" pluses and minuses.
Over the years I've had both shorter and tall benches. My current electronics bench's work surface is 34 inches high. I have found that for me this is a good height for standing at as well as sitting on a stool and working. If it was lower it would not be comfortable to stand at which I do quite often.
My soldering station is 29.5 inches high. It was actually built using a computer desk. It would be too low to stand at and work. The soldering station I can sit at in a normal office chair.
Both of my benches have space for my legs under them when you are sitting at them. Building a bench with no leg room to sit under would be a mistake. You want to be able to lean over your work easily but not have to lean all the time.
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I need a bigger house :(
I like your bench - but I have no clue where you put your knees when working. Do you work bent over? That would be hard on even my young back.
I still don't get the "tall bench" vs "low bench" pluses and minuses.
I guess I do work slightly bent over, but I find it comfortable. I can fit my knees under my bench just enough. Height wise my bench is probably taller than most, but I'm 6'2, so a high working surface is a must.
I'm pretty much confined to the spare room in the basement for my lab, I'd probably have to sleep on the couch if I take over too much of the house. ;D The house is legally 100% mine, I bought it before my partner and I met, but that certainly doesn't matter in the say I have, haha. :)
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I'm 6'2" as well. but I prefer my soldering to be at the same position as if I was hand writing a letter - for the most precise hand control and stuff.. The small mussels in your wrist/hand, are much more fine then in your arms/chest. Something everyone knows instinctively. Sitting on a stool, and not having your forearms supported is a disadvantage as I see it. Plus, your eyes are closer to the work.
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I'm 6'2" as well. but I prefer my soldering to be at the same position as if I was hand writing a letter
Same for me (6'-3").
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Welcome to my latest addition, the DIY electronics workbench. Modular construction to allow easy transportation. Sitting on it is my hakko fx888, DIY 0-30vdc power supply and an old 2ch 20MHz scope. Time for an upgrade I think.
Nice, simple and more than capable!
I came very close to upgrading. My fluke pm3084 to a rigol but I haven't been able to bring myself to do it!
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Finally cleaned my lab up...still seems like its full of junk and I'm running out of room...
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Got around to replacing my desks and gave the room an overhaul. Still working on getting a nice collection of test equipment.
(http://i.imgur.com/zREiwQb.jpg)
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Nice, what's a workbench without... art
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At my school lab.
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Got around to replacing my desks and gave the room an overhaul. Still working on getting a nice collection of test equipment.
(http://i.imgur.com/zREiwQb.jpg)
What desk? did I miss it?
:-DD
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What desk? did I miss it?
All I can manage to see is a naked woman with a Dark Side of the Moon Album logo on her back. :-//
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"Wish You Were Here" looks pretty good to me... "The Wall" ain't bad either.
Anyway, no art on this one yet but I am inspired now.
The inspection microscope took up too much room on the bench so I decided to set up a soldering station just for SMD and board work.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/soldering/pics/esdbench-02.jpg)
Kind of nice not having the usual bench clutter around when working on the small stuff.
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The inspection microscope took up too much room on the bench so I decided to set up a soldering station just for SMD and board work.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/soldering/pics/esdbench-02.jpg)
That's a nice setup you got there! :-+
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+1 :clap: :clap:
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What desk? did I miss it?
All I can manage to see is a naked woman with a Dark Side of the Moon Album logo on her back. :-//
You could always get your own copy - it's a fairly famous image designed by Hipgnosis, who also created quite a few of the actual album covers.
(http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/1280x720/pink-floyd/607877/pink-floyd-back-catalogue-art-607877.jpg)
The albums being modelled by those ladies are (left to right):
'Atom Heart Mother', 'Relics', 'Dark Side of the Moon', 'Wish You Were Here', 'The Wall' and 'Animals'.
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May as well blow my own horn...
Shop bldg is 20x50, interior 28x18, "front room" about 20x20 for cold storage.
Tek 2246A
Owon SDS7102
Rigol DO832
Fluke 8012
Fluke 8010
Mastech HY3050-3
Weller WESD51
Sable 2015 CNC machine, controlled by cheap tower machine running EMC2 on Ubuntu 8.04
Microwave
Fridge
Ridgid TS3650 table saw
DeWalt 12" Mitre Saw
3 Dell laptops (1 Insp 17R, 2x Insp 8200 w/real serial & parallel ports, all Win 7)
2 Gateway laptops (Ubuntu, real serial & parallel ports)
1 "vintage" P4-3.0Ghz Windows machine with real serial & parallel ports
80K BTU furnace & 15K BTU A/C
Crap load of various power tools, spare parts, junk pile, full tool box, network maintenance gear, R/C gear...
46" plasma on the wall (junk yard find, wouldn't start up due to a bad speed output off a cooling fan, tapped the fan right next to it...Freebie Fix!!!)
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I mean would the ESD mat also make the config go "poof" , or is the conductive ability of an ESD mat not enough to worry about ?
It probably depends on what type of mat. I think some are a lot more conductive than others. I have the blue top/black bottom type similar to what Dave uses (see EEVblog #250). I can not measure any conductivity at all on the top side, but the black layer on the bottom is about 6000 ohms per 0.1 inch.
EEVblog #250 – Anti-Static Mat Myth http://www.eevblog.com/2012/03/01/eevblog-250-anti-static-mat-myth/ (http://www.eevblog.com/2012/03/01/eevblog-250-anti-static-mat-myth/)
EEVblog #250 - Anti-Static Mat Myth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FFrZl9ymFw#ws)
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Here's my workbench in my garage.
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Here's my workbench in my garage.
I have the same Ikea JANSJÖ flexible led work lamp as you have on the left.
Very nice and cheap series of LED spotlights: http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/categories/series/18294/ (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/categories/series/18294/)
(http://www.ikea.com/ms/media/seorange/20134/20134_jansjo_PE367099.jpg)
(http://www.ikea.com/dk/da/images/products/jansjo-led-usb-lampe__0176551_PE329357_S4.JPG) (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/images/products/jansjo-led-clamp-spotlight__0098924_PE240309_S4.JPG) (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/images/products/jansjo-led-work-lamp__0098927_PE240312_S4.JPG)
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Here's my workbench in my garage.
Your cat's got the plans to build his own fish.
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Here's my workbench in my garage.
Your cat's got the plans to build his own fish.
..and I like how it's even licking its lips.
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Here's my workbench in my garage.
Your cat's got the plans to build his own fish.
..and I like how it's even licking its lips.
Nice. ;D
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I finally got my office/workshop/ham shack organized enough to take some pics. The first is my desk where I do my job, the 2nd is my writing area. Sorry, no naked women in a painting, just a part of my die cast car collection. The 3rd is my ham radio desk. There is only 1 radio on it now, the other is out for repair(way beyond my ability to fix. I know my limits) and the rest are pics of my new workbench I just built. A poor man's basic lab for sure, but it suites me and my budget right now. The last pic is my office manager and constant companion, Molly. She is a 2 year old German Shepard/Australian Shepard mix. I hope you enjoy the pics
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The last pic is my office manager and constant companion, Molly. She is a 2 year old German Shepard/Australian Shepard mix.
She's beautiful. I miss my German Shepherd. And if I know anything about shepherd dogs, she really is your office manager! ;D
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Cats and dogs in the workshops... when will we see Dave posting a pic of a kangaroo in his workshop? ;D
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Having had both cats and dogs, I strongly suspect that cats and dangling, swinging test cables do not mix well. :P I have on at least one occasion had to yell at a rather bored beagle to stop chewing on the !@$#@# table!!!, but she was younger then...
I don't even want to guess what a kangaroo would do to a workshop. Probably shit in it...
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I have on at least one occasion had to yell at a rather bored beagle to stop chewing on the !@$#@# table!!!, but she was younger then...
Just throw her a BeagleBone :-DD
http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone+Black (http://beagleboard.org/Products/BeagleBone+Black)
(http://beagleboard.org/static/images/beagle_logo_hdr.gif)
(http://www.ti.com/ww/en/beagleboard/product_detail_black_lg.jpg)
Then you can eat a Raspberry Pi (http://www.raspberrypi.org) yourself...
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(http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/1280x720/pink-floyd/607877/pink-floyd-back-catalogue-art-607877.jpg)
Ah the girl on the left. So that's what Dave talks about when he talks about the cows coming home...
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c4757p, thanks for the comments. She is a beautiful dog and the office manager ;D. As the saying goes, she really is my best friend. Since I work from home, she has a blanket out here in addition to the one under the bay window in the living room and she constantly goes back and forth between the 2. My wife works at a doctor's office and they are converting to electronic medical records so she is working long hours right now, so I spend more time with Molly than I do with my wife :(. She has a great personality and loves the family but is VERY protective of us and she doesn't do strangers well. She is a 45 pound dog with 110 pounds of attitude!.
Tom, NW0LF
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I've learned not to let my cat/s anywhere near my lab.
Previous pair of cats I had would toss the place in a matter of minutes, and they'd definitely chew on wires (couldn't lock them out). Current one likes to get right in the middle of things (i.e. sit or lay on top of whatever I'm working on) to get my attention.
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My stepdaughter's cats are always trying to get into the office. I keep a squirt bottle of water to chase them out. I love cats, they taste just like chicken! :-DD
Tom, NW0LF
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My stepdaughter's cats are always trying to get into the office. I keep a squirt bottle of water to chase them out. I love cats, they taste just like chicken! :-DD
Tom, NW0LF
Mine's a stubborn little bugger. Squirt bottle didn't discourage him long at all when I tried that (~30 seconds and he's back at whatever it was he got hosed for). Favorite sport is to try and sneak out the back door when I go to the chest freezer, and the door didn't fully latch behind me (figured out how to open it).
As per chicken, I refer to mine as "Four legged Poultry", and threaten to eat him when he gets out of line. Does no good of course... :-DD
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I love cats, they taste just like chicken! :-DD
:| I've 3 cats.
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5 cats
2 dogs
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I also have five cats and all but one of them ignores my office completely when I'm not doing anything interesting. The minute I plug in the soldering iron they all swarm and I get nothing done because I spend half my time picking them up off my bench and putting them away from the hot iron.
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Maybe it's time to create a seperate pet topic? :-//
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Yes, maybe a split would be fine. :D
The minute I plug in the soldering iron they all swarm and I get nothing done because I spend half my time picking them up off my bench and putting them away from the hot iron.
The same for me! :-DD
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My cat is very well behaved, has never chewed on a single cable, has never jumped onto the workbench. He does love to sit on my lap when I'm working.
Oh and...
http://www.adafruit.com/catsofengineering (http://www.adafruit.com/catsofengineering)
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I have one cat that plays with bits of wire, tie wraps, etc. she finds on my bench. The weird thing is she puts them back where she found them after she's done.
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I actually don't have a work bench as my apartment is to small so I store my equipment on my wall shelve and pull off what I need as I go and work on a collapsible table.
I do have a extensive set up of tools and test equipment
Tektronix DMM914
TekPower TP4000ZC
MS8261 DIGITAL MULTIMETER
Hantek DSO1060
CSI3005SM power supply
CSI474 Desoldering Station
CSI825A Hot Air Station
Aoyue 932 Vacuum Pickup Station
Pro Charge Cordless Rechargeable Soldering Iron
Power Probe PPSK Butane Soldering Kit
Weller WES51
TOP2049 Universal USB Programmer
BK Precision 851 Deluxe EPROM Eraser
Here a question guys, since so many of you have all this pricey equipment what do you use it on to justify the money you spent on it.
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Here a question guys, since so many of you have all this pricey equipment what do you use it on to justify the money you spent on it.
I don't really have much in the way of "pricey" test equipment. The four most expensive items I have purchased new are a Fluke meter, inspection microscope, cheap digital scope, and Weller SMD soldering station. They are mostly used to fix all the newer junk with crappy capacitors. Most everything else is vintage test equipment I've picked up used over the years and rebuilt. I use it to restore even older test equipment.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/images/testequipment10.jpg)
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(http://www.wallsave.com/wallpapers/1280x720/pink-floyd/607877/pink-floyd-back-catalogue-art-607877.jpg)
I have been working at Alan Parsons house on the never ending re routing and re wiring job. Never ending cause more gear keeps showing up! Anyways, if he has not seen this one yet I will bring it to his attention.
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Hi, this is what I plan to use as a bench:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_6O6mBIyxUA/Upx7WWY5z_I/AAAAAAAABto/0-HFE2XPwOw/s320/IMG_2727%5B1%5D.JPG)
Oh wait...
I already did!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fIJpY4xb-lE/UptBRCiJpbI/AAAAAAAABtA/Uitt4kFtYNM/s320/lab+2.jpg)
I can't afford a permanent bench as I've devoted the room for a home-office. But any time a project comes along, I set up my lab in the dining room we hardly use anyways.
Pretty flexible, it takes me 5 to 8 minutes to set it up completely. Among the benefits is that every time you get started, you do it with a super clean space.
Some tips and more here: http://rodelectronics.blogspot.com/2013/10/how-to-set-up-ee-lab-hobby-workbench-in.html (http://rodelectronics.blogspot.com/2013/10/how-to-set-up-ee-lab-hobby-workbench-in.html)
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...But any time a project comes along, I set up my lab in the dining room we hardly use anyways.
Pretty flexible, it takes me 5 to 8 minutes to set it up completely. Among the benefits is that every time you get started, you do it with a super clean space.
That is a really good point. I have the disability that any horizontal surface (including the top of test equipment enclosures) quickly gets cluttered with anything I once had in hand and needed to put down. I want to learn to "put away" and not just "put down" but I can't. You won't see a picture of my bench here unless it is just after a clean sweep. It's too embarrassing.
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I have the disability that any horizontal surface (including the top of test equipment enclosures) quickly gets cluttered with anything I once had in hand and needed to put down...
Haha, true. Not to mention that after 20 minutes of work the bench itself gets diminished to a 10 x 10cm of workable area right at the edge of the table. This is exactly why having a designated space for everything becomes so important, and the reason why I speak about 5S in the blog post. I hear you with your disability: what I show in the pictures is what it looks like on a Friday. Sunday sight is radically different.
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I have the disability that any horizontal surface (including the top of test equipment enclosures) quickly gets cluttered with anything I once had in hand and needed to put down.
Somehow, I suspect many here on the forum suffer the same disorder. ;)
I certainly do. 30"x60" bench, but maybe 24" square available for actual workspace unless I clean up first. And it only seems to take ~5 min to clutter it up again after I clear it off, and it's back to the same available work area. :palm:
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Somehow, I suspect many here on the forum suffer the same disorder. ;)
Labgorophobia, check.
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Somehow, I suspect many here on the forum suffer the same disorder. ;)
Labgorophobia, check.
Afraid of entering the lab? :scared:
In my case, I'm just impatient and too lazy to keep everything nice and clean. :-DD I'd rather dive into a project and let the mess pile up. :-/O
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Somehow, I suspect many here on the forum suffer the same disorder. ;)
Labgorophobia, check.
Afraid of entering the lab? :scared:
Fear of large open spaces in the lab, especially on benches.
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Did some clean up today so thought I'd take some pictures of my basement utility room lab.
The first is the teardown, repair and soldering bench. Solar system equipment on the right.
Second is the breadboarding and test bench with furry lab assistant..
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Did some clean up today so thought I'd take some pictures of my basement utility room lab.
Nice view out the window. :-+
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I see that you have an "Office Manager" also. What's the dog's name and breed?
Tom, NW0LF
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Nice view out the window. :-+
Thanks. We live on a small lake. Last night it froze..
I see that you have an "Office Manager" also. What's the dog's name and breed?
Tom, NW0LF
Her name is Elowa. Not exactly sure what breed - she came from the pound. Our best guess is Malamute and Australian Shepard. :-//
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Her name is Elowa. Not exactly sure what breed - she came from the pound. Our best guess is Malamute and Australian Shepard. :-//
Nice one! Would be nice if more people rescued from shelter/pound :-+ Hate to see all the influx of unwanted pets on death row after christmas with all the unwanted "gifts" being dumped like garbage :rant: (sorry for the OT).
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We did rescue a Lab/Rot mix from the humane society but he turned out to have some really bad issues and was deemed untrainable. We unfortunately had to bring him back to the humane society. We have since discovered that our dog is a one dog household dog. :( I would love to have a 2nd but she doesn't share well.
Tom, NW0LF
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We did rescue a Lab/Rot mix from the humane society but he turned out to have some really bad issues and was deemed untrainable. We unfortunately had to bring him back to the humane society. We have since discovered that our dog is a one dog household dog. :( I would love to have a 2nd but she doesn't share well.
Tom, NW0LF
We got our dog from the RSPCA about 10 years ago. He is a poodle and when we got him he had just had his rear left leg amputated. I'm not exactly sure what happened to cause the issue but he was in pretty bad shape. Now he is about 15 yrs old, 3 legs, almost blind and completely deaf. He has dementia too. Dunno how much long he has left but he is a champ and most people are amazed at how well he gets around on 3 legs, almost a non issue for him although when we first got him he would frequently try to scratch his ear with his non existent leg for quite some time before giving up. It was pretty funny watching him cock his leg by standing on his two front legs :), he doesn't do that anymore though.
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Lab at my school. Analog electronics lab tour at VUT FEKT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST6QJ1Uvhf0#)
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Good looking set up there.
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I keep seeing these old crt-based computer monitor swing arms at garage sales and on craig's list for free, or next to nothing..
(http://images.craigslist.org/00909_jHb7jCTGIob_600x450.jpg)
(Image might get deleted. I honestly couldn't find a pic of it that wasn't for a LCD. I'm speaking of the old CRT monitor arms - some were rated for 21" monitors ~40 pounds - built really beefy - usually has a pull out try for a keyboard.)
I only bring it up, cause they almost seem like they would be useful on a bench? Get one one of those ratcheting belts tie downs and you could have a old scope, and maybe one or two other things suspended over the work bench, and out of the way when not needed.
What does EEVblog say?
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I don't really have much in the way of "pricey" test equipment. The four most expensive items I have purchased new are a Fluke meter, inspection microscope, cheap digital scope, and Weller SMD soldering station. They are mostly used to fix all the newer junk with crappy capacitors. Most everything else is vintage test equipment I've picked up used over the years and rebuilt. I use it to restore even older test equipment.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/images/testequipment10.jpg)
Uhm, is that a lab or a monument to vintage equipment?! :-+
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Both :-DD
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Ikea sold wire shelved in the 50's? Nice! :-DD
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I keep seeing these old crt-based computer monitor swing arms at garage sales and on craig's list for free, or next to nothing..
(http://images.craigslist.org/00909_jHb7jCTGIob_600x450.jpg)
(Image might get deleted. I honestly couldn't find a pic of it that wasn't for a LCD. I'm speaking of the old CRT monitor arms - some were rated for 21" monitors ~40 pounds - built really beefy - usually has a pull out try for a keyboard.)
I only bring it up, cause they almost seem like they would be useful on a bench? Get one one of those ratcheting belts tie downs and you could have a old scope, and maybe one or two other things suspended over the work bench, and out of the way when not needed.
What does EEVblog say?
I have not used it to support test equipment but it is handy as a monitor for my oscilloscope (see picture). It is sturdy enough to handle some heavy gear...
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...But any time a project comes along, I set up my lab in the dining room we hardly use anyways.
Pretty flexible, it takes me 5 to 8 minutes to set it up completely. Among the benefits is that every time you get started, you do it with a super clean space.
That is a really good point. I have the disability that any horizontal surface (including the top of test equipment enclosures) quickly gets cluttered with anything I once had in hand and needed to put down. I want to learn to "put away" and not just "put down" but I can't. You won't see a picture of my bench here unless it is just after a clean sweep. It's too embarrassing.
Same here. I just cleaned it up. It's only a matter of time before it gets messy again.
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My half of the hobbyroom.
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Painfully slow progress in my electronics work area, but getting there.
The shelving above the two benches seen here is now complete, but the benches are both temporary patches, till I can make ones that fit the space better. That rack of gear is still being worked on, and has a mile-long to-do list. Off picture to the right is another small bench, that will be a soldering, desoldering, SMD & microscope/video-inspection station. It's currently having shelving added for gear above it.
There are also to be some LCD screen swing arms mounted on the shelves and sides of the rack, to get monitors off the benches.
Also an 'organizer' small shelving thing to go on top of a drawers cabinet visible far left (behind the chair), to hold random stuff like battery chargers, laptops, small NAS units, USB HD docks, chip programmer, EPROM eraser, etc.
Lastly one more small workbench on lockable castors, that can be pulled in at the left of the main bench here, to give extra work surface in an L shape when needed.
You do not want to see the view looking the other way here. Big mess.
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The rack ended up looking good loaded :-+
However You should of made two smaller ones, then people could say corny stuff like Nice set of racks!! :)
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We just converted the hobby room to a nursery. I have a temporary setup in my basement shop, that may end up more permanent. I took over a nearly empty tool chest I had and filled everything up with the items I use most often. Other equipment is boxed up. You can see my component case haphazardly on top of the boxes. The current project is on the bench. Older brother is giving me some help in setting up!
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qqqBgju6pVs/UpjeYFOqwaI/AAAAAAAAEbM/1-CT9YQHWuE/w744-h556-no/13+-+1)
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Both :-DD
Is it open to the public? Could be a great eevblog episode.
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Hi folks, this is my current workbench. :scared:
Oscilloscopes: Kenwood cs-4125, Rigol ds1052e
Power Supplies: Meguro mp 303-3, Cheap chinese branded dhf-1501
Multimeters: Fluke 87, Uni-T ut61c
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Is Kenwood still around? In the US it's only know as a maker of car and home stereo gear.
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Kenwood is still very much alive in the Ham Radio world. They still make some of the best sounding radios there are.
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Oh - that's right. I forgot about ham stuff. Wikipedia says they are the same as JVC now....I think. Still an off brand in the US. Susprised they don't license it to a chiness TV maker. Lots of old folks still know the brand and need a new TV.
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I use this Kenwood in my office.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/kenwood-r20002.jpg)
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Both :-DD
Is it open to the public? Could be a great eevblog episode.
Dave would be welcome if he ever travels to this side of the globe. Since it would be a waste to just let it all sit in my shop I try to post much of it so others can view it on line:
Test equipment (http://www.stevenjohnson.com/testers-misc.htm)
Vintage Soldering Guns and Irons (http://www.stevenjohnson.com/soldering/index.html)
I use to collect mostly antique radios but saw a really unique tube tester and since I've been a tech all my life it got me interested in antique test equipment. It was a Supreme model 85C made in Greenwood Mississippi in 1934. As I found out more about the company and some of the testers they made I decided to put the information on line for other collectors. This was the first test equipment web site focused on Supreme testers: www.SupremeInstruments.org (http://www.supremeinstruments.org/)
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Is Kenwood still around? In the US it's only know as a maker of car and home stereo gear.
Kenwood is definitely still around :-+, http://www.kenwoodusa.com/ (http://www.kenwoodusa.com/). They are the official supplier for mclaren mercedes f1 team. But i can't find any new electronics test equipments by them :-//.
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Is Kenwood still around? In the US it's only know as a maker of car and home stereo gear.
Here in Italy, that kind of Kenwood devices diseappeared many years ago (and that's a shame); now we have only kitchen robots by Kenwood :--
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Just had a serious tidy up so snapped a few pics!
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Is Kenwood still around? In the US it's only know as a maker of car and home stereo gear.
Kenwood is definitely still around :-+, http://www.kenwoodusa.com/ (http://www.kenwoodusa.com/). They are the official supplier for mclaren mercedes f1 team.
But i can't find any new electronics test equipments by them :-//.
Kenwood TMI [Test & Measurement Instruments] is now named TEXIO http://www.texio.co.jp/en/index.html (http://www.texio.co.jp/en/index.html)
(http://www.texio.co.jp/en/images_general/general/company_02_02.jpg) (http://www.texio.co.jp/en/index.html)
http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/manufacturer/TEXIO%20Kenwood/Power-Supplies/ (http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/manufacturer/TEXIO%20Kenwood/Power-Supplies/)
TEXIO is the parent company of Kenwood. TEXIO branded products began selling in 2006. Some products may be marketed under both names. Texio (Kenwood) Corporation was founded 1996, equipmented manufactured includes: Regulated DC Power Supplies, Electronic Loads, Oscilloscopes, Audio/ Visual related testing instruments, In-vehcle LAN related testing instruments(CAN), Testing instruments for aviation electronic equipment.
Good Will Instrument Co., Ltd. [a.k.a. GW Instek] is now the owner of TEXIO according to TEXIO's website:
Company: http://www.texio.co.jp/en/02comp_02.html (http://www.texio.co.jp/en/02comp_02.html)
Shareholder Good Will Instrument Co., Ltd.
History: http://www.texio.co.jp/en/02comp_03.html (http://www.texio.co.jp/en/02comp_03.html)
2012
...Established TEXIO TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION affiliated of GOOD WILL INSTRUMENTS CO.,LTD
Power supply and electric measuring instruments business have been transferred to TEXIO TECHNOLOGY from NIKKE TECHNO SYSTEM...
You can still buy power supplies designed in the Kenwood TMI era, now just with the TEXIO name on them (see example below).
TEXIO also sells re-branded oscilloscopes from their owner GW Instek.
GW Instek GDS-2000A Series (http://www.gwinstek.com/en/product/productdetail.aspx?pid=3&mid=7&id=1349) is now sold rebranded as TEXIO DCS-9700 Series (http://www.texio.co.jp/en/03prod_01_03_DCS-9700.html).
(http://www.gwinstek.com/product/images/picture/FC_2012109144736.jpg)
(http://www.denyousya.co.jp/data/20130321.jpg)
(http://img-asia.electrocomponents.com/largeimages/R6637784-80.jpg)
PD36-20AD with TEXIO sticker http://www.texio.co.jp/en/03prod_01_01_0201.html (http://www.texio.co.jp/en/03prod_01_01_0201.html)
http://jp.rs-online.com/web/p/bench-power-supplies/6637784/ (http://jp.rs-online.com/web/p/bench-power-supplies/6637784/)
(http://www.tradeport.on.ca/dat/products/174.jpg)
PD36-20AD with Kenwood sticker
(http://www.keisokuki-land.co.jp/images/PW-A-640.jpg)
PW18-1.8AQ with TEXIO sticker http://www.texio.co.jp/en/03prod_01_01_0101.html (http://www.texio.co.jp/en/03prod_01_01_0101.html)
(http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/images/products/KENWOOD_PW18-1.8AQ.JPG)
PW18-1.8AQ with Kenwood sticker
http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/manufacturer/TEXIO%20Kenwood/Power-Supplies/ (http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/manufacturer/TEXIO%20Kenwood/Power-Supplies/)
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(http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/images/products/KENWOOD_PW18-1.8AQ.JPG)
PW18-1.8AQ with Kenwood sticker
http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/manufacturer/TEXIO%20Kenwood/Power-Supplies/ (http://www.testequipmentconnection.com/manufacturer/TEXIO%20Kenwood/Power-Supplies/)
wow, that Kenwood PW18-1.8AQ cost $1,576.00 :o
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Is Kenwood still around? In the US it's only know as a maker of car and home stereo gear.
Here in Italy, that kind of Kenwood devices diseappeared many years ago (and that's a shame); now we have only kitchen robots by Kenwood :--
That's a different Kenwood -- Kenwood Corporation (the hi-fi/ham/car radio/test equipment company) is Japanese, and adopted the Kenwood name to sound more local and dependable in the American market (their original name, which was used in parallel elsewhere in the world for a while, was Trio). Kenwood Limited (the kitchen equipment company) is/was a British company founded by a chap called Ken Wood, who was inspired by American kitchen machines to make something similar for the market here (the Kenwood Chef); that company was bought by DeLonghi about ten years ago but still operates under the original name.
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I still have and use a Kenwood 850SAT HF rig at my cabin. Works great. The new Kenwood stuff is kinda falling behind the new Yaesu and Icom stuff, But the audio is still top notch. My home radio is a Yaesu FT-1000D and its hard to listen to or use any other radio now. I am Spoiled!
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Callexanian, I also have an 850 in my shack. It is my primary rig right now until my 940 comes back from the repair center. I also have a TM-281 2 meter here in the shack. I was an ICOM guy for a long time but switched to Kenwood. I still have an ICOM 207H in my car.
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They are all pretty good.
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I have played with and listened to, quite a few radios over the last 14 years. To me, there is nothing quite like Kenwood receive audio. The transmit audio is also excellent. I use a Heil Traveler dual headset and a cheapie Warren Gregiore headset and always get unsolicited good audio reports.
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Here are some pictures of my workbench:
I had been using a folding table with stuff stacked up on top of it...
(https://krux.org/gallery/var/resizes/electronics/Workbench---2009/5779908.jpg?m=1387835326)
That fell over one day, so I restacked it, but this time fastened it to the wall... this is how it remained for several years.
(https://krux.org/gallery/var/resizes/electronics/Workbench---2009/23458770.jpg?m=1387835325)
https://krux.org/gallery/index.php/electronics/Workbench---2009 (https://krux.org/gallery/index.php/electronics/Workbench---2009)
The problem with that setup, is I didn't really have a whole lot of room to work. The bench usually wasn't deep enough for any of my larger projects. So in 2013 I decided to redesign my workbench. As the base, I used a motorized drafting table I picked up from The Black Hole in New Mexico, purchased from Atomic Ed himself many years ago (he also gave me the New Mexico flag) I used a couple metal "bread" racks as the risers, and then welded metal frames to support the horizontal shelving. With the way I have the bench setup, I can't actually adjust the angle or height of the drafting table, though in my years of having it, I rarely did so anyway.
(https://krux.org/gallery/var/resizes/electronics/Workbench---2013/IMG_1322.JPG?m=1387834235)
(https://krux.org/gallery/var/resizes/electronics/Workbench---2013/IMG_1324.JPG?m=1387834227)
Above you can also see the improvised 2M ham radio antenna (K7KRX) which worked so well, it just kind of stayed in place.
https://krux.org/gallery/index.php/electronics/Workbench---2013 (https://krux.org/gallery/index.php/electronics/Workbench---2013)
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(https://krux.org/gallery/var/resizes/electronics/Workbench---2013/IMG_1324.JPG?m=1387834227)
You have a huge space, you might want to rearrange the tables or even add table(s) to get more space to work.. :-+
p/s: The penguin is adorable. :clap:
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The motivational penguin. I keep a motivational lobster on top of my monitor. :-DD
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Was there not a bit in Monty Python that said something like "It is now time for the penguin on top of your television to explode" I need a bench Mascot.
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Was there not a bit in Monty Python that said something like "It is now time for the penguin on top of your television to explode" I need a bench Mascot.
I believe there was.
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I have put up 64 pics of my shack on my blog that I took today I wont spam the eevblog with all of them just one and a link to the post on my blog
http://twistedshack.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/photos-of-shack-all-setup.html (http://twistedshack.blogspot.com.au/2013/12/photos-of-shack-all-setup.html)
It has tools, test gear, ham radio gear, Computers, Fishtank, Audio Gear and just heaps, the wife calls it the tardis as she has no idea how I mange to fit it all in. There is even and arc welder under the desk. I used to be messy but had to change my habits to fit all my gear in a small space when we moved to a two bedroom unit. The bakyard is about 12 meters long and 3 meters wide
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Was there not a bit in Monty Python that said something like "It is now time for the penguin on top of your television to explode" I need a bench Mascot.
I believe there was.
Here ya go
Monty Python - Exploding Penguin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k1ccguXiws#)
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Yeah, that was the one!
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Yeah, that was the one!
This episode was hilarious. I especially love the part where the old lady asks "What's on TV" and another replies "Well I suppose it's a penguin." The naming body parts show was pretty good as well.
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That video is so funny.
I have been working on my workbench build, sorry forgot to take pictures, but for now I have been using my desk which looks insanely messy and crowded.
I will try to take some pictures and post back. At least it going to look very nice.
HNY
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I have been working on my workbench build, sorry forgot to take pictures, but for now I have been using my desk which looks insanely messy and crowded.
Gulp ... Watch where you step!
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I have been working on my workbench build, sorry forgot to take pictures, but for now I have been using my desk which looks insanely messy and crowded.
Roman, Good Lord, was that picture taken before or after the hurricane blew through? :-DD
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Forgot to mention it looked like that one. but pretty close. Cannot find my camera in this mess to take a picture of mine.
Edit: Found It.
Edit2:
Image 306 - Left to right there is my Server and Server Desk/Mini workstation - Test Desk, HP reflowed repaired MB Linux Live system (use this one for data recovery), Very useful humidity control machine, some laptops to hack parts from, more repaired boards, and a very expensive parts box.
But as you can see it is all spread out to the point I sometimes cannot do nothing.
Image 304 - The other side of the room ( hope to call it lab soon) My desk in all it glory made of real wood, too many printers, my DIY bench PSU, a salvaged Dell C610, tear-downs Im "working" on(ipod classic,PAP2, belking router, etc.) just too many junk in one confined space.
New Years resolution take out all the mess and junk OUT. :-+
I'll post the finished new station later. It look nice and is not even complete.
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* messy_desk_contest_winner.jpg
Blimey, a bash picture. Retro!
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I finally have proof for SWMBO that I don't have the messiest desk or lab on the planet... not a by a long shot... thank you, Roman.
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I finally have proof for SWMBO that I don't have the messiest desk or lab on the planet... not a by a long shot... thank you, Roman.
LOL, that's exactly what I did... Look luv, look
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Recently I have been turning this
(http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-jWXbXXx/0/L/i-jWXbXXx-L.jpg)
into this
(http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-DZSdLFp/0/L/i-DZSdLFp-L.jpg)
It's still a work in progress... 8)
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Formply for the desktop?
I use that for benchtops in my shed (non electronic). Nothing sticks to it, easy to keep clean.
I'd have gone for melamine shelving, water resistant and easy to clean.
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Formply for the desktop?
I use that for benchtops in my shed (non electronic). Nothing sticks to it, easy to keep clean.
I'd have gone for melamine shelving, water resistant and easy to clean.
Yep, formply.
Apart from that and a crapload of angle brackets it's pretty much a garage scrap heap special. I figure I'm not likely to get water anywhere in a hurry, and if I get desperate I can get some sealer and paint on it.
I'll keep melamine in mind for Mk III though. :)
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@andtfoot
I would round off those table corners before you run into them.
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Yep, formply.
Apart from that and a crapload of angle brackets it's pretty much a garage scrap heap special. I figure I'm not likely to get water anywhere in a hurry, and if I get desperate I can get some sealer and paint on it.
I'll keep melamine in mind for Mk III though. :)
Hey, congratulations addtfoot!! :-+ , personally i hate to use brackets for shelving. I came across this: http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/S59895846/ (http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/S59895846/) , it seems like a nice way to add shelves without drilling the wall but then the maximum weight stated is 10kg. :-//
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(http://www.iceisfun.com/bench_12_26_2013.jpg)
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I'll keep melamine in mind for Mk III though. :)
If you go to a built in kitchen manufacturer ask them nicely if they have any offcuts or reject sheets, or removed ones. Free or very cheap, and plenty good for a worktop. A few scuff marks and chips are not going to worry somebody who will be dropping a hot soldering iron on it at some time.
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andfoot, I used rails and adjustable brackets. There are shelving brackets up to 18", mine are 11.5". Not sure why they are not 12" :-//. This way you can adjust shelving height as things or moods change. I use medium density fiberboard for my shelves (1/2") and 3/4" for my work surface.
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andfoot, I used rails and adjustable brackets. There are shelving brackets up to 18", mine are 11.5". Not sure why they are not 12" :-//. This way you can adjust shelving height as things or moods change. I use medium density fiberboard for my shelves (1/2") and 3/4" for my work surface.
How ironic you should mention shelving... ;) I just finished cutting the steel to make the frame to finally add some shelving to the workbench I built last year. A friend is going to weld it up tomorrow, then I can drill for fasteners, and finally hit it with spray paint.
For the actual shelving, I'm using a similar adjustable setup, but found 16" deep, 3/4" thick laminated shelves (melamine on particle board). Will add 1"x1" steel angle to strengthen them up a bit to make sure it won't sag, even though it will have 3 brackets to support it. The angle will also add a lip so the equipment to help prevent me from knocking it off, as I'm a bit of a klutz (inner ear problems, trying to get it sorted). :-[
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I was tempted to go the adjustable shelving route but in this case the shelving is being used to provide support to the uprights (it's freestanding) so I needed it to be pretty rigid.
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I was tempted to go the adjustable shelving route but in this case the shelving is being used to provide support to the uprights (it's freestanding) so I needed it to be pretty rigid.
What I've built is also free standing (it will bolt to the rear legs of the table).
I would have preferred 1.5" square tubing, but it was more money than I was willing to spend. So I went with 1.5" angle instead (same material the table is made of, but weight just pushes down in it, so flex isn't a concern). Hopefully it will be strong enough not to try and flex towards the front of the table (wanted to keep anything structural off of the table top).
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Got two of them, at least.
Analog & Digital.
First one in the basement, 2nd one in the night.
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I don't think I've posted this here, so here goes. Here's a video tour of my lab...
Video Tour of my Lab and Workbench - Oscilloscopes and meters and power supplies, oh my! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94mOGNe5kfo#ws)
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Here is the current setup. I have a lot more space available out in my shop, but here in the desert it is too hot to work out there eight months of the year. I can't justify the air conditioning cost so I keep it all inside.
I need a better strategy for managing cables. They take on a life of their own like a nest of snakes.
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I don't think I've posted this here, so here goes. Here's a video tour of my lab...
Video Tour of my Lab and Workbench - Oscilloscopes and meters and power supplies, oh my! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94mOGNe5kfo#ws)
Nice "stacks" of gear, a place for everything and everything in its place! :-+. Just love those old TEK oscilloscopes with the 465B being my first when I got my first job way back when.... (got to get one as a memento).
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I don't think I've posted this here, so here goes. Here's a video tour of my lab...
Thanks. Now you've got me drooling. >:D :P
Amazing restoration work IMHO. :)
Here is the current setup. I have a lot more space available out in my shop, but here in the desert it is too hot to work out there eight months of the year. I can't justify the air conditioning cost so I keep it all inside.
I need a better strategy for managing cables. They take on a life of their own like a nest of snakes.
Nice and clean. :) Mine usually looks like a tornado hit it.
I have to ask though, what's with the carpet on the bench? Just for impact/non-scuff protection when there's no ESD issues?
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I need a better strategy for managing cables. They take on a life of their own like a nest of snakes.
Try Velcro ties, i use them on my computer desk and if you dont thread them through them-self it is very quick to rewire,
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Here is the current setup. I have a lot more space available out in my shop, but here in the desert it is too hot to work out there eight months of the year. I can't justify the air conditioning cost so I keep it all inside.
I need a better strategy for managing cables. They take on a life of their own like a nest of snakes.
Nice and clean. :) Mine usually looks like a tornado hit it.
I have to ask though, what's with the carpet on the bench? Just for impact/non-scuff protection when there's no ESD issues?
Thanks, but the clean state never lasts very long... :-\
That's exactly what the carpet scrap is for. It keeps radios and other equipment from getting scratched up while I pull the covers off. I need a nice ESD mat.
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I need a better strategy for managing cables. They take on a life of their own like a nest of snakes.
Try Velcro ties, i use them on my computer desk and if you dont thread them through them-self it is very quick to rewire,
Thanks for the idea. I'll give that a try.
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I need a better strategy for managing cables. They take on a life of their own like a nest of snakes.
Try Velcro ties, i use them on my computer desk and if you dont thread them through them-self it is very quick to rewire,
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/velcro.jpg)
For those that are on a budget, this 45 foot roll of garden Velcro for tying plants is under three dollars US. Got it at my local garden store. It's not as reusable as the regular Velcro but for tying wires behind the bench it works great, can be cut to the size needed and you can pull it apart and reuse it at least 10-20 times.
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I use to be a video editor..(well still am) - and we had to deal with way more cables then any electronics lab. One trick I found was to mark the level of your desk, and paint anything below it black. Cables disappear.
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I need a better strategy for managing cables. They take on a life of their own like a nest of snakes.
Try Velcro ties, i use them on my computer desk and if you dont thread them through them-self it is very quick to rewire,
I use some of these "Supreme Pro Cables: CT10 Cable Strips" velcro ties bought at my local musical instrument store. There's a small hole in them so you can make a loop around the wire itself so they stay put while you use the wire rolled out.
Nice for laptop and phone chargers and other wires you often bring with you.
http://www.4sound.dk/shop/kabel-i-metermaal/supreme-pro-cables/ct10-cable-strips.html (http://www.4sound.dk/shop/kabel-i-metermaal/supreme-pro-cables/ct10-cable-strips.html)
You can find similar cheaper at Aliexpress and eBay. For example these:
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/910586/search?SearchText=velcro (http://www.aliexpress.com/store/910586/search?SearchText=velcro)
http://stores.ebay.com/beautyzz2009/_i.html?_nkw=7pcs+velcro (http://stores.ebay.com/beautyzz2009/_i.html?_nkw=7pcs+velcro)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/300946548084 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/300946548084)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261357098891 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/261357098891)
(http://image.4sound.dk/i/47882/supreme-pro-cables-ct10-cable-strips-kabel-i-meterm%C3%A5l.jpg)
(http://image.4sound.dk/productimage/gallery.asp?productnumber=47882&filename=47882_3.jpg)
(http://image.4sound.dk/productimage/gallery.asp?productnumber=47882&filename=47882_4.jpg)
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Same thing here (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Velcro-Reusable-Self-Gripping-Cable-Ties-1-2-x-8-Long-Black-100-Ties-Pack/14917793) at a better price. 100 pieces for $6.49
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Same thing here (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Velcro-Reusable-Self-Gripping-Cable-Ties-1-2-x-8-Long-Black-100-Ties-Pack/14917793) at a better price. 100 pieces for $6.49
Perfect! Thanks!
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I need a nice ESD mat.
Sorry I missed this bit. :-[
You might want to take a look at this store on eBay (http://stores.ebay.com/canvu0-0?_trksid=p2047675.l2563) for a 2 layer rubber ESD mat.
Lots of ready-made sizes, can specify color (blue, grey, green), and textured or smooth finish (smooth only in 30" wide, which is what I bought). Can also do custom sizes if you need it, and excellent prices for US & Canada (where seller is located, and mats are made there as well FWIW). Just install the ground snap that comes with it, and you're ready to go (very easy to do).
Hope this helps. :)
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I am using a lean model for my home mini lab. It is in my home office and wanted to keep things simple and with small footprint, such that I 'fold up' the lab when I am doing other things and I don't let the chaos built up as it usually does. The solution was getting a large toolbox where I can store tools and parts and being self discipline on not buying stuff I don't really need and not buying big things if smaller ones are good enough. So far it works very well. I can find things easily whenever I need them and freeing and cleaning the desk takes no more than 10 minutes.
Here are a few pictures
(http://i.imgur.com/GJeIdTv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8VqHbHx.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PYUe6O7.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sYSTAJI.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/XmGm90k.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/hnzEsXE.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/PMSjMli.jpg)
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I am using a lean model for my home mini lab. It is in my home office and wanted to keep things simple and with small footprint, such that I 'fold up' the lab when I am doing other things and I don't let the chaos built up as it usually does. The solution was getting a large toolbox where I can store tools and parts and being self discipline on not buying stuff I don't really need and not buying big things if smaller ones are good enough. So far it works very well. I can find things easily whenever I need them and freeing and cleaning the desk takes no more than 10 minutes.
Wow, that's a clean bench! ;D
I like the toolbox, but sadly, I don't have the room right now to even think about one. Seriously considering adding some pegboard to the back of mine once I finish up the shelving system I'm currently working on.
BTW, it's hard to tell, but is that a Metcal solder station in the upper right corner of the first pic?
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BTW, it's hard to tell, but is that a Metcal solder station in the upper right corner of the first pic?
I'm sure that's a Metcal MX-500 soldering system like this: http://wiki.ladyada.net/tutorials/library/smt/metcaliron.html (http://wiki.ladyada.net/tutorials/library/smt/metcaliron.html)
(http://www.ladyada.net/images/smt/metcal.jpg)
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Well, here's my bench. I know, it's a mess!
Note: The purse on the chair is not mine :)
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BTW, it's hard to tell, but is that a Metcal solder station in the upper right corner of the first pic?
I'm sure that's a Metcal MX-500 soldering system like this: http://wiki.ladyada.net/tutorials/library/smt/metcaliron.html (http://wiki.ladyada.net/tutorials/library/smt/metcaliron.html)
(http://www.ladyada.net/images/smt/metcal.jpg)
MX-500 is what I use for surface mount. Love those wide blade cartridges. I can drop out through hole 2803's in a few seconds and flip the board over and drop a new one in! A common repair on our boards. Also we use 16X2 lcd displays with a 14 pin header (We don't have backlights on them) and just heat that header in two shots and whip the display right off nice and clean.
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Heres a pic of my loft workshop. Had to update the test meter shelving after treating myself to a Rigol DSA815-TG last week!
Got a 360 pano version with zoom on http://www.apexviews.co.uk/tour/113 (http://www.apexviews.co.uk/tour/113)
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Heres a pic of my loft workshop.
Can I move in with you? I'm an excellent room mate and I cook well! Pleeeease.
Did you post that earlier in this thread or is it an update? I seem to recall a lasercutter somewhere?
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My reaction to briandorey lab:
(http://www.mnwhitetails.com/pics/drool.gif)
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Heres a pic of my loft workshop.
Can I move in with you? I'm an excellent room mate and I cook well! Pleeeease.
Did you post that earlier in this thread or is it an update? I seem to recall a lasercutter somewhere?
I did post a few months ago but have since got a new scope, signal analyser, added new storage shelving and built the diy pick and place machine. havent got room for a laser cutter :(
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Yeah Very nice! :clap: :clap:
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A nice lab.
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Some update from my lab, I couldn’t do anything last 10 months because of my work first, than vacation and when we came back we bought a bigger house so I was busy with that another couple months.
Anyway I had finally some time to build my lab in the new house, room is smaller than old one but space is all for the lab, in the old room I had to share the space with a freezer, washing machine and dryer, so now I got more space. We have bigger rooms but couldn’t agree with my wife to use one of those :-\
The bench is same as old one, I just took it off and mounted here in the new house, but I build a new corner for my machines and also got myself a tool board.
Like I said room is narrow but it is enough to do my thing, luckily my machines are in miniature form so I can put them on the bench and do my work:
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z298/Bl4ckW0lfi3/new_lab__finished001_zpseecdccf7.jpg)
Bench is same as before, didn’t change much:
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z298/Bl4ckW0lfi3/new_lab__finished002_zps377be558.jpg)
The new machine corner, have to something about the wires later on:
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z298/Bl4ckW0lfi3/new_lab__finished004_zps99a26fc5.jpg)
And the tool board:
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z298/Bl4ckW0lfi3/new_lab__finished003_zps6231aa4f.jpg)
Well finally I can start with my projects and keep up my Youtube channel from now on :)
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Beautiful shop there Spawn :clap: :clap: :-+
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The new machine corner, have to something about the wires later on:
Would love to see some reviews of these Proxxon tools ...
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Yelling over at my bench, "Why can't you be clean like that?" Oh, wait..... :palm:
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(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/850/o854.jpg)
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Bench is same as before, didn’t change much:
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z298/Bl4ckW0lfi3/new_lab__finished002_zps377be558.jpg)
Nice and very tidy lab. The only thing I don't like is the oscilloscopes not being placed in table height. I can't believe how most put their oscilloscopes up on a shelf in this topic. If you use it regularly it's much more ergonomic to have it in table height tilting slightly upwards.
But what are you doing with what looks like at least 17 multimeters? :-DMM Are you collecting multimeters instead of stamps?
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Nice and very tidy lab. The only thing I don't like is the oscilloscopes not being placed in table height. I can't believe how most put their oscilloscopes up on a shelf in this topic. If you use it regularly it's much more ergonomic to have it in table height tilting slightly upwards.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/pics/workbench2013-640.jpg)
The problem with many older scopes is the depth. My old Tek stays up on the shelf as it would stick out too far on the bench. The smaller DS stays on the bench though.
It would drive me nuts to have one way off to the side. I like them in the center so I don't have to constantly turn my head. It's kind of nice having the Tek on the shelf right in front of my face as it's easier to see and operate with my older eyes.
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Thanks guys :)
Would love to see some reviews of these Proxxon tools ...
I wouldn’t know which one to review, most Proxxon’s I got are for mechanics work, Proxxon soldering station is out of production for long time, maybe the drill press and table saw are intresting for electronics job :-//
For those who never seen a Proxxon soldering station:
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z298/Bl4ckW0lfi3/Proxxon_DL450_zpsdd966f88.jpg)
The only thing I don't like is the oscilloscopes not being placed in table height.
But what are you doing with what looks like at least 17 multimeters? :-DMM Are you collecting multimeters instead of stamps?
Like SLJ mentioned the CRO scopes are difficult to put on your bench because of their depth, and I don’t use the scopes constantly like most guys here if I did I would get a DSO and put it on the bench indeed.
Yes I am collecting stamps AND mulitmeters ;D I got over 30 I think:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/show-your-multimeter!/msg248927/#msg248927 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/show-your-multimeter!/msg248927/#msg248927)
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Hi all,
Just wanted to share some pictures of my basement lab... The lab function as a hobby room for my rc-helicopters and as a lab for my electronics projects.
My wife and I bought an old hose for approx. 1.5 yrs. ago, the biggest room in the basement used to be some kind of a storage room for gardening tools, plants, garbage and a whole lot of other shit.
The floor was nasty and there had been a flooding there some years earlier due to some clogged draining (fixed now). Due to the flooding there was some rot in the wooden cladding on the walls and the outer door was full of rot (yes, my lab has its own outer door, meaning I can drag new equipment and stuff inn without the wife ever noticing it :-+). Overall, it was not a nice room (sorry have no pics|O)....
I was allowed by the wife to use it for whatever I wanted... so I started some remodelling and this is what came out of it, it is still not yet completed, still need to add more shelving and storage containers, and I am thinking of making an additional bench on wheels...
Some of the pictures are from when I just had removed the old walls and cladding, some are from after the new walls where put up and some I just took a few days ago (sorry for the quallity, mobile phone you know...)
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Whats in the safe?
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Whats in the safe?
Sadly nothing of great value... For the time I am using it for storaging all my lipo batteries for my rc helis....
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My current setup (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/facepalm.gif)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=79862)
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My current setup (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/facepalm.gif)
Nothing to be embarrassed about IMHO. :)
Keep in mind, some, if not most of the benches you see with loads of gear on, took their owners years to acquire.
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My current setup (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/facepalm.gif)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=79862)
Confucius say, "Journey of 10,000 miles begins with first oscilloscope." ;D
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Confucius say, "Journey of 10,000 miles begins with first oscilloscope." ;D
And the Tek 465 is a nice one.
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Confucius say, "Journey of 10,000 miles begins with first oscilloscope." ;D
And the Tek 465 is a nice one.
And lots of power supplies.
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I'm still looking for a good shot of most of my gear all on the work table at once, but here's a shot of my toy collection, at least in terms of one special kind of toy:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8037/7998314828_cdce34f634_b.jpg)
bought on ebay a year or two ago when I was going thru a buying binge, right after I heard about the PDI precision units ;)
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I'm still looking for a good shot of most of my gear all on the work table at once, but here's a shot of my toy collection, at least in terms of one special kind of toy:
bought on ebay a year or two ago when I was going thru a buying binge, right after I heard about the PDI precision units ;)
Nice little collection there. :) Care to part with any? :o :P
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perhaps ;)
I admit I overbought. a little... lol!
lately, I'm getting a bit more focused on remote control of gear, so I bought this psu:
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2833/12122527203_cce4742001_c.jpg)
(and also that funct. gen; also SCPI and rs232 remote controllable). no, the heath nixie is not ;)
I was able to find an older shot of my living room lab (heh), back when I was at a previous house:
(http://netstuff.org/living_room_test_gear.jpg)
I ran out of room in the 'dirty room' (soldering, drilling, etc) and so my good gear got moved to the living room area. no surprise, most of my house looks like that anyway!
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Confucius say, "Journey of 10,000 miles begins with first oscilloscope." ;D
I got a Philips PM3209* 40MHz too (goes lower resolution in vertical that the Tek), but no space currently. :)
I bought it for $40 (with original Philips probes and operator manual!) with the FG for 'free'. Display of the FG is not working correctly. Still analysing why it is not working, but got some ideas. Else it works just dandy.
Nothing to be embarrassed about IMHO. :)
Not at all :D
Getting a proper bench installed on Saturday \o/
Here is the 'before' shot.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=79882)
This gives you an idea of the space it will be expanded to (850mm x 1800mm bench with cupboards at the bottom with dual 450mm racks on top).
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=79884)
And lots of power supplies.
Got a cheap Atten, and a shit load of wall warts (they count dont they? ;p)
* Pity I cant find a service manual for it :(
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My current setup (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/facepalm.gif)
I wish I had the same when I started, I just had a multimeter and a solder iron like 32 years ago, and it took me loooooooong way to get my first scope and the rest of the gear.
David.
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My current setup (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/facepalm.gif)
I wish I had the same when I started, I just had a multimeter and a solder iron like 32 years ago, and it took me loooooooong way to get my first scope and the rest of the gear.
David.
If I wait 32 years, I'll be 71! :D
Took me till my 4th career choice to understand what I like (software development). Electronics became a passion recently (and I have some cash now), but always been interested.
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no, the heath nixie is not ;)
Sounds like a challenge to me. Hack it! You know you want it! >:D
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lol. it could be possible.
a guy on this forum had started an arduino SCPI parser and I'm somewhat interested in continuing along that path. a simple command to read the current frequency could be done in a controller and if a copy of the current bcd encoding (7441 style) could be latched, this could actually be doable.
if its worth that effort, THAT I don't know ;)
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This gives you an idea of the space it will be expanded to (850mm x 1800mm bench with cupboards at the bottom with dual 450mm racks on top).
Quite an upgrade about to happen then. ;D
Just added a shelving system to mine (entire bench is DIY'ed out of welded steel angle and an old office desktop). Still need to cut a couple of boards, and I"ll be done. And of course clean all the tools to build this thing up first so there's room for gear. :P
Hope to post pics of it all finished up in the next couple of weeks. :)
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Quite an upgrade about to happen then. ;D
Just added a shelving system to mine (entire bench is DIY'ed out of welded steel angle and an old office desktop). Still need to cut a couple of boards, and I"ll be done. And of course clean all the tools to build this thing up first so there's room for gear. :P
Hope to post pics of it all finished up in the next couple of weeks. :)
I wanted to go the DIY route, but thought, screw that :) Seeing how much effort it was to remove the old cupboard, I am glad I did (cost of time and all). Costing around $300. Will post pics after completion.
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Quite an upgrade about to happen then. ;D
Just added a shelving system to mine (entire bench is DIY'ed out of welded steel angle and an old office desktop). Still need to cut a couple of boards, and I"ll be done. And of course clean all the tools to build this thing up first so there's room for gear. :P
Hope to post pics of it all finished up in the next couple of weeks. :)
I wanted to go the DIY route, but thought, screw that :) Seeing how much effort it was to remove the old cupboard, I am glad I did (cost of time and all). Costing around $300. Will post pics after completion.
Buying ready-made in my case would have run $1k USD or more, so that wasn't really an option. :o No problems with used, but couldn't locate one that was close enough to get it at a reasonable cost, so DIY was really my only choice.
Once I'm done, I'll be able to properly cost it out, but I think it's going to come in around the $450 mark or so.
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Buying ready-made in my case would have run $1k USD or more, so that wasn't really an option. :o No problems with used, but couldn't locate one that was close enough to get it at a reasonable cost, so DIY was really my only choice.
Once I'm done, I'll be able to properly cost it out, but I think it's going to come in around the $450 mark or so.
DIY makes sense if you have the tools... I dont even own a drill! Dont think my Dremel will cut it (no pun intended).
Mine is a custom job though. Going wall-to-wall. The cupboards are being made up from the old cupboard.
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This is some years of ebay "for parts" scores ...
(http://imageshack.us/a/img713/5644/r0jw.jpg)
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(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/850/o854.jpg)
Amiga...?
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DIY makes sense if you have the tools... I dont even own a drill! Dont think my Dremel will cut it (no pun intended).
:-DD
Didn't need that many tools though. Just needed a drill, mitre saw, and a few basic hand tools for fasteners. Paid a friend to weld it up for me, as I don't have a welder, let alone know how.
Mine is a custom job though. Going wall-to-wall. The cupboards are being made up from the old cupboard.
Sounds quite nice. :) Also like the fact you reused/re-purposed what you already had. ;D
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Our new 6' fume extracting workbench made from a Clean Bench. I had to reverse the air flow, remove the dirty HEPA filter and replace with 2 regular 20x25 AC filters. If we end up doing a bunch more soldering, I will use carbon filters.
It is wired with GFCI plugs, 4ft 4x F5 bulb Home Depot Shop Light, 4 Tripp Lite power strips and has 3 separate power cords to divvy up the load.
Yes it is overkill, but I had the old clean bench from a defunct business venture and it was destined for salvage.
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:-+ :-+ :-+ :-+ :-+ UPI, glad you found a use for it, bad because I didn't get a chance to dumpster dive it |O.
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:-+ :-+ :-+ :-+ :-+ UPI, glad you found a use for it, bad because I didn't get a chance to dumpster dive it |O.
You guys work/ed together? ???
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/850/o854.jpg (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1280x1024q90/850/o854.jpg)
Amiga...?
Amiga 600 in the middle of the workbench, Amiga 500 motherboard for parts sitting to the left, and a 286 laptop motherboard at the back, which had a leaky battery, an exploded part on the power supply board, and I'm meant to be fixing, but may have dismantled it, and have no idea how it goes back together :-DD
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@UPI, I spy a Fluke 1952B
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@UPI, I spy a Fluke 1952B
Very close - 1953A Counter Timer that is collecting dust at the moment.
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Looks similar to my broken 1952B.
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I have a working 1952A that was a $10 USD find from a hamfest.
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At school we have this 50GHz beast.
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50ghz and still using floppies?
wow. your arm must get tired!
lol
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Well, there is also an USB port for a portable flash disc. It is compatible with my 8GB disc. The Agilent vector analyzer is probably made in 2005. Floppy discs were used in that year.
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it was sort of a joke. oh well.
OT: I once attended a 'computer music festival' (in the late 70's, iirc) that had some guy with several boxes of 8" floppies, all numbered. he and this computer were up on the stage and he described how he digitized this classical music piece (not sure if audio or just midi-equiv or raw notes) but it took weeks on his 8080 cpu. his performance was to stand there and swap 2 floppy bays with 8" floppies, real time, so that his computer would play this rendered classical piece and not have a 'buffer under-run' ;) I think he had to swap floppies ever 3 or 4 seconds, so it got challenging to keep it going for several minutes at a time and not drop a single floppy or jam one.
(ok, back to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress..)
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Hi all,
Just wanted to share some pictures of my basement lab... The lab function as a hobby room for my rc-helicopters and as a lab for my electronics projects.
My wife and I bought an old hose for approx. 1.5 yrs. ago, the biggest room in the basement used to be some kind of a storage room for gardening tools, plants, garbage and a whole lot of other shit.
The floor was nasty and there had been a flooding there some years earlier due to some clogged draining (fixed now). Due to the flooding there was some rot in the wooden cladding on the walls and the outer door was full of rot (yes, my lab has its own outer door, meaning I can drag new equipment and stuff inn without the wife ever noticing it :-+). Overall, it was not a nice room (sorry have no pics|O)....
I was allowed by the wife to use it for whatever I wanted... so I started some remodelling and this is what came out of it, it is still not yet completed, still need to add more shelving and storage containers, and I am thinking of making an additional bench on wheels...
Some of the pictures are from when I just had removed the old walls and cladding, some are from after the new walls where put up and some I just took a few days ago (sorry for the quallity, mobile phone you know...)
Really nice lab, well done!.........My own has a long "L" shape bench which is really useful.
I was sweating there for a moment though, that green Safe seems to be keeping an eye on you all though the renovation.......but then it dissappeared for a while till I saw it again in the last photo.....phew!
Btw, drummer or guitarist?
Ian.
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Argh, I'm so jealous of all of you with your "meter" this and your "analyzer" that. |O
When my bench is finished I'll take a picture.
My wife, who is not really pleased at all with a lot of my purchases saw some of your setups as I was looking through them and said things like "ooh, that's nice," and "why doesn't yours look like that, that's awesome" etc.
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(http://fotkidepo.ru/photo/115530/9515ZdJQKBoMHD/976825w.jpg) (http://fotkidepo.ru/photo/115530/9515ZdJQKBoMHD/mMYpb1vgGY/976825.jpg)
(http://fotkidepo.ru/photo/115530/9515ZdJQKBoMHD/976824w.jpg) (http://fotkidepo.ru/photo/115530/9515ZdJQKBoMHD/mMYpb1vgGY/976824.jpg)
(http://fotkidepo.ru/photo/115530/9515ZdJQKBoMHD/976823w.jpg) (http://fotkidepo.ru/photo/115530/9515ZdJQKBoMHD/mMYpb1vgGY/976823.jpg)
Home lab, as for current state (KI 2002 not shown, but present :)).
I guess this photos can be labeled "Need new & proper table for bench".
Will move another apartment (rent on this one expires soon :)) and get myself to build proper benchplace.
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My wife, who is not really pleased at all with a lot of my purchases saw some of your setups as I was looking through them and said things like "ooh, that's nice," and "why doesn't yours look like that, that's awesome" etc.
I hope you worded your answer carefully ;)
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Here's my one.
I'm 17 and this is my first lab (if you can call it that), in my bedroom.
I'm slowly learning analogue. Great fun. I'm doing electronics at college, but only myself and one other person there is actually interested in the subject...
I've just finished my second year college project, and analogue ohm meter. Basically uses Dave's constant current sink, stuck upside down to become a constant current source. I'm also the only person on the course who designed their project. Everyone else is using designs off the internet. What is the world coming to?
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Home lab, as for current state (KI 2002 not shown, but present :)).
I guess this photos can be labeled "Need new & proper table for bench".
Will move another apartment (rent on this one expires soon :)) and get myself to build proper benchplace.
Quite possible to build what you want (teaser pics (http://postimg.org/gallery/7di62u4w/d543a2a5/) of one I'm building, and about to have a second by some time next week).
Here's my one.
I'm 17 and this is my first lab (if you can call it that), in my bedroom.
FWIW, the labs you may envy in this thread, weren't built in a day. ;) Give it time, and you'll get there. And it's great to see you've already started before graduating, so kudos. :) Your interest/passion for the field should put you miles ahead of your classmates, which will help immensely. Particularly when you start looking for internships or your first real job in the field.
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Here is my lab:
(http://i.imgur.com/fKisb8I.jpg)
The "enhanced" Flir E4 is my fathers, who likes TICs, I just borrow it from time to time. In the cup is green tea, and in the bowl is a mango. :D My shelf of ICs and documents is not visible.
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at 15, you have a better start than I did at your age. I was lucky to have a working VTVM and some 10% carbon resistors to work with.
(and that vtvm had to walk to school uphill. both ways!)
;)
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My current measurement setup: DSO9254 + DPO7104. Both are good scopes, but they make a terrible noise, especially the TEK.
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My current measurement setup: DSO9254 + DPO7104. Both are good scopes, but they make a terrible noise, especially the TEK.
Holy crap those are nice scopes
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Jep. 30.000€ and 20.000€ :-) I love my Job.
But seriously: The noise level is horrible. It seems that they use jet engines to cool them.
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barefoot in the snow even :)
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Starter workbench (still sharing space with the mower in a 3x3m garden shed)
Home made bench.
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg (http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg)
Solder extraction fan doubles as a heat extraction fan during the day.
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed2a.jpg (http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed2a.jpg)
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Starter workbench (still sharing space with the mower in a 3x3m garden shed)
Home made bench.
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg (http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg)
Solder extraction fan doubles as a heat extraction fan during the day.
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg (http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg)
those are both the same picture.
i need to find a solder fume extraction system soon. homebrew'd fan & pipe are fine, i just need to get it done.
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Starter workbench (still sharing space with the mower in a 3x3m garden shed)
Home made bench.
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg (http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg)
Solder extraction fan doubles as a heat extraction fan during the day.
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg (http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed1a.jpg)
those are both the same picture.
http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed2a.jpg (http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed2a.jpg) :)
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http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed2a.jpg (http://simon.fearby.com/temp/eev/shed2a.jpg) :)
damn why didn't i try that? i tried 1b, 1c, and gave up. your insecure systems are safe with me, everybody.
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Good job c4757p +10 points..
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And for bonus points find the other stuff using google cache. :P
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A few new additions... :D
(http://i.imgur.com/RqvH8cB.jpg)
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How did you install one of these cat/dog doors? :) I have a cat and I'm sick and tired letting him in and out all the time :)
A few new additions... :D
(http://i.imgur.com/RqvH8cB.jpg)
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How did you install one of these cat/dog doors? :) I have a cat and I'm sick and tired letting him in and out all the time :)
One word: Portal gun. :D
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How did you install one of these cat/dog doors? :) I have a cat and I'm sick and tired letting him in and out all the time :)
One of these: http://www.sureflap.co.uk/products/details/27-dualscan-microchip-cat-flap (http://www.sureflap.co.uk/products/details/27-dualscan-microchip-cat-flap)
One of these: http://www.sureflap.co.uk/products/details/2-cat-flap-mounting-adaptor (http://www.sureflap.co.uk/products/details/2-cat-flap-mounting-adaptor)
Some of this: http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-exterior-frame-sealant-white-310ml/21638 (http://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-exterior-frame-sealant-white-310ml/21638)
And a new double glazed unit to fit the door from a local glazier, which cost me £175 though I was originally quoted £220. Pays to haggle!
Overall cost approx. £300 :( But well worth it I think for our two cats, and the ability to keep one inside while the other goes out. ;D
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But well worth it I think for our two cats, and the ability to keep one inside while the other goes out.
Just curious, how does one of those cat flaps keep one cat from tailgating out behind the other? Cats can be pretty smart.
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But well worth it I think for our two cats, and the ability to keep one inside while the other goes out.
Just curious, how does one of those cat flaps keep one cat from tailgating out behind the other? Cats can be pretty smart.
It's pretty quick to latch shut. But yeah, the other cat has got out a couple of times, sneaky thing.
Still, it works 99% of the time, if you train the cats a little as well.
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But well worth it I think for our two cats, and the ability to keep one inside while the other goes out.
Just curious, how does one of those cat flaps keep one cat from tailgating out behind the other? Cats can be pretty smart.
It's pretty quick to latch shut. But yeah, the other cat has got out a couple of times, sneaky thing.
Still, it works 99% of the time, if you train the cats a little as well.
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I can think of two possible ways to solve that issue, one is video analytics and the other long range rfid readers and a technique we used to use to keep the patients inside the dementia ward.
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My brother had a cat flap door at his house some years ago. The cat at first went slowly through it, then as it got more confident it went through it faster and faster till finally it would go through at full gallop. Then one day the microwave oven conked out so it was lifted off the kitchen bench and placed by the front door to later be heaved outside. Trouble is, it was hard up against and blocking the cat flap. Later on, cat gets home from cat work and attempts to come in through the immovable cat flap at half the speed of light... It was a collision the guys at CERN would be proud of. Every day after that for the next several weeks the cat would paw the flap and test it before going through.
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Sounds soo human. ;D
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My brother had a cat flap door at his house some years ago. The cat at first went slowly through it, then as it got more confident it went through it faster and faster till finally it would go through at full gallop. Then one day the microwave oven conked out so it was lifted off the kitchen bench and placed by the front door to later be heaved outside. Trouble is, it was hard up against and blocking the cat flap. Later on, cat gets home from cat work and attempts to come in through the immovable cat flap at half the speed of light... It was a collision the guys at CERN would be proud of. Every day after that for the next several weeks the cat would paw the flap and test it before going through.
<insert cat-scan joke>
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Well it is quite messy, but these pictures i have for now:
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Now this is a real mess, and I did clean it up a little on Sunday.
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Judging you by equipment you have, you are old-school type of EE :) ;)
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Judging you by equipment you have, you are old-school type of EE :) ;)
as the kids would say, "that's real OG!"
;)
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My bench before and after I started watching Dave's eevblog :)
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Here is my main bench with all sort of things. There are many other things standing arround. Like industrial sensors and industrial PLC's, old educational stuff from Siemens and some little projects. Most of my tools are in drawers. There are two things i want to improve. One thing is the lighting of the bench. Sometimes its horrible to work. The other thing is, i am searching for a good way to digitize my old inverted microscope. It has a great magnification and its nice for looking at semiconductor structures. But its hard to take pictures from the focusing screen.
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Here's a Hobby bench but please try to ignore that Despised DSO there as its just waiting to get blown up when I can afford a "real" one .
Too late. Is that an Owon? Can't really make it out...
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Here's a Hobby bench but please try to ignore that Despised DSO there as its just waiting to get blown up when I can afford a "real" one .
Too late. Is that an Owon? Can't really make it out...
I did type "Try to" but you succumbed , yep its one of them..
The wood dowel on the floor is for a future loop antenna , that's a modified catv splitter with 4 outputs on the wall for vlf/hf behind the shortwave radio's , a old 25amp power supply and a old standard piston and a new 3mm larger piston for the motorbike which has 4 .
The little black box with red sticker on the left on the beam is a TCI (transistor controlled ignition), its a job yet to be done to evaluate it as I have 3 tci spares and 1 misses on 2 cylinder at 1700rpm until 2100rpm , i'll use the Level generator (top large thing on bench) for the trigger input and watch the output .
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Still a work in progress... An older collection of equipment I think should be useful for some time.
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A wonderful lab.
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My current lab.
Polar toneohm 950 multilayer shorts locator
GW Instek GFG-8219A function gen
Rigol DS1052E software updated to 100MHz
Keithley 196 system dmm. Not working perfectly. I will probably get another bench dmm in the near future.
Tenma 72-10505 triple oputput psu. 2x 30V 2A and 5V 3A.
HP 6632B psu 20V 5A in the self build rack
Advance Instruments OS250TV 10MHz
Megger BM222 insulation & continuity tester
Batronix M85 cheap dmm
Batronix M220 even cheaper dmm
Atten 858D
CT-963 soldering station. According to my teacher made at the same factory from the same parts as Hakko. So fake but not cheap Chinese fake.
I also might be getting a Metcal soldering station at some point.
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Oh man, my current "workspace" would make some interesting photography..... >.< I don't think you really want to see though.
You don't wanna se mine, oh the mess!
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You don't wanna see mine
Yeah we do.
oh the mess!
Don't care.
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You don't wanna see mine
Yeah we do.
oh the mess!
Don't care.
+1 :-+
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My current measurement setup: DSO9254 + DPO7104. Both are good scopes, but they make a terrible noise, especially the TEK.
Oh my! :o :rant:
How did you get those two?
Lucky lucky you!
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My current measurement setup: DSO9254 + DPO7104. Both are good scopes, but they make a terrible noise, especially the TEK.
Oh my! :o :rant:
How did you get those two?
Lucky lucky you!
Probably they are at his job...
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No hobbyist will ever have this car-like-expensive scope... http://www.home.agilent.com/en/pd-1632427-pn-DSO9254A/oscilloscope-25-ghz-4-analog-channels (http://www.home.agilent.com/en/pd-1632427-pn-DSO9254A/oscilloscope-25-ghz-4-analog-channels)
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"ever" is a long time. In 25 years, some hobbyist somewhere will luck out or they'll be cheap enough to buy on a hobbyist budget.
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Rich people can't have hobbies?
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"ever" is a long time. In 25 years, some hobbyist somewhere will luck out or they'll be cheap enough to buy on a hobbyist budget.
Assuming that today's 'sophisticated profit-driven corporate management' hasn't deliberately embedded deliberate drop-dead features deep into scopes like this. Their market strategy would be so much simpler if there wasn't _any_ such equipment functioning much after its scheduled depreciation lifetime.
I guess we'll find out if that's the case, in less than a decade.
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Here's my "lab". I will admit it's there's usually a lot more crap on the bench, I cleaned it up just a few days ago...
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Cyr, a very nice collection.
Your comment of the desk being tidy now reminded me of the joke of " a clean desk being an indicator of a dirty mind".
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An impressive collection of powerful equipment. Well, not many hobbyists have a 13GHz spectrum analyzer.
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Your comment of the desk being tidy now reminded me of the joke of " a clean desk being an indicator of a dirty mind".
If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is an empty desk a sign?
Variously attributed to everyone and his dog, including Albert Einstein.
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This is my Lab..... :D
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/i-got-an-ocilloscope-now-what/?action=dlattach;attach=94053;image)
What do you think?
Hunor :D
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What do you think?
Hunor :D
I think it's either a very small lab or you just posted the thumbnail picture.
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What do you think?
Hunor :D
I think it's either a very small lab or you just posted the thumbnail picture.
Fixed!
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Impressive lab mr. Cyr. :-+
My little work corner, I have reused salad boxes for organizing components I desoldered mostly from dumpster dive finds.
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I use plastic 1l lunch boxes, as I have a few dozen spare doing nothing.
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Cyr, a very nice collection.
Your comment of the desk being tidy now reminded me of the joke of " a clean desk being an indicator of a dirty mind".
I thought is was an indicator of a warped mind :-DD
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My little workspace.
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My little workspace.
Wow! :-+
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My little workspace.
Thats what I call "picture in picture"
>:D
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The tinkering room where my son and I hang out. We seem to take more things apart than build things though ...
Anthony
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Thats what I call "picture in picture"
>:D
Yeah, took a photo after being unsatisfied with what i saw on screen ;-)
The tinkering room where my son and I hang out. We seem to take more things apart than build things though ...
Anthony
Dang, what a rack >:D
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That is A very nice gig! :D
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My little workspace.
Thats what I call "picture in picture"
>:D
If you look carefully at the picture in the computer screen, the reason he did not like the first pic was because his pc was on a porn site...
J/k
P
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Thanks to EEVblog and all for rekindling my passion for electronics.
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I like those Philips scopes!
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I like those Philips scopes!
I second that. and there's a second piece of Philips on the shelve.
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I like those Philips scopes!
I second that. and there's a second piece of Philips on the shelve.
There`s a counter(?) on the shelf above the scope, those were made in Sweden (some of them at least). What model is it?
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Thanks to EEVblog and all for rekindling my passion for electronics.
Hey tony, welcome to the forum. Where did you get your shelfing from?
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Thanks to EEVblog and all for rekindling my passion for electronics.
Hi tony t. Of all the benches I've seen on here, yours is the one I like most. i.e. it's the one I could happily pull a chair up to and do some work on.
I guess this is because it has the main items arranged the way I would arrange them myself, also it has a nice uncluttered work area with a big ESD mat.
If I were to make changes to it (to suit me better) I would move the books and component bins somewhere else and leave some spare shelf space. I find that it's nice to always have some spare space on a shelf even if it's just as a place to put something (out of the way) for a few seconds.
But overall this is easily the best setup work bench I've seen so far :)
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The tinkering room where my son and I hang out. We seem to take more things apart than build things though ...
Anthony
as someone who used to work at Sun, I approve! (what a shame Sun is no longer around and evil oracle is all that's left of good old Sun).
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Here is a new panoramic 180 degree view of my lab. Was messing around with the panoramic option on my Galaxy S4. It works really well! ;D
Sorry, I had to reduce the size considerably to make the upload requirements on the blog. It looks quite a bit better in it's high resolution form but is tens of megabytes in size though!
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The Philips Frequency counter is a PM6673 (120Mhz). Picked it up on Ebay for $100+shipping. Waiting for my used OCXO to arrive to make it more stable.
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The Philips Frequency counter is a PM6673 (120Mhz). Picked it up on Ebay for $100+shipping. Waiting for my used OCXO to arrive to make it more stable.
120 M, ok :)
How old is it? It might be stated on the back.
What do you use it for?
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Wiss, the FC is early 1980's vintage! I made a FC unit using Interstil chip in high school (1981). It's slowly dying, the LED segment drivers are starting to fail. Decided to splurge and buy a new Uni 8030 but hated the way if was designed, so I found the PM6673 on Ebay. Attached is my home made unit and another pic of the Philips FC.
I just like playing around and understanding how temperature affects the frequency of quarts crystals. It's my hobby...
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Pics of home made Frequency counter (1981 vintage!). Sorry for posting twice, just getting used to the forum GUI.
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Wiss, the FC is early 1980's vintage! I made a FC unit using Interstil chip in high school (1981). It's slowly dying, the LED segment drivers are starting to fail. Decided to splurge and buy a new Uni 8030 but hated the way if was designed, so I found the PM6673 on Ebay. Attached is my home made unit and another pic of the Philips FC.
I just like playing around and understanding how temperature affects the frequency of quarts crystals. It's my hobby...
:) I should be carefull to ask such questions, I'm already measuring voltage with 3 more digits than I need... don't need timenutting as well...
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Thanks to EEVblog and all for rekindling my passion for electronics.
Hi tony t. Of all the benches I've seen on here, yours is the one I like most. i.e. it's the one I could happily pull a chair up to and do some work on.
I guess this is because it has the main items arranged the way I would arrange them myself, also it has a nice uncluttered work area with a big ESD mat.
If I were to make changes to it (to suit me better) I would move the books and component bins somewhere else and leave some spare shelf space. I find that it's nice to always have some spare space on a shelf even if it's just as a place to put something (out of the way) for a few seconds.
But overall this is easily the best setup work bench I've seen so far :)
Thanks! Great minds think alike. Yes your suggestions are valid. My goal is to use part of the middle shelf as "temporary storage" (within arms reach). The old Heathkit Frequency Generator has to go!
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I decided to properly set up my workbench over the bank holiday.
Before: (http://i.imgur.com/W4nlgQ2.jpg)
After: (http://i.imgur.com/CNtLYUw.jpg)
Album with details: http://imgur.com/a/iaH15 (http://imgur.com/a/iaH15)
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That is some picture you got there. :P
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That is some picture you got there. :P
What lab would'nt be complete without Amazon boxes! ;D
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There's Amazon boxes? I don't even see test gear and tools! >:D
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Here is what I have
(http://www.makarov.ca/download/misc/shack004_1024.jpg)
(http://www.makarov.ca/download/misc/shack007_1024.jpg)
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Here is what I have
(http://www.makarov.ca/download/misc/shack004_1024.jpg)
(http://www.makarov.ca/download/misc/shack007_1024.jpg)
WOW! :-+ :-+
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There's Amazon boxes? I don't even see test gear and tools! >:D
This is A joke, Right? :palm:
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There's Amazon boxes? I don't even see test gear and tools! >:D
This is A joke, Right? :palm:
Obviously a joke considering the very large picture of naked women over the workbench. I suppose if a joke has to be explained, it's not really a joke. |O
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Here is what I have
(http://www.makarov.ca/download/misc/shack004_1024.jpg)
(http://www.makarov.ca/download/misc/shack007_1024.jpg)
:-+ :-+ :-+ Nice.
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Wow, does this 1980's equipment actually work?
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There's Amazon boxes? I don't even see test gear and tools! >:D
This is A joke, Right? :palm:
Obviously a joke considering the very large picture of naked women over the workbench. I suppose if a joke has to be explained, it's not really a joke. |O
Both the picture and the joke were featured in this thread back in November:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg331678/#msg331678 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg331678/#msg331678)
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It's the same picture above the bench, but lots of nice shelving has been added. Looks good.
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It's the same picture above the bench, but lots of nice shelving has been added. Looks good.
Oh, absolutely. Just thought those new to the thread might appreciate some additional context. (And maybe a clearer image of the young ladies).
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Lab Pictures?
This would be my 10lbs of stuff crammed into a 1lb sack.
could be the worlds smallest lab ... a closet 6 feet x 7 feet.. behind the sitting area out of view are two 6 foot shelves stocked with large quantity of IC's, Transistors, Caps, Resistors and support components for most designs. This is only one of about three configurations or arrangements my equipment might be in. Enjoy the active mess.. :)!(http://)
JLM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/124211342@N06/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124211342@N06/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/124211342@N06/14268069896/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124211342@N06/14268069896/)
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Lab Pictures?
This would be my 10lbs of stuff crammed into a 1lb sack.
could be the worlds smallest lab ... a closet 6 feet x 7 feet.. behind the sitting area out of view are two 6 foot shelves stocked with large quantity of IC's, Transistors, Caps, Resistors and support components for most designs. This is only one of about three configurations or arrangements my equipment might be in. Enjoy the active mess.. :)!(http://)
JLM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/124211342@N06/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124211342@N06/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/124211342@N06/14268069896/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124211342@N06/14268069896/)
Wow, super lab.
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Heres my lab..
Situated on the top floor Plant Room of a high-rise office building in an un-disclosed location in Perth CBD 8)
It ain't much, but it's home!
(http://i57.tinypic.com/ixrp86.jpg)
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The important part isn't the lab, its that you are actually doing something in your lab! :-+
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Wow, super lab.
Thank you Juice...
Situated on the top floor Plant Room of a high-rise office building in an un-disclosed location in Perth CBD 8)
It ain't much, but it's home!
N.... That light could have multiple purposes.. :).. reminds me of the Drilling/Interrogation scene in "Marathon Man (Dustin Hoffman)... LOL.. that's an exact copy of that lamp.. ..
as Dave sez..... "Yeaah!"
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After: (http://i.imgur.com/CNtLYUw.jpg)
Nice except for the monitor and oscilloscope sitting way too high. But if you want your radiator to work efficiently and don't cause too big heating bill you should remove the box and Ikea bag on the floor blocking the radiator's "cold air intake". But of course it's summer now, so it's not turned on at the moment, so maybe you'll remove it before the heating season.
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After: (http://i.imgur.com/CNtLYUw.jpg)
Nice except for the monitor and oscilloscope sitting way too high. But if you want your radiator to work efficiently and don't cause too big heating bill you should remove the box and Ikea bag on the floor blocking the radiator's "cold air intake". But of course it's summer now, so it's not turned on at the moment, so maybe you'll remove it before the heating season.
Actually, they are at just the right height. Very nice position to work with.
The radiator is always set low, all year long, because it's always had stuff above it.
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Long time ago a learned electronic design, switched then over to internet and network technology and finally come back to my roots....
Also a reason for this is that currently internet/network and electronics are merging nowadays...
So I'm asking out of curiosity what your electronic lab looks like by means of equipment...
...and what I am currently missing (o;
So far my electronic lab contains:
2 * HP6632B power supplied (2 more to come ;o)
1 * LeCroy 9354AL, 4 channel 500MHz DSO
1 * Philips PM3585 Logic analyzer
1 * HP3456A (1 more to come) multimeter
1 * HP8904A (currently in repair) function generator
1 * Fluke 6060A function generator
1 * Selfmade USB to GPIB adapter, based on Microchip PIC18F2550, total cost around US$ 15.
Anything I'm missing? (o;
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Anything I'm missing? (o;
You miss a soldering iron.
Don't know what all the equipment you mention is as I can't remember all model numbers. Would be easier if you wrote oscilloscope, multimeter etc. next to each item.
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Updated my previous post (o;
I used to have a Weller soldering iron for over 20 years now...and gave it to my son (o;
Switched over to Oki Metcal....
Worst thing is though....in the good old days I learned in apprentice school vacuum tube technology and components where large...
Now the older I get, the worse my eye sight get, the smaller the components are (o;
So my next device would be a magnifying lens with built-in lamp ;-)
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optivisor recommended:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015IS6IY (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015IS6IY)
I won't solder without that thing on. for the last 5 yrs or so, i've been using that and I feel a lot safer when I have to work close and solder or cutoff TH leads or even do light drilling.
you get one set of eyes.
I don't have lights on that visor; I rely on good shop lighting.
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optivisor recommended:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015IS6IY (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015IS6IY)
I won't solder without that thing on. for the last 5 yrs or so, i've been using that and I feel a lot safer when I have to work close and solder or cutoff TH leads or even do light drilling.
you get one set of eyes.
I don't have lights on that visor; I rely on good shop lighting.
I inherited one of those. Maybe I should dig it out and give it a try.
BTW, do you happen to know if they work with glasses?
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BTW, do you happen to know if they work with glasses?
They do!
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you will look like a nerd (or worse) with the glass visor unit on, but its WORTH IT for such peace of mind. over the years, I don't know how many flying resistor cutoff leads just barely missed hitting me. solder flare-ups, whatever. its just great knowing that you get magnification and protection.
I didn't even think about this when I was younger. now, like I said, I refuse to touch a soldering iron unless I'm wearing that visor. I believe in them THAT much and can't recommend them strongly enough to people.
they should be considered mandatory for everyone who buys a soldering iron. I really wish I was told this all those years ago when I first started soldering and building things. everyone knows about 'safety goggles' when you take shop class in high school, but at home doing 'harmless, simple soldering' you don't think of eye protection. these don't fog up and so I don't mind wearing them for extended soldering sessions.
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BTW, do you happen to know if they work with glasses?
They do!
its kind of funny how it works, with some people. I'm at the point where I need bifocals but refuse to get them. instead, I move my glasses up and down the bridge of my nose, to focus ;) I do that, THEN I flip the visor down and move my head back and forth to find the NEW focal point. real PITA but, yes, these do definitely work fine with eyeglasses. I would not be able to use these without my eyeglasses, in fact.
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BTW, do you happen to know if they work with glasses?
They do!
That's great news. Thank you. :)
I'm at the point where I need bifocals but refuse to get them.
Same with me.
Not too sure on bifocals thus far (haven't seen a good demonstration on no-line types), so I'm still currently using separate pairs for reading and distance. PITA to swap for a few seconds, so I just slide them down and look over the top to see something close.
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ot, but I tried the progressive lenses and it drove me nuts. bifocals also drove me nuts with that bizarre windowed view of the world. so, like you, I tune the glasses up and down as I need to. its not great but it gets me by and avoids the whole windowed view issue.
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If a headband magnifier doesn't work for your needs. I recently purchased this desk/floor magnifier. Good light source and lens is excellent.
http://www.ottlite.com/p-390-2-in-1-led-magnifier-floor-and-table-light.aspx (http://www.ottlite.com/p-390-2-in-1-led-magnifier-floor-and-table-light.aspx)
(http://www.ottlite.com/images/Product/medium/390.jpg)
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ot, but I tried the progressive lenses and it drove me nuts. bifocals also drove me nuts with that bizarre windowed view of the world. so, like you, I tune the glasses up and down as I need to. its not great but it gets me by and avoids the whole windowed view issue.
I have been wearing progressive lenses for about 10 years now. It took awhile initially to get adjusted to them, probably about 2 weeks which is what the Optometrist said it would take. I don't have any issues with the "bizarre windowed view of the world" and I don't wear large framed glasses. In fact, mine are about as small as you can practicably get. This year I need to get my eyes checked, so I will be looking at the feasibility of multi-focal contact lenses. SWMBO just got them earlier in the year and she likes them. From what I understand, they are a vast improvement over the bifocal contacts of a few years ago. Might be an option to consider.
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Going desk shopping today, hopefully the surplus store has something good!
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I think building your own is the way to go. I made some out of simple 2X4s and some MDF plywood. They are built like tanks. I actually built two of them, one for my electronics workbench, and another to replace my ham radio desk. I was using a couple of those plastic folding tables before (Ug). This is light years better.
I made both of them very high (39" tall) at standing/bar height. I wanted to be able to work standing or sitting. I also put them on free-spinning wheels so they are easy to move out away from the wall for working on the cables etc. that are behind the benches. I also found some very cheap old classic drafting chairs that are unbelievably sturdy on craigslist and I am using those for seating.
I installed 3 levels of LED strip lighting on each bench. On the electronics bench there are led strips on the underside of the two shelves, and also more led strip lights under the bench to help look inside all the boxes on the storage shelf I put underneath, or to help when you drop something on the floor.
On the radio desk, I put led strips on each of the two levels of the radio shelving unit I built early in the year, and also put leds under that desk as well for helping to look through the storage.
The LEDs are all dimmable separately. I used a couple of cheap dimmers made for RGB leds and I just hooked one level up to R, one to G, and one to B.
I am really happy how they turned out. If anyone wants to copy, I will be more than happy to give you more details/drawings/tips of how I built them. After building a pair of them, the basic design is so easy I could whip another one out in no time. My wife now wants me to build one for the kids to use for their projects and crafts.
(http://i.imgur.com/5sbDxfG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/aMegLct.jpg)
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Nice Job. My workbench is similar but I didn't use the back legs to also hold the shelf brackets. I attached 2X4s along the back. I added a 3rd cross piece between top and bottom cross pieces so I have 3 points of attachment for the 2X4s. I also used MDF-3/4" for the tabletop and 1/2" for the shelves. I will have to change out the 1/2" as it is bowing between the shelf brackets even though I have 4 brackets across the 8' length. Do you have additional lighting besides the LED strips and what are you using. I have a 4 bulb T-8 fixture fitted with daylight deluxe bulbs. I am probably going to add a 2nd 2 bulb fixture for 6 bulbs as I can plug it into the 4 bulb and have 1 power switch for both lights. Lots of light is necessary when you are north of 50 |O
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Lots of light is necessary when you are north of 50 |O
Took me a moment.. I thought you were referring to latitude. (Still holds- lots of dark up here during AK winters.)
I really want to replace my hodge-podge of desks and file cabinets with something custom built. My workspace right now:
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Nice Job. My workbench is similar but I didn't use the back legs to also hold the shelf brackets. I attached 2X4s along the back.
I came across that idea on some ham radio forum and I decided to try it. It was easy enough, but it has one drawback. It barely fits through the door. If I was doing it again, I might build a separate 'hutch' that could be taken off.
I will have to change out the 1/2" as it is bowing between the shelf brackets even though I have 4 brackets across the 8' length.
Here is what you need to do.. look at my shelves. They are only 1/2 MDF and 84" long. See how much equipment it is holding (those old scopes are heavy).
What you need to do to keep it from bowing is to attach a strip of 1x2 to the front of the shelves. I used a nail gun to drive some 2" finishing nails all along the length. Orient the 1x2 strip so that the grain of the wood is strongest against bowing down. That is what I did and it makes a HUGE difference in the strength of the shelves without bowing and you can easily get by with 1/2" MDF. It also provides a little 'lip' to hide the LED strips as well so they don't shine directly in your eyes. I am going to put a strip along the top shelf like I did the lower shelf for that reason alone, even though I don't plan on having as much weight up there.
Do you have additional lighting besides the LED strips and what are you using.
Oh yeah. When working on boards, soldering etc.. the LED is not quite enough light concentrated in one place. I have that fluorescent lamp you can see on the right under the shelf that has a built in magnifier lens I pull out sometimes for detail work on that side of the bench where I usually do hot air/smd, and on the left is a swing arm lamp with a magnifier lens and a bring fluorescent tube light as well on that side when I am soldering. So yeah, even with multiple strips of the brightest LEDs I could find 5430-600, I still use those lamps to provide extra spot lighting when I need it. I think that the bulbs in those task lamps are also a little more 'natural/warmer' light than the LED's.
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Corax - Nice DX 70! , had one of them for many years
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Nixfu, I like the idea of the 1X2 at the edge. If I am going to do that, I will have to cut off the tips of the shelf brackets that I have. They have the upturned lip to keep the shelves from sliding off.
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Nixfu, I like the idea of the 1X2 at the edge. If I am going to do that, I will have to cut off the tips of the shelf brackets that I have. They have the upturned lip to keep the shelves from sliding off.
That makes sense, mine are flat and you have to screw the shelves in from underneath. You can either attach the board to the front of the shelves, or attach it at the bottom. The key is to get a piece of wood so that the wood grain where it is the strongest against the forces that want to bend the shelf and make it sag.
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optivisor recommended:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015IS6IY (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015IS6IY)
I won't solder without that thing on. for the last 5 yrs or so, i've been using that and I feel a lot safer when I have to work close and solder or cutoff TH leads or even do light drilling.
you get one set of eyes.
I don't have lights on that visor; I rely on good shop lighting.
Same here. Using it for years and love them. What lens number are you suing? Mine is #7. Never tried different magnifications.
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optivisor recommended:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015IS6IY (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015IS6IY)
I won't solder without that thing on. for the last 5 yrs or so, i've been using that and I feel a lot safer when I have to work close and solder or cutoff TH leads or even do light drilling.
you get one set of eyes.
I don't have lights on that visor; I rely on good shop lighting.
Same here. Using it for years and love them. What lens number are you suing? Mine is #7. Never tried different magnifications.
I wouldn't sue a lens if I were you
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maybe it would be a good thing to sue a lens.
the US 'justices' are too blind and can't see straight. bringing a lens to court might actually help.
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Lately I've set up a small bench dedicated to soldering and microscopy. Nothing special, though building the shelving above it, and a major building rewiring project that got started off with some extra power outlets for this bench took a while.
What I thought may be worth mentioning is this idea for a working surface in a soldering area.
The little table in the pics is actually quite old - it was made by my grandfather when I was a small child. It's been kicking around, and turned out to be just the right size for this use. But it's an heirloom, and I don't want to mess up the surface. So what to cover it with?
First I bought a sheet of cheap MDF, cut it to size and estapolled it. That would do to take the burns and stains that go with hot irons, fluxes, hot air guns, etc. It's not pretty, and I'm sure its anti-static properties leave a lot to be desired, but I'm not fussy.
Then a few days ago I was at Bunnings (major hardware store chain in Australia), and came across a pallet load of huge ceramic floor tiles. They are 60 x 60 cm (almost 2 feet square), 9mm thick, hard vitrous material with a mirror finish on top. And a pleasant enough ivory colour. I've never seen tiles so big before.
The amazing thing is they are $16.50 for a pack of 3.
I don't know how that price works. Of course they are from China, but they are really heavy. Hard to imagine even shipping them here for that much. Still, I don't care. About $5 for a super tough, glass-smooth heat-proof work surface sounds good to me, so I bought a pack. One of them is on the bench top in the photos.
Perhaps this may turn out to be a dumb idea. But didn't cost much. We'll see how it goes.
The tile surface is definitely just the bulk tile material, polished to a mirror finish. No glaze. It's impermeable too, so suction cap hold-downs will work on it. Something that's been a nuisance with all my other wood benchtops, which are not airtight so small suction vices and such just fall off them immediately. Not with this.
Obviously a ceramic tile wouldn't be good for a surface you might want to hammer on. But I think a soldering space is the least likely place to need hammering, in my whole workshop.
How prone it will be to scratching, remains to be seen. It appears to be a very hard ceramic, not at all like earthenware tiles.
Anyway, if it breaks or gets horribly scratched up, I have two more!
There's some kind of oily film on the tiles, that ignored cleaners like spray & wipe. It took Ajax and a scouring pad to get it off. Perhaps some kind of silicone oil, from the polishing process?
I still can't get over how perfect the surface on these tiles is. No visible gaps with a straightedge, and reflections show no perceptible distortion. How the hell did they make them for so little? Maybe it was a going out of business disposals deal or something.
It will be interesting to see how it takes local heating from a hot air gun or gas torch. Usually I do that kind of work on a small sheet of fibro. Perhaps it might still be a good idea.
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It is the shelf on the right, cloaked in shadow, that I find most interesting...
I love the little space you've set up for working, there. Well lit, monitor up and out of the way for reference. Nicely done.
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It is the shelf on the right, cloaked in shadow, that I find most interesting...
Heh. What, the Tek 7104 with a 7D01 parked in it? Is that the most ridiculous combination ever?
That's a storage shelving space. Nothing to see there.... :)
I love the little space you've set up for working, there. Well lit, monitor up and out of the way for reference. Nicely done.
Thanks. It's still in development. So is the whole room, but coming along. Not quite ready to show off.
It's nice how easy it is to hang LCD screens on a wall. See pics.
As for lighting - actually that's still to be determined for that bench. There are both big fluros and halogen spots in the ceiling, but I'm looking for something like a very bright LED point worklight I can mount on the underside of that shelf. That won't shine in my eyes, or reflect off the screen.
The PC is just behind the wall there, in the storage space. Another use will be for image capture from the microscopes, which are sitting up on the shelf there. In plastic bags, since my whole workspace suffers chronic dust. I keep forgetting to close the interconnecting door to the very very dusty adjoining metal/wood workshop.
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As for lighting - actually that's still to be determined for that bench. There are both big fluros and halogen spots in the ceiling, but I'm looking for something like a very bright LED point worklight I can mount on the underside of that shelf. That won't shine in my eyes, or reflect off the screen.
I bought some of these, which are different from LED strips I've bought in the past, and I expect them to work very well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/360888111369 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/360888111369)
I had 10m of these stuck to the bottom of a wooden shelf, and it shone down on my workspace. It came with self-adhesive tape on the back so it can pretty much go anywhere. I have rearranged things, the wooden shelf I was using is now unused, so bought some of the above, which is twice as dense as what I used previously. I expect good performance out of it.
Might be something to look at, if shipping isn't too bad. They can be cut to length (± 2cm or so) without wasting individual LEDs.
I would stick it to metal instead of wood, as I did. They're encased in silicone for waterproofing reasons, and as thus they can find it difficult to dissipate heat to the air; a metal connection on their backside will give them a good place to put heat. I've seen people use this stuff on aluminum angle stock (http://www.grainger.com/product/Angle-Stock-WP155471/) so they can heat-sink the LEDs and shield their eyes from directly viewing the LEDs. They are crazy bright.
Of course, any noise in the supply to these will use the strips as an antenna, so if common mode noise is something you want to get rid of, regulate voltage to these strips linearly. Otherwise, I suggest an ATX power supply.
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I bought some of these, which are different from LED strips I've bought in the past, and I expect them to work very well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/360888111369 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/360888111369)
Nice. I had some kind of commercial fitting in mind, but given the price of these LED strips and the metal channel idea, this sounds like a better idea.
I found a cheaper source of the same things, with free shipping Hong Kong to Australia: ebay 141300252362.
Had no idea LED strips were getting so cheap. AUD 6.09 for 5m of 3528, AUD 9.74 for 5m of the brighter 5050.
I bought 3 rolls, 1 warm 3528, plus warm and cool of 5050. The not-waterproof variety, since it will be indoors and facing down. Suitable rectangular aluminium U channel will be easy, but will need experimenting once I have the LEDs.
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I bought some of these, which are different from LED strips I've bought in the past, and I expect them to work very well. http://www.ebay.com/itm/360888111369 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/360888111369)
Nice. I had some kind of commercial fitting in mind, but given the price of these LED strips and the metal channel idea, this sounds like a better idea.
I found a cheaper source of the same things, with free shipping Hong Kong to Australia: ebay 141300252362.
Had no idea LED strips were getting so cheap. AUD 6.09 for 5m of 3528, AUD 9.74 for 5m of the brighter 5050.
I bought 3 rolls, 1 warm 3528, plus warm and cool of 5050. The not-waterproof variety, since it will be indoors and facing down. Suitable rectangular aluminium U channel will be easy, but will need experimenting once I have the LEDs.
I used those same strips for under-bench lighting. They work pretty well, but the color is a little blue for my tastes. Combined with the even white light from my overhead Philips bulbs, though, it's not a problem.
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I used those same strips for under-bench lighting. They work pretty well, but the color is a little blue for my tastes. Combined with the even white light from my overhead Philips bulbs, though, it's not a problem.
Looking at the seller's pictures, I thought the 'cool' ones might be too blue. Also the warm ones look maybe too orange. Though, photos can't be relied on to accurately represent perception.
That's why I got both the warm and cool types. Thinking why not use both, with an ability to vary the current ratio between them to get an adjustable colour temperature? Since I want to be able to make the lighting on that bench *really* bright, two (or more) strips was an option anyway.
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I did not use the U channel, but the L with a small lip, sold as a window retaining clip. The small 10mm lip is good as a light shade, and is not too obtrusive. The wider section is about 15mm and is perfect to stick the led strip to for heatsinking.
They do suffer from lumen depreciation with time, as the cheap strip I am using has degraded a little after a few years.
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Anyone familiar with this type of recessed LED (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-Recessed-Ceiling-Down-Bulb-3W-Led-Spot-White-Warm-White-Light-Lamp-/221237489995?pt=US_Light_Bulbs&var=&hash=item3382c8314b) for example?
It's housing is aluminum and it can rotate/swivel, so seems an interesting alternative for mounting under shelves (and inexpensive).
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I did not use the U channel, but the L with a small lip, sold as a window retaining clip. The small 10mm lip is good as a light shade, and is not too obtrusive. The wider section is about 15mm and is perfect to stick the led strip to for heatsinking.
But, you maybe didn't have a display screen in the back, that you don't want LED reflections from. That's why a U not an L. I might end up machining off part of the rear upright of the U, to adjust the light fan.
Or, perhaps if I can find an extrusion with side slots, may be able to slide in some kind of diffuser film. Depends whether there's any visible irregularities in the illumination on the desk below. I find that annoying.
They do suffer from lumen depreciation with time, as the cheap strip I am using has degraded a little after a few years.
Hmm. A good point, which convinces me to *definitely* make the upper end of the adjustable light intensity way higher than I really need.
I'm suddenly converted to adjustable room lighting, as opposed to just a bunch of big bright fluorescent fittings, since as part of the upgrade I installed three 12V ceiling rails with halogen spotlights, and three dimmers at the switch plate. Result: excellent man-cave lighting effects!
Not that it's possible to do any actual work in that light.
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I love watching this thread - so figured it was time I posted a photo too.
Space has to serve a few purposes - but does the job!
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Good day, sirs.
all of your workspaces are very nice and am very jealous of all of you so therefore i hate all of you.
I SAID GOOD DAY!
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You haven't seen my office. Makes Dave's lab look positively palatial and uncluttered. I would take a photo, but the camera in in there somewhere.
As to those 3W lights from nanofrog, those are quite well cooled, and with a separate power supply they likely will run cool and last well. 3W is about the equivalent of a 10W halogen lamp ( do not believe the hype of the sellers) so you likely will need 2 times as many as you think to get a reasonable light level. Buy spare ones as well, they will fail with time.
I got some cheap 6W ones from Frankie ( thanks as well for the nice service and sourcing) and only used them for the tiny little controllers inside ( which seem to be the same from a 3W to a 10W led module) and the LED module, which was attached to a much bigger heat spreader, made from old Intel coolers. Without a fan they run at around 40C, while the original casings ran at 90C surface temperature.
@ TerraHertz I use the led strip right above the keyboard, right above the LCD monitor, and I do get a slight reflection off the shiny Samsung bezel, but the monitor is the right height so that I have to duck down to actually notice it. I like the monitor below eye height so it is comfortable to use. I mounted it to a backing board that carries it at a comfortable height to use.
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Finally got my new desk/lab space done. Not a whole lot of equipment, but that comes later :D
I added an 8ft table for a total of 13.5ft of desk space, as well as the shelves and filing cabinet in the back. I'm really happy with the added storage, I was running out of space, now I have extra for holding projects as well as component storage in the future. Lighting is interesting, I've got 4 lamps now plus the room lights :D
Edit: Have to go, but I'll try and get pictures uploaded the right orientation soon! Fixed a day and a pretty funny post later.
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Anyone familiar with this type of recessed LED (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-Recessed-Ceiling-Down-Bulb-3W-Led-Spot-White-Warm-White-Light-Lamp-/221237489995?pt=US_Light_Bulbs&var=&hash=item3382c8314b) for example?
It's housing is aluminum and it can rotate/swivel, so seems an interesting alternative for mounting under shelves (and inexpensive).
I had really bad experience with cheap leds bulbs from Chinese supplies off ebay. don't have any experience with these particular ones though. I've replaced some of my ceiling halogens GU10 bulbs with leds I bought off ebay. I had a few different bulbs from different suppliers to see which ones would be a good replacement for these halogens I had. In my basement at the time I had 24 bulbs mounted in a ceiling 35w each - that's quite a power hog :) Naturally leds are perfect replacement. Anyways after the test for a month most of the bulbs just died due to overheat; others were with a slight green tint to them compare to halogens with I found really disturbing to my eyes. Tossed all to trash and got GU10s from ikea - no issues at all after almost two ears of constant use.
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Finally got my new desk/lab space done.
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Finally got my new desk/lab space done. Not a whole lot of equipment, but that comes later :D
Picture, edit, rotate right, save and done
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Finally got my new desk/lab space done. Not a whole lot of equipment, but that comes later :D
Picture, edit, rotate right, save and done
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Been a long week, and I totally forgot. Lol. Will get them up now :D
Edit: I assume because I'm left handed I rotate left? Am I doing this right?
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Looks good, but you have set your country flag wrong - you are obviously in Australia ;)
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Looks fine to me
I've included a proper map below
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But Australia should be pink (http://www.rmg.co.uk/explore/sea-and-ships/facts/faqs/why-is-the-british-empire-coloured-pink-on-maps). In fact huge chunks of that map aren't pink. That's not right.
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Finally got my new desk/lab space done. Not a whole lot of equipment, but that comes later :D
Picture, edit, rotate right, save and done
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Been a long week, and I totally forgot. Lol. Will get them up now :D
Edit: I assume because I'm left handed I rotate left? Am I doing this right?
This is what we would see in the US if you were in AustrAAAAAAlia. ;D
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Been a long week, and I totally forgot. Lol. Will get them up now :D
Edit: I assume because I'm left handed I rotate left? Am I doing this right?
It's all dependent on the Coriolis Effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriolis_effect).
Are you sure you're in the US and not somewhere in the Southern Hemisphere?
If unsure observe which way the water swirls when flushing the toilet. ;)
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Toilet swirling direction depends far more on the jets that put water into the bowl than the hemisphere in which the toilet/loo resides.
In the US I've seen them drain both ways, and when I lived in Australia I saw them go both ways.
This is one of those things that everyone "knows" to be true, but in fact, is not.
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You do realize I was joking, right?
(see Wikipedia article I linked for details of toilet swirling..)
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You do realize I was joking, right?
(see Wikipedia article I linked for details of toilet swirling..)
Nope. My joke detector is broked.
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@GreyWolfe the real bush guys say "Horse-traaaaaliaaa" HiHi
@bwat I thought I was the only guy old enough around here to remember those maps!
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Here are some pics of my workbench . Just cleaned it up and put all the multimeters and testers in the cupboard . It was a horrible mess before I did it :scared:
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Here are some additional pics of my workbench
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Here are some pics of my workbench . Just cleaned it up and put all the multimeters and testers in the cupboard . It was a horrible mess before I did it :scared:
how you hang those test leads on the first picture? :-\
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I went and bought a hook sold as a garage hook. Mostly used to hold rakes and brooms in the garage, but has 1 or 2 hooks on a common mount that is nice and large. $2 each at the DIY store.
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how you hang those test leads on the first picture? :-\
He he he... He probably didn't waste over a week making test lead hooks, like this... painful story here:
http://everist.org/NobLog/20140717_poorly_laid_plans.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20140717_poorly_laid_plans.htm)
Well, they work.
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I've got these (they come in a few different sizes):
http://www.cableorganizer.com/cord-clips/ (http://www.cableorganizer.com/cord-clips/)
Work really well.
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I've got these (they come in a few different sizes):
http://www.cableorganizer.com/cord-clips/ (http://www.cableorganizer.com/cord-clips/)
Work really well.
Do they come in 34-24-34? ;D
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He he he... He probably didn't waste over a week making test lead hooks, like this... painful story here:
http://everist.org/NobLog/20140717_poorly_laid_plans.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20140717_poorly_laid_plans.htm)
Well, they work.
That is insane... :wtf: :palm:
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I've got these (they come in a few different sizes):
http://www.cableorganizer.com/cord-clips/ (http://www.cableorganizer.com/cord-clips/)
Work really well.
Do they come in 34-24-34? ;D
I couldn't figure out what that comment was all about, since all I saw when I clicked on the link was a blank page.
(Pun unintentional until previewed, BTW)
Turns out their website was perpetrated by one of those 'designers' who believe people who disable Javascript on unfamiliar websites don't deserve so much as an error message :rant:
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Here are some additional pics of my workbench
That PHYWE multimeter must have come from some school or university. The PHYWE company produces many school physics equipment.
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Yes it was school equipment . The display is very huge and beautiful but the multimeter is crap . It is not a true RMS meter and the 10 A range is not fused . Maybe it was designed by a father of a pupil who didn t like the teacher of physics at school >:D . Well it s a relabled multimeter , the boards are from IMPO Electronic A/S Denmark , also a maker of school demonstration multimeter and other stuff like that .
Ok here is a pic how I hook my testing leads . Well the hook is not the best and a little too small but it works ;D
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Just got some new benches in my bachelor pad. This was before:
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And some after awesomeness 8)
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This is my lab/workshop:
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Part 2:
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After seeing all these repair setups I feel somewhat inadequate. Most of my stuff is ancient. Some seriously nice setups here!!
Bill
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After seeing all these repair setups I feel somewhat inadequate. Most of my stuff is ancient. Some seriously nice setups here!!
Some of us like ancient gear best. Post pics!
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This is my lab/workshop:
Your vacuum cleaner is a Miele Match Winner 300 - 2000 W :)
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After seeing all these repair setups I feel somewhat inadequate. Most of my stuff is ancient. Some seriously nice setups here!!
Some of us like ancient gear best. Post pics!
I second that! :-+
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After seeing all these repair setups I feel somewhat inadequate. Most of my stuff is ancient. Some seriously nice setups here!!
Some of us like ancient gear best. Post pics!
I second that! :-+
Ok, glad to see some like vintage stuff here... LOL
Is a bit messy but have been busy with projects again. At least it keeps me out of trouble....
(http://i59.tinypic.com/inwnyt.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2z4zrk1.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/ra7oz7.jpg)
After seeing all these repair benches I think I may have found a home of like minded folks to share with.
Bill
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Ok, glad to see some like vintage stuff here... LOL
Is a bit messy but have been busy with projects again. At least it keeps me out of trouble....
After seeing all these repair benches I think I may have found a home of like minded folks to share with.
Bill
Are you kidding? It's... beautiful!
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geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee KB8CWB! That's an amazing lab you have there! Congrats! And thanks for sharing! :-+
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That's how hardcore hamradio bench look like :clap:
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After seeing all these repair setups I feel somewhat inadequate. Most of my stuff is ancient. Some seriously nice setups here!!
Some of us like ancient gear best. Post pics!
I second that! :-+
Ok, glad to see some like vintage stuff here... LOL
Is a bit messy but have been busy with projects again. At least it keeps me out of trouble....
(http://i59.tinypic.com/inwnyt.jpg)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2z4zrk1.jpg)
(http://i60.tinypic.com/ra7oz7.jpg)
After seeing all these repair benches I think I may have found a home of like minded folks to share with.
Bill
Nice shack !
73!
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Daniel.
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Ok, glad to see some like vintage stuff here... LOL
Is a bit messy but have been busy with projects again. At least it keeps me out of trouble....
Niiiice! I'm not a ham and don't recognize any of the radio gear. But your 'old' test gear is my idea of beautiful.
What's the huge gray Navy-style bit of gear in lower right in the first pic?
Ha ha. You have a funny idea of 'messy'.
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Ok, glad to see some like vintage stuff here... LOL
Is a bit messy but have been busy with projects again. At least it keeps me out of trouble....
Awesome
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Ha ha. You have a funny idea of 'messy'.
Indeed! I wish I was able to maintain that level of messiness. ;D
Nicely done setup! :-+
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I love the fact that this thread has been running for me to be able to post my previous workshop on page 13, buy a house, build a workshop from scratch and now be able to post some more pics. Anyway... I ended up covering about half my back garden with a garage/shed to keep my tools in, I've split it up into a couple of sections, one for mechanical and one for electronic engineering.
The electronics side is made from two custom steel benches, plywood tops with a roll of ESD mat on top. The shelves are divided into 1m bays which can be moved up and down quickly and reconfigured. I've got storage underneath the benches for anything bulky, the workshop PC etc. All the workshop test leads are hanging from a cable hanger which I routed out of a bit of ply and the latest addition is the rotating storage cabinet for all the bits and pieces
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And the mechanical side, I installed a folding door to close off the electronics area when things got dusty.
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Use a big fan (and a HEPA filter maybe) to get overpressure in the electronics compartment, will help keeping dust out of it. Cleanroom style. Even giving friendly advice while being jealous :)
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I love the fact that this thread has been running for me to be able to post my previous workshop on page 13, buy a house, build a workshop from scratch and now be able to post some more pics.
Always a work in progress... ;D
Nice setup BTW (envious of your mechanical side). :-+
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+1 :-+
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And the mechanical side, I installed a folding door to close off the electronics area when things got dusty.
You’ve spent a lot of money out there.
I’m jealous.
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Always enjoy seeing the variety of workspaces that people put together to suit there various needs. Here are a few photos of my over-stuffed general-purpose workspace in the basement of my home.
(the lighting isn't as poor as these photos would suggest)
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Very nice :-+
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DaveW - Is that a Solartron 7065/55?
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Use a big fan (and a HEPA filter maybe) to get overpressure in the electronics compartment, will help keeping dust out of it. Cleanroom style. Even giving friendly advice while being jealous :)
That's a fantastic idea-shall have to take that idea. Wonder how to work out how big a fan is needed...
You’ve spent a lot of money out there.
I’m jealous.
I try not to think about it!
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DaveW - Is that a Solartron 7065/55?
Yeah, a 7065. Lovely DMM to use a lovely construction inside. Picked it up at an electronics car boot sale for £25 marked as faulty and was hoping to do a repair video, but all the measurements agree perfectly with my HP 6.5 digit and it works fine. Not sure whether to be pleased or disappointed!
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So, been meaning to get this done for quite a while, but :effort:. Also decided to clean before posting pictures of it...
Click for larger images.
(http://i.imgur.com/fFd3bbo.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/0EQWhEl.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/D5zyRVl.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/jALaLPN.jpg)
Obligatory "everything turned on" picture:
(http://i.imgur.com/kyrzu8x.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/odOuN1N.jpg)
Smaller stuff that lives in a drawer:
(http://i.imgur.com/WBbUFMC.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/1k1r5tc.jpg)
Parts storage is in the hallway leading into this room - three full-size bookshelves full of boxes of varying size and contents.
Plus random crap pretty much everywhere. One huge advantage of SMD parts is that they don't generally hurt when you step on them!
Edit: I should point out that the pictures are missing my shitty cheap Manson PSU, which is sitting partially disassembled in a box waiting for replacement potentiometers - old ones were completely shot.
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Very nice, onvr. :-+
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DaveW: you can see my teardown hopefully this week, with troubleshooting following. I will need to order a 10v reference first.
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Very nice arrangement Sebatian and ovnr :clap:. Seems like you guys really put a lot of thoughts into what goes where... let us see how the place looks like in a month time :-DD
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I was thinking the same thing. I will eventually post my bench, started off nice later started working and what a mess. :-DD
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My home bench and lab look like.... Turning around and looking.... A locomotive crashed through a surplus electronics store...
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I think Toddfun has a nice set up, beside being in a garage. I prefer a real room.
I use a L shaped set of desks. Dave's is one long desk - that would drive me crazy. Scooting long a 20 foot long bench, and long test leads.
L or U shaped is much better IMHO.
Here is Todd's - he has a good youtube channel as well - worth subscribing to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOmgHFuJy6g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOmgHFuJy6g)
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This is my modest setup, which is enough for my projects which are mostly analogue synthesizer builds.
although a digi-scope would be nice...
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Nice LektroiD.
You have a Bel Merit MT-100! That's the first one I've seen other than the one I picked up for $9.99 at a local Thrift store.
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My updated lab plus a close-up.
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My updated lab plus a close-up.
Can you tell us what you have there on the bench?
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I think I see a new Keithley power supply on the left.
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My updated lab plus a close-up.
Can you tell us what you have there on the bench?
Going from left to right and top to bottom:
Keithley 2280S-32-6 Precision Measurement Power Supply (There is actually a deal going on now - 10% off Testequity (http://www.testequity.com/static/305/?src=tek_slider_10pct))
Fluke 87V Multimeter in its case
Agilent E3630A Power Supply
Agilent E3648A Power Supply
Agilent E3632A Power Supply
Stanford Research Systems FS730/1 10 MHz Clock Distribution Amplifier
Agilent 53230A 350MHz Frequency Counter with 15GHz RF option
Agilent 34461A 6.5 Digit Multimeter
Agilent 34401A 6.5 Digit Multimeter
Rigol DG5071 Arbitrary Waveform/Function Generator
Rigol DS1062CA 60MHz 2GSa/s oscilloscope
I'm thinking about doing a tear down of the new Keithley power supply but I would rather Dave do it so I can enjoy watching him critique it. That and I'm a baby when it comes to taking apart new equipment. The Agilent power supplies I bought off of Ebay and repaired but lots of other people have done tear downs of those so I couldn't be bothered.
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Love all the test gear. But can't help to fell like you need a better desk/shelves.
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Yeah, I need to get an actual bench but I'll most likely be moving in about 1.5-2 years and don't want the hassle of taking along stuff that won't fit in my car. All the stuff in my lab now can fit into my car and be transported to a different location in a single trip. I'll get some good benches after moving.
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Hello,
here are some photos of my current lab setup.
The test equipment is mounted into a fully movable rack, which is quite heavy.
Power and data cables as well as cooling water for the electronic load comes from the top side.
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franzvollmaier
All I can say is "You don't mess around!"
The products you manufacture/test obviously can fund the equipment it seems. Well done and a truly impressive setup.
I do like your AM5030S current probe amplifiers.
Dick
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It's a really nice setup, but never think about the investment... :phew:
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I hate all of you. >:D
Jealousy Envy is an ugly feeling.
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Hello,
here are some photos of my current lab setup.
The test equipment is mounted into a fully movable rack, which is quite heavy.
Power and data cables as well as cooling water for the electronic load comes from the top side.
Man you here ? or on mars.
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Loving that screen in a linear rail?
Does it have a stepper in as well or just sitff to move?
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No, it works with an air cylinder from Festo
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I hate all of you. >:D Jealousy is an ugly feeling.
Me too >:D
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This is from tidying up :)
out of the bottom of the pic, boxes of components that need to be binned up top.
left side is all pinball and amiga parts and such, right side is the pc and test equipment connected to a nice multiswitch power rack connected to a furman line conditioner
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It's been over a month since I got a business license for my calibration lab. I took a picture of one side of my lab to upgrade eBay store picture.
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:drool
What model digibridge is that?
nice JRL null meter.
Actually everything is nice.
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:drool
What model digibridge is that?
nice JRL null meter.
Actually everything is nice.
Thanks.
That is 1958. I use 1689 or SRS 720 for calibration work, though.
Regards,
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Here is an image taken from a very old book that shows the lab/shack of a keen radio and electronics enthusiast from pre 1920.
Almost 100 years ago!
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Mine after i gave it a bit of a clean up. For it's normal state imagine something half way between this and Jim William's lab. The big MDF thing is a baffle for measuring loudspeakers, if you were wondering.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2945/15310355088_134166ee41_o.png)
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My new setup in a living room 8)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/i3tjr8.jpg)
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Been doing some upgrades to the lab... I need a bigger space! ;D
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Been doing some upgrades to the lab... I need a bigger space! ;D
Amazing! Get a BGA rework station there and you'll need nothing else! :)
Congratulations for the gear and organization
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Very nice lab there Terabyte2007 :clap:
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Very nice lab there Terabyte2007 :clap:
Thank you! Lot's of time and expense but I do spend a considerable amount of time in my lab so it all works out...
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Wow.. very impressive labs you guys have :)
My "lab" is a part of my workshop.. not surgically clean ;)
In these pics i didn't have the oscilloscope yet.. but its there now.. just need to learn to need it. ;)
(http://www.workshopprojects.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/teljemosbod2.jpg)
My workshop
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp214/Teljemo/stuff/IMG_20141016_195838_zps1aede5e7.jpg)
The electrical corner ;)
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp214/Teljemo/stuff/IMG_20141016_195852_zps07fae11f.jpg)
mechanical corner
(http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp214/Teljemo/stuff/IMG_20141018_165100_zpsekf4lbd9.jpg)
shit bad boy is in the electrical corner now days ;)
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Been doing some upgrades to the lab... I need a bigger space! ;D
Wow, that's a lot of equipment! What are the thing on top of the second stack from the right in the first photo, and everything in the left two stacks in the third photo?
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Been doing some upgrades to the lab... I need a bigger space! ;D
Wow, that's a lot of equipment! What are the thing on top of the second stack from the right in the first photo, and everything in the left two stacks in the third photo?
Thanks, I spend a lot of time in my lab. I attached a couple close shots of your question.
The Global Specialties RC10 is an R-C Series/Parallel proto box. Basically allows you to setup quickly any combination of an RC circuit within the supplied ranges. Works a treat!
Third pic equipment list as follows:
1) UnRegulated Elenco AC/DC power supply. Not really used much since it's unregulated. Occasionally I use it for transformer testing and etc.
2) Ikegami 1.5KVDC precision power supply.
3) Kepco 0-150VDC Power Supply. Very stable and precise supply.
4) BK Precision 1655A AC Supply with Leakage test probe. (Precision Variac)
5) GW Instek HiPot tester. 200VA
Hope this helps!
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Greetings
Here are some pics of my home workshop. As you can probably tell I've been doing this a while, and working from home helps justify it. Until three months ago I had a 6'x6' space, but having moved house I now have my own man cave.
I am an embedded RF mixed signal guy, so it's hardware and software. Those two 4K monitors are awesome for development!
On the first picture, the stack is
HP calibration kit for vector network analyser (below)
Instek 3MHz function generator
Marconi 6950 RF Power Meter with 6910 sensor calibrated to 18GHz
Tait T801 Rubidium frequency reference, heavily modified so multiple outputs are on the front :-)
HP 8656B RF signal generator 0.1-990MHz
HP 8565A RF spectrum analyser 10MHz-22GHz
Anritsu MT8802A communications test set 300kHz-3GHz
HP 8753A 300kHz-3GHz vector network analyser (with a T/R test set)
Reflow toaster oven
AR8600 communications receiver
Several assorted power supplies
Saike 898D hot air solder station
Rigol MSO1074Z-S 70MHz 1GSa/s 4+16ch scope
Agilent 54831D 600MHz 4GSa/s 4+16ch scope
Stereo Microscope (under the translucent cover)
Two Weller soldering irons plus a Weller tweezer with control boxes
Under the desk:
Marconi 2955A comms test set to 1GHz
Tektronix TDS 2024B scope 200MHz 2GSa/s 4ch
Anritsu Site Master S331A 5MHz-3.3GHz one port portable VNA
TTi PSA2701T handheld spectrum analyser to 2.7GHz
Several multimeters and component testers
RFD 2305 calibrated RF noise source to 3.4GHz
NGA noise gain analyser to 1.8GHz for noise figure measurement
Intronix Logicport LA1034 USB logic analyser
Bitscope BS50 USB scope and logic Analyser
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/photobucket391/1506d3f9e02322ac8cd73517f6394e8e_zpsa6e79f56.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/photobucket391/924ccb4fdd0866459592438291cdc9a1_zps9bc8ff19.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/photobucket391/f8d77ad42e40a009a23dd49169f74315_zpse612a23c.jpg)
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Greetings
Here are some pics of my home workshop. As you can probably tell I've been doing this a while, and working from home helps justify it. Until three months ago I had a 6'x6' space, but having moved house I now have my own man cave.
I am an embedded RF mixed signal guy, so it's hardware and software. Those two 4K monitors are awesome for development!
On the first picture, the stack is
HP calibration kit for vector network analyser (below)
Instek 3MHz function generator
Marconi 6950 RF Power Meter with 6910 sensor calibrated to 18GHz
Tait T801 Rubidium frequency reference, heavily modified so multiple outputs are on the front :-)
HP 8656B RF signal generator 0.1-990MHz
HP 8565A RF spectrum analyser 10MHz-22GHz
Anritsu MT8802A communications test set 300kHz-3GHz
HP 8753A 300kHz-3GHz vector network analyser (with a T/R test set)
Reflow toaster oven
AR8600 communications receiver
Several assorted power supplies
Saike 898D hot air solder station
Rigol MSO1074Z-S 70MHz 1GSa/s 4+16ch scope
Agilent 54831D 600MHz 4GSa/s 4+16ch scope
Stereo Microscope (under the translucent cover)
Two Weller soldering irons plus a Weller tweezer with control boxes
Under the desk:
Marconi 2955A comms test set to 1GHz
Tektronix TDS 2024B scope 200MHz 2GSa/s 4ch
Anritsu Site Master S331A 5MHz-3.3GHz one port portable VNA
TTi PSA2701T handheld spectrum analyser to 2.7GHz
Several multimeters and component testers
RFD 2305 calibrated RF noise source to 3.4GHz
NGA noise gain analyser to 1.8GHz for noise figure measurement
Very nice indeed!
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Nice QST mag!
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LOL! Must get around to reading it sometime!
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An advantage of having old good HP gear is that it is so big and heavy that it is hard to steal
:D
Good luck trying to take my HP 8565a 60-pound (30kg) spectrum analyzer. Do not forget to bring a wheelbarrow.
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An advantage of having old good HP gear is that it is so big and heavy that it is hard to steal
:D
Good luck trying to take my HP 8565a 60-pound (30kg) spectrum analyzer. Do not forget to bring a wheelbarrow.
You're right. I brought back the 8753a from the US to the UK about 12 years ago as airline hold baggage. I put it into a Peli case and had to take the YIG out to get it under the 32kg limit the airline had.
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Just finished building a 2 tier desk, from 1.5" square tubing
No need to worry about death from above, all rubber feet.
Equimpent on top rack (soon will be more) is perpendicular at eye level which is nice for reading LCD screens without getting up.
(http://i.imgur.com/FgJuveX.jpg)
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Marshall, Very neat clean, excellent idea.
I have a similar design too. So far has worked for me the best of all design. :-+
I have altered mine a bit, but it is a mess and incomplete, hope to show it here soon. Bit more time didn't want to appear to copyright your design hence why mentioning it now.
Malcolm
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i finally got around to making a fresh start on my mancave/lab. Including putting up that awesome electromagnetic chart that dave found ages ago.
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i finally got around to making a fresh start on my mancave/lab. Including putting up that awesome electromagnetic chart that dave found ages ago.
If I were you, I'd move that poster, and make your lab more into a L-shaped, with shelves on the front wall. Half of your equipment is sideways! Doesn't that drive you nuts?
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After seeing all these repair setups I feel somewhat inadequate. Most of my stuff is ancient. Some seriously nice setups here!!
Bill
But you my friend have Drake and Collins porn! :-+
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Finally got some static dissipative mats (my CMOS & op-amps are safe!).
This is my modest setup where I build synthsesizers, which are in the studio next door (more info HERE (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/anyone-else-building-an-analogue-synthesizer-here/)...
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What is the name of the Desk Top Magnifying Glass you have?
Does it also have a light in it?
TIA
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http://www.harborfreight.com/desktop-magnifying-lamp-97448.html (http://www.harborfreight.com/desktop-magnifying-lamp-97448.html)
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What is the name of the Desk Top Magnifying Glass you have?
Does it also have a light in it?
TIA
Yes, it has a light built in, I got it from Maplin. It has the code A83GN, but when I did a search on Maplin's website, it only came up with the spare bulb. There are other lamps there though at a good price.
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Just finished building a 2 tier desk, from 1.5" square tubing
No need to worry about death from above, all rubber feet.
Equimpent on top rack (soon will be more) is perpendicular at eye level which is nice for reading LCD screens without getting up.
(http://i.imgur.com/FgJuveX.jpg)
Nice Nintendo 64 you have there. ;) Fixing it, or doing some hacking?
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I have made some changes but here are couple of videos of my bench for very very basic testing of access control equipment:
I added a 3457a along with a 12" deep shelf at the bottom.
and a couple of new toys.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF-Mb2nkTIo#ws[/url)
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ulPdTGmhI#ws[/url)
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Basic gear compared to some of you guys! :-+
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-tGdBivi15kw/VFRmTy3UGSI/AAAAAAAAKGg/Qhrk9expitk/s1200/IMG_1357.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2HqWU-Ra0gc/VFRmS4giM2I/AAAAAAAAKGo/PWTTmNPnnwc/s1200/1359-2.jpg)
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I hate all of you. >:D Jealousy Envy is an ugly feeling.
I stand by my edited statement.
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I am going to go clean up my lab now. I am tripping over too many things and boxes of unknown junk. Also I want to set up a separate Ham Radio station. Currently it occupies about a third of my bench. and is a mess. Also I am very unhappy with my parts/storage situation. I put shelves in a closet but its not ideal.
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Basic gear compared to some of you guys! :-+
Why do you need two chairs ?
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A chair is cheaper than a shelf? :-// ;)
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Why do you need two chairs ?
One with the back down, and the other is a back-up?
Or maybe he is that mythical geek with a partner who shares his technical interests? (I know, it's an unlikely concept.)
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Perhaps there's some teaching going on with an interested party, such as a kid. :-// 8)
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i finally got around to making a fresh start on my mancave/lab. Including putting up that awesome electromagnetic chart that dave found ages ago.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=115176)
I love the HP/Agilent Lab power supplies on the right side of your desk with the red/black wiring on top. How else can you access those damn connectors in the back. I guess I'm not the only eevblog "fool" with that issue and a similar solution to yours :) .
In addition (and to throw some contrast into the pic) I noticed the cheap Chinese 0-30V/5A power supply (with the bright burn your eyes out orange power button) on your shelf as well, despite having the HPs. I did the same thing and bought one for $50, as well for those times when portability is paramount.
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i finally got around to making a fresh start on my mancave/lab. Including putting up that awesome electromagnetic chart that dave found ages ago.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=115176)
I love the HP/Agilent Lab power supplies on the right side of your desk with the red/black wiring on top. How else can you access those damn connectors in the back. I guess I'm not the only eevblog "fool" with that issue and a similar solution to yours :) .
The PSU are built with the option of mounting front panel sockets.
Dave did a vid on his not long ago:
EEVblog #667 - Agilent 6643A Power Supply Binding Post Hack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgVsW4-cfh0#ws)
I CBA for the moment and found some 20A ring term to banana adapters, then use a standard extension lead to bring a socket round the front.
Not pretty, I will mod them properly when the time is right :)
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Basic gear compared to some of you guys! :-+
Why do you need two chairs ?
The front end of the bench requires differential input? :P
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Why do you need two chairs ?
One with the back down, and the other is a back-up?
Or maybe he is that mythical geek with a partner who shares his technical interests? (I know, it's an unlikely concept.)
HAH, you mean the one who refers to a multimeter as the 'geek-o-meter'? ;) No, no, it's much more boring than that - the offer/sale of the drafting chairs was for all (two) or nothing, so I took both! :-+
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i finally got around to making a fresh start on my mancave/lab. Including putting up that awesome electromagnetic chart that dave found ages ago.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=115176)
I love the HP/Agilent Lab power supplies on the right side of your desk with the red/black wiring on top. How else can you access those damn connectors in the back. I guess I'm not the only eevblog "fool" with that issue and a similar solution to yours :) .
The PSU are built with the option of mounting front panel sockets.
Dave did a vid on his not long ago:
EEVblog #667 - Agilent 6643A Power Supply Binding Post Hack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgVsW4-cfh0#ws)
I CBA for the moment and found some 20A ring term to banana adapters, then use a standard extension lead to bring a socket round the front.
Not pretty, I will mod them properly when the time is right :)
Notice how Dave damaged the front putting in those binding posts. I just don't see any good way of attaching them to the front plastic, even with a backing plate. The thing is just not made to support turning force/torque on the front panel.
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Here's my work space, messy but that's how i like it.
And some of the gear in the pics:
Digimess HM200
Fluke 77
Fluke 8600A
Fluke 8800A
Fluke 1900A
GW Instek GFG8020G
Philips PM 3365
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My, very humble, workbench. :)
It's only 90cm wide, 70cm deep and 3cm thick; it's quite claustrophobic and as you can see the scope takes quite alot of space on it!
(http://www.164td.nl/pics/elek/Workbench.jpg)
Little projects/repairs are going great but when I want to work on e.g. a receiver or other big object, then this
bench is obviously quite too small for it.
Though, I am in the progress of building two lookalikes of Dave's benches, 2mtr wide and 80cm deep, one for in the shed
as an all around workbench and one in my room for my electronics hobby and computer stuff; this one will have 100%
covered ESD matting.
Also got hold of a shelving system, containing of 3 non-drilling stands, 2x 90cm wide and 60cm deep shelves and
2x 90cm wide and 50cm deep shelves... all steel. It's like the Ikea Broder system but this system has perforated
plates between the stands to stiffer the setup. Will take a pic when everything is up and running!
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Guys, i think it's time to redefine your perception of "small bench" and "big mess"... i've got both at the same time ! :-DD
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=117294;image (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=117294;image)
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^That perf-board redefines "flying lead". :P
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my home lab..small but i get the job done :) http://janengelbrechtpedersen.dk/image.jpg (http://janengelbrechtpedersen.dk/image.jpg)
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Notice how Dave damaged the front putting in those binding posts. I just don't see any good way of attaching them to the front plastic, even with a backing plate. The thing is just not made to support turning force/torque on the front panel.
Not ALL of the HP programmable supplies have those big odd shaped holes in the front panel like the one Dave has.
I did the same mod as dave, and installed binding posts on the front of my HP 6632A (20V-5A). And on my 6632A model, unlike the one dave has, that model just has perfect round little holes in the aluminum already for binding posts, and all you have to do is cut through the front plastic and voila perfectly spaced binding posts(for dual plugs) and a full metal backing to attach them onto. It was super easy.
There are pictures someone else posted of their HP 6632A mods on the forum here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-6632a-fan-replacement-and-front-panel-posts/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-6632a-fan-replacement-and-front-panel-posts/)
I replaced the fan in mine with the temp controlled fan that was suggested in that topic as well, and its much much more quiet and tolerable on the bench.
In addition to the front posts, and fan mod that the guy in that older thread from 2013 did, I also ran a sense wire from the back to the front binding posts like dave as well so the supply is absolutely spot on using the front posts.
Now, if only there was a mod to add voltage/current multi-turn pots to the HP models like mine that do not have them, and you have to input everything via the keypad.
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Thought it about time I posted my disgrace of a workspace here :)
Desk (really needs a tidy!)
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae140/spamtastic1973/Desk/DSCF2893_zpsc33fe233.jpg)
Storage for equipment:
(http://i965.photobucket.com/albums/ae140/spamtastic1973/Desk/DSCF2899_zps95110270.jpg)
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Very nice and comfy looking.
That a VNA?
As well as Shoei (MTB or sportsbike?) and a powerkite.
Healthy body and mind :)
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Including putting up that awesome electromagnetic chart that dave found ages ago.
Where did you buy this great "Chart or electromagnetic radiation"
This looks really awesome.
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Very nice and comfy looking.
That a VNA?
As well as Shoei (MTB or sportsbike?) and a powerkite.
Healthy body and mind :)
No, not a VNA, the equipment on the desk photo is:
Hakko FX-888D
Rigol DS1104Z
Fluke 87 III
Instek PS-3030 PSU
HP ESA-L1500A 9Khz - 1.5GHz Spectrum Analyser,
And a cheapo toaster oven for reflow work.
There's also one of those chinese voltage references and an old Crystal calibrator I built about 20 years ago and a load of eval boards / custom test boards I built.
And on the racking:
HP 8595E 9KHz - 6.5GHz Spectrum Analyser
Eurostat TeraOhm Meter (In the black case, For sale)
Agilent OmniBER 719 (Bottom shelf, also for sale at some point when I can be bothered to create a listing for it)
The Shoei lid is for my other toy, a Yamaha XJ6-N >:D
Sadly don't get time to fly the kite very often, but its great fun when I do!
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@Yago: how much confidence can you have in a safety helmet that comes in that much protective packaging?
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Yamaha XJ6-N is very nice, streetfighter or supermoto have such beauty imho.
@Yago: how much confidence can you have in a safety helmet that comes in that much protective packaging?
Not sure if you are joking Max?
Helmets absorb energy by their own destruction.
A damaged helmet cannot absorb as much energy.
We know that ain't much meeting furniture at lightspeed, but I have had some MTB accidents when a helmet has saved me from head injury.
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Where did you buy this great "Chart or electromagnetic radiation"
This looks really awesome.
He probably had it printed, you can find it here.
Be warned it's 107MB
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7404/9403051123_e904eb9c89_o.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7404/9403051123_e904eb9c89_o.jpg)
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Well just saw this topic and here is my small place where I love to spend few hours per day when i can :)
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Where did you buy this great "Chart or electromagnetic radiation"
This looks really awesome.
He probably had it printed, you can find it here.
Be warned it's 107MB
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7404/9403051123_e904eb9c89_o.jpg (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7404/9403051123_e904eb9c89_o.jpg)
Thanks so much for the link.
I have ordered a poster from it.
This will be a nice addition to the lab.
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How mine is looking lately, tidier than usual.
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I had no more room for a drill press and vise in my electronics lab.
so I put a workbench, with Bosch DP 500 drill press stand (http://www.bosch-pt.com/za/en/accocs/Accessories/171774/drill-stand-dp-500/) and Heuer Compact Vise (http://www.schraubstock.de/en/vices/compact/), in my living room :) for non-electronic work:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=119893;image)
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I had no more room for a drill press and vise in my electronics lab.
so I put a workbench, with Bosch DP 500 drill press stand (http://www.bosch-pt.com/za/en/accocs/Accessories/171774/drill-stand-dp-500/) and Heuer Compact Vise (http://www.schraubstock.de/en/vices/compact/), in my living room :) for non-electronic work:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=119893;image)
A mitre saw as well :)
Too clean (standing joke "Do you do any work" ;) )
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Too clean (standing joke "Do you do any work" ;) )
I hope that my electronics lab is messy enough for you ;)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=119909;image)
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:-DD was sort of joking but i wish mine was that clean. ;D
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A mitre saw as well :)
Too clean (standing joke "Do you do any work" ;) )
I hope that my electronics lab is messy enough for you ;)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=119909;image)
There are so many things I love about your lab! The articulating arm laptop mount, the clamp-on pose-able spot lights, the shelf-mounted ethernet switch and USB hub, and the choice of some of your gear. You've given me some ideas for my own lab!
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=119909;image)
There are so many things I love about your lab! The articulating arm laptop mount, the clamp-on pose-able spot lights, the shelf-mounted ethernet switch and USB hub, and the choice of some of your gear. You've given me some ideas for my own lab!
Indeed. That laptop mount idea I am totally going to steal. This is one of those "why didn't I think of that" moments.
Take a standard articulated lamp, remove the lampy bits, reinforce the hinges, and cobble together a mount plate for the laptop that you attach where the lampy bits used to be. I think I even have a spare lamp that's just the ticket.
As for those clamp-on lamps, these are indeed quite handy! I have a couple of those and the stand variety on the bench. Lemme see if I can find the link for those ...
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80169636/ (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/80169636/)
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20169658/ (http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20169658/)
I always use two of those (the ones with the stand) for some extra lighting when soldering.
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The articulating arm laptop mount,
The laptop mount is a regular (ergotron) monitor arm with a special attachment for laptops that screws onto the standard VESA mounting holes.
Something like :
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ergotron-50-193-200-Notebook-Arm-Mount-Tray/13044871 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ergotron-50-193-200-Notebook-Arm-Mount-Tray/13044871)
The idea was to only show schematics, connect a USB logic analyzer etc. on this old laptop.
The laptop has Ultra VNC (http://www.uvnc.com/) on it.
If I need to do a lot of typing on the laptop, then I will use another PC (on the left, outside the picture) to remote control the laptop.
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Well, unless I can get it second hand somewhere I'm not going to spend $100 for arm + tray.
And I use the laptop pretty much the same way. Display datasheet, run test scripts, remote firmware flashing from the main dev machine, logic analyzer, that sort of thing.
Right now the laptop is a bit in the way at times, and an arm like that on the side of the desk looks like a nice solution.
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...magical laptop support arm...
Heh. I looked at the photo and thought 'Wait, how can... it's too heavy...?'
Hands up who else first thought the planetary magnifier/lamp was the laptop stand?
Took me waaaay too long to figure it out.
Blue is lamp, red is monitor-laptop stand (mostly hidden.)
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Hands up who else first thought the planetary magnifier/lamp was the laptop stand?
*raises hand*
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Hands up who else first thought the planetary magnifier/lamp was the laptop stand?
*raises hand*
Ok, Sorry... ;)
It seems next time I'll have to do a virtual 3d walkthrough animation so that there can be no confusion? (bring your own 3d glasses)...
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Well, actually I like the mistaken identity version of reality better. ;D That's the one that gave me an idea to try out. Now all I need is a couple of sturdy discs, screws and a bunch of strong springs I swear I had somewhere in the spare parts box.
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Hm.
Let's add to a tidy list.
I am somewhat of a hoarder, and tend to work on many different projects at once.
But you won't really notice that just coming into the work room.
(http://i.imgur.com/YTDYVrn.jpg)
That is because i also have an itch for order.
All the stuff is kept stowed away.
(http://i.imgur.com/rX4xVS9.jpg)
Organised, colour-coded and unlabeled.
(http://i.imgur.com/3RfROcf.jpg)
With an occasional spot of clutter.
(http://i.imgur.com/o88LVVb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MWHkuOA.jpg)
Including a set of foldable tables.
In case a project expands beyond the bench space, the bench space expands to accomodate.
(http://i.imgur.com/rvpFdbn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RH6MGBj.jpg)
The way the itch works, i compartmentalise everything.
Any project starts with a wood board to work on, or a box to fit it, or a frame to hang off.
So it can be rapidly and cleanly put away as a whole, in case i'd want to do something else.
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What a really nice workspace!
Should be ArtLab!
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Hands up who else first thought the planetary magnifier/lamp was the laptop stand?
*raises hand*
Me, too. :palm:
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Hm.
Let's add to a tidy list.
I am somewhat of a hoarder, and tend to work on many different projects at once.
But you won't really notice that just coming into the work room.
Now thats neat.... Seriously if i could keep my small corner that neat my wife would maybe stop nagging about it ;)
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Atleast 2 3D printers, a HUGE induction heater are what are immediately visible!!!
:-)
Nicely organised though!!
Quote from: Artlav on Yesterday at 11:34:44 PM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg556249#msg556249)Hm.
Let's add to a tidy list.
I am somewhat of a hoarder, and tend to work on many different projects at once.
But you won't really notice that just coming into the work room.
>(http://i.imgur.com/YTDYVrn.jpg)
That is because i also have an itch for order.
All the stuff is kept stowed away.
(http://i.imgur.com/rX4xVS9.jpg)
Organised, colour-coded and unlabeled.
(http://i.imgur.com/3RfROcf.jpg)
With an occasional spot of clutter.
(http://i.imgur.com/o88LVVb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MWHkuOA.jpg)
Including a set of foldable tables.
In case a project expands beyond the bench space, the bench space expands to accomodate.
(http://i.imgur.com/rvpFdbn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RH6MGBj.jpg)
The way the itch works, i compartmentalise everything.
Any project starts with a wood board to work on, or a box to fit it, or a frame to hang off.
So it can be rapidly and cleanly put away as a whole, in case i'd want to do something else.
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Hands up who else first thought the planetary magnifier/lamp was the laptop stand?
*raises hand*
Me, too. :palm:
And me...
But it's ok! I still really like the idea, and will likely attempt it. I already plan on having a small swing-out/hide-away keyboard tray under my desk. I've been considering changing the plan to simply use a wireless keyboard and mouse tucked away into a nonmoving shelf-slot under the desk. I can use that to leave the laptop alone when necessary, and leave them stowed and use the laptop directly when all my bench space is taken.
The foldables are an excellent idea as well. I have space for extra benchtop when I am using it, but it blocks traffic, so having it be stowed away when not in use is the perfect solution! Your lab has many clever problem solvers in it. Props!
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Hm.
Let's add to a tidy list.
I am somewhat of a hoarder, and tend to work on many different projects at once.
But you won't really notice that just coming into the work room.
(http://i.imgur.com/YTDYVrn.jpg)
That is because i also have an itch for order.
All the stuff is kept stowed away.
(http://i.imgur.com/rX4xVS9.jpg)
Organised, colour-coded and unlabeled.
(http://i.imgur.com/3RfROcf.jpg)
With an occasional spot of clutter.
(http://i.imgur.com/o88LVVb.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/MWHkuOA.jpg)
Including a set of foldable tables.
In case a project expands beyond the bench space, the bench space expands to accomodate.
(http://i.imgur.com/rvpFdbn.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/RH6MGBj.jpg)
The way the itch works, i compartmentalise everything.
Any project starts with a wood board to work on, or a box to fit it, or a frame to hang off.
So it can be rapidly and cleanly put away as a whole, in case i'd want to do something else.
That's simply a thing of beauty :-+ :-+ :-+ one of the best hobbyist labs here :-+ and extra points for the giant glass power tube on the top shelf ;)
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Yes, that's definitely a thing of beauty. You've inspired me to do some lab cleaning today :-+ :scared:
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Is that really a functioning PC hanging on the wall?
I like that.
With an occasional spot of clutter.
(http://i.imgur.com/o88LVVb.jpg)
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Holy compartmentalization, Batman! ;D
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Is that really a functioning PC hanging on the wall?
No, unfortunately.
That PC burned out in the "overheating AMD" era, and is nothing more than a decoration and a place to hang an antenna off.
and extra points for the giant glass power tube on the top shelf ;)
A 1.5 megawatt pulse modulation tetrode from a Soviet radar, fully functional.
No idea what to do with it, so it serves a decorative role for now. :)
Wrote about it here (in Russian, but have all the pictures): http://lavart.livejournal.com/3340.html (http://lavart.livejournal.com/3340.html)
(http://i.imgur.com/o57CRk3.jpg)
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I suppose it is about time I posted my bench. With limited space one of the challenges I have experienced is the constant putting a project to one side to continue with another project. The main reason waiting for parts.
Most solutions in the past have been to buy more test gear and extend a bench, but I neither have the money nor the room to put extra bench and extra test gear. Instead I decided to build an experimental bench that allows me to have 3 con-concurrent projects on the bench without packing it away and have to put it back when the parts arrive.
Very simple design mostly geared for sitting down, using a Lazy Susan under a simple round table, the test equipment shelf can be raised for standing height as well. I still have a lot more to do with this bench but so far it has worked surprisingly well for me at least. I loose a bit of bench space being a round table but I have been able to utilise this space reasonably well. More to come in the future I hope. I can also pull out the round table as well to offer greater room if required.
I have more bench space for specific tasks though but that will be shown at a later time.
Cheers
Mal
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Here's mine in its current state. Upgraded from the last time I posted on this thread.
Nothing special, but does the job :)
(http://i.imgur.com/6ofR5qW.jpg)
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Here's mine in its current state. Upgraded from the last time I posted on this thread.
Nothing special, but does the job :)
(http://i.imgur.com/6ofR5qW.jpg)
I see that bottle of Jack's Honey liquor hiding behind that function gen ;)
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I see that bottle of Jack's Honey liquor hiding behind that function gen ;)
Shhhhhh
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I see that bottle of Jack's Honey liquor hiding behind that function gen ;)
Shhhhhh
It’s for cleaning boards, like isopropyl alcohol. :-+
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I see that bottle of Jack's Honey liquor ... ;)
Hang on a sec, wouldn't it be more appropriate to refer to it as his Fuzzy Logic Generator? :o :P
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I see that bottle of Jack's Honey liquor ... ;)
Hang on a sec, wouldn't it be more appropriate to refer to it as his Fuzzy Logic Generator? :o :P
Best joke I've read on here in a good long time! :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
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I see that bottle of Jack's Honey liquor ... ;)
Hang on a sec, wouldn't it be more appropriate to refer to it as his Fuzzy Logic Generator? :o :P
Touche!
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I see that bottle of Jack's Honey liquor ... ;)
Hang on a sec, wouldn't it be more appropriate to refer to it as his Fuzzy Logic Generator? :o :P
Best joke I've read on here in a good long time! :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
+1 ;D ;D ;D
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you guys don't get out much if that was a funny joke :) not saying that to attack, just surprising to me that ... ahh nevermind. i must watch too much comedy.
it's important to laugh at the little things, i suppose. you guys did and i didn't, so thumbs up to you guys (yes, seriously.)
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you guys don't get out much if that was a funny joke :) not saying that to attack, just surprising to me that ... ahh nevermind. i must watch too much comedy.
it's important to laugh at the little things, i suppose. you guys did and i didn't, so thumbs up to you guys (yes, seriously.)
Well, I'm a teenager with this lot in my bedroom, so I don't get out much no :)
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Well, I'm a teenager with this lot in my bedroom, so I don't get out much no :)
You get out enough to win an award for something, so yes.
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Almost done....
- third Jerker bench in : check
- new wireframe-shelfs ( also called breadcarts ) from Quantum Storage in place : check
- industrial synthetic marble floor : check
- antistatic mat covering wall to wall : check.
- stuff organized in boxes as opposed into shopping bags on the floor : check
- extra power feed of 4 x 15 ampere : check
- computers nicely organized and on pedestal : check
- new central master gigabit switch : check
- new local NAS : check
- new cable arrangers : check
- power switchboard ( isolation transformer / variac / switchable series ballast ) : 75% done
- articulating monitor arm : to be done
- 42 inch touchscreen : in place , needs bolting down
- dedicated Spectrum/network/ RF rack : in progress
- dedicated Logic analysis rack : in progress
- re-cable and repartition instruments across benches and new feeders: in progress
i shot multiple pictures as work progressed.
hope to complete by next weekend.
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Well, I'm a teenager with this lot in my bedroom, so I don't get out much no :)
You get out enough to win an award for something, so yes.
That is the "Gatwick Airport prize for electronics", for my college project (analogue auto ranging ohm meter). Pleased that I won something, although I haven't figured out why an airport manager decided to sponsor this of all things...
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Almost done....
- third Jerker bench in : check
- new wireframe-shelfs ( also called breadcarts ) from Quantum Storage in place : check
- industrial synthetic marble floor : check
- antistatic mat covering wall to wall : check.
- stuff organized in boxes as opposed into shopping bags on the floor : check
- extra power feed of 4 x 15 ampere : check
- computers nicely organized and on pedestal : check
- new central master gigabit switch : check
- new local NAS : check
- new cable arrangers : check
- power switchboard ( isolation transformer / variac / switchable series ballast ) : 75% done
- articulating monitor arm : to be done
- 42 inch touchscreen : in place , needs bolting down
- dedicated Spectrum/network/ RF rack : in progress
- dedicated Logic analysis rack : in progress
- re-cable and repartition instruments across benches and new feeders: in progress
i shot multiple pictures as work progressed.
hope to complete by next weekend.
42 inch touchscreen? You'd be standing so close to touch it that you can't see 80% of the screen surely?
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I have an 80" touchscreen at work (not on my desk). I use the hell out of that thing.
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Here is my lab. Mostly for repair works and for some prototyping projects.
The shelf is not finished. I haven´t enough time for all. But maybe the end of the year can help with free time.
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I like the stereo microscope on an arm, is that home made or a pre built unit?
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I like the stereo microscope on an arm, is that home made or a pre built unit?
Pre built. With some changes. Now is really stable and quiet comfortable. Long time ago I bought that here (but for more cheaper price: http://www.weidinger.eu/en/shop/fume_extraction/soldering_fume/weidinger/weidinger_wla-1_and_accessories/wla-1_accessories/wl15529 (http://www.weidinger.eu/en/shop/fume_extraction/soldering_fume/weidinger/weidinger_wla-1_and_accessories/wla-1_accessories/wl15529)
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Thanks, looks nice gear. Nice lab as well.
Robert
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My small little corner in the study room.
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My start of humble beginnings.
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My start of humble beginnings.
the important part is starting :-+
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My start of humble beginnings.
the important part is starting :-+
Joey "The Lips" Fagan? :P
Indeed though, even giants start small.
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Here's my la............ who am i kidding, it's a mess. :-[
(http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t545/VERYlowbudgetRC/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0082_zpsfa680d02.jpg) (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/VERYlowbudgetRC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0082_zpsfa680d02.jpg.html)
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Here is my lab. Mostly for repair works and for some prototyping projects.
The shelf is not finished. I haven´t enough time for all. But maybe the end of the year can help with free time.
nice ! i like it. kinda what i started with.
it is now almost in the state i want it to be in. i will finish it in the next few days and then post pictures.
power switchboard ( isolation transformer / variac / switchable series ballast ) : 75% done
- articulating monitor arm : -done-
- compressed air on every bench -done-
- 42 inch touchscreen : support structure made
- dedicated Spectrum/network/ RF rack : in progress
- dedicated Logic analysis rack : in progress
- re-cable and repartition instruments across benches and new feeders: in progress
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Here is my lab. Mostly for repair works and for some prototyping projects.
The shelf is not finished. I haven´t enough time for all. But maybe the end of the year can help with free time.
nice ! i like it. kinda what i started with.
it is now almost in the state i want it to be in. i will finish it in the next few days and then post pictures.
power switchboard ( isolation transformer / variac / switchable series ballast ) : 75% done
- articulating monitor arm : -done-
- compressed air on every bench -done-
- 42 inch touchscreen : support structure made
- dedicated Spectrum/network/ RF rack : in progress
- dedicated Logic analysis rack : in progress
- re-cable and repartition instruments across benches and new feeders: in progress
A person can get singled out you know, jus' sayin' ;) :D
Looking forward to seeing it, Free.
Actually, between the "starts" and the "Ends" are all our dreams.
A bit Forest Gump, but threads like this are as inspirational as they are aspirational.
One day I'll post a pic here, one day...
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power switchboard ( isolation transformer / variac / switchable series ballast ) : 75% done
- articulating monitor arm : -done-
- compressed air on every bench -done-
- 42 inch touchscreen : support structure made
- dedicated Spectrum/network/ RF rack : in progress
- dedicated Logic analysis rack : in progress
- re-cable and repartition instruments across benches and new feeders: in progress
If only I had your time, money, know-how and motivation... :-DD
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It is the motivation more than anything else.
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some people enjoy a good glass of beer or wine, i enjoy a good soldering session or repair. plus the money invested isn't pissed down the drain afterward :)
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some people enjoy a good glass of beer or wine, i enjoy a good soldering session or repair. plus the money invested isn't pissed down the drain afterward :)
The two can go quite well together. ;D
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some people enjoy a good glass of beer or wine, i enjoy a good soldering session or repair. plus the money invested isn't pissed down the drain afterward :)
For me finding a big CRT TV in the dumpster is like cristmas and hours of joy taking parts out and sorting them out ;D.
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some people enjoy a good glass of beer or wine, i enjoy a good soldering session or repair. plus the money invested isn't pissed down the drain afterward :)
Well, I am just playing with a new 33522B Series Generator and using BenchVue to copy waveforms from my scope to the generator.
And having a great glass of red California wine with it.
It can go together.
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It is, however, important not to get carried away.
On one hand, you might wake up and find something you made that works, but have no clue how the heck does it do that.
On the other hand, you might never ever wake up 'cause you found it funny to draw arcs from the mains with your fingers...
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some people enjoy a good glass of beer or wine, i enjoy a good soldering session or repair. plus the money invested isn't pissed down the drain afterward :)
Well, I am just playing with a new 33522B Series Generator and using BenchVue to copy waveforms from my scope to the generator.
And having a great glass of red California wine with it.
It can go together.
hehe that's true http://youtu.be/U7ao3Ylew-Q (http://youtu.be/U7ao3Ylew-Q)
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My small little corner in the study room.
Awww, that'sa cute corner. :-+
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My start of humble beginnings.
the important part is starting :-+
Joey "The Lips" Fagan? :P
Indeed though, even giants start small.
I couldn't let that pass
(https://spiritofthething.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/commitments-joey-the-lips.jpg?w=529&h=327)
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Here's my home office/lab :D
Computers by day, RF by night.
cheers
Tim
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Here's my home office/lab :D
Computers by day, RF by night.
cheers
Tim
Oh that looks great!
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What transverter do you use for 10GHz (?Kuhne, DEM), is that a homebrew TVx on the left side of the lab using the IC910 or perhaps a FT 817 hidden elsewhere?
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Some really nice set ups here, currently trying to completely re-layout my own workshop using some of these as inspiration. :-+
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What transverter do you use for 10GHz (?Kuhne, DEM), is that a homebrew TVx on the left side of the lab using the IC910 or perhaps a FT 817 hidden elsewhere?
For 10Ghz I have a home brew unit made out of Harris digital link parts, that gives me 1 watt !! - QRO by Ghz standards, I also have a VK3XDK transverter, yet to be assembled. I also have a kit for 5 Ghz and a Thales 24/26Ghz unit ( 1 watt there too!) that needs an LO and some PIC to make work. Packed away I have a TVx for 2.4Ghz that does 60w, also built out of misc parts scoured from eBay and ham field days.
On the bench is a TVx for 475Khz ( modified VK3XDK design), the Bird on top of it currently checking power out and power reflected. I just finished a new antenna for 600m and was doing some WSPR tests when I took the pic. WSPRx is on the screens. The TVx is driven by my IC-7400.
There is an 817 in the pic, just up and to the right of the IC-910, it's not being used for anything right now. The Hp3586B I use for LF & VLF dx and for FMT.
Al the radios I've modified to use a 10Mhz referenced LO as do the transverters and test gear. There is a Thunderbolt GPSDO in the pic that provides the reference source and its output is distributed by a distribution amp behind the HP3586.
The PC I use for radio also has a GPIB card and extra serial ports to interface to all the radios and the test gear and a 192k multichannel sound card for running SpectrumLab plugged into the 7400 and 3586. I also have the GPIB toolkit, LabView and other s/w to collect, collate and massage data from the test gear.
cheers
Tim
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@TSL,
Nice set up. I 'cheated' re 10GHz using a Kuhne TVx with a DEM PA; MiniKIts sequencer
1W at 24GHz, wow !!!!!!
Interesting I also have a HP 3586 but I am never around for the FMT (work keeps getting in the way) I recall an article about how in those units the BFO is not locked to the frequency reference input, why would you not do that?!!
EDIT Found the reference if you haven't seen it. http://ve2zaz.net/HP3586_AD5962/HP3586_AD5962.htm (http://ve2zaz.net/HP3586_AD5962/HP3586_AD5962.htm)
I am slowly locking my transceivers with VK3HZ's X refs (IC910 and FT817) but have not touched my IC756 P3. HP Z3801 gpsdo.
Might catch up at Gipps Tech ?
73
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@TSL,
Nice set up. I 'cheated' re 10GHz using a Kuhne TVx with a DEM PA; MiniKIts sequencer
1W at 24GHz, wow !!!!!!
Roger on the TVx, many people go that way - building stuff at these frequencies can be challenging enough, more so if you don't have test gear to verify operation.
Interesting I also have a HP 3586 but I am never around for the FMT (work keeps getting in the way) I recall an article about how in those units the BFO is not locked to the frequency reference input, why would you not do that?!!
EDIT Found the reference if you haven't seen it. http://ve2zaz.net/HP3586_AD5962/HP3586_AD5962.htm (http://ve2zaz.net/HP3586_AD5962/HP3586_AD5962.htm)
I had considered doing that, but now I'm doing it differently :).
I take the IF out from the HP3586 and input that to the left channel of the sound card, I then take the output from the HP3336B, offset by 1Khz, and input that to the right channel of the sound card. I then have a macro in SpectrumLab that plots delta between the received signal in the IF and the reference signal thus eliminating any drift or offset introduced by the sound card. Given both instruments are synced to the same 10Mhz reference I can get milli Hz accuracy on extremely weak signals.
I am slowly locking my transceivers with VK3HZ's X refs (IC910 and FT817) but have not touched my IC756 P3. HP Z3801 gpsdo.
Might catch up at Gipps Tech ?
73
I'm using the Xrefs too for the radios, they work extremely well and have excellent stability and phase noise characteristics even when not locked to 10MHz.
As for GippsTech - I'd love to go but work is often at its busiest and I think last time it was on I was in the US for a meeting at head office.
cheers
Tim
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This is corner of my bedroom, it's nothing fancy nor professional, but it's enough to get yourself lost in the rabbit hole of electronics.
On first image is workbench, it's fairly small for my needs, i also use it for homework and studying, since i use it for more than electronics that place is always covered in mess and there is never enough space. On the right hand side of table i have DIY powersupply and Weller PU81.
On second image there is tool box, mostly hand tools, dremmel and some other accessories.
On third image there are multimeters, 80% of time i use Protek 506, on UT61E voltage, micro and mili amps aren't working, and i use it mostly for capacitance/resistance measurements, cynical Fuke DT9205 powers up but every range is out of spec and it is crap, i have it because i like having bunch of DMMs around, i feel professional and sophisticated. :-DD
I like calculators, and on forth picture there is Casio fx-991ES plus which i use in school, and HP48G is for my personal amusement.
5. 6. and 7th image is of my recent mod for workbench, i bought LED strip that was on discount, it's warm white 12V. Since i didn't have 12V adaptor, so i cut two stripes 80cm long and connected them in series so i can use 24V adaptor which i have. So in total those are two 80cm strips connected in series that are placed parallel to one another. 102 LEDs total, it gives bright light, but it's not blinding as the light i have had before (rotating lamp attached to desk). Light is even and it's ideal for technical drawing. I used some medical tape to tape up the cable to desk so it doesn't fall down and pull the stripes, it's only temporally untill i find transparent tape.
Future plans: definetly osciloscope, been looking for one atleast 7 months, prices of second hand scopes in Croatia are unbelievable. Hot air station might come soon, also looking for function generator.
Also i might build another bench so that it makes letter L with current bench, or if my budget gets low ill get rolling chart where i will have powersupply, function generator and osciloscope. I'm teen and i need more space (on the bench).
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some people enjoy a good glass of beer or wine, i enjoy a good soldering session or repair. plus the money invested isn't pissed down the drain afterward :)
The two can go quite well together. ;D
I find all three go well together: beer, wine and beer. I mean soldering.
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Remember the neat space i posted a few months ago?
Well, for the contrast here is what it looks like near it's worst, thanks to a certain Capxon capacitor in the PC's PSU deciding it had enough, in the middle of a couple other projects being on the table already.
(http://i.imgur.com/PLZOyPa.jpg)
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Here is my lab. Mostly for repair works and for some prototyping projects.
The shelf is not finished. I haven´t enough time for all. But maybe the end of the year can help with free time.
nice ! i like it. kinda what i started with.
it is now almost in the state i want it to be in. i will finish it in the next few days and then post pictures.
power switchboard ( isolation transformer / variac / switchable series ballast ) : 75% done
- articulating monitor arm : -done-
- compressed air on every bench -done-
- 42 inch touchscreen : support structure made
- dedicated Spectrum/network/ RF rack : in progress
- dedicated Logic analysis rack : in progress
- re-cable and repartition instruments across benches and new feeders: in progress
Here is a bigger picture from december. Next week I will finish the shelfs (I hope) and the compressed air. The compressor is finished (8L 4bar) and silent enough but only for one workplace till now. Very low-cost :D
The lighting is not finished too. Because I want to build a same over the whole bench like on the photo on a window side.
Here is my lab. Mostly for repair works and for some prototyping projects.
The shelf is not finished. I haven´t enough time for all. But maybe the end of the year can help with free time.
hmmm that magnifying lens arm with ring illum ... may i ask how much and if there is a web link to it? ... is it a 10x?
That is only 4x. The LED light is really good and the arm mechanic too. But The magnifier is not a big deal, was about 100€.
some people enjoy a good glass of beer or wine, i enjoy a good soldering session or repair. plus the money invested isn't pissed down the drain afterward :)
The two can go quite well together. ;D
I think the same :D
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Took about an hour to go through all these pictures today. :-+ Here's what 40 years of my addiction has done.
Some time in the early 70's with my CB radios and Dumont scope.
Late 70's with my first HC and National radios. Notice my Radio Shack meter and transistor tester.
Late 80's had stopped playing with radios by then and got hooked on computers. 8MHz AT clone with my Quantum
By the early 90s, I had my first mixed mode DSO and a 141T with a tracking generator.
2000 came, the world did not end and my lab continued to grow.... I bought my first VNA and my first LeCroy DSO.
That's fascinating! Except you forgot to include pics from the last 15 years?
One of my great regrets is that in my early life I was so poor I very rarely even had a camera, and when I did I was frugal with taking pics because of the cost of film development and prints. Sigh. I started out in electronics in my pre-teens (early 60s) and have nothing in the way of photos from then until much later.
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My work-bench/lab for repair and for analog and power electronics projects.
I have a lot more test equipments.
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Recently I have been turning this
(http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-jWXbXXx/0/L/i-jWXbXXx-L.jpg)
into this
(http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-DZSdLFp/0/L/i-DZSdLFp-L.jpg)
It's still a work in progress... 8)
and after a bit more settling in, into this:
(http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-33QvVJZ/0/XL/i-33QvVJZ-L.jpg)
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and after a bit more settling in, into this:
http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-33QvVJZ/0/XL/i-33QvVJZ-L.jpg (http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-33QvVJZ/0/XL/i-33QvVJZ-L.jpg)
quite a nice solution. Can I ask why with the shelving brackets you have them on the top, rather then on the bottom?
-kizzap
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and after a bit more settling in, into this:
http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-33QvVJZ/0/XL/i-33QvVJZ-L.jpg (http://andtfoot.smugmug.com/photos/i-33QvVJZ/0/XL/i-33QvVJZ-L.jpg)
quite a nice solution. Can I ask why with the shelving brackets you have them on the top, rather then on the bottom?
-kizzap
I honestly can't remember...
The desk itself has them both sides for strength, but as for the shelves... maybe I was trying to increase rigidity of the uprights by increasing the distance between bracing points? Maybe I was lazy? Too much homebrew? ;D
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Looks good, might not be strong but it allows the equipment in the middle shelf to slide in unobstructed.
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With those brackets having then on top makes it easier to undo a shelf, as otherwise you have to try to get to the back between the shelf. Upside down you have easy access to undo or do up the screws. If you want them to be as strong as the regular method just use a bolt and nut that goes through the shelf and bracket ( plus an extra 5 threads on the end) and use the largest fender washer on the bottom as you can get to spread the load. M5 bolts and nylock nuts with a pair of fender washers ( I use a large one on the shelf and a smaller one between that and the bolt head to spread the load more evenly) will never come loose, and the shelf or the bracket will fail before the stainless steel bolt in most cases, providing you use all 3 mount holes.
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(http://www.wellenkino.de/tekregal/001.jpg)
If you like oldies... :)
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Added a shelf above my fgen/scope so i could place component racks there, it's much nicer to prototype at now.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7525/16309129572_58d18ef903_c.jpg) (https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7525/16309129572_fccef7ed71_o.jpg)
I think the next step is to build a taller frame for the desk - it's currently 70cm from the ground which is fine to sit at with an office chair but uncomfortably low to stand at. Raising it up to around 95cm and getting a tall stool should do the trick.
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Hey TMM, Nice setup :-+
Hey Martin.M - nice collection of oldies :D
cheers
Tim
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Hey TMM, Nice setup :-+
Hey Martin.M - nice collection of oldies :D
cheers
Tim
Martin has a great thread covering his scopes with pics of internals and restoration:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/vintage-tek-restoration-pictures-by-martin/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/vintage-tek-restoration-pictures-by-martin/)
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quite a nice solution. Can I ask why with the shelving brackets you have them on the top, rather then on the bottom?
He's Australian. What makes you say they are upside down?
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What's the unit in the center of the center shelf?
It looks like an old Rohde and Schwarz Polyskop SWOB 3.
http://www.classicbroadcast.de/downloads/rohde_SWOB3.pdf (http://www.classicbroadcast.de/downloads/rohde_SWOB3.pdf)
I think the thing sat on top of it is a very old Rohde and Schwarz signal generator. SMLR?
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After spending way too much time reading through this whole thread, I thought I would post my bench/school desk/bedside table. BTW I cleaned it yesterday, in an effort to fit my nice new analogue scope (thanks Toploser) on. I think it works with the room :-+
The soldering is done downstairs in the freezing cold/boiling hot conservatory, where I hope to build a bench in the future, so I don't put off soldering for so long.
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Thought I'd post some pics of my shack :)
Not a lot of room to work on stuff but what can you do
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=130968;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=130966;image)
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Not a lot of room to work on stuff but what can you do
Rent a storage space? That's what Dave does when his junk is taking up too much of the lab... >:D
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Rent a storage space? ...
I'd rather spend the monthly bill on a psychiatrist to treat my hoarding syndrome ;D
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Rent a storage space? ...
I'd rather spend the monthly bill on a psychiatrist to treat my hoarding syndrome ;D
Nah. Just put up another building/add to an existing one. ;) Not only does it contain your stash, but it's likely to be cheaper than the bill from the psychiatrist as well. >:D :-+ :-DD
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Hi,
This is the cave where the bear measure the WAF (I discovered this notion in this forum and I like it!).
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Been a few months but I've gone from this:
(http://www.164td.nl/pics/elek/Workbench.jpg)
to this:
(http://www.164td.nl/pics/elek/bureau17.jpg)
So, from 90cm wide / 70cm depth to 120cm wide and 80cm depth but with all my gear
on the shelving, so I can work on MUCH bigger objects like e.g. monitors and amplifiers. :)
Dave gave me an idea for the desk to use; I build a lookalike of one of his lab benches
and it's really steady as a house. :-+
(http://www.164td.nl/pics/elek/bureau06.jpg)
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Having "just" moved in October, my workplace starts to become as intended. There are two desks and this one has about the final state... PC, PSU (Statron 2224.9) and DMM (Schlumberger 7150+).
The power supply unit had a problem that I just fixed before placing it here. Mini teardown follows.
(As promised: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/statron-2224-9-teardown-and-repair/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/statron-2224-9-teardown-and-repair/)
You might ask "What about the other desk? Well thats true... some work is still necessary there before the photo-op, and from there SWMBO is visible and she doesn't want to appear on the photo.
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I've lurked for about 6 months, first post. I got a lot of inspiration from this thread for my bench setup. I spent a Saturday and half a Sunday putting it together.
(http://i.imgur.com/pTpJYpr.jpg)
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I've lurked for about 6 months, first post. I got a lot of inspiration from this thread for my bench setup. I spent a Saturday and half a Sunday putting it together.
(http://i.imgur.com/pTpJYpr.jpg)
Picture is not attached. Please try again so we can shamelessly copy any good ideas you may have come up with.
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I can see it just fine. Looks like a very nice setup, if slightly cramped.
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I like the baking sheet used as a tool caddy. Not bad. If you need more room, you don't have to pick up a bunch of tools, just pick up the tray. Nice!
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I like the baking sheet used as a tool caddy. Not bad. If you need more room, you don't have to pick up a bunch of tools, just pick up the tray. Nice!
+1 for me on that too.
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Nothing wrong with that set up. :-+
Doesn't look cramped at all to me, but then my "lab" is in a closet. :)
I like the pegboards. I added a couple of small plastic pegboards not too long ago and it really helped out a lot, providing a lot of extra storage space where there was once just a blank section of wall.
I've lurked for about 6 months, first post. I got a lot of inspiration from this thread for my bench setup. I spent a Saturday and half a Sunday putting it together.
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Looks quite nice IMHO. :-+
Bit messy, but that's usually a good sign. ;) >:D
On a bit of a serious note, I suspect a couple of the inexpensive plastic drawer organizer units could help straighten up the top shelf (example (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sterilite-3-Drawer-Mini-Organizer-Set-of-6/10877957); stuff the smalls in them, and stack the instruments). Which in turn would let you move things off of the working surface when not necessary to give yourself some more room to work (or make room for parts storage). :)
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Grigs, nice bench now that I can see it. I have a magnifier just like yours. Very helpful for these old eyes.
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Wow some really nice setup here. Some inspiration for when I build myself a proper work area. I'm barely into electronics yet so just have a tiny little desk that I work on but I plan to build myself a big computer desk, one side for computer other side to tinker (useful if there's stuff I want to connect to the computer such as arduino boards).
So for now, here's my computer desk:
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-2668-dsc_6222.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/other/random/dsc_6222.jpg)
And to make up for the lack of proper workbench, here is my server room: 8)
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-2123-dsc_2299.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/house_projects/server_room/dsc_2299.jpg)
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My 2 cents? Move that printer as far away as you comfortably can. You have limited desk space - and if you're not running a business that pumps out 10 or more pages a day - not worth it.
+1 on the chair warmer. Invaluable part of any lab IMHO.
That server rack....is odd. What's the story on that?
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When I build a new desk that printer is going away, I just don't have another place to put it now. New desk will span that entire wall. Server rack runs all my home stuff. Home automation, file server, mail, DNS, VM, the works. First rack is where the magic happens, second rack is practically empty short of power backup system but plans to expand that and 3rd rack is battery rack. Eventually might do wind/solar and it will all tie there as well but that's more of a dream than a plan. Cost a lot of money. I plan to greatly expand on the home automation part. That will probably be my first real electronics project. Debating on if I even want to turn it into a potential product.
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I have a Siamese cat that looks exactly like that, and also steals my chair too! :-DD
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-2668-dsc_6222.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/other/random/dsc_6222.jpg)
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Little workbench but I hope this year will be reconstructed :)
Oscilloscopes
OWON DS8202V
HAMEG HM203
TEKTRONIX 465B (not on picture)
FLUKE 123
FPGA4FUN PC scope
Multimeters
HP4378A
FLUKE 115
UNI-T UT10A (shit not on picture)
RANGE RE6810
Tesla DU20 nice piece of vintage analog
Counter homemade 1.3GHz
Spectrum analyzer HP8559A (not on picture)
Power Supply
2x Agilent 6632B
1x Tesla SZ.81 30V 1A
Homemade isolation transformer
Tesla Krizik RA10 10A variac
Other
homemade RLC checker
homemade GDO 500MHz
homemade GDO 200Mhz
homemade LC meter
homemade FET pairing expander for scope
homemade Logic analyses (Saleae clone)
homemade logic probe
homemade avr programer
MSP-FET
PCKIT3
and so on :D
Signal generators
homemade generator XR2206
homemade generator AD9850
homemade generator AD9951
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@Grigs: Very, very nice. You should be proud of yourself (and buy some ESD benchtop mats ;) ).
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Little workbench but I hope this year will be reconstructed :)
Oscilloscopes
OWON DS8202V
HAMEG HM203
TEKTRONIX 465B (not on picture)
FLUKE 123
FPGA4FUN PC scope
Multimeters
HP4378A
FLUKE 115
UNI-T UT10A (shit not on picture)
RANGE RE6810
Tesla DU20 nice piece of vintage analog
Counter homemade 1.3GHz
Spectrum analyzer HP8559A (not on picture)
Power Supply
2x Agilent 6632B
1x Tesla SZ.81 30V 1A
Homemade isolation transformer
Tesla Krizik RA10 10A variac
Other
homemade RLC checker
homemade GDO 500MHz
homemade GDO 200Mhz
homemade LC meter
homemade FET pairing expander for scope
homemade Logic analyses (Saleae clone)
homemade logic probe
homemade avr programer
MSP-FET
PCKIT3
and so on :D
Signal generators
homemade generator XR2206
homemade generator AD9850
homemade generator AD9951
Everything which starts with "homemade"..you made them yourself :wtf:? Damn, you should do product teardown of all those equipments then! :clap:
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homemade RLC checker
homemade GDO 500MHz
homemade GDO 200Mhz
homemade LC meter
homemade FET pairing expander for scope
homemade Logic analyses (Saleae clone)
homemade logic probe
homemade avr programer
Everything which starts with "homemade"..you made them yourself :wtf:? Damn, you should do product teardown of all those equipments then! :clap:
that's the former east-block from behind the iron curtain :D either you made it yourself or you didn't have it ;) the iron curtain went away, but the DIY skills developed back then are still around ;)
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That statement seems to be very true!
The calibration lab in my town just recently hired a Russian technician and the owner of the lab told me that this is by far the best technician he ever had. That guy also had built most of his test equipment himself during the times to the iron curtain.
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Here are some new pics of my workbench . There is some new stuff there . The next item will be a better oscilloscope . But I don t need to rush , my old Grundig GO 15Z cro is still working :)
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Hello WackyGerman,
What year was that Grundig scope built, if you know?
I vaguely remember to have used one of these in the early 80s?
So it must have been built in the late 70s?
It was kind of amazing, what the Grundig company was able to do in those days.
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I've lurked for about 6 months, first post. I got a lot of inspiration from this thread for my bench setup. I spent a Saturday and half a Sunday putting it together.
how deep is that bench? looks like it's more than 90 cm (~35 inches) also how high is the countertop/worktop? I'm currently unhappy with the desk arrangement I have, it's also just 75 cm high and I wonder if I should lift it a little and get an adjustable stool.
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Hello WackyGerman,
What year was that Grundig scope built, if you know?
I vaguely remember to have used one of these in the early 80s?
So it must have been built in the late 70s?
It was kind of amazing, what the Grundig company was able to do in those days.
Well I looked inside and most parts are built in 1978 , so it may be built roundabout 1978 or a few time later . Here are some pictures from the inside of the scope . I found it at a household clearance and nobody wanted it . The mains lead was cutted off so I only needed to replace it and clean the switches and pots with cleaner and turning round and round . Now it works fine and I saved it from the dumpster
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Here are some new pics of my workbench . There is some new stuff there . The next item will be a better oscilloscope . But I don t need to rush , my old Grundig GO 15Z cro is still working :)
On your first picture, the top shelf's right leg seems like at the edge of the table...
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Does anyone know of other sources of workbench photos?
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Does anyone know of other sources of workbench photos?
In use by individuals or by manufacturers (either empty or staged)?
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Does anyone know of other sources of workbench photos?
There's the old Google
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=electronics+workbench&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=e-XhVMGfCI6zaYzRgZgN&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1036&bih=596 (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=electronics+workbench&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=e-XhVMGfCI6zaYzRgZgN&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAg&biw=1036&bih=596)
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There's the old Google
Ha! You Brits! Classic. No really. By individuals. I know the ""Fatman and Circuit Girl" forum had a bunch. Is there more on reddit?
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Yes on both side there are L brackets screwed on the desktop for stability reasons . it is not very professional carpenter like i must confess but it is doing it s job
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There's the old Google
Ha! You Brits! Classic. No really. By individuals. I know the ""Fatman and Circuit Girl" forum had a bunch. Is there more on reddit?
...did he exhibit a Britishism of which I'm unaware, other than the .co.uk domain?
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Britishism ? Is that even a word ? :)
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that's the former east-block from behind the iron curtain :D either you made it yourself or you didn't have it ;) the iron curtain went away, but the DIY skills developed back then are still around ;)
Can only concur :)
Now I am living in France and if you can't buy it in the store it doesn't exist and is not possible to do :( Most people don't have a clue which end of a screwdriver to grab (we don't do that with a soldering iron - that would cause mass casualties).
So I am the oddball in the office that has a workshop at home and that everyone goes to whenever something custom needs to be hacked together for the newest demo :-p
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The first image is my portable lab in the kitchen a few years ago when I was working on my Geiger counter. As you can see in the image I am a very tidy engineer.
The next image my portable lab in my old bedroom working on my VFD clock when mum got pissed at it being in the kitchen, also with some newer test equipment like the Nixie frequency counter. =-)
The last image is my current desk setup in my bedroom. This one is for quick mod and repair work rather than full development, to bench multimeter's are used for quick measurements. A Fluke 25 and Metrix MX54B are my go to run around meters. Nice clicky DELL keyboard used, none of that rubber membrane crap. Linux box lives under the desk linked to the monitor that is off. The dual monitors are linked to the Win 7 box. Nixie clock because the Windows clock is rubbish and Nixie's are the best. =-)
Shelving is mostly tools, Micro-Professor because vintage computer rule. Beck PSU one of three owned bolted to the desk. Nixie calculator because once again Nixie's rule.
That's fokes.
Some of my test gear for sail to if any of you are interested:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161602717491?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161602717491?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161602742313?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161602742313?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161602760051?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161602760051?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
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Third Image, can someone please kill this file size cap, pain in the ass.
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Third Image, can someone please kill this file size cap, pain in the ass.
For those of us with slower Internet connections than you, the size cap is not what's a pain in the ass.
That image is bloody huge. Take it down to like a quarter of the file size or less...
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Third Image, can someone please kill this file size cap, pain in the ass.
For those of us with slower Internet connections than you, the size cap is not what's a pain in the ass.
That image is bloody huge. Take it down to like a quarter of the file size or less...
Editing images is not fun, it would be better if the server did the image compression. That way everyone's happy, unless the server can't take any more load, then it's time to upgrade the server.
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convert fuckoffbigimage.jpg -resize 25% muchnicer.jpg
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how easy and fun that is :box:
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convert fuckoffbigimage.jpg -resize 25% muchnicer.jpg
I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of how easy and fun that is :box:
:-DD I'm just really lazy when it comes to image editing. :-+
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I see that you have a Micro-Professor. I have one too. I'm still thinking that they're pretty rare.
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I see that you have a Micro-Professor. I have one too. I'm still thinking that they're pretty rare.
They are and also they are quite valuable on eBay. Although mine is not for sail, it is for enjoying it's retro goodness and playing with.
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Third Image, can someone please kill this file size cap, pain in the ass.
Hmmm, that's an awfully familiar bear on the wall.
Any story how it got there, if it's not a secret?
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Third Image, can someone please kill this file size cap, pain in the ass.
Hmmm, that's an awfully familiar bear on the wall.
Any story how it got there, if it's not a secret?
Yeah, the good old Mishka... It's a poster from the "Museum of Communism" in Praha, Czech Republic :)
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Third Image, can someone please kill this file size cap, pain in the ass.
Hmmm, that's an awfully familiar bear on the wall.
Any story how it got there, if it's not a secret?
It is from the Museum Of Communism in Prague.
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@Eprom9
Nice lab, is that a DELL AT101W?
if so, we are keyboard buddies.
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Third Image, can someone please kill this file size cap, pain in the ass.
I see you have a Thurlby 1905 bench meter there. Here's a trick I discovered in case you didn't know: Press [**] then [5.5] to get 6.5 digit mode. Not especially practical but fun to look at (kind of like nixie tubes).
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Here are updated pictures from the beginning (2013 March) to now.
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Pretty much in a constant state of "wreck"...
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@Eprom9
Nice lab, is that a DELL AT101W?
if so, we are keyboard buddies.
Pretty much =-)
AT102W
Got a KVM converting it to USB and also connecting my Linux box. Nothing beats a nice keyboard.
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Pretty much in a constant state of "wreck"...
Every good workspace needs at least one strat.
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Pretty much in a constant state of "wreck"...
I think you need to wipe the finger oils off of your phone's camera lens. And framing horizontally would help too.
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Pretty much in a constant state of "wreck"...
I think you need to wipe the finger oils off of your phone's camera lens. And framing horizontally would help too.
Lens cover is broken, and I don't feel like getting out swab. I did try framing horizontally, though, and it didn't work. It's still a mess.
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Pretty much in a constant state of "wreck"...
You sure you are not in London? because the fog doesn't let me see your gear ;)
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Okay, okay...I give.
Here's the view into my work area:
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/jcoloccia/20150226_073257_resized_zpsnjwnbqip.jpg)
I'm just working on my old drafting table...for years, now. I've never gotten around to building or buying a proper electronics bench. It's not even like I couldn't just build a very nice one in a weekend if I wanted to, but as the old saying goes, the cobbler's children have no shoes. One day it will irritate me enough to do something about it.
View from the captain's chair...this is mostly where I build things. Extech meter to the left is, more or less, a piece of junk. The continuity test sounds like an old lady playing the violin. I'm pretty sure the auto-ranging is done via postal correspondence...it's ridiculously slow. Makes me really appreciate my Fluke. Drawers are filled with parts for my various products.
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/jcoloccia/20150226_073608_resized_zpsaegjn2x6.jpg)
And this is mostly where I take things apart. A proper desolder station is essential, IMHO. Cheap, puke green table piece of crap from Ikea. My wife bought it for some reason. I was going to throw it out, but it fits just right. Friends don't let friends shop for furniture at Ikea. Stick to the herring.
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/jcoloccia/20150226_073634_resized_zpsgodalidu.jpg)
Ah...the prototype bench. LOL There are a couple of prototypes in there somewhere. Bins are packed with resistors and capacitors. Off to the left you'll also see the two hard drives that are supposed to be my offsite backup. I know, I know....I'm getting to it.
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/jcoloccia/20150226_073714_resized_zpsbgtb09hu.jpg)
Just some old test equipment... :=\
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/jcoloccia/20150226_073739_resized_zpsisryotnw.jpg)
And some more old test equipment. ;D
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/jcoloccia/20150226_073801_resized_zpslg2eimbx.jpg)
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Nice electric guitars, John.
My work area currently, I got a new adjustable power supply I tweaked a little bit and new storage boxes for mostly salvaged components.
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Hello, here are some pictures of my bench and equipment that i have.
(http://i.imgur.com/16aOfZN.jpg)
On the bench i have:
- Wavetek Meterman 23XT multimeter (+ UT136b on the way, hopefully I will get it in the next few days)
- homemade soldering station
- homemade prototyping board (breadboard + arduino + laptop battery + sd card module + ethernet module + lcd)
- homemade transistor/component tester
Some projects I'm working on:
- dummy load
- variable power supply
- solder fume extractor
I would love to get an oscilloscope, but I don't have the money right now (I'm a student).
(http://i.imgur.com/QUCHWsl.jpg)
Here are some of my small components: IC's, IC sockets, resistor, capacitors, diodes, LED's, transistors etc.
For now I keep most of my small components in a shoe box modified to hold zip lock bags.
I have some other tools / components / PCB chemicals in some drawers & boxes.
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^^^ Not a bad beginners setup, Im intrigued on the homemade soldering station.
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Thank you. The soldering station I made about 2 years ago after a design that I found based on an Atmega8 controlling a MOSFET. The microcontroller is comparing the set temperature with the reading from the thermocouple in the tip.
The control circuit is powered by a small transformer (+rectifier + 5V regulator) and the heater from a 16V laptop power supply + step-up to 24V (it is a 24V 48W PENSOL-IRON-N soldering iron). Until today the soldering iron was powered from a 24V toroidal transformer that I plan to use for the variable power supply.
For SMD drag soldering, which tip would be best ? (I'm thinking SR-625)
http://www.tme.eu/en/katalog/?search=related:PENSOL-IRON-N&used_params=1557%3A9448%3B (http://www.tme.eu/en/katalog/?search=related:PENSOL-IRON-N&used_params=1557%3A9448%3B)
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I will go with your choice, bigger is always more helpful.
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Hi folks,
I apologize for what you are about to see... but if there is a category for messiest turd pile of electronics gear this would be it. I promise I'll clean it up as soon as I have a moment. ::)
Oh and I built that bench as well from free scrap shelving at Home Depot plus discarded Ikea furniture and lumber yard scrap wood, and a fluorescent tube lamp I had laying around. One day I will make proper drawers and parts bins and organize everything, I promise! ;)
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I apologize for what you are about to see... but if there is a category for messiest turd pile of electronics gear this would be it. I promise I'll clean it up as soon as I have a moment. ::)
Messy? That's a little cluttered, not messy. ;)
You want to see messy, take a look at the How messy is your desk? (http://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=28&doc_id=1285208) article from EE Times (first two photos are of Bob Pease and Jim Williams' desks respectively). >:D Check out the user-submissions from others as well.
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Hello, here are some pictures of my bench and equipment that i have.
(http://i.imgur.com/16aOfZN.jpg)
Do I see an ice cube tray? I use to use those in the garage for holding bolts and such.
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Hi folks,
I apologize for what you are about to see... but if there is a category for messiest turd pile of electronics gear this would be it. I promise I'll clean it up as soon as I have a moment. ::)
Thats not messy, trust me. You dont want to see before and after pictures of my humble electronics corner.. When i started my long cleanup operation, i had no work room left... I can see your desk still has plenty of space to build something...
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I need to upgrade, but for now this is it: Crappy little desk lol.
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-2733-dsc_6598_01.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/other/random/dsc_6598_01.jpg)
With all that stuff there, it almost looks like I know what I'm doing. :-DD
I have plans to build a new computer desk though which will be half work bench and half computer area and be 4x that size. Eventually when I finish/insulate/seal/heat my garage I'll have even more room. I'm still getting my feet with in electronics though so not yet sure how far I'll go as far I'll get into it. Already invested in a scope so at this point may as well go all the way.
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I'm still getting my feet with in electronics though so not yet sure how far I'll go as far I'll get into it. Already invested in a scope so at this point may as well go all the way.
It seems you've officially become an electronics addict like the rest of us. :palm:
And do be careful with the bolded part of your last statement. Not only does it have the ability to piss off SWMBO, it's rather expensive as well (more specialized gear, more parts, .... more, more, more). So you might want to rethink going down every possible tunnel in the rabbit hole. ;) :-DD
Best solution however, is to simply turn back now if at all possible! :o ;D
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So you might want to rethink going down every possible tunnel in the rabbit hole. ;) :-DD
Best solution however, is to simply turn back now if at all possible! :o ;D
Totally agree! :-+ :-+ :-DD
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I'm still getting my feet with in electronics though so not yet sure how far I'll go as far I'll get into it. Already invested in a scope so at this point may as well go all the way.
It seems you've officially become an electronics addict like the rest of us. :palm:
And do be careful with the bolded part of your last statement. Not only does it have the ability to piss off SWMBO, it's rather expensive as well (more specialized gear, more parts, .... more, more, more). So you might want to rethink going down every possible tunnel in the rabbit hole. ;) :-DD
Best solution however, is to simply turn back now if at all possible! :o ;D
It might be too late, I already have a Hakko soldering station on the way. I needed a new tip for my Radio Shack fire stick but could not find any. End up buying a whole new temperature controlled soldering station instead. :-DD
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Just follow the basic rule. Ask your partner/mother/best friend if you really need it. You will end up buying it anyways but the guilt and nagging will make you think twice next time.
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I'm single, that's even more dangerous because I have nobody to tell me no. >:D
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Just follow the basic rule. Ask your partner/mother/best friend if you really need it. You will end up buying it anyways but the guilt and nagging will make you think twice next time.
That only works if you've the right (or maybe wrong) type of partner/mother/best friend. My partner is much, much better off than me so trying to get her not to put her hand in her pocket for my toys/tools is hard work, my best mate is a (rather good) mechanic so doesn't see a problem with spending money on tools, and my mother is of the view that if it makes me happy f*%k worrying and buy it.
I'm single, that's even more dangerous because I have nobody to tell me no. >:D
I'd say the best bet would be to check your current account balance. If you have to cut back on anything else for the month or have to go into your "rainy day" savings you can't afford it so don't get it...
...this month...
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It's always fun to share pictures of a test bench. I call mine simple & functional. I work on a lot of different equipment ranging in frequency from DC to 1 GHz plus. Attached are a couple of pictures of the test bench.
Here is the list of all the equipment, that I think is necessary to troubleshoot and repair just about anything!
Left side of bench, first picture.
HP-8568A Spectrum Analyzer, on top is an HP-8447D Amplifier and along side of that an HP-355D 120 DB Attenuator.
Next are two Tektronix Scopes. On top TEK-2445B Analog, bottom TEK-2440 Digital
Next to them is my Primary Frequency Standard, a Trimble 10MHz feeding a 6 output Video Amp for distribution of the 10 MHz signals to equipment. On the very top is a laptop running Lady Heather to display the functions of the Trimble. On the right side you can see there are 8 satellites locked in unison.
On the right side of the bench, 2nd picture, first is an HP-6227B Dual Power Supply.
Next to that on top is an HP-3406A RF wide band voltmeter. Under that is an HP-3314A Function Generator.
Next on top of the pile is an HP-3466A Multimeter. Under that is an HP-5335A Frequency Counter - 1300MHz
On the bottom is an HP-8567A Signal Generator - 1040MHz
All of the equipment is calibrated to factory standards. The Spectrum Analyzer, Frequency Counter, and Signal Generator are all being driven by my 10MHz Trimble Satellite Primary Standard.
I have a wide selection of outdoor tower mounted antennas and long wires that I feed into the Spectrum analyzer for off air frequency measurements. It also has a nice wide band audio amplifier, setting on top in the back, that allows me to listen to any frequency and any type of modulation. And when you punch in the center frequency like on 15MHz WWV you are able to measure it to +- 1 Hz accuracy. It is really neat to put the signal generator carrier on 15MHz and have it zero beat for hours, without any change.
I can feed audio from the Spectrum Analyzer to a computer running Spectrum Laboratory. Makes a very nice off the air way to measure frequencies extremely close.
There you have my modest test equipment setup, that will do just about anything that I want to do. Happy to answer any questions you may have about any of the equipment. Almost all of it was purchased on eBay, repaired,re-calibrated and put into service on my test bench.
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That is rather orderly. The one thing I wish I could find is the plastic window for the led display. Mine does not exist.
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Cleaned up the bench today and decided to take a pic. It's always evolving.
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/econfly/P1000466_zpsjsui0vtv.jpg)
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Cleaned up the bench today and decided to take a pic. It's always evolving.
Awesome test gear!
I just snapped an actual working photo of my bench. Hand assembling a new PCB design. it has about 200 components with about 60 unique part numbers. It is very hard to keep everything organized.
On top of the bench, I keep the soldering base station, hot air system, pneumatic paste dispenser, chemicals, probes, etc. The monitors keep references up and visible while I am using the microscope.
(https://solidcamera.box.com/shared/static/rpxm8hnblyby5vs5rltxsmca42j307bw.jpg)
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Now posting this in the right area ...
Mine's changed since I last posted pics. Got a few DMMs off Ebay you can see on the second shelf. The workbench is something they sell from Harbor Freight. It's pretty nice and a pretty good deal
On the first shelf presently fixing a GW Instek GFG-8216A. Was listed as "for parts or not working. The frequency pot had been knocked hard by something and was cracked. Got the part on order now. It's mainly good as new and working OK.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w3tG6bvcKgo/VRcj_cAXuoI/AAAAAAAACIs/Zp99jUK1PMQ/w576-h768-no/IMG_0762.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-6PFQieBx85g/VRcj_2YiSpI/AAAAAAAACI0/fcQGVEFumds/w1024-h768-no/IMG_0763.png)
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Cleaned up the bench today and decided to take a pic. It's always evolving.
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/econfly/P1000466_zpsjsui0vtv.jpg)
Small work area - but nice clean set up. I like!
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Cleaned up the bench today and decided to take a pic. It's always evolving.
(http://i1008.photobucket.com/albums/af210/econfly/P1000466_zpsjsui0vtv.jpg)
Small work area - but nice clean set up. I like!
Woah. Those Keithleys alone are worth more than the entire rest of my setup! and I have a pretty big well equipped bench. Also those Agilents look good too. :clap:
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The tiny workspace I have was getting really messy fast and often, so I cleared a few analogue pieces I wasn't really using. To be honest, I don't think it's made all that much difference...
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The tiny workspace I have was getting really messy fast and often, so I cleared a few analogue pieces I wasn't really using. To be honest, I don't think it's made all that much difference...
You could benefit from a cheap shelf/riser. 3 pieces of wood is all it takes. :)
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The tiny workspace I have was getting really messy fast and often, so I cleared a few analogue pieces I wasn't really using. To be honest, I don't think it's made all that much difference...
You could benefit from a cheap shelf/riser. 3 pieces of wood is all it takes. :)
I have thought about this, but behind the closed curtains on the windowsill are a load of regularly used tools, which a riser would block acces to...
The rest of the room is filled with component cabinets, there's literally no space anywhere... I need Dave's lab!
I've had another reshuffle; better, but still not brilliant...
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Is there any way for you to move the storage containers off the bench (if they are there permanently), I found moving my parts storage off my tiny 120x50cm bench/school desk/bedside table very helpful, allowing me space for an analogue scope, laptop, small PSU, multimeter and laptop, with some space for working. Also, I would recommend moving the big (deep) PSU to the end, where it is less intrusive to your work area. These are just ideas, and I suggest constantly changing the setup for the task at hand, as it takes five minutes, but improves productivity tenfold. Just a thought.
EDIT: sorry, didn't see the posts after your OP, maybe try moving the small test gear (multimeters etc) to the side so you have a central workspace? Anyway, don't sweat it, your working space is 5 times more than mine! I'm curious, what do you (and others) do about test, USB leads and cables?
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Just starting out, built a little desk(already needs to be bigger)for a couple bucks, 2x4 and plywood. The iron was given too me, as was the computer. I was going to recap a PC that had bad caps, but after replacement still didn't work so I throw the HDD in the other PC, sweet, the guy was trying to get me to take a lot of stuff, i guess its cheaper for people to take it than it is to haul it off to the dump. Still use my RS learning lab for breadboarding, until I can get a good PS.....Am about to add (order) the DS1052E to the desk. I screwed in a eye hook on the side to hang the mouse and keyboard so it won't take up space, and just set it on top when I need it. Have my color organ set up for a little light show while music plays, and yes, Thats the extech 330.....I buy what dave recommends....Im thinking of making a backing for it, 2x4 going up the back side and across the top to hang a over head light and some hooks to hang stuff on....eh, but I don't think its too bad for about 220$ all in all.
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I'd post mine but it looks like Jim Williams' and the camera is under all the crap :)
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Just post it! Much more interesting to see habits and tools than an empty ikea shelf :o.
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Just post it! Much more interesting to see habits and tools than an empty ikea shelf :o.
Will do tomorrow - stuck at in-laws today. At least I've got the laptop and LTSpice to keep me amused :)
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I love this thread.
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Another day, another Keithley 2001 under repair...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/P3Z4N8LoPw5Uahw3A_EBC1kf_pVwHslOfRBxhewsHsY=w302-h202-p-no) (https://plus.google.com/photos/112152417280555753327/albums/6136407588818222817/6136407590435647778?gclid=CjwKEAjwjKOpBRChjsTyicbFy3QSJADP1gTNDBvgzpDEOXe09uo19_SuzglOhJmlbpGjDbwSGY2KwxoCPKrw_wcB&pid=6136407590435647778&oid=112152417280555753327)
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The workbench is something they sell from Harbor Freight. It's pretty nice and a pretty good deal
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-w3tG6bvcKgo/VRcj_cAXuoI/AAAAAAAACIs/Zp99jUK1PMQ/w576-h768-no/IMG_0762.png)
That shelf under the desk would block your legs. It looks like the worst ergonomics ever. I would do my back in reaching.
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@TiN, I like that desk! You still have some room to expand up! :-+
I have also used those grabbers (like the ones from logic kits) for 'investigation' , I like the fact they hang on like crazy and are small enough to catch onto fine pitch IC legs. 8)
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That shelf under the desk would block your legs.
Uh, no, it doesn't block my legs.
It looks like the worst ergonomics ever. I would do my back in reaching.
Well looks can be deceiving can't they?
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It's all messed up and jammed. Will build proper system table somewhen next months.
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Another day, another Keithley 2001 under repair...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/P3Z4N8LoPw5Uahw3A_EBC1kf_pVwHslOfRBxhewsHsY=w302-h202-p-no) (https://plus.google.com/photos/112152417280555753327/albums/6136407588818222817/6136407590435647778?gclid=CjwKEAjwjKOpBRChjsTyicbFy3QSJADP1gTNDBvgzpDEOXe09uo19_SuzglOhJmlbpGjDbwSGY2KwxoCPKrw_wcB&pid=6136407590435647778&oid=112152417280555753327)
That's some cool test gear.
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Another day, another Keithley 2001 under repair...
An excellent set of close up photos, thanks for posting :-+
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Uh, no, it doesn't block my legs.
Do your legs backwards? :) Cause - there's no way to sit at that desk with out being hunched over.
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Do your legs backwards? :) Cause - there's no way to sit at that desk with out being hunched over.
Oh for crying out loud ... Don't worry about me find your own desk. :-//
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Do your legs backwards? :) Cause - there's no way to sit at that desk with out being hunched over.
Oh for crying out loud ... Don't worry about me find your own desk. :-//
Enquiring minds want to knowTM :)
It's actually a woodworking bench - you can see some of the dog holes drilled into the top. I'd guess the height means you would normally use it standing or perched on a stool, so you don't need a lot of knee room underneath.
It's a good looking bench for the money - shame you can't get them in the UK.
I like the tool rack - looks like a neat storage solution for cutters and pliers.
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Do your legs backwards? :) Cause - there's no way to sit at that desk with out being hunched over.
Oh for crying out loud ... Don't worry about me find your own desk. :-//
Enquiring minds want to knowTM :)
It's actually a woodworking bench - you can see some of the dog holes drilled into the top. I'd guess the height means you would normally use it standing or perched on a stool, so you don't need a lot of knee room underneath.
It's a good looking bench for the money - shame you can't get them in the UK.
I like the tool rack - looks like a neat storage solution for cutters and pliers.
A guy round the corner from me in the UK has one like that. He does picture framing in his garage. I asked him where he got it from and he said he made it so you might be right there :(
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It's actually a woodworking bench - you can see some of the dog holes drilled into the top. I'd guess the height means you would normally use it standing or perched on a stool, so you don't need a lot of knee room underneath.
Exactly - it's a woodworking bench that Harbor Freight sells, and it's surprisingly high quality - it ain't made out of particle board it's quality hardwood. I actually use one of the top holes for my bench light now because its way stronger than the cheap plastic holder/clamp that come with the lights. The four drawers underneath are the best, there's so much in there it would be hard to make it more convenient any other way. There's also a nice clamp / vise built-into the side but most of that is stored away because I don't need to clamp test equipment in the jaws of a vise ;)
The tool holder was sold by Micro Mark, but I've modified that to suit my own needs. It suits my needs just fine for now. Maybe I'll outgrow it in the future but to each his own, get what suits your needs and body, that's all that needs to be said.
Matter of fact I just upgraded it the bench yesterday by adding a 12 outlet strip because I'm running out of outlets.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4zq_EVzIFcA/VSpmHtINxSI/AAAAAAAACTI/1YWei3BJllA/w1024-h768-no/IMG_0804.png)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hx8sGAv8Ex0/VSpmGxYZGLI/AAAAAAAACS8/zZ6vMBQBYZE/w1024-h768-no/IMG_0805.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gP3LqyXQwW4/VSpmH81UmnI/AAAAAAAACTQ/ACG6lFuKUWE/w1024-h768-no/IMG_0806.png)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CMWgKyczOMU/VSpmIf3uDPI/AAAAAAAACTU/LIOQEi-GkJM/w1024-h768-no/IMG_0807.png)
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That's nice.
Starting to think I live in the wrong country :)
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Home lab of Barrie Gilbert (Gilbert Cell):
http://io9.com/5862419/this-might-be-the-coolest-home-lab-youve-ever-seen/ (http://io9.com/5862419/this-might-be-the-coolest-home-lab-youve-ever-seen/)
Home lab of Paul Rako (EDN editor, now retired and moved):
http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/designing-ideas/4311838/The-home-lab-of-Paul-Rako (http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/designing-ideas/4311838/The-home-lab-of-Paul-Rako)
Home Lab of Bo Lojek (professor at Colorado Uni):
http://blog.atmel.com/2013/11/08/the-home-lab-of-bo-lojek/ (http://blog.atmel.com/2013/11/08/the-home-lab-of-bo-lojek/)
"It does not disturb me that Lojek has a stack of early Tektronix mainframe scopes. What bothers me is I have several friends that have the same sort of stack."
Bernice
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Even when I look at the workrooms of those old professionals I'm left wondering how those guys coped with having so little remaining bench space for any actual project work.
There seems to be a common theme for home workrooms (labs?) where everybody loads up their work area with loads of exotic test gear and leaves just a 30cm wide strip (or less!) on the bench for any work.
All the shelves are 'full' and there is little room left for the most important thing in the room to function efficiently. The operator!
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The more room on your bench for projects ...
...The more projects you will start....
.......and the more time it will take before you ever finish one....
The mess is a productivity enhancer in that it make you focus on one project at a time since there isn't any room for anything else :)
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Got an idea browsing Ebay for lighting. I ran across these car running lights. Of course they run off 12V so I ordered a pair just to see what they looked like. I'm pretty pleased with the results.
I used an old 12V brick and they pull about an amp. They are SUPER bright and really thin. I mounted them under the wire shelving (haven't finalized the way way they will be mounted though) and when they are off you can't even tell any lights are up there. When on they provide a lot of light and yet because they are so thin they don't glare into your eyes because they are blocked forward by the front shelf wire. So you have lots of light with essentially no footprint at all.
There are the ones -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291161780706?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/291161780706?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-MsC3DsXE4GM/VS0VtXNjj0I/AAAAAAAACUE/_qxziF31T5A/w1024-h768-no/IMG_0809.png)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Bivqkk7zY9E/VS0U1nUTJHI/AAAAAAAACT0/78niYNVuMDo/w1024-h768-no/IMG_0810.png)
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it's getting really easy to get enough light nowadays. this is a trend that I can get behind.
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LOL. Since I moved to a different apartment, I don't have any room for a table for my electronics equipment. My workbench is a floor, now.
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Incentive to make designs and packaging smaller ?
Packed bench tops are very common among design folks, IMO really a reflection of their personality and work habits. Many years ago, a friend who worked in a Cal-Lab dealing with larger sized test gear had clean and large work spaces on their bench tops out of necessity. That kind of work is very different than building circuits from scratch using various construction techniques. My own lab bench space is equally small with a pile-O-parts and bits & soldering devices to one side and all the test gear on the other. Turns out, this is the most ergonomically efficient bench top configuration. The pile-O-parts becomes easy access inventory of commonly needed bits, with the test gear at the opposite end. If one lives with what appears to be a mess on a daily basis, the location of where the need bits are is not a problem.
IMO, winner for pile-O-stuff goes to Bob Pease.
Bernice
Even when I look at the workrooms of those old professionals I'm left wondering how those guys coped with having so little remaining bench space for any actual project work.
There seems to be a common theme for home workrooms (labs?) where everybody loads up their work area with loads of exotic test gear and leaves just a 30cm wide strip (or less!) on the bench for any work.
All the shelves are 'full' and there is little room left for the most important thing in the room to function efficiently. The operator!
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Packed bench tops are very common among design folks, IMO really a reflection of their personality and work habits.
I agree but it's a poor way to work because frustration is never far away if you need to introduce something into the work area and there's nowhere to put it.
At my place of work we briefly 'got it right' a few years ago where engineers were encouraged to only use what test gear they needed for a particular task. Obviously some types of test gear remained on the bench full time but stuff like parts and most tools were not stored on the benck or the shelves. The work area and potential space should be 'owned' by the designer and the stuff being worked on and not the test gear and parts and tools.
Sadly, the bean counters and health and safety people went too far in recent times and lots of things were banned from workbenches. They got too heavily into '5S' making it very impractical to do creative stuff because the beancounters wanted the labs to look like something from a catalogue in order to impress important visitors.
Basically, what I am suggesting is that if you leave engineers to their own devices they will end up working in a cramped and frustrating and stifled work area. Apply the basics of 5S and you can really make a positive difference. But overdo the 5S principles and it quickly becomes very bad.
For years I used to do the same as everyone on here. I'd plan my work bench to try and accommodate all my test gear and parts and tools leaving sod all space for me or the projects or for any flexibility. But I found out a number of years ago that there's a better way to work than this.
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Got an idea browsing Ebay for lighting. I ran across these car running lights. Of course they run off 12V so I ordered a pair just to see what they looked like. I'm pretty pleased with the results.... they don't glare into your eyes because they are blocked forward by the front shelf wire. So you have lots of light with essentially no footprint at all.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291161780706?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/291161780706?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Nice tip. I just did the 4 clicks to get them delivered.
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Bench work habits are often developed early on in the learning process with the first bench set up. Over the course of time, projects worked on, problems developed by the bench set up and problems solved these conventions become habit and ways of working. For me, the bench has a number of basic bits of test gear and other test gear that is required get's wheeled in as required. Having related test gear and other stuff on wheeled carts goes a ways to reducing bench top clutter and allows speciality bits to be used as required. Exceptions to this would be BIG test systems that required a dedicated space to support them. Beyond test gear there are always tools, parts and all the bits required to make it all go. These days, it often involves a microscope too.
Working for small companies limits the interference from bean counters and industrial safety bureaucrats who believe they could and should impose their ideology on all they can which tends to affect designer's work areas and widgets designed.
As for stacking test gear. hewlett packard test gear from the Bill & Dave era had feet and enclosure extrusions that were specifically designed to be stacked and piled on top of each other. The enclosure dimensions were fractional to allow good space utilization of available space by stacking to placing test gear side by side. This tradition of logical-rational packaging is mostly gone and forgotten. The fashion stylist have replaced good and proper ergonomic design with injection moulded wonder blobs of plastic... which becomes another dis-incentive to purchase unless there is no other choice.
Bernice
At my place of work we briefly 'got it right' a few years ago where engineers were encouraged to only use what test gear they needed for a particular task. Obviously some types of test gear remained on the bench full time but stuff like parts and most tools were not stored on the benck or the shelves. The work area and potential space should be 'owned' by the designer and the stuff being worked on and not the test gear and parts and tools.
Sadly, the bean counters and health and safety people went too far in recent times and lots of things were banned from workbenches. They got too heavily into '5S' making it very impractical to do creative stuff because the beancounters wanted the labs to look like something from a catalogue in order to impress important visitors.
Basically, what I am suggesting is that if you leave engineers to their own devices they will end up working in a cramped and frustrating and stifled work area. Apply the basics of 5S and you can really make a positive difference. But overdo the 5S principles and it quickly becomes very bad.
For years I used to do the same as everyone on here. I'd plan my work bench to try and accommodate all my test gear and parts and tools leaving sod all space for me or the projects or for any flexibility. But I found out a number of years ago that there's a better way to work than this.
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Hi Everyone!
Long time lurker but finally got my lab to a point where I think I can post. I'm a recent-grad so it's still ramping up, but the images are below. A lot of it was motivated by posts I saw here and picking and choosing which I liked best. I also have a disadvantage of renting so I cant do any on-wall shelving like I want :(. Just got the scope/PSU/etc from an auction :) :-DMM Scored pretty hard. Anyone have any advice on what else I should try to get my hands on? Just ordered a DMMCheck to calibrate everything.
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Hi Everyone!
Good pics. I see you got a Tek CMC251 - I got one the other day from Ebay. Glad to see you posted.
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Anyone have any advice on what else I should try to get my hands on?
You look well enough set that anything else you seek out should probably be guided by you thinking "this would be so much easier if I had an <insert thing>," lest you fall prey to Gear Acquisition Syndrome ;)
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lest you fall prey to Gear Acquisition Syndrome ;)
I already am falling for it! I cant get myself off Ebay or Craigslist to find more tools. I have a whole bunch more (less impressive) tools in my closet. I can always find a project to justify the purchase...even if I don't go through with the project :palm:
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I already am falling for it! I cant get myself off Ebay or Craigslist to find more tools. I have a whole bunch more (less impressive) tools in my closet. I can always find a project to justify the purchase...even if I don't go through with the project :palm:
Man, you are going to fit right in here. :clap:
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Got an idea browsing Ebay for lighting. I ran across these car running lights. Of course they run off 12V so I ordered a pair just to see what they looked like. I'm pretty pleased with the results.
I used an old 12V brick and they pull about an amp. They are SUPER bright and really thin. I mounted them under the wire shelving (haven't finalized the way way they will be mounted though) and when they are off you can't even tell any lights are up there. When on they provide a lot of light and yet because they are so thin they don't glare into your eyes because they are blocked forward by the front shelf wire. So you have lots of light with essentially no footprint at all.
There are the ones -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291161780706?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/291161780706?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
I just received four ^-^
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I just received four ^-^
PICS AFTER INSTALL. :-/O
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I wonder if they get dimmer over time like most cheap Chinese leds.
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I just received four ^-^
PICS AFTER INSTALL. :-/O
It'll be a little while - just realized the transformer I'm using to drive the current LEDs would be overloaded by about 100% with these, so I've got to cobble together a new power supply.
I wonder if they get dimmer over time like most cheap Chinese leds.
Hmm. I wonder if that is more prone to happening if they're driven harder. These are marketed for automotive use, where the voltage is in the upper 13s, but I'll probably be running them at 12V. The difference in heat output is not insignificant between those voltages.
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Hmm. I wonder if that is more prone to happening if they're driven harder. These are marketed for automotive use, where the voltage is in the upper 13s, but I'll probably be running them at 12V. The difference in heat output is not insignificant between those voltages.
Yea, I'm using 12V and I did go up to 13.8, and as expected they get hotter and brighter at 13.8. 12V is plenty bright for my use.
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My workspace:
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My workspace:
Oh man! I see all sorts of fun stuff there! :clap:
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I just received four ^-^
PICS AFTER INSTALL. :-/O
It'll be a little while - just realized the transformer I'm using to drive the current LEDs would be overloaded by about 100% with these, so I've got to cobble together a new power supply.
Cobbled together for sure! I present to you the Best Buck Converter Ever:
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I've been working this whole weekend on my little corner in the basement, made the table and all the stuff around it. :phew:
I thought about putting shelves on the wall but apparently the wall itself is made antirely of cement and rocks, which makes drilling through it impossible. |O
(http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t545/VERYlowbudgetRC/Mobile%20Uploads/5ed5d85b-decf-4884-82a3-eecf5a1db668_zpsjw6idaxb.jpg) (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/VERYlowbudgetRC/media/Mobile%20Uploads/5ed5d85b-decf-4884-82a3-eecf5a1db668_zpsjw6idaxb.jpg.html)
The light looks bright but it's just a 15W tube.
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I thought about putting shelves on the wall but apparently the wall itself is made antirely of cement and rocks, which makes drilling through it impossible. |O
Why can't you use a masonry bit and install the brackets with some sort of metal expansion anchor (http://www.concretefasteners.com/diy-articles/expansion-anchors)? :-//
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Concrete means go borrow a SDS drill and make the holes for steel rod ( 12mm diameter) and put floating shelves up.
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I've been working this whole weekend on my little corner in the basement, made the table and all the stuff around it. :phew:
I thought about putting shelves on the wall but apparently the wall itself is made antirely of cement and rocks, which makes drilling through it impossible.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/LargeDrill.jpg)
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Yeah, i have one of those hammer drill things ( forgot how it's called in english ) mine's 1200W i just need to find where my brother put it.
I tried to do it with a standard concrete drill but it won't go any further than 1 cm.
Now i need to save up some more money for the angles and screws and such ( being a 10th grader budget is quite low ).
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Yeah, i have one of those hammer drill things ( forgot how it's called in english ) mine's 1200W i just need to find where my brother put it.
I tried to do it with a standard concrete drill but it won't go any further than 1 cm.
Now i need to save up some more money for the angles and screws and such ( being a 10th grader budget is quite low ).
They are called hammer drills in English. ;)
As per the depth, did you hit reinforcing steel by chance?
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The SDS drill illustrated above will go through steel reinforcing, rock and such quite easily. solid granite boulders however do take some time to drill through, you are drilling through some of the hardest rock on earth.
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The SDS drill illustrated above will go through steel reinforcing, rock and such quite easily. solid granite boulders however do take some time to drill through, you are drilling through some of the hardest rock on earth.
I read Refrigerator's post as only a standard drill has been used thus far, not a hammer drill.
As per the material, I wasn't thinking of granite (or large stones of any kind at all) based on appearance of mortar/concrete in photo (looks like it was poured into form mold made of planks, so thinking it's early post-war concrete construction).
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A hammer drill with the right bit will drill a hole in solid granite suitable for a typical small expansion bolt quite quickly. Rock climbers do this all the time.
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The SDS drill illustrated above will go through steel reinforcing, rock and such quite easily. solid granite boulders however do take some time to drill through, you are drilling through some of the hardest rock on earth.
what kind of hammer drill and drill bit are you using to go through the reinforcing steel ? 10-15+ mm reinforcing bars are pretty common here and hitting one means a lot of swearing and choosing a different place for the hole :D
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The SDS drill illustrated above will go through steel reinforcing, rock and such quite easily. solid granite boulders however do take some time to drill through, you are drilling through some of the hardest rock on earth.
what kind of hammer drill and drill bit are you using to go through the reinforcing steel ? 10-15+ mm reinforcing bars are pretty common here and hitting one means a lot of swearing and choosing a different place for the hole :D
Nope, no reinforcing steel here, when i have time i'll go find my hammer drill and put holes in that wall. :-+
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I've been working this whole weekend on my little corner in the basement, made the table and all the stuff around it. :phew:
I thought about putting shelves on the wall but apparently the wall itself is made antirely of cement and rocks, which makes drilling through it impossible.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/LargeDrill.jpg)
Hey X, must be nice having one of those. Many years ago as a teenager into CB radio, my parents let me have a station at home. The radio was in the finished basement of an almost 100 year old house with a fairly thick stone foundation and to get the coax inside, my dearly departed father handed me a hammer and a cold chisel and said have at it. Since the tip of the chisel was a cross point, he said to make sure I rotated it every couple of strikes. What I would have given to have a Bosch like that.
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I have used a star chisel and 4lb hammer to drill a hole. not recommended. The Bosch SDS with the Bosch bits will go through reinforcing with a little extra delay, I was using a very large one ( rental tool, I do not have a SDS drill that would do a 75mm hole through 400mm of concrete) and after about a half hour I heard a different note, and after the large plug fell out I found I had cut through a piece of 25mm rebar making the hole.
Not as bad as when I called "rent a hole" to do some 110mm holes for new drains, they broke 2 thin wall diamond cutters making the one hole. When I was getting a drain made Ivan the plumber dropped off Bongani, with a chisel and a 4lb hammer, and made an outline where he wanted the drain cover plate, and went off to the next job. I called Ivan about a half hour later and Bongani said " Hau Baas, faga lo jackhammer manje" ( boss, bring the big jackhammer now). He took 2 days with that to make the hole, as the concrete floor there was also cast 400mm thick over the sand, with reinforcing, mesh and sheet steel shuttering under it still. When we dug down to the sewer line we found out we didn't really need those 200 bricks either for the manhole, as we got over 400 used bricks out of the hole, along with the sand for the cement. When we were at the sewer level we also got sea water as the tide came in.
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Have you thought about hanging the shelves from the rafters? That's what I plan to do in my basement lab. I had enough fun drilling the relatively small holes in the concrete for the electrical conduit anchors.
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Yea, I'm using 12V and I did go up to 13.8, and as expected they get hotter and brighter at 13.8. 12V is plenty bright for my use.
How much current do they draw?
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How much current do they draw?
Two of them were running at a little over 1 amp.
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I'm about to finish off a small bench for small scale projects and research. There isn't much room for more equipment on the bench itself, but it's enough for its purpose. I might build a small platform if need be. There's more equipment on the other side of the shot (drill press and other stuff). I took Dave's advice from his diy acoustic panels video and built a few to ease off the reflections. Most of them went to another area where sound recording is relevant, but a few of these panels stayed in the bench area to good effect. Well, that's about it. Oh, notice the book. It's a beast! I just got it today in my mail and I couldn't be happier! ;D
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A few more shots.
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I'm about to finish off a small bench for small scale projects and research. There isn't much room for more equipment on the bench itself, but it's enough for its purpose. I might build a small platform if need be. There's more equipment on the other side of the shot (drill press and other stuff). I took Dave's advice from his diy acoustic panels video and built a few to ease off the reflections. Most of them went to another area where sound recording is relevant, but a few of these panels stayed in the bench area to good effect. Well, that's about it. Oh, notice the book. It's a beast! I just got it today in my mail and I couldn't be happier! ;D
What a transformation! Looks like a good use of space. May be hard to work and read your bible there at the same time htough considering it takes up 50% of your usable space ;) . Loving the fact that it's next to a window though. Must be nice to work on projects during a nice day outside
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Indeed. I might have to move the big book on a desk behind. Windows come in handy while working at nights. There's a good view of the sky when it's a clear night for some extra inspiration.
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@gore: I think you will be annoyed when you have your bench loaded with a project and then want to open one of those small component trays on a lower tier and find what you have in front interferes. Maybe put the component storage box higher, mounted on the wall or on shelves.
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@chickenHeadKnob
Good point. Building a bench platform seems like a good idea for elevating the trays. Plenty of room above. I left one outlet way up in case there's a need to add a wall mounted display.
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Yes, shelving looks like it would be useful to maximise desk space.
Also regarding the scope, I think I'd either operate it upright on the floor (sounds bad but it's much more ergonomic than you might think) or get a lower profile unit and put it on a shelf, it's taking up an awful lot of desk area.
But yes, a massive transformation.
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Also regarding the scope, I think I'd either operate it upright on the floor
I'd also try and find some space to put a netbook when a computer is needed, which could be a lot more often than you expect.
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Also regarding the scope, I think I'd either operate it upright on the floor
I'd also try and find some space to put a netbook when a computer is needed, which could be a lot more often than you expect.
Ain't this the truth... Datasheets and schematics... Personally i have monitor (flat lcd) and small mouse and small keyboard on work desk. Easy to put aside if i need more space, often i dont... Computer itself is located in floor, next to desk...
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Also regarding the scope, I think I'd either operate it upright on the floor
I'd also try and find some space to put a netbook when a computer is needed, which could be a lot more often than you expect.
Flat screen monitor plus an under-desk sliding keyboard and mouse, assuming it can be fitted to your desk. That's been my setup for a number of years now.
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To me, a computer is an essential piece of equipment at the bench. Right now I'm using a small tablet for viewing schematics and datasheets, but it's clumsy business, so a proper laptop or a stationary computer is required. I've seen many cases of laptops being held by an arm type holder in this thread. That's some beautiful stuff. ^-^ Worth getting one for sure. Placing a keyboard/mouse under the desk is a simple task. The scope's massive. Perhaps I should bring in a small profile digital scope on this bench, but on the other hand, you can use the scope itself as a desk, which is what I'm doing. Placing it on the floor would make it inconvenient for making quick adjustments on the scope.
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To me, a computer is an essential piece of equipment at the bench. Right now I'm using a small tablet for viewing schematics and datasheets, but it's clumsy business, so a proper laptop or a stationary computer is required. I've seen many cases of laptops being held by an arm type holder in this thread. That's some beautiful stuff.
I got one of these that holds two monitors off the desktop. They are GREAT!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-LCD-Monitor-Desk-Mount-Stand-Fully-Adjustable-Tilt-for-1-Screen-upto-27-/171297260958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e21cc59e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-LCD-Monitor-Desk-Mount-Stand-Fully-Adjustable-Tilt-for-1-Screen-upto-27-/171297260958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e21cc59e)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUwMFgxMTE5/z/ensAAOSwPgxVNbpF/$_57.JPG)
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To me, a computer is an essential piece of equipment at the bench. Right now I'm using a small tablet for viewing schematics and datasheets, but it's clumsy business, so a proper laptop or a stationary computer is required. I've seen many cases of laptops being held by an arm type holder in this thread. That's some beautiful stuff. ^-^ Worth getting one for sure. Placing a keyboard/mouse under the desk is a simple task. The scope's massive. Perhaps I should bring in a small profile digital scope on this bench, but on the other hand, you can use the scope itself as a desk, which is what I'm doing. Placing it on the floor would make it inconvenient for making quick adjustments on the scope.
You could mount a tablet to the wall pretty easily (with velcro etc) and plug in a keyboard/mouse for it to do most quick google searches etc. It would be easy to take down when needed too, and could have datasheets up constantly in a non-intrusive way. Could also mimic a local PC screen pretty easily (RDP etc) if you needed to check something
I got one of these that holds two monitors off the desktop. They are GREAT!
Those are gerat! And pretty cheap on Amazon
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To me, a computer is an essential piece of equipment at the bench. Right now I'm using a small tablet for viewing schematics and datasheets, but it's clumsy business, so a proper laptop or a stationary computer is required. I've seen many cases of laptops being held by an arm type holder in this thread. That's some beautiful stuff.
I got one of these that holds two monitors off the desktop. They are GREAT!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-LCD-Monitor-Desk-Mount-Stand-Fully-Adjustable-Tilt-for-1-Screen-upto-27-/171297260958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e21cc59e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Single-LCD-Monitor-Desk-Mount-Stand-Fully-Adjustable-Tilt-for-1-Screen-upto-27-/171297260958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27e21cc59e)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTUwMFgxMTE5/z/ensAAOSwPgxVNbpF/$_57.JPG)
I have one similar on my workbench. I use a KVM switch for my company test computer and my personal laptop docking station. Under desk keyboard/mouse tray completes it. Now I need a freestanding dual monitor stand for my ham radio desk. I need something that is more adjustable than my DIY solution.
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my messy bench, actually it became a place to stack up stuff. In the process of sorting/organizing.
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my messy bench, actually it became a place to stack up stuff. In the process of sorting/organizing.
Working on a 7075 I see :-/O
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You must be working on a 7075,I wanted one.
My 7065 Vref has drifted out of range or( something else is wrong) the closest I can get it to 10V is 100ppm out :(.
shame really, I learned about 6.5 digit meters from it, and acquired more gear to fix it :) wallet says :( .
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You must be working on a 7075,I wanted one.
My 7065 Vref has drifted out of range or( something else is wrong) the closest I can get it to 10V is 100ppm out :(.
shame really, I learned about 6.5 digit meters from it, and acquired more gear to fix it :) wallet says :( .
You can not fix this with Links A to J in the reference? Diagram 2.4, Page 4.2.11 in my version of the manual.
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Correct(), I will have another go at it over the summer. When I got it no links were soldered(not good).
I did manage to fix the 120pa of bias current though. Cleaning didn't help much, but accidently breaking a wire/ resoldering it did.
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All my analogue scopes and meters are now in the attic. Just replaced the ESD matting, moved the workbench into the corner of the room and here is the result...
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Tannoy Coaxial's - don't see those everyday. I used to have a pair of SL-1700MK's for all that vinyl too.
Where do you keep all your parts? Looks like you have a panelized PCB that would need a bunch of parts.
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Tannoy Coaxial's - don't see those everyday. I used to have a pair of SL-1700MK's for all that vinyl too.
Where do you keep all your parts? Looks like you have a panelized PCB that would need a bunch of parts.
Indeed, I have plenty parts stocked up... That's a vocoder PCB on the bench... The resistors (TH & SMD) are to the right of the vinyl, then on the other side of the room is where the mess is (I'm still in the pocess of tidying)... There's also a couple of cabinets full of components & tools under the workbench.
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All my analogue scopes and meters are now in the attic. Just replaced the ESD matting, moved the workbench into the corner of the room and here is the result...
What do you use the big Tannoy speaker for? Is it a continuity checker for the hard of hearing? :)
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All my analogue scopes and meters are now in the attic. Just replaced the ESD matting, moved the workbench into the corner of the room and here is the result...
What do you use the big Tannoy speaker for? Is it a continuity checker for the hard of hearing? :)
I have them mic'd up to the whistle on my kettle... :o
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my new setup, just installed new Led lights below the shelf.
Still missing equipment, but it's getting there :)
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Are those Ikea "stick" lamps any good? Also what voltage to they run on?
I was in Ikea yesterday and couldn't decide if I should get a couple as work lamps.
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Are those Ikea "stick" lamps any good? Also what voltage to they run on?
I was in Ikea yesterday and couldn't decide if I should get a couple as work lamps.
If you are referring to the Jansjö, then it's quite popular on the forum - do a search to see some opinions.
There are USB and mains powered versions - the mains models use a 4V 3W adapter.
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Busy with something else, so as I had the camera out and was busy.......
Even had a visitor to the grapefruit tree outside, looking for some crunchy lunch for himself.
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If you are referring to the Jansjö, then it's quite popular on the forum - do a search to see some opinions.
I bought a few after seeing them on the forum, and they're pretty handy for spot illumination of your work. And in a pinch it also double as a microphone standard. ;D
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Are those Ikea "stick" lamps any good? Also what voltage to they run on?
I was in Ikea yesterday and couldn't decide if I should get a couple as work lamps.
If you are referring to the Jansjö, then it's quite popular on the forum - do a search to see some opinions.
There are USB and mains powered versions - the mains models use a 4V 3W adapter.
i just realized you are talking about the light on the side, yes it's the ikea. it has a USB connector and will run out of my laptop but it has its own USB AC as well.
It's not as bright as the one i have under the shelf, but it's very handy.
mine are those :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OH4XWNM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OH4XWNM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Used them for only one day, but i'm pretty impressed from them. very bright, and dim-able (warm light).
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Nice one thanks for the info. I already use a Jansjö so was referring to the other as I need some more ambient light on the table.
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Here's my little bench.....
Old setup, when i had to use my common area in my old house, now I have an apartment with a room dedicated for amps, guitars, pedals, electronics....
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
:wtf:
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
I'd probably end up hospitalized from trying to climb over that mess. :scared: :-DD
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I just noticed that at this angle, you cant see the foot path..
...but its there. ;)
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
I Wilhelmed!
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@kakureru - Just how many digital cameras does one need... :o
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Started out as 4 and ppl just kept giving them to me. Sometimes de-sanding a camera lens could be zen like.
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130318062239/starwars/images/6/6e/Trash.png)
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130318062239/starwars/images/6/6e/Trash.png)
Be nice!
At least it's dry and doesn't appear to contain any rapacious monsters, horned skull notwithstanding.
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When I got started in this hobby 1.5 years ago, I made the decision to keep my workbench on the main level where space is limited and not down in the basement where space is not a problem. This allows me to be near enough to my wife that we can converse while she does her thing and I do mine. While she was okay with that idea, she didn't want a practical (i.e. big & ugly) workbench in our breakfast nook. So I adapted a piece of furniture we already had but weren't really using.
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My humble Ham shack with test gear.
Everything in the picture is old enough to vote, some is old enough to have had grandchildren. :)
(http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/AF6LJ/Shack/IMG_0724_zpsvsdna9om.jpg) (http://s558.photobucket.com/user/AF6LJ/media/Shack/IMG_0724_zpsvsdna9om.jpg.html)
(http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/AF6LJ/Shack/IMG_0723_zps80sj4lbi.jpg) (http://s558.photobucket.com/user/AF6LJ/media/Shack/IMG_0723_zps80sj4lbi.jpg.html)
(http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/AF6LJ/Shack/IMG_0722_zpsi1uo9au4.jpg) (http://s558.photobucket.com/user/AF6LJ/media/Shack/IMG_0722_zpsi1uo9au4.jpg.html)
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Is the rubber mallet for those delicate tuning challenges?
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Is the rubber mallet for those delicate tuning challenges?
Widlarizer lite?
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LOVE the heathkit radio gear! I bought a 301 and a 401, station console, speakers, powersupplies, etc. with the intent of restoring and building a full heathkit station. Eventually realized that that is going to take a LOT longer than I had originally planned |O so I got a nice little yaesu 857 to actually be 'on the air' and, well, I will continue to clean up the heathkits, and hopefully get them working sooner rather than later. I look forward to using that as my main station, and sticking the 857 in my car...
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You don't need to hit thermionics hard to widlarize them!
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Is the rubber mallet for those delicate tuning challenges?
Widlarizer lite?
Yah. :)
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LOVE the heathkit radio gear! I bought a 301 and a 401, station console, speakers, powersupplies, etc. with the intent of restoring and building a full heathkit station. Eventually realized that that is going to take a LOT longer than I had originally planned |O so I got a nice little yaesu 857 to actually be 'on the air' and, well, I will continue to clean up the heathkits, and hopefully get them working sooner rather than later. I look forward to using that as my main station, and sticking the 857 in my car...
The SB-301 develops power supply issues when they get as old as they are now.
I have an SB-301 that is going to be a future project, it will be my second. I built an SB-301 back in 1972. Beside the SB-401 there is a Heath SB-303 I picked up a few years ago off E-Bay. The SB-220 has been a project
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?372651-SB-220-Find (http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?372651-SB-220-Find)
I picked this up at the local Ham Radio Outlet. It had been modified, and it is now a part of a rehabilitation project, phase two of which will be happening soon.
The Johnson Matchbox came to me in a basket, One of the owners had repainted it and stopped work on the project, I scrounged up a few needed parts and put it back together.
The Kenwood R-599 receiver was DOA, along with the Kenwood TS-820 and the IFR FM/AM 1000S, all are functional now.
The two Heath SB-620s are waiting to be hooked up, one to the SB-303 the other to my SB-301 after it is restored. They are panoramic adapters. Of the radios the only ones bought new are the two Icom radios the IC-745 was purchased in 1986 and has several tens of thousands of hours on it. It was my main SWL and utility radio for decades. The Icom IC-756 was purchased in 1996, and was pressed into service while I was looking for a spare parts 745. The radio had developed a PLL synthesizer problem a filter used in the sub loop had gone bad and is a custom part and no longer available.
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Here is mine
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Here is mine
OMG that shelving. Pretty envious. Why do you have so many motherboards up top?
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Maybe a computer repair shop?
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The main function of my workbench is for computer repair. I use the motherboards for parts
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Nailed it :-+
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Here is mine
Nice...
You have to watch those spare parts they accumulate really fast. :)
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That is a incredibly neat(tidy) desk.
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That is a incredibly neat(tidy) desk.
If you are talking about my desk; it only stayed that long for the pictures..
The next pictures will not look so tidy...
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Time to post my bench too.
And because my lab is also my pc-room / dining room / living room / bedroom (Perks of still being in student housing :-DD ) space is very limited so the only way is up! ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/e8O5mnP.jpg)
Also, this is about the tidiest it has ever been since I just finished mounting the 4 square cabinet so had to clean everyting of.
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Time to post my bench too.
And because my lab is also my pc-room / dining room / living room / bedroom (Perks of still being in student housing :-DD ) space is very limited so the only way is up! ;D
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Also, this is about the tidiest it has ever been since I just finished mounting the 4 square cabinet so had to clean everything of.
You have your lab, complete with mantis scope, in your dorm room! HA! Please tell me your roommate is an English history major and thinks you are completely insane.
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Time to post my bench too.
And because my lab is also my pc-room / dining room / living room / bedroom (Perks of still being in student housing :-DD ) space is very limited so the only way is up! ;D
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Also, this is about the tidiest it has ever been since I just finished mounting the 4 square cabinet so had to clean everything of.
You have your lab, complete with mantis scope, in your dorm room! HA! Please tell me your roommate is an English history major and thinks you are completely insane.
Looks like a proper fume extraction system as well (follow the hosing). ;D
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Looks like a proper fume extraction system as well (follow the hosing). ;D
Bofa v200 (http://www.bofa.co.uk/productDetails.asp?pid=14) ;)
Works a treat and felt as a good investment seeing I sleep in the same room I solder in, and opening a window with a homemade fan on the desk just wasn't working good enough for me :)
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
If I had more stuff, my set up would exactly be like that |O
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Bofa v200 (http://www.bofa.co.uk/productDetails.asp?pid=14) ;)
darn, that doesn't look like it can be had for 100 EUR. How much does one have to fork out for a beast like that?
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darn, that doesn't look like it can be had for 100 EUR. How much does one have to fork out for a beast like that?
Lets just say you can get about 1,5 brand spanking new JBC soldering irons for the price :-\
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That Bofa fume extraction unit looks to be very similar to the ones issued to our engineering labs a while back.
The best thing about it is it keeps the whingers happy who won't allow a soldering iron to be left on without one of these things running.
The bad things are:
Very noisy. Holy shit, I'd hate to have one of these here at home. It's not as noisy as a regular domestic vacuum cleaner but it is still very noisy.
Crap... and I mean CRAP extraction performance unless you solder right next to the nozzle. Otherwise it misses the fumes. So you have to keep moving your work (or the nozzle) to keep in the suction zone.
The on/off switch is on the side hidden next to the mains inlet cable so it is really fiddly to turn on and off. So if you have it below the bench you can forget about using the on/off switch on the unit. Or if you do then you can combine the use of this switch with your yoga exercises. Basically the design of this thing is so retarded they don't even offer a remote/foot switch with it. The more expensive models appear to offer a remote switch and speed control but this should be an option on all models. Or at least put a decent n/off switch on the unit rather than the fiddly rocker switch next to the mains inlet.
Basically, they are shite (limited effectiveness and very noisy) but they keep the whingers happy. Maybe if the whingers realised how ineffective these units were they would start whinging for an alternative.
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I can't say I share (all) of your bad experience with it. The only thing I agree on is the fiddly power switch. But I "fixed" that as soon as I got the unit with a 230V relay and the nice big red dome switch you can see in the picture of my bench. (just left of the hose).
The noise isn't too bad at all imo. You can definitely hear it but I've had 40mm case fans making more noise.
The nozzle sucks up pretty much all the smoke up to about 25 - 30cm from my experience. I usually just set it up about 10cm from the desk surface pointed at a slight angle downwards and move my board around just fine without losing suction. And if I want to solder one the other side of my desk I just bend the hose a bit, takes all of 5 seconds, whoohoo.
But perhaps our standards are just different :-+
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I think a lot depends on how you plan to use the unit. In our busy RF design labs these things 'have' to be used now. They are too big to go on top of a bench as they eat up too much valuable space and if you put it below the bench the hose has limited reach. So if you only plan to solder in a tiny part of your bench then maybe you can live with it. But if you work on large units or need to solder in several places on the bench then it soon becomes impractical to keep moving this noisy thing around.
I simply don't have the patience to keep moving the unit or the hose and I hate the on/off switch design. Also, it can easily suck up SMD tape or bits of paper so you have to be careful what items you have near your work area. Most engineers hate using them and they just get turned on to keep the whingers happy.
If you always solder in a tiny work area then the extraction performance is fine but in my experience most people solder stuff in various locations around their work bench and so only a limited qty of fumes get extracted.
I'm surprised that you don't find it that noisy. Maybe yours runs at a lower speed or has different insides to ours. The ones at work are not as noisy as a regular vacuum cleaner but they are noisy enough to be very annoying.
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
Are you a character from a cyberpunk novel? Do you wear brain implants and sleep 1 hour a day?
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Crap... and I mean CRAP extraction performance unless you solder right next to the nozzle.
Did anyone ever replace the filters in it? :-//
They don't extract very well when clogged, and they happen to make a lot more noise when they're like this IME.
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Thought I'd share too.
Mostly focused on microcomputers, and digital stuff.
(http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm170/stofbag/IMG_0303_zpsubrvnw0l.jpg)
Test gear on shelf R->L: TTI 4800 logic analyzer, small composite monitor, analog mmeter, PSU's, EPROM eraser.
On bench, R->L: Dumb terminal (restoration ongoing), ZX spectrum+2 with ½ an IO interface, and an old PACE desoldering/soldering station.
Analog oscilloscope under table, as well as PROM programmer, and a heap of RF test generators and other DIY RF gear, from my HAM time.
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Did anyone ever replace the filters in it? :-//
They don't extract very well when clogged, and they happen to make a lot more noise when they're like this IME.
That's a good point but the unit in our lab area was new last Autumn and has seen little use. It isn't a production environment. To give some idea of how little use it has seen, the reel of solder on the work area has only gone down very slightly. Maybe 20 small PCB/jigs have been made in this time plus some minor rework and a few cables made.
Besides, it doesn't seem any noisier or quieter to me since it was first installed. The other annoying aspect of it is that it's hard to move around. You have to pick it up like a huge pot plant. There are no carry straps or handles on it. Whoever designed the 'Human Factors' for this product probably didn't think much beyond "big cheap square metal box with fume hose and mains inlet filter with integral on/off switch and add a filter change lamp"
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A quick picture of my current mini-lab and some of my goodies. It is growing quickly, so I will likely be adding some shelving units & a drafting desk, or just moving everything to a dedicated room.
I am currently troubleshooting the 468 I just bought so I can put it into operation with my 465. Then to a 475 or 475A project... :-+
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What is the old gear on the top shelf, reminds me of General Radio.
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That's a good point but the unit in our lab area was new last Autumn and has seen little use. It isn't a production environment. To give some idea of how little use it has seen, the reel of solder on the work area has only gone down very slightly. Maybe 20 small PCB/jigs have been made in this time plus some minor rework and a few cables made.
Anyone disassembled it to see if there's a blockage, something is bent, ... (maybe some packing material wasn't removed or something)? :-//
Might be a lot more convenient than returning it, and make the thing useful. Not much to them, so should be a simple matter to investigate IMHO (metal box, some filters, and a squirrel fan w/ hoses attached to the outside of the box). ;) :-/O
The other annoying aspect of it is that it's hard to move around. You have to pick it up like a huge pot plant. There are no carry straps or handles on it. Whoever designed the 'Human Factors' for this product probably didn't think much beyond "big cheap square metal box with fume hose and mains inlet filter with integral on/off switch and add a filter change lamp"
This type is meant to be stationary as I understand it. FWIW, it's the Hakko FA-430 (http://www.hakko.com/english/products/hakko_fa430.html) that comes to mind when I think of portable, which is made of plastic (has handles molded into the enclosure).
As per handles on the unit at hand, maybe add some?
Drill some holes and use pop rivets /w large pan heads to attach nylon straps while it's still apart after inspection for example (assuming the problem is identified and easily fixed).
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A2AT - nice looking Wavetek 166. How's it working? I've got one with an intermittent fault that I haven't yet tried to track down.
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On bench, R->L: Dumb terminal (restoration ongoing), ZX spectrum+2 with ½ an IO interface, and an old PACE desoldering/soldering station.
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I hope that's a cinnamon stick on your coffee, then again it looks like a shark is swimming on it.
I would ditch the Dumb terminal, it looks almost as big as my first one (VT-52), If you must have one at least go for a VT-520 (hard to find) or a VT-420, they are still vintage enough and you'll get 30% of your bench back :)
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What is the old gear on the top shelf, reminds me of General Radio.
Yep, it's a GenRad 1330A Bridge Oscillator. The knobs are off because I am in the process of cleaning the front panel. The inner workings are mint, though.
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A2AT - nice looking Wavetek 166. How's it working? I've got one with an intermittent fault that I haven't yet tried to track down.
It works great. Funny thing is it's a bit dented and scratched, and the face was filthy when I got it. I expected I would have to fix it, but I didn't even have to clean the boards. If you need someone to compare notes with to try and track down your fault, let me know. I don't mind opening it up and poking around a bit. I don't have an iso transfo yet, though, so my scopeshots might be a bit limited.
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A few new items added to my bench, so now things I have:
Test gear:
- Luyang YB4325 20MHz CRT oscilloscope with digital readouts
- Zhenxing DT-890 3.5 digit digital multimeter
- Fuke (not Fluke) A830L 3.5 digit digital multimeter, as a backup meter
- Suntek A6243L 3.5 digit inductor/capacitor meter
- u-blox 6010-based GPS module (used as time standard)
Generic tools
- MiniPro TL866CS universal programmer (hacked into a TL866A)
- Computers! PC running Ubuntu Linux, MacBook Pro running OS X, and a floating Windows 10 virtual machine (since both my computers have access to one common server and have VMware Fusion/Workstation, I kept that virtual machine floating there)
Microcontrollers:
- Arduinos! Uno, Leonardo, Mega 2560 and Due, one each
- Raspberry Pis! Model B, 2x Model B+, 2x Rev 2 Model B
- Spare ATmega328P, ATtiny85, ATmega128, ATmega32U4, STC15L2K60S2 (8051-based 3.3V), PIC16F72 chips
- AVRISP mkII (in transit)
- PICkit 3
FPGA and PLD:
- 2x Altera MAX II EPM240T100 evaluation board
- Altera MAX II EPM570T100 evaluation board
- Spare EPM240C100, EPM570C100 and GAL16V8 chips
- Altera USB Blaster clone
The USB Blaster clone is the most used programming tool, as I use it as a generic USB JTAG adapter.
Partial bench shot:
(https://en.maxchan.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/IMG_0157.jpg)
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Technix - I used to have that same Pioneer receiver unit.. a friend bought it in Germany and forgot to switch the PSU over before plugging it in in the USA. I took it apart instead of fixing it, so I have a spare tranfo with the rectifiers still attached if you ever need one!
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Technix - I used to have that same Pioneer receiver unit.. a friend bought it in Germany and forgot to switch the PSU over before plugging it in in the USA. I took it apart instead of fixing it, so I have a spare tranfo with the rectifiers still attached if you ever need one!
Thanks for the info but if it breaks down I will scout for parts myself. Transfo is EXPENSIVE to send internationally!
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There have been a few shots of messy (but interesting!) work areas recently. So I thought I'd put an entry in for that competition. Not my electronics work area, just the mechanical workbench. Messy enough?
I'd say I tidy it up now and then, but that's a pretty rare event. It usually has several different wedged projects getting in each other's way. Now being no exception.
Currently it's being used for disassembly of several old rear-projection TV sets, that I'd been accumulating till I had enough to make it worthwhile. Apart from a some components to be scavenged off the boards, the main thing I want is the silicone cooling fluid between the high power CRT glass and the lenses. Optically clear, doesn't go cloudy or scummy over time, and not (particularly) flammable when it gets hot.
I wanted a big jar of it, for a project. And now have!
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Ah nothing like an good old RPTV..
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Ah nothing like an good old RPTV..
Nothing like them, for what? Wasting space? Ostentatiousness? Last gasp of an obsolete CRT technology? Cluttering the living room? Remote viewing of spiderwebs? (in the interior light paths.)
They are goldmines of parts though. You just need a jigsaw to cut the huge case plastic moldings up into pieces small enough to fit in the roley bin.
Also in some of them the huge internal mirror is cute - it's a thin plastic silvered film, stretched tight on a light aluminium frame. That silvered film is useful too.
BTW, does anyone know what that optical CRT-cooling fluid actually is? Some kind of silicone oil, I think. But where would I find a product number and Material Safety Data Sheet? And a source to purchase in bulk? That was a lot of work, just to get 3L of it.
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If you ever has issues with your house floating away, one of those TVs would help allot.
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On bench, R->L: Dumb terminal (restoration ongoing), ZX spectrum+2 with ½ an IO interface, and an old PACE desoldering/soldering station.
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I hope that's a cinnamon stick on your coffee, then again it looks like a shark is swimming on it.
I would ditch the Dumb terminal, it looks almost as big as my first one (VT-52), If you must have one at least go for a VT-520 (hard to find) or a VT-420, they are still vintage enough and you'll get 30% of your bench back :)
Rid of it? It's my pride and joy! It's probably one of the rarest British terminals (Internet-info wise) out there! I'm restoring it for my PDP-11 (when i find one, and I. will. ;D)
I do prefer my coffee with some bite, but it is in fact a teaspoon.
--Christoffer
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On bench, R->L: Dumb terminal (restoration ongoing), ZX spectrum+2 with ½ an IO interface, and an old PACE desoldering/soldering station.
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I hope that's a cinnamon stick on your coffee, then again it looks like a shark is swimming on it.
I would ditch the Dumb terminal, it looks almost as big as my first one (VT-52), If you must have one at least go for a VT-520 (hard to find) or a VT-420, they are still vintage enough and you'll get 30% of your bench back :)
Rid of it? It's my pride and joy! It's probably one of the rarest British terminals (Internet-info wise) out there! I'm restoring it for my PDP-11 (when i find one, and I. will. ;D)
I do prefer my coffee with some bite, but it is in fact a teaspoon.
--Christoffer
Just wondering, since I obtained a bunch of CPLDs, is it worth it creating a PDP-11 clone, running at 50MHz, using a bunch of CPLDs, 6116 SRAM chips and a few modern microcontrollers?
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They are goldmines of parts though. You just need a jigsaw to cut the huge case plastic moldings up into pieces small enough to fit in the roley bin.
Also in some of them the huge internal mirror is cute - it's a thin plastic silvered film, stretched tight on a light aluminium frame. That silvered film is useful too.
BTW, does anyone know what that optical CRT-cooling fluid actually is? Some kind of silicone oil, I think. But where would I find a product number and Material Safety Data Sheet? And a source to purchase in bulk? That was a lot of work, just to get 3L of it.
I've also found that those mirrors are quite useful for diy laser projects since the reflective film is not under the glass.
I'm wondering the same thing about the cooling fluid, as I have about the same amount as you. I was wondering if it would be good to use as transformer oil for the odd projects. I'll try and find it off of the schematics/parts list for RPTV's and such. What are you planning to use it for?
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They are goldmines of parts though. You just need a jigsaw to cut the huge case plastic moldings up into pieces small enough to fit in the roley bin.
Also in some of them the huge internal mirror is cute - it's a thin plastic silvered film, stretched tight on a light aluminium frame. That silvered film is useful too.
BTW, does anyone know what that optical CRT-cooling fluid actually is? Some kind of silicone oil, I think. But where would I find a product number and Material Safety Data Sheet? And a source to purchase in bulk? That was a lot of work, just to get 3L of it.
I've also found that those mirrors are quite useful for diy laser projects since the reflective film is not under the glass.
I'm wondering the same thing about the cooling fluid, as I have about the same amount as you. I was wondering if it would be good to use as transformer oil for the odd projects. I'll try and find it off of the schematics/parts list for RPTV's and such. What are you planning to use it for?
I remember reading that CRT projectors use glycol/glyserol so I guess projection TV's would be similar
http://www.tv-forums.com/forum/TV_Equipment_C4/Projection_TV_Forum_F24/Changing_CRT_Coolant_P15302 (http://www.tv-forums.com/forum/TV_Equipment_C4/Projection_TV_Forum_F24/Changing_CRT_Coolant_P15302)
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-4275 (http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-4275)
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I remember reading that CRT projectors use glycol/glyserol so I guess projection TV's would be similar
http://www.tv-forums.com/forum/TV_Equipment_C4/Projection_TV_Forum_F24/Changing_CRT_Coolant_P15302 (http://www.tv-forums.com/forum/TV_Equipment_C4/Projection_TV_Forum_F24/Changing_CRT_Coolant_P15302)
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-4275 (http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-4275)
Darn, now I'm disappointed. But would have been anyway, since googling it was next.
Also, I tried a quick flammability test with some - wet a piece of tissue in it, then see if it burns. Sure does. That's unfortunate since the intended application must use an absolutely non-flammable fluid. It's something vaguely like lava lamps, only quite different. Still involving thermal convection and light, and will get hot. Lava lamps are now banned due to the fire risk, I heard. Which is fair enough.
I also tested the RPTV fluid for solubility in water, and it is completely soluble. Therefore not a silicone oil. Plus one of the old RPTVs I pulled apart had bad seals, and the fluid had badly corroded the metal frame. That's what prompted me to try the flammability and water solubility, since silicone oils don't corrode metal.
Here's another thread on this stuff: http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=21007&forum=1 (http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=21007&forum=1)
Incidentally, after a relaxing evening stripping components from several RPTV board sets , here's my workbench again. Yes, it's arranged for the pic. The stripped boards were in a stack on the floor, and I'd started sorting the parts then did that arrangement for the pic too. Normally I'd just put groups in small ziplock bags as I separated them. Unlike that guy recently with the thousands of containers of carefully sorted used parts, I don't fully sort these. Just dump them in ziplocks in storage cubes by type. New parts stock are kept sorted by value, used parts just by type and more or less by size/colour and 'strip sets' - since that tends to keep identical parts together.
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I've also found that those mirrors are quite useful for diy laser projects since the reflective film is not under the glass.
Photocopiers are an even better source of front silvered mirrors. They have long strips of quite thick precision front silvered glass in the carriage and fixed optical path.
I'm wondering the same thing about the cooling fluid, as I have about the same amount as you. I was wondering if it would be good to use as transformer oil for the odd projects. I'll try and find it off of the schematics/parts list for RPTV's and such. What are you planning to use it for?
Since discovering it's a mix of ethylene glycol, etc, and it's water soluble, I'd say definitely not good for transformers. Will absorb water, be electrically conductive, and corrode any exposed metal.
You could just buy transformer oil? (Or if you're cheap like me, find some old junk with an oil filled transformer, and use that.)
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The fluid is ethylene glycol, ultra pure, with a small amount of a fungicide added, so that it will be bacteriostatic and not grow anything inside it which will make it cloudy. Most likely additive will be sodium metabisulphate, probably at around 2% concentration so as to keep it free of bacteria, while staying optically clear. Do not drink it, it will be lethal both from the glycol ( which smells sweet and tastes sweet as well) and the preservative is harmful in high concentrations.
If you want transformer oil go to the local welding suppliers store, as they stock it in 1l containers for use in oil cooled welders. Otherwise air tool oil ( used in an inline oiler) is a good substitute.
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Rid of it? It's my pride and joy! It's probably one of the rarest British terminals (Internet-info wise) out there! I'm restoring it for my PDP-11 (when i find one, and I. will. ;D)
I do prefer my coffee with some bite, but it is in fact a teaspoon.
--Christoffer
to ChristofferB and other PDP-11 aficionado's:
I was going through some boxes in my other house a few nights ago and discovered a DEC PDP-11 hardware reference (softcover) in good condition. In the seventies my first mini-computer experience was with an 11/45 in a university basement. You never forget your first -sigh.
I can't remember the exact title as I do not have it in front of me but it fully described instruction sets, memory maps, front panel settings ect. and included some photographs, quite comprehensive. As I was thumbing through it I thought I will never use this again, I wonder if I should ebay it for the retro crowd as I don't want to just throw it away. The cover still has the original uni bookstore price tag $8.95 canadian dollars (1978 value). I will sell it for $20 bux plus shipping to anyone who wants it.
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On bench, R->L: Dumb terminal (restoration ongoing), ZX spectrum+2 with ½ an IO interface, and an old PACE desoldering/soldering station.
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I hope that's a cinnamon stick on your coffee, then again it looks like a shark is swimming on it.
I would ditch the Dumb terminal, it looks almost as big as my first one (VT-52), If you must have one at least go for a VT-520 (hard to find) or a VT-420, they are still vintage enough and you'll get 30% of your bench back :)
Rid of it? It's my pride and joy! It's probably one of the rarest British terminals (Internet-info wise) out there! I'm restoring it for my PDP-11 (when i find one, and I. will. ;D)
I do prefer my coffee with some bite, but it is in fact a teaspoon.
--Christoffer
Just wondering, since I obtained a bunch of CPLDs, is it worth it creating a PDP-11 clone, running at 50MHz, using a bunch of CPLDs, 6116 SRAM chips and a few modern microcontrollers?
It should be doable. There's a lot of PDP-11 info and documentation out there.
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Rid of it? It's my pride and joy! It's probably one of the rarest British terminals (Internet-info wise) out there! I'm restoring it for my PDP-11 (when i find one, and I. will. ;D)
I do prefer my coffee with some bite, but it is in fact a teaspoon.
--Christoffer
to ChristofferB and other PDP-11 aficionado's:
I was going through some boxes in my other house a few nights ago and discovered a DEC PDP-11 hardware reference (softcover) in good condition. In the seventies my first mini-computer experience was with an 11/45 in a university basement. You never forget your first -sigh.
I can't remember the exact title as I do not have it in front of me but it fully described instruction sets, memory maps, front panel settings ect. and included some photographs, quite comprehensive. As I was thumbing through it I thought I will never use this again, I wonder if I should ebay it for the retro crowd as I don't want to just throw it away. The cover still has the original uni bookstore price tag $8.95 canadian dollars (1978 value). I will sell it for $20 bux plus shipping to anyone who wants it.
I would suggest you keep it and scan it up and share the PDF, instead of sell it.
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Lava lamps are now banned due to the fire risk, I heard. Which is fair enough.
Heard from whom? Mathmos still seem to be selling them, even in Australia.
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On bench, R->L: Dumb terminal (restoration ongoing), ZX spectrum+2 with ½ an IO interface, and an old PACE desoldering/soldering station.
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I hope that's a cinnamon stick on your coffee, then again it looks like a shark is swimming on it.
I would ditch the Dumb terminal, it looks almost as big as my first one (VT-52), If you must have one at least go for a VT-520 (hard to find) or a VT-420, they are still vintage enough and you'll get 30% of your bench back :)
Rid of it? It's my pride and joy! It's probably one of the rarest British terminals (Internet-info wise) out there! I'm restoring it for my PDP-11 (when i find one, and I. will. ;D)
I do prefer my coffee with some bite, but it is in fact a teaspoon.
--Christoffer
Just wondering, since I obtained a bunch of CPLDs, is it worth it creating a PDP-11 clone, running at 50MHz, using a bunch of CPLDs, 6116 SRAM chips and a few modern microcontrollers?
It should be doable. There's a lot of PDP-11 info and documentation out there.
I will try if I got time and get my mind around VHDL. That would be a great exercise on system design.
By the way, maybe I would take the PDP-11 architecture and boost it up to 32 or 64 bit to make it at least a little bit more modern. That would make very good use of a few 100-pin and 144-pin TQFPs.
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technix writes,
I would suggest you keep it and scan it up and share the PDF, instead of sell it.
That's an idea I didn't consider. But some problems present, I don't have a scanner and the book is on the small and thick side which means it doesn't want to lay flat and you would get that optical distortion as the page curves toward the spine. Further it is disadvantaged by having many pages and fine print. I understand that google and other people who have large scale scan operations actually dismantle the books before scanning. I will have to think about it some more.
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1. Every conceivable item of PDP-11 documentation has already been scanned
2. Please consider taking PDP-11 discussions to a more relevant thread
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I was going through some boxes in my other house a few nights ago and discovered a DEC PDP-11 hardware reference (softcover) in good condition. In the seventies my first mini-computer experience was with an 11/45 in a university basement. You never forget your first -sigh.
I can't remember the exact title as I do not have it in front of me but it fully described instruction sets, memory maps, front panel settings ect. and included some photographs, quite comprehensive. As I was thumbing through it I thought I will never use this again, I wonder if I should ebay it for the retro crowd as I don't want to just throw it away. The cover still has the original uni bookstore price tag $8.95 canadian dollars (1978 value). I will sell it for $20 bux plus shipping to anyone who wants it.
PM sent.
I'll gladly buy it.
Even if there are online PDF copies of the same manual, I'd still like an original.
For one thing because I have a project to scan old tech manuals in much better resolution and quality than usually found. Since I think they are historical treasures, and deserve better.
But also as I too would like to find a PDP 11 someday, to restore and play with.
The issue of needing an edge scanner for thick books is one I'm addressing. I'm fairly poor, so am hacking an existing cheap flatbed scanner to work as an edge scanner. Project in-progress, will be posting a writeup when done. Starting with an old Canon LIDE 20, which are cheaply available 2nd hand.
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Lava lamps are now banned due to the fire risk, I heard. Which is fair enough.
Heard from whom? Mathmos still seem to be selling them, even in Australia.
I can't recall where I got that from. Last year sometime, might have been a conversation, might be plain wrong. Googling finds nothing, except a lot of 'incandescent bulbs becoming unobtainable' teeth gnashing.
But anyway, it's not important. For other reasons the oil I need has to be non-flammable. The RPTV fluid will suffice for concept testing.
By the way, maybe I would take the PDP-11 architecture and boost it up to 32 or 64 bit to make it at least a little bit more modern. That would make very good use of a few 100-pin and 144-pin TQFPs.
Perhaps not a good idea? The architecture is obsolete, and of no interest other than historical. Might be better to keep an FPGA version true to the original? Also, cheaper if fitted in smallest possible parts.
If you want to put in extra effort, make an FPGA version complete with replica physical front panel; LEDs and paddle switches. Could be done in flat form, so you could have a working PDP 11 front panel clone hanging on a wall. Add one ethernet port with supervisor micro for remote upload and monitoring, with a remote access util for PCs (or just make it fully web/html format), so you can script the blinkenlighten...
Is that Cool or not?
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My bench, the living room table, looks like the attached.
Working on a simple twin-t filter/amp AF oscillator for a test audio single for an iambic keyer I'm working on. Tried Manhattan construction for the first time - was a pain cutting out PCB blanks but worked quite well apart from some poor planning on my part.
There's a TTi PL330 PSU, an HP 6236B, a dead Tek 453, a limping Fluke 77 and a pile of tubs of components dotted around the house as well. I'm using an 8xAA pack and a current limiting resistor there as I've run out of sockets at the table and the kids nicked my extension block for iPad charging. Boo hiss. Soldering iron PSU lives on the chair as the magnetic field cocks up the scope otherwise (could do with some shielding there).
Components kept bagged in tubs. R=resistors. C=caps/inductors. S=semis. I=ICs. HT=hand tools. D/S = Don't bag/Swept (working parts box/prototype handy stuff and probe attachments)
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I cleaned up my workbench from a few post ago, and only managed to add one more item to it...
(http://i.imgur.com/woOpBdp.png)
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Hi been semi lurking here for awhile now, so I thought i would post my lab and a library shot.
thanks
ketil
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Hi been semi lurking here for awhile now, so I thought i would post my lab and a library shot.
thanks
ketil
I also had that IKEA clip-on lamp - it is really versatile! :-+
I don't have that much test equipments and my equipment placement is integrated into my overall desk layout, with no shelf space.
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I moved recently and I've finally got my basement workshop mostly put together. I've got my electronics bench on one side and my wood and metal tools on the other.
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@ KetilB, What is the gear stacked on the rack case.
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I moved recently and I've finally got my basement workshop mostly put together. I've got my electronics bench on one side and my wood and metal tools on the other.
On the tool photo, there's a receptacle man-shaped being hung from a nail. My curiosity is piqued, so I have to ask; is it an attempted suicide or did it just piss you off? :o :P
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On the tool photo, there's a receptacle man-shaped being hung from a nail. My curiosity is piqued, so I have to ask; is it an attempted suicide or did it just piss you off? :o :P
Now that you mention it, it does look a little morbid. :) :)
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Queens Birthday long weekend here in NZ.
I finally got round to cleaning it up...
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Mr.B... very nice.
6 screens !! how ya doing that and what for ?
cheers
Tim
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Queens Birthday long weekend here in NZ.
I finally got round to cleaning it up...
Very nice! :)
Got any photos of it in it's normal state though (representative of the typical state of messiness)? :o :P
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Everyone seems to be making much better use of space than I am.
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Love that 6-screen setup, I might have to steal that idea
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Love that 6-screen setup, I might have to steal that idea
Best monitor arrangement in my opinion. I've been rocking that layout for about 4 years. Only hard part is getting 6 quality monitor outputs from the PC. I used to run three 2-output graphics cards, but now I'm doing two 2-output cards and 2 onboard motherboard outputs.
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DisplayPort capabilities might make it easier. 1.2 spec allows four monitors on a single port. Probably still too expensive right now, but it will probably become the standard in the future for multi display setups.
Great looking lab space Mr. B.
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pfft. 6? Real men have 24! :wtf:
(http://www.stocktradingtogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/massive-trading-system-copy.gif?83c9af)
Seriously though, traders have been using multiple monitors for years. Not sure what hardware they typically use
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Seriously though, traders have been using multiple monitors for years. Not sure what hardware they typically use
PCIe expansion boxes will allow you to run enough cards on a suitable motherboard to run a 24 screen setup (example (http://www.amazon.com/Xpander-Desktop-High-speed-supports-XPDT-X16-ELDHE2/dp/B00CX3FH96/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1433196485&sr=8-6&keywords=external+pcie+slot+expansion+box)). Not exactly cheap, but doable.
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@ KetilB, What is the gear stacked on the rack case.
Hi so it a SINGER, Sideband Analyzer System SSB-50-1
Its a spectrum analyzer and a two tone generator, with the range extender I think the analyzer can go to 20 MHz
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6 screens !! how ya doing that and what for ?
How = three dual graphics cards.
Why = because I can... ;D
Very nice! :)
Got any photos of it in it's normal state though (representative of the typical state of messiness)? :o :P
Thank you...
No, I don't have any 'before' photos. I am a bit ashamed of the mess.
Love that 6-screen setup, I might have to steal that idea
Best monitor arrangement in my opinion. I've been rocking that layout for about 4 years. Only hard part is getting 6 quality monitor outputs from the PC. I used to run three 2-output graphics cards, but now I'm doing two 2-output cards and 2 onboard motherboard outputs.
I have been using this configuration for about 4 or 5 years too.
The monitors are starting to get a bit tired. You can see the dramatic colour difference in the white, particularly the two on the left.
I have just purchased the kit to build a bigger and better PC. Now I need to decide if I want 6 new monitors or 3 bigger ones rotated 90 degrees.
3 new 16:9 aspect ratio 4K 34" monitors will cost a lot more than 6 new 5:4 aspect ratio 19" monitors.
I just cannot decide at the moment.
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Why = because I can... ;D
Best reason ever given. ;)
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Why = because I can... ;D
Best reason ever given. ;)
Ha! Yes. That's the same reason I give to justify why I have a lab full of vintage test equipment - most of which I do not need... ;D
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There's some amazing workbenches here and it's great to see the variation in what people use :) and i admit, I'm Incredibly jealous.
This is my rather lackluster workbench, I don't have the much in way of equipment, simply because i'm the kind of person that will buy something when i need it. that being said i do plan to get an Oscilloscope soon :)
Oh and yes, it's in my bedroom, I sadly don't have that much space where i live currently :/
David~
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This is my rather lackluster workbench, I don't have the much in way of equipment, simply because i'm the kind of person that will buy something when i need it.
Blah - I started out with an almost exact set up. 3-4 later I have a scope, counter, 4-3 power supplies and a 5 1/2 meter. You mentioned you'll buy what you need when you need it - actually - you'll get to the point where you buy stuff 3-6 months before you need it. At least that's what I did.
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Here it is. My humble electronics lab / one room apartment.
Good thing is, everything is within reach..... Most of the time.
Equipment worth mentioning:
HP 54501A oscilloscope
Homemade dual polarity psu. Made from a dvd player and some spare stainless.
Single supply psu I made in school
Amprobe AM520eur multimeter
Cargo Multimeter. Had it since I was about 10. Battery life is excellent. Not really sure if I ever changed the battery.
Dremmel w. the crappy drill press
Weller WTCP-S. Got it so cheap I can live without the temp control.
It's allmost to neat and clean for a lab, but my parents where visiting, so i kinda had to get rid off the mess ;)
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A couple of pictures of the electronics bench in my playroom. The first one was taken just after fitting the new antistatic mat, which is why it is so clean & tidy! the second one is a bit closer to normal. The PC on this bench is used only for instrument control, PIC development & PC-based things like my Intronix Logicport. My main computer is on the desk, out of shot.
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Lifting the test gear slightly off the surface buys a lot more room. Nice.
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My mess
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Ok, as promised heres my small home corner lab... Only couple of things missing from that picture, is one of those chinese nail owens i use to do photo resists pcb's (it has its own place on another nearby), few multimeters, wires, etc...
Most components are stored under that desk in plastic bins. Should install some led strips under there to have some light when i need it... Also starting to realize why people don't usually have corned desks... Should design a shelf for this on to move adjustable psu and oscilloscope up from desk surface. :scared: But then that would require ledstrip for lighting too...
It newer ends... Darn you Dave for making such cool videos about electronics. Dont think i would have ever come back to this without them.... ;)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/133061229@N04/18465179326/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133061229@N04/18465179326/)
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- Agilent E2641 3 channel power supply
I am pretty sure that supply is a Agilent E3631, I have never heard of a E2641
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Nice setups in here! I have what i call "organized chaos"... Like many i've seen here we all just do the best we can with what we have to work with!!
I am NOT a naturally organized person but i have been trying harder as I see a real need to as I get older. It gets tedious wasting time looking for something while your thinking "I know I saw that somewhere over this way"... I can never get back moments wasted like that and brothers when you pass 50 you will surely wish you could re-gain some time!!
Love this post it is giving me some great ideas for my own organizational needs...
OK so don't laugh....
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OK so don't laugh....
:-DD
No really, I've seen a whole lot worse. :)
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..."organized chaos"...
Remove the clutter that's restricting access to the refrigerator and microwave, and you're good to go. :-+
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I would love to have that much space, even with the clutter you have in there, your empty area is bigger than my 8' by 9' (2.44m by 2.74m) home office.
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Very fortunate here, my home office is an add on at the back of the house the previous owners did. The space is 9.5 by 22 feet. I have room for my 8' workbench, 8x9.5 ft L shaped desk, a 6' ham radio desk, a big military filing cabinet, a diy oscilloscope cart to display my Tek 533A and 2 wire rack shelving units. There is even room for some people out here ;D
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Good to see everyone's set-ups keep them coming. :)
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Blah - I started out with an almost exact set up. 3-4 later I have a scope, counter, 4-3 power supplies and a 5 1/2 meter. You mentioned you'll buy what you need when you need it - actually - you'll get to the point where you buy stuff 3-6 months before you need it. At least that's what I did.
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That's cool :) i do feel odd for not having as much equipment but for the most part I've found that i don't really need much. I'm only forward thinking in what projects i want to do, so something sticks in my head for a while and then i do it about 3 months later usually... that is unless a few of my friends ask me to fix things so i'm pretty much the kind to get stuff on the day i do something.
David~
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a big military filing cabinet
I want to see what that looks like!
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a big military filing cabinet
I want to see what that looks like!
Here is a pic. This thing will handle legal size folders-14", weighs as much as Buick and is absolutely fun to move. SWMBO has had it for years as she was a military brat and married military for her first husband. She was the one who also painted it. Maybe someday I will take the time to remove the dents, clean it up and paint it a proper olive drab. :-+
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Ha! Ok - I expected 1/4" plate steel, but still that looks like a beast.
(PS - never buy a filing cabinet from some place like "walmart" - it won't even support the weight of a grown man)
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Ha! Ok - I expected 1/4" plate steel, but still that looks like a beast.
(PS - never buy a filing cabinet from some place like "walmart" - it won't even support the weight of a grown man)
I bent one taking it out of the van. No problem, just used hand pressure to put it back to mostly straight. There seems to be a trend to seeing if they can make the steel thinner than the paint coat on the metal.
Bought a small cabinet on auction, all I had to do was put in new door lock rods and undo the lock ( missing the key, but 2 paper clips fixed that problem), and it is a lot firmer and heavier than the ones you buy now. They did not believe I could fit it in my car, and still have the rear hatch on the VW close...... mostly.
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Ha! Ok - I expected 1/4" plate steel, but still that looks like a beast.
(PS - never buy a filing cabinet from some place like "walmart" - it won't even support the weight of a grown man)
Tell me about it. I bought a 2 drawer for extra file storage and it was dented in no time. Lesson learned.
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In my idiotic youth, we put a large firework inside an ex UK Army filing cabinet we found in the local woods and locked it (had a locking bar rather than piddly little lock at the top). Noise and smoke came out. That was it.
No less than 5 years ago at the grand age of 35, I decided to put a similarly sized one inside a locked cheap Chinese import one (from Viking UK) I was disposing of. Blew the sides clean off and the drawers out.
I'm not sure if that was a scientific test or if it proves that they don't make them like they used to but it was fun and made it fit in the car easier to take to the tip >:D
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In my idiotic youth, we put a large firework inside an ex UK Army filing cabinet we found in the local woods and locked it (had a locking bar rather than piddly little lock at the top). Noise and smoke came out. That was it.
No less than 5 years ago at the grand age of 35, I decided to put a similarly sized one inside a locked cheap Chinese import one (from Viking UK) I was disposing of. Blew the sides clean off and the drawers out.
I'm not sure if that was a scientific test or if it proves that they don't make them like they used to but it was fun and made it fit in the car easier to take to the tip >:D
A fellow home destruction by explosives pyrotechnics enthusiast. :o >:D
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We recently had our premises renovated and my office/lab was expanded from 16m2 to 24m2, part of my old space was used for storage but now its all mine to layout and configure as I desire. I'm happy with the layout now, all I have left is to decide on final dimensions for a new workbench - its going to have cavities that the two tool trolleys fit under (one contains tools, the other components/terminals/fasteners, etc), so a slightly higher and much wider overall bench size - and a higher bench between that and the rack frame
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Although not truly a lab since the space doubles as a man cave, all of the lab work does take place here so I guess it is a man cave lab LOL
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What's on the tape?
Source code for PONG?
Possibly the simulation data from the W.O.P.R.?
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It's reassuring to discover that I'm not the only one with an unaccountable urge to keep an old 9 track tape in their lab.
(http://i.imgur.com/FsYqp2K.jpg)
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I don't see a full rack tape reader and the extra rack of support equipment so I guess it is a full mystery tape.
Could be the lost Apollo images...........
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Sadly I still have a new in wrapping QIC data cartridge. The rest of them went as scrap metal a while ago, for the aluminium bases, and this one escaped. Even found one DAT tape ( and the drive it was used in ) and the DAT cleaning tape.
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Not just in your youth apparently. ;)
You're only young once but you can be immature at any age.
There's a fun 'when we were kids' thread here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today)
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Not just in your youth apparently. ;)
You're only young once but you can be immature at any age.
There's a fun 'when we were kids' thread here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today)
I did everything on that list except shoot a gun/bow. My parents weren't into that and I didn't own my first gun until I was 22. I started teaching my son at the age of 5 about shooting and shooting safety and even cut down a stock on an old Winchester Model 190 .22 cal rifle so he could learn. I also tried to blow up Matchbox cars with fireworks and firecrackers made great land mines when playing with green army men. I still have all my fingers and both eyes :-DD
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What's on the tape?
Actually the short answer is that I don't know. Few years ago I worked on a consulting contract with a government agency here in California (yes don't laugh the land of the silicon valley is still in the medieval ages when it comes to government) and they had to give us some data and the dude said they will FedEx a tape so I was like huh? So being a pompous dot-commer of the time I cracked a joke that we can only accept punch cards. He said that wouldn't be a problem? What? OMG So I asked for stack for my man cave decoration:
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Not just in your youth apparently. ;)
You're only young once but you can be immature at any age.
There's a fun 'when we were kids' thread here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today)
He missed a few that I did, play with matches, set fire to petrol (gas for USA guys) I still have my eyebrows!!
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Not just in your youth apparently. ;)
You're only young once but you can be immature at any age.
There's a fun 'when we were kids' thread here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today)
Skip the snow & ice related stuff (didn't get cold enough for it), and tossing rocks at snakes in a river intentionally as well (hint: Agkistrodon piscivorus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agkistrodon_piscivorus)).
There's also a few things I did that aren't on that list, such as experimenting with chemistry (not the child-proof sets), petrol/gasoline/..., and playing with fireworks. All unsupervised. No limbs lost, And I still have all my hair where it's supposed to be, and so on.
Only managed to break a few fingers growing up, and that was from yawning in a room with ceiling fans. |O :-DD
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Not just in your youth apparently. ;)
You're only young once but you can be immature at any age.
There's a fun 'when we were kids' thread here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today)
He missed a few that I did, play with matches, set fire to petrol (gas for USA guys) I still have my eyebrows!!
At my local petrol station we could get a small amount of petrol out of the pumps after they had been used, enough to fill up two or three plastic containers that come in kinder eggs, add a magnesium fuse and we had seconds of fun and a lot of burning things.
Also fishing with air bombs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlnaN8ga0WU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlnaN8ga0WU)
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My humble workbench. I ordered an ESD mat for the Maple top at the same time I ordered the desk and test equipment, but it has been mysteriously placed on back order since the purchase order was placed.
Thanks for looking!
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Gordon, doesn't it bother you to have your test gear that high up? I have almost everything at eye level or lower. I hate craning my neck, especially since I wear bifocals.
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Maybe he's really, really tall ;)
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Evidently it is by caffeine alone that he sets his mind in motion - the coffee machine is closer than the scope :o
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Gordon, doesn't it bother you to have your test gear that high up? I have almost everything at eye level or lower. I hate craning my neck, especially since I wear bifocals.
I am a Certified Luthier and Amp Tech. I spend more time repairing guitars and amps than utilizing test equipment. Even when I use the DSO to assist with amp/effect repairs, it seems to be in an ideal location. I can diagnose problems, and fix them without relocating any tools.
Maybe he's really, really tall ;)
I also sit on a high stool so the equipment is BARELY above eye level. What little time I'm afforded to spend prototyping or documenting various tests on different gear, the height doesn't bother me. In fact, it helps relieve the neck tension by requiring regular rotation of my neck.
Evidently it is by caffeine alone that he sets his mind in motion - the coffee machine is closer than the scope :o
The Espresso machine has been converted to a steamer with a small needle at the end of 1/4" tubing used to remove the neck from the body of acoustic guitars, and electric guitars with set-necks.
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Evidently it is by caffeine alone that he sets his mind in motion - the coffee machine is closer than the scope :o
The Espresso machine has been converted to a steamer with a small needle at the end of 1/4" tubing used to remove the neck from the body of acoustic guitars, and electric guitars with set-necks.
THAT being said, I'm hardly without a glass of iced sweet tea or a soda within arms reach, but NEVER on my workbench.
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There's a fun 'when we were kids' thread here: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-19/last-rebels-25-things-we-did-kids-would-get-someone-arrested-today)
Arrested for hitting a cop with a stray snowball, seriously? :palm:
Sledding with protective equipment? I never even heard of there being any for it.
Tag is a "dangerous" game?
...Is that an Onion article?
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My current work bench area below.
cheers,
george.
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Nice setup George. I love how everything is within arms reach: test equipment, soldering gear etc. Also like the fume extraction and magnifying lamp. :-+
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I got a good deal on a new Mantis Compact...
(+/- EUR 1.000,- (ex. VAT and ex. lens) from a German dental supplies company.
I have seen local prices around EUR 1.700,- )
Note that I had to raise the desk about 5cm, to get a more comfortable viewing position.
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Very good choice of equipment!
How do you manage to keep your workbench that clean (not to mention tidy)?
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How do you manage to keep your workbench that clean (not to mention tidy)?
I had to clean up the desk, to mount the Mantis and increase the desk height by 5cm... :)
(Also, I'm waiting for parts to arrive from China, for my next project )
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Not my workbench, but definitely an impressive one:
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/193725-the-worlds-most-advanced-particle-accelerator-is-just-12-inches-long-and-sits-on-a-lab-bench-in-the-us (http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/193725-the-worlds-most-advanced-particle-accelerator-is-just-12-inches-long-and-sits-on-a-lab-bench-in-the-us)
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snip...
That's very cool, thanks for sharing.
But, I do have a (probably stupid) question. Is this "basically" a plasma wave machine with the injected particles "surfing" the wave?
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Not mine, but a recent Soldersmoke post linked to 'The Truly Amazing Workbench and Shack of VE7ZWZ (Video)'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=15&v=7A_NqNyvaBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=15&v=7A_NqNyvaBM)
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I came across that guy the other day. He's a smart guy and has some interesting videos.
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I hope his walls are strong! Wow - that's a lot of really old stuff.
I'm always amazed at how people do their work. So many different ways of doing the same thing. It's kinda awesome.
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I'm running out of space, have to use the CNC bed as additional desk space...
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No, I don't have any 'before' photos. I am a bit ashamed of the mess.
This is the main reason, why I don't share pictures of my Bench :palm: ...but some day when I've cleaned up :-+
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(http://i.imgur.com/PzZuSBB.jpg)
Here was my bench at work. We did analog and mixed-signal IC design and verification. But I have traded all that for a computer. =D I'm in EDA now.
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this is my workbench where i do repair jobs to earn extra income..i do consumer electronics repair at home..aside earning from some repairs that i do, this little space i have keeps me on learning electronics though i only have few descent gears available.. a vintage fluke 27/fm (i bought second hand for more or less $18, used and well abused but still works fine), fluke 287 (a gift to me from my father when he retired from his job two years ago), a reconditioned rish insu20 insulation tester (was given to me from a friend and sadly has already failed :palm:) and a dead clamp meter that is irreparable...a few DIY power supply made from scratch, a descent (as i call it) hot air rework station, a few other DIY test gears like analog esr meter (made from a salvaged analog multimeter),and a ringer tester for checking FBTs..i wish i could have more descent gears to ease my repair jobs but sadly such gears are not that easy to acquire in a third world country like here in the philippines (where test gears cost a fotune :phew:)..i would be very gratefull if you could donate your old/unused and dumped test gear that might be useful or repairable..
(http://s26.postimg.org/bo6a9sgeh/IMG_6433.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hccl0okqt/full/)
my few descent test gears
(http://s26.postimg.org/mrpwfe1op/IMG_6439.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/m27431151/full/)
my homemade power supply
(http://s26.postimg.org/6a7i28qo9/IMG_6434.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/wiimrmarp/full/)
my soldering buddy
(http://s26.postimg.org/5yq1pha89/IMG_6435.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/6bhfvnshx/full/)
well its all that i got....
sorry for my english
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sorry for my english
Your English is fine...
As for equipment donations, you should put country flag visible in your profile. That way people that live close your country can see it.. Not too many people ship stufs other side of world. ;)
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Your English is fine...
As for equipment donations, you should put country flag visible in your profile. That way people that live close your country can see it.. Not too many people ship stufs other side of world. ;)
i already had my country flag in my profile..i wonder why you cant see it...by the way i am from philippines..
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... by the way i am from philippines..
What part of Philippines?
I've only been to Manila, and needed to stay in the city for the month I was there. But I hope to visit again and see more of the country someday.
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What part of Philippines?....
i lived in the island of bohol sir to be exact..did you found philippines a nice place?
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.... But I hope to visit again and see more of the country someday.
maybe you can visit bohol next time you visit here in the philippines and take a tour on chocolate hills..our most famous wonder here in our province...i could be your tour guide.. ;)
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i lived in the island of bohol sir to be exact..did you found philippines a nice place?
I found Manila fascinating. Not sure if I'd say nice. Lots of nice people, but so much sorrow and suffering. Lots of money right next to extreme poverty. More banks per square Km than I've ever seen anywhere else, which I'd cynically assume is part of the cause of the general poverty. Along with the yanks stealing all the gold. I wandered around on foot a lot, going places that tourists wouldn't normally see, and never felt unsafe. Just have to learn how to tell the street kids there's no point trying to pick your pockets. And make friends with some scammers.
I was there for several visits to StLukes hospital, for tests related to a medical malpractice case here, after demonstrated bad faith by some doctors here. That wasn't so much fun, and it really limited what I could do.
I like exploring uban & other abandonments, so I _really_ wanted to get out to Corregidor Island and camp for several days while exploring the WWII fortifications. But never had a long enough block of days free.
Also I actually prefer countryside to cities.
maybe you can visit bohol next time you visit here in the philippines and take a tour on chocolate hills..our most famous wonder here in our province...i could be your tour guide.. ;)
Hey, I've seen photos of those. Very cool. They're on my 'want to see' list. Thanks for the offer! If I ever make it there again I'll be in contact. Not sure when it might be... years perhaps.
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I found Manila fascinating. Not sure if I'd say nice. Lots of nice people, but so much sorrow and suffering. Lots of money right next to extreme poverty. More banks per square Km than I've ever seen anywhere else, which I'd cynically assume is part of the cause of the general poverty. Along with the yanks stealing all the gold. I wandered around on foot a lot, going places that tourists wouldn't normally see, and never felt unsafe. Just have to learn how to tell the street kids there's no point trying to pick your pockets. And make friends with some scammer..
Hell yeah..thats the reason why most of our citizens prefer to work overseas to earn better.. Poverty, unemployment, corruption are the cause why some commits crime just to earn a penny..youre lucky you were born on a first world country...how i wish to live on a country that could offer a better life to its citizens...unfortunately i was not born w/ a golden spoon...
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Thought I would post an update to mine. As I have some new kit and to prove to Tautech that I do use my DSO now, and I also do actually repair things even if the coffee cup on my bench is the most used thing on it. the item on the table is that farnell fg3 I got on here, now changed all the electrolytics , did some rewiring and soldering and it fires up first time now.
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As I have some new kit and to prove to Tautech that I do use my DSO now.....
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Nice old CRO you have....
And you need a cat.
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As I have some new kit and to prove to Tautech that I do use my DSO now.....
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Nice old CRO you have....
And you need a cat.
You stop picking on my CRO :rant: . it is always good to ensure you have a back up however newer you go, on top of that I dont tend to throw old things out, remember, we are all getting older, imagine being replaced be a newer version , my tools have feelings too !.
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As I have some new kit and to prove to Tautech that I do use my DSO now.....
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Nice old CRO you have....
And you need a cat.
You stop picking on my CRO :rant: . it is always good to ensure you have a back up however newer you go, on top of that I dont tend to throw old things out, remember, we are all getting older, imagine being replaced be a newer version , my tools have feelings too !.
You have a nice setup looks good.
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Death, no need to justify the CRO, I have a Tek 2235 sitting next to my hacked Hantek DSO5102B. And you don't need a cat. Evil creatures they are. There are 2 in the house that belong to my stepdaughter and they are annoying as anything. I will take my dogs any day. My dogs don't lick themselves and rub their butts on the kitchen counters and dining room table. It keep thinking that a quick marination in Hoisin sauce and Thai chili peppers sauted with veggies served with sticky rice, no one will notice a thing. >:D
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@DeathW, nice set-up, looks useful. Not a cat fanatic here either.
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I don't trust people that don't like cats. :P Same with men that don't get drunk once in a blue moon. Or people with a lot of wealth but don't travel.
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I like cats, just not on my kit, I find it there it finds itself attached to the working end of a variac body popping :box:,
I get drunk every blue moon but only on Brandy,
I am , sadly, not rich, I joined some EE forum and spend it all on kit nowadays, someone did say it was free, but it isn't because you just know you are going to want that little extra piece of equipment |O .
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I don't trust people that don't like cats. :P Same with men that don't get drunk once in a blue moon. Or people with a lot of wealth but don't travel.
I don't like cats because of various experiences with them. My ex wife had a cat that hated me for some reason. I never did anything to the cat but it would regularly piss on my pillow. The cat would also attack every one in the house except her for no reason. Then, with this wife, the stepdaughter brought home 2 strays that were siblings. They were the most destructive creatures ever. My wife, who is very tolerant and loves cats, finally had to tell her that they had to go. My dogs are loving and great company, something I have never found a cat to be.
I also have to pass on the drunk thing. Two doctors recommended to me to not drink anymore for health reasons. I still have the very occasional drink but 1 is the absolute limit |O
I wish I had the money to travel. Someday, maybe.
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I don't trust people that don't like cats. :P Same with men that don't get drunk once in a blue moon. Or people with a lot of wealth but don't travel.
I am with you on this but I would take it a step further.
I don't trust anybody who doesn't like dogs or cats.
I actually understand not liking cats, many don't like a pet that you have to earn their respect.
The cats I have shared my life with are / were that way.
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My tortoise shell queen Trinny came up to me in my garden as I was planting veg out of the blue, rubbed against me and let me pick her up, she stayed for 5 years till the evil shit next door who hated her ran her over, I asked about and everyone said she was a wild cat no one owned or wanted. She used to sleep at the top of my bed across my head !. She was lovely, but I would still not let one near my kit.
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I don't trust people that don't like cats. :P Same with men that don't get drunk once in a blue moon. Or people with a lot of wealth but don't travel.
I am with you on this but I would take it a step further.
I don't trust anybody who doesn't like dogs or cats.
I actually understand not liking cats, many don't like a pet that you have to earn their respect.
The cats I have shared my life with are / were that way.
I will agree with you on the dogs. I have 2-a German/Australian Shepard mix and a Doberman mix. They are my constant companions in my office. I love them just like they are my children. I take care of their needs before mine. Anyone that beats a dog deserves twice the beating in return. Let's not even talk about those that fight dogs. They deserve to be fed to the alligators in Lake Okeechobee.
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Let's not even talk about those that fight dogs. They deserve to be fed to the alligators in Lake Okeechobee.
When I was a child one of my dogs and my grandmother's dog were stolen. 2 days later me and a friend found their dismembered body parts in an open bin outside one of the neighbours back garden, a particularly stupid neighbour who we found out was known to be into dog fighting. It was confirmed (by the police) that he had used them to train his fighting dogs* before hacking them up (the legend says still alive) to dispose of them. After his dogs were seized and he was released my father paid him a visit with a pickaxe handle**. Not a single one of the neighbours who was gawping at the scene witnessed what happened or had a clue who did it lol.
EDIT: I think I should add that no person died, the idiot never tried to get around his ban on keeping animals or even approached anyone else's as long as he still lived there, and the one time something else happened to one of our pets the dog's owner was very relieved to find out we wouldn't hold it against him or the dog that his dog chased after a cat. She was one of those cats who like winding dogs up too so what can you do?
*Because an old Old English sheepdog and old Lab cross that had always been family pets would really be a challenge for a pair of Rottweilers... <--And don't get me wrong, I generally love the breed.
**It's him I get the Irish ancestry from.
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Well, finally got some space cleared. I kindof forgot that I had a anti-static mat:
(http://imgur.com/IiHJxhL.jpg)
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My tortoise shell queen Trinny came up to me in my garden as I was planting veg out of the blue, rubbed against me and let me pick her up, she stayed for 5 years till the evil shit next door who hated her ran her over, I asked about and everyone said she was a wild cat no one owned or wanted. She used to sleep at the top of my bed across my head !. She was lovely, but I would still not let one near my kit.
We had an inside / outside cat that met his maker that way, the really sad part is Oscar was hit and killed on my 33rd birthday. But Oscar did what cats do so being outside was for him necessary. They sure can be heart breakers, they leave us all too soon.
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I am with you on this but I would take it a step further.
I don't trust anybody who doesn't like dogs.
Oh - for sure! You can't have a bad time playing with a great dog!
Well, finally got some space cleared. I kindof forgot that I had a anti-static mat:
(http://imgur.com/IiHJxhL.jpg)
Not too shabby. I could see someone getting some real work done there (and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that has a resistor cheat sheet on the wall! I usually have to second guess myself on the upper and lower multipliers)
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somewhere I have an old cardboard 5 wheel resistor colour code selector, one side gives you the colour and numbers for 4 band resistors, the opposite side 5 banded ones. i think Tandy or Maplins made it.
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My Ham Shack / Solder Lab Part Duce!
(http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Ham-Shack-And-PCB-Rework-Lab-Small.jpg)
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Nice set up.
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Just recently upgraded with a DS1054z. compact, but serves its purpose!
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What is the "Orange"?
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Orange is a Guitar Amp company i believe.
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^ Correct. Thats the Orange Micro Terror, a small guitar amp. I sometimes enjoy messing around with guitar effect circuitry, and it's there for testing and practicing guitar stuff. When I added the shelf to the desk there was a empty spot, and it fit!
So sorry, no fancy/rare measuring device :D
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Just recently upgraded with a DS1054z. compact, but serves its purpose!
The function generator is the chinese brand from ebay right? is it a 'okey' or 'never touch it' instrument?
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Just recently upgraded with a DS1054z. compact, but serves its purpose!
The function generator is the chinese brand from ebay right? is it a 'okey' or 'never touch it' instrument?
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/221413594674 (http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/221413594674) That one to be exact. It's ok. The only thing I haven't figured out yet is the sweep function.
One thing that bugged the sh*t out of me was the loud beep it produced everytime you changed a value. A little duct tape over the small speaker took care of that ;). Certainly not a "never touch it instrument", if it broke and I would be short on cash, I'd buy it again for sure :)
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As I have some new kit and to prove to Tautech that I do use my DSO now.....
:-DD
Nice old CRO you have....
And you need a cat.
You stop picking on my CRO :rant: . it is always good to ensure you have a back up however newer you go, on top of that I dont tend to throw old things out, remember, we are all getting older, imagine being replaced be a newer version , my tools have feelings too !.
The Tek 2235 is my only scope it works great. I don't have enough for a digital scope. What is wrong with it?
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My tortoise shell queen Trinny came up to me in my garden as I was planting veg out of the blue, rubbed against me and let me pick her up, she stayed for 5 years till the evil shit next door who hated her ran her over, I asked about and everyone said she was a wild cat no one owned or wanted. She used to sleep at the top of my bed across my head !. She was lovely, but I would still not let one near my kit.
So sorry to read that. Torties pick their person, and she obviously had picked you.
"God made the cat, that man might have the pleasure of caressing the tiger." - Fernand Mery
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As I have some new kit and to prove to Tautech that I do use my DSO now.....
:-DD
Nice old CRO you have....
And you need a cat.
You stop picking on my CRO :rant: . it is always good to ensure you have a back up however newer you go, on top of that I dont tend to throw old things out, remember, we are all getting older, imagine being replaced be a newer version , my tools have feelings too !.
The Tek 2235 is my only scope it works great. I don't have enough for a digital scope. What is wrong with it?
Nothing. Enjoy yours like I enjoy mine.
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Had to show off the new oscilloscope.
(http://i.imgur.com/lTo7qrv.jpg)
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@ Trophosphere ,, What is the 2U rackmount piece of kit on your bench.
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@ Trophosphere ,, What is the 2U rackmount piece of kit on your bench.
Rohde & Schwarz SML03 Signal Generator
I got it off of Ebay for about 500 USD and repaired it so it was a pretty good deal.
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I've just recently built this and I hope to fail a lot, learn a lot and have loads of fun at this desk.
(http://alexanderbrevig.github.io/assets/images/benchbuild/workbench.png)
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(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/23/a9fe31042275b32c83bbb74f446ea979.jpg)
Here is my lab. I have a variable linear power supply build to start next week, an oscope to fix and a 25mhz sig gen in the mail.
Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
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I've just recently built this and I hope to fail a lot, learn a lot and have loads of fun at this desk.
All those probes and clip leads there waiting for something ... anything ... to measure. :)
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I've just recently built this and I hope to fail a lot, learn a lot and have loads of fun at this desk.
(http://alexanderbrevig.github.io/assets/images/benchbuild/workbench.png)
Nicely built workbench!
One thing though - those lower support panels on the left, with the way you've run the grain horizontally rather than vertically - you know wood planks are very bendy and prone to sudden failure across the grain? Especially when made of glued pieces like that.
If by "fail a lot" you don't mean dropping all your test gear at once, it might be a good idea to add some vertical stiffeners to that. Just saying.
Edit: Or, does the far left tall vertical piece go all the way down? That would do it.
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Nicely built workbench!
Thanks man! It's my first 'woodworking' project, and I'm reasonably happy with the result.
[...]you know wood planks are very bendy and prone to sudden failure across the grain?
I did not know that, but it was my intuition so;
Edit: Or, does the far left tall vertical piece go all the way down? That would do it.
It does indeed and I did hope it would suffice. Though, I'll see about adding some 'reinforcements' to the design down the line :)
All those probes and clip leads there waiting for something ... anything ... to measure. :)
I've also ordered a bunch of components which will keep the drawers and the test leads in company :) I'll probably post again down the line when the bench is actually in use :-/O
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Some really nice benchs since my last visit to this thread.
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I like the solid real wood. Unfortunately it is quite expensive over here.
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I like the solid real wood. Unfortunately it is quite expensive over here.
1" x 12" by 96" pine common board is $19.44 USD here in the US at the big box home improvement store. Interestingly enough, 1" x 8" by 96" pine common board is 31 cents more! I wish I had access to a biscuit joiner, I would redo the top of my workbench with it. They are way too expensive for a single use.
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I like the solid real wood. Unfortunately it is quite expensive over here.
I was in Ikea at the weekend, and in the discount section they had a couple of the butcher block counter tops with a few dings on the end. Would make a perfect workbench.
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I was in Ikea at the weekend, and in the discount section they had a couple of the butcher block counter tops with a few dings on the end. Would make a perfect workbench.
A cheap source of solid workbench tops, is used solid-core doors. They are made of glued together wood strips, with masonite laminated on the outsides. Extremely strong and very heavy. Also because they are junk there's no need to worry about messing up the surface.
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A cheap source of solid workbench tops, is used solid-core doors. They are made of glued together wood strips, with masonite laminated on the outsides. Extremely strong and very heavy. Also because they are junk there's no need to worry about messing up the surface.
That's what I use for one of my benches :) I use a large 'doorblank' fire door that is about 2.15m x 0.95m and it's about 45mm thick.
As you say, they can be very heavy! Some blank firedoors can weigh 75kg! I think mine weighs about 35kg and it is a really solid construction and a good thickness and it has a really nice finished outer layer like a regular door. I think it cost about £60.
You can get some cheaper doorblanks that aren't as strong if you use them as a bench though. Some aren't designed to have lots of weight in the middle as they are only really meant to block fire. It took a lot of web research to find this one and I ended up buying it from a local depot that had them in stock. Definitely one of my better purchases :)
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My bench begins with a 7' executive desk that is 42" deep. The desk is up on blocks since the orginal legs wouldn't support a third of the weight it has on it now.
24" deep shelves 6' long are held up with home made spacers made from 2X4s.
Painted my special shade of Candy Apple Flat Black.
(http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/AF6LJ/Stuff/My%20Gear/IMG_0726_zpsvuaoztma.jpg)
I paid $60.00 US for the desk, getting it home would have been a problem but the used office furniture store delivered it for free.
There is all kinds of potential good deals for workbenchs out there just waiting to be had.
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Love the mallet. 8)
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Love the mallet. 8)
we cal it the irish air cooled fine adjusting tool here
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My bench begins with a 7' executive desk that is 42" deep. The desk is up on blocks since the orginal legs wouldn't support a third of the weight it has on it now.
24" deep shelves 6' long are held up with home made spacers made from 2X4s.
Painted my special shade of Candy Apple Flat Black.
(http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/AF6LJ/Stuff/My%20Gear/IMG_0726_zpsvuaoztma.jpg)
I paid $60.00 US for the desk, getting it home would have been a problem but the used office furniture store delivered it for free.
There is all kinds of potential good deals for workbenchs out there just waiting to be had.
Is that a halli sitting on the end of your desk?
If you want to get rid of all that obsolete stuff above your desk let me know. :)
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Mallet? What mallet? :-// All I can see is a percussive adjustment tool.
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My bench begins with a 7' executive desk that is 42" deep. The desk is up on blocks since the orginal legs wouldn't support a third of the weight it has on it now.
24" deep shelves 6' long are held up with home made spacers made from 2X4s.
Painted my special shade of Candy Apple Flat Black.
(http://i558.photobucket.com/albums/ss21/AF6LJ/Stuff/My%20Gear/IMG_0726_zpsvuaoztma.jpg)
I paid $60.00 US for the desk, getting it home would have been a problem but the used office furniture store delivered it for free.
There is all kinds of potential good deals for workbenchs out there just waiting to be had.
Is that a halli sitting on the end of your desk?
If you want to get rid of all that obsolete stuff above your desk let me know. :)
It is an SX-62, and it works. :)
There is a new piece of obsolete gear added recently.
My HP-5245 frequency counter that goes from 10HZ to 3GHZ. (I only two converters so far)
I love my boatanchors. :)
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This is just my packing, assembly and test area. It's also my workbench for trying out new things. But I have another desk for my computer workstation, and down in the garage a CNC machine for light metalwork duties, and another workbench with drill press, brake, etc.
Test equipment placement is not ideal, but it's better now than it was before where I had to take my project to another bench to do testing/powering up. Then back here to change values, then back there again, rinse and repeat. The small size of the Rigol scope is very nice, I can put it on the bench if I need to. But still keeping my old Tek 2465A as backup.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167926;image)
I put together a 7 shelf bin on wheels and I organize projects I'm working on, with each project having its own bin. So all parts, documents, boards related to that project is in one place. It used to be these projects were in boxes stacked on the floor but if I have to get to the bottom box, I have to move everything on top of it. Now that everything is on a shelf, it's more convenient, and I can roll the whole shelf elsewhere to access area behind it (another workbench that is not utlizied, just crap of stuff on top of it.)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167934;image)
I have a toaster oven, on top of my audio analyzer... also a TV + NTSC camera for SMD board inspection.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167932;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167930;image)
All my "hand tools" related to soldering are to my right (3 soldering irons, hot air gun, hakko desolder gun, solder paste dispenser + air compressor)... all sitting on top of a small fridge, to store my solder paste.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167928;image)
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This is just my packing, assembly and test area. It's also my workbench for trying out new things. But I have another desk for my computer workstation, and down in the garage a CNC machine for light metalwork duties, and another workbench with drill press, brake, etc.
Test equipment placement is not ideal, but it's better now than it was before where I had to take my project to another bench to do testing/powering up. Then back here to change values, then back there again, rinse and repeat. The small size of the Rigol scope is very nice, I can put it on the bench if I need to. But still keeping my old Tek 2465A as backup.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167926;image)
I put together a 7 shelf bin on wheels and I organize projects I'm working on, with each project having its own bin. So all parts, documents, boards related to that project is in one place. It used to be these projects were in boxes stacked on the floor but if I have to get to the bottom box, I have to move everything on top of it. Now that everything is on a shelf, it's more convenient, and I can roll the whole shelf elsewhere to access area behind it (another workbench that is not utlizied, just crap of stuff on top of it.)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167934;image)
I have a toaster oven, on top of my audio analyzer... also a TV + NTSC camera for SMD board inspection.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167932;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167930;image)
All my "hand tools" related to soldering are to my right (3 soldering irons, hot air gun, hakko desolder gun, solder paste dispenser + air compressor)... all sitting on top of a small fridge, to store my solder paste.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=167928;image)
Showoff!!!! [emoji6]
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Very nice; high degree of usefulness and a certain coolness factor.
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I put my together my workbench starting with a Costco folding table and two Costco shelves used at the ends of the table at 90 degrees.
I had some 8 foot plywood boards that I used as shelves. The shelves sit on the book shelves. On the top shelve I zip tied a metal rod and to this I zipped tied a Costco LED light. I think the whole thing was less than $150 including the light.
2x12s could be used as shelves. No tools needed. :)
The only fasteners I used were zip ties, so very easy to take apart. The top shelf is on empty plastic boxes and I put lightweight stuff on it in case of earthquake.
Sorry for the mess, I am working on another project on the other side of the room
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@ fivefish, really impressive lab. What are your krk ref monitors?
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@ fivefish, really impressive lab. What are your krk ref monitors?
They're 1st-gen KRK RP8 monitors, had them since 2007/8?
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I had some 8 foot plywood boards that I used as shelves. The shelves sit on the book shelves. On the top shelve I zip tied a metal rod and to this I zipped tied a Costco LED light. I think the whole thing was less than $150 including the light.
I hope that top board doesn't come crashing down on your head some day LOL. :(
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I put my together my workbench starting with a Costco folding table and two Costco shelves used at the ends of the table at 90 degrees.
I had some 8 foot plywood boards that I used as shelves. The shelves sit on the book shelves. On the top shelve I zip tied a metal rod and to this I zipped tied a Costco LED light. I think the whole thing was less than $150 including the light.
2x12s could be used as shelves. No tools needed. :)
The only fasteners I used were zip ties, so very easy to take apart. The top shelf is on empty plastic boxes and I put lightweight stuff on it in case of earthquake.
Sorry for the mess, I am working on another project on the other side of the room
Looks good.
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As I had to tidy up my desk a bit for a small batch of boards, I thought it would be the right time to take a picture of my relatively tidy desk...
Due to serious lack of space (my entire electronics room is a mere 3.2 Metres x 1.6 Metres - About 10x5 feet in American money), I have to keep things as compact as possible. There's a further desk to the left for my PC and test area. On the right there's a desk with my SMD oven, a drill jig and circular saw for PCB cutting.
McBryce.
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As I had to tidy up my desk a bit for a small batch of boards, I thought it would be the right time to take a picture of my relatively tidy desk...
Well use of a small space. :-+
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As I had to tidy up my desk a bit for a small batch of boards, I thought it would be the right time to take a picture of my relatively tidy desk...
Due to serious lack of space (my entire electronics room is a mere 3.2 Metres x 1.6 Metres - About 10x5 feet in American money), I have to keep things as compact as possible. There's a further desk to the left for my PC and test area. On the right there's a desk with my SMD oven, a drill jig and circular saw for PCB cutting.
McBryce.
What kind of microscope is that? I have been thinking about a cheap stereo scope
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What kind of microscope is that? I have been thinking about a cheap stereo scope
Looks a lot like a Bresser Biorit ICD CS (http://www.bresser.de/en/Microscopes-Magnifiers/Bresser-Biorit-ICD-CS-Stereo-Microscope.html).
I think it's actually a Chinese model - a very similar microscope is also sold as the AmScope SE400-Z (http://www.amscope.com/10x-20x-led-binocular-stereo-microscope-boom-arm-with-gooseneck-light.html).
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That should be a Bresser 58-02520 http://it.rs-online.com/web/p/microscopi/7187337/ (http://it.rs-online.com/web/p/microscopi/7187337/)
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That should be a Bresser 58-02520 http://it.rs-online.com/web/p/microscopi/7187337/ (http://it.rs-online.com/web/p/microscopi/7187337/)
That is the Bresser Biorit ICD CS. Read the first line of the description.
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sorry, I received the new message notification at page 28 (link (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg742839/#msg742839)), just before your message which is the first on page 29 and I posted without jumping at the last message. Nevermind. :-//
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Yes, correctly guessed, it's a Bresser Biorit ICD CS. A great Microscope for the price. Comfortable to use, the right height to work/solder under and the extension means you can work on relatively large PCBs with it.
McBryce.
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PIC Programmer: PICkit2
Oscilloscope: B&K precision 2540
USB Logic analyzer: USBee SX
PowerSupply: Old Computer ATX PSU, +5v 15amp, +12v 6amp, -12v 0.3 amp, -5v 0.3 amp
DMM: Some Cheap meter from lowes.
DMM: Some Cheap meter from radio-shack.
Soldering irons: Cheap ESD 15Watt, Cheap 30Wat, And a ECG 45watt De-soldering iron
Breadboard: about 5000 contacts
And a small collection of parts.
The bench is a bit of a mess.
The room is about 8feet by 10feet, and this room is my bed room, I sleep over-top of the work-bench.
I live in a single wide mobile home.
+1 :-+ I used to live in a single wide and surprised you pulled this off
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That should be a Bresser 58-02520 http://it.rs-online.com/web/p/microscopi/7187337/ (http://it.rs-online.com/web/p/microscopi/7187337/)
That is the Bresser Biorit ICD CS. Read the first line of the description.
Just for completeness, here's the other stuff in the picture, from left to right:
Left: Peaktech 4080 20Mhz Func-gen. Agilent DSO3062. Tektronix 2465. These aren't floating in the air, they are mounted on a swing-arm that was meant for old CRT Monitors. The stuff below is a few random PCBs I'm working on, an EPROM eraser and resistor and capacitor decades from Gerry Sweeney (Thanks Gerry).
Middle: Rigol MSO1104Z-S, below is a Chinese solder bath, Biorit ICD CS, cheap Conrad Iron (crap, but it has a massive thermal mass for soldering big things :) ), some Proxxon screwdrivers, Ersa iCon Nano with fume extractor above it.
Right: Peaktech LCR Meter (not sure which model), ZD-939 - Chinese hot air rework station (cheap but does the job), Keithley 2000 and Rigol DP832.
McBryce.
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Found a B&W image of my home lab about 1985-1986 or thirty_ish years ago.
Guess the test gear.. and camera used to make this image.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_8FycWPkDV8/VeK2P5shp8I/AAAAAAAACLE/8ALMOkZhH0w/s2048-Ic42/Nici%252520Home%252520Lab%2525201980%252527s.jpg)
Bernice
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Nice photo! Taken with a 4x5 large format camera and a 90mm Super-Angulon?
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Found a B&W image of my home lab about 1985-1986 or thirty_ish years ago.
Bernice
That must have been an amazing lab in those years.
The original Tektronix "Scope Mobile Cart Model 3" was more expensive then a Tektronix scope today.
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Looks like a Polaroid Instamatic film, with the peel of back.
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Stab in the dark, a Minolta XG-M; Ilford film, IIRC they made the best B&W film in those days.
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Found a B&W image of my home lab about 1985-1986 or thirty_ish years ago.
Guess the test gear..
The scope on the cart is a 7834.
Plugins are two 7A19 amplifiers (with the variable delay option), 7B85 and 7B80 timebases.
$20,000+ in that one mainframe, at 1985 prices.
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Found a B&W image of my home lab about 1985-1986 or thirty_ish years ago.
Guess the test gear.. and camera used to make this image.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_8FycWPkDV8/VeK2P5shp8I/AAAAAAAACLE/8ALMOkZhH0w/s2048-Ic42/Nici%252520Home%252520Lab%2525201980%252527s.jpg)
Bernice
I love it especially the Tek scope.
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How much of that do you still own?
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Most, not all.
Starting from the left of the Tek 7834 on the cart:
hp 3575A Gain Phase meter, it's long gone. It was replaced with a early hp 3570A & 3330B network analyzer rig, eventually replaced by hp 3577A, most recently hp 3577B.
Krohn Hite 4100A push button oscillator, long gone. It had low distortion and was a good pushbutton freq select oscillator.
On the Tek Lab3 cart, 7834-2x 7A19 with delay option, 7B80, 7B85. Still have this and never needed any service all those decades. During this time this O'scope was used to look at one shot nanosecond events related to timing for 16/22 bit sampling A/D converters made by Analogic as part of a project I was working back then (a really good DSO does a better job today). The timing was critical as there were more than one of these converters involved. These measurements involved sub nanosecond & microvolt performance. Until one works with stuff like this, the appreciation of what it takes to make systems like this work really well can be easily taken for granted.
Below the Tek 7834, Tek TM504 with DM501A, FG501A, PG501 and freq counter. The frequency counter is long gone, the others share a TM503 as needed. None of these needed any more than normal cal-check over decades of service.
The bottom lives the other Tek 7000 plug-ins. 7A14 current probe plug-in, 7A22, 2x 7A26, 7A13 all still in service to this day. In the Lab3 cart drawer is a pile-O-probes and stuff.
Lurking behind the Tek lab3 cart is a Tek 547, 1A4, 1A5, 1A7A, P6042 that would be used when the 7834 was not needed to both would appear if both were needed.
On the bottom shelf:
2x hp 3400A (TRMS voltmeter), hp 400E (AC voltmeter), hp 427A, hp (volts-ohm meter), hp 4332A (LCR meter), hp 5210A (freq meter used as a FM discriminator for the 141T), Keithley 175 DVM, Krohn Hite 2200 ( used a LOT, output stages abused-died more than once and shorted tant caps on occasion) all still in service today except for the hp 3565A which is parked.
Top shelf:
hp in-house test fixture isolated variac with meters for current & volts and 0-140VAC + 0 to 280VAC outlets. These were never sold but used within hp as needed. hp 3569B DVM have several of these, the AC volts goes to 10Mhz and more (parked in storage with the others). On the end is a Boonton 71A LC meter, full scale from 1pF to 1000pF, 1uH to 1000uH has DC bias at the test terminals and meter off to allow use with a recorder or system The test freq is 1Mhz, very accurate, stable over time and used fire bottles. This 71A has never given any trouble over all these decades of service. There is a hp 8600A marker/counter used with the hp8601A, both are long gone.
In the foreground of the table top is a hp 141T system with several plug-ins from 20 Hz to 18.6 Ghz, tracking generator (not in this pix). The 141T system (cost more than the Tek 7834 system on the cart back then) is long gone, replaced with hp 8569A and recently 8566B. There was a hp 8410A network analyzer in process and a Boonton 250A that does not appear as it was too far off to the side.
There was a LOT of test gear, parts and much more not seen in this image.
Today, much has been passed on or upgraded as technology and work related requires it.
This was one of the perks of being in Silicon Valley back in those days and having family at hp. Back then computing were institutional items, Apple was just a bud, Silicon chip fab was cranking full till. National Semi was the analog leader, Linear Technology was just starting, Fairchild was nearly dead, hewlett packard in it's hey-day, Tek in it's hey-day, Wavetak, Systron Donner and a host of other instrumentation companies were really going. Most of SV was military, RF-microwave, Instrumentation or chip fab. The Foothill Flea was were all this stuff and more would appear as a parking lot sale. Land and houses were still reasonable, Fruit Orchards were still selling fruit at their side walk stands..
Much of this stuff was purchased at the Foothill Flea, hp employee auctions, local surplus dealers.. There was just SO much of this back then. Many of the instruments needed fixing in various ways. So much can be learned from fixing and keeping this stuff in service and in cal. I have lost count of what instruments have passed my way over the years. There is a file cabinet full of service manual of most instruments that have passed my way over the years. Documentation was gold back then before most of these service manuals were on the web today.
Image was made using a Sinar 5x7 view camera, think the lens was a Rodenstock 115mm f6.8 Grandagon, film is Kodak T-Max 400. Hint to this is found on the upper right hand corner as sheet film notches noting film type, image proportions would identify this image as 5x7.
Been at this for too long.
Bernice
How much of that do you still own?
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jack P
Thanks for the buck fifty tour
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Wow, amazing! Thanks for that, Bernice!
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[snip: tour of Smaug's and Aladdin's treasures combined]
This was one of the perks of being in Silicon Valley back in those days and having family at hp. Back then computing were institutional items, Apple was just a bud, Silicon chip fab was cranking full till. National Semi was the analog leader, Linear Technology was just starting, Fairchild was nearly dead, hewlett packard in it's hey-day, Tek in it's hey-day, Wavetak, Systron Donner and a host of other instrumentation companies were really going. Most of SV was military, RF-microwave, Instrumentation or chip fab. The Foothill Flea was were all this stuff and more would appear as a parking lot sale. Land and houses were still reasonable, Fruit Orchards were still selling fruit at their side walk stands..
Much of this stuff was purchased at the Foothill Flea, hp employee auctions, local surplus dealers.. There was just SO much of this back then. Many of the instruments needed fixing in various ways. So much can be learned from fixing and keeping this stuff in service and in cal. I have lost count of what instruments have passed my way over the years. There is a file cabinet full of service manual of most instruments that have passed my way over the years. Documentation was gold back then before most of these service manuals were on the web today.
This was why I spent most of my working life feeling quite sad about living in Australia (and being poor.) This was the kind of equipment I could only dream about, only ever saw in pictures. And why in recent years I still indulge an urge to buy/obtain that kind of old test gear - it's compensation for earlier deprivation and this seems like a perfectly good reason to me. Also I love the wonderful manuals that are as awesome as the gear itself. (Not nearly so awesome in crappy low-res poorly scanned and awkward to read on-screen web copies!)
I'm intensely jealous. Also would like to say, please don't ever throw out that file cabinet of manuals. They are much more historically precious than many people like to believe. If you did suddenly need the space, please contact me. guykd at optusnet.com.au I can arrange reasonably affordable shipping to Oz.
Thanks for the tour!
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That file cabinet of service manuals and the other over stuffed book shelf of data books are going no where. These are valuable archives of not only devices from years gone by, they are part of the history of science and technology. There are data books going back to the early 1970's and to the time when semi companies mostly stopped publishing them. Each year at work, there would be a boxes of new data books that would appear. Some would stay at work, some followed me home. Service manuals would appear at the swap and lease where, they would not sell for much at all and often service manuals would appear by the box full and the seller insisted on the buyer taking the entire box, not just one.
There are a number of independent cal labs in and near SV that have very extensive libraries of service manuals. They offer paper copies upon request with a modest fee. Many of the more popular instruments from that era can be found on the web, but not any where near all that was available from that time. Much the same applies to semiconductor and numerous other electronics devices. This is why I have kept these vintage data books and catalogs as more often than not, this information can be so very valuable.
There is SO much that can be learned from those hewlett packard, Tektronix, Systron Donner, Gigatronics, Fluke and many other's service manuals that is not often appreciated. Some of the very best circuit and systems designers I know spent years of their youth studying what was in these service manuals and learning what made these instruments work and why. Two of well known individuals who spent a LOT of time studying these service manuals and tinkering with test gear from this era are Jim Williams & Bob Dobkin. Stories of other with a similar history can be found on the Analog footsteps blog page:
http://analogfootsteps.blogspot.com/search/label/Bob%20Dobkin (http://analogfootsteps.blogspot.com/search/label/Bob%20Dobkin)
This is the prime reason why there are often post form me about saving and repairing instrumentation from this golden era.
There is a LOT more than just the math to fully understanding how a circuit and it's environment behaves as a unit system. Spending time with these instruments can be an excellent teaching and learning experience.
The current foundation from which much of what is done in electronics today has it's foundations in these bits of history and documentation.
Maybe one day, I'll post images of my current home lab.... which includes some curious meters and related curiosities from Sensitive Research, Weston, and microscopes from Wild, Zeiss and Leitz.
Bernice
This was why I spent most of my working life feeling quite sad about living in Australia (and being poor.) This was the kind of equipment I could only dream about, only ever saw in pictures. And why in recent years I still indulge an urge to buy/obtain that kind of old test gear - it's compensation for earlier deprivation and this seems like a perfectly good reason to me. Also I love the wonderful manuals that are as awesome as the gear itself. (Not nearly so awesome in crappy low-res poorly scanned and awkward to read on-screen web copies!)
I'm intensely jealous. Also would like to say, please don't ever throw out that file cabinet of manuals. They are much more historically precious than many people like to believe. If you did suddenly need the space, please contact me. guykd at optusnet.com.au I can arrange reasonably affordable shipping to Oz.
Thanks for the tour!
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Maybe one day, I'll post images of my current home lab.... which includes some curious meters and related curiosities from Sensitive Research, Weston, and microscopes from Wild, Zeiss and Leitz.
Well now I can´t sleep anymore. Am I the only one?
Please do that.
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Well now I can´t sleep anymore. Am I the only one?
Please do that.
I guess I'm more excited to see Rupunzell's photo of his current lab..that could probably makes me even more jealous :palm:. :)
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That file cabinet of service manuals and the other over stuffed book shelf of data books are going no where. These are valuable archives of not only devices from years gone by, they are part of the history of science and technology. There are data books going back to the early 1970's and to the time when semi companies mostly stopped publishing them. Each year at work, there would be a boxes of new data books that would appear. Some would stay at work, some followed me home. Service manuals would appear at the swap and lease where, they would not sell for much at all and often service manuals would appear by the box full and the seller insisted on the buyer taking the entire box, not just one.
There are a number of independent cal labs in and near SV that have very extensive libraries of service manuals. They offer paper copies upon request with a modest fee.
Photocopies, you mean. Which may be 'usable', but are worthless in the historical sense. Nothing beats having an original.
Many of the more popular instruments from that era can be found on the web, but not any where near all that was available from that time. Much the same applies to semiconductor and numerous other electronics devices. This is why I have kept these vintage data books and catalogs as more often than not, this information can be so very valuable.
Tell me about it. From my own experiences of acquiring old gear then trying to find adequate manuals, I know very well how spotty the online archives are. (And much of what there is, are appallingly bad quality.)
Also electronics data books - this is one area in which the 'it's all online, so just dumpster your physical books' delusion is particularly active. Maybe half my library of data books are from people I knew who decided to toss theirs. I'll NEVER dump mine. They're easier to read than PDFs, you get reminded of other chips, the books are complete with lots of related stuff, and many other reasons why they are superior.
There is SO much that can be learned from those hewlett packard, Tektronix, Systron Donner, Gigatronics, Fluke and many other's service manuals that is not often appreciated. Some of the very best circuit and systems designers I know spent years of their youth studying what was in these service manuals and learning what made these instruments work and why. Two of well known individuals who spent a LOT of time studying these service manuals and tinkering with test gear from this era are Jim Williams & Bob Dobkin. Stories of other with a similar history can be found on the Analog footsteps blog page:
http://analogfootsteps.blogspot.com/search/label/Bob%20Dobkin (http://analogfootsteps.blogspot.com/search/label/Bob%20Dobkin)
This is the prime reason why there are often post form me about saving and repairing instrumentation from this golden era.
There is a LOT more than just the math to fully understanding how a circuit and it's environment behaves as a unit system. Spending time with these instruments can be an excellent teaching and learning experience.
Yes indeed, I see you are a man after my own heart.
I also have the view that these works are not just a history, but a critical resource should there be any kind of civilization glitch. Most people believe such ideas are silly, but that is just a bad case of normalcy bias. I know from my study of human history (and academic studies like Tainter's 'The collapse of complex societies') that such collapses are the norm in the human story, not the exception. Good luck using 'online pdfs' after a decade or two (or 20, or 100) of no power, fuel or technical education system.
A great deal of the technical foundation of our society has zero adequately preserved 'seed bank of knowledge.' Those service manuals from the 60s through early 90s (before the lawyers and bean counters put a stop to that) are a unique treasure, in the way they detail everything about how the instruments worked. And on paper, that can last hundreds of years if simply kept dry and safe from the elements. Which doesn't require high tech efforts, unlike say maintaining a bank of hard disks and their regular replacement.
Also, and this is very important - ink on paper can't be edited and deliberately corrupted or expunged. If it's there, it's original and true. Something that can't be relied on with digital copies. If you think deliberate 'historical revision' doesn't happen with digital media, you are not paying attention. It happens all the time with film and music for instance.
For those who were wondering why I was spitting mad about ManualsPlus being trashed, this is why. I consider that event a kind of vandalism against the foundations of civilization itself. And no, 'saving one copy of each in rented storage', while slightly better than nothing, isn't good enough. I really do think some people should be shot for the destruction of that library. Not the victims, like Becky, or the people who tried hard and did what they could with inadequate resources. But definitely the business owner, for either incompetence or deliberate acts resulting in the destruction.
Ah well. Centralization of anything is bad, since it exposes the thing to infiltration of control by those who would destroy it.
In a hundred years, it's going to be printed collections of knowledge kept safe privately by people like Rupunzell that will have made a difference.
Too bad there are so few who see the value. But I suppose that is the usual way by which things once relatively common become extremely rare (or completely lost) over time.
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Maybe one day, I'll post images of my current home lab....
Pretty please, with a cherry on top. ;D
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There is SO much that can be learned from those hewlett packard, Tektronix, Systron Donner, Gigatronics, Fluke and many other's service manuals that is not often appreciated. Some of the very best circuit and systems designers I know spent years of their youth studying what was in these service manuals and learning what made these instruments work and why. Two of well known individuals who spent a LOT of time studying these service manuals and tinkering with test gear from this era are Jim Williams & Bob Dobkin. Stories of other with a similar history can be found on the Analog footsteps blog page:
http://analogfootsteps.blogspot.com/search/label/Bob%20Dobkin (http://analogfootsteps.blogspot.com/search/label/Bob%20Dobkin)
High on my recommended books list :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Analog-Circuit-Design-Engineers/dp/0750670622/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Analog-Circuit-Design-Engineers/dp/0750670622/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Analog-Circuit-Design-Science-Personalities/dp/0750616350/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Analog-Circuit-Design-Science-Personalities/dp/0750616350/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8)
Yes, they're a bit pricey. Yes, they're worth it.
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both online in .pdf format, one at us.archive.org
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im considering setting up my gpib controlled instrumentation under my bed and running bus bars and hardline coax to my work bench and perhaps hanging some equipment from the ceiling :palm:
dynamic signal analyzer of Damocles? :-// i could hang a bunch of shit from the ceiling on a circular rail system like a gigantic tie rack with microwave generators and shit hanging off of it. meat locker style
i refuse to fall victim to sqaure footage requirements like the people here :box: its gonna be like the ISS in this mother fucker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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There is a story to how these books came to be. Many years ago Jim William & Derek Bowers put on an annual get together known as Analog Dinosaur party. These get togethers began at Jim's home and eventually moved to a larger location.
http://www.embedded.com/print/4310167 (http://www.embedded.com/print/4310167)
These books a product of these get togethers.
About 2010, These get togethers were resurrected to become Analog Aficionado.
Here is a link to some pictures from AA:
http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/Analog_Aficionados/library/2014%20Analog%20Aficionados%20by%20Ed%20Fong?sort=3&page=1 (http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/Analog_Aficionados/library/2014%20Analog%20Aficionados%20by%20Ed%20Fong?sort=3&page=1)
I'm the gal sitting next to a rather well known individual. Do look at the other pictures to get an idea of who attends this get together.
Bernice
Yes indeed, I see you are a man after my own heart.
Well now I can´t sleep anymore. Am I the only one?
Please do that.
I guess I'm more excited to see Rupunzell's photo of his current lab..that could probably makes me even more jealous :palm:. :)
High on my recommended books list :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Analog-Circuit-Design-Engineers/dp/0750670622/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Analog-Circuit-Design-Engineers/dp/0750670622/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Analog-Circuit-Design-Science-Personalities/dp/0750616350/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Analog-Circuit-Design-Science-Personalities/dp/0750616350/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8)
Yes, they're a bit pricey. Yes, they're worth it.
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After thinking about this a bit and reading the replies, pix of the current home lab will need to wait. It's of lesser value than helping others who are interested in saving-reparing-using instrumentation and related documentation from that golden era. There is an aspect of "showing off" that I'm not too motivated to do. This should not be about toy ownership, this should be about helping others and sharing knowledge and experience of how to fully apply instrumentation to get the very most form them and using them in ways that might be different than their original intent. This which is FAR more valuable than more images of stuff that is readily available on the web and else where.
I got involved with this form just under a year ago when a post appeared about why Tektronix no longer made excellent O'scopes. I took that moment to try and share some historical information and maybe promote interest in restoration, preservation and continue use of instrumentation from that golden era...which has resulted in a rather curious experience for me in many ways.
This old image of my home lab got posted for it's historical curiosity and nostalgia value. The replies and response really surprised me.
Bernice
Maybe one day, I'll post images of my current home lab.... which includes some curious meters and related curiosities from Sensitive Research, Weston, and microscopes from Wild, Zeiss and Leitz.
Well now I can´t sleep anymore. Am I the only one?
Please do that.
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... There is an aspect of "showing off" that I'm not too motivated to do ...
... This which is FAR more valuable than more images of stuff that is readily available on the web and else where.
I fully agree with you Bernice, I added you to my Buddy list...
Just showing off don´t bring you any further, just like looking at Lab pictures for a simple:"ohhhhh.. what I nice Lab... mine is so small....".
Anyway in the past 3 months I was setting up my new home Lab. Instead to put here a dumb post like:"Help me, where I need to put my scope, my power supply and my signal generator, how many shelves I need? How high?", I digged into this post. What a goldmine!
Inspired by all those pictures combined with my personal taste, I went to my friend carpenter and designed my own bench (just a simple one, don´t imagine it is like a NASA space station...), I choose the wood and sawed is to the right measure. I am now doing the fine tuning (oil free air compressor, mantis + another µScope) and I can´t wait to post the final results here not for showing off but for (maybe) inspiring other people (BTW there is a girl in my life now which is taking a lot of mine private time so it is going slow now....)
Long story short: surely this post could be interpreted as a "show off" parade, but in my experience it helped to set up my personal lab.
Please stay in this forum I need to learn a lot from you.
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Long story short: surely this post could be interpreted as a "show off" parade, but in my experience it helped to set up my personal lab.
I can't even express how true this is for me as well. It was a huge inspiration, a motivator and an assurance that I don't need to get it perfect. Thank you everyone :)
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I like these type of threads because you get to see the common gear that people have and the way that people organise their parts and workspace.
Everyone has their own way of doing things, it's interesting to see the number of different ways people come up with to do essentially the same thing.
Some people have a "professional" grade lab at home, some people have a kitchen table. Some may see showing the "pro" lab as showing off, but as an amateur I'll never see a "real" lab, so I appreciate seeing it. And frankly, if you've spent that much time and effort (and money!) setting up an environment, what's wrong with a bit of showing off?
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My showing off comment was a joke and brought about by how impressive the setup was. Disappointed that I was misunderstood.
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My showing off comment was a joke and brought about by how impressive the setup was. Disappointed that I was misunderstood.
Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
Daniel, I believe it was my lab photos where you made that comment. :) But really no worries, no harm, no foul.
I didn't take it the wrong way... maybe others did, but not me. It's all good to me.
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A gob and a bunch of good gear here from the as one poster put it "The Golden Age".
I love seeing it, wish I had more of it. I will no doubt as time goes on. :)
(you could fix the stuff. )
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Yes indeed, I see you are a man after my own heart.
I'm the gal sitting next to a rather well known individual. Do look at the other pictures to get an idea of who attends this get together.
Oops. Sorrrrry! Apart from not taking a hint from your user name (people pick all kinds of nics) I also missed noticing your name in posts several times. Apparently I'm blind.
Well, now I feel even more jealous. *Another* thing there were virtually none of in Australia in the pre-Internet era, was women active in technology. At least not in my rather information-starved no-net circles.
Added: pics below are my small collection of equipment manuals. A vertical bookshelf at left, and along a top shelf. Mostly HP & Tektronix, a few others. 90% for equipment I have, plus a few random ones for stuff I don't have, and missing manuals for some gear I do have.
Most of my tech and general books are in another building; I keep the equipment manuals here in the workshop. Though the space isn't enough and keeps getting wedged due to too much stuff piling up. I'm too ashamed to turn the camera around and show the other side of the room atm.
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Wow! It's so wonderful to know that a woman is seriously involved in doing electronics, and seems to me that women working with electronics are rare (based on my assumption). I thought your name "Bernice" belongs to a man. DIdn't had a clue with "Rupunzell" who was actually a feminine character.. :palm:
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Wow! It's so wonderful to know that a woman is seriously involved in doing electronics, and seems to me that women working with electronics are rare (based on my assumption). I thought your name "Bernice" belongs to a man. DIdn't had a clue with "Rupunzell" who was actually a feminine character.. :palm:
There are a few of us who have been in this business, I am not an EE just a lowly RF tech, loving it more than anything else in my life. :)
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Don't be envious or jealous of my techno material things or access to this techno stuff., they are things that all of us will loose eventually in time as everything on this earth will at some point return to the COSMOS.
Enjoy them in the here and now, save and preserve them for those in the future that can and will appreciated them for the knowledge and wisdom they contain and can offer to those who are willing to listen and spend the time and effort to understand.
Your lab and library is no small collection. It is GREAT to see technical libraries like this as it says much about the individual and their passion for what they do in life.
If more individual who are interested in this electronics stuff would spend some time with instruments and their service manuals from that golden age, I suspect there would be a much greater appreciation for just how cleaver, creative and rational some of the solutions these folks came up with for technically challenging problems that remain a fixed aspect of electronics design. There is no need to reinvent the wheel when there are examples of absolutely excellent wheels made. Be humble, learn from wisdom of the past and adapt them to current needs. This also goes a very long way towards building circuit literacy and expression of creativity via circuit design.
The very best circuit and systems designers are more creative artist than just engineering types.
Of the home labs that has surprise me, Bo Lojek, professor at University of Colorado, also works at Atmel.
http://blog.atmel.com/2013/11/08/the-home-lab-of-bo-lojek/ (http://blog.atmel.com/2013/11/08/the-home-lab-of-bo-lojek/)
This comment by Paul Rako wrinkled my brow as it does apply to more than a few folks I know,
"It does not disturb me that Lojek has a stack of early Tektronix mainframe scopes. What bothers me is I have several friends that have the same sort of stack."
If one looks carefully at the pictures in that link posted, there are pictures of Bo and others from that get together....like this one.
From Left to Right, Jim Williams, Bo and Stanford professor Tom Lee.
http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/Analog_Aficionados/media/2010_Analog/Analog-Aficionados-2010-by-Fran-Hoffart-119sfw_zpsbb1ebb72.jpg.html?sort=3&o=92 (http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/Analog_Aficionados/media/2010_Analog/Analog-Aficionados-2010-by-Fran-Hoffart-119sfw_zpsbb1ebb72.jpg.html?sort=3&o=92)
:)
Bernice
Oops. Sorrrrry! Apart from not taking a hint from your user name (people pick all kinds of nics) I also missed noticing your name in posts several times. Apparently I'm blind.
Well, now I feel even more jealous. *Another* thing there were virtually none of in Australia in the pre-Internet era, was women active in technology. At least not in my rather information-starved no-net circles.
Added: pics below are my small collection of equipment manuals. A vertical bookshelf at left, and along a top shelf. Mostly HP & Tektronix, a few others. 90% for equipment I have, plus a few random ones for stuff I don't have, and missing manuals for some gear I do have.
Most of my tech and general books are in another building; I keep the equipment manuals here in the workshop. Though the space isn't enough and keeps getting wedged due to too much stuff piling up. I'm too ashamed to turn the camera around and show the other side of the room atm.
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You're not and never will be lowly, what matters is you're following your passion and know you're doing something constructive and helpful with your time on this earth.
:-+
Bernice
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I did get this, did not want this to become a contest over who has what and who does not have that.
Too often on the web forums, discussions like this end up as keyboard wars or turf-dom over much of nothing.
Bernice
My showing off comment was a joke and brought about by how impressive the setup was. Disappointed that I was misunderstood.
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Don't be envious or jealous of my techno material things or access to this techno stuff., they are things that all of us will loose eventually in time as everything on this earth will at some point return to the COSMOS.
Enjoy them in the here and now, save and preserve them for those in the future that can and will appreciated them for the knowledge and wisdom they contain and can offer to those who are willing to listen and spend the time and effort to understand.
Actually I meant 'jealous' more as a compliment; I'm not actually consumed by covetous envy. Everything's relative, and compared to most people I know personally I'm very well off and have a treasure trove of equipment and tools. That wall in the pics is a small part of it, spread through multiple buildings. Most of which won't be shown due to general mess. Not quite up to the Bo Lojek scale, but not far short.
That said, way to make me feel more envious by demonstrating you are a woman with both technical skills AND a philosophical outlook. Rarity squared. Sadly.
As for returning to the cosmos... true. Or, in this age, perhaps not quite so utterly inevitable. http://everist.org/texts/Fermis_Urbex_Paradox.htm (http://everist.org/texts/Fermis_Urbex_Paradox.htm)
Your lab and library is no small collection. It is GREAT to see technical libraries like this as it says much about the individual and their passion for what they do in life.
If more individual who are interested in this electronics stuff would spend some time with instruments and their service manuals from that golden age, I suspect there would be a much greater appreciation for just how cleaver, creative and rational some of the solutions these folks came up with for technically challenging problems that remain a fixed aspect of electronics design. There is no need to reinvent the wheel when there are examples of absolutely excellent wheels made. Be humble, learn from wisdom of the past and adapt them to current needs. This also goes a very long way towards building circuit literacy and expression of creativity via circuit design.
As someone whose long experience has demonstrated that malign, cunning intent is actually much more common and harmful than bumbling stupidity, I tend to see the fading of principles of open design and educational, maintainable equipment as deliberate dumbing down and technical dis-empowerment of the population. My efforts to preserve what I can are done in that context. It's why I wish every beginner engineer could have access to physical originals of those old manuals. As demonstration of principles not just electronic, but also social.
The very best circuit and systems designers are more creative artist than just engineering types.
Funny story: I got into electronics at an early age for the potential for artistic creation. Life & family kind of smashed that plan, oh well.
Of the home labs that has surprise me, Bo Lojek, professor at University of Colorado, also works at Atmel.
http://blog.atmel.com/2013/11/08/the-home-lab-of-bo-lojek/ (http://blog.atmel.com/2013/11/08/the-home-lab-of-bo-lojek/)
Nice. Also, turns out to be one of those sites that for unknown reasons totally crashes the browser I normally use, so most of this reply is a re-type. :(
This comment by Paul Rako wrinkled my brow as it does apply to more than a few folks I know,
"It does not disturb me that Lojek has a stack of early Tektronix mainframe scopes. What bothers me is I have several friends that have the same sort of stack."
I don't know why it would bother him. What's wrong with collecting these fine old instruments (and their manuals)? Hmm... how many Tek 7000 frames do I have? Um... quick count: 10. Plus assorted other old scopes, and some newer. Mostly in the 'to repair' queue. As if I'll ever have the time, given other demands.
There are plenty of people with far weirder and less useful collecting hobbies.
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There are a few of us who have been in this business, I am not an EE just a lowly RF tech, loving it more than anything else in my life. :)
When it comes to anything to do with knowledge of electronics there is no such thing as "lowly"...
I admire people like you as I am simply a hobbyist with a thirst to learn, and i learn a lot from this forum and people like you who contribute.
Thank you AF6LJ.
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There are a few of us who have been in this business, I am not an EE just a lowly RF tech, loving it more than anything else in my life. :)
When it comes to anything to do with knowledge of electronics there is no such thing as "lowly"...
I admire people like you as I am simply a hobbyist with a thirst to learn, and i learn a lot from this forum and people like you who contribute.
Thank you AF6LJ.
That is how I started out, it is still my hobby, my love.
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:)
I have had a wonderful career
You're not and never will be lowly, what matters is you're following your passion and know you're doing something constructive and helpful with your time on this earth.
:-+
Bernice
There are a few of us who have been in this business, I am not an EE just a lowly RF tech, loving it more than anything else in my life. :)
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apart from noticing Bernices nic and posting her name on posts, I also noticed some of her pics have the name Nici on them when saved, But I tend to look at the pics and observe that the tidy workshops may belong to a woman more than a male seeing as how women seem to be tidier more organised people in the main ( well my ex always put my stuff in cupboards where i could never find them so blame her for that ).
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I got involved with this form just under a year ago when a post appeared about why Tektronix no longer made excellent O'scopes. I took that moment to try and share some historical information and maybe promote interest in restoration, preservation and continue use of instrumentation from that golden era...which has resulted in a rather curious experience for me in many ways.
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Bernice
Hello Bernice, These posts were before you joined so I thought you might enjoy the links below.
tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration/msg172135/#msg172135)
hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration/msg261499/#msg261499)
3410A ac-microvoltmeter restore (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-3410a-ac-microvoltmeter-restoration/msg433969/#msg433969)
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Thank you for sharing those, I love to see equipment like that taken care of and rehabilitated.
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tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration/msg172135/#msg172135)
hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration/msg261499/#msg261499)
3410A ac-microvoltmeter restore (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-3410a-ac-microvoltmeter-restoration/msg433969/#msg433969)
I saw them 1000 times and sent the link to friends, but everytime I look into them it´s like the first time and my jaw falls on the ground.
robrenz I hope everything is well and your projects are running fine.
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I got involved with this form just under a year ago when a post appeared about why Tektronix no longer made excellent O'scopes. I took that moment to try and share some historical information and maybe promote interest in restoration, preservation and continue use of instrumentation from that golden era...which has resulted in a rather curious experience for me in many ways.
.......
Bernice
Hello Bernice, These posts were before you joined so I thought you might enjoy the links below.
tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration/msg172135/#msg172135)
hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration/msg261499/#msg261499)
3410A ac-microvoltmeter restore (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-3410a-ac-microvoltmeter-restoration/msg433969/#msg433969)
That shit should be banned. Pornographic. :-+
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As soon as I can find the power cord (or maybe I just won't wait) I plan on doing a teardown of my Tek 321A
Not only does it still work it works quite well.
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Here is mine - my work bench in the military.
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TerraHertz:
Actually I meant 'jealous' more as a compliment; I'm not actually consumed by covetous envy. Everything's relative, and compared to most people I know personally I'm very well off and have a treasure trove of equipment and tools. That wall in the pics is a small part of it, spread through multiple buildings. Most of which won't be shown due to general mess. Not quite up to the Bo Lojek scale, but not far short.
*Question is, how many folks invoked in electronics collect, restore and are invoked with technology to this degree?
That said, way to make me feel more envious by demonstrating you are a woman with both technical skills AND a philosophical outlook. Rarity squared. Sadly.
*I'll PM a pix to you in this regard. The electronics is part of my overall interest in science & technology & the humanities. There are too many involved in electronics that are narrowly focused on a specific area of electronics or similar technology, yet there is far more than just what they are focused on including art, literature, biology, cosmology, physics and all other aspects of humanity. Consider this:
EGO = 1/knowledge
As for returning to the cosmos... http://everist.org/texts/Fermis_Urbex_Paradox.htm (http://everist.org/texts/Fermis_Urbex_Paradox.htm)
*I'm going to read this, give it some thought and reply.
As someone whose long experience has demonstrated that malign, cunning intent is actually much more common and harmful than bumbling stupidity, I tend to see the fading of principles of open design and educational, maintainable equipment as deliberate dumbing down and technical dis-empowerment of the population. My efforts to preserve what I can are done in that context. It's why I wish every beginner engineer could have access to physical originals of those old manuals. As demonstration of principles not just electronic, but also social.
*Goes back to classical liberal arts education. Great and enduring designs are a result of making the an amicable and symbiotic deal with nature. To do this means a deep understanding and appreciation of both the ways of nature and humanity.
"The very best circuit and systems designers are more creative artist than just engineering types."
Funny story: I got into electronics at an early age for the potential for artistic creation. Life & family kind of smashed that plan, oh well.
*Electronics can absolutely be used as artistic expression. There are more than a few who are doing this today.
I don't know why it would bother him. What's wrong with collecting these fine old instruments (and their manuals)? Hmm... how many Tek 7000 frames do I have? Um... quick count: 10. Plus assorted other old scopes, and some newer. Mostly in the 'to repair' queue. As if I'll ever have the time, given other demands.
There are plenty of people with far weirder and less useful collecting hobbies.
*That was more of a complement on how many of Paul's friends appreciate much the same things. Turns out, there are items of instrumentation that are greatly appreciated by many making ownership common among that group.
:)
Bernice
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Hello Bernice, These posts were before you joined so I thought you might enjoy the links below.
tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration/msg172135/#msg172135)
hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration/msg261499/#msg261499)
3410A ac-microvoltmeter restore (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-3410a-ac-microvoltmeter-restoration/msg433969/#msg433969)
GREAT stuff to see instrumentation like this being restored to pristine condition.
Suggestion, it might be a good thing for this forum to add a section that related directly to restoration, repair and calibration of specific instruments. This can aid others who are interest restoration, repair, maintenance and calibration of these classic instruments from that golden era.
Some time ago, a repair was done on a Tek 620 monitor. There was no service manual on hand and a web search returned a page that illustrated what another has done to repair a similar problem with a section of that problem area. Turns out the problem-failure is a result of a design Ooops. In return, I made some suggestions to the keeper of that web page, he added it to the web page;
http://golddredgervideo.com/kc0wox/tek/620/ (http://golddredgervideo.com/kc0wox/tek/620/)
Bernice
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As soon as I can find the power cord (or maybe I just won't wait) I plan on doing a teardown of my Tek 321A
Not only does it still work it works quite well.
One of those Tektronix specific power cords with the right angle connectors with totally non-standard pin configuration. Tek 321A originated from the Tek 315, their first great small portable designed by Dick Ropiequet, John Kobbe and Jim Morrow who introduced the idea of coaxial controls. This was the beginnings of the Tek 300 series and Tek's effort to make smaller O'scopes.
Bernice
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As soon as I can find the power cord (or maybe I just won't wait) I plan on doing a teardown of my Tek 321A
Not only does it still work it works quite well.
One of those Tektronix specific power cords with the right angle connectors with totally non-standard pin configuration. Tek 321A originated from the Tek 315, their first great small portable designed by Dick Ropiequet, John Kobbe and Jim Morrow who introduced the idea of coaxial controls. This was the beginnings of the Tek 300 series and Tek's effort to make smaller O'scopes.
Bernice
It is a very cool scope, I do have that power cord, the AC version. The temptation is strong to get the Ten, or is it a Dozen size D rechargeable batteries for it, :) Just for fun.
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Hello Bernice, These posts were before you joined so I thought you might enjoy the links below.
tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/tek-7603-scope-w-7a18-amp-7b53a-timebase-restoration/msg172135/#msg172135)
hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-6114a-precision-power-supply-restoration/msg261499/#msg261499)
3410A ac-microvoltmeter restore (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-3410a-ac-microvoltmeter-restoration/msg433969/#msg433969)
GREAT stuff to see instrumentation like this being restored to pristine condition.
Suggestion, it might be a good thing for this forum to add a section that related directly to restoration, repair and calibration of specific instruments. This can aid others who are interest restoration, repair, maintenance and calibration of these classic instruments from that golden era.
Some time ago, a repair was done on a Tek 620 monitor. There was no service manual on hand and a web search returned a page that illustrated what another has done to repair a similar problem with a section of that problem area. Turns out the problem-failure is a result of a design Ooops. In return, I made some suggestions to the keeper of that web page, he added it to the web page;
http://golddredgervideo.com/kc0wox/tek/620/ (http://golddredgervideo.com/kc0wox/tek/620/)
Bernice
A thread along this lines does exist and has recently been pinned in the Repair board:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/vintageclassic-renovation-techniques/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/vintageclassic-renovation-techniques/)
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It is a very cool scope, I do have that power cord, the AC version. The temptation is strong to get the Ten, or is it a Dozen size D rechargeable batteries for it, :) Just for fun.
Battery powered = floating.
Consider what can be done with a floating O'scope.
Yes, put in 10 D cells and try it.
Bernice
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Some time ago, a repair was done on a Tek 620 monitor. There was no service manual on hand and a web search returned a page that illustrated what another has done to repair a similar problem with a section of that problem area. Turns out the problem-failure is a result of a design Ooops. In return, I made some suggestions to the keeper of that web page, he added it to the web page;
http://golddredgervideo.com/kc0wox/tek/620/ (http://golddredgervideo.com/kc0wox/tek/620/)
Great! I have a 620 (and the manual.) Currently working, but article filed for future ref.
I'll PM a pix to you in this regard. The electronics is part of my overall interest in science & technology & the humanities. There are too many involved in electronics that are narrowly focused on a specific area of electronics or similar technology, yet there is far more than just what they are focused on including art, literature, biology, cosmology, physics and all other aspects of humanity. Consider this: EGO = 1/knowledge
We'd have a lot to talk about.
Looking forward to the pic. Still not clear to me why you decided not to post your workshop view here.
I suppose you may like a photo tour of my junkpile. Lucky I've started spring cleaning then.
Btw, with that F.U.P. story, bear in mind that at the beginning the style is deliberately dry and abstract. It's a necessary consequence of the plot. Some people get turned off.
And now, for everyone's gruesome entertainment a photo of what was UNDER my workbench. Well on the floor of the whole room really. It's spring, I'm cleaning up, and since during winter I use a wood fired slow combustion heater and the firewood gets piled around the place, there's no point at all in sweeping up.
So, sweep up your workshop. How horrible is the resulting dustpile? Mine is a combination of wood bits, dust, ash, leaves blown in, dirt walked in, cat hair, and bits of my own long beard for binder. This is just 'cleaning phase 1', by broom out of pity for the vacuum cleaner.
This from one room - the main electronics area. The mechanical workshop.... let's not think about that yet.
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It is a very cool scope, I do have that power cord, the AC version. The temptation is strong to get the Ten, or is it a Dozen size D rechargeable batteries for it, :) Just for fun.
Battery powered = floating.
Consider what can be done with a floating O'scope.
Yes, put in 10 D cells and try it.
Bernice
Indeed There were times I wish I had a battery powered O Scope, Now I have one. :)
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Well I am upgrading my gear by rolling my own, and my designs will (almost) always have a USB interface for automation. GPIB is out of my reach so too bad.
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Just moved to a new place, and finally got room for a proper workbench.
2400x800mm of lovely cnc'ed plywood, and I still need more room ;D
(https://vinorum.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2015-10-01-21.42.24-2.jpg)
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Just moved to a new place, and finally got room for a proper workbench.
2400x800mm of lovely cnc'ed plywood, and I still need more room ;D
(https://vinorum.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2015-10-01-21.42.24-2.jpg)
Very nice, nice scope as well.
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2400x800mm of lovely cnc'ed plywood, and I still need more room ;D
Some shelves would work wonders to help keep the table surface clear. ;)
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Some shelves would work wonders to help keep the table surface clear. ;)
Yeah, shelves will be appearing where the printer is (to the left) quite soon ;) I considered building shelves to put on top of the desk as well, but that would take up a bit more CNC-time than I'm comfortable with borrowing from work, so these will be off-the shelf shelves instead.
The main reason I chose this location for the desk is the active ventilation in the vent above the computer. It has an adjustable and quite powerful fan, so I might run a duct down to the solder station.
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Kjetil,
Very clean setup :-+
For those that have not seen I posted a video of all my junk here in this thread.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/other-blog-specific/a-video-tour-around-my-old-time-shop-and-ham-shack/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/other-blog-specific/a-video-tour-around-my-old-time-shop-and-ham-shack/)
But since this is the official "What's your workbench/lab looks like"
Here it is for those that missed that thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LPcLAkhdFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LPcLAkhdFE)
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That's lots of cool gear Radio Tech ;)
I did some rearranging of the desk.
Added some LED-tape (5050 smd's) to give a nice illumination both from above and the sides of the work area, as well as a shelf for storing gear I use less often.
(https://vinorum.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/DSC_6298.jpg)
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More pictures can be found in below album
https://goo.gl/photos/HXmewnCtsexgZ6Mz9 (https://goo.gl/photos/HXmewnCtsexgZ6Mz9)
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My new lab:
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Tables were made out of old windows frames >:D >:D :box:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/VOLxuoxAC4lJjCtbTuUM1PmT7EkPkHEhcCLzOh8YpFYoi6k0luDl6D9fUWZWtqPbrxeuagLBbpV4QcafW3MCWM85vocwfstudHWh5vNiIYAlROcuC_3ZC-dksxRU7_EBusKeiZbzvj6OcXpaKSfmuUDtJ8w0xexHllBl-Imn6eEQRQ58Sso_hY6BTVGGDuKfMo4ohE3tbkXHM5d7dqXWKJqn2xAgGvU2WwYJwun2CTGVWmgIhpg_1DGs13FFpRJWfMm3hop1gDi4Uj_ry-vJEvltrEIr1XVZQORN22dghVkyt55eSXKwvUQFMm7Agql-F3S9F_qwv73hdOr472aibHcHT28Rzm6wtqcal6gOtJP7cDzQSF42qxw2rwlkitRHWY9pOze6F2w1lId-kHkqSplYn6mi5ceyp4ZU9orvw14wuibCo5Pes9qJ6Kn1WfwaWFpCFSSdwAtSpVLjxapQblRSpiRuaYWGiT4fxCcOwVg7AVGtW5Om4eHp7lZdSmnV4HM1sKGRezfDTGL6Z4lQhPBKvOz8xOAc7gf3zsWNOos=w387-h290-no)
More pictures can be found in below album
https://goo.gl/photos/HXmewnCtsexgZ6Mz9 (https://goo.gl/photos/HXmewnCtsexgZ6Mz9)
Movie from today's cleaning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjkKhHQ0g8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjkKhHQ0g8)
Cleaning Time Lapse - bench still needs to be cleaned, but this was left for tomorrow ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPHZaZ6-hmo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPHZaZ6-hmo)
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And my old lab
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I have just finished a major overhaul of my desks + mains distribution. Almost 20 years ago my father build a large U shaped desk for me. When I moved I took it apart and tailored it to fit my new house in an L configuration (still 720cm long in total!). One of the problems with it was that the desk tops where screwed onto the frame from the top side leaving screw heads bare and after the move several holes where not longer needed. At the underside of the desks I had fitted cable trunking and mains outlets (about 110 in total in several strings). Because the edges of the desktops started to deteriorate (sharp edges), the outlets started to wear out and some projects require more power than I felt comfortable running through the strings of outlets I decided to upgrade my desks.
The first order of business was to get more power. So besides the outlet already available in my office I also brought the mains group the washing machine is on into my office to have 2 mains groups in total which could theoretically allow me to consume up to 7kW. Because the washing machine isn't behind a GFI I bought an extra breaker box and GFI for my protection:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5742/21931194901_c80abef367_c.jpg)
The next step was to order new desk tops. This took a couple of months due to the summer holiday. This did give me time to get rid of most excess junk. I still needed to move a lot of stuff though. Getting there with moving stuff out:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/781/21895307616_a2dbd801d8_c.jpg)
More holes than Swiss cheese:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/591/21921461405_ce56295f34_n.jpg)
Desktops removed and cable trunking kept at the right position:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/646/21733421030_dc20877dba_c.jpg)
Nico's top tip: keep a slit at the end of the desk so you can run cables from the rear of the desk instead of from the front:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5758/21931191421_ed594b85c2_c.jpg)
By the way: I did contemplate to put the outlets on the wall so the desktops would be easier to replace but decided not to do that because it would make the wall look cluttered. Besides that I hope the new desk tops will last 20 years as well.
Electric gear (excluding 14 extension blocks with 6 outlets each). I opted to use the heavy duty wire connectors because these are more reliable under high loads. The original wiring of my house has been fitted with these as well.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/731/21895304876_22504b2aa9_c.jpg)
The black outlets are intended for use with the washing machine group so I can divide the load without having the guess which is which.
Fitting and mounting as much as possible with the desktop turned upside down. Everything I don't mount now I have to mount while lying on my back with my arms stretched to the sky.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/758/21895304266_d3d0a3dc72_c.jpg)
Yeah lets put some glue on those extension blocks before mounting them:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/577/21733622508_e33c08678c_z.jpg)
The electricity back on:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5766/21734589109_11d330ea50_z.jpg)
Some of the wiring:
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5710/21895302356_af2cd93eac_z.jpg)
All in all this job took me little over two days (with some little things to finish though). Hopefully it will last another 20 years. Hauling three 240cm x 80cm 25mm thick desk tops up two stairs isn't fun.
edit: fixed picture!
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Nico's top tip: keep a slit at the end of the desk so you can run cables from the rear of the desk instead of from the front:
If you put a lip just before the back, it will stop screws and things falling down the back.
Would be nice to chamfer the front edge, easier to lean on.
Not sure I like the power sockets upside down under the desk. Seems like a pain to get at.
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Nico's top tip: keep a slit at the end of the desk so you can run cables from the rear of the desk instead of from the front:
If you put a lip just before the back, it will stop screws and things falling down the back.
That is much less of a problem that you'd expect. It is very rare for something to fall off at the back of my desk.
Would be nice to chamfer the front edge, easier to lean on.
Not sure I like the power sockets upside down under the desk. Seems like a pain to get at.
This is why I have some mains chords hanging over the frame. I can grab them quickly to connect a device. There are so many outlets that they would barely fit on the wall in one row (over the length of the desk).
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Since I have risers bolted to the back of my bench for the adjustable shelves, I added a couple of cross braces to attach 3 of the four 6 outlet surge protectors to them. The 4th is attached to the front of the bench. Mine have 2 rows of 3 so not nearly as long and the spacing is enough for wall warts. Nctnico, it appears to me that the legs are attached with only 1 screw. Is that my vision going bad? If not, why only 1 screw? I used 2 at each attachment point of the frame for mine so there is no movement. Mine is actually built with glue and framing nails from a framing nail gun. It is not meant to be taken apart.
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There are 2 screws in each leg (or an L shaped brace in the corner). The screws go in from 2 different sides. The legs can move around a little because the frame is not high enough to provide enough stiffness to prevent movement. One of my requirements was that the frame stayed as thin as possible so a big tower PC casing would fit under it. The desktop keeps the leg from pushing through the frame. The screws which hold the legs are only serving to keep the legs in place. My dad and I traditionally use screws in any wooden structure ;)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS4oTJu75HY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS4oTJu75HY)
Some photos - Before and After
https://goo.gl/photos/HXmewnCtsexgZ6Mz9 (https://goo.gl/photos/HXmewnCtsexgZ6Mz9)
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That particle board is likely to go bad real quick. Maybe it helps to paint it if you need a cheap fix.
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Updated bench - sort of.
I got a few new pieces and had to re-arrange the bench to accomodate.
1. Keithley 2700 DMM with 20 channel input card
2. Chroma 6314 DC Electronic Load Mainframe. I got two of these and will be configuring one to do 8 channels of DC load.
3. DIY Banana breakouts for the power supplies and DC loads. I cut these with a laser to get the power IO close to my projects with sense lines and all. I can push them off to the side when they are not in use.
This is the last update of this bench. I will be building a 500ft2 room with separate design and assembly benches.
This is my daily (10 hours/day) bench. It gets the job done but just barely. Looking forward to tearing this down and building more of a proper task specific set of benches.
(https://solidcamera.box.com/shared/static/ioc10nqr9dsq5i9gg6to7x178au892rl.jpg)
My color coded manual assembly system. This has been a great way to organize manual built PCB's. It is getting retired as I get my P&P machine closer to full speed. I built many 100's of tough PCB's this way. Something like 80k parts in the last year hand placed. I will not miss it.
(https://solidcamera.box.com/shared/static/h5g8ndb2jcreuouarppa9g2uuvvdmghr.jpg)
I am always build little fixtures to make assembly and testing faster, better, easier. These little guys have been great. My power supplies and DC loads have screw terminals. These consolidate the them into easy clusters that I can plug into.
(https://solidcamera.box.com/shared/static/9cv17og58qu94ehwspaxwj4usjr4qfn8.jpg)
(https://solidcamera.box.com/shared/static/3iuny8p2wgur3x8evhpizhjiku3lhwum.jpg)
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That looks like a crammed bench.
What I notice in general is that people try to cram all their test equipment and PC(s) in a very small space. In most cases you don't need all the test equipment together. Most of my test equipment is stored on a shelve or a cabinet and I only put the equipment I need on my bench. This also makes it easy to have 2 or 3 work areas with seperate projects and their specific equipment needs.
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That looks like a crammed bench.
What I notice in general is that people try to cram all their test equipment and PC(s) in a very small space. In most cases you don't need all the test equipment together. Most of my test equipment is stored on a shelve or a cabinet and I only put the equipment I need on my bench. This also makes it easy to have 2 or 3 work areas with seperate projects and their specific equipment needs.
It is definitely crammed, but I use all the pieces every day. Plus those PSU's, DC load, scope, etc. are VERY big and heavy. They are all GPIB connected. Moving the pieces around is a massive pain. All the extra gear is on a shelf - what you see is the minimum daily requirement.
I have enough room to get through the day - but the only way for more space is to get more space. That is why I am building 3 benches that will be more task oriented. I have to wait until the room is built first though. It is nice to have all options at the ready when I am shaking down a design and writing code. I have the DUT, PC, and all the test gear going full speed during those missions. For assembly mode, the PC is critical. During start-up and programming all the gear gets some action. When a problem is discovered, I have the paste dispenser, hot air, and soldering gear a mere hand movement away which saves time.
Obviously lots of possible improvements are possible but only incremental since I have to keep the PCB's shipping daily. Two years ago, it was the same bench with a Fluke 87 and a Weller WES51 soldering station.
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That looks like a crammed bench.
What I notice in general is that people try to cram all their test equipment and PC(s) in a very small space. In most cases you don't need all the test equipment together. Most of my test equipment is stored on a shelve or a cabinet and I only put the equipment I need on my bench. This also makes it easy to have 2 or 3 work areas with seperate projects and their specific equipment needs.
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/bench-oct-2015.jpg)
It would drive me nuts having to move and plug equipment in for every different project. My bench has enough workspace for most projects and deep enough to allow smaller equipment along the back with heavier and larger gear I would never want to move going above. Anything requiring the use of a microscope is done at a separate workstation.
Still have plenty of other equipment that is not used as often that gets pulled out once in a while like breadboards, hand held meters, etc.
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When you live in an apartment space is at a premium so my bench is dual use. The laptop can easily be removed when working on a project.
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Really nice both of you, good looking benches.
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Rearranged my bench since i acquired a ds1054z and a fluke 116. Really happy with the setup.
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Really nice both of you, good looking benches.
Thank you! ;D
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Finally able to add my own to the list,
I start this with the premise that i was asked to get a shed to work in, But i wanted something semi mobile, moderately air tight when closed, and with walls strong enough to hang anything i pleased off, with a preference to something already built, Which leads to the image...
So off I drive to another state to pick this up because I'm enough of a cheap bastard to do a 2 day road trip if it means i save a few thousand dollars,
Spent last weekend adding the power and skylights, 5 dual outlets spaced roughly 1m apart from one another and because i am very paranoid about getting electrocuted when no one else is around, all power runs through 2 RCD's, a per outlet one, and a master, on the middle of the left hand wall we have all my component draws, filled with just about any resistor capacitor transistor or logic family you could dream of,
There is a front and rear bench, yet to divy up there roles, and have been trying to work around the wheel gauge to push them side by side, Also yet to add most of my gear, but happy to have it so want to show it off,
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3. DIY Banana breakouts for the power supplies and DC loads. I cut these with a laser to get the power IO close to my projects with sense lines and all. I can push them off to the side when they are not in use.
I am always build little fixtures to make assembly and testing faster, better, easier. These little guys have been great. My power supplies and DC loads have screw terminals. These consolidate the them into easy clusters that I can plug into.
(https://solidcamera.box.com/shared/static/9cv17og58qu94ehwspaxwj4usjr4qfn8.jpg)
(https://solidcamera.box.com/shared/static/3iuny8p2wgur3x8evhpizhjiku3lhwum.jpg)
These look fantastic.
I have a hp 6050 load mainframe high in a rack on my bench and having something like this with multi core cable to break out the different channels would be brilliant.
My bench is still undergoing changes so I've not posted anything in here. Maybe I should just bite the bullet and put some photos up and then keep rearranging to see the difference.
This thread has given me so many ideas / tips and tricks for organizing benches. There is no "standard" solution, just whatever works from lots of different ideas.
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My FPGA lab just got high end... A new Kintex-7 board in the middle...
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Well, lots of really great work benches and lots of neat tricks and ideas to make one!
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Looking at all these pictures I've got a bit of an idea how I will arrange my new 'lab'. Next week I'll get the keys of my new house and the attic will be (partially) my new lab.
This lab will be one of the two 'man-cave-like' area's, the other is the garage for my oldtimer. Before I can set-up the lab, first we have to get the 'special area' ready for our own project just like Dave showed us in EEVblog #175.
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What I notice in general is that people try to cram all their test equipment and PC(s) in a very small space. In most cases you don't need all the test equipment together. Most of my test equipment is stored on a shelve or a cabinet and I only put the equipment I need on my bench. This also makes it easy to have 2 or 3 work areas with seperate projects and their specific equipment needs.
I notice this on occasion. Depending on what they're doing, this makes perfect sense. But then I see a bench with stacks of 4+ scopes. Or 12+ DMMs. And that makes me wonder if this is a bench or a showroom for nerd gear.
I quite often have to set my bench up for specific jobs and suffer some "downtime" when I can't work on something else until the other job is complete. My workbench is a multitool, in itself. I don't have room for stacks of redundant test equipment on/around my main work area. Can never have enough empty space. Doesn't help that I'm a slob. I can't post a pic of my workbench, because it looks like the Jim Williams ESD thread.
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I agree, my bench looks cluttered to those that dont see what I do. 99% of it is used every day. Right now, my bench has to accomodate anything and everything immediately. Soldering wire harnesses, PCB building, validation, repairs, etc.
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I always say: 'Clutter is only in your mind'. If you arrange the same stuff on your desk in an organised way it will look really nice but you still have the same amount of crap on your desk. The biggest trick is to have a fixed location for each item so you can store it and find it again. If a fixed location cannot be found for an item seriously consider to throw it into the bin.
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I agree, my bench looks cluttered to those that dont see what I do. 99% of it is used every day.
I wish I could get up to 30%. At least 2/3rd of my clutter is stuff I can't quite figure out how to categorize and store for later. I have tried "project oriented' boxes, but some projects are so big they can't fit in 5 boxes. So random "sorta critical" stuff might remain on the bench until needed. Some projects never get finished, so you know how that goes.
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What I notice in general is that people try to cram all their test equipment and PC(s) in a very small space. In most cases you don't need all the test equipment together. Most of my test equipment is stored on a shelve or a cabinet and I only put the equipment I need on my bench. This also makes it easy to have 2 or 3 work areas with seperate projects and their specific equipment needs.
I notice this on occasion. Depending on what they're doing, this makes perfect sense. But then I see a bench with stacks of 4+ scopes. Or 12+ DMMs. And that makes me wonder if this is a bench or a showroom for nerd gear.
I'm trying to organize my electronics workshop on the principle of having most test gear mounted in equipment racks, on roller bases. Then a few smallish benches for different work areas. The idea being to roll the appropriate racks near to the benches or in clusters as required.
But so far it isn't complete. For one thing the racks are supposed to be powered from one distribution rack, and that's not finished. Also, I still have too much floor clutter, so there isn't actually room to roll the racks around.
Well, it's a nice theory, and I'm gradually working towards giving it a fair trial. A workshop with about twice as much floor space would be better.
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A workshop with about twice as much floor space would be better.
Yes....I am crammed into a tiny space right now. Over the years, I have always had an excess of space. When I got rid of my building and moved it all into my house, it became a lot more challenging. I am in the process of finishing another 500 square feet in the next few months, but for now, I can only have one bench and no room for roll around racks which I think would be much better. My hopes and dreams for my new, bigger space keep my mind busy at night.
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Yes....I am crammed into a tiny space right now. Over the years, I have always had an excess of space. When I got rid of my building and moved it all into my house, it became a lot more challenging. I am in the process of finishing another 500 square feet in the next few months, but for now, I can only have one bench and no room for roll around racks which I think would be much better. My hopes and dreams for my new, bigger space keep my mind busy at night.
If you are doing the 'racks of gear, on rollers' thing, I hope you have a concrete floor.
It could be an extremely bad idea to do this on a timber floor. The racks get incredibly heavy, and if a roller punched through a floorboard, the rack would tip over. Damaging much gear at a minimum, and possibly killing you, worst case.
I had a close brush with death due to a rack falling over once. ---> <--- THAT close to having head crushed between fast moving and very heavy objects. No equipment damage, since the rack caught up on an adjacent structure and only went to about 25 degrees off vertical. My head had been in the space between, barely managed to jerk out of the way as the thing tipped over. Would have been squishy if I'd been slow.
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Yes! For sure, I have a seamless concrete floor that is being treated with anti-static epoxy. I know what you mean about heavy - After the 2 big linear supplies go in, the multi channel DC load, and the APC in the bottom - I am over 400lbs already without counting the rack itself. After it is all done, the "heavy" rack will probably be creeping up on 600lbs. The delicate gear, will be another rack that is far lighter for sure.
Being crushed to death by a rack of power supplies is not a great way to go.
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... and the APC in the bottom ...
Armored Personnel Carrier in your rack? No wonder it's heavy! UPS?
Another thing, just in case you didn't know - don't leave the rack weight on the rollers when you're not moving it. If you have screw-downs, use them. If not, find a way to add them. Avoids developing flats on the roller wheels, and also makes the rack safer against tipping and feel more solid.
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Armored Personnel Carrier in your rack? No wonder it's heavy! UPS?
Another thing, just in case you didn't know - don't leave the rack weight on the rollers when you're not moving it. If you have screw-downs, use them. If not, find a way to add them. Avoids developing flats on the roller wheels, and also makes the rack safer against tipping and feel more solid.
Yes, Its an APC 2200 UPS which is around 90lbs. There are two Agilent 6653A's that are around 70lbs. The Chroma DC Electronic Load system is just under 100lbs. A few other bits and pieces will add up to another 50-ish pounds.
The idea of using casters with jacks is good. It could easily sit for long periods which is not good for casters or floor. Here in CA, we have to be cautious about earthquakes as well.
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The idea of using casters with jacks is good. It could easily sit for long periods which is not good for casters or floor. Here in CA, we have to be cautious about earthquakes as well.
Where the rack doesn't have them built in, this is what I do: http://everist.org/NobLog/20130924_rack_roller_base.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20130924_rack_roller_base.htm)
At least in Australia the ground isn't trying to kill us.
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I'm curious..do you guys have fire extinguisher anywhere in your lab?
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yes, I have a few. One by the laser cutter. Some others to deal with acetone, alcohol, and other chemicals. Fortunately, never used one in the lab but i have used them for emergencies in the field.
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Good to know.I currently updating my electronics labs and thinking getting a fire extinguisher for just in case.Great to know that I not so paranoid :scared:
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I'm curious..do you guys have fire extinguisher anywhere in your lab?
I have a couple.
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This is my contribution. It's nothing fancy, but it's what I can afford and what I've been able to accumulate over the last year.
Unfortunately electronics engineering is just a hobby and I am very much the amateur. That and, I don't have a lot of space or a lot of money these days for my hobbies.
I'm jealous of all the gear I've seen in this thread and one day I hope to accumulate more of my own... :-BROKE
On the bench;
Fluke 115 DMM, Siglent SDS1072CML oscilloscope, HP E3611A power supply, Hakko FX888-D soldering station, HP 3311A function generator, Hickok Model 270 function generator and an old Weller soldering station that I still use on occasion (I still have a few Weller iron's that work with it).
(http://s15.postimg.org/48qipfbw7/20151018_012824.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/48qipfbw7/)
On the wall;
Electronics reference poster (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/crowd-funded-projects/beautifully-made-electronics-reference-poster/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/crowd-funded-projects/beautifully-made-electronics-reference-poster/)) and Lots of assorted probes, leads and adapters on the breaker box with magnetic hooks. I have some more leads and adapters on the wall just under the shelf in the next picture too (you can barely see it under the lower shelf).
(http://s15.postimg.org/hr20fgdfb/20151018_013009.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hr20fgdfb/)
On the lower shelf; Parts/components storage bins and containers, radios, assorted tools and wire, a Craftsman DMM, etc.
On the upper shelf; Magazines, papers/notebooks, and plastic ammo cans with assorted parts/components and other stuff.
Below the shelves is my computer, printer and other assorted stuff (not pictured).
(http://s15.postimg.org/lkqvav5dj/20151018_013038.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lkqvav5dj/)
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Where the rack doesn't have them built in, this is what I do: http://everist.org/NobLog/20130924_rack_roller_base.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20130924_rack_roller_base.htm)
At least in Australia the ground isn't trying to kill us.
Nice fabrication work! Something to keep in mind if I ever get a rack set up.
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I'm curious..do you guys have fire extinguisher anywhere in your lab?
Yup, a small CO2 device. Only had to use it once, when a PSU of an Amplifier I was about to fix spontaneously combusted.
McBryce.
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I'm curious..do you guys have fire extinguisher anywhere in your lab?
Yup, a small CO2 device. Only had to use it once, when a PSU of an Amplifier I was about to fix spontaneously combusted.
McBryce.
Yes I have one 5Kg CO2 fire extinguisher.
I never had to use it but I think it is absolutely necessary for security.
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5kg CO2 and a dry chemical in case some of the solvents really get going!
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I'm curious..do you guys have fire extinguisher anywhere in your lab?
Too bad the days of Halon fire extinguishers are over
They were by far the best.
Now I have CO2 extinguisher always handy in different places in the lab
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This is my contribution. It's nothing fancy, but it's what I can afford and what I've been able to accumulate over the last year.
Unfortunately electronics engineering is just a hobby and I am very much the amateur. That and, I don't have a lot of space or a lot of money these days for my hobbies.
I'm jealous of all the gear I've seen in this thread and one day I hope to accumulate more of my own... :-BROKE
No shame in what you got there. That is a nice bench! :-+
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I'm curious..do you guys have fire extinguisher anywhere in your lab?
Too bad the days of Halon fire extinguishers are over
They were by far the best.
Now I have CO2 extinguisher always handy in different places in the lab
Still have the scrapped halon ones. If there was a bank in country they would have gone there, but at present I just keep them around and rust free. CO2 is good, and I have one around, and a dry powder in the kitchen doorway.
Not much use having a fire extinguisher in a cupboard or in a far corner if there is a fire, like interior designers like to do. That, and a stove isolator switch behind the stove such that you have to reach through the inferno going on on top or in the oven to switch it off.........
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I'm curious..do you guys have fire extinguisher anywhere in your lab?
I got one from my grandmother when I was 13 or so after showing her my self made super candle! Its still in my parent's shed though. I do have a smoke detector in my lab. If your house is on fire just get out ASAP because the smoke will kill you long before you burn.
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Still have the scrapped halon ones.
Me too, I have 3 or 4 empty halon extinguisher but can not get them filled.
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Halon was just as good at killing people as it was at saving property. Right? Seems nice that the priority is on saving people.
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On the wall;
Electronics reference poster (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/crowd-funded-projects/beautifully-made-electronics-reference-poster/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/crowd-funded-projects/beautifully-made-electronics-reference-poster/)) and Lots of assorted probes, leads and adapters on the breaker box with magnetic hooks. I have some more leads and adapters on the wall just under the shelf in the next picture too (you can barely see it under the lower shelf).
(http://s15.postimg.org/hr20fgdfb/20151018_013009.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hr20fgdfb/)
Where did you get that poster from and how much was it ?
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Still have the scrapped halon ones.
Me too, I have 3 or 4 empty halon extinguisher but can not get them filled.
I have a halon extinguisher i bought about a year ago. I believe they are still sold here in the US. There are several on Amazon.
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plastic ammo cans
(http://s15.postimg.org/lkqvav5dj/20151018_013038.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/lkqvav5dj/)
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Are those Plano brand? I just got one myself the other day, fantastic for storing tools!
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No shame in what you got there. That is a nice bench! :-+
Thank you. It's very much a work in progress and is constantly changing as I organize, clean, buy new parts & equipment, and just generally evolve as a hobby.
Where did you get that poster from and how much was it ?
Check this link: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/crowd-funded-projects/beautifully-made-electronics-reference-poster (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/crowd-funded-projects/beautifully-made-electronics-reference-poster)
It was from a KickStarter type campaign on Indiegogo and I was one of the contributors. But I think he is now selling the posters and other stuff from his website, which you can find here @ http://josericafort.com/store/ (http://josericafort.com/store/)
It's a great poster and printed on quality heavy paper. I chose to buy a frame for mine. It goes well above any EE bench.
Are those Plano brand? I just got one myself the other day, fantastic for storing tools!
Yes they are. I've had them for a few years now and I've used them to hold lots of different things. They hold pretty well too.
They were originally used for holding ammo (their intended purpose), but I've since consolidated my ammo into larger metal .50cal ammo cans. These Plano boxes are more along the line of, in terms of size, .30cal ammo cans.
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Those ammo cans look handy and they aren't very expensive either. Just wondering whether customs would raise some red flags since owning a gun without license is a big no-go over here.
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That looks like a crammed bench.
What I notice in general is that people try to cram all their test equipment and PC(s) in a very small space. In most cases you don't need all the test equipment together. Most of my test equipment is stored on a shelve or a cabinet and I only put the equipment I need on my bench. This also makes it easy to have 2 or 3 work areas with seperate projects and their specific equipment needs.
It is definitely crammed, but I use all the pieces every day. Plus those PSU's, DC load, scope, etc. are VERY big and heavy. They are all GPIB connected. Moving the pieces around is a massive pain. All the extra gear is on a shelf - what you see is the minimum daily requirement. ...
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My bench is also crammed with gear, but is also the gear that I use during particular project. I also have some of those Chroma and Kikusui DC loads and power supplies and some of them are on purposely build racks but some on the bench, connected to PC, and they do weigh 25-40kg each, moving them is a BIG pain.
I guess the main problem is that when you have a workshop at home, you might be limited on available space, that's why you see so many examples of benches with mountains of gear on them. Even simple things like being able to access the bench at the back (accessing the rear panels of the instruments) is a problem as most probably the bench is next to a wall.
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Even simple things like being able to access the bench at the back (accessing the rear panels of the instruments) is a problem as most probably the bench is next to a wall.
I agree. I have a rather large bench that weighs over 1000 lbs (the bench itself is about 500 lbs), so sliding it out from the wall unassisted is impossible (at least for me). If I need to get behind the bench, I lift it up with a car jack and slide furniture dollies under each of the legs. I can then pull the bench out, though it still takes quite a bit of effort. The whole process takes about 15 minutes, and maybe another 10 minutes to get it back in place after I'm done crawling around behind it.
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I REALLY look forward to having access to the rear of the bench! Right now I am crammed into 10x15 foot space that is packed full. My pick and place machine is in my garage surrounded by rolling shelves with parts, shipping, etc. Hopefully, I am only a couple of months from gaining 400ft2 which will make it much more workable.
Can't wait to upload those pics......I feel like a sardine every day.
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For eqpt that have BNC jacks at the back, (like my 8903B), I made a patch panel and route some BNC patch cables to the rear of the equipment.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/instrument-for-audio-signal-analysis/?action=dlattach;attach=177649;image)
I also have some equipment on a rolling rack where I need to patch XLR cables often. Plus, I also left some open space so I can reach in with my arms to unplug/plug jacks.
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That is an excellent patch panel, fivefish. A good idea for all sorts of rear-panel connections. I assume that's a rack spacer/blank that you mounted the BNCs into.
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That is a good idea Fifefish.
Looks Good
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Yeah, just your standard 19" metal plate/panel/spacer, drilled holes, and mounted pass-through BNC jacks.
That's also a 4u height set of mounting rack, screwed/installed in a 1/2" thick plywood box.
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Fantastic fivefish, neat and very elegant! :-+
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Halon was just as good at killing people as it was at saving property. Right? Seems nice that the priority is on saving people.
It seems halon wasn't all that reliable at saving property. In the 80s the company I worked for changed insurers. One of the requirements from the new insurer was to rip out all the halon extinguishers in the computers rooms, and replace them with water sprinklers. The stated reason was the poor track record of halon systems activating properly in real fires. Lots of people thought that was a terrible idea, as the machines would be damaged in the event of a fire. Thry seemed to ignore that there would be a fire, and stuff would be damaged anyway.
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I guess because Halon was so good a killing people, the trigger systems practically needed an order from the president of the United States to go off. I was a contractor on a job that was upgrading the halon control system (I had nothing to do with halon system, just there as an observer). The system required many triggers and then there was a substantial delay to allow all the people to escape first. I always though to myself that it would take a full inferno to actually trigger the system, and then it was programmed to wait on top of that. Nuts.
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Those ammo cans look handy and they aren't very expensive either. Just wondering whether customs would raise some red flags since owning a gun without license is a big no-go over here.
Yeah. I don't know that. That is unfortunately between you and your government.
But I don't see how a plastic container could be considered illegal.
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I guess because Halon was so good a killing people...
Actually, it wasn't/isn't. It causes "slight giddiness".
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I thought that it displaced oxygen fast enough to cause problems - like passing out while the fire rages around you. That is not an informed thought, just what I was guessing. Is that far off?
The technicians that I spoke with were quite serious about ensuring the room was clear before a deployment during an emergency.
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I thought that it displaced oxygen fast enough to cause problems - like passing out while the fire rages around you. That is not an informed thought, just what I was guessing. Is that far off?
The whole reason to use Halon, instead of much cheaper CO2, is that it is effective at suppressing fires, in non-lethal concentrations. Amazing stuff.
The technicians that I spoke with were quite serious about ensuring the room was clear before a deployment during an emergency.
It's better not to breathe it if you don't have to, and there's always the chance that someone miscalculated the system size.
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I was under the impression that the issue with Halon is that it's a chlorofluorocarbon (blamed for ozone depletion), and that it is in fact an excellent fire extinguishing substance with relatively low toxicity.
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I was under the impression that the issue with Halon is that it's a chlorofluorocarbon (blamed for ozone depletion), and that it is in fact an excellent fire extinguishing substance with relatively low toxicity.
-Pat
More than one Halon is used in fire extinguishers, and its hard to tell how toxic they are, because of conflicting information. For example, Halon 1301 (BTM) is said to be a very low toxicity substance in many places, yet its Wikipedia page says "Human exposure to Halon 1301 can be toxic, affecting the central nervous system and other bodily functions.". It certainly damages the ozone layer, so it is being displaced for that reason.
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It's been a few years since I last spec'd out a comms room, but we were pushed to nitrogen instead of halon for the machine rooms I last put together. The point was that it was an oxygen displacer. Pp, there was a cat flap-like arrangement in the wall for the purpose. There was still a few seconds programmed in to get out, but you had to tell it you were inside to benefit from that, or maybe that was an override, it's been a few years. Apparently you'd definitely know about it when it went off.
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Nitrogen could be quite nasty to humans as you can't detect the lack of oxygen until you pass out, CO2 is quite " nice" as you can detect it quite easily so you get out of there, I don't know about the halons.
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At work we have very large nitrogen generators that are used to purge chillers that contain fresh fruit... Lots of fresh fruit - 15,000 tonnes of apples at the height of the season.
A sophisticated monitoring system manages the air mixture "recipe" to prolong the life of the fruit.
Leveraging this technology, we have our comms room hooked up to the system as well.
Normally the comms room runs at 21% oxygen, however in the event of a fire the controlled atmosphere equipment drops the oxygen level to exactly 15%.
15% oxygen is insufficient to support fire and gives people plenty of time to exit safely.
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My specialty - racecar ignition systems. I r&d at home for a friend. Board loading is inside the house.
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My specialty - racecar ignition systems. I r&d at home for a friend. Board loading is inside the house.
Do you still have all your fingers?
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I guess because Halon was so good a killing people...
Actually, it wasn't/isn't. It causes "slight giddiness".
That actually depends on the exact compound used and the nature of the fire. Some are incredibly toxic in their own right, most are fine for short term exposure but will cause liver damage. The ones used in fire extinguishers while pretty harmless on their own will produce chlorine compounds similar or identical to those used as chemical weapons as they release their halogens. Their only advantage is they leave no residue so cause less damage to equipment.
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13 years as a software developer has not prepared me for 2 months of electronics engineering!
Seriously, I've gone from a purely minimal setup; desk, chair, laptop and monitor to:
- Soldering Station
- Clamp
- Third Hand
- Printer
- Anglepoise
- Electronic Components Everywhere
- Power Strips
- Another computer (desktop)
- Extra Monitor
- Stationary Galore
- Moar Books
- Hand Tools
- Bin (for all the bits of wire and solder and whatnot)
- Power Adapters
- Shredder
- Fume Extractor (Well, a Fan)
- Strip Lights
- (Possible) 3D Printer?
- Wire-Spools on rails
- Fire Extinguisher
It's just crazy! How do you guys deal with the physical bloat?
Well, I guess a good work-bench / lab. So I've spent some time reading trough this thread (well, most of it) and watching a few videos on youtube and I think I've half a plan...
My current (stressfully messy) setup; all cramped onto my once clean desk.
(http://i.imgur.com/hfWdnZU.jpg)
Plan A - move all that junk onto a stack and clear my desk.
(http://i.imgur.com/wmcM0uM.png)
Which makes me think of...
(https://mydailycow.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/far_side_cows.jpg?w=500)
Any golden tips beyond: "more power", "get a fire extinguisher", "put spools on spindles", "have a place for everything", "MOAR DRAWERS"...?
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A twenty by twenty foot barn with a loft.
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Quick update;
I was becoming annoyed with the clutter and having to constantly move things out of the way to access my parts cabinets, so I did some cleaning and I'm much happier now.
I also labeled some previously empty drawers, moved some stuff around, etc.
If you pay attention the walls, you can see just how small of a space I'm working with. I don't recall the actual size, but maybe 8' x 8'.
I also took a picture further out, so you can see the desk under the shelves with my computer.
(http://s7.postimg.org/4iy9cmf6v/20151029_151801.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4iy9cmf6v/)
Every parts drawer but 1 is now being used and is now correctly labeled.
(http://s7.postimg.org/w8uudk413/20151029_151809.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/w8uudk413/)
The oscilloscope is under the towels, I leave it covered so my cats don't mess with it. The other equipment is not as sensitive or expensive to replace as the scope.
(http://s7.postimg.org/caezb6jc7/20151029_151822.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/caezb6jc7/)
"Additional Storage" for more parts, my tools and other assorted stuff under the work table.
(http://s7.postimg.org/4wzlc7zaf/20151029_151848.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4wzlc7zaf/)
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The oscilloscope is under the towels, I leave it covered so my cats don't mess with it.
I'm impressed that you have a cat that knows how to use an Oscilloscope :-+ :-DD
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My current (stressfully messy) setup; all cramped onto my once clean desk.
(http://i.imgur.com/hfWdnZU.jpg)
Anyone who lines up Post-It notes like that has got to be stressed by any kind of mess. Makes me wonder what the colours mean. That can't be random. :)
It's a sort of agile-for-one system that I've developed, works pretty well for me as I spend (most) of my time in the home office. At the end of the week I review the board and move completed tasks onto my spike, reviewing each note as they come off - often resulting in other actions such as sending invoices, follow-up emails or new related tasks.
My current spike has about 200 post-its, my spikes hold around 300-350 tasks, then get archived to the loft never to be seen again...
(http://i.imgur.com/zPonfqb.jpg)
As you can see by "Mortgage Review", not all tasks are short (it took about a month to switch mortgages), nor are they all work-related. They get a fat marker line when complete. A quick recap of the top notes:
- Mortgage Review
- Paint Fire Surround
- Switch Gas & Electric Supplier
- File Quarterly VAT Return
- Add Templating engine to Floorplanner
- Push Release 0.9.6
and so it goes on...
The best thing about the spike is that it acts as a great motivator; after a good Friday teardown I can go to the pub.
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Wow, that looks like a neat way to organise tasks! :-+ :popcorn:
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I have a wife. She likes to organize my tasks. |O
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Wow, that looks like a neat way to organise tasks! :-+ [emoji14]opcorn:
seriously! I'm going to implement this setup. I love it!
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You just can't beat a tactile todo list!
I'm out walking the dog at the moment, but I'll post a more detailed explanation later on...
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Early morning "Art shot" of my bench taken from my bed. I'll post a picture of the "business" end of things when I'm more motivated.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=179070)
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Early morning "Art shot" of my bench taken from my bed. I'll post a picture of the "business" end of things when I'm more motivated.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=179070)
I wish I could sleep next to my equipment.
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I wish I could sleep next to my equipment.
It does have its advantages. Especially when you have that "Oh shit! I think I left the soldering iron on!" moment. (See Metcal MX-500 creeping in on the right) Just roll over, click the switch, and go back to cuddling, having never left the bed.
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Early morning "Art shot" of my bench taken from my bed. I'll post a picture of the "business" end of things when I'm more motivated.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=179070)
Well, your fluke's have turned their back on you [emoji3]
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If I am sleeping next to my workbench, it's because SWMBO has relegated me to the dog house!
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The oscilloscope is under the towels, I leave it covered so my cats don't mess with it.
I'm impressed that you have a cat that knows how to use an Oscilloscope :-+ :-DD
Nice. I would not put it past him to at least turn the thing on, maybe press some buttons. But more realistically I don't want him chewing on it or getting any hair or whatever else on it when he rubs against it, especially the display.
I also have a kitten who is about 3 months old and she tries to eat or at least play with anything she can touch, even furniture. She can't jump on the desk yet, but I'm dreading the day she figures out that she can.
Ughhh... Pets. >:( :wtf:
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A benefit of having your keyboard on an under desk slideout, other than it not getting in the way, is that when the cat comes over for some attention you can swiftly push the keyboard safely away, rather than having your code substantially overwritten or sometimes worse.
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when the cat comes over for some attention you can swiftly push the keyboard safely away, rather than having your code substantially overwritten or sometimes worse.
My cat knows not to go near the keyboard lol
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Early morning "Art shot" of my bench taken from my bed.
I love it - an "Art shot". I think we need a new thread just for "Art" shots of benches, projects etc.
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If I have a hard programming problem I just go and lay on the bed and shut my eyes for five or ten minutes and ding! I have the answer. Bed next to bench is a good move. Mine is at the opposite end of the house.
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If I am sleeping next to my workbench, it's because SWMBO has relegated me to the dog house!
Now you see the genius in my planning!
Actually all kidding aside, I have an awesome partner who co-projects with me, watches EEVblog episodes with me (mailbag especially), and makes donations to the blog or the Amp Hour in my name as a Christmas/birthday present year after year. So yes, she is a keeper!
The large upturned computer heat sink seen in the picture is part of a cloud chamber we've been working on over the last month or so.
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You bet she is a keeper! SWMBO makes me wear headphones because Dave's accent drives her crazy. :-DD She also doesn't like coming out into my office because she says it's a scary place. She is a medical assistant and doesn't want to know what goes on in my office. As long as she can get on the internet with her laptop and phone she is happy, she doesn't care about the process. She knows what I do for a living, she just doesn't want to know what I do. I love telling her about a service call I ran or a piece of equipment I repaired on my bench, just to watch her eyes glaze over :-+ :-+ Mine is actually a keeper also, she lets me play ham radio, even though she thinks all of us in my club are crazy.
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You bet she is a keeper! SWMBO makes me wear headphones because Dave's accent drives her crazy. :-DD
Now that's funny because my wife says the same thing. I have to wait till she's in the other room before watching the videos.
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You bet she is a keeper! SWMBO makes me wear headphones because Dave's accent drives her crazy. :-DD
Now that's funny because my wife says the same thing. I have to wait till she's in the other room before watching the videos.
My wife loves his voice!! Wants his "hi" to be an automated greeting when we enter our home. I love my wife! ! :)
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I love it - an "Art shot". I think we need a new thread just for "Art" shots of benches, projects etc.
Start one! :-+
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The large upturned computer heat sink seen in the picture is part of a cloud chamber we've been working on over the last month or so.
Cool! Are you going to write it up somewhere? Hint - here.
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You bet she is a keeper! SWMBO makes me wear headphones because Dave's accent drives her crazy. :-DD
Now that's funny because my wife says the same thing. I have to wait till she's in the other room before watching the videos.
Mine too!
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The large upturned computer heat sink seen in the picture is part of a cloud chamber we've been working on over the last month or so.
Cool! Are you going to write it up somewhere? Hint - here.
Yes and yes!
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=149162;image)
You missed some free space near the corner of the desk.
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=149162;image)
You missed some free space near the corner of the desk.
Please tell me that's missing cloth in the middle of the chair's seat :scared:
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:-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD
Haven't you learned not to ask questions you really, really don't want answered?
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If he can’t make it for the toilet fast, there’s a toilet paper at the right side below the desk.
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Every once in a while, every hoarder needs to move.
It's still months away, but i wanted to estimate the magnitude of the problem.
Fortunately, i'm OCD enought to keep everything organized, so it was simply a matter of stacking everything on the floor, measuring and weighting.
So, here is what a cubic meter and 270kg of stuff looks like:
(http://i.imgur.com/bLF6ioS.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/FX0mxF4.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/y0UFGHS.jpg)
...that's going to be a lonely road trip...
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I he can’t make it for the toilet fast, there’s a toilet paper at the right side below the desk.
That toilet paper might have other uses...
>:D
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=149162;image)
You missed some free space near the corner of the desk.
Please tell me that's missing cloth in the middle of the chair's seat :scared:
Is kakureru Related to Jim Williams by any chance ?.
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I like the levitating mouse on the top right. He's solved the problem of having no clear flat area to use it. :-+
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=149162;image)
You missed some free space near the corner of the desk.
Please tell me that's missing cloth in the middle of the chair's seat :scared:
In all serious (for newbies) this has to be staged, but I like it. Mine almost looks like this. I am going to print this and frame it.
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That looks way neater than mine. although no levitating mouse.
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There is a saying that if you want to feel thinner, hang out with people fatter than you.
For all of you who think your set up is out of order, I present my personal (noun) for you to gaze upon.
(insert theremin and generic movie shrieks)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=149162;image)
You missed some free space near the corner of the desk.
Please tell me that's missing cloth in the middle of the chair's seat :scared:
In all serious (for newbies) this has to be staged, but I like it. Mine almost looks like this. I am going to print this and frame it.
What is there too like? :wtf: How can you work in such a mess. Someone must have emptied the trashcan over this work trash space
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What is there too like? :wtf: How can you work in such a mess. Someone must have emptied the trashcan over this work trash space
I would also like to know, I can't stand working in excessive mess clutter :scared:
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In all serious (for newbies) this has to be staged, but I like it. Mine almost looks like this. I am going to print this and frame it.
I don't think it's staged. I knew someone who had an entire live-in warehouse that looked like that. In his case it was definitely a form of mental illness. Severe inability to make rational decisions and then act on them. I've no idea what the actual syndrome would be called.
I have storage areas that look nearly as chaotic, but that's a result of a messed up sequence of building shelving vs stuff in the way of building the shelving, due to overall owner-building schedule. Letting work areas get like that... well I'd better be careful what I say. Don't want to offend the spirit of Jim Williams.
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In all serious (for newbies) this has to be staged, but I like it. Mine almost looks like this. I am going to print this and frame it.
I don't think it's staged. I knew someone who had an entire live-in warehouse that looked like that. In his case it was definitely a form of mental illness. Severe inability to make rational decisions and then act on them. I've no idea what the actual syndrome would be called.
I have storage areas that look nearly as chaotic, but that's a result of a messed up sequence of building shelving vs stuff in the way of building the shelving, due to overall owner-building schedule. Letting work areas get like that... well I'd better be careful what I say. Don't want to offend the spirit of Jim Williams.
I believe Jim had a place for his feet. This is why it looks staged to me, it is the where you would place your feet that makes it look fake to me, ie no place for the feet.
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I suspect it's a normal, proper workplace that has had a whole lot of junk thrown in for the sale of a photo. Notice the organised way the cameras are hanging.
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I suspect it's a normal, proper workplace that has had a whole lot of junk thrown in for the sale of a photo. Notice the organised way the cameras are hanging.
The cameras are probably some kind of collection. Unfortunately I have come across desks which where close to this stage of utter nutter clutterness.
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This reminds me of a picture which used to hang by the desk of a former software colleague, with the caption:
"Just because your desk looks like this, doesn't mean your code has to"
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What is there too like?
I like the potential for a "Where's Wally?" competition. First to find a AA battery wins a small amount of kudos :-DD
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What is there too like?
I like the potential for a "Where's Wally?" competition. First to find a AA battery wins a small amount of kudos :-DD
Too easy
(http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/random-bench01.jpg)
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I suspect it's a normal, proper workplace that has had a whole lot of junk thrown in for the sale of a photo. Notice the organised way the cameras are hanging.
+1 :-+
(but actually this is the left side of Dave's lab from the prospective of the live cam, this is why he is looking for another place :-DD )
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I suspect it's a normal, proper workplace that has had a whole lot of junk thrown in for the sale of a photo. Notice the organised way the cameras are hanging.
I lived many years with a real "Messy". This is not only possible, but typical. It's not staged, I had to live in a house that looked like this until I couldn't stand it any more. I am a very tidy person myself.
McBryce.
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I suspect it's a normal, proper workplace that has had a whole lot of junk thrown in for the sale of a photo. Notice the organised way the cameras are hanging.
I lived many years with a real "Messy". This is not only possible, but typical. It's not staged, I had to live in a house that looked like this until I couldn't stand it any more. I am a very tidy person myself.
McBryce.
What happened next? Stopped working or went to a bigger house?
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She got "promoted" to ex-girlfriend and was given her marching orders :D
McBryce.
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I believe Jim had a place for his feet. This is why it looks staged to me, it is the where you would place your feet that makes it look fake to me, ie no place for the feet.
On the contrary, the stuff below the desk is easily adjusted to a comfortable height upon which to rest the feet.
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To survive and work in there, a see some bottles which I assume there are pills. Under the floating mouse.
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To survive and work in there, a see some bottles which I assume there are pills. Under the floating mouse.
I suppose at least it looks like some electronics-related stuff happens amongst the mess. As opposed to the almost entirely bloody metalwork I've spent the last month on, in the name of 'spring cleaning.'
Updated: http://everist.org/NobLog/20151012_spring_diversions.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20151012_spring_diversions.htm)
Finished at last. But it's not as if I'll be able to get back to what I was doing before all that began, since a few other urgent tasks got pushed on the stack in the meantime.
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I never get used to people saying spring time has come in October... :popcorn:
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To survive and work in there, a see some bottles which I assume there are pills. Under the floating mouse.
I suppose at least it looks like some electronics-related stuff happens amongst the mess. As opposed to the almost entirely bloody metalwork I've spent the last month on, in the name of 'spring cleaning.'
Updated: http://everist.org/NobLog/20151012_spring_diversions.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20151012_spring_diversions.htm)
Finished at last. But it's not as if I'll be able to get back to what I was doing before all that began, since a few other urgent tasks got pushed on the stack in the meantime.
I wish I was your neighbor. :-+
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To my dismay I couldn't find and studs in decent places on the wall for double slot shelving like I'd planned, so I decided to make a "standing bench" using various IKEA components.
(http://i.imgur.com/wmcM0uM.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/QM7WmZw.jpg)
Pretty happy with it so far, although it's only been a couple of days. Might need a few extra lights on the bench, I naively thought the LED strips would have a better spreading angle.
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I dismantled my lab in the closet last week, but I took one last picture to remember it by.
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my Restoration Laboratory for Classic Tek Scopes and boatanchor radios :)
(http://www.wellenkino.de/531a/10.JPG)
greetings
Martin
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Another bumper crop of really fine benches...
Looks like Martian is not lacking a good scope. :)
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Those last two pictures bring back memories. When I was a kid my father build me such a 'closet lab' in a small room in the attic. I couldn't even stand up straight in it!
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Mine is still under progress, looking for good bargains to buy used equipment or get it free from university when they are throwing away stuff like that nice AiO computer where I tried to install XP but support ended and downloading all updates manually is pain in the ass so I will upgrade it to Windows 7 with more RAM and bigger HDD.
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/asunto/Tampere/2015/kotostyspoyta_rakentelu.jpg)
I will do a tear down for that Samsung AiO computer when I get my so-dimm memory module from post office but workers are on strike :-//
I am going to remove those empty whiskey bottles and make a shelf on top of the bench and add most of the test equipment on those, going to make it strong enough so I can mount a stereo microscope on it and lift it out of the way and install some nice general lighting under those shelves (led strips).
If you have suggestions how to make it nice and good please share ideas, should I make the shelves from wood or metal or mix both?
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/asunto/Tampere/2015/poyta1.JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/asunto/Tampere/2015/poyta3.JPG)
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Another bumper crop of really fine benches...
Looks like Martian is not lacking a good scope. :)
Nor heat in the wintertime, I'd imagine...
-Pat
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If you have suggestions how to make it nice and good please share ideas, should I make the shelves from wood or metal or mix both?
I just put another Ikea Omar metal shelving system together to get more out of my floor space. Also for some reasone my floor gets more and more cluttered with cartboard boxes.
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If you have suggestions how to make it nice and good please share ideas, should I make the shelves from wood or metal or mix both?
I just put another Ikea Omar metal shelving system together to get more out of my floor space. Also for some reasone my floor gets more and more cluttered with cartboard boxes.
Any idea how thick those legs are? Might fall straight into the holes. Would make easy job to add shelves. Hole distance across the table is 101cm so would still have to mod that omar system a bit.
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Those last two pictures bring back memories. When I was a kid my father build me such a 'closet lab' in a small room in the attic. I couldn't even stand up straight in it!
My first shop was my walk-in closet. My father found me a table that fit in it to use as a workbench and my mom got me a free standing closet to move my clothes out. The next house we moved to they gave me the biggest bedroom because it had a huge walk-in closet with built in shelves. My sister was pissed.
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Those last two pictures bring back memories. When I was a kid my father build me such a 'closet lab' in a small room in the attic. I couldn't even stand up straight in it!
My first shop was my walk-in closet. My father found me a table that fit in it to use as a workbench and my mom got me a free standing closet to move my clothes out. The next house we moved to they gave me the biggest bedroom because it had a huge walk-in closet with built in shelves. My sister was pissed.
My sister was also pissed because (according to her) I made too much noise so I got a different room for tinkering.
@SLJ: The legs of the Omar shelving system are 25.5mm thick (outer diameter).
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Here's my mess after an all nighter...
(http://lazpro.com/bench.jpg)
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Here's my mess after an all nighter...
:o
No DSO?
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7603 under the bench gets the job done Mr. T.
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The DSO is under the bench - Difficult place to view it? But you smoke matches?
McBryce.
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Mr. McBryce,
I roll my own and when the lighter fluid runs out, the matches save the day, but you can go through a box quickly.
That scope is so deep that it had to go under the bench and was a back breaker in both senses.
Peter
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The DSO is under the bench - Difficult place to view it? But you smoke matches?
McBryce.
Nothing wrong with that , I see a toughened glass pane inserted into the desk and room to get a hand under that to use controls in my head.
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Mr. McBryce,
I roll my own and when the lighter fluid runs out, the matches save the day, but you can go through a box quickly.
That scope is so deep that it had to go under the bench and was a back breaker in both senses.
Peter
Yes, it's just that in the picture it looks like the ashtray is full of matches, but no cigarette butts.
McBryce.
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Here's my mess after an all nighter...
(http://lazpro.com/bench.jpg)
A 10-keyless keyboard, an old Nokia phone, a Tek 7000 rackmount scope, old tower PC... are you my long-lost brother?
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A 10-keyless keyboard, an old Nokia phone, a Tek 7000 rackmount scope, old tower PC... are you my long-lost brother?
Quite possibly... my old dad did have a bicycle.
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Here's my mess after an all nighter...
(http://lazpro.com/bench.jpg)
Looks about right for an all-nighter to me.
My shop looks like I pulled an all month long project.
Stuff torn down waiting parts on the bench:
2 hand held transceivers
3 solid state HF transceivers
5 tube transceivers
2 Oscilloscopes
1 signal generator.
I got to get busy
Plenty of YouTube material :)
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Looks about right for an all-nighter to me.
My shop looks like I pulled an all month long project.
Stuff torn down waiting parts on the bench:
2 hand held transceivers
3 solid state HF transceivers
5 tube transceivers
2 Oscilloscopes
1 signal generator.
I got to get busy
Plenty of YouTube material :)
Please Do I am running out of good things to watch.....
My bench is in gridlock for a couple of weeks while I work on a radio club project...
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Please Do I am running out of good things to watch.....
Try this: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrCarlsonsLab/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/MrCarlsonsLab/videos)
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Thanks...
Something to watch while I wait for the next installment of Road Kill.
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Please Do I am running out of good things to watch.....
My bench is in gridlock for a couple of weeks while I work on a radio club project...
If all goes well I may have 2 uploaded this weekend. And I feel the same way. Some repair vides I have watched twice or more.
Please Do I am running out of good things to watch.....
Try this: https://www.youtube.com/user/MrCarlsonsLab/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/MrCarlsonsLab/videos)
I like his videos. Does a good job.
Also Peter TRXbench does some nice repairs.
Cannot add his channel here at work. YouTube blocks.
I did a bit of redesigning my main bench yesterday. I use this one the most out of all 4. But it was not deep enough with the 12 inch shelf . So I moved the section out and added 12 inches to the rear. Now have 32 inches of bench space. Also added a 32 inch monitor directly behind the bench. Don't know if anyone ever looked at schematics from Kenwood. This monitor helps! Here is a peek.
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Cool...
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With the ubiquitous HP8640 sig gen. I wonder if you've had broken gear issues with it also?
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Radio Tech, I have monitor envy. I only have a 22" on my bench :palm:
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With the ubiquitous HP8640 sig gen. I wonder if you've had broken gear issues with it also?
Sure did, I had to repair mine when I got it. I chose to repair my gears instead of finding the guy that makes replicas. My first 3 YouTube videos is on the 8640B.
# 001, 002, 003
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHJpeSrEjtVk1YtRU3FrpQQ/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHJpeSrEjtVk1YtRU3FrpQQ/videos)
For some reason video #004 did not record. It showed how I took the broken gears and glued them back together. I used a backing plate to reinforce the gears made out of a piece of perf-board. I then aligned the gear in my milling machine. Put the brass insert on a mandrel and heated it. Was able to put the insert back into the gear dead center and after it cooled there was no chance of it coming back out.
Note: what causes the gears to crack in the first place is over time the material the gear is made of shrinks. The brass insert does not shrink. With the set screw hole in the gear this creates a weak link and is where the gear breaks at. If you glue the gear back together you can no longer install the insert since the hole is now undersized due to the shrinkage. This is why I heat the insert and force it back into the undersized hole.
Very time consuming but works fine.
Radio Tech, I have monitor envy. I only have a 22" on my bench :palm:
I hear you :-DD
But even 22 inches is better than most standard PC monitors. When I went to 32 inches things became much clearer. :-+
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With the ubiquitous HP8640 sig gen. I wonder if you've had broken gear issues with it also?
That is so common I wonder if someone has made a replacement..
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With the ubiquitous HP8640 sig gen. I wonder if you've had broken gear issues with it also?
That is so common I wonder if someone has made a replacement..
Mr Hoffman shows how to cast replacement gears here:
http://conradhoffman.com/HP8640B_gears.htm (http://conradhoffman.com/HP8640B_gears.htm)
There was a guy on Ebay selling casted gears at one time. Although I have not seen a listing for quite some time now.
I am still thinking about searching for another 8640B to restore. I do not want to tear mine back down again. So if I can ever find another at a reasonable price I am going to try and duplicate the gears. Thinking about making them out of brass. One I get the pattern done I should be able to reproduce a few sets.
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With the ubiquitous HP8640 sig gen. I wonder if you've had broken gear issues with it also?
That is so common I wonder if someone has made a replacement..
Mr Hoffman shows how to cast replacement gears here:
http://conradhoffman.com/HP8640B_gears.htm (http://conradhoffman.com/HP8640B_gears.htm)
There was a guy on Ebay selling casted gears at one time. Although I have not seen a listing for quite some time now.
I am still thinking about searching for another 8640B to restore. I do not want to tear mine back down again. So if I can ever find another at a reasonable price I am going to try and duplicate the gears. Thinking about making them out of brass. One I get the pattern done I should be able to reproduce a few sets.
That would be a good deal, that's my all time favorite signal generator, used them hundreds of times. I haven't owned one just yet.
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Just I've finished my workbench. Total cost: Around 150€.
A little pic, before put all the instruments:
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That would be a good deal, that's my all time favorite signal generator, used them hundreds of times. I haven't owned one just yet.
Yes, I love the 8640B. Very solid generator and fairly easy to work on. Got mine for 100 bucks non working. When I emailed the seller the next day telling him it was working I could tell his heart sank.
Just I've finished my workbench. Total cost: Around 150€.
A little pic, before put all the instruments:
Nice start :-+
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For some reason video #004 did not record. It showed how I took the broken gears and glued them back together. I used a backing plate to reinforce the gears made out of a piece of perf-board. I then aligned the gear in my milling machine. Put the brass insert on a mandrel and heated it. Was able to put the insert back into the gear dead center and after it cooled there was no chance of it coming back out.
Note: what causes the gears to crack in the first place is over time the material the gear is made of shrinks. The brass insert does not shrink. With the set screw hole in the gear this creates a weak link and is where the gear breaks at. If you glue the gear back together you can no longer install the insert since the hole is now undersized due to the shrinkage. This is why I heat the insert and force it back into the undersized hole.
Very time consuming but works fine.
Ah ha! I have a nice chart recorder with gears broken for the same reason - plastic shrank, brass core did not. I've been looking for a solution other than setting up to machine new all-brass gears - which I could do but too lazy.
Heating the brass bit and forcing it in while centered on lathe did not occur to me. Thanks!
What did you use to glue the fractured gear? It's nylon isn't it?
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Ah ha! I have a nice chart recorder with gears broken for the same reason - plastic shrank, brass core did not. I've been looking for a solution other than setting up to machine new all-brass gears - which I could do but too lazy.
Heating the brass bit and forcing it in while centered on lathe did not occur to me. Thanks!
What did you use to glue the fractured gear? It's nylon isn't it?
As you know it is practically impossible to glue nylon together. This is due to it's thermal properties and is a very slick substance. But this can be beat.
All in preparation. You have to rough up the two parts with sand paper. Then I drill several tiny holes in the part. As many as possible. Now you have something for the glue to adhere to. Clean the gear with ISA. I used Quick-Cure 5 minute epoxy.
There is also a glue called "Liquid nails" that works pretty good.
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As you know it is practically impossible to glue nylon together. This is due to it's thermal properties and is a very slick substance.
Sure do! Most times when I have no alternative to 'fixing' a broken nylon part I use splints and rivets. Lots of small brass pins...
Some types of plastic can be heat-welded, using a soldering iron and some scrap same-type plastic bits.
But this can be beat.
All in preparation. You have to rough up the two parts with sand paper. Then I drill several tiny holes in the part. As many as possible. Now you have something for the glue to adhere to. Clean the gear with ISA.
ISA? Did you mean IPA - Isopropyl alcohol?
I used Quick-Cure 5 minute epoxy.
There is also a glue called "Liquid nails" that works pretty good.
Also the rubbery contact cements can work for low stress large area joints on non-stickable plastic.
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ISA? Did you mean IPA - Isopropyl alcohol?
Yes, Don't know why I typed that for. Brain fried for working on a TS-904 all day I guess.
Also the rubbery contact cements can work for low stress large area joints on non-stickable plastic.
That's good to know. May try that some day.
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Just I've finished my workbench. Total cost: Around 150€.
A little pic, before put all the instruments:
That reminds me of an erector set. Is it stable?
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Just I've finished my workbench. Total cost: Around 150€.
A little pic, before put all the instruments:
Looks dangerous :scared:
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Nice start :-+
Thank you! I hope to enjoy it and fill it with dangerous prototypes.
That reminds me of an erector set. Is it stable?
It's made using parts of metallic (steel) shelves. It can hold my weight (90kg ~ 200lb) safely but yes, needs extra support to make it definitely stable because actually it's a little stagger.
https://www.google.es/search?q=metallic+shelves (https://www.google.es/search?q=metallic+shelves)
Looks dangerous :scared:
haha... Don't be scared, man. The work bench is ugly but not dangerous. I need to buy some cable conduit to hide all the power cables (I hate to see a mesh of cables around the top table). and the structure is earth grounded (not neutral).
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Looks dangerous :scared:
Many years ago I build a few radio repeaters that were rack mount. I used this same material he made his bench out of. It held the receiver, transmitter, controller, power supply and amplifiers. Racks were about 5 feet tall. No worries, rock solid when you add a few cross braces.
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Looks dangerous :scared:
These were a common bench design in my apprenticeship days. With small corner struts they are very solid.
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Had quite a few of the steel shelves buckle, they are not really rated to hold 200kg of paper which is what they were loaded with, files that got consolidated into archive binders and they were added to till the whole shelf space was solid paper.
Also do not like being used as a ladder to reach the top shelf, though if you stack 2 shelf units right on each other so the lower adds extra support it does well, and those little corner diagonals are not going to hold up under a 300kg load, you need the solid sheet backing or side braces instead. Otherwise they will handle a load up to the point where the leg ends punch through the vinyl floor tiling from the load.
Got quite a lot of it though, must put some together if I need more storage space.
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I use similar slotted angle for my bench but put some MDF sheet on each end for bracing and a few straps across the back. The MDF one end has the mains outlets, the other end has 12V (13.8) power board (lots of Andersons).
Metal framing has the advantage that it doesn't sag after years of static load like timber does (unless timber is very lightly loaded).
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I tidied up a little. Ignore all the stuff under the bench, thats where all my tidying got shoved.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4963246/20151208_023943.jpg)
and the other area, where the bigger machinery lives.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4963246/will%20workshop/workshop1resize.jpg)
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Very nice ITMan.
What's the plotter used for?
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Neat :)
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The plotter is my friend's and they use it to print out big 36" full color posters of stuff. It's pretty damn awesome!
This is the other side of my room, which was the first pictures, and those posters hung up were made on that printer.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4963246/IMG_20141113_040630_148resize.jpg)
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That attic is a dream... Congratulations.
News for my ugly beast bench: i've upgraded it putting a cross angle and now my bench is a solid rock. Total upgrade cost: 4€. ^-^
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Thank you! It's actually a tractor shed on the side of my friend's house. I wish it was my own house.. Have to drive to the other half of my damn workshop. But it used to have no walls, no ceiling, no door, and dirt floors. Now it's fully insulated, powered, heated, cooled. And full of spiders. >:(
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Very nice ITMan.
I agree Very Cool
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thank you!
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And full of spiders. >:(
Spiders are cool, they don't eat much :)
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And full of spiders. >:(
I like spiders ;D .
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Not when they crawl out from under your cnc machine and are like 2 inches long..
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Not when they crawl out from under your cnc machine and are like 2 inches long..
Those are Texas Size spiders. :scared:
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Not when they crawl out from under your cnc machine and are like 2 inches long..
At least you have company and also they are protecting you from flies, mosquitoes and other disturbing insects.
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Only 2 inches, those are nice size then, they make pretty good pets at that size or bigger. Bite can be painful, but they generally are not too poisonous at that size. Black widows however are much smaller and a lot less likeable. There will be no mice with them that size, aside from the munched remains.
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... aside from the munched remains.
I did say they don't eat much ;D
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They like birds as well, leaving only a feathered skin and bones behind after they suck out all the liquid inside they have digested with the injected saliva.
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Not when they crawl out from under your cnc machine and are like 2 inches long..
Those are Texas Size spiders. :scared:
Come to Florida and see our 3 inch flying cockroaches (Palmetto Bugs).
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I will admit that I have not seen any other insects other then spiders... I guess they are doing their job. Anything is better then god damn house centipedes. Anything. Even spiders.
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I will admit that I have not seen any other insects other then spiders... I guess they are doing their job. Anything is better then god damn house centipedes. Anything. Even spiders.
I didn't realise spiders were so badass until one went toe to toe with a large centipede in my bathroom (That's a lot of toes (Assuming spiders and centipedes have toes (OK, probably not))).
It was a few years ago, and after an epic battle the spider won. Since then house spiders have been welcomed, particularly after the swallowing them in your sleep thing was revealed to be an urban myth.
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I will admit that I have not seen any other insects other then spiders... I guess they are doing their job. Anything is better then god damn house centipedes. Anything. Even spiders.
I didn't realise spiders were so badass until one went toe to toe with a large centipede in my bathroom (That's a lot of toes (Assuming spiders and centipedes have toes (OK, probably not))).
It was a few years ago, and after an epic battle the spider won. Since then house spiders have been welcomed, particularly after the swallowing them in your sleep thing was revealed to be an urban myth.
I love how these posts go. I also welcome spiders. I just have to clean up after them once in awhile (clean up their cob webs without hurting them). I do kill Black Widows if I come across them because they kill their husbands (ha ha) and I am afraid they will hurt my dogs. The only thing I cannot get over is killing them when they crawl on me in my sleep. Then I always feel bad about it. I am trying to train myself not to do this but wake up and take them outside. Now I feel bad over the last two I killed :(
I wished more people would appreciate spiders and not kill them. :-+
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There are a handfull of named spiders in my workshop that I leave in place but when they start coming in everywhere and crawling over my machinery thats usually where I draw the line. They can stay near the doors and holes and ceiling and corners all they want, just leave me alone..
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Not when they crawl out from under your cnc machine and are like 2 inches long..
Those are Texas Size spiders. :scared:
Come to Florida and see our armored 3 inch flying cockroaches (Palmetto Bugs).
Fixed it for you. ;) >:D
For those that aren't familiar, these things are tough; step on one and it just gives you a "Is that all you've got?" looks. :-DD
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It’s not me. But you see what other people have in their labs.
(http://i.imgur.com/wipuiMu.jpg)
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It’s not me. But you see what other people have in their labs.
CATS! (and apparently spiders?) :scared:
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Not when they crawl out from under your cnc machine and are like 2 inches long..
Those are Texas Size spiders. :scared:
Come to Florida and see our armored 3 inch flying cockroaches (Palmetto Bugs).
Fixed it for you. ;) >:D
For those that aren't familiar, these things are tough; step on one and it just gives you a "Is that all you've got?" looks. :-DD
While flipping you the bird :-DD You're right, I did forget about the armored part. They can probably take a .22 caliber round point blank.
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Try this fine product... :-DD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBU5H62LscA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBU5H62LscA)
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While living in Johhanesburg, I had the pleasure of coming to terms with a thing they called a "Parktown Prawn", and were quite a common find in our house. These have the ability to make you consider any spiders or coackroaches as harmless friends.
McBryce.
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Try this fine product... :-DD
I've never seen a Japanese informercial before... it does not surprise me at all.
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Try this fine product... :-DD
I've never seen a Japanese informercial before... it does not surprise me at all.
You still haven't seen a Japanese Infomercial, that video is Korean. :)
McBryce.
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My little amplifier lab. Its a mess and Im a noob. I cleaned out a retired amplifier tech and it looks like an electronics graveyard. (It all works). Now if I can figure it all out...lol. Thats why I'm here I guess. Started watching Dave on youtube and found my way here. Always open for ideas or constructive criticism. Most of this stuff is going in the basement until I can make use of it. I was a big motorhead until I injured my spine and had 2 back surgeries in last 2 years. Multi level fusions. So I chose to start playing a Guitar while recovering to keep from going nuts. I had to fix a broken amplifier I had....and it kind of snowballed from there. I want to spin it into a hobby that helps pay for itself...I know I wont make a living at it....and with 18 screws in my lower back...I dont think I will get to work again. Love this site. This is the big show.
(http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad197/highluxx/IMG_0849_zpsxih18rxq.jpg)
(http://i935.photobucket.com/albums/ad197/highluxx/IMG_0850_zpsxq4d4abz.jpg)
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Not when they crawl out from under your cnc machine and are like 2 inches long..
Those are Texas Size spiders. :scared:
Come to Florida and see our 3 inch flying cockroaches (Palmetto Bugs).
We don't have the flying ones here however we do have some 3+ inch'ers here I was expecting big ones in Houston and was disappointed. Texas more than made up for it with other rather large bugs.
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Beer storage right in the lab. Excellent idea!
(http://i.imgur.com/wipuiMu.jpg)
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Not when they crawl out from under your cnc machine and are like 2 inches long..
Those are Texas Size spiders. :scared:
Come to Florida and see our armored 3 inch flying cockroaches (Palmetto Bugs).
Fixed it for you. ;) >:D
For those that aren't familiar, these things are tough; step on one and it just gives you a "Is that all you've got?" looks. :-DD
Had a few that also like to eat the rodent bait with no ill effect, and when you step on them they just about carry you off.
As to the Parktown Prawn, they can be nasty litte buggers, though now that the Mynah birds have made it to Igoli they apparently do enjoy them as a nice snack.
Then you get those nice tasty Mopani worms, best served dried and deep fried.
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Ah, Mopani worms. I used to eat buckets of those in my local.
McBryce.
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my workbench, got into learning electronics a few months ago
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/c8c821c64d15eafa32a82763064b2be2.jpg)(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/12/ed7d1c45a94e54804aaaae529c05976d.jpg)
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As of today, everything electronic or ham radio related that is in my apartment has been organized. Time to get to work on some projects now! (Still have to retrieve all the stuff that is still left in the old house and organize the stuff in my storage unit.)
(http://i.imgur.com/dZvnulc.jpg?1)
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Mine little corner
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Im actually going to build my first work bench in a few days. Might take me a week to complete it. I'd definitely like to post it here.
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Im actually going to build my first work bench in a few days. Might take me a week to complete it. I'd definitely like to post it here.
Please Do; there are a lot of good suggestions here.
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=188474;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=188476;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=188478;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=188480;image)
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My lab currently
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My lab currently
Jerker desk, /envious :)
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My lab currently
Jerker desk, /envious :)
I got lucky and scored it for free from a customer.... swing arm and all! :-)
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@GK
Last picture in the sequence.
Please educate me on what the equipment is.
Thanks.
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Little baby 10kW AM transmitter, and another lower power one, Then a MANPACK radio tranciever ex military, and at the bottom a spectrum analyser.
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Thanks SeanB.
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What was the large transmitter (exciter) used for. It looks the same at the type used by the BBC World Service.
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@GK
Last picture in the sequence.
Please educate me on what the equipment is.
Thanks.
GK has some really really neat stuff, I used to follow his posts closely....then he accused me of stalking him. :-DD
Admire from a safe distance. ;)
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...and at the bottom a spectrum analyser.
Looks like the one I've got, only mine is yellow. Switching it on is a daring task, hoping the phase is not full at that moment.
Only transportable by one person if you take the units out :o
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Please tell me more about this sexy piece of equipment on the left... I'm guessing it's a really high power RF amp. What band?
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=188480;image)
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Please tell me more about this sexy piece of equipment on the left..
Obviously a teleportation booth. But an older one, the new ones have quantum tachyon louvers, one or even two programmable locking oscillators, padded seats, and cup holders.
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Please tell me more about this sexy piece of equipment on the left..
Obviously a teleportation booth. But an older one, the new ones have quantum tachyon louvers, one or even two programmable locking oscillators, padded seats, and cup holders.
And they are monitored by an Arduino.
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Little baby 10kW AM transmitter, and another lower power one, Then a MANPACK radio tranciever ex military, and at the bottom a spectrum analyser.
Not quite. AWA model CTM2K - Does AM 2kW carrier. Is big because it was 1) designed for continuous MCW operation 2) is not plate modulated; it is a low-level modulated linear amplifier. It's original home was here: http://coastradio.info/adelaide.html (http://coastradio.info/adelaide.html) To be resurrected on the 630m HAM band.
The AT21 (AMT150) was designed to be transportable but it requires 110V/240V mains and it is not a manpack. The power supply unit weight alone is specified at 170 lb. The one in the middle is a twin (independent) channel CW/AM/SSB HF band linear amplifier/transmitter that originally lived at Adelaide airport. Does about 1.5kW PEP max on SSB.
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@ GK.
What is the custom gear in your racks, on the 1st/2nd pics.
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@ GK.
What is the custom gear in your racks, on the 1st/2nd pics.
Spectrum analyser (displaying on the SVGA screen).
This: http://www.glensstuff.com/fouriersynthchargen/fouriersynthchargen.htm (http://www.glensstuff.com/fouriersynthchargen/fouriersynthchargen.htm)
This: http://www.glensstuff.com/3dpu/3dpu.htm (http://www.glensstuff.com/3dpu/3dpu.htm)
This: http://www.glensstuff.com/nandcounter/nandcounter.htm (http://www.glensstuff.com/nandcounter/nandcounter.htm)
This: http://www.users.on.net/~glenk/thd/thd.htm (http://www.users.on.net/~glenk/thd/thd.htm)
And an audio noise measurement system
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Needed a computer table for the eastern corner of the shack. Desired something basic and sturdy as it might occasionally get a heavy piece of equipment plonked on top. Trawled through the on-line stores of various local furniture retailers but couldn't really find anything suitable. So I bought some 30mm RHS, two melamine shelving planks and an aerosol can of flat black spray paint and made one. Out of pocket about $110.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=188674;image)
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Not trying to be a jerk..but that bench looks kinds sketchy.
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Not trying to be a jerk.
It probably just comes naturally.
.but that bench looks kinds sketchy.
The bench itself is made of two horizontal beams of industrial pallet racking uprights with multiple cross-bracing along the entire length. I step up onto the bench routinely and it is as solid as the concrete floor.
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Not trying to be a jerk.
It probably just comes naturally.
.but that bench looks kinds sketchy.
The bench itself is made of two horizontal beams of industrial pallet racking uprights with multiple cross-bracing along the entire length. I step up onto the bench routinely and it is as solid as the concrete floor.
It looks good
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If it was for a heavy-use workbench then the lack of bracing between legs or the legs supporting the top only by the welds might be problems. As a computer desk/bench it looks great, nice job.
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The frame is sturdier than it looks. The legs are actually square but the camera makes them look splayed in the photo of the painted frame due to perspective distortion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_%28photography%29
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You certainly can't buy anything new that well built for $110 IME. 8) And nicely done to boot. :-+
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I happened to find myself at Ikea recently and saw some small $8 tables....ehhhh why not? :-DD
Very happy with them, I couldn't bring myself to drop a couple of hundred dollarydoos for proper shelving or open frame racks.
Sorry for the slightly wonky photo, I was trying to contain my laughter from seeing cheap Ikea furniture surrounded by probably around an original RRP of >$50k worth of gear. What a great time as a hobbyist to get into electronics, so many bargains out there if you're patient (and luckily I am because I'm cheap).
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These IKEA tables are famous for being 19" rack compatible :)
https://wiki.eth0.nl/index.php/LackRack
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The frame is sturdier than it looks. The legs are actually square but the camera makes them look splayed in the photo of the painted frame due to perspective distortion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_distortion_%28photography%29
I would guess that it is sturdier than 95% of commercial offerings for computer desks. Most of the IKEA stuff is short screws into particleboard. What kind of welder/welding did you use? I have no experience but would like to learn.
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Needed a computer table for the eastern corner of the shack. ...
Cool, good to see someone else in here welding.
Nice job. But personally I'd have put some small braces at least on the rear legs. Welds just at the corners like that have to deal with very great leverage, and if they fail they'll not give any warning.
Also did you know that the place which sells that steel, very likely also has plastic plugs for the open ends. They hammer in. Depends on whether you care what it looks like. They also help stop the steel insides from rusting.
Heh. I see you bought one of those red G-clamps with the screw foot made of sliced cheese. Which bent then fell off after the first time you used it?
Me too. Actually they are quite useful when you want to clamp with a point rather than a flat foot.
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Each leg is welded along all (4) mated edges; the welds will never fail. I could only find end caps in 25mm and 32mm. The RHS is 30mm. I bought the 32's on a punt that they could perhaps still be hammered in but they couldn't. I can't remember how many times I used the red clamp before the swiveling foot broke off; I've owned that clamp for ~15 years.
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Assuming the welds have proper fusion, which I have every reason to believe they do, the table will last just fine forever. That said, cross braces would inhibit the ability for any flexing to occur, but for an electronics table you would not expect this, it's not as if you'll be rebuilding engines or something on top of it.
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Hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone here has ever built a workbench or desk using black pipe with floor flanges and t-joints as legs? How stable was it when completed? Did it have any wobble to it at all? How about when you leaned on it?
I am going to be building a workbench in the next couple of days and I'm trying to decide on a design. I usually use wood for everything, wood being pine 2x4's, because their cheap. Kind of. I wanted to try the black pipe method because I saw another dude online make some cool furniture using it. I like ridiculously solid and heavy furniture though.
I attached a PDF and a JPG of what I have now. Im pretty set on the design, but if you have suggestions fire away.
The woods surfaces are going to be 2" thick. The work surface will use just under 36 2x4's. I will cut them down using a table saw and then clamp and glue them together. This will be by far the largest surface I have ever made. Still trying to figure out how I'm doing to do it. The holes you see in the surfaces will be plugged.
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Cool, good to see someone else in here welding.
FWIW, both of mine are welded together as well.
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Each leg is welded along all (4) mated edges; the welds will never fail.
True, because what would actually fail is the 2mm steel they are attached to. Levers are great, except when they do what you don't want.
I can't remember how many times I used the red clamp before the swiveling foot broke off; I've owned that clamp for ~15 years.
Here's the type I thought it was:
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Assuming the welds have proper fusion, which I have every reason to believe they do, the table will last just fine forever. That said, cross braces would inhibit the ability for any flexing to occur, but for an electronics table you would not expect this, it's not as if you'll be rebuilding engines or something on top of it.
I dunno - I have some older HP test gear that is many things, but light in weight is definitely NOT one of them. Stack a few of them up and before you know it you've got some serious mass piled up...
It is a nice looking bench.
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Hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone here has ever built a workbench or desk using black pipe with floor flanges and t-joints as legs? How stable was it when completed? Did it have any wobble to it at all? How about when you leaned on it?
Not sure how loose the T joints will be, are they clamp type or grubscrew?
You could maybe add 2 diagonals at rear and underneath using scaffolding clamps, that would stiffen it up.
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There will be no welding. The floor flanges and t-joints and all threaded. Everything just screws together. The flanges are going to be bolted to the surfaces with .25" bolts and t-nuts embedded in the surfaces.
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Ok, ill look into stiffening up the pipes. Or maybe ill just make wooden legs like ive always done. Ehhhh.
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There will be no welding. The floor flanges and t-joints and all threaded. Everything just screws together. The flanges are going to be bolted to the surfaces with .25" bolts and t-nuts embedded in the surfaces.
Ahh threaded fittings. :-+
You didn't state dimensions, for a long bench it might still have some wobble. :-\
Bolting it down will definitely help stability.
Add diagonals IF required.
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There will be no welding. The floor flanges and t-joints and all threaded. Everything just screws together. The flanges are going to be bolted to the surfaces with .25" bolts and t-nuts embedded in the surfaces.
Ahh threaded fittings. :-+
You didn't state dimensions, for a long bench it might still have some wobble. :-\
Bolting it down will definitely help stability.
Add diagonals IF required.
The PDF I uploaded has all the dimensions. The desk is 7' long. The longest pipe, parallel with the length of the desk, is 75" long. I'm going to do some more work with the design. Might be better to just use wood with everything. Cheaper too.
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Each leg is welded along all (4) mated edges; the welds will never fail.
True, because what would actually fail is the 2mm steel they are attached to. Levers are great, except when they do what you don't want.
There is no way in a million years that 30mm RHS will give out save for fork-lifting a car on top of the table.
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I was just wondering if anyone here has ever built a workbench or desk using black pipe with floor flanges and t-joints as legs? How stable was it when completed? Did it have any wobble to it at all? How about when you leaned on it?
My dream bench will be an all aluminum 80/20 setup. No need for welding, just screwed together. "Industrial Erector Set"
https://8020.net/gallery
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I was just wondering if anyone here has ever built a workbench or desk using black pipe with floor flanges and t-joints as legs? How stable was it when completed? Did it have any wobble to it at all? How about when you leaned on it?
My dream bench will be an all aluminum 80/20 setup. No need for welding, just screwed together. "Industrial Erector Set"
https://8020.net/gallery
I have a thing for building all my own stuff. I could post some stuff that I built just a bit ago. I built a desk for my audio workstation and a queen size bed frame. I love building stuff, especially unique stuff.
I know exactly what I'm going to do with my EE work bench. It just hit.... It's going to be awesome.
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I've recently had an office / workshop built at the end of the garden. It's not very big but a huge increase in space over what is available inside the house. The other half is pleased to have regained her study (worktops, cupboards, and floor), living room table, and lost a random collection of boxes hidden away where I could find space. The reflow oven, hidden under the RS box and box of reels, was in the conservatory. To compare my previous working space was just about the size of the bench top with the computer on it, for everything.
Downside is the commute to work has extended to almost a minute, longer if I don't want to spill my tea. :)
One external pic to give the idea, the internal shots are very much WIP. I was having a tidy up to accommodate my new Tigger Challenge winnings of a DSO3014T that arrived today and a loan 34465A after mine went back DOA (flickering screen and replacement ETA of Feb 2016 ???). The DS2072 will be going soon once I get to grips with the 3014T - already love the touch screen.
I managed to build the desk so it doesn't have legs at the front, just the ends and back, for scale the long bench is 3.5m from wall to wall. It's free standing and pretty solid. you sit on it without any problems. Next is to sort out some shelves above the bench and some under bench cable tidies to keep everything from hanging around.
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Nice desk, and plenty of natural light as well, and a view to go along with it. Just have to put in an intercom for delivery of fresh tea, or put in a small bar fridge for the milk and a small kettle, along with a tiny basin, for those cleaning times.
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Nice desk, and plenty of natural light as well, and a view to go along with it. Just have to put in an intercom for delivery of fresh tea, or put in a small bar fridge for the milk and a small kettle, along with a tiny basin, for those cleaning times.
Thanks, the bench is 25mm ply + 6mm Oak veneer MDF for the top, so if I bugger it up I can just replace the MDF sheets. The frame is 4"x 2" oak with oak newel posts from eBay cut down for legs, one of the uncut ones (always order a spare!) is acting as a cable holder at the moment.
The daylight is great, although the wire halogens that came with the office will get swapped at some point for LED. Probably run an LED strip under the leading edge of one of the shelves too.
No intercom, but the first thing apart from power and data hookup was to extend the doorbell down there. I have to walk back to the house for tea and supplies, or I get a text from the other half.
Still, gets me out of the office as I go through quite a bit of tea ;D
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Very nice JC101, do you mind sharing the name of the company you got that from or more details on the construction methods?
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Very nice JC101, do you mind sharing the name of the company you got that from or more details on the construction methods?
It's an off the shelf office company in the UK, you can literally design it on their website, it's all modular.
The pic attached is when the base went down. It's a metal skin around insulation and that sits on a metal ring beam with a number of concrete pads dotted around underneath. My floor is 3 such panels and they have a labyrinth joint between them. The result is the office is off the ground, the front left corner is level with the paving but the back right is a couple of inches up as the paving sloped slightly for drainage. The walls go onto the wood you can see in the pic. I had to remove the block paving from under the footprint before they arrived.
The roof is the green bits in the pic, again metal with foam insulation inside. Overlapping joints this time for when they screw it all together. The walls are also pre-fab, standard is white melamine faced chipboard, kingspan foil backed insulation, moisture barrier then an air gap before the external wood cladding. I also had it plaster boarded and skimmed, for additional insulation and because I would go nuts looking at the melamine and it's joints, plus it's virtually impossible to repair or paint it in the future or make good screw holes and the like.
Not the cheapest around, and I did look at a few. I went to see their factory & showroom before placing the order and so far very pleased. 3 Days to build the thing itself, plus the plastering and final fix etc. I saved some money by painting it and sorting out the electrics down to it, just had a sparky hook it up and issue the required paperwork. I didn't take their floor and had Karndean put down, nicer on the feet and if damaged it's easy to replace a "plank" as required.
It's called "The Garden Office" but is actually a different company underneath, they sell various designs under different branded websites but make them all in the same factory.
http://www.thegardenoffice.co.uk (http://www.thegardenoffice.co.uk)
After checking with the accountant, it went through my company, to recover the VAT. But I don't mind spending the money to get something I can stand being in for hours at a time.
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It turned out great inside jc101. Nicely done. :-+
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Another happy garden office / workshop customer here. I had a minor problem with the foundations of mine sinking and the company were just as keen to sort it out as they were to sell it to me. You can tell a more about a company by how they deal with problems than if you don't have any.
https://0xfred.wordpress.com/2015/06/28/a-new-workshop-part-2/
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I've recently had an office / workshop built at the end of the garden. It's not very big but a huge increase in space over what is available inside the house. The other half is pleased to have regained her study (worktops, cupboards, and floor), living room table, and lost a random collection of boxes hidden away where I could find space. The reflow oven, hidden under the RS box and box of reels, was in the conservatory. To compare my previous working space was just about the size of the bench top with the computer on it, for everything.
Downside is the commute to work has extended to almost a minute, longer if I don't want to spill my tea. :)
One external pic to give the idea, the internal shots are very much WIP. I was having a tidy up to accommodate my new Tigger Challenge winnings of a DSO3014T that arrived today and a loan 34465A after mine went back DOA (flickering screen and replacement ETA of Feb 2016 ???). The DS2072 will be going soon once I get to grips with the 3014T - already love the touch screen.
I managed to build the desk so it doesn't have legs at the front, just the ends and back, for scale the long bench is 3.5m from wall to wall. It's free standing and pretty solid. you sit on it without any problems. Next is to sort out some shelves above the bench and some under bench cable tidies to keep everything from hanging around.
Dude that is awesome!!!
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Thanks for info, very interesting units. How's the insulation in those things guys? What heating systems are you running?
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I would personally use a shipping container covered in timber to look like a shed, problem is some scally round here would try to steal the rims or wheels of off it that it doesn't have.
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Ok this is what I'm going with as the design for my bench. I attached a PDF with dimensions. Let me know what you think. All the holes in the surface will be plugged. There's going to be t-nuts in those holes.
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Thanks for info, very interesting units. How's the insulation in those things guys? What heating systems are you running?
Insulation in the roof and floor, its a few inches thick. The walls have foil backed insulation sheets you get in new builds, that is a couple of inches thick. It's all double glazed with standard units found in new builds etc.
Heating wise it came with an oil filled radiator, and I also have a fan heater. That said I leave the oil radiator on low overnight and turn it off when I go in, most of the time so far i don't need much else with equipment on in there. Lowest ambient has been 3c or so, then the fan heater turns on for 30 seconds or so every now and again.
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Let me know what you think.
Instead of all the small metal/wood horizontal braces I'd use one big one (2 by 8?) attached with two bolts to the steel legs instead of 1, that gives you the equivalent of some diagonal bracing.
I contemplated a desk with a frame from those screwed pipe fittings as well but the cost of all the little pieces added up too fast when I started to add diagonal bracing. Just the legs seems a good compromise.
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Ok this is what I'm going with as the design for my bench. I attached a PDF with dimensions. Let me know what you think. All the holes in the surface will be plugged. There's going to be t-nuts in those holes.
How deep are the shelves (not listed in the .pdf)?
FWIW, you'd probably want the upper shelves as wide as the entire bench like you originally had (you'd be surprised how fast you can fill them). Bench height is a little tall IMHO (accustomed to a tall bench @ ~ 36"), but if you've the right stool/drafting chair, it may not be a problem (no idea as to your height). As per the bottom shelf, go with a solid piece of material with some horizontal bracing beneath so it won't sag when you add weight (i.e. board/s glued & screwed in the vertical edge horizontally for the entire width of the shelf; say 1x4", preferably a hardwood rather than pine). You might also want to put a center brace to the floor out of either wood or more threaded steel (4 flanges & 2 pieces of threaded steel pipe).
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My bench design is pretty simple, the aim was to have as few joints as possible. So less work and relying on the oak frame to take the strain.
All the joints are pocket hole fixings, so the ends of the "beams" are attached to each leg, and where they cross to each other. The 25mm ply is also attached to the frame also by pocket hole screws from the frame up into the top. This means no visible fixings and the tops are free from anything. The top MDF layer is held on simply by a bead of silicone, enough to stop it moving about and easy enough to remove should it be needed. A bit of iron on edging hides the layered top from view, again easy to remove should it be required.
There is less than 1cm clearance between the bench and the walls, so I've put in 80mm holes in strategic places for cables to pass through. This is large enough to let me drop a 13a UK plug through rather than have to poke an IEC up through a hole from underneath.
Once the wood arrived, only took a few hours to put it together. The longest bit was working out how to use and setup the pocket hole jig to get the depth and angles right. It doesn't exactly match the dimensions on the drawing as the builders merchants were too exact in their cutting, but it saved me the job. The offcuts from the ply sheets will probably be used for the shelves, and I cut a bit to go under the reflow oven with castors to make it easy to pull out if needed. It's attached to the fume extractor so no issues using it in situ under the desk.
It is a very simple design, but also very strong once everything is screwed together. Shelves will probably be simple twin slot rails and what ply I have left or 18mm ply, I looked at having them mounted on the desk but decided against that in order to keep the top as free as possible. The fume extractor arm on the desk will probably be as far as they go along the wall.
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I dont generally like using large solid pieces of wood like 2x8's etc, because they tend to be warped to all hell or will. I like to make my own boards because they are straight and true. Ill see about making some changes to the bottom floor thing. I dont plan on really storing anything down there other than my feet when im sitting at the bench but you never know. Mabe ill add two more, or how about the front and back brace will be a whole 2x4. I think ill do that.
Each wood brace as notches at each end that will be cut using a forstner bit. This way the pipes will fit snug into these grooves.
The top shelves are 18" wide and 5' in length. The desk is 7' long. I have the shelves 2' shorter because i am going to have some displays mounted to the desk where the shelves fall short. If i ever need more shelf space, i could probably add another level without having to worry about it tipping over or ill just building another desk when that time comes.
The space between the shelves being 12". Do you think thats to much? Is there any piece of equipment, that could fit on that 18" shelf, thats 12" or even greater?
Maybe ill add some more horizontal braces all around.
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Do you have a bunch of old T&M gear that you need 18" deep shelves? I have 12" shelves and the only thing that hung off the back was my Tek 2235 scope until I built a cart from scrap lumber in the garage. 12" height will let you stack stuff, which will be useful as you only have 2 shelves.
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I have the shelves 2' shorter because i am going to have some displays mounted to the desk where the shelves fall short.
That makes sense.
The space between the shelves being 12". Do you think thats to much? Is there any piece of equipment, that could fit on that 18" shelf, thats 12" or even greater?
Generally speaking, it should be fine. But there are pieces of gear taller than that, such as a Tektronix 7934 (deeper than 18" too).
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I wanted test equipment at eye level but also deep shelves. The problem with deep shelves you lose work space or sit way back from your gear and the wall with a deep table.
So with that in mind I settled on longspan shelving (rated at around 300Kg/650lbs per shelf) that sits free standing right over my whole table and sliding draws (small part of it shown in crappy photo, ignore TV on table).
My table can be adjusted at any working depth and height or fully removed to use as a 360 degree work space, can even hammer on it without affecting my gear.
The longspan shelving comes in any size but I went for 2' (600mm) deep and 8' (2400mm) wide. As it's modular and free standing I can break it down, move and adjust it.
(http://i64.tinypic.com/30d84d1.jpg)
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Ok. I finished the design. I'm going to start purchasing everything I need today.
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I'd ditch those shelve bars on very bottom, as it's often to have lack of legroom. But that's me (190cm tall), could work for more average height people ..
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I'd ditch those shelve bars on very bottom, as it's often to have lack of legroom. But that's me (190cm tall), could work for more average height people ..
I agree. Space under a desk should be free up to the wall.
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I'd ditch those shelve bars on very bottom, as it's often to have lack of legroom. But that's me (190cm tall), could work for more average height people ..
I agree. Space under a desk should be free up to the wall.
I am 6' tall myself and I have a 12" storage shelf on the bottom. My bench is also 33" deep so the shelf doesn't affect leg room. Among other things, the APC Smart-UPS 1500 for all the outlets on the bench sits there.
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Any sort of shelf under a bench ends up as a foot rest which can be a real plus.
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Lol. Most likely.
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The storage shelf on the bottom is also a structural component for the desk. The desk is 34+ inches tall and 36 inches deep. Im only 5'7 so this is going to be a huge bench for me. Its going to be an expensive desk too. Argh. I need around 90 2x4's to build this desk. Thats about 200 bucks right right. Oh well.
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The storage shelf on the bottom is also a structural component for the desk. The desk is 34+ inches tall and 36 inches deep. Im only 5'7 so this is going to be a huge bench for me. Its going to be an expensive desk too. Argh. I need around 90 2x4's to build this desk. Thats about 200 bucks right right. Oh well.
Why not cut back on the 2"x4"'s to those needed for frames/support roles, and use 3/4" finish grade plywood for the surfaces of the top & shelves?
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The storage shelf on the bottom is also a structural component for the desk. The desk is 34+ inches tall and 36 inches deep. Im only 5'7 so this is going to be a huge bench for me. Its going to be an expensive desk too. Argh. I need around 90 2x4's to build this desk. Thats about 200 bucks right right. Oh well.
Why not cut back on the 2"x4"'s to those needed for frames/support roles, and use 3/4" finish grade plywood for the surfaces of the top & shelves?
Yea, that definitely has crossed my mind. It would save me a ton of time and money. I'll have to think about it long and hard, because I really had my mind set on doing the solid pine top. I made solid pine tops for another desk I use and I absolutely love it. The thing is that the surfaces for this bench are a hell of a lot larger than the other desk. The other desk has a surface that is made up of several smaller surfaces. If I did the plywood method, I would have to join several smaller pieces together to form one larger piece as I can not get home one large single piece. I think I am jsut goign to suck it up and do it the harder and more expensive route. I really want solid pine tops. Other than the desk I mentioned already, you should see the queen size bed I made. It's heavy as hell. Maybe I'll post pics of past work later.
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The storage shelf on the bottom is also a structural component for the desk. The desk is 34+ inches tall and 36 inches deep. Im only 5'7 so this is going to be a huge bench for me. Its going to be an expensive desk too. Argh. I need around 90 2x4's to build this desk. Thats about 200 bucks right right. Oh well.
Why not cut back on the 2"x4"'s to those needed for frames/support roles, and use 3/4" finish grade plywood for the surfaces of the top & shelves?
Yea, that definitely has crossed my mind. It would save me a ton of time and money. I'll have to think about it long and hard, because I really had my mind set on doing the solid pine top. I made solid pine tops for another desk I use and I absolutely love it. The thing is that the surfaces for this bench are a hell of a lot larger than the other desk. The other desk has a surface that is made up of several smaller surfaces. If I did the plywood method, I would have to join several smaller pieces together to form one larger piece as I can not get home one large single piece. I think I am jsut goign to suck it up and do it the harder and more expensive route. I really want solid pine tops. Other than the desk I mentioned already, you should see the queen size bed I made. It's heavy as hell. Maybe I'll post pics of past work later.
You'd be able to replicate the look of solid pine by veneering it on top of plywood, MDF, or particle board. That way you can save time and money, and still join pieces beneath the pine veneer without it ever being seen. ;)
Should be feasible, as that is a lot of pine to buy and time spent to plane it down and glue up if you just use 2x4's.
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The storage shelf on the bottom is also a structural component for the desk. The desk is 34+ inches tall and 36 inches deep. Im only 5'7 so this is going to be a huge bench for me. Its going to be an expensive desk too. Argh. I need around 90 2x4's to build this desk. Thats about 200 bucks right right. Oh well.
Why not cut back on the 2"x4"'s to those needed for frames/support roles, and use 3/4" finish grade plywood for the surfaces of the top & shelves?
Yea, that definitely has crossed my mind. It would save me a ton of time and money. I'll have to think about it long and hard, because I really had my mind set on doing the solid pine top. I made solid pine tops for another desk I use and I absolutely love it. The thing is that the surfaces for this bench are a hell of a lot larger than the other desk. The other desk has a surface that is made up of several smaller surfaces. If I did the plywood method, I would have to join several smaller pieces together to form one larger piece as I can not get home one large single piece. I think I am jsut goign to suck it up and do it the harder and more expensive route. I really want solid pine tops. Other than the desk I mentioned already, you should see the queen size bed I made. It's heavy as hell. Maybe I'll post pics of past work later.
You'd be able to replicate the look of solid pine by veneering it on top of plywood, MDF, or particle board. That way you can save time and money, and still join pieces beneath the pine veneer without it ever being seen. ;)
Should be feasible, as that is a lot of pine to buy and time spent to plane it down and glue up if you just use 2x4's.
Yea I know. Its not really a matter of it looking like pine. Im a bit weird and you would have to know me personally to understand. I'll know its not solid pine and every time I go to sit down at the bench, it will haunt me. Haunt me. I am a bit of a perfectionist as well. I have remade things in the past numerous times because even the smallest flaws are overwhelming to me.
I plan on spending a lot of time at this bench so I think I will just do it the way I had it planned out for a while now. I know its kind fo stupid, but for me it's not.
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Should be feasible, as that is a lot of pine to buy and time spent to plane it down and glue up if you just use 2x4's.
My uncle made a benchtop for my shed that way using meranti (I think). It looked better than my dinner table especially after I finished it with laquer so it is worth the trouble if you want a good looking desk.
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I totally agree. Its not just good looking, its solid. A solid piece of wood and its such a beautiful thing. Even cheap pine, if its done right, looks amazing.
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I ordered all the plumbing parts needed for the work bench. I'm wondering... you think it would be OK if I created a worklog here for this bench? It's going to be a lot of work and very satisfying to watch. I haven't done a worklog in years.
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Please, but make it a separate thread, and just link it here.
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Please, but make it a separate thread, and just link it here.
Most definitely. Thanks.
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Please, but make it a separate thread, and just link it here.
Seconded. :-+
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What a mess...lol
(http://i.imgur.com/YjJXeGN.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/3DFwAC5.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/YHBIKEG.jpg)
Something about a pig on stilts comes to mind...lol
To much stuff, to little time, to little space...lol
Billy
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What a mess...lol
Naw - I seen a lot worse ... a whole lot worse. ;)
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Small update on my bench...
The used flea-market table:
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/asunto/Tampere/2015/poyta3.JPG)
Start of the project (XP-code is a fake, so thanks no need to remind about that)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta1.jpg)
Measuring correct distance for legs
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta2.jpg)
Currently:
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta3.jpg)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta4.jpg)
I wanted to make modular design so I can make another shelf without problem and it is super sturdy, you can mount tool racks to legs etc. Also shelve is not bolted down to main table and main table is not bolted to its legs. Easy to disassemble if needed.
Now just have to hope University dumps a good oscilloscope and some old bench power supply units in spring/summer.
To do:
- Lighting (led strips probably)
- Tool racks side of the legs
- ESD / earthing / better electrical installation with timer switch
- Mount for microscope
- More tools
- Another shelf
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Is it my imagination or was this thread >110 pages long?
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Is it my imagination or was this thread >110 pages long?
Yep, until Dave changed some settings:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/important-poll-new-forum-categories-reorg/msg840473/#msg840473 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/important-poll-new-forum-categories-reorg/msg840473/#msg840473)
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I wanted to make modular design so I can make another shelf without problem and it is super sturdy, you can mount tool racks to legs etc. Also shelve is not bolted down to main table and main table is not bolted to its legs. Easy to disassemble if needed.
I would seriously consider bolting the shelf down onto those legs to prevent lateral movement, and probably not so urgent but the even the table to the legs if you put something heavy on it. That shelf will end in tears, trust me on this.
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I wanted to make modular design so I can make another shelf without problem and it is super sturdy, you can mount tool racks to legs etc. Also shelve is not bolted down to main table and main table is not bolted to its legs. Easy to disassemble if needed.
I would seriously consider bolting the shelf down onto those legs to prevent lateral movement, and probably not so urgent but the even the table to the legs if you put something heavy on it. That shelf will end in tears, trust me on this.
Thanks for concern but I tried to shake workbench around and both things were nice and sturdy. Shelf should become even more sturdy when more stuff on it. Those table legs weight 30kg each so they are not rocky or anything. One of the reasons why I bought it :-+
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Yep, until Dave changed some settings:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/important-poll-new-forum-categories-reorg/msg840473/#msg840473 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/important-poll-new-forum-categories-reorg/msg840473/#msg840473)
Thank god for that, thought I was going senile!
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Yep, until Dave changed some settings:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/important-poll-new-forum-categories-reorg/msg840473/#msg840473 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/important-poll-new-forum-categories-reorg/msg840473/#msg840473)
Thank god for that, thought I was going senile!
The former being what happened does not necessarily preclude the latter also being the case... :P :P
<ducking>
-Pat
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:-DD
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Hi, my first post here in this topic.
After I manage to finish the workbench (waiting for some parts, and for more $$) I update the photo! :)
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Not mine, this is from rfdude.com
Example of using shelving behind the table (useful for larger gear).
(http://www.rfdude.com/images/lab_07052004_big.JPG)
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Nice shelves of gear, but why on Earth hasn't rfdude re-hung that light batten?
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Nice shelves of gear, but why on Earth hasn't rfdude re-hung that light batten?
TOCXO?
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TOCXO?
OK, I give up. Google, Urban Dictionary and encyclopediadramatica don't know it, and neither do I.
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I'm guessing it was meant to be tcxo because the light is heating up the box beneath it which happens to be a gps disciplined temperature compensated oscillator.
I laughed :)
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I'm guessing it was meant to be tcxo because the light is heating up the box beneath it which happens to be a gps disciplined temperature compensated oscillator.
Temperature Over Compensated X-tal Oscillator :box:
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Triple Oven Controlled Crystal Oscillator ;)
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Triple Oven Controlled Crystal Oscillator ;)
Ahh yes. I was on the right track. I know my reference has the double oven in it, but I'm not sure if that is normal or not.
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My bench :
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
I have a mug of pens and pencils on my desk. So does my GF on her desk on the other side of the room. Not European here.
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
The green and black object in the left hand mug is a stubby screwdriver, so I guess that makes it a stubby holder:
(http://i.imgur.com/NHWAQnD.jpg)
Sort of European here. For the time being, at least...
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
Nope, not just European. I have coffee cups on my workbench and desk with writing implements, scissors, uRuler, etc. Been doing it forever.
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Australian stubby holder usage:
(http://www.australian-information-stories.com/images/facts-fun-beer.jpg)
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Australian stubby holder usage:
(http://www.australian-information-stories.com/images/facts-fun-beer.jpg)
I actually use one of those stubby beer coolers (which I got in Australia) for pens and small tools. :D
McBryce.
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
Nope, not just European. I have coffee cups on my workbench and desk with writing implements, scissors, uRuler, etc. Been doing it forever.
Doesn't that make the coffee taste kind of funny?
:-DD
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
Nope, not just European. I have coffee cups on my workbench and desk with writing implements, scissors, uRuler, etc. Been doing it forever.
Doesn't that make the coffee taste kind of funny?
:-DD
I just add extra milk and sugar :-+
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
Nope, not just European. I have coffee cups on my workbench and desk with writing implements, scissors, uRuler, etc. Been doing it forever.
Doesn't that make the coffee taste kind of funny?
:-DD
I just add extra milk and sugar :-+
I love the taste of ink in the morning...
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
Nope, not just European. I have coffee cups on my workbench and desk with writing implements, scissors, uRuler, etc. Been doing it forever.
Doesn't that make the coffee taste kind of funny?
:-DD
I just add extra milk and sugar :-+
I love the taste of ink in the morning...
Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
Nope, not just European. I have coffee cups on my workbench and desk with writing implements, scissors, uRuler, etc. Been doing it forever.
Doesn't that make the coffee taste kind of funny?
:-DD
I just add extra milk and sugar :-+
I love the taste of ink in the morning...
Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
GERN flux? Indeed it does... (inside thing with a bunch of model railroaders, who each model a plant of the fictional GERN Industries on their layout). If it's GERN it's GOOD!
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Needed a computer table for the eastern corner of the shack. Desired something basic and sturdy as it might occasionally get a heavy piece of equipment plonked on top. Trawled through the on-line stores of various local furniture retailers but couldn't really find anything suitable. So I bought some 30mm RHS, two melamine shelving planks and an aerosol can of flat black spray paint and made one. Out of pocket about $110.
Red = What I see
- I wish I could weld nice like that, and make it square like that :D
Green = What she sees
- PLANTS! FRUIT! Looks like our trees! :D
:-DD
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That desk looks very much like the desks I use.
Some of the local high schools went for a refit and they sold off all the desk from the science labs.
Frames are welded 30 & 35mm steel with laminated 20mm high density particle board. Not quite MDF but still rock solid. 900 x 1800 in size.
I have a mountain of old HP gear on one and it hardly moves!
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LOL. Fruit production this year was abysmal; the buckets needed last year remain sitting unused. Nary seen a bee all summer, even with the jasmine in full bloom. The abnormal heat seemed to have killed them off and nothing got pollinated. Two tomatoes eventually grew from six plants that were full of flowers. Didn't even bother with a net on the apple tree this year, just left the handful of fruit on it to the rosellas. Still have frozen stock of pie and apple sauce from last last summer though.
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Red = What I see
- I wish I could weld nice like that, and make it square like that :D
Green = What she sees
- PLANTS! FRUIT! Looks like our trees! :D
:-DD
First thing I noticed was the lawn and thought: Why is mine always full of weeds and stray plants and doesn't look like that!
McBryce.
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Well, got a CAD rendering of what I want to build for my bench. Less the shelves. That's what the extra leg in the middle is for, to support an upgright for shelves. The left side will be the electronics side, the right side will be for model building (trains and the related items for the layout). In the corner is where I plan to put a computer which will connect to things like my oscilloscope and logic analyzer as well as the programming and control devices for the model trains. Nestles neatly in the corner of one of my spare bedrooms.
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Sharing my workbench. Mostly made of hacked Ikea shelves and brackets.
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(https://www.norwegiancreations.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/total-300x169.jpg)
More info here:
https://www.norwegiancreations.com/2016/02/embedded-desk-how-is-it-equipped-now/ (https://www.norwegiancreations.com/2016/02/embedded-desk-how-is-it-equipped-now/)
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Pens and pencils in a stubby holder, must be a European thing.
Nope, not just European. I have coffee cups on my workbench and desk with writing implements, scissors, uRuler, etc. Been doing it forever.
Doesn't that make the coffee taste kind of funny?
:-DD
I just add extra milk and sugar :-+
I love the taste of ink in the morning...
Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina
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Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina
Wow. That's just amazing. :-+ So thanks for the link Sean.
Now where to find a bottle to taste? :o >:D :-DD
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Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina
Wow. That's just amazing. :-+ So thanks for the link Sean.
Now where to find a bottle to taste? :o >:D :-DD
Greece might be a good place to start looking :)
McBryce.
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Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina
Wow. That's just amazing. :-+ So thanks for the link Sean.
Now where to find a bottle to taste? :o >:D :-DD
Greece might be a good place to start looking :)
McBryce.
Exactly. Perfect excuse for a vacation in Greece. >:D :-DD Now to start a crowd funding campaign to pay for it... :-DD
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Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina)
Wow. That's just amazing. :-+ So thanks for the link Sean.
Now where to find a bottle to taste? :o >:D :-DD
Greece might be a good place to start looking :)
McBryce.
I've tried Retsina several times at various Greek restaurants. Perhaps, I've never tried the good stuff, but somehow it always reminds me of Pine-Sol.
(http://dgc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pDGC1-10603709v380.jpg)
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Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina
Wow. That's just amazing. :-+ So thanks for the link Sean.
Now where to find a bottle to taste? :o >:D :-DD
Greece might be a good place to start looking :)
McBryce.
Exactly. Perfect excuse for a vacation in Greece. >:D :-DD Now to start a crowd funding campaign to pay for it... :-DD
Maybe you could start a battery booster crowd funded campaign. But don't make the same mistake as Batteroo. It HAS to include neodynium magnets. Everyone knows that the secret to free energy and over-unity lies in the magic that these magnets possess.
McBryce.
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My newly built work area, it's a W.I.P.
I do mostly audio repair work.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q297/dondoucette/6e2dd8df7a0f09401afa1ec8ec2a5c4e_zpsjrm87pha.jpg)
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My newly built work area, it's a W.I.P.
I do mostly audio repair work.
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q297/dondoucette/6e2dd8df7a0f09401afa1ec8ec2a5c4e_zpsjrm87pha.jpg)
Looks nice.
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Bins are to store connectors as I do pro audio and video cables. Also build some guitar pedals.
(http://i.imgur.com/cQS7OT2.jpg)
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Then you might want to give flux a try. ;) So many uses... :-DD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retsina)
Wow. That's just amazing. :-+ So thanks for the link Sean.
Now where to find a bottle to taste? :o >:D :-DD
Greece might be a good place to start looking :)
McBryce.
I've tried Retsina several times at various Greek restaurants. Perhaps, I've never tried the good stuff, but somehow it always reminds me of Pine-Sol.
(http://dgc.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pDGC1-10603709v380.jpg)
I have Greek relatives...... Never tried the pine wine, but the Greek coffee that they serve with a knife and a fork in a small cup is divine. A tip it to try some decent Ouzo, which is usable as both drink, firelighter and brake fluid, all in the same bottle.
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Speaking of ouzo, years ago I knew someone who made their own grappa-Italian moonshine. Had a very nice taste and quite strong. He told me he ran out of gas for his lawn mower once and put some grappa in to finish the job. Lawn mower ran just fine.
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Here it is, my messy bench... :-BROKE
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1514/25130768236_c9cfc1c9d4_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/EhHKRw)
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Hi all,
I enjoy tinkering with old test gear, here's my mess.
Regards
Renato
(http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii598/zs6ren/Shack%202016/20160222_181939_zpswwul4sug.jpg)
(http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii598/zs6ren/Shack%202016/20160222_181233_zpshzdrlmhm.jpg)
(http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii598/zs6ren/Shack%202016/20160222_180935_zps3tsp7vij.jpg)
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Hi all,
I enjoy tinkering with old test gear, here's my mess.
Regards
Renato
Lots of cool stuff, plus you're a ham! :-+
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Hi all,
I enjoy tinkering with old test gear, here's my mess.
Regards
Renato
Lots of cool stuff, plus you're a ham! :-+
Indeed :-+ :-+
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Hi all,
I enjoy tinkering with old test gear, here's my mess.
Regards
Renato
Impressive 1st post ! (The pictures were Renato's (him or her ?) first post ! )
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Just finished making this tiny thing, live in a small apartment so have to be really efficient about space.
(http://i.imgur.com/RpVxxM6.jpg)
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Just finished making this tiny thing, live in a small apartment so have to be really efficient about space.
(http://i.imgur.com/RpVxxM6.jpg)
Looks good. Any chance you could show details of the joints and connectors? Do you have a table saw? Good job on the top part, that is why I would like to see how you make it.
Thanks
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Just finished making this tiny thing, live in a small apartment so have to be really efficient about space.
Well done - that looks great !
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Just finished making this tiny thing, live in a small apartment so have to be really efficient about space.
Nice work. I assume the "tower" on the right is 19in standard to rackmount stuff? :)
McBryce.
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Just finished making this tiny thing, live in a small apartment so have to be really efficient about space.
Looks good. Any chance you could show details of the joints and connectors? Do you have a table saw? Good job on the top part, that is why I would like to see how you make it.
Thanks
Cheers, here http://imgur.com/a/EgmdF (http://imgur.com/a/EgmdF) is a link to an album where I've crudely drawn the screw location. Might be of help?
Just finished making this tiny thing, live in a small apartment so have to be really efficient about space.
Well done - that looks great !
Thanks m8
Just finished making this tiny thing, live in a small apartment so have to be really efficient about space.
Nice work. I assume the "tower" on the right is 19in standard to rackmount stuff? :)
McBryce.
Cheers, and nope I just measured the width of my Tektronix 2235 and set that as the driving factor. Though using a more standard length would have been more clever now that you mention it.
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Hmmm, the 2235 is a 14 or 15in case as far as I remember. So you'll be missing 5in if you get any rack-sized equipment.
McBryce.
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Hi,
I moved into a new apartment and now have a slightly bigger workbench. Old bench is on page 28 in this topic.
These drawer units with casters are great! A lot of space for tools and at the same time it's a pretty useful movable bench.
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I won't even begin to imagine what fit of rage the gerry can is for.
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Why does everyone leave such a small bench surface for actually working? Most of the benches I've seen couldn't accommodate a decent size audio amplifier, let alone a large piece of equipment.
Perhaps everyone just works on tiny little smd boards!
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That's the problem I found when looking through this thread for ideas. I work on everything from small boards all the way upto portable (camping) fridges and small ish (upto 7kva) generators. I ended up going with an electronics area and a separate area for larger items.
I have been waiting for it to be clean enough to take photos and upload here, but I don't think that's going to happen so I will take some photos and upload them anyway.
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Why does everyone leave such a small bench surface for actually working? Most of the benches I've seen couldn't accommodate a decent size audio amplifier, let alone a large piece of equipment.
Perhaps everyone just works on tiny little smd boards!
I found myself asking the same question... Then again..
My bench right now is very crowded and I have enough room to actually work on something......
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Why does everyone leave such a small bench surface for actually working? Most of the benches I've seen couldn't accommodate a decent size audio amplifier, let alone a large piece of equipment.
Perhaps everyone just works on tiny little smd boards!
That is where the drawer unit comes in handy. In the last time I repaired big VFDs (18kW), or a Kenwood transceiver. I have the disassembled gear on the drawer unit and can place it wherever I need. For smaller projects the bench space is enough for me.
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I won't even begin to imagine what fit of rage the gerry can is for.
It's only an empty water can of the german army from 1941. But maybe good for IPA ;)
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I won't even begin to imagine what fit of rage the gerry can is for.
It's only an empty water can of the german army from 1941. But maybe good for IPA ;)
That's a lot of IPA.
You could turn the jerry can into an amusing wall installation. Make a nice neat frame and mounting hooks for it, plus a box of matches under a glass enclosure. Stencil the jerry can with something like "If all hope abandoned, break glass."
Probably better not actually have IPA/petrol in the can. Some people can be so literal minded.
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I won't even begin to imagine what fit of rage the gerry can is for.
It's only an empty water can of the german army from 1941. But maybe good for IPA ;)
That's a lot of IPA.
You could turn the jerry can into an amusing wall installation. Make a nice neat frame and mounting hooks for it, plus a box of matches under a glass enclosure. Stencil the jerry can with something like "If all hope abandoned, break glass."
Probably better not actually have IPA/petrol in the can. Some people can be so literal minded.
Of course, you must have it all next to the big red button that says "DON'T PUSH!"
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Messed up but will do...repairing a Behringer mixer..just resting for a while and reading some stuff here in EEVBLOG
(http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/ii538/genebaq/IMG_0179_zpsz6r0rska.jpg) (http://s1258.photobucket.com/user/genebaq/media/IMG_0179_zpsz6r0rska.jpg.html)
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my lab mainly consists of random electronic junk im probing and the multimeter with a blown fuse i borrowed from my neighbor :-//
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I like a clean uncluttered desk.. :)
The desk is about 85cm deep - that's about 33 inches. Nice and spacious :)
I mostly repair amplifiers (solid state) / (full auto / linear) turntables / anything audio - so that amount of space is nice to have.
The large screen in the corner is perfect to display schematics, etc.. while you're poking around with the DMM/scope or when designing some boards. And yes, one of the DMM's is the dreaded Vichy VC99 >:D It's good enough for what I do.
During daytime, I get a nice amount of natural light (facing south) - so it's a pleasure to work at :) Sorry for the grainy picture, it was late in the evening... :)
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Hi,
I moved into a new apartment and now have a slightly bigger workbench. Old bench is on page 28 in this topic.
These drawer units with casters are great! A lot of space for tools and at the same time it's a pretty useful movable bench.
How much for that lovely Faketronix appliance? :D
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After a lot of thought and looking at benches I finally set out to build my own. I'ts nearly finished. Need to get the computer monitor and lighting sorted out but I am very pleased for now.
I'll try to tidy it up a bit (I have a hard time no getting distracted with other projects that tend to take up half of the space...) and take some photos. I'ts changed alot from my original plans I made in CAD. Keep posting inpiring benches (that means any bench that is made to solve a particular problem :-/O )
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Update... Pic of 1/2 the shop in progress. Yes, it's a complete and total mess in this picture. Cleaned up since.
Old shop = 20x50 building, heated, air conditioned, insulated, etc. Well lit. 3ft bench all the way around the walls plus movable tables in the middle.
New shop = 30x80 building, heated, but not air conditioned yet (in work), insulated, sound proofed. Only 1/2 done so far. Remaining half in work now. ETA of another few months. ~3ft deep work bench all the way around, roughly 130ft+ of work bench. Repurposed 18" tall kitchen cabinets above the bench, 22 installed so far, another ~30 to go, 2ft deep shelf over the top of the cabinets. 200 amp service to the building. Concrete floors front and rear. Plan on laying down some of that rubber flooring near the work benches...take care of the foot fatigue. In-floor radiant heat to the back half of the building (the part that's not done yet). R60 in the ceiling, total R22 in the concrete block walls, R12 on the 16ft garage door. 8 south facing single hung insulated 36x24 windows. 2- 5KW electric heaters in the front, 2 more in the back. 2- 4ftx8ft 'tables' made from 12 kitchen base cabinets with a piece of 3/4" ply over the top of each, both on castoring wheels. Enough base cabinets left over to build 3 more of them. Total of 1.5KW of fluorescent lights in the front half, 2KW planned for the back half where the 'clean work' will take place, including another roughly 1KW of lighting under the overhead cabinets shining directly down on all of the workbenches.
All it's missing is a killer stereo system to blast out some Iron Maiden while I'm doing the sensitive stuff.
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Here is a current photo of my electronics workbench.
This is only 1/8 of my shed, the rest of for other hobbies.
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Here is a current photo of my electronics workbench.
This is only 1/8 of my shed, the rest of for other hobbies.
Is that some core memory?
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Yep, that is 8K of core memory. I may get the microscope camera onto it and post some photos.
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Hey, I have one of those "Live free or die" UNIX plates too. :)
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Here is a current photo of my electronics workbench.
This is only 1/8 of my shed, the rest of for other hobbies.
But did you win the 3D printer???? (competition web page on your screen)
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Here's a nerdgasm for y'all. Last night, getting some firmware working for a geostationary satellite due for launch at the end of the year. The first time I can remember actually really needing two spec ans at the same time.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/photobucket391/1623F278-6EEE-490E-84F7-83072FA07059_zpsheafhq27.jpg)
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Here's a nerdgasm for y'all.
Oh oh oh ... :phew:
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Howard
Is that an analogue or digital transponder?
Dick
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Howard
Is that an analogue or digital transponder?
Dick
Digital and real time regenerating, it's to do with normalising the passband from multiple uplinks.
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Do I spot a Red Pitaya?
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Howard
I'm not sure what you mean by normalising the passband for different uplinks. Are you referring to the simultaneous strong/weak station AGC problem?
I designed and built an analogue transponder a few years ago and came head to head with the problem above. I considered multiple crystal filters to split up the passband each with their own AGC but it became a bit impractical. It was an interesting project which I may re-visit.
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Howard
I'm not sure what you mean by normalising the passband for different uplinks. Are you referring to the simultaneous strong/weak station AGC problem?
I designed and built an analogue transponder a few years ago and came head to head with the problem above. I considered multiple crystal filters to split up the passband each with their own AGC but it became a bit impractical. It was an interesting project which I may re-visit.
Yes that is the application, multiple uplinks on a transponder and providing a channelised AGC by digitising the transponder passband, applying a dynamically calculated filter, then passing it back to the analogue domain for retransmission of a uniform passband on the downlink. It is complicated a little in this application as this is for a large number of narrowband uplinks with little frequency coordination, so the filtering is quite ganular. It also does a few other things such as a telemetry modulator and a concatenated block/interleaver/convolution FEC implementation.
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Very interesting. Good luck with it. I hope you manage to get a launch soon.
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Very interesting. Good luck with it. I hope you manage to get a launch soon.
It's based on some work I first published and demonstrated back in 2005(!) Coincidentally and separately at the time another group who I know well were also working on the same thing in the US: it was pretty much an obvious solution at the time to this problem as software defined radio had become well adopted by then. The concepts have been used since, but due to ITAR and the complexities of gaining a TAA for a non-US citizen at the time, I wasn't involved in the design or implementation of the first space deployment, other than to supply a low phase noise LO reference, hardly the most exciting part of the project!
The bit of the project from back then that I still want to deploy that's yet to find someone brave enough are the digitally controlled LINC and EER bits. We're still using standard TWTAs as on-board commodity parts.
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Howard
I seem to remember reading some work done on a digital implementation of a linear transponder a few years ago. It may well have been yours. It's definitely the way to go. I wonder what the current consumption is like. Isn't the digital solution a little power hungry though?
My transponder was all analogue and I opted simply to run the PA in back-off to get the IMD products down. My output power was only +30dBm so efficiency wasn't too much of a concern.
For SSB anything better than -30dB below PEP is probably a waste of time and effort anyway.
I did briefly consider EER as per the Carl Meinzer AO7 implementation but the power saving wasn't worthwhile at my power level.
For a while I did get fixated with getting the PA IMD way down but for analogue signals the reward/effort ratio isn't good.
Why are you using TWTAs and not SSPAs anyway? I believe SSPAs are being used at X-band already.
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The EER is very loosely based on Karl's work on HELAPS but we added quite a few changes as this was working at much higher frequencies. I know Karl fairly well, I've met him at Marburg at his old facilities there and elsewhere over the years.
The choice of TWTAs was simply due to customer requirements and mitigating against risk of non-delivery on a very short delivery timescale. A wise desision IMHO given the requirements I'm aware of, but it doesn't stop the inner nerd wanting a platform to try out their stuff!
30dB is exactly the dynamic range of the passband that I work to by the way.
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Howard
I dug through some articles that I had filed and found a relatively recent one of yours about a digital transponder using STELLA. It was very interesting but a little beyond me as far as the DSP is concerned.
The passband AGC shaping was interesting and only practical with brickwall DSP filters I suppose.
I had been racking my brain trying to come up with some sort of analogue anti-phase scheme to null out the offending strong signal, to no avail.
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After looking at this pic I think I better get better organized.
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After looking at this pic I think I better get better organized.
good to see that I'm not the only one with a DSA :-+
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Although it is the size of a small refrigerator I love using my DSA 602.
What about you?
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When I first joined the blog back in October 2015 my "bench" looked like this. I was just getting back into the hobby after many years of mostly inactive...
The latest. Still a work in progress but I've been getting equipment out of storage and fixed up and put back into service.
The laptop can easily be removed leaving a decent, but not huge, work area.
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Your bench is coming along really well.
:-+ :-+
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Your bench is coming along really well.
:-+ :-+
Thanks. I forgot to mention that the bench is my own design and built from scratch about 20 years ago.
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Your bench is coming along really well.
:-+ :-+
Thanks. I forgot to mention that the bench is my own design and built from scratch about 20 years ago.
Nicely done!
-Pat
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Your bench is coming along really well.
:-+ :-+
Thanks. I forgot to mention that the bench is my own design and built from scratch about 20 years ago.
Nicely done!
-Pat
Since the bench is in the living room when the mood strikes me I can close up the shelving to make it look more "presentable". But I generally leave it open. I don't have a permanent "She who must be obeyed" living here so I don't have to contend with that drama. But when she does visit she accepts it for what it is. And I must admit that she does make good suggestions about other aspects of my humble abode. But in the end it's my place and my rules. >:D ;D
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Here is my current workplace.
Waiting for my Scope (Rigol DS1054z).
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Here is my current workplace.
Waiting for my Scope (Rigol DS1054z).
It seems that nearly everyone else starts out their labs with something that mine lacks... basic organizational things. lol most of my rather large part stash is housed in flat rate boxes!! ....At least I still know where everything is... for now.
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Here is my current workplace.
Waiting for my Scope (Rigol DS1054z).
It seems that nearly everyone else starts out their labs with something that mine lacks... basic organizational things. lol most of my rather large part stash is housed in flat rate boxes!! ....At least I still know where everything is... for now.
My workspaces have always grown organically. Occasionally, maybe once every two or three years, I'll decide to completely re-do it, strip it down completely, but invariably it's to no net benefit... and a day or two of lost productivity.
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A complete strip down and redo of my bench is going to happen over Easter. Too many additions since it was last reorganized that it is now going to take a completely fresh approach.
Hopefully the 4 days will be long enough to remove everything, clean, put everything back and wire the racks / bench. It's going to take a fair bit of planning before hand to see what layout of benches / tool chests / racks will work best.
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A complete strip down and redo of my bench is going to happen over Easter. Too many additions since it was last reorganized that it is now going to take a completely fresh approach.
Hopefully the 4 days will be long enough to remove everything, clean, put everything back and wire the racks / bench. It's going to take a fair bit of planning before hand to see what layout of benches / tool chests / racks will work best.
If you're anything like me, make room for 2 of everything you have. That way the gear piles don't start so soon.
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The biggest problem I have is a pile of card board boxes growing into my office which needs sorting & binning every now and then. I can have 3 different projects in 3 different work areas on my (long) desk but if a fourth project comes, one project has to go back into a container and be shelved.
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Here is my current workplace.
Waiting for my Scope (Rigol DS1054z).
It seems that nearly everyone else starts out their labs with something that mine lacks... basic organizational things. lol most of my rather large part stash is housed in flat rate boxes!! ....At least I still know where everything is... for now.
What you don't see in the picture is the complete disorganization of components, cables and everything else store all over the room.
Only decided to show only the Work-Bench :P
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Here is my current workplace.
Waiting for my Scope (Rigol DS1054z).
It seems that nearly everyone else starts out their labs with something that mine lacks... basic organizational things. lol most of my rather large part stash is housed in flat rate boxes!! ....At least I still know where everything is... for now.
I didint ;) My lab corner at best looks clean, how ever its rarely its best shape so it looks messy, books, wires, etc. components everywhere...
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The first picture is from 2013, second picture is 2+ years worth of time , energy and money :phew:. Slowly upgrading into a better place. I welcome suggestions, ideas as well as criticism. :-+
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The first picture is from 2013, second picture is 2+ years worth of time , energy and money :phew:. Slowly upgrading into a better place. I welcome suggestions, ideas as well as criticism. :-+
Put some shelves on the wall and use that as storage so you have more room on the bench to work on things.
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Here is a current photo of my electronics workbench.
This is only 1/8 of my shed, the rest of for other hobbies.
But did you win the 3D printer???? (competition web page on your screen)
The #D printer comp is complete and congrats to the winners, Nup I was not one of them. But if you grab the latest Jaycar catalog you can see all the winners.
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Finished my little improvised 'desktop rack'. Like many projects this took longer than expected.
Writeup updated: http://everist.org/NobLog/20160228_bench_rack.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20160228_bench_rack.htm)
Mostly it just holds power supplies. With an empty hole to take one more if needed. At the moment it just has a counter and CD player.
What the blank 1U front panel unit will hold, I'm still thinking about. A bunch of minor but useful stuff I'd like to have always right at the desk. Small coax patch panel, some low power fixed supplies (+3.3, +5, +12, +/-15, 24VAC, etc. An isolated mains ZC detect circuit. Heavy duty connector posts for the beefy supplies (and their sense lines) that are on the rear of the units.
Hmm... what else?
Having one easily accessible switch that turns off all the equipment in the rack is so great, why didn't I do this before?
Now I want to add front master switches to the shelves above the desk.
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The laptop can easily be removed leaving a decent, but not huge, work area.
(http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r110/Axeman627/WP_20160312_10_07_35_Pro.jpg) (http://s142.photobucket.com/user/Axeman627/media/WP_20160312_10_07_35_Pro.jpg.html)
That's such a nice deck, I would be paranoid about setting anything sharp down on it! And ESD mat might be a good thing to have, just as protection on that nice wood!
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The laptop can easily be removed leaving a decent, but not huge, work area.
That's such a nice deck, I would be paranoid about setting anything sharp down on it! And ESD mat might be a good thing to have, just as protection on that nice wood!
Or drop a soldering iron on it! I've been doing solder work on another table which means moving the equipment I need and it's becoming a PITA. The suggestion for an ESD mat is an excellent idea. It's on my next purchase list. :-+
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What the blank 1U front panel unit will hold, I'm still thinking about. A bunch of minor but useful stuff I'd like to have always right at the desk. Small coax patch panel, some low power fixed supplies (+3.3, +5, +12, +/-15, 24VAC, etc. An isolated mains ZC detect circuit. Heavy duty connector posts for the beefy supplies (and their sense lines) that are on the rear of the units.
Hmm... what else?
Having one easily accessible switch that turns off all the equipment in the rack is so great, why didn't I do this before?
Now I want to add front master switches to the shelves above the desk.
Lots of good uses for that blank panel. Sounds like you need more than 1U now. I think I'd start with the master switch for the rack and binding posts for the rear terminals of the devices in the rack.
Master (lighted) switches for the overhead shelf could probably be put into their own panel mounted to the underside of the shelf.
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In a cellar somewhere in Northern Germany…
… my home lab erected from ground up.
And no, I do not have 20 scopes like everybody else.
Prefer to have many electronic components at hand because
these are not so quickly to get in the rural area I am in.
But we do have 3000 Mbit/s of DSL – with fibre coming soon. We are still hoping.
Anyway – Just enough to keep in touch with the world.
Any metal work is done in the heated garden shed.
As you can see, I like to recycle the casings of broken ATX power supplies
because these already provide some cutouts I need anyway.
Work currently in progress:
1.) PC software for the transistor tester
2.) Simple op-amp tester (to the left of my 34465A) plus PC software for it.
3.) Cover for the electricity distribution system behind the workbench
Yours – Messtechniker
PS.: Can you find my SR-56? Still going strong except for batteries.
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Nice idea . Sockets for DIN rail fitted in a surface raceway :-+
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Messtechniker nice pics
What is that big meter on the top shelve reading ? Temp ?
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What is that big meter on the top shelve reading ? Temp ?
That big meter used to be an ammeter - 60 mV, 300uA full scale - used in physics classes.
I changed the scale to indicate decibels when connected to suitable circuitry of course.
Yes, at the time I did the math for drawing the new meter scale myself. I doubt, I could do this easily today.....
Used to work for a company making equipment for physics demonstration experiments.
One day some 40 years ago it simply fell off the shelf, well sort of. :)
Yours - Messtechniker
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That basement looks really great!
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Here's a few shots of (part of) my current disaster area... just for kicks.
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@ATATek, are the walls painted "Tek Blue" ? HiHi
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A2AT - looks good! :-+
-Pat
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@ATATek, are the walls painted "Tek Blue" ? HiHi
haha wow... I never paid any mind to the color of the wall paint! It's pretty close to Tek Blue, just a shade or so lighter.
Looking around and noticing my lack of bench dmm's, I think I'll have to nab up "a couple" of them.... Those inevitably will not be Tektronix.
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I dunno - I see empty slots in in plug in racks - get yourself some DM 501s, 502s, 503s, etc... ;)
-Pat
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I dunno - I see empty slots in in plug in racks - get yourself some DM 501s, 502s, 503s, etc... ;)
-Pat
I could certainly do that for a fraction of the cost of a 34401A, but the limited number of display digits will definitely cause me to just buy a 6.5 digit unit regardless. A DM501 or DM502 has less resolution than my Fluke 87III, but of course that wouldn't stop me from dropping a lowball bid on a DM501/502 anyway.
I'd much rather stick an SG503/504 or a PG506 in those slots, though. ;)
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My father came to visit last summer and we built this.
Features
- 12 AC outlets along the back
- computer desk slides in and out
- fully adjustable shelves
- peg board across the entire back
- cabinet door is a whiteboard on one side, peg board on the other
- lighted shelves (remote control, dimmable) and lighted floor
- shelf frame isn't fastened to the bench top, neither is the bench top itself fastened to the base. So it comes apart for moving, yet it's still very sturdy.
So for a hobbyist workbench in an apartment, it works great and I really like it.
And yup, that is the third edition of "Art of Electronics" sitting on the shelf. :-+
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lighted floor
impressive
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Normally, one wouldn't think much of a lighted floor, but it's actually incredibly useful. Instead of having to grab a flashlight if you drop something, just flick a switch and the floor lights up like a christmas tree. It's a nice touch, imho.
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Definitely some outside the box thinking. Plus, what else are you going to do with the leftover LED strips after all the shelves have theirs?
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My father came to visit last summer and we built this.
Features
- 12 AC outlets along the back
- computer desk slides in and out
- fully adjustable shelves
- peg board across the entire back
- cabinet door is a whiteboard on one side, peg board on the other
- lighted shelves (remote control, dimmable) and lighted floor
- shelf frame isn't fastened to the bench top, neither is the bench top itself fastened to the base. So it comes apart for moving, yet it's still very sturdy.
So for a hobbyist workbench in an apartment, it works great and I really like it.
And yup, that is the third edition of "Art of Electronics" sitting on the shelf. :-+
I really like this setup a lot. I too am a hobbyist and I too live in an apartment. It can be difficult sometimes to manage the available space and make it work to your advantage. Well done.
I will have to take a few updated pictures of my setup. But I have a small maybe 6' x 6' "room" (no door) in my apartment where I have everything setup. Thankfully I didn't have to build something like you did, but I like your modular construction.
By the way, I've been thinking of picking up the "Art of Electronics", is the price tag really worth it for a hobbyist?
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As somebody who just dropped his last opto-coupler on the floor and then spent twenty minutes looking for it I can appreciate floor lighting. Unfortunately the shops will be closed until Tuesday so I will have to wait until then to get some LED strip.
10/10 for this idea.
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...lighted floor...
Nice. :-+ Seems you may have started a trend with it as well. :popcorn:
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Normally, one wouldn't think much of a lighted floor, but it's actually incredibly useful. Instead of having to grab a flashlight if you drop something, just flick a switch and the floor lights up like a christmas tree. It's a nice touch, imho.
I have a UDL (Under Desk Lamp) for that for decades.
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My father came to visit last summer and we built this.
Features
- 12 AC outlets along the back
- computer desk slides in and out
- fully adjustable shelves
- peg board across the entire back
- cabinet door is a whiteboard on one side, peg board on the other
- lighted shelves (remote control, dimmable) and lighted floor
- shelf frame isn't fastened to the bench top, neither is the bench top itself fastened to the base. So it comes apart for moving, yet it's still very sturdy.
So for a hobbyist workbench in an apartment, it works great and I really like it.
And yup, that is the third edition of "Art of Electronics" sitting on the shelf. :-+
Damn i better not let my wife see that or she starts nagging why i cant have as clean work desk for electronics... :-DD
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Its a work in progress. I cleaned it up after my last client. No way would you want to view it while I am working on something. I have had a lab for over 50 years
Today March 2016:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/the%20bench.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/the%20room.jpg
In !966 in my parents basement in Montreal at age 13:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/File%20Mar%2013%2C%203%2018%2048%20PM.jpeg
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Its a work in progress. I cleaned it up after my last client. No way would you want to view it while I am working on something. I have had a lab for over 50 years
Today March 2016:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/the%20bench.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/the%20room.jpg
In !966 in my parents basement in Montreal at age 13:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/File%20Mar%2013%2C%203%2018%2048%20PM.jpeg
That is a nice bench! :-+ You even have A/C for those hot Summer days. :clap:
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grouchobyte WOW! That was a nice work-bench/lab! Clean and tidy and lots of goodies! :-+
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Heres one when I am actually "working" on a fiberoptic project for my client... I was just about to setup some measurements with a PicoScope, circa 2014
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/bobglobus/selfie%20in%20the%20lab.JPG
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Heres one when I am actually "working" on a fiberoptic project for my client... I was just about to setup some measurements with a PicoScope, circa 2014
What model of PicoScope is it? We got a bunch of them at work, a couple of 2000 and 3000 series. The model I use most frequently is the automotive scope 4425 with floating ground, which is also used solely for teaching students in how to use a scope in automotive electronics.
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Heres one when I am actually "working" on a fiberoptic project for my client... I was just about to setup some measurements with a PicoScope, circa 2014
What model of PicoScope is it? We got a bunch of them at work, a couple of 2000 and 3000 series. The model I use most frequently is the automotive scope 4425 with floating ground, which is also used solely for teaching students in how to use a scope in automotive electronics.
I think its a model 4824 if memory serves me correctly. .....8 channel 20 mhz usb3 model. My client owned it and just loaned it to me to log multichannel data. Quite convenient, actually.
Thinking about getting one, but want more BW and 8 to 16 bit selection, and USB 3 simply because USB 2 is clunky and doesnt feel like a scope. Also running native on a MAC is a must. Running under windows in VMware sucked but I was getting paid, so I did not care.
FYI: I do everything on MACs. I hate Windows and most POS things related to it |O
@grouchobyte
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@grouchobyte Thanks for info! Think all PicoScopes has USB 3 now, software for MAC users and some of them, if my memory serves me right, 8 to 16 bits resolution. Of course it is up to the user to choose either a pc or a bench scope, but for many applications like serial decoding like CAN bus, which comes free with the scope, and other measurements it does its job well. In my lab, which I will take a snap on and put up here, I got bench instruments.
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@4cx10000
I only showed you a an image of my lab/office where I do my consulting and hide from my wife. There is another place where all my older Vintage gear is stored and past projects are archived. Some good stuff and more goodies lurk just around the corner. I do try to just give away stuff I rarely use, like to University labs, deserving students, etc. I dont do the ebay thing. For me, its "out of sight, out of mind" when it comes to boat anchors or boxes that can hurt me ( too heavy) :-/O
BTW: are you in Stockholm? Last time I was in Sweden it was 1987 and I was visiting my client, Erricsson, in Hudiksvall. I remember it was Surstromming season. Reminds me of some comfort jewish food growing up. A bit smelly, though.
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Its a work in progress. I cleaned it up after my last client. No way would you want to view it while I am working on something. I have had a lab for over 50 years
Awesome setup! Someday I hope to have a lab setup like that. Im in progress of setting up a lab as part of a grant. Ill upload some pics once I get things setup.
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@4cx10000
I only showed you a an image of my lab/office where I do my consulting and hide from my wife. There is another place where all my older Vintage gear is stored and past projects are archived. Some good stuff and more goodies lurk just around the corner. I do try to just give away stuff I rarely use, like to University labs, deserving students, etc. I dont do the ebay thing. For me, its "out of sight, out of mind" when it comes to boat anchors or boxes that can hurt me ( too heavy) :-/O
BTW: are you in Stockholm? Last time I was in Sweden it was 1987 and I was visiting my client, Erricsson, in Hudiksvall. I remember it was Surstromming season. Reminds me of some comfort jewish food growing up. A bit smelly, though.
We need pictures of that, too!! :D
-Pat
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@4cx10000
I only showed you a an image of my lab/office where I do my consulting and hide from my wife. There is another place where all my older Vintage gear is stored and past projects are archived. Some good stuff and more goodies lurk just around the corner. I do try to just give away stuff I rarely use, like to University labs, deserving students, etc. I dont do the ebay thing. For me, its "out of sight, out of mind" when it comes to boat anchors or boxes that can hurt me ( too heavy) :-/O
BTW: are you in Stockholm? Last time I was in Sweden it was 1987 and I was visiting my client, Erricsson, in Hudiksvall. I remember it was Surstromming season. Reminds me of some comfort jewish food growing up. A bit smelly, though.
We need pictures of that, too!! :D
-Pat
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/surstromming360.jpg (http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/surstromming360.jpg)
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http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/surstromming360.jpg
Yupp that's it! :-+ No, i am not from Stockholm, I live in northern Sweden, far from the capitol and I am happy for that 8)I think It is more common to eat surstromming where I live than in southern of Sweden, actually I was quiet surprised to read about the surstromming season. We can say that surstromming is a more or less, but more smelly, kind of Sushi :-DD My cousin, whose surname is the same as the company, worked for Ericsson's but now retired. Know what you mean by "give away", I am in same position ie, you suddenly come to an end where all things is just to much, even though you build something every single day the rest of your life, there will still be a lot of junk for the kids to take care of :palm:
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@4cx10000
I only showed you a an image of my lab/office where I do my consulting and hide from my wife. There is another place where all my older Vintage gear is stored and past projects are archived. Some good stuff and more goodies lurk just around the corner. I do try to just give away stuff I rarely use, like to University labs, deserving students, etc. I dont do the ebay thing. For me, its "out of sight, out of mind" when it comes to boat anchors or boxes that can hurt me ( too heavy) :-/O
BTW: are you in Stockholm? Last time I was in Sweden it was 1987 and I was visiting my client, Erricsson, in Hudiksvall. I remember it was Surstromming season. Reminds me of some comfort jewish food growing up. A bit smelly, though.
We need pictures of that, too!! :D
-Pat
http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/surstromming360.jpg (http://www.magnetmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/surstromming360.jpg)
I meant a picture of the bolded part!!! :o :palm: :-DD
-Pat
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(http://www.rockgarden.net/download/eevblog/IMG_0168b.JPG)
Here using the VNA to measure out an RF amplifier:
(http://www.rockgarden.net/download/eevblog/IMG_0174b.JPG)
(http://www.rockgarden.net/download/eevblog/IMG_0171b.JPG)
Next up is a Spectrum Analyzer with tracking generator. Top candidate is a used Agilent E4402B ESA-E. I think it would look very nice on the shelf above the VNA. :)
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Back when it was actually a bid tidy and neat. This is an addition to the building put in by the last tenant, it was a shitbox. I had to fix the roof so it would stop leaking, and it has a few holes in the floor I need to fix. It's tiny, but I made it work for me.
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Back when it was actually a bid tidy and neat. This is an addition to the building put in by the last tenant, it was a shitbox. I had to fix the roof so it would stop leaking, and it has a few holes in the floor I need to fix. It's tiny, but I made it work for me.
Hey Louis, thanks for sharing, it looks pretty tidy indeed! Everything in its place and a place for everything.
Maybe you have mentioned this before on your videos, but I missed it (btw I really enjoy the content you share in Youtube!). At which resolution are you running the large LCD monitor?
Cheers,
Tino
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Not mine, but I thought others might like to see this web find.
A couple of days ago I found a nice Soniq 32" LCD, model L-32V11C-AU. Tonight looking around for info on it (especially a service manual), I found this - an Australian forum for scrap metal scavengers. It's quite interesting. And here's someone's recycling workshop:
http://scrapforum.com.au/album/8335-my-piece-of-paradise (http://scrapforum.com.au/album/8335-my-piece-of-paradise)
Click through the pics. Cool space. Note the bush building style - tree trunks for main uprights, some 2x4s horizontally, then recycled corrugated iron cladding. I like it. F*ck building regulations.
Also, now I know what's inside the Soniq before I even open it. http://scrapforum.com.au/forum/tv-monitor-sound-video/lcd-tv-s-monitors/4581-scrapping-an-lcd-tv-soniq-l32v11c (http://scrapforum.com.au/forum/tv-monitor-sound-video/lcd-tv-s-monitors/4581-scrapping-an-lcd-tv-soniq-l32v11c)
Very little apparently. Will it be bad caps? We'll see.
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All his profits went into that energy drink.
I believe I have a Soniq in the workshop (the pos that they are). Mine has a steel frame and a more expensive looking power supply so perhaps older. I also have a 32" thin bezel Dick Smith, a 46" Sony Bravia and a 22" Samsung, all intercepted before they got into the nasty scrappers hands.
But get this someone threw out a 72" the other day, those 1 year warranties ;)
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Well, this is not all I have, there is lots of junk and another workbench in the basement. Anyhow, one could say that it clearly shows that I am up to something. Could have cleaned it up a bit before I took the picture, but I wanted to show you all that I am an human being... ::) As you also can see, in order to make the pictures more exciting, all instruments are powered. :-+
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If these two work benches ever had sex and produced a love child, I think it would be a perfect thing!
(http://www.rockgarden.net/download/eevblog/IMG_0168b.JPG)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=213229;image)
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This is me.
On the PSU you see rev 0.3 of my current project (an electronic load), on the far right are the remains of rev 0.2; rev 0.1 is in the bin (it went up in flames) :-+ Next to this bench is another table with a computer running LTSpice, Eagle and the Arduino IDE.
Since I spent the best part of the weekend cleaning up the mess that accumulated over the past months I decided to use the free space to read up on a few things. Current subject: BJTs :palm:
Next acquisition will most likely be a bench DMM.
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I had set up a post of my own - should have put it in this topic instead. Doh! |O
This is my lab...https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/beginners-new-lab-existing-test-gear-any-good-for-starters/msg908806/#msg908806 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/beginners-new-lab-existing-test-gear-any-good-for-starters/msg908806/#msg908806)
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I'm just starting out and putting together some gear to work on Arduino projects. I found most of it on eBay (the Macbook air is from craigslist). I was fortunate to find a guy who was retiring and selling off lots of equipment from his Telco lab, so I managed to pick up some decent gear for decent prices.
The bench is built into a small corner of the garage (about 8ft x 2ft).
Next item to get is an oscilloscope. Looking at the DS1054z.
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Living in a apartment, space is essential, my wife granted me 3m² (32ft²) so I took it :)
Good to have 3,1m (10 feet) high rooms.
(http://i.imgur.com/l9dYL3s.jpg)
btw. there is another row above the upper row.... and a roller blind for the front :-DD
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Living in a apartment, space is essential, my wife granted me 3m² (32ft²) so I took it :)
Good to have 3,1m (10 feet) high rooms.
Bloody hell... That is crammed...
At least my wife granted me 14m²... But i am not in an apartment, so that makes it a bit easier.
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I hope that wall is made of sturdy bricks. If that ever collapses, they'll need a week to find you under it all!
McBryce.
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Many wall anchor´s and a wall thickness of
80cm 36cm on this wall helps alot |O Building is 1910
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Come to Cologne, where a wall can vary from "needing a Hilti industrial hammer" to "poke with a screw-driver" to make a hole (all in the same wall!).
McBryce.
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Living in a apartment, space is essential, my wife granted me 3m² (32ft²) so I took it :)
Good to have 3,1m (10 feet) high rooms.
(http://i.imgur.com/l9dYL3s.jpg)
btw. there is another row above the upper row.... and a roller blind for the front :-DD
lol. Where are you going to put the next one?
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It seems to me that less granted sq meters from your wife the more tidy workbench, am I rigjt?
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Come to Cologne, where a wall can vary from "needing a Hilti industrial hammer" to "poke with a screw-driver" to make a hole (all in the same wall!).
yes my wall between rooms are straw filled .. better not to hang something on it ...
lol. Where are you going to put the next one?
There is still much space left, in the left 19" department the 2 old psu´s are there only temporary and in the right 19" department the stuff above the DMM goes in the storage.
So much space left for good old 19" stuff.
And for one or 2 Keithley size meters is also spare space.
It seems to me that less granted sq meters from your wife the more tidy workbench, am I rigjt?
Workbench tidy is like the tide it comes and goes.
But you definitive think more how to store, organize and optimize your space.
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@george graves
If these two work benches ever had sex and produced a love child, I think it would be a perfect thing!
I agree! :-DD
Workbench tidy is like the tide it comes and goes.
But you definitive think more how to store, organize and optimize your space.
I agree on that too. My workbench was a total disaster when I took the photo. I have had to many projects running lately, but usually my workbench - and that is really true 8) - use to look a lot better. Less work area demands a more strictly posture to what is on the bench, there should not, as in my case, be a lot of crap and things that does not belong there... :-[ Maybe I got to much workspace? :-DD
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Back when it was actually a bid tidy and neat. This is an addition to the building put in by the last tenant, it was a shitbox. I had to fix the roof so it would stop leaking, and it has a few holes in the floor I need to fix. It's tiny, but I made it work for me.
Hey Louis, thanks for sharing, it looks pretty tidy indeed! Everything in its place and a place for everything.
Maybe you have mentioned this before on your videos, but I missed it (btw I really enjoy the content you share in Youtube!). At which resolution are you running the large LCD monitor?
Cheers,
Tino
4k. Anything less and I'd go blind on the schematics.
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@ Shempe : what is the dmm(19inch) that is besides the Keithley?
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No DMM
It is this little one: Knick JS 3010
http://ifworlddesignguide.com/entry/17210-stromspannungsgeber-dc-stromspannungs-calibrator-js-3010 (http://ifworlddesignguide.com/entry/17210-stromspannungsgeber-dc-stromspannungs-calibrator-js-3010)
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OK,
I've talked a few times about getting photos up here, here is the workshop as it stood 2 weeks ago. Just after these photos were taken, everything was stripped back to bare concrete and brick wall.
I will upload the photos of the new workspaces when it is more complete than it is now, but there are new cupboards, benches and racks. It is coming along nicely, but still has a long way to go.
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(http://www.rockgarden.net/download/eevblog/IMG_0168b.JPG)
@bson, From front to back what is the depth of you workbench? It looks like maybe 40 inches or so? Also, it looks like you've got a Rigol DP832 on the left. Is the back of the Rigol flush with the back of the bench or does it overhang some?
I'm asking because I want to add a new bench to my limited workspace but am having a hard time deciding on what size to get. I have a DP832 and another power supply that is around the same depth and I would like the bench to be deep enough to have enough space out in front of the power supplies (even though they will probably be off to the side, really just trying to get an idea). I don't think I will have the room for something quite as deep as what you have, but was thinking I could probably fit a 36 inch deep bench, and if yours is around 40 inches then I think a 36 inch would work fine for me.
I appreciate any answers you can give. Thanks.
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No DMM
It is this little one: Knick JS 3010
http://ifworlddesignguide.com/entry/17210-stromspannungsgeber-dc-stromspannungs-calibrator-js-3010 (http://ifworlddesignguide.com/entry/17210-stromspannungsgeber-dc-stromspannungs-calibrator-js-3010)
thanks, to bad there are no specs for it.
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OK, There has been a few weeks since the photos in my last post were taken (Only uploaded a few days ago though)
This is the main bench, nothing is wired up yet, but I think the layout of everything is going to be quite good while allowing for rearrangement when new gear inevitably gets acquired.
There is a small 19" rack on this bench with the full height 19" rack beside it. There is still a bit of gear to wire up (I have a HP 6050A load mainframe that sits on top of the bench top 19" rack).
The equipment on the bench from bottom left is
On the bench - Rigol 1054Z, Manson HCS-3402 PSU, JBC DDE-2 2 tool control unit (The other hand piece will be on my other bench behind me)
First shelf - TTI TGA-1230 10MHz Arb waveform generator, Keithley 2015, HP 3478A, Rigol DP832, Zimmer LMG95 Power Meter
Small 19" rack - Acme PS2L-1000 Load bank, HP 6012A DC Power supply 0-60V / 0-50A (Up to 1KW), Agilent 34970A DAQ.
Big 19" rack - Chenbro computer case which will be built up for the workshop computer, EDC E100RC DC voltage reference, HP 3457A, HP Z3801 GPSDO, Racal Dana 9478 Frequency distribution unit. I have a Genrad resistor decade box and a ESI SR1 1? resistor on the shelf.
Other gear not shown which is sitting in the cupboards etc... (These are not used very often, so taken out when needed) Fluke 105B series 2 scope meter, Agilent U1733C 100KHz LCR meter, YZX Studio miliohmeter, various current clamps, probes, DMM Check plus, another HP3478A, HP3456A.
Other benches not clean / sorted enough to photo yet have 2 x TTI PL330 30v 3a linear power supplies, Manson DPD-3030 2 channel 30v 3a linear supply, Manson 15V 45A switch mode power supply, AWA Audio oscillator and a AWA THD Meter
Then the big toys that rarely get used and I have NO idea where to put them, so they are sitting on a trolley that can be moved. 3H Industries Swinger 2-100 100A / 1KW DC load, 3H Industries Swinger 2-300 300A 2.5KW DC load, Chroma 1200VA AC source.
I think that's all the gear that is lurking around, all that is on my list at the moment to get is a frequency counter like a HP 53131A / 53132A
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Very Nice.
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I'm really surprised at how people like to store equipment directly on the bench top. I keep almost everything up on shelves because I want as much space as possible for projects.
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I'm really surprised at how people like to store equipment directly on the bench top. I keep almost everything up on shelves because I want as much space as possible for projects.
That's why I particularly like TE that use VESA monitor mounts, so with a gas spring articulated arm they can go anywhere you choose and take up no bench space.
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I work on various sized projects, from small items through to vehicle fridges, solar panels and generators. The bench behind me (Not pictured) has nothing on it for the very purpose on working on these larger items. There is a soldering iron, hot air station and tool chest beside the bench. I wanted to have more space on this bench than I had in my previous setup which is why everything on the bench is set back further than the shelf. The scope is on the bench as that is the best spot in my opinion, the meters, AWG, power meter and rigol power supply are all at eye level, but far enough forward that I can reach it easily. While it is my bench at work, everything listed and in the photos is my personal gear.
There is a 3rd bench that has been setup for the other guys to use (I'm the only tech here, but the others can do basic things) which should keep them away from my bench. That 3rd bench has a dedicated battery test area set up for doing cycle charge / discharges of batteries. The biggest set we have had to do testing on was 48v 1600Ah at the C100 rate which was fun to put through the tests.
Hopefully I will have some completed photos of the workshop within a few weeks so you can see the bigger picture.
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I should probably give some measurements to give some perspective. The bench is made from 2100 x 900 x 30 pine (The same that Dave used for his benches). I have some 12mm thick Jarrah strip that is being prepped and will be screwed onto the front edges as a protective / replaceable bumper. The work surface is 960mm high, my old benches were 900mm and I found they were a bit too short if I was standing at them. These are probably a little bit high for sitting (I use a drafters chair which can go quite low and surprisingly high. When I am at a comfortable sitting position my feet are probably 5-10mm off the ground which is not ideal, but a footrest makes it nice and comfy.
From the front edge, I have 680mm to the blue plastic drawers that are on the bench top. I have 1500mm from left edge to the bench top rack.
There is a bookshelf off to the left, that is my "library" of equipment manuals. I have PDF's of them all, but I prefer flicking through pages. Every sheet is in a protective sleeve and they are in lever arch binders made of clear plastic with a zipper to keep them together (Probably not the best description), or the smaller manuals are in display books that are then in plastic document boxes. I have tried to print copies of everything, data sheets, user manuals, service manuals etc...
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More upgrades, bench related.
Previously all my probes and test cables were stuffed away in a drawer in another room. I had some left over lumber from a previous project and decided to put it to good use. A probe rack on a wall directly opposite my bench for ready access.
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For test leads I use some this: http://image.made-in-china.com/43f34j00GMATrVERgFgJ/Plastic-PVC-Channel-Slotted-Track-Cable-Tray-Wiring-Duct.jpg (http://image.made-in-china.com/43f34j00GMATrVERgFgJ/Plastic-PVC-Channel-Slotted-Track-Cable-Tray-Wiring-Duct.jpg) wire ducting.
Cut one of the sides off, screw it to the wall (holes already in the plastic) and it's cheap as chips (the edible ones).
McBryce.
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this is mine :)
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@gamalot Love the U1253B OLED, despite the recharging PITA, it a great meter.++++
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@gamalot and all the others who manage to keep their desks tidy:
How do you do that?? As soon as I start something, it gets messy as hell, even though my desk is not so small (About 2m²)..
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When I realise that there's not enough space on my desk to put my current PCB down without starting a pile, I then stop all project work and have a clean-up day (and also take a photo for this thread :) ).
McBryce.
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Intense fight night with a 5kV power supply, took a cellphone photo (sorry), before sleep.
I hope I can clean up a bit this weekend, this is getting hard to work on this bench..... ::)
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@gamalot Love the U1253B OLED, despite the recharging PITA, it a great meter.++++
Did you mean "pain in the ass"? Yolo, my English sucks :'(
I guess it's the reason why they give up on using OLED display in their new U128x meters.
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@gamalot and all the others who manage to keep their desks tidy:
How do you do that?? As soon as I start something, it gets messy as hell, even though my desk is not so small (About 2m²)..
I have to do some clean up everyday cuz I share this room with my son, I don't wanna be a bad example :) :)
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Every Friday afternoon is clear up day. So, I put all the tools away in the right places, all the parts go back in the right boxes and each project gets returned to it's own storage box. I then clean the work benches and vacuum the floor. After the weekend it all starts again but every Monday I have a visitor and his mother so at least they get to see a clean workshop.
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@gamalot and all the others who manage to keep their desks tidy:
How do you do that?? As soon as I start something, it gets messy as hell, even though my desk is not so small (About 2m²)..
I have to do some clean up everyday cuz I share this room with my son, I don't wanna be a bad example :) :)
This could be my case someday, but for now, without any son I may need another strong scuse to do it.... :)
Every Friday afternoon is clear up day. So, I put all the tools away in the right places, all the parts go back in the right boxes and each project gets returned to it's own storage box. I then clean the work benches and vacuum the floor. After the weekend it all starts again but every Monday I have a visitor and his mother so at least they get to see a clean workshop.
Mine problem is that this is mine cave, so basically just I get inside, neither my wife come here... But I don't like to work like that, not a clean room, but not like that. I'm moving in this 'new' lab, so I don't get all the storages, box and shelves yet... Maybe this later....
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I have almost a fetish about keeping the bench neat and clean. There are only four items that have a permanent spot on my bench top: keyboard, monitor/PC, jar for pens,pencils etc., and a jar used as a small wastebasket. Everything else sits up on a shelf. Usually only one project is worked on at a time, and every project has a box that it and all its parts are stored in. Inactive project boxes are stored out of the way in a drawer or in a closet.
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Since I just cleaned my lab I figured now would be a good opportunity to post a photo here.
Usually you can hardly see the bench.
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Proud to be a member of this forum, and there's nothing better than showing my workbench/lab as first post.
It used to be a music studio back when I was not into electronics as I'm today (hence the drum kit and guitars laying around).
(http://i.imgur.com/c9UNXhB.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/1WWLriU.jpg?1)
The Holy Grail
(http://i.imgur.com/HwX96xo.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/wTiWW7e.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SkdujqZ.jpg?1)
That's all guys, hopefully I'll be an active member here at the EEV.
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Proud to be a member of this forum, and there's nothing better than showing my workbench/lab as first post.
It used to be a music studio back when I was not into electronics as I'm today (hence the drum kit and guitars laying around).
(http://i.imgur.com/c9UNXhB.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/1WWLriU.jpg?1)
The Holy Grail
(http://i.imgur.com/HwX96xo.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/wTiWW7e.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/SkdujqZ.jpg?1)
That's all guys, hopefully I'll be an active member here at the EEV.
Welcome to the forum. I see the lamps above the bench are very bright. What are they?
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Proud to be a member of this forum, and there's nothing better than showing my workbench/lab as first post.
It used to be a music studio back when I was not into electronics as I'm today (hence the drum kit and guitars laying around).
(http://i.imgur.com/SkdujqZ.jpg?1)
That's all guys, hopefully I'll be an active member here at the EEV.
Welcome to the forum. I see the lamps above the bench are very bright. What are they?
Thanks sotos. That's a lighting fixture made by a Brazilian company called Taschibra, two LED strips with 55 LED's and 10W on each strip, 6500K temperature color, I actually attached those to the workbench two days ago, using some angle brackets and scrap MDF.
(http://i.imgur.com/dQ9Nz3r.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/cVGPZyk.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/363B9RL.jpg?1)
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Nice bench..
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japasetelagoas that's a very pleasant room, and nice work area. Also welcome to the forum!
But the strips of MDF holding up those lights... I'd suggest hunting around for some real wood pieces to replace those eventually. MDF bends slowly under load, and really isn't very strong. Also with screws into the edges of a narrow piece it's prone to splitting.
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japasetelagoas that's a very pleasant room, and nice work area. Also welcome to the forum!
But the strips of MDF holding up those lights... I'd suggest hunting around for some real wood pieces to replace those eventually. MDF bends slowly under load, and really isn't very strong. Also with screws into the edges of a narrow piece it's prone to splitting.
Terra, thanks for the tip. Even though the fixture itself is quite light (less than 1kg) I'll keep an eye in case the MDF starts to warp.
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Nice bench japasetelagoas. What brand is that screwdriver set? Are they good quality? looks neat.
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Lots of nice benches/labs/man-caves in this thread! :clap: Mine is very much a work in progress. I wouldn't call it a man-cave really, it's more like a man-corner; a bit cramped. But at least it's all mine, all four square meters of it and it beats having to share a desk with the missus ;D
Just a couple of layers of paint on the shelves and I can start moving my stuff in there!
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Lots of nice benches/labs/man-caves in this thread! :clap: Mine is very much a work in progress. I wouldn't call it a man-cave really, it's more like a man-corner; a bit cramped. But at least it's all mine, all four square meters of it and it beats having to share a desk with the missus ;D
Just a couple of layers of paint on the shelves and I can start moving my stuff in there!
Very nice indeed. Is that the landing at the top of a stairs? I like the way you've extended the desktop over the railing to maximise the space - and given it a 'guard rail'. Very good use of a difficult shaped space. Just remember not to let anything roll off the end of the shelves in case it lands on somebody coming up the stairs!
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Quote from: japasetelagoas on Yesterday at 19:53:53 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg925822#msg925822)
That's a lighting fixture made by a Brazilian company called Taschibra, two LED strips with 55 LED's and 10W on each strip, 6500K temperature color, I actually attached those to the workbench two days ago, using some angle brackets and scrap MDF.
I like them very much.
Anyone can recommend something similar and decent quality from eBay?
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Is that the landing at the top of a stairs?
Yes! We've placed a new dormer on our roof about a year ago. That made that space much more useful than before :-+ The extension is removable, in case I ever need to move large objects again.
Just remember not to let anything roll off the end of the shelves in case it lands on somebody coming up the stairs!
Leave it up to my carpenters eye to make sure nothing is level. Anything rolling off the shelves will, by accident design, be rolling in the safe direction ;D
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Lots of nice benches/labs/man-caves in this thread! :clap:
It might still be a work in progress, but it's an excellent use of the available space IMHO. :-+ :clap:
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Nice bench japasetelagoas. What brand is that screwdriver set? Are they good quality? looks neat.
Hey bookaboo, that screwdriver set is made by a Brazilian company called Worker.
It was fairly cheap compared to the big brands down here, 100 BRL,roughly 30 USD.
(http://i.imgur.com/C7sIca8.png?1)
The only "downside" that I can mention is that the print faded quite easily on the tools that I use the most as you can see on the image below. The Torx one and the big flathead that I barely use have their labels basically intact.
(http://i.imgur.com/3kaQcpT.jpg?1)
By the way, in case you wanna check out their catalog this is the link:
http://www.ferragensnegrao.com.br/catalogo/ferramentas-manuais/#pag_111 (http://www.ferragensnegrao.com.br/catalogo/ferramentas-manuais/#pag_111)
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Japa, some of the more expensive stuff does the same. I have 4 Bondhus ball head torx drivers in my work toolbag. I use them regularly and the writing is worn off all of them. They work just as good without the writing as with and I paid as much for my 4 as you did for your whole set. Worn writing shows that they are being used and not looked at. :-+ :-+
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Japa, some of the more expensive stuff does the same. I have 4 Bondhus ball head torx drivers in my work toolbag. I use them regularly and the writing is worn off all of them. They work just as good without the writing as with and I paid as much for my 4 as you did for your whole set. Worn writing shows that they are being used and not looked at. :-+ :-+
It seems newer drivers in general are more prone to it IME. A change in ink formulations resulting from environmental issues? :-//
Makes one appreciate the brands that print info on the end of the driver's handle or in a groove in the handle when possible (areas that get less wear). ;)
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My excuse for a LAB :palm:: http://imgur.com/a/Uc6dk/all (http://imgur.com/a/Uc6dk/all)
Almost all drawers are full of parts/tools/whatever, also I have additional 3 overhead storage spaces for rest of my stuff.... :scared:
Let's play a game: Find a scope in all this mess, usually to find something in this mess takes 2-6 hours |O
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My excuse for a LAB :palm:: http://imgur.com/a/Uc6dk/all (http://imgur.com/a/Uc6dk/all)
Super funny... stereotypical nerd use for a kitchen has nothing to do with cooking.
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Let's play a game: Find a scope in all this mess, usually to find something in this mess takes 2-6 hours |O
Looks a lot like a Hantek DSO5000P series model:
(http://i.imgur.com/X9KKyCa.jpg)
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Let's play a game: Find a scope in all this mess, usually to find something in this mess takes 2-6 hours |O
Looks a lot like a Hantek DSO5000P series model:
DSO5000B series toy with crashing horizontal zoom on deep memory |O and a bit of how you are doing trigger :-DD, need to replace with Rigol DS1000Z or Agilent DSOX2004A, can't decide which one to buy, rigol is 5.6 times cheaper... :-//
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The lastest configuration of my workspace in the basement. The shelf unit is made from veneered particle board which I acquired as cheap remnants. The edges are finished with solid pine and painted. Three of the bays are standard rack width.
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The lastest configuration of my workspace in the basement. The shelf unit is made from veneered particle board which I acquired as cheap remnants. The edges are finished with solid pine and painted. Three of the bays are standard rack width.
The way you did the electrical wiring is fantastic. I really like that idea. :-+
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Hanging leads from a slotted rack is great. Did you make that or is there a source for it?
What are you guys doing to store heat shrink? I can't seem to come up with a good solution. Various options:
1) reel/roll. Problem is, doesn't work well for various diameters, don't roll nice when they crease and bend, or when it gets short (end of roll).
2) boxes. Basically a box for each with a hole to dispense from. Prob here is possibility of getting tangled inside.
3) chop them up into a tacklebox bin. Problem here is possible waste or issues when you need a longer length than pre cut, plus all the up front work.
4) hang strands. Heat shrink often comes in 4ft lengths. I'm thinking kinda like the slotted rack for leads but maybe use clothespins to hold each strand?
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Hanging leads from a slotted rack is great. Did you make that or is there a source for it?
What are you guys doing to store heat shrink? I can't seem to come up with a good solution. Various options:
1) reel/roll. Problem is, doesn't work well for various diameters, don't roll nice when they crease and bend, or when it gets short (end of roll).
2) boxes. Basically a box for each with a hole to dispense from. Prob here is possibility of getting tangled inside.
3) chop them up into a tacklebox bin. Problem here is possible waste or issues when you need a longer length than pre cut, plus all the up front work.
4) hang strands. Heat shrink often comes in 4ft lengths. I'm thinking kinda like the slotted rack for leads but maybe use clothespins to hold each strand?
How about paper/carton tube that is used to carry A3 size drawings?
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I'm using a bit of 3" pvc plumbing for my long stuff.
Same idea as the cardboard tube. Bit more rigid if you want to clamp it to something.
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Hanging leads from a slotted rack is great. Did you make that or is there a source for it?
Looks like the OP made that one, but for an off the rack solution, there are the Pomona 1508, 4408, and 2708. The 1508 is good for general banana leads and such, and the 2708 works nicely for BNCs and scope probes. Middle Atlantic also make some similar ones that have variable-width slots, and some have little trays for adapters built in as well.
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Hanging leads from a slotted rack is great. Did you make that or is there a source for it?
Looks like the OP made that one, but for an off the rack solution, there are the Pomona 1508, 4408, and 2708. The 1508 is good for general banana leads and such, and the 2708 works nicely for BNCs and scope probes. Middle Atlantic also make some similar ones that have variable-width slots, and some have little trays for adapters built in as well.
Probemaster sells a smallish one, but it's only $3.00 so a person could afford a few of them. And I believe they have free (USA) shipping on all orders.
http://probemaster.com/probe-test-lead-storage/ (http://probemaster.com/probe-test-lead-storage/)
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Let's play a game: Find a scope in all this mess, usually to find something in this mess takes 2-6 hours |O
Looks a lot like a Hantek DSO5000P series model:
(http://i.imgur.com/X9KKyCa.jpg)
Yes it's a Hantek, my DSO5202B is exactly like that.
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My excuse for a LAB :palm:: http://imgur.com/a/Uc6dk/all (http://imgur.com/a/Uc6dk/all)
Almost all drawers are full of parts/tools/whatever, also I have additional 3 overhead storage spaces for rest of my stuff.... :scared:
Let's play a game: Find a scope in all this mess, usually to find something in this mess takes 2-6 hours |O
Oh, that just so made my day! Definitely worth taking the brief excursion off eevblog.
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Hanging leads from a slotted rack is great. Did you make that or is there a source for it?
Looks like the OP made that one, but for an off the rack solution, there are the Pomona 1508, 4408, and 2708. The 1508 is good for general banana leads and such, and the 2708 works nicely for BNCs and scope probes. Middle Atlantic also make some similar ones that have variable-width slots, and some have little trays for adapters built in as well.
Probemaster sells a smallish one, but it's only $3.00 so a person could afford a few of them. And I believe they have free (USA) shipping on all orders.
http://probemaster.com/probe-test-lead-storage/ (http://probemaster.com/probe-test-lead-storage/)
Those Probemaster test lead holders are nice. They sent me one for free with my last probe order. It's made from a flexible but still rigid enough vinyl/plastic.
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Hanging leads from a slotted rack is great. Did you make that or is there a source for it?
Looks like the OP made that one, but for an off the rack solution, there are the Pomona 1508, 4408, and 2708. The 1508 is good for general banana leads and such, and the 2708 works nicely for BNCs and scope probes. Middle Atlantic also make some similar ones that have variable-width slots, and some have little trays for adapters built in as well.
Probemaster sells a smallish one, but it's only $3.00 so a person could afford a few of them. And I believe they have free (USA) shipping on all orders.
http://probemaster.com/probe-test-lead-storage/ (http://probemaster.com/probe-test-lead-storage/)
Those Probemaster test lead holders are nice. They sent me one for free with my last probe order. It's made from a flexible but still rigid enough vinyl/plastic.
I would prefer this to metal, much less likely to fray or nick the cable insulation.
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Hanging leads from a slotted rack is great. Did you make that or is there a source for it?
Looks like the OP made that one, but for an off the rack solution, there are the Pomona 1508, 4408, and 2708. The 1508 is good for general banana leads and such, and the 2708 works nicely for BNCs and scope probes. Middle Atlantic also make some similar ones that have variable-width slots, and some have little trays for adapters built in as well.
Probemaster sells a smallish one, but it's only $3.00 so a person could afford a few of them. And I believe they have free (USA) shipping on all orders.
http://probemaster.com/probe-test-lead-storage/ (http://probemaster.com/probe-test-lead-storage/)
Those Probemaster test lead holders are nice. They sent me one for free with my last probe order. It's made from a flexible but still rigid enough vinyl/plastic.
I would prefer this to metal, much less likely to fray or nick the cable insulation.
Or you can DIY it as I did on my Instructables.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn-Your-Optic-Disc-Tray-Into-a-Cable-Hanger/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/Turn-Your-Optic-Disc-Tray-Into-a-Cable-Hanger/)
;D
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Hanging leads from a slotted rack is great. Did you make that or is there a source for it?
Looks like the OP made that one ...
Yep, made from some 5/8" pine leftover from another project. Pretty easy to make if you have access to a table saw. The fingers are glued on and held with a nail. I used spacers to keep the fingers neatly aligned until they dried.
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Finally moved
all most of my stuff to the new mancave/corner. Installed some LED strips under the shelves. Hooked up the ESD connectors. And finally gave the fume extractor a try (it works!). Still plenty of things to do, but getting there, slowly :-+
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That looks really nice, dvdouden! :-+
I like the white and clear making.
What about the cabinet under the table? Is there still place for your legs or do you pull it out when work is to do?
Cheers
hammy
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Thanks! :-+
[...] What about the cabinet under the table? Is there still place for your legs or do you pull it out when work is to do? [...]
No room left at all, but neither is there under the soldering part of the bench. I'm not sure if it will become a problem or not, haven't spent much time at the desk yet. If my back starts to complain then I'll have to find a different spot for the cabinet, but so far it's proven useful: connectors in the top drawer, ICs in the second, passives in the third, unfinished projects in the rest :P
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Haven't posted mine in a while, so here's how it looks at the moment with most of the stuff turned on to emit the appropriate colored lights for the photo. :)
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Haven't posted mine in a while, so here's how it looks at the moment with most of the stuff turned on to emit the appropriate colored lights for the photo. :)
It's so neat and tidy!
I'm relieved to see you have safety glasses at hand, to protect your eyes from neatness overload.
Here's about as neat as mine ever gets:
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Haven't posted mine in a while, so here's how it looks at the moment with most of the stuff turned on to emit the appropriate colored lights for the photo. :)
Nice! :)
Tool stand is a good idea - custom made? :-+
It's so neat and tidy!
I'm relieved to see you have safety glasses at hand, to protect your eyes from neatness overload.
Don't you know he spent two days tidying it up before he took the photo? :-DD
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I'm relieved to see you have safety glasses at hand, to protect your eyes from neatness overload.
I can see very well up close without glasses or contacts, so if I'm soldering or desoldering I wear them at that time. 8)
Tool stand is a good idea - custom made? :-+
No, I got it from Micro Mark -
http://www.micromark.com/ (http://www.micromark.com/)
Don't you know he spent two days tidying it up before he took the photo? :-DD
... three days.
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Haven't posted mine in a while, so here's how it looks at the moment with most of the stuff turned on to emit the appropriate colored lights for the photo. :)
A model lab! Nicely done.
Don't you know he spent two days tidying it up before he took the photo? :-DD
... three days.
How long did it last? ^-^
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Updated version of mine.
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... three days.
How long did it last? ^-^
Probably 30 minutes! |O :-DD
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What do you guys use to hold your probes, test cables and the sort of stuff?
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I use something like this.
Perfect for probes and really cheap.
(http://images.biltema.com/PAXToImageService.svc/altimage/xlarge/71-1251_xl_1.jpg)
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Looks nice! Where'd you get that and what's it called?
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Most hardware stores seem to have them. Also grocery stores with a hardware section.
They're usually called something like "Tool-holder", so it's true name is still a mystery.
Price ranges from about $1 to $2.50 a piece.
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What do you guys use to hold your probes, test cables and the sort of stuff?
A metre of this cut in half: http://3.imimg.com/data3/DV/CW/MY-2528287/pvc-cable-channels-500x500.jpg (http://3.imimg.com/data3/DV/CW/MY-2528287/pvc-cable-channels-500x500.jpg)
McBryce.
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What do you guys use to hold your probes, test cables and the sort of stuff?
See attachment ...
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The Pomona hangers xrunner posted the photo of. I have the orange one (finest pitch, not shown above) and the black (medium pitch). Quick and easy, and not terribly expensive.
-Pat
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I don't think I've posted in this thread so here I go, this the bench part of my "lab", currently in an intermediate state (not cleaned up but not too messy (I tend to prefer it neat and tidy)). I opted to not turn everything on for the sake of taking a photo, the DP832 is on though :-)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=227597;image)
Further to the right is my pick-and-place machine project and behind me there's shelves and drawers for storage.
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Machinists vice for holding PCB's. :scared:
Good idea though, at least it won't tip over. :-+
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
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I like the glass on the center of the table.
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I like the trackball integrated into the keyboard. How is it working out for you? I've been pondering about getting a trackball myself.
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Integrated trackball is nice to use. It has lots of inertia so I can move with precision or send the cursor across the screen easily. Its an old clicky keyboard with real micro-switches. I like the feel. Behind the monitor is the Raspberry Pi for a project. Up front is the PSU from a Rohde and Schwartz CMU200. I'll post some questions about it soon in the "repair" section, in case someone here is familiar with these. You know the drill: the "service" manual has no motherboard plug pin-outs or schematics. Pretty useless.
"The glass", yep. Photo was taken last week, late at night. Its quiet, I can think uninterrupted and it is excellent Cognac!
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I like the trackball integrated into the keyboard. How is it working out for you? I've been pondering about getting a trackball myself.
Focus on the Trackman not a Trackball and watch for incorrect descriptions. |O
Trackman's are right handed only and you work them with your right thumb, very precise and you need basically no room to accommodate/operate them. A mate uses a wireless one on his leg or armrest of a recliner and is now totally sold on them.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Original-Logitech-M570-Cordless-Trackman-Trackball-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse-/271606428963?hash=item3f3d013523:g:Yd4AAOSwRLZUFQvw (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Original-Logitech-M570-Cordless-Trackman-Trackball-Wireless-Gaming-Mouse-/271606428963?hash=item3f3d013523:g:Yd4AAOSwRLZUFQvw)
Just couldn't be without them on my PC's now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-TrackMan-TrackBall-Wheel-Mouse-TBB18-894360-1000-/252389626651?hash=item3ac398131b:g:K68AAOSwInxXNxLC (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Logitech-TrackMan-TrackBall-Wheel-Mouse-TBB18-894360-1000-/252389626651?hash=item3ac398131b:g:K68AAOSwInxXNxLC)
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Machinists vice for holding PCB's. :scared:
I use it to hold all kind of stuff, including PCBs, because that's pretty much what it's capable of. As a machinist vice/vise it totaly sucks and I'd quite frankly prefer if we didn't call it that :-)
But you're right, it's heavy enough as to not move around on the bench - which is nice. I would like to get something like a Panavise 301 and/or 350 for the more delicate stuff.
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Like tautech said I also use one Trackman Trackball from Logitech the T-18RA, and it's great, you can put it anywhere.
I've just finish to put my new bench together [will take pictures tomorrow], it's 3 meters long by 1 meter deep, with an upper shelf 47cm above [for the monitor] 3 meters long by 50cm deep.
Now to buy some ESD rubber mat, test cables holders, and start to putting some gear on top of it.
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
I forsee a major problem ahead for you - where are you going to put your next acquired piece of test gear? |O
New lab required? :-DD
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I think I see some space behind the monitor on the far right. Looks like it'd fit a stack of instruments. :-+
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=227610;image)
Nice! HP 1630x logic analyzer, a good assortment of Tek 7000 series gear including a rackmount one, a Tek TM500 frame, composite video monitor, LCD screens that aren't widescreen format, Fluke 8020A(?), old tower PC case with missing cover...
I like it.
That paperclips thing for tidying cables is a good idea. I'm going to steal that.
What are they clipped to? Is that some kind of aluminium extrusion, fixed to the shelf edge?
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
Wow! I've got to take a good look at all that, but in the meantime - cheers (from your pic)!
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
I forsee a major problem ahead for you - where are you going to put your next acquired piece of test gear? |O
New lab required? :-DD
The place is much bigger than the bench. Since the thread was focused on e-benches I just posted that. For example here is a pix of the high vacuum turbo and ion pumped deposition station. There is also the Canberra MCA cosmic ray telescope and the workshop (lathe, drill press, bandsaw, etc...)
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The place is much bigger than the bench. Since the thread was focused on e-benches I just posted that. For example here is a pix of the high vacuum turbo and ion pumped deposition station. There is also the Canberra MCA cosmic ray telescope and the workshop (lathe, drill press, bandsaw, etc...)
Wow , I'm really impressed (and seriously envious :P) :-+
Great setup! :clap:
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That paperclips thing for tidying cables is a good idea. I'm going to steal that.
Binder clips are excellent for cable management and come in a variety of sizes. In addition to using them as Rich did, if you want your cables to be able to extend and retract, but not drop onto the floor, run one (or a couple) through one or both handles (they come off easily), then clip within convenient reach. No snags, no sharp edges. Add some ferrite cores or other weight to the cables to make them auto-retract. :-+
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What do you use the ion deposition system for? (Apart from the obvious depositing ions- HiHi) seriously nice setup+++.
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What do you use the ion deposition system for? (Apart from the obvious depositing ions- HiHi) seriously nice setup+++.
The ion pump is to keep the system around 10^-7 torr in between uses. Main pump is a small Pfeiffer TPH062 turbo from ebay. System has been used several times to evacuate my EG&G 1412 OMAVision cooled ccd detector on my spectrometer (LED and diode laser work) as well as to work on the various Photometrics vacuum CCDs that I have from ebay to use on the telescope. Also for deposition of thin metallic coatings and such. The system is quite versatile and can be put in many configurations. Also has electrical feedthroughs, window and internal water cooling. The RGA has an electron multiplier and leak detection mode.
Present layout in the photo was someone who recently asked me if I could see and get an RGA spectrum of leakage from an integrated circuit package. It worked OK to identify the gases but I could not really quantify the leakage rate to the precision she wanted.
I am presently getting the bits and pieces needed for making a small homemade scanning electron microscope attached to the pumping station, but that is long term. :)
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=227610;image)
Nice! HP 1630x logic analyzer, a good assortment of Tek 7000 series gear including a rackmount one, a Tek TM500 frame, composite video monitor, LCD screens that aren't widescreen format, Fluke 8020A(?), old tower PC case with missing cover...
I like it.
That paperclips thing for tidying cables is a good idea. I'm going to steal that.
What are they clipped to? Is that some kind of aluminium extrusion, fixed to the shelf edge?
The shelves are a sort of flat U shape of heavy gauge sheet metal. Very sturdy and the clips are perfect to grip on that and move around when a different cabling layout is needed....
crude but effective. Also not shown on the right and back are two microscopes, a Tek576 curve tracer, Tek 2465DMS, Sony/Tek 305Dmm and Tek 545A in addition to the Canberra multichannel analyzer and a Spex double spectrometer. All in perfect working condition.
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=227610;image)
Nice! HP 1630x logic analyzer, a good assortment of Tek 7000 series gear including a rackmount one, a Tek TM500 frame, composite video monitor, LCD screens that aren't widescreen format, Fluke 8020A(?), old tower PC case with missing cover...
I like it.
That paperclips thing for tidying cables is a good idea. I'm going to steal that.
What are they clipped to? Is that some kind of aluminium extrusion, fixed to the shelf edge?
The shelves are a sort of flat U shape of heavy gauge sheet metal. Very sturdy and the clips are perfect to grip on that and move around when a different cabling layout is needed....
crude but effective. Also not shown on the right and back are two microscopes, a Tek576 curve tracer, Tek 2465DMS, Sony/Tek 305Dmm and Tek 545A in addition to the Canberra multichannel analyzer and a Spex double spectrometer. All in perfect working condition.
I have to find a dry rag to wipe the drool off my chin, neck and lap.
NICE.
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Why does everyone leave such a small bench surface for actually working? Most of the benches I've seen couldn't accommodate a decent size audio amplifier, let alone a large piece of equipment.
Perhaps everyone just works on tiny little smd boards!
That's my problem, I live in a modest closet but I'd like to repair my RT-909: ain't gonna happen. My bench is shared with the computer, I have maybe a square foot at best for electronics.
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
I see a Keithley 181 , Ithaco filter, and a 1201 preamp ;D
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here is my main bench in its natural state. To the right (not shown) are a binocular for smd work and a high magnification microscope.
I see a Keithley 181 , Ithaco filter, and a 1201 preamp ;D
You are looking at the stuff grouped for audio work in the middle: HP332A distortion analyzer, Ithaco 1201 low noise preamp and 4123 electronic filter, PAR 113 and EGG 115 preamps and to the left an old Phillips GM2317 audio signal generator. Of all the bunch of signal source I have in the audio range the Phiilips is the lowest distortion one. Not bad for a vacuum tube unit! Below is a Tek sampling scope.
Most of the keithleys are on the right hand side and include electrometer, current and voltage, thermocouple and scanners, etc... Most are operated via GPIB with the old computer under the bench when I need to automate a measurement.
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I need more space :(
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I need more space :(
You need more stickers. 8)
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I need more space :(
Yah I think you Do ....
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I need more space :(
Nice, but you need to NOT co-site a bench grinder and electronics. These are 'different room' things.
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I need more space :(
You and me both!!
Nice collection-o-test gear you have there!
-Pat
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I need more space :(
Nice, but you need to NOT co-site a bench grinder and electronics. These are 'different room' things.
I agree - the workshop is a dusty, messy place and should be separate from the lab. :--
Of course, it all depends on whether you have the available space to do it. :-//
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I need more space :(
What I do like in your work area are the old Teks. Here is my 545A, that I got in the mid 70s. Still works like a factory new with about 8 or 9 plug-ins (some had A.V. Roe company stickers on them. Perhaps they saw the Arrow) , including a calibration one with a reed mercury switch for risetime adjustment after changing the array of tubes in the vertical amplifier. It will most likely outlive me!
Yep, although just like you, the house second fridge is sitting next to my bench. Well, its not that bad actually. Its a just short stretch for a cold beer.....
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Hey Guys! New member here, thought I'd show y'all my workstation! It's a computer I built when I was in University, circa 2008. It's evolved over the years, so I'm not exactly sure what the specs are, but they aren't impressive. The CPU is a 3.2 GHz Quad-Core... just plain slow when you can get a 4.7 GHz 8-core monster for ~$230. :palm:
As for the pictures, sorry they are slightly blurry I shot them with my Cannikon and it has an f-stop of 1.2, and I didn't stop it down that much. There wasn't much light, and I tried not to use flash, as I just don't like the way it looks, but maybe I should have. Oh well.
Cheers all!
Soraen
P.S. After much try, I have compressed the crap out of the pics because of the files size limit and I may have to post twice or thrice :-// :palm:
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Here are the second set maybe if it will let me post them |O :-// :palm:
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P.S. After much try, I have compressed the crap out of the pics because of the files size limit and I may have to post twice or thrice :-// :palm:
Welcome to the forum.
Good try on pic compression but you can go even further.
2 main reasons; easier on Daves sever storage and faster to load for those on poor internet connections that want to view pics.
However when fine detail is needed ~500kb is normally large enough.
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@Sorean: if I where you I'd try to be less messy and think about a storage system for tools, components and equipment. It is a lot more fun to work on a project when you can grab things from a fixed/designated place.
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P.S. After much try, I have compressed the crap out of the pics because of the files size limit and I may have to post twice or thrice :-// :palm:
Welcome to the forum.
Good try on pic compression but you can go even further.
2 main reasons; easier on Daves sever storage and faster to load for those on poor internet connections that want to view pics.
However when fine detail is needed ~500kb is normally large enough.
Thanks! Ah, darn! I should have compressed it to maximum compression! I was thinking approx. 500kB was good enough (down from 5 MB), but I stand corrected! |O :palm: :-+
I wonder what it would have looked like then.... Ah, for next time!
@nctnico: It takes all sorts; I find that having to worry about keeping a 'clean' workspace does not add to the fun I get from electronics. The way my brain works, it's much more of an 'organized chaos'. And this is nothing compared to the labs of the researchers at my old university. Holy cow! I think they always just acquired more of what they needed rather than search for it. But thanks for the kindly suggestion!
(Pssst, and I think you meant "If I were you...")
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Ah, darn! I should have compressed it to maximum compression! I was thinking approx. 500kB was good enough (down from 5 MB), but I stand corrected! |O :palm: :-+
I wonder what it would have looked like then.... Ah, for next time!
Another way to get the file size down, is simply to scale the images to a smaller pixel XY size. You are posting images at the native size of your camera (4752x3168) and only using jpeg compression. But how large will the image be when people view it onscreen? 1000 to 1500 H pixels, typically. So why upload anything more than that?
Use irfanview or any other pic util to rescale to smaller size, and also choose an appropriate jpeg quality factor. At say 1000H, 80% jpeg quality, the file size will be less than 200K, more like 120K, depending on amount of detail. And it will look exactly the same on screen as what you uploaded.
Also, you can swap the pictures. Just edit your post and use the pic upload/delete options at the bottom.
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Welcome Soraen.
Well, TerraHertz beat me to posting that the fastest and cleanest way to cut down the size of your photos is to resize. Excessively compressing them introduces more and more artifacts, which kills the benefit of the higher resolution. Around 1000 pixels on the longest side is fine for general purpose "look at this" pics.
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Welcome to the forum Soraen.
I will admit htat I don't mind my work bench being kind of messy, but yours is a bit messier :D.
Spec wise your pc isn't bad, but I'm entertaining myself with your pictures loading. Initially most of the colors do not load, then they do. The second set is more fun. Red is initially grey, then red.
ALSO...
found the weeb
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Nice to see another fan of PC based instruments but that messy workbench would drive me nuts.
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Hello!!
I am a Spanish amateur radio operator EA7EE, but I have always wanted a RF Lab... From nine years old to nowadays I always have own some type of lab... :)
But My work in my company with Digital Programing, Test Benches, VHDL and FPGA is somewhat boring... :palm:
So... I built a a RF lab in my house ...
First I got all types of components, SMD, thru hole, etc.. RF, AF, etc.. And I sort and catalog all the components... Easy because, at work, I planify the working labs, HI HI..
The last year, I get a RIGOL MSO1074-S, a RIGOL DSA-815-TG, a RIGOL DP832, a BIRD meter, a Brymen multimeter, a IDM 73 (RS-AMIDATA) Multimeter, an Acceco Frequency Meter, and then This Year I get fool and I buy second hand:
- A refurbished and calibrated Willtek Stabilock 4032 with frequency extension.
- A working SA Tektronix 492BP to 20GHz
- A working Rhode & Schwarz CMU200 with I/Q, Audio Tester..
- A RF probe Agilent HP85024A to 3GHz
And then .. I lost all my money... |O
I want to redesign and copy some MW transverters... I want to study RF design... But I don't want to wait to retirement... I am only 45 years old... HI HI...
So finally cause of work and family... I don't have the time to play with my toys... But I plan to have more time this summer... and I got some microwave hardware... :clap:
So... The next year I plan to get an Agilent 34401A, 53131A, and some microwave tools...
What do you think?
Regards
Manuel
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Congrats on your lab. Really neat equipment over there! :clap:
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Hello!!
Welcome!
What do you think?
I think you're doing quite well in the equipment department. Enjoy your new lab!
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Hi guys,
I hear most people say the same thing. I need more space! Yep, me too. Still kinda in a mess but getting better.
https://youtu.be/GiIjB9jxQis
Cheers,
Billy
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For a moment I've thought you've got special scope model for left-handed people, tricky! :)
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That is a nice set up, I still have to hunt though boxes for parts I have bought and rat-holed away... All the shelves above my bench are filled with boat anchors and HP and Tek Iron.
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Sue, do you strap down those boat anchors? I haven't put any equipment on shelves since I'm also in "earthquake territory".
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Sue, do you strap down those boat anchors? I haven't put any equipment on shelves since I'm also in "earthquake territory".
I am putting my faith in the weight of said boat anchors and Gravity. :)
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Hello everybody! Long time lurker, first time poster.
Me trying my best on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8tkG4N2CLvseyNIADLvZ1Q (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8tkG4N2CLvseyNIADLvZ1Q)
Bench image attached!
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Sue, do you strap down those boat anchors? I haven't put any equipment on shelves since I'm also in "earthquake territory".
I am putting my faith in the weight of said boat anchors and Gravity. :)
Scary! ;)
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I need more space :(
Nice, but you need to NOT co-site a bench grinder and electronics. These are 'different room' things.
Don't worry, I don't actually use it inside that room. It just sits there for storage. I don't have a garage, so I have to keep all my tools in one room.
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Sue, do you strap down those boat anchors? I haven't put any equipment on shelves since I'm also in "earthquake territory".
I am putting my faith in the weight of said boat anchors and Gravity. :)
I've seen an earthquake with peak ground accelerations of > 2G. Boulders were literally jumping out of the ground.
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Sue, do you strap down those boat anchors? I haven't put any equipment on shelves since I'm also in "earthquake territory".
I am putting my faith in the weight of said boat anchors and Gravity. :)
Scary! ;)
So far it has been fine, with any luck more boat anchors are on the way in the not so distant future.
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So far it has been fine, with any luck more boat anchors are on the way in the not so distant future.
:popcorn:
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So far it has been fine, with any luck more boat anchors are on the way in the not so distant future.
:-+ :-+ :-+
One of these days, between the books and the boat anchors, I'm gonna wake up in the basement! I need to get my butt in gear and finish off a space down there to move some of this stuff. Fortunately for me, earthquakes are no common in these parts.
-Pat
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Have you considered the the idea that the boat anchors may be putting so much pressure on the earth that THEY are causing the earthquakes? :D
McBryce.
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Have you considered the the idea that the boat anchors may be putting so much pressure on the earth that THEY are causing the earthquakes? :D
McBryce.
Hmmmm... I think if that were the case, we'd have them here, too. ;)
-Pat
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The last earthquake here was earlier the year, made a buzz all over, but i did not even notice it. Now, on the other hand, there are areas here where earthquakes are slightly more common, but the major issue is soft dolomite and the sudden formation of a sinkhole that swallows your house, yard and the entire street. Tropical storms are a lot more worrying, or tornadoes, which do occur infrequently. Luckily where I live all I have to worry about is the odd hailstorm and heavy tropical storm. 20km inland the storm danger is not the rain but the lightning, bye bye everything electrical or electronic in the house with a stroke closer than 1km away.
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Have you considered the the idea that the boat anchors may be putting so much pressure on the earth that THEY are causing the earthquakes? :D
McBryce.
Well no not really I have a friend twenty five miles east of here who has considerably more than I do.
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Well no not really I have a friend twenty five miles east of here who has considerably more than I do.
More earthquakes or more boat anchors? :)
McBryce.
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Another work bench.
Although the work bench looks cluttered and it is, I usually don't have everything laid out on the bench top. I just did it for the picture. It has taken me several years to get to this point. And I have been fortunate to have gotten some contracts to build systems for people to justify the equipment.
Starting from the left on the bench:
HP printer, Fluke 87, Brother label printer, Micrometer, behind that is a rotating PCB holder, breadboard with Arduino Mega and a mini, also on the breadboard is a resistor and a capacitor substitution board, behind that is a peak curve tracer and esr meter, behind that is an old XPC PC, solder holder, the PCB's next to that are voltage and resistor references, in front of that with the heat sink is a constant current load, the black box is a curve tracer know as a "octopus" that you use with an oscope, behind that is a hot air rework station, next to that is a fume extractor, in front of that is another holder, the silver thing next to that is a usb micro camera, in front of that is another flat pcb holder I use when working with the microscope. I usually run it around 10x. If you can see the chip on the board that is about the field of view I have looking thru the eyepieces. And it is in focus so you can see the working height.
On the shelf is a rigol bench meter, below that is the solder station, then the rigol scope, siglent AWG, below that is the rigol power supply (behind the bino) and a secondary power supply, hanging next to that is a hot glue and hot air gun.
On the next shelf up is parts and books that I recommend.
JoeT
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Small update on my bench...
Posting progress pictures of building my work bench, slowly...
A few months ago:
(http://www.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta5.JPG)
A few weeks ago:
(http://www.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/sahkoistys.jpg)
(http://www.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/valaistus1.jpg)
(http://www.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/valaistus2.jpg)
All in one computer getting full overhaul and I am soon going to modify existing case for new mobo, power supply, additional devices, ports etc etc etc.
I should receive soon a new 3 channel power supply (2 variable outputs, 1 fixed), ESD bench mat.
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A lab with a kitchen. Excellent! :-+
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Yeah, all that thinking and soldering burns calories. Good to have fuel nearby. :-+
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A new challenge, can you eat and solder at the same time? or prepare and make food while working on an electronics project
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A new challenge, can you eat and solder at the same time? or prepare and make food while working on an electronics project
Actually we baked ginger bread men in a re-flow oven,good enough? :D
Anyway Farnell delived today a new power supply, a few components and an ESD bench mat.
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A new challenge, can you eat and solder at the same time? or prepare and make food while working on an electronics project
If the tea or coffee gets cold, just dip the soldering iron in for a bit....
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A few weeks ago:
(http://www.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/sahkoistys.jpg)
What's going on with the foil on that Metcal iron?
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DIY stand for tweezer solder and regular hand piece made from old barcode reader stand and bicycle lock cable holder. When I bought that metcal used it didn't come with stand so had to improvise. Foil is just to protect plastic from melting on iron when I put or take iron in or out.
Anyway Tenma 3 channel power supply arrived (0-31V/3.1A + 0-31V/3.1A + 5V/3.0A) and new ESD bench mat. Then a little bit photo shooting and uploading pics to server.
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And here is how it looks at this moment :blah:
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(6).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(8).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(9).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(10).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(11).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(13).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(14).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(15).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(19).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(21).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(23).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(25).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(26).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(27).JPG)
(http://hal.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta%20(28).JPG)
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So what happens if you pull the plug labeled "STOP!" ? :D
McBryce.
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So what happens if you pull the plug labeled "STOP!" ? :D
McBryce.
It is the emergency stop plug. The problem is emergency stop button doesn't cut power from both line and neutral cords so you might end up with line being energized still and neutral only got cut. Thus creating a problem where power might go trough earth. It is just to remind me to check line will come to emergency stop button when I connect it to power outlet. Also should make unaware people to wonder why there is stop sign.
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Ah, ok. I use the opposite method. If I'm working on HV stuff, especially DC, then the power is turned on through a non-latching footswitch. If I get a whack my foot comes off the pedal and cuts the power.
McBryce.
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Ah, ok. I use the opposite method. If I'm working on HV stuff, especially DC, then the power is turned on through a non-latching footswitch. If I get a whack my foot comes off the pedal and cuts the power.
McBryce.
How high voltage is your high voltage?
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Just tube / nixie stuff = 220V tops, but that's more than I'd want to be holding for more than a few milliseconds.
McBryce.
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Good idea, that footswitch. :-+
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Ah, ok. I use the opposite method. If I'm working on HV stuff, especially DC, then the power is turned on through a non-latching footswitch. If I get a whack my foot comes off the pedal and cuts the power.
McBryce.
So basically, a deadman switch. Excellent idea, and something to look into for the bench.
-Pat
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Yeah, I was trying to avoid the word "dead" there. :-DD
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@fireflower
4,000 x 3,000 pixels
5mb+
hxxp://www.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta5.JPG
^ ridiculous file size.
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Fireflower - lab bench is coming along nicely :-+
I think the chair needs some remedial work though! :palm: :-DD
PS Could you make your pictures a smaller size please? :)
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@fireflower
4,000 x 3,000 pixels
5mb+
hxxp://www.garde.fi/~fireflower/kuvia/projektit/kotostyspoyta/kotostyspoyta5.JPG
^ ridiculous file size.
I tend to forget people might not have 100/100 connection so I often don't resize pictures. They should be now more compact.
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Just buy the extra 2 NC contact blocks and put then in the enclosure, then you can break both line and neutral with it safely. 3 blocks because I have found that a lot of Telemechanique and KM switch blocks are very unhappy with having 2 contact blocks attached, and do not like having the centre empty either. So 3 blocks with one being unused are fine, and as well you can also wire the centre with a NO block and have a red LED lamp ( use a 3 station button housing, very common) to indicate button pressed, and a green LED to indicate power on.
If you want extra safety use a bigger housing ( deeper, but you lose the extra holding that the switches get from the base there) and use 2 switches in series on each phase. That way a welded contact will still be disconnected. Those contact blocks, while rated to carry 16A, are not really rated for long life making or breaking 16A though. They will fail, and there are very few 25A rated switch blocks available any more, you have to go with a low power contactor ( with the 9VA power consumption) to get that.
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Yeah, I was trying to avoid the word "dead" there. :-DD
The footswitches main purpose is also to avoid "dead" :D
The one I use is a heavy diecast footswitch which originally came from a dictaphone system from the 60's. They're actually quite easy to find on a certain junk selling website. Something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ojiden-Foot-Switch-Dictation-DFL-RV-S3-Osaka-Jidodenki-Works-Fine-/391465450429 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ojiden-Foot-Switch-Dictation-DFL-RV-S3-Osaka-Jidodenki-Works-Fine-/391465450429)
McBryce.
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Ah, yes, the good ol' dication machine...also dead.
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Ah, yes, the good ol' dication machine...also dead.
Don't know, they are still used by transcription services, as there is no machine that can transcribe spoken language as well and as accurate. Especially here, where we have 11 official languages, and you might have a legal case which is being heard in at least 3 languages by the assorted parties, or where you have poor audio quality in the recording that makes it hard for a machine to transcribe. This is something you really need a good result from. Not like the auto generated subtitles on the videos Dave makes, which often have little connection to the actual speech he is speaking at all.
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Many lawyers still use dictaphones. My pedal came from a law office that was upgrading their system. The footpedal wasn't from their current system, it was just in a box of junk that had been decommissioned during the last update sometime in the 80's.
McBryce.
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My field lab this weekend. This time I've been helping out some postgrad students with the command, control and telemetry on their ESA satellite project. Amazing amount of progress made in just two days. Nice that an old fart engineer like me with just a bachelors from 30 years ago but with the benefits of the university of life gets asked to help out on space related projects like these, and they aren't covered by security clauses and NDAs!
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/photobucket391/7e149a8de6fb9c1c8eecbded11a22be4_zpsqkoghr2y.jpg)
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That sounds like great fun, Howard. And what a smorgasbord of oscilloscopes.
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Howard, what a nice looking field lab that is and a very interesting project.
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Are we meant to infer anything by the stacking order, Howard? :popcorn:
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Are we meant to infer anything by the stacking order, Howard? :popcorn:
I'd say it's down to physics: Try balancing a DSA815 (or any equipment) on the thin top edge of an Agilent MSO-X and let me know how you get on :D
McBryce.
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That is very Cool Howard.
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I use an Ergatron arm with an ultrawide monitor in my lab. BTW: Turning the monitor 90 deg is very convenient for writing code.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/the%20bench.jpg
For me, electronics is not a hobby (it started out that way in the 1960's) so the lab needs to be more than just functional. The lab/office is separate from the house so my wife has less of a distracting effect on me. The dropbox link above captures about 25% of my office lab/space and is mostly the bench part of it. The microscope and SMT prototyping stuff is in another part of the room.....and yes it is usually that neat and tidy. I cannot work with parts the size of mosquitos in a chaotic environment
@grouchobyte
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Are we meant to infer anything by the stacking order, Howard? :popcorn:
Nope, that was logistical, i.e., what balanced on what without toppling over.
I did grimace when a student asked me where the auto setup button was. So I let him press it.... and it made a complete pigs ear of it, picking up some high frequency RF instead of the modem-speed stuff we were after, so I let him play around for a minute or two trying to make sense of it. After letting him suffer, I offered my help a short while after, and in under 5s I'd got a sensible trace. ;-)
A few stories like that came out, like I could look at a trace and could immediately say what was wrong with the software modems on a few occasions, down to within a line or two of code. I think they thought I was getting some kind of paranormal aid, but it's far more mundane than that, just a reasonable amount of experience, and, something you can't teach in front of a chalkboard, analytical skills picked up over decades of doing.
On the other side of the coin, these bloody youngsters are far faster than I am picking up something new.
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LOL! I tried the Auto button a couple of times, just to see what it did. After lots of clicking relays, it made a mess that I had to then waste time undoing. :palm:
I like my oscilloscopes like I like my cars: manual. :-+
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I use an Ergatron arm with an ultrawide monitor in my lab. BTW: Turning the monitor 90 deg is very convenient for writing code.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/the%20bench.jpg
For me, electronics is not a hobby (it started out that way in the 1960's) so the lab needs to be more than just functional. The lab/office is separate from the house so my wife has less of a distracting effect on me. The dropbox link above captures about 25% of my office lab/space and is mostly the bench part of it. The microscope and SMT prototyping stuff is in another part of the room.....and yes it is usually that neat and tidy. I cannot work with parts the size of mosquitos in a chaotic environment
@grouchobyte
Where did you get those clear plastic pieces you have over your ESD mats? I have an ESD mat on my desk but also have keyboard and mouse and worry about the oils from my hands over time reducing the effectiveness of the mat. I could get some of that special ESD cleaner and clean every week or so to keep the ESD mat free of contaminants. Is this an issue or just me being paranoid?
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I use an Ergatron arm with an ultrawide monitor in my lab. BTW: Turning the monitor 90 deg is very convenient for writing code.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6757916/the%20bench.jpg
For me, electronics is not a hobby (it started out that way in the 1960's) so the lab needs to be more than just functional. The lab/office is separate from the house so my wife has less of a distracting effect on me. The dropbox link above captures about 25% of my office lab/space and is mostly the bench part of it. The microscope and SMT prototyping stuff is in another part of the room.....and yes it is usually that neat and tidy. I cannot work with parts the size of mosquitos in a chaotic environment
@grouchobyte
Where did you get those clear plastic pieces you have over your ESD mats? I have an ESD mat on my desk but also have keyboard and mouse and worry about the oils from my hands over time reducing the effectiveness of the mat. I could get some of that special ESD cleaner and clean every week or so to keep the ESD mat free of contaminants. Is this an issue or just me being paranoid?
The clear plastic is standard kichen drawer liner. Not exactly anti-static. When i do sonething like handle laser diodes, etc, I remove the plastic. The mats do get dirty and do trap oils, etc so the plastic liners are easy to remove, which is less frequent since most things don't require strict anti-static protocol. These days, unlike many years ago, many components are much more robust although there are anti-static nazis out there :scared: who believe there is static everywhere. Know your environment and climate, humidity etc and use COMMON SENSE :-/O and then decide if you want to emulate what I do.
PS: the blue antistatic mats i use are really unnecessary since my bench surfaces are anti-static. After doing some contract work for Intel Labs in the 90's I fell in love with the benches there and bought myself two. They cost plenty but well worth it IMHO
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A new challenge, can you eat and solder at the same time? or prepare and make food while working on an electronics project
Actually we baked ginger bread men in a re-flow oven,good enough? :D
Anyway Farnell delived today a new power supply, a few components and an ESD bench mat.
How did it taste? Did you have a reflow project in the oven while baking ginger bread men at the same time?
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Is that flux residue on your PCB or treacle? :popcorn:
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I have some great instruments, Keysight, Tek, etc and a full machine shop with great machines including Emco precision lathes from Austria, Miller TIG, heat treating ovens, etc. and I'd show my lab but you really don't want to see it.
OK, you people with clean benches, how do you do it? I tried and failed miserably on many occasions over the last 50 years!
Rob
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I have some great instruments, Keysight, Tek, etc and a full machine shop with great machines including Emco precision lathes from Austria, Miller TIG, heat treating ovens, etc. and I'd show my lab but you really don't want to see it.
OK, you people with clean benches, how do you do it? I tried and failed miserably on many occasions over the last 50 years!
Rob
Simple. You need to learn or develop OCD......obsessive compulsive disorder
@grouchobyte
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I have some great instruments, Keysight, Tek, etc and a full machine shop with great machines including Emco precision lathes from Austria, Miller TIG, heat treating ovens, etc. and I'd show my lab but you really don't want to see it.
OK, you people with clean benches, how do you do it? I tried and failed miserably on many occasions over the last 50 years!
Rob
Simple. You need to learn or develop OCD......obsessive compulsive disorder
@grouchobyte
Or rather hide everything inside a compartment. Count the tools and components as part of the looks and design of your work area.
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I'd show my lab but you really don't want to see it.
Oh come on. Show it! The messy labs are much more interesting IMHO. :-+
I doubt you'd shock anyone here - look back at older posts in this thread. Plenty of very messy labs. Personally I'd much rather see Jim Williams type lab bench photos than clean, orderly benches. I can see those pictures on test equipment manufacturer websites.
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Not all messy labs are interesting, some are just stomach churning!
http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg)
NOT MY DESK!!!
McBryce.
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http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg)
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Okay. That's pretty bad.
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Dunno that I'd call that a lab - looks more like a hard-core gamer's desk. And are those bottle of pee? Regardless of what exactly it is - :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:
Yuk!! <imagine puking smiley here>
-Pat
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That's not a lab. More like an ash tray with a computer sitting in it. Yuk.
Not an electronics tool or instrument in site.
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http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg)
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Okay. That's pretty bad.
OK, that's worse than mine I'm feeling better!
'If a cluttered desk is a cluttered mind, what's an empty desk?'
Einstein
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Not all messy labs are interesting, some are just stomach churning!
http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg)
NOT MY DESK!!!
McBryce.
I am afraid to ask what the liquid is in those bottles.
The only thing missing from that picture is the meth pipe...
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Not all messy labs are interesting, some are just stomach churning!
http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Yfcp9I5.jpg)
NOT MY DESK!!!
McBryce.
I'm not a clean freak but after clicking on that link, I'm cleaning out my browser cache!
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I am afraid to ask what the liquid is in those bottles.
Hey - when ya gotta go, ya gotta go! ;)
-Pat
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...after clicking on that link, I'm cleaning out my browser cache!
LOL! That's a good one. I'll have to borrow it sometime.
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I don't know how you guys can work in such tidy spaces ( actually mine is getting crazy untidy at present)
After a bit of discussion about size or lack of it I thought I would update my "shack" photos.
The North facing view is the main desk which is covered with stuff, currently building a thermionic tube tracer the "uTracer 3+", out of view to the left are soldering irons and the main shed PC. Behind the desk are DMMs, Freq Gens, Counters, GPSDO, LCR meter, transistor zener, Cap testers, GPIB-USB IF.
It also has the main Ham rigs an Icom 756ProIII, IC 7300, IC 5100 and HPSDR SDR radios.
The West facing view is the main component storage and lesser used test gear, spec An, 3458, RF freq gen, Nixie stack is hidden behind green bin, also is a stack of 3455, 3456, 3457, out of view to the right is noise measuring gear, Yaesu FRG7 and FT 101 on top (with Oscilloscope unit)
More to come
edit added Ham gear
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The South side is the work bench, has an engineers vice at the Right end but is covered with stuff, out of view to the left is a combination folder roller cutter as well as a small lathe and a small drill mill, to the right below the satellite dish ( a 10GHz set up) is a 5' high 19" rack , mainly full of text books and manuals
The East side is mainly small hardware items e.g. nuts and bolts, and bigger tools e.g. hacksaws, drills, socket sets,heavy files etc in the filing cabinets. And what shed doesn't need a chainsaw to trip over on a regular basis!!!
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VK5RC,
I think you stole my bench!
The last photo is my small CNC lathe to drill PCB's and cut case fronts.
Rob
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Holy crap, Rob - I had one of those wooden monkeys when I was a kid (my aunt brought it back for a trip at some point). I have no idea if it's still floating around somewhere now 40 years later, but recognized the hooked hands and feet immediately when I saw it in the photo.
-Pat
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Both Robs,
It looks like you're already taking full advantage of the vertical dimension.
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Good to see that I am not the only messy guy,
Pat, that monkey is a reproduction, given to me by my sister (an architect) the original is considered an art /design classic (from the sixties I think) . My late father had one, which has been lost.
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The only monkeys in my lab are a set of "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil" and me. And, of course, it's also the Year of the Monkey.
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Good to see that I am not the only messy guy,
Pat, that monkey is a reproduction, given to me by my sister (an architect) the original is considered an art /design classic (from the sixties I think) . My late father had one, which has been lost.
LOL - yeah, my whole house typically looks like stuff has exploded everywhere.
If the original of the monkey is a classic, then the one I had is most likely long gone, then. And yeah, late sixties sounds like roughly the time frame she'd have gotten it in.
-Pat
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Man that Keysight meter has it's own personal shelf! :clap:
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Holy crap, Rob - I had one of those wooden monkeys when I was a kid (my aunt brought it back for a trip at some point). I have no idea if it's still floating around somewhere now 40 years later, but recognized the hooked hands and feet immediately when I saw it in the photo.
-Pat
What wooden monkey? I didn't know I had one! Only kidding, it's the other Rob... but then there may be one or in the basement (my wife fondly calls it the Robsonian)
Rob
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Man that Keysight meter has it's own personal shelf! :clap:
Some things are sacred!
Rob
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Both Robs,
It looks like you're already taking full advantage of the vertical dimension.Work Bench
You mean this vertical dimension?
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robaroni "now thats what I call a lab"
I couldn't recall the artist re the Wooden monkey; Kay Bojeson, 1951 , https://brdr-kruger.com/en/products/wooden-monkey
Now I must do some tidying up!
Rob
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Now I must do some tidying up!
Use the chain saw ... :popcorn:
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He has to rebuild the carb first...
-Pat
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"Blood, spurt, artery, court case" with apologies to Monty Python. HiHi
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"It's just a flesh wound."
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Ah've 'ad worse...
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I must admit - I gave the chainsaw a nod.
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I have to start 'the bas****d' first!
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I have to start 'the bas****d' first!
Of course Rob you'll know you can buy that stuff in OZ but others won't as they know it as Easy Start or similar but you have it as a famous Aussie brand called: Start you Bastard" :-DD
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robaroni "now thats what I call a lab"
I couldn't recall the artist re the Wooden monkey; Kay Bojeson, 1951 , https://brdr-kruger.com/en/products/wooden-monkey
Now I must do some tidying up!
Rob
I started, here are my metal lathes, I recently built the tool shelf. (You can't see the bench, which is on par with the electronics lab!). I'm going to clean up the labs (Honestly!) and am building a new Ham Shack which will need at least one square foot on the desk to operate my key. It will be a challenge!
Rob
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Wow, that is a SERIOUS metal workshop :-+
I haven't seen him on the blog for a while but Robrenz has some lovely metal working gear and has done some equally lovely work with it including a lovely set of kelvin leads, if you haven't seen it, it is worth a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwgO6Lg4RZM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwgO6Lg4RZM)
My gear, but more importantly the operator, is not in the same league as you guys. :-+
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That was a very interesting video. I love machine shop tools.
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Wow, that is a SERIOUS metal workshop :-+
I haven't seen him on the blog for a while but Robrenz has some lovely metal working gear and has done some equally lovely work with it including a lovely set of kelvin leads, if you haven't seen it, it is worth a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwgO6Lg4RZM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwgO6Lg4RZM)
My gear, but more importantly the operator, is not in the same league as you guys. :-+
Wow! Excellent! Great work, I love to see this kind of precision. One of my other hats is a clock and watch maker. Here's a balance staff for a 16 size pocket watch. And a wheel (gear) for a three story 100 year old tower clock.
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I'm a reformed man! After seeing some of the nice labs here I've decided to clean the Robsonian and then the electronics lab.
Pictures to follow!
Thanks guys you've inspired me! (Nancy doubts this will really happen but I'm not daunted!)
Rob
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I'm a reformed man! After seeing some of the nice labs here I've decided to clean the Robsonian and then the electronics lab.
Pictures to follow!
Thanks guys you've inspired me! (Nancy doubts this will really happen but I'm not daunted!)
Rob
Think of it as a treasure hunt, you never know what you may find lurking in there! :-+ :-DD
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I'm a reformed man! After seeing some of the nice labs here I've decided to clean the Robsonian and then the electronics lab.
Pictures to follow!
Thanks guys you've inspired me! (Nancy doubts this will really happen but I'm not daunted!)
Rob
Oh, sure - make me look bad, why don'tcha?!? :P
-Pat
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That is very nice.
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(http://www.rockgarden.net/download/eevblog/IMG_0168b.JPG)
@bson, From front to back what is the depth of you workbench? It looks like maybe 40 inches or so? Also, it looks like you've got a Rigol DP832 on the left. Is the back of the Rigol flush with the back of the bench or does it overhang some?
Apologies for the very late response! I totally missed your post. The bench is a heavy-duty 72x36" with a laminate top and an ESD mat. It's this one here: https://www.amazon.com/BenchPro-Roosevelt-Industrial-Laminate-Capacity/dp/B01E98JID8/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1467082729&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=72+workbrench (https://www.amazon.com/BenchPro-Roosevelt-Industrial-Laminate-Capacity/dp/B01E98JID8/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1467082729&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=72+workbrench)
I've grounded the steel frame. The top also has a foil underside, which is also grounded. I then added a 72" shelf, also steel, and also grounded. It has power outlet cutouts on the front, but I haven't populated those since I really no use for power cable hanging down onto the work area, instead I attached a couple of long 60-70" power strips along the back.
The DP832 and all other instruments protrude a little on the back, but all feet are on the top.
The deepest instrument is the HP 3577A VNA, and it sits on the S-param test set which sits on a ~1" wooden box under it. This guy protrudes well into the back, but not badly or dangerously so. I keep the bench a bit off the back wall for this reason and to make it realistically possible to get in and move a GPIB cable or something. It's also too heavy with so many instruments (especially the VNA) to slide much. So I try to keep the rear accessible to begin with.
The next item up is likely an Agilent 8753D VNA...
I'm asking because I want to add a new bench to my limited workspace but am having a hard time deciding on what size to get.
Yeah, I wish I had responded sooner! It's GREAT to have a deep bench. This thing is also rock solid; I could stand and jump on it and it couldn't care less. The top is along the lines of 1.5" thick.
Very heavy, but very easy to assemble and since it has bolt holes also very easy to ground.
I also attached a wrist strap connector on the bottom of the top.
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About halfway through cleaning the main bench, I think I'm going to need to borrow that chainsaw!
Rob
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I'm asking because I want to add a new bench to my limited workspace but am having a hard time deciding on what size to get.
Bson,
When I built my bench I welded 3/4" angle frames and then cut strips of birch plywood to lay in the angle iron tracks. It worked well but I wish I had made them deeper. I would say minimum of 17" (43 cm), mine run about 14" (35.5cm). The main portion of the bench is a little over 24" (61cm)
The trick with limited space is to build shelves that sit over the rear of the bench so you never compromise the depth of the bench with instruments. most of my instruments are on shelves above the main bench so I can work all the way to the back of the bench. If your bench sits against a wall you can suspend the shelves from the wall so there are no legs on the main bench. I made special brackets so my shelves can support forty pound plus power supplies.
Rob
ps:
I didn't have the luxury of a deep bench, my room is only about 6 feet wide by 12 feet long, so this is how I overcame the limited space issue.
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Both Robs,
It looks like you're already taking full advantage of the vertical dimension.Work Bench
You mean this vertical dimension?
Forgive me for being a bit of a neghead here but that looks like a serious fire hazard. Having that much cardboard in box format above a load of electronic equipment would mean that the room would turn into a firestorm within a few minutes if there was a small electrical fire. Each box is like tinder with a nugget of oxygen inside it.
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Both Robs,
It looks like you're already taking full advantage of the vertical dimension.Work Bench
You mean this vertical dimension?
Forgive me for being a bit of a neghead here but that looks like a serious fire hazard. Having that much cardboard in box format above a load of electronic equipment would mean that the room would turn into a firestorm within a few minutes if there was a small electrical fire. Each box is like tinder with a nugget of oxygen inside it.
I see your point but I think it looks worse than it is. The two large power supplies at the end of the shelf are only used for my CNC lathe when I'm in the room and neither is taxed to the point of any appreciable amount of heat. Also, there are no instruments left on those shelves when I leave the lab. The lower shelves have very low heat.
Paper catches fire at 451F and corrugated cardboard at 800F. You have to remember, cardboard is used in shipping and often sits in very hot trucks for long periods of time so it's not as flammable as you might think.
Rob
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Here's the bulk of it. Not pictured are my power supplies (homemade, but they do the job) or my component trays, etc... While my family thinks it's too much, it kind of pales in comparison to some of these gems!
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Here is my temporary office and workbench. Not much gear with me at the moment. Trying to keep the weight down.
I have the laptop, battery for the laptop, magnifying glasses headset, and circuit that I am trying to reverse engineer. Not shown I have a cheap multimeter, dial-calipers and portable solar panel.
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Here's the bulk of it. Not pictured are my power supplies (homemade, but they do the job) or my component trays, etc... While my family thinks it's too much, it kind of pales in comparison to some of these gems!
Looks good to me. The scope really stands out from the crowd there.
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I have the laptop, battery for the laptop, magnifying glasses headset, and circuit that I am trying to reverse engineer. Not shown I have a cheap multimeter, dial-calipers and portable solar panel.
Reverse engineering while camping! Quite the combo of activities.
Regarding weight, can you replace the laptop with a tablet or smartphone instead?
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Looks good to me. The scope really stands out from the crowd there.
ha ha, indeed! Siglent 1102cml... first DSO and have to be honest, I'm not sure I really like it. I have to select language on every powerup and software/support is all written in chinglish... which I'm not the most fluent in. Kinda thinking about returning it and getting a Rigol...
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Looks good to me. The scope really stands out from the crowd there.
ha ha, indeed! Siglent 1102cml... first DSO and have to be honest, I'm not sure I really like it. I have to select language on every powerup.....
Not exactly.
Yes while these entry level DSO's do boot to the default Chinese language selection menu any touch of a button or knob overrides the language selection dialogue and returns the scope to the last power-on state.
Edit
For clarity.
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just in case this has not been seen
not my lab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM)
Is Mr Carlson a member here?
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She's brand new captain.... take her out slow.
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just in case this has not been seen
not my lab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM)
Is Mr Carlson a member here?
:) I wonder if Mr Carlson is single??
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She's brand new captain.... take her out slow.
Nothing is even turned on and glowing ... :-//
(well yea the monitors are on)
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She's brand new captain.... take her out slow.
Nothing is even turned on and glowing ... :-//
(well yea the monitors are on)
OK OK OK. Hold on....
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Lights on. I go on vacation tomorrow, more like a staycation. I'll be making leads and messing around with all this the whole time. I have to start studying for this semester coming up as well.
Oscilloscope is amazing compared the the ones at the school. Have to learn how to use it fully before classes.
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just in case this has not been seen
not my lab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM)
Is Mr Carlson a member here?
I've seen a few of his vid's. Eccentric but fun to watch. I wouldn't want the electric bill for that lab!
See how neat it is? That's how mine is going to look when it's done. ;D
Rob
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I have the laptop, battery for the laptop, magnifying glasses headset, and circuit that I am trying to reverse engineer. Not shown I have a cheap multimeter, dial-calipers and portable solar panel.
Reverse engineering while camping! Quite the combo of activities.
Regarding weight, can you replace the laptop with a tablet or smartphone instead?
That would be nice. Do you know of a circuit capture program that can be used on a tablet? Kicad doesn't work on a tablet.
I also wanted the laptop so I can create some designs in 3D. As far as I know there isn't a good 3D program for the tablet. If I could get a development environment for Google cardboard going that was based solely in tablets and smart-phones I would be willing to give it a try.
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I have the laptop, battery for the laptop, magnifying glasses headset, and circuit that I am trying to reverse engineer. Not shown I have a cheap multimeter, dial-calipers and portable solar panel.
Reverse engineering while camping! Quite the combo of activities.
Regarding weight, can you replace the laptop with a tablet or smartphone instead?
That would be nice. Do you know of a circuit capture program that can be used on a tablet? Kicad doesn't work on a tablet.
I also wanted the laptop so I can create some designs in 3D. As far as I know there isn't a good 3D program for the tablet. If I could get a development environment for Google cardboard going that was based solely in tablets and smart-phones I would be willing to give it a try.
You could get a Microsoft surface. It will run full CAD programs and it is really light!
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I've seen a few of his vid's. Eccentric but fun to watch. I wouldn't want the electric bill for that lab!
See how neat it is? That's how mine is going to look when it's done. ;D
Rob
Me too :-DD :-DD :-DD
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:) I wonder if Mr Carlson is single??
I'm about 95% certain that I heard him mention in one of his videos that his GF/wife (not suggesting he has both, simply that I can't recall which) does some of the filming or video editing.
Sorry, Sue... :(
I have to admit I drool over his collection of gear myself. He's got quite the setup there. Some one of these years I'll start to catch up to him a little, and get things set up properly. I have an unmitigated disaster here, with stuff scattered all over the house. At some point the basement will get finished and it will migrate down there. (partially because I'm afraid if I bring it all up here the floor will collapse!)
-Pat
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I've seen a few of his vid's. Eccentric but fun to watch. I wouldn't want the electric bill for that lab!
See how neat it is? That's how mine is going to look when it's done. ;D
Rob
Me too :-DD :-DD :-DD
I aspire in that direction as well. Slowly but surely...
-Pat
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Regarding weight, can you replace the laptop with a tablet or smartphone instead?
That would be nice. Do you know of a circuit capture program that can be used on a tablet? Kicad doesn't work on a tablet.
I also wanted the laptop so I can create some designs in 3D. As far as I know there isn't a good 3D program for the tablet.
Those requirements do make the available options much smaller. As ECEdesign mentioned, a Surface running Windows might be an option. Linux on a tablet might be another. Depends if cutting the weight is worth the cost and effort.
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She's brand new captain.... take her out slow.
Nice! We finally get to see all the goodies from your shopping cart. :-+
Mighty hefty shelves you've got there.
I go on vacation tomorrow, more like a staycation.
Have a good staycation.
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just in case this has not been seen
not my lab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM)
Is Mr Carlson a member here?
:) I wonder if Mr Carlson is single??
Hah - he is married.
Let's also hope his lab is as well constructed as he suggests it is in one of his videos. Everyone keeps telling us the west coast of Canada(Vancouver area) will have a big earthquake on of these days and he has more then a few pounds of gear in that lab.
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He certainly knows how to make use of the vertical.
Everyone keeps telling us the west coast of Canada(Vancouver area) will have a big earthquake on of these days and he has more then a few pounds of gear in that lab.
I suppose he'd just drop under the workbench right quick. ;D
Getting out afterward might be a problem, though.
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She's brand new captain.... take her out slow.
Nice! We finally get to see all the goodies from your shopping cart. :-+
Mighty hefty shelves you've got there.
I go on vacation tomorrow, more like a staycation.
Have a good staycation.
Thank you:)
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He certainly knows how to make use of the vertical.
Everyone keeps telling us the west coast of Canada(Vancouver area) will have a big earthquake on of these days and he has more then a few pounds of gear in that lab.
I suppose he'd just drop under the workbench right quick. ;D
Getting out afterward might be a problem, though.
Yeah, huh? I have some of that equipment. It is many things. I can assure everyone that light in weight is definitely not one of them!! That stuff would be downright ugly in an earthquake, and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it in the event of one. :o
-Pat
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Mr Calson must have some serious power going in to his lab, all of that gear running at the same time must be drawing 3-4kW at least.
I did notice one of my favourites a HP 5245L :-+
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He certainly knows how to make use of the vertical.
Everyone keeps telling us the west coast of Canada(Vancouver area) will have a big earthquake on of these days and he has more then a few pounds of gear in that lab.
Hey, hams don't call them boat anchors for nothing!
Rob
I suppose he'd just drop under the workbench right quick. ;D
Getting out afterward might be a problem, though.
Yeah, huh? I have some of that equipment. It is many things. I can assure everyone that light in weight is definitely not one of them!! That stuff would be downright ugly in an earthquake, and I wouldn't want to be anywhere near it in the event of one. :o
-Pat
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Is Mr Carlson a member here?
:) I wonder if Mr Carlson is single??
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Come here Sue, you can get a Customary marriage, which means you can have multiple wives, like the Mormons. Not sure if they have gotten around to the multiple husband side yet, but there is same sex marriage.
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I was wondering how Mr. Carlson uses those scopes? I like to see things as I probe them. Seems he has to do contortions to see the display from his bench.
(might work for him in his marriage though!) >:D
Rob
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just in case this has not been seen
not my lab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A_NqNyvaBM)
Is Mr Carlson a member here?
:) I wonder if Mr Carlson is single??
Hah - he is married.
Let's also hope his lab is as well constructed as he suggests it is in one of his videos. Everyone keeps telling us the west coast of Canada(Vancouver area) will have a big earthquake on of these days and he has more then a few pounds of gear in that lab.
Damnit......
OH Well...
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Grrrrls are too difficult to get nowadays and if you get one, it has an expensive maintenance. Like an italian car.
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Grrrrls are too difficult to get nowadays and if you get one, it has an expensive maintenance. Like an italian car.
Absolutely agree. They kick you to the curb like trash so easily. I'll stick to being single and focus on me... My education.
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Grrrrls are too difficult to get nowadays and if you get one, it has an expensive maintenance. Like an italian car.
Yes, but the car won't cheat on you with another car nor will it make fun of the size of your 'tailpipe'. Besides, the car will let you be in control.
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Also, the car won't complain if you leave the toilet seat up or if you fart whilst watching football on the TV in just your underpants whilst consuming pizza and beer. Who says men can't multitask?
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Besides, the car will let you be in control.
But for how much longer? ;D
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I can only speak for myself on this... I won't complain if the car gets old or starts looking old. I won't complain if the car stops working as good as the day I got it. The car, no matter what, will always be beautiful to me. I will always love the car as long as that car is still in the driveway each and every morning I wake up. :palm:
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I can only speak for myself on this... I won't complain if the car gets old or starts looking old. I won't complain if the car stops working as good as the day I got it. The car, no matter what, will always be beautiful to me. I will always love the car as long as that car is still in the driveway each and every morning I wake up. :palm:
Is there a vomit smiley... 8)
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I can only speak for myself on this... I won't complain if the car gets old or starts looking old. I won't complain if the car stops working as good as the day I got it. The car, no matter what, will always be beautiful to me. I will always love the car as long as that car is still in the driveway each and every morning I wake up. :palm:
Is there a vomit smiley... 8)
No there is not:) This is why I said I can only speak for myself...
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No there is not:) This is why I said I can only speak for myself...
All good... I love my 'car' very much as well... ;D
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No there is not:) This is why I said I can only speak for myself...
All good... I love my 'car' very much as well... ;D
LOL.
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The game always ends, but great companionship lasts a lifetime.
After all these years I still love my wife.
Rob
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The game always ends, but great companionship lasts a lifetime.
After all these years I still love my wife.
Rob
That's absolutely right! I'm not the only one that understands that! When you find the right person and grow old with that person, you never really get old, because you age together. She will always be as beautiful as the day you met her. You only feel old when you age alone.
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Grrrrls are too difficult to get nowadays and if you get one, it has an expensive maintenance. Like an italian car.
Yes, but the car won't cheat on you with another car nor will it make fun of the size of your 'tailpipe'. Besides, the car will let you be in control.
Also, a car won't complain if you are driving another car. I mean, what's wrong with driving another car on the weekend? That said, another driver in ones own car is a big no-no in any case, right? >:D /irony
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You only feel old when you age alone.
And when you see children, nephews, nieces, grandchildren, etc. grow up so fast.
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Not only don't you feel older, single people don't live as long as couples.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/marriage-research_n_2450639.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/marriage-research_n_2450639.html)
A healthy constructive relationship leaves you better balanced. My wife compliments my thinking and I hers, we change on a daily basis because you constantly have someone who sees the world differently than you do. It's a very important thing. Loving and being loved is the core of human existence, nothing is more important.
If you see a relationship as a confrontation, someone who is against your freedom you will never know the joy of companionships which is really a sad thing.
Rob
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The secret of course is to find a wife/girlfriend who expresses an interest in your hobby. My better half may not understand Maxwell's equations but she likes looking at the QSL cards from all over the world as they arrive and I appreciate her comments on front panel design as she has a more artistic eye than me.
Then there is the golden rule, you know when you've spent too much time in the workshop when there's a pretty woman sitting on your lap and you can't reach the bench.
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Not only don't you feel older, single people don't live as long as couples.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/marriage-research_n_2450639.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/marriage-research_n_2450639.html)
A healthy constructive relationship leaves you better balanced. My wife compliments my thinking and I hers, we change on a daily basis because you constantly have someone who sees the world differently than you do. It's a very important thing. Loving and being loved is the core of human existence, nothing is more important.
If you see a relationship as a confrontation, someone who is against your freedom you will never know the joy of companionships which is really a sad thing.
Rob
Thats so true!
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Married men don't live longer, it just feels longer :D
McBryce.
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I can only speak for myself on this... I won't complain if the car gets old or starts looking old. I won't complain if the car stops working as good as the day I got it. The car, no matter what, will always be beautiful to me. I will always love the car as long as that car is still in the driveway each and every morning I wake up. :palm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba9L6n8zj1U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ba9L6n8zj1U)
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Those guys need expensive help!
McBryce.
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Married men don't live longer, it just feels longer :D
McBryce.
LOL :-DD
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Married men may live longer, but they're much more willing to die...
-Pat
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Married men may live longer, but they're much more willing to die...
-Pat
Another old joke, why does the husband die first? Because he wants to.
German, when I show SWMBO a new QSL card, she just smiles and nods. Somehow, I don't think she is really paying attention. My wife also stays out of my office, she says it's too scary. Forget it when I am calling CQ, she closes the door even though I use a headset boom mic.
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Married men may live longer, but they're much more willing to die...
-Pat
Another old joke, why does the husband die first? Because he wants to.
German, when I show SWMBO a new QSL card, she just smiles and nods. Somehow, I don't think she is really paying attention. My wife also stays out of my office, she says it's too scary. Forget it when I am calling CQ, she closes the door even though I use a headset boom mic.
Relationships are about sharing, do you take an active interest in her hobbies? My wife spins yarn and knits, we go to wool shows together and I share in her enjoyment of her hobbies.
Do you have things you both like to do? We both like to cook. She likes to make yogurt so I made her a precision temperature controller for a crock pot because the system she used didn't make a consistently good yogurt. She knows about printed circuit boards, windmills, PV arrays and mosfets. I like to watch the Flash and she likes to watch Call the Midwife. We laugh about it!
We're companions, I wonder at times what people think relationships are about? What does your relationship mean to you? That's the question you have to ask yourself. If you want to believe "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus" then at the end of the day all you'll have is a joke about who dies first. My life is more important to me than that.
Rob
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Has this thread seriously morphed from a "What's your lab look like" to a marriage counseling session? :D
Can someone please start posting pictures of lab gear again?
McBryce.
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Married men may live longer, but they're much more willing to die...
-Pat
Another old joke, why does the husband die first? Because he wants to.
German, when I show SWMBO a new QSL card, she just smiles and nods. Somehow, I don't think she is really paying attention. My wife also stays out of my office, she says it's too scary. Forget it when I am calling CQ, she closes the door even though I use a headset boom mic.
Relationships are about sharing, do you take an active interest in her hobbies? My wife spins yarn and knits, we go to wool shows together and I share in her enjoyment of her hobbies.
Do you have things you both like to do? We both like to cook. She likes to make yogurt so I made her a precision temperature controller for a crock pot because the system she used didn't make a consistently good yogurt. She knows about printed circuit boards, windmills, PV arrays and mosfets. I like to watch the Flash and she likes to watch Call the Midwife. We laugh about it!
We're companions, I wonder at times what people think relationships are about? What does your relationship mean to you? That's the question you have to ask yourself. If you want to believe "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus" then at the end of the day all you'll have is a joke about who dies first. My life is more important to me than that.
Rob
Awwww! That's awesome Rob! Enjoy her! Thats what she's there for! Most excellent.
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Has this thread seriously morphed from a "What's your lab look like" to a marriage counseling session? :D
Can someone please start posting pictures of lab gear again?
McBryce.
I've already posted a photo of my home bench, so here's one of my work desk:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-njBWhnD/0/L/i-njBWhnD-L.jpg)
Better? :D
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Headphones and Pizza?? Does much real work get done there? :)
McBryce.
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Has this thread seriously morphed from a "What's your lab look like" to a marriage counseling session? :D
Can someone please start posting pictures of lab gear again?
McBryce.
Ok. My disaster work area at the moment:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-MHnNhjJ/0/L/IMG_3506-L.jpg)
(newly acquired HP 740B being looked over)
Rack-o-stuff (surprised this hasn't sunk into the floor yet:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-CW3tVxD/0/L/IMG_3507-L.jpg)
One of the lab assistants contemplating his next test setup a while back:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-ZRF83TP/0/L/IMG_3463-L.jpg)
The mess ebbs and flows (mostly flows) over the course of time. Eventually, when renovations are finished, it will all wind up down in the basement in a proper space.
-Pat
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Has this thread seriously morphed from a "What's your lab look like" to a marriage counseling session? :D
Can someone please start posting pictures of lab gear again?
McBryce.
Ok. My disaster work area at the moment:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-MHnNhjJ/0/L/IMG_3506-L.jpg)
(newly acquired HP 740B being looked over)
Rack-o-stuff (surprised this hasn't sunk into the floor yet:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-CW3tVxD/0/L/IMG_3507-L.jpg)
One of the lab assistants contemplating his next test setup a while back:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-ZRF83TP/0/L/IMG_3463-L.jpg)
The mess ebbs and flows (mostly flows) over the course of time. Eventually, when renovations are finished, it will all wind up down in the basement in a proper space.
-Pat
We had a cat just like that, long and slinky! He just passed a couple of weeks ago after 18 plus years, what a great cat he was. Boy you sure get attached..........
Rob
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Married men may live longer, but they're much more willing to die...
-Pat
Another old joke, why does the husband die first? Because he wants to.
German, when I show SWMBO a new QSL card, she just smiles and nods. Somehow, I don't think she is really paying attention. My wife also stays out of my office, she says it's too scary. Forget it when I am calling CQ, she closes the door even though I use a headset boom mic.
Relationships are about sharing, do you take an active interest in her hobbies? My wife spins yarn and knits, we go to wool shows together and I share in her enjoyment of her hobbies.
Do you have things you both like to do? We both like to cook. She likes to make yogurt so I made her a precision temperature controller for a crock pot because the system she used didn't make a consistently good yogurt. She knows about printed circuit boards, windmills, PV arrays and mosfets. I like to watch the Flash and she likes to watch Call the Midwife. We laugh about it!
We're companions, I wonder at times what people think relationships are about? What does your relationship mean to you? That's the question you have to ask yourself. If you want to believe "Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus" then at the end of the day all you'll have is a joke about who dies first. My life is more important to me than that.
Rob
She doesn't really have hobbies outside of candy crush and words with friends. We love to cook together when our schedules permit (I typically do the cooking). There are programs on TV we like to watch together and we try to have date night a couple of times a month. I also help her with her side business.
Rob, I certainly wasn't making that joke about my situation. We have 5 marriages between us and we have finally found what we both wanted. She is a blessing to me and I make sure to tell and show her I love her every day. We both went down broken roads to get where we are today but the road forward is paved with gold! ^-^ She is my companion, my best friend, lover, soulmate life mate and whatever other sappy adjectives you want to add. After celebrating 11 years together in April, I still don't know what she sees in me, but I am grateful that she still sees it. :phew:
Andtfoot, I have serious monitor envy :-[ The first pic is my work computer the second is my fun space. I've already posted my bench long ago. For the hams, the left radio is a Yeasu FT-1000MP and the other is a Kenwood TS-940SAT. The little slice you see on the right hand side is a stack made up of a Yeasu SP-8 speaker, Astron RS-12A and Kenwood TM-281 for the local repeaters.
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Has this thread seriously morphed from a "What's your lab look like" to a marriage counseling session? :D
Can someone please start posting pictures of lab gear again?
McBryce.
I've already posted a photo of my home bench, so here's one of my work desk:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-njBWhnD/0/L/i-njBWhnD-L.jpg)
Better? :D
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/photobucket391/760629b4f289bed303443e8fc7078f9b_zps7t1ra8bu.jpg)
Recently I reduced the number of tellies from 3 x 28" 4k to 1 x 32" 4k because I found that while they were nice to have, I only ran those 28 inchers at 3200x1800: the native resolution was just too small for my eyes, and Windows' attempt at scaling together with legacy apps doesn't work well. Two of the monitors were only used as background holding "pens" for background applications, the sheer scale of screen real estate was really just not justified when what I really needed most of the time was a good working position for the scope.
Most of the time, I found the two scopes to the far left, both mounted on quick release articulated gas spring mounts, were in front of two of the monitors anyway. Being quick release, as necessary I can readily replace them with monitors, for when I do schematics and board layouts. It's not often you need a scope at the same time as doing board layouts!
The big screen scope directly on the left of the monitor is on a DIY slide pullout turntable above the bench, so it takes up no bench space, is super convenient for knob twiddling, and is tucked away into the shelving when I have a second or third monitor going. Previously this space was behind monitors on a desk stand, so it wasn't easily accessible.
Moving those extra two monitors to occasional fixtures also provides more convenient space for other bits of test equipment.
One final thing, I don't often see under-bench slide out keyboards in lab pics. Although I accept they take a short while to get used to, I have found them incredibly convenient in the longer term, and I wouldn't have it any other way now. Another tip is to use a height-adjustable chair for your operating comfort especially if you use the same bench for soldering, coding, debugging etc.
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One final thing, I don't often see under-bench slide out keyboards in lab pics. Although I accept they take a short while to get used to, I have found them incredibly convenient in the longer term, and I wouldn't have it any other way now.
I use a wireless keyboard for similar reasons, you can put it anywhere, mine "lives" under the bench but damn handy when you need to enter a part # from a DUT that's at the workbench not at the workstation.
Find myself using it a lot while it's on my lap. :-DD
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One final thing, I don't often see under-bench slide out keyboards in lab pics. Although I accept they take a short while to get used to, I have found them incredibly convenient in the longer term, and I wouldn't have it any other way now. Another tip is to use a height-adjustable chair for your operating comfort especially if you use the same bench for soldering, coding, debugging etc.
Very nice setup, you can see a lot of thought put into that. Under bench keyboards are fine as long as, as in your setup, you have some wrist pad or at least some extra space. Some under-bench keyboard shelves are tiny, barely accommodating the keyboard itself and leave your hands kind of hanging in the air.
In my setup I too have to stack instruments quite high, as that's the only dimension I have space left. The problem is operating instruments standing or using long leads reaching the bench. BTW what's the big thing above DC load/Rigol PSU?
What is your solution to parts storage?
Also, I suppose the working area, both on the main desk and the one on the right with the microscope (soldering?) is fine for PCB projects and small devices, but what if you have to repair one of your RF boat anchors?
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In my setup I too have to stack instruments quite high, as that's the only dimension I have space left. The problem is operating instruments standing or using long leads reaching the bench.
Indeed, the least used items elevate to the top, although always with the logistical provision for reasonable lead length. Biggest problem stacking old boat anchors without shelves is that when it comes to repair, it's a PITA to unstack and restack. Shelves, though, make the stack even higher.
BTW what's the big thing above DC load/Rigol PSU?
It's an Agilent 8935 E6380A comms test set that I use for production testing boards up to 1GHz. It also has a spec an and tracking generator, although I have other bits of kit for those purposes. I have it hooked up to the monitor on the soldering bench, so you don't have to crick your neck.
Added bonus, you can listen to The Archers on it.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/photobucket391/517c3b77fe532cb3b953a569ab335b4c_zpslsmpw8v6.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/photobucket391/media/517c3b77fe532cb3b953a569ab335b4c_zpslsmpw8v6.jpg.html)
What is your solution to parts storage?
Organised chaos. I have a good stock of ordered parts purchased just to have them at hand. It is rare that I have to order a non-specialist part.
The chaos comes in the form of multiple projects, all stored away with their specific parts.
Also, I suppose the working area, both on the main desk and the one on the right with the microscope (soldering?) is fine for PCB projects and small devices, but what if you have to repair one of your RF boat anchors?
As mentioned before, it's a PITA. At that point, I take over the front room ;-)
Luckily 99% of what I do is small stuff.
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In my setup I too have to stack instruments quite high, as that's the only dimension I have space left. The problem is operating instruments standing or using long leads reaching the bench.
Indeed, the least used items elevate to the top, although always with the logistical provision for reasonable lead length. Biggest problem stacking old boat anchors without shelves is that when it comes to repair, it's a PITA to unstack and restack. Shelves, though, make the stack even higher.
BTW what's the big thing above DC load/Rigol PSU?
It's an Agilent 8935 E6380A comms test set that I use for production testing boards up to 1GHz. It also has a spec an and tracking generator, although I have other bits of kit for those purposes. I have it hooked up to the monitor on the soldering bench, so you don't have to crick your neck.
Added bonus, you can listen to The Archers on it.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d123/photobucket391/517c3b77fe532cb3b953a569ab335b4c_zpslsmpw8v6.jpg) (http://s34.photobucket.com/user/photobucket391/media/517c3b77fe532cb3b953a569ab335b4c_zpslsmpw8v6.jpg.html)
What is your solution to parts storage?
Organised chaos. I have a good stock of ordered parts purchased just to have them at hand. It is rare that I have to order a non-specialist part.
The chaos comes in the form of multiple projects, all stored away with their specific parts.
Also, I suppose the working area, both on the main desk and the one on the right with the microscope (soldering?) is fine for PCB projects and small devices, but what if you have to repair one of your RF boat anchors?
As mentioned before, it's a PITA. At that point, I take over the front room ;-)
Luckily 99% of what I do is small stuff.
Howard,
I do projects the same way. I have parts boxes labeled "in use", "in use 1", "in use 2", etc. for each project. I have a lot of parts but I never seem to have the right one!
Rob
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We had a cat just like that, long and slinky! He just passed a couple of weeks ago after 18 plus years, what a great cat he was. Boy you sure get attached..........
Rob
So true. I'm sorry to hear of your loss - it's never easy when one crosses the bridge; after eighteen years even more so. I had another orange tabby that passed in '07, just a bit shy of 18. Very heartbreaking.
Gilmore is one of six that presently run amok here. He and his two remaining sisters moved in here a year ago this Friday joining two I already had, then one more was added a few months later when I was caught off guard by a friend's wife and unable to come up with a good counter to "If you already have five, you'll barely even notice a sixth!" and wound up taking in a stray. :-DD
He is the only boy kitty (well, was...) and is definitely the most adventurous of the lot, seeming to enjoy nothing so much as getting into things he's not supposed to.
He knows he's not supposed to get on the shelf with the test equipment:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-JTmtcct/0/L/IMG_3091-L.jpg)
'New' scope cart - he's the first to check it out:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-w4jP7D9/0/L/IMG_3405-L.jpg)
Oh, and he does ladders, too. Kept hearing that tell tale aluminum extension ladder rattling from upstairs (In the midst of a renovation; it's there for access to a small attic), but when I'd go to investigate would hear a thump and several felines would scatter. Finally heard it the other morning at about 3 AM and very quietly crept up there in bare feet. He was in the attic, and on his way back down as he knew he'd been caught. He got down a few steps before I could get the damned flash on the phone turned on, but at least I know what's causing the noise now...
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-wsvGJhj/0/L/IMG_3502-L.jpg)
I found him coming down again yesterday during the day, too. He's a little hooligan, that one! >:D
-Pat
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The bench with the Keysight MSOX-6004A 6Ghz Scope from the Scope Month win!
Not much time to play yet, but I am getting caught up on work so I hope to dive in soon.
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Indeed, the least used items elevate to the top, although always with the logistical provision for reasonable lead length. Biggest problem stacking old boat anchors without shelves is that when it comes to repair, it's a PITA to unstack and restack. Shelves, though, make the stack even higher.
Heh, I have the same kind of garage shelving unit. Cheap, but sturdy when assembled. On the top I keep Tektronix TLA704, probably my biggest boat anchor. Fortunately logic probes are quite long and the analyzer itself is operated remotely via LAN. Once I'm done setting my lab in this house (had to move recently) I will post a picture.
My soldering/electronics bench is also from the same series, just 120x60 and screwed where possible to the shelving unit (where the instruments are). I don't find it big enough, for example I worry how I'm going to put a double boom AmScope when I get one, but well space is limited. Stuff that is rarely used (A6902B, SR850, normal microscope, heavy variac etc) is on the bottom shelf of the rack (pretty much the floor), so if I need that I need to get under the bench and pull it out.
I like the idea of magnetic tool holders, will add that to my shopping list. For now to the beams of this rack I attached a USB 3.0 hub and an old 19" monitor on a swivel mount (mostly to check datasheets or open serial terminal etc. and thanks to the mount I can move it away if I need to see the screens of DS1054Z or 2467). I still need to think about attaching some lights to the shelves. I have some of these LED lights (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222115723938 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222115723938)), but I would have to mount them at an angle and with some covers, so it doesn't either blind me or shine onto the instrument displays (for example making old VFDs even less readable than they already are).
Organised chaos. I have a good stock of ordered parts purchased just to have them at hand. It is rare that I have to order a non-specialist part.
The chaos comes in the form of multiple projects, all stored away with their specific parts.
I see. There seem to be no good solution to this :) In my case it is quite similar, either things grouped by project (although sometimes just mentally) or generic components (RLC, some common ICs, connectors or just occasional splurges on Aliexpress) in plastic drawers, component boxes and so on. Probes that I got without original packaging (e.g. Tek diff or current probes) I keep in 170/25.096.GPB / 170/28.207 SPU boxes from Farnell.
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One of the lab assistants contemplating his next test setup a while back:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-ZRF83TP/0/L/IMG_3463-L.jpg)
You win cutest "lab cat" contest so far!
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@Cubdriver, Pat, seriously cute cat.
Re keyboard; I used an old set of draw runners under one of the lower shelves, (again apologies for stuff on the bench and the pile-o-DMMs in the corner) it does tuck away quite nicely and comes out over the layer of "stuff" when looking up data sheets etc.
Below are the two dogs who share our house, the good thing about Airedale Terriers is they don't shed hair, but have to get them clipped.
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The bench with the Keysight MSOX-6004A 6Ghz Scope from the Scope Month win!
Not much time to play yet, but I am getting caught up on work so I hope to dive in soon.
You won a scope, wow, that's great! I have a couple of those HP supplies. I added jacks to the front to use them on my bench, but no I mainly use the TTI 1080MX triple supply to try and save room on the bench.
Pat,
Love the assistant, those tabby cats have always been special!
Rob
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I'm impressed about the amount of equipment some of you have !. Almost to shy to post my bench, but it works for me and I'm happy with it.
I'm working on a battery feeded mysensors node right now and have about all my equipment on the bench.
Doing some measurements arround the step up convertor, where is the optimal and minimal Vbatt. What is the result in noise on Vcc and current draw from the battery.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/Rlnd/Misc/20160709_151200_zpsa0niyygc.jpg)
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Nice bench lots of room to spread out. I love it. :-+ :-+
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-ZRF83TP/0/L/IMG_3463-L.jpg)
"Yeees, this will prove useful for my experiments. Bwah, ha, ha, haaa!"
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Almost to shy to post my bench, but it works for me and I'm happy with it.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/Rlnd/Misc/20160709_151200_zpsa0niyygc.jpg)
No worries. Print out and hang some schematics of various sizes on the back wall and you'll be all set. :-+
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I'm impressed about the amount of equipment some of you have !. Almost to shy to post my bench, but it works for me and I'm happy with it.
I'm working on a battery feeded mysensors node right now and have about all my equipment on the bench.
Doing some measurements arround the step up convertor, where is the optimal and minimal Vbatt. What is the result in noise on Vcc and current draw from the battery.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/Rlnd/Misc/20160709_151200_zpsa0niyygc.jpg)
I admire people who can accomplish so much with so little!
Rob
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I've already posted a photo of my home bench, so here's one of my work desk:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-njBWhnD/0/L/i-njBWhnD-L.jpg)
Better? :D
Crikey, I thought three monitors was a strain on my neck!
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I've already posted a photo of my home bench, so here's one of my work desk:
Are you a programmer with all those monitors?
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I'm impressed about the amount of equipment some of you have !. Almost to shy to post my bench, but it works for me and I'm happy with it.
I'm working on a battery feeded mysensors node right now and have about all my equipment on the bench.
Doing some measurements arround the step up convertor, where is the optimal and minimal Vbatt. What is the result in noise on Vcc and current draw from the battery.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/Rlnd/Misc/20160709_151200_zpsa0niyygc.jpg)
I have the same amount of equipment that you have but much much less space so half my table is taken up by a shelf of equipment and some supplies and the other half empty for electronics work. My table is way smaller than yours but i have computer stuff seperated from electronics. Since i do both computing and electronics now for fun my setup would be mediocre for both but it is fairly decent. As for the computing side i have a 36 core enterprise router, a fully managed switch, a cluster of 6 computers (some are in need of board repairs otherwise 8) (Most can be rackmounted) and a cluster of smaller things like some ARM powered devices like raspberry pi 2, more boards and so on. For the electronics bit i have an SMD station (OEM rebadged, not chinese clones), chunky PSU that can provide 30V with 10A or 60V with 5A, my GW instek scope, lots of tools both passive like pliers and active like DMMs and a some supplies.
Ofcourse despite having GPUs in the cluster i managed to pack things into 2U cases. Only 2 PCs are in desktop cases as 1 is personal and the other is just for the cooling.
I'll take a picture once i get things in order. There will be some creativity involved. At least i have more computing stuff than Dave :P
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I started out with way less. A walwart, a breadboard, RadioShack resistor kit, and bunch of parts from mouser. Oh, and a car battery for anything that needed amps above a wal wart(needless to say, I melted a few wires).
I really enjoy 2 or three monitors. It makes looking at data sheets, and a PCB, and maybe a schematic so much more intuitive when you have all three.
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I've already posted a photo of my home bench, so here's one of my work desk:
Are you a programmer with all those monitors?
Sometimes, but it's not my main role.
I get the most use out of them when I'm doing Audio Visual system design. For that I'll often have open at least:
- Bill of Materials for the job
- System schematic
- Product datasheets
- Floor plan/room info
- Scope of Works
and then sometimes audio DSP and/or programming software to check theories and build a base config as I go.
Hmm... I could use a 5th monitor ;D
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I started out with way less. A walwart, ...
At first, I thought you wrote that you started out with a WalMart. :-DD
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I'm impressed about the amount of equipment some of you have !. Almost to shy to post my bench, but it works for me and I'm happy with it.
I'm working on a battery feeded mysensors node right now and have about all my equipment on the bench.
Doing some measurements arround the step up convertor, where is the optimal and minimal Vbatt. What is the result in noise on Vcc and current draw from the battery.
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a134/Rlnd/Misc/20160709_151200_zpsa0niyygc.jpg)
Those impressive equipment pictures are often results of years if not decades of collecting them...
My own small lab is no more fancy then you have... Ok added under desk lighting to see my component storage boxes better and ESD mat havent arrived yet... Not enough to post new picture of it...
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What a kitchen table should really be used for.
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This is the lab I've put together over the past year more or less. Mainly from eBay purchases but also some Craigslist and a few new items. Most of it was bought broken and repaired, many of the items have since been sold which is what funded the new gear. It has been my fun evening/weekend hobby all spurred on by the EEVBlog.
Not in the shot is my computer workstation but mainly I use a laptop when referring to schematics, part lists etc.
For anyone else interested in buying/repairing gear mainly from eBay I've posted my top tips here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/top-tips-to-building-your-lab-with-ebay/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/top-tips-to-building-your-lab-with-ebay/)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=242256)
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@VE7FM:
Your lab looks awesome!
I was also infected with the instrumentation virus.. But I buy too much material and I am now out of money. The advice you give is very good, thank you very much for sharing ...
I think there are too many people on ebay behind bargains and that makes it increasingly more difficult to find one, here in Europe we have not much variety of used or broken gear as you in USA, so it is more difficult to find bargains, but in any case It's a hobby and just You have to be patient ..
The hardest thing is to have patience.. HI HI
Regards
Manuel
EA7EE
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God, I love this thread. This is what got me hooked on EEVBlog. I guess you know you're a nerd, if you get a little chubby looking at these pictures.
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For anyone else interested in buying/repairing gear mainly from eBay I've posted my top tips here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/top-tips-to-building-your-lab-with-ebay/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/top-tips-to-building-your-lab-with-ebay/)
Very nice bench. Also your Ebay tips are well advised. Many people seem to think they have to buy brand new equipment, when there is a plethora of very nice used test equipment on Ebay. Well over half of my nice test equipment is used gear.
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This is the lab I've put together over the past year more or less. Mainly from eBay purchases but also some Craigslist and a few new items. Most of it was bought broken and repaired, many of the items have since been sold which is what funded the new gear.
Great setup you have there, Steve. Are the rear shelves mounted to the wall or free-standing?
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This is the lab I've put together over the past year more or less. Mainly from eBay purchases but also some Craigslist and a few new items. Most of it was bought broken and repaired, many of the items have since been sold which is what funded the new gear.
Great setup you have there, Steve. Are the rear shelves mounted to the wall or free-standing?
They are wall mounted. The poor table already has enough weight on it and has needed to have an extra post added under the network analyzer/signal gen/Tek scope stack.
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Here's my modest bench setup. I built the table and movable shelves myself.
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Love all the stained wood, Mark.
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Here's my modest bench setup. I built the table and movable shelves myself.
Nice setup. You did a great job on the carpentry! Also those Dell monitors are quite nice!
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I was wondering if anyone had a portable rack for setting up test equipment...I'd love to be able to roll out my test equipment when I needed it and have a nice clean work desk otherwise. (small 1br apartment).
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I haven't tried it, but sounds like a great solution for compact spaces. Some of the labs shown here have rolling shelf units. You can probably use one or more of the same.
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What a kitchen table should really be used for.
I'm tempted to take a snap of my kitchen, but it's embarrassingly bachelor... :palm: :palm:
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The latest iteration of my bench. I rearranged a bunch of stuff for better workflow/ease of access. :-/O
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Nice layout. I assume the shelving was custom? I also like the under shelf mounting. Where do you keep your soldering equipment?
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Here is my lab. It's the spare bedroom. I mainly work on electronic boards for work. The equipment is used on oil&gas platforms in the Gulf of Mexico (fog horns and nav-aid lights)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/03479d154f825997a16f27a6f80cd229.png)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160724/6cfb697f3660b0526e1776831953ac9e.jpg)
OSER WORLD
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Nice Workbenches....
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Nice layout. I assume the shelving was custom? I also like the under shelf mounting. Where do you keep your soldering equipment?
Thanks! The entire bench was scratch built by me. See the overall view below. Tools and soldering equipment are kept in the 3 drawers on the right when not in use. The bench is dual use and normally my laptop resides in that space when not working on a project. The bench is in my living room so I try to keep it neat. And I can close the upper louver doors for an even neater appearance but I rarely do.
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Thanks! The entire bench was scratch built by me. See the overall view below. Tools and soldering equipment are kept in the 3 drawers on the right when not in use. The bench is dual use and normally my laptop resides in that space when not working on a project. The bench is in my living room so I try to keep it neat. And I can close the upper louver doors for an even neater appearance but I rarely do.
Neat, sweet, and petite! :)
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Thanks! The entire bench was scratch built by me. See the overall view below. Tools and soldering equipment are kept in the 3 drawers on the right when not in use. The bench is dual use and normally my laptop resides in that space when not working on a project. The bench is in my living room so I try to keep it neat. And I can close the upper louver doors for an even neater appearance but I rarely do.
Neat, sweet, and petite! :)
The custom shelf for "single blue folder" is very cool. It must be a pretty important folder to get its own shelf! So what's in the folder?
McBryce.
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The custom shelf for "single blue folder" is very cool. It must be a pretty important folder to get its own shelf! So what's in the folder?
McBryce.
It's basically my "Operating Manual". I'm a stickler for up to date and accurate documentation. All the important stuff in one manual. Contents page attached.
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Wow, and that all fits in that small folder?
McBryce.
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It's basically my "Operating Manual". I'm a stickler for up to date and accurate documentation. All the important stuff in one manual. Contents page attached.
Impressive record keeping! :-+
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Wow, and that all fits in that small folder?
McBryce.
Wow, I never thought that the mysterious blue book would generate so much interest.
It is basically a summary document and a quick reference and while it does provide a lot of detail (It's nearly full) it also gives locations for additional information. For example...
Under Test Equipment: The Tek 2465 scope. A summary of it's status (Functional, non-functional, last calibration date, etc). A detail listing of repairs done and dates. A picture of the scope. The location of the operator/service manuals. Which in this case are PDF files so it lists the computer folder which contains the documents. (Backed up of course!)
Under Electronic Projects: These are projects built by me either my own design or from other sources. A basic description of what it does and how it operates. A schematic. A picture of the device. And the location of any additional reference material.
That's just 2 examples but I think it gives you an idea of what that blue book contains.
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That's just 2 examples but I think it gives you an idea of what that blue book contains.
I do something similar with a Wiki running on my internal Webserver.
-> List of all devices, purchase date, garantie, firmware version, firmware update links, calibration status/date, additional infos ...
Cheers
hammy
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Some assembly required......
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=244746;image)
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Yellow walls reminds me of...
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Some assembly required......
Your workbench isn't deep enough. :(
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Some assembly required......
Your workbench isn't deep enough. :(
Not ergonomically at the right working height either…
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Some assembly required......
Your workbench isn't deep enough. :(
Not ergonomically at the right working height either…
Nah, you wouldn't want it any higher, or deeper, or you can't reach it from sitting on the ground.
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Some assembly required......
Your workbench isn't deep enough. :(
Not ergonomically at the right working height either…
Nah, you wouldn't want it any higher, or deeper, or you can't reach it from sitting on the ground.
On an antistatic or insulated mat?
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It's a convenient setup for hanging leads and cables on though....
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No thanks to Dave and the rest of you very well equipped guys I'm constantly penniless; anyways, here is my modest lab I started building 4 months ago. My ghetto lab sits in my bedroom on a table made of a door and saw horses.
I really would like to get my hands on a good LCR meter and a spectrum analyzer or two, but now that I've burned through any sort of savings, they will have to wait. When it does come time for me to purchase a good LCR meter, should I get a HP bench LCR meter or should I purchase something like the DER EE DE-5000? Which is more accurate?
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No thanks to Dave and the rest of you very well equipped guys I'm constantly penniless; anyways, here is my modest lab I started building 4 months ago. My ghetto lab sits in my bedroom on a table made of a door and saw horses.
I really would like to get my hands on a good LCR meter and a spectrum analyzer or two, but now that I've burned through any sort of savings, they will have to wait. When it does come time for me to purchase a good LCR meter, should I get a HP bench LCR meter or should I purchase something like the DER EE DE-5000? Which is more accurate?
Very nice - every good lab should have Lady Heather running the show!
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No thanks to Dave and the rest of you very well equipped guys I'm constantly penniless; anyways, here is my modest lab I started building 4 months ago. My ghetto lab sits in my bedroom on a table made of a door and saw horses.
I really would like to get my hands on a good LCR meter and a spectrum analyzer or two, but now that I've burned through any sort of savings, they will have to wait. When it does come time for me to purchase a good LCR meter, should I get a HP bench LCR meter or should I purchase something like the DER EE DE-5000? Which is more accurate?
I like using doors as bench tops. The hole for the door handle makes a great place to snake wires from the desktop to the floor.
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What's the extractor pipe for? Do you produce a lot of excess gas in there?
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What's the extractor pipe for? Do you produce a lot of excess gas in there?
Probably an air conditioner.
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No thanks to Dave and the rest of you very well equipped guys I'm constantly penniless; anyways, here is my modest lab I started building 4 months ago. My ghetto lab sits in my bedroom on a table made of a door and saw horses.
I really would like to get my hands on a good LCR meter and a spectrum analyzer or two, but now that I've burned through any sort of savings, they will have to wait. When it does come time for me to purchase a good LCR meter, should I get a HP bench LCR meter or should I purchase something like the DER EE DE-5000? Which is more accurate?
Very nice - every good lab should have Lady Heather running the show!
Thanks, Lady Heather runs splendidly. I picked up a Nortel Trimble NTBW50AA and I have PLL with my HP 33120A and my counters. I was going to pick up a rubidium oscillator, but I found out that they had worse short term accuracy and they were likely close to the end of their usable lives.
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What's the extractor pipe for? Do you produce a lot of excess gas in there?
Probably an air conditioner.
Yes, it is an air conditioner; it will likely be hot this August and September in SoCal.
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No thanks to Dave and the rest of you very well equipped guys I'm constantly penniless; anyways, here is my modest lab I started building 4 months ago. My ghetto lab sits in my bedroom on a table made of a door and saw horses.
It's good to make use of old doors, especially the solid-core variety. I like the way you've alternated between half-rack and full-rack width instruments in your stack.
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My ghetto lab sits in my bedroom on a table made of a door and saw horses.
Your black shelf looks like the ones Costco sells. I took 2 and placed them perpendicular to the wall, put a 6 foot Costco folding table between them. Then I took three 8 foot boards and used the plastic shelves to support them over the table. This way I was able to get a table and a lot of shelves without any fasteners.
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No table space for the bananas, kids these days are doing it so tough.
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In my Freshman year I had a 20 sq m (215 sq ft) apartment, small but perfectly formed. By the time I had added the bed, the TV and the bookshelf there was not much room for anything else. Good for practising the minimalist lifestyle.
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My new dorm lab.
That's a very nice compact set up. I recommend your next upgrade be to a more comfortable chair. :)
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My new dorm lab.
That's a very nice compact set up. I recommend your next upgrade be to a more comfortable chair. :)
He's young... That'll work just fine. I remember when I'd be able to sit in a chair like that for hours and stand up afterward... Those days were nice.
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You even have more room than i do for my work space.
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In my Freshman year I had a 20 sq m (215 sq ft) apartment, small but perfectly formed. By the time I had added the bed, the TV and the bookshelf there was not much room for anything else. Good for practising the minimalist lifestyle.
Wow, that's the size of my home office. :palm:
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My new dorm lab.
Since I think you are in Florida and may have gotten your tables at Costco, you can expand vertically if you get Costco plastic shelves (also available at Home Depot) and place them at the ends of the table (perpendicular to the wall) and put boards across them to form shelves above the tables. The boards have to be longer than the tables. My tables are 6 feet and I use 8 foot boards (2x12s). The span of the two plastic shelves and table works out to be about 9 feet.
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My new dorm lab.
Since I think you are in Florida and may have gotten your tables at Costco, you can expand vertically if you get Costco plastic shelves (also available at Home Depot) and place them at the ends of the table (perpendicular to the wall) and put boards across them to form shelves above the tables. The boards have to be longer than the tables. My tables are 6 feet and I use 8 foot boards (2x12s). The span of the two plastic shelves and table works out to be about 9 feet.
That is dangerous... the Costco plastic shelves will sag if you put any weight on them:
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My new dorm lab.
Since I think you are in Florida and may have gotten your tables at Costco, you can expand vertically if you get Costco plastic shelves (also available at Home Depot) and place them at the ends of the table (perpendicular to the wall) and put boards across them to form shelves above the tables. The boards have to be longer than the tables. My tables are 6 feet and I use 8 foot boards (2x12s). The span of the two plastic shelves and table works out to be about 9 feet.
That is dangerous... the Costco plastic shelves will sag if you put any weight on them:
Well, that's certainly one point on the "any" scale.
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That is dangerous... the Costco plastic shelves will sag if you put any weight on them:
soooo many tek modules ,,wouldnt you have for sale a 7a22 ?? ::)
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My new dorm lab. Since I am now having a great commercializable idea, I do not want the university to be part of it. After discussing with my professor, he wants to help me starting a business, but according to patent agreement I signed with the university, I can not use any resource from the university, including my lab and my office.
Therefore, I moved my equipments to my dorm, and started a dorm lab. This also allows me to work in a soho fashion. All equipments shown here are my personal property, and all parts are either paid by my professor's own funding, or from my pocket.
I would be sure to look carefully at the agreement. I was an employee of the University of California for many years - first as a PhD student and later as a research associate and lecturer. IIRC my agreement said ALL intellectual property I developed while employed belonged to the University - independent of who owned the equipment I may have used to develop it.
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My new dorm lab.
Since I think you are in Florida and may have gotten your tables at Costco, you can expand vertically if you get Costco plastic shelves (also available at Home Depot) and place them at the ends of the table (perpendicular to the wall) and put boards across them to form shelves above the tables. The boards have to be longer than the tables. My tables are 6 feet and I use 8 foot boards (2x12s). The span of the two plastic shelves and table works out to be about 9 feet.
That is dangerous... the Costco plastic shelves will sag if you put any weight on them:
WoW, are you sure you have enough Tek plug-ins. :)
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My new dorm lab. Since I am now having a great commercializable idea, I do not want the university to be part of it. After discussing with my professor, he wants to help me starting a business, but according to patent agreement I signed with the university, I can not use any resource from the university, including my lab and my office.
Therefore, I moved my equipments to my dorm, and started a dorm lab. This also allows me to work in a soho fashion. All equipments shown here are my personal property, and all parts are either paid by my professor's own funding, or from my pocket.
I would be sure to look carefully at the agreement. I was an employee of the University of California for many years - first as a PhD student and later as a research associate and lecturer. IIRC my agreement said ALL intellectual property I developed while employed belonged to the University - independent of who owned the equipment I may have used to develop it.
Well, after reading your post, I went through our patent policy, and it is true. The university owns all patents during my employment.
Please suggest me, if you have similar experience, should I:
1. disclose the technology and make it never patentable.
2. let the university to apply a patent for me, while having exception that I can license this patent for free to myself, my company and its potential subsidiaries and my employer.
3. let the university to apply a patent, while providing ambiguous information that makes the patent hard to defend.
4. secretly transfer the IP to my family in China, and let them to apply the patent (technically illegal but hard to collect evidence, and can get me fired, so this is my last choice).
5. just give all patents to the university, I get 40% of the revenue, the university gets 10%, then 50% reserved for compensating application cost of non profiting patents (patent trust).
I have no intention of protecting my invention from being monetized by the others (I do not have time to sue thousands of small Chinese companies, and I do not have money to sue big international players as well), but I do not want to pay the university for using my own invention either. The intention of applying a patent is solely for marketing purpose (Chinese companies are superstitious to western patents).
6. take your time, develop the technology while your a phd in yor dorm lab, anf after you leave that place ( time flies) do whatever you want with it
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Well, after reading your post, I went through our patent policy, and it is true. The university owns all patents during my employment.
Please suggest me, if you have similar experience, should I:
1. disclose the technology and make it never patentable.
2. let the university to apply a patent for me, while having exception that I can license this patent for free to myself, my company and its potential subsidiaries and my employer.
3. let the university to apply a patent, while providing ambiguous information that makes the patent hard to defend.
4. secretly transfer the IP to my family in China, and let them to apply the patent (technically illegal but hard to collect evidence, and can get me fired, so this is my last choice).
5. just give all patents to the university, I get 40% of the revenue, the university gets 10%, then 50% reserved for compensating application cost of non profiting patents (patent trust).
I have no intention of protecting my invention from being monetized by the others (I do not have time to sue thousands of small Chinese companies, and I do not have money to sue big international players as well), but I do not want to pay the university for using my own invention either. The intention of applying a patent is solely for marketing purpose (Chinese companies are superstitious to western patents).
I would worry less about money now and more on name recognition of your product with you. If you publish this technology (either in a publication or by your name on a patent) I think it would be really good for your future career if people can look at your widget and then see who developed it. I think you are wise to not be worried about trying to protect your goods against others. Suing other companies can go into the millions pretty quick. So I think this brings you back to having the technology in whichever form gives you more recognition for developing it.
Really like your dorm lab though! I am working on setting mine up although my room is a little smaller than that... What keyboard do you have btw?
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My new dorm lab. Since I am now having a great commercializable idea, I do not want the university to be part of it. After discussing with my professor, he wants to help me starting a business, but according to patent agreement I signed with the university, I can not use any resource from the university, including my lab and my office.
Therefore, I moved my equipments to my dorm, and started a dorm lab. This also allows me to work in a soho fashion. All equipments shown here are my personal property, and all parts are either paid by my professor's own funding, or from my pocket.
I would be sure to look carefully at the agreement. I was an employee of the University of California for many years - first as a PhD student and later as a research associate and lecturer. IIRC my agreement said ALL intellectual property I developed while employed belonged to the University - independent of who owned the equipment I may have used to develop it.
Well, after reading your post, I went through our patent policy, and it is true. The university owns all patents during my employment.
Please suggest me, if you have similar experience, should I:
1. disclose the technology and make it never patentable.
2. let the university to apply a patent for me, while having exception that I can license this patent for free to myself, my company and its potential subsidiaries and my employer.
3. let the university to apply a patent, while providing ambiguous information that makes the patent hard to defend.
4. secretly transfer the IP to my family in China, and let them to apply the patent (technically illegal but hard to collect evidence, and can get me fired, so this is my last choice).
5. just give all patents to the university, I get 40% of the revenue, the university gets 10%, then 50% reserved for compensating application cost of non profiting patents (patent trust).
I have no direct experience with this. I've never developed anything worth patenting. :(
But I would suggest #2 and/or #5. Good luck.
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Holy thread drift Batman!
Why don't you patent guys go get a room.. :)
Seriously though, that's an interesting problem that probably deserves it's own topic so it doesn't get lost.
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Since I think you are in Florida and may have gotten your tables at Costco, you can expand vertically if you get Costco plastic shelves (also available at Home Depot) and place them at the ends of the table (perpendicular to the wall) and put boards across them to form shelves above the tables. The boards have to be longer than the tables. My tables are 6 feet and I use 8 foot boards (2x12s). The span of the two plastic shelves and table works out to be about 9 feet.
That is dangerous... the Costco plastic shelves will sag if you put any weight on them:
Well, that's certainly one point on the "any" scale.
I thought people here would enjoy that photo, but actually the Costco shelves will eventually sag just from their own weight.
WoW, are you sure you have enough Tek plug-ins. :)
Apparently not, the other day I was looking for a fully working 7A13 (out of 17 on the shelf), and struck out :-//
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We had a cat just like that, long and slinky! He just passed a couple of weeks ago after 18 plus years, what a great cat he was. Boy you sure get attached..........
Rob
Oh, and he does ladders, too. Kept hearing that tell tale aluminum extension ladder rattling from upstairs (In the midst of a renovation; it's there for access to a small attic), but when I'd go to investigate would hear a thump and several felines would scatter. Finally heard it the other morning at about 3 AM and very quietly crept up there in bare feet. He was in the attic, and on his way back down as he knew he'd been caught. He got down a few steps before I could get the damned flash on the phone turned on, but at least I know what's causing the noise now...
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-wsvGJhj/0/L/IMG_3502-L.jpg)
I found him coming down again yesterday during the day, too. He's a little hooligan, that one! >:D
-Pat
So that's ceiling cat!
Brian
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Yes, he's going on break.
-Pat
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(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-wsvGJhj/0/L/IMG_3502-L.jpg)
Please post pictures of the cat's work bench, I assume it is in the hole.
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Please post pictures of the cat's work bench, I assume it is in the hole.
No, he uses my equipment.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-ZRF83TP/0/L/IMG_3463-L.jpg)
<Edit to add - this would have been a priceless photo had that LCR meter been turned on...>
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HHKB Professional 2 black non printed, I then replaced some keys with white keycaps.
I have a couple of HHKB Lite 2 and they're great. Mine are over 15 years old and still work, and at less than 12" x 5", take up very little desk space.
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No, he uses my equipment.
<Edit to add - this would have been a priceless photo had that LCR meter been turned on...>
Yes, I would love to know what value a cat measure to :-DD
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<Edit to add - this would have been a priceless photo had that LCR meter been turned on...>
That's nothing a little Photoshop work can't fix.
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The university owns all patents during my employment.
I just saw a video of an undergraduate class at Cornell and the prof said that as undergrad students any "rights" would belong to them. So sign up for a related undergraduate class.
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My new dorm lab. Since I am now having a great commercializable idea, I do not want the university to be part of it. After discussing with my professor, he wants to help me starting a business, but according to patent agreement I signed with the university, I can not use any resource from the university, including my lab and my office.
Therefore, I moved my equipments to my dorm, and started a dorm lab. This also allows me to work in a soho fashion. All equipments shown here are my personal property, and all parts are either paid by my professor's own funding, or from my pocket.
My visa status does not allow me to start a business in the US, and my Chinese nationality does not allow me to start an off shore in China as well, so I am looking for getting an off shore company in Canada. Another benefit of getting a business in Canada is Canada green card is way easier to get compared to the US (providing I have a graduate level degree, which I have an MSEE, and am working on a PhD).
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=245323)
This is super interesting, especially given the politics as of late in the United States. Thanks for the enlightening post, and I hope the best in your business ventures!
Thanks,
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Updated action shot. Repairing a few production PCB's. The scope is setup with some timing tests and the computer monitor is setup for data sheet, schematics,etc - but mostly it is used for YouTube engineering videos and tutorials while I build things. This is my place about 12-14hrs/day. Trying to take a break, but that is not working out very well.
This bench is a catch all - design, validation, repair, production, mechanical, etc. Really hoping to add a separate bench dedicated to assembly only, leaving this one for design work. Right now, all my money is going into probes for the scope - none left for the bench or anything else.
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That Zephyrtronics dispenser, I wonder what they were thinking when they designed the top that way instead of making it like any other box.
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That Zephyrtronics dispenser, I wonder what they were thinking when they designed the top that way instead of making it like any other box.
Horrible design for sure, but very reliable and useful. That box has dispensed 100's of thousands of dots. Paste, flux, and glue. I would be lost without it.
They are a weird company with a very odd web site.
Sent from my horrible mobile....
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That Zephyrtronics dispenser, I wonder what they were thinking when they designed the top that way instead of making it like any other box.
Horrible design for sure, but very reliable and useful. That box has dispensed 100's of thousands of dots. Paste, flux, and glue. I would be lost without it.
They are a weird company with a very odd web site.
Sent from my horrible mobile....
What is your youtube channel?
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Now the fun begins....
and by that, I mean I try to jack and pack the floor myself, then lay a floating floor on top, and start building some benches and shelves......
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Here my workbench and my rack with precision tools. All located in the basement, thus qite constant temperature during the whole year.
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Here my workbench and my rack with precision tools. All located in the basement, thus qite constant temperature during the whole year.
That is a nice collection of high precision instruments.
Are you using this for hobby only or professionally?
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I was engineering consultant in the past - now just fun & hobby - but I am still a volt-nut.
The pictures don't show all my gear, they are in the closed cabinets.
As I don't need them regular, they are protected against dust and accidental damage that way.
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If not recognized:
- on the rack (left to right): HP 735A, HP 419A, Guildline 9152T-P4
- in the rack (top down): HP 3458A, Datron 1281, Fluke 5450A, KH 4601, Fluke 3330B
- in the shelf (top down, left to right):
Agilent 66309D, HP 6624
SDG1005, Fluke 8506A
DIY 1GHz Frequency counter
PREMA 3040, HP 34401A, Fuke 8840A
Rigol DS1104Z
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Very nice. The PREMA 3040 from a distance looks a bit like an HP 3478A
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Finally got a proper desk just for tinkering... I think it'll do for now.
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Here my workbench and my rack with precision tools. All located in the basement, thus qite constant temperature during the whole year.
Didn't recognize anything but the Rigol and 3458... I must be not volt-nut enough ;).
HP/Agilent 34401a, 66309/11/19/21a, and Fluke 8840a are easy to recognize :)
and HP 419A Null detector in another picture?
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Finally got a proper desk just for tinkering... I think it'll do for now.
Holy shit this is one sexy looking desk, Wish I had one like this for my lab.
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I'm thinking of building a shelf for my desk, because there's isn't enough space on it for the crap I have on it *and* the projects I do. Not all of it electronic either... Plan is to get pre-cut aluminium extrusions, and cut some wood boards to fit at my local makerspace.
So a question for the people who have a similar setup: Any recommendations for what size aluminium extrusions to use? I've flipped though a Misumi catalog and there are *lots* of options.
And while we're on the topic? What's a good wood type to use too? I figure I want something reasonably cheap, strong, and easy to cut on a CNC router.
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A workbench is being born!
I have been preparing for next winter's Minnesota weather, collecting some instruments in fleebay and trying to setup a workbench. In the last couple of weeks I hung up on the wall some shelves standards, just one shelf for now...
This week I have been looking for a proper desk, and after much looking in the various office and hardware stores, Amazon, etc..., yesterday I found what I was looking for at the Habitat for Humanity Re-Store recycling store. A super solid table, 6'x3' (182cm x 91cm), with two cast aluminum/chrome/cast iron legs, laminate top with a solid aluminum rim. I was told by the volunteer working the store, a retired architect, that they came from the local hospital cafeteria. This thing has to be 25 years old and has some history behind it. They had four donated and sold last week and four more had just come in. I got one for $15!. Two guys help me put it in my pickup. Once home I had to disassemble it before dragging the top, with wife's help, to my office on the second floor . Not an easy feat, since is super heavy and we aren't spring chickens any more. Today we assembled it and put it in place. Super sturdy, super happy with it!. I have attached a few pics. The setup still needs a lot of tweaking.
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A nice table with a very good surface! :-+ :-+ :-+
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Nice score. :-+
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Where I live, there is a Habitat For Humanity store and a Hospice thrift store within a quarter of a mile of each other. I check them both occasionally to see if anything interesting pops us. A few years ago, I scored an old teacher's desk complete, including both the slide out trays on each side, for $50. It holds my personal computer and ham radio gear. I hate moving it because it weighs a crap ton but I love the desk itself.
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A workbench is being born!
Your shelving looks a lot like the Rubbermaid system that HomeDepot sells. That's what I used when I rebuilt my lab last winter. It works great and is very sturdy. I've since added another set on the right side wall above the pegboard. I should post a more recent photo now that I'm mostly finished with it.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/need-inspiration-for-a-new-lab-table/?action=dlattach;attach=184721;image)
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A workbench is being born!
Your shelving looks a lot like the Rubbermaid system that HomeDepot sells. That's what I used when I rebuilt my lab last winter. It works great and is very sturdy. I've since added another set on the right side wall above the pegboard. I should post a more recent photo now that I'm mostly finished with it.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/need-inspiration-for-a-new-lab-table/?action=dlattach;attach=184721;image)
Very similar system. Actually it is John Sterling / Dual Track from Menards (no HD in town). The only difference is that there is an optional feature of the Dual Track, in addition to the verticals, there is a horizontal beam profile which is installed at the high end of the range of the verticals. Very easy to screw one end to a stud, then level it and screw one at the other end. Then go back and put screws in the rest of the studs. It comes drilled at stud distance (16"?). In my case I had to drill one new hole to accommodate a rogue stud. Once the beam profile in place, the verticals hook into it via notch and can be shifted left or right as desired; no need to be on a stud. For now I have not even secured the verticals to the wall. I will but put some screws when I have a better idea of where I want them (and I have to be careful about some pipes in the wall). See pic to better understand.
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Not strictly a bench pic but a few of my demos and a brand new SSA3032X for a fellow EEVblog member here in Auckland.
Delivered this arvo and checked out his bench 8) , updated the FW on his Siglent AWG while there and shared a Rum before leaving.
Thanks Rhys, enjoy your new spectrum analyser. ;)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=250751)
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I will indeed! Thanks for personally delivering the unit. Really looking forward to using it on some projects.
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I tidied up a little. Ignore all the stuff under the bench, thats where all my tidying got shoved.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4963246/20151208_023943.jpg)
I like it! what dimensions is this setup? bench depth, shelf depth and height of shelf off of the bench?
your setup looks perfect for the space I have!
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Here my workbench after some new upgrades .
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Here my workbench after some new upgrades .
Thanks for the pic. What's the PSU (?) on the right ?
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Here my workbench after some new upgrades .
Thanks for the pic. What's the PSU (?) on the right ?
Looks like a Rohde & Schwarz (Hameg).
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It's a Hameg (now R&S) HMC8012 bench meter. :-+
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Here my workbench after some new upgrades .
Thanks for the pic. What's the PSU (?) on the right ?
PSU with test leads? Spark generator? Death wands?
Nice one. Didn't see those on my iPad screen.
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Bad workflow . I changed the position again :-DD
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All this workbench P0rn, I am going to have to re-model my bench....
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Here my workbench after some new upgrades .
Thanks for the pic. What's the PSU (?) on the right ?
PSU with test leads? Spark generator? Death wands?
Or quick way to apply a test current to an SMT shunt (as long as you can hold both probes in one hand so you can turn the current up with the other).
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All this workbench P0rn, I am going to have to re-model my bench....
IIRC, didn't you have some more cool gear inbound, too? All good reasons for a remodel. :-+
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I tidied up a little. Ignore all the stuff under the bench, thats where all my tidying got shoved.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4963246/20151208_023943.jpg)
and the other area, where the bigger machinery lives.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4963246/will%20workshop/workshop1resize.jpg)
What microscope is that ? Do you like it ? Do you use it where it is or move it to the right side ?
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It's a Hameg (now R&S) HMC8012 bench meter. :-+
Looked it up. Nice.
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What microscope is that ?
It appears to be an Amscope (http://www.amscope.com/) trinocular of some sort* (or other brand name on the same scope).
* They also offer what they call a Simul-Focal, which means you don't have to switch between the stereo view or the camera view as you do with the standard trinocular versions (and no need to re-focus as you switch between views as you would with the non-Simul-Focal versions). ;) Much better to have if you have the additional funds to acquire one. 8)
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Long time I deal with small place and now it's time to upgrade :)
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Long time I deal with small place and now it's time to upgrade :)
Nice setup. :-+
I noticed that Jokari wire stripper in particular (I've one in black). :-DD
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Here is my workspace after some cleaning. This is not your conventional workspace.
I am still building my power supply, so it's not there...
There is a 4x2 HDMI switch so I can run 3 PC outputs and 1 TV output, or 4 PC outputs, or whatever...
The K197 has a busted LCD display. I'm still trying to figure out an economical way to fix that.
The power strip is connected to to a 400VA isolation transformer.
The Rigol 1054z, the MHS-5200A function generator, the K197, and the Hakko 888 are all connected to a different isolation transformer.
The computer, the monitors, the HDMI switch, and the network switch are all connected to a UPS.
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Oops, almost forgot.
I salvaged some fishing rod holders as wire/connector holders.
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I salvaged some fishing rod holders as wire/connector holders.
That's a great idea. :-+
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in the middle of three projects so some cleaning is needed as the room is way too small
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Long time I deal with small place and now it's time to upgrade :)
Wow, you have quite a bit of gear! Nice setup !
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Long time I deal with small place and now it's time to upgrade :)
Wow, you have quite a bit of gear! Nice setup !
Thx 8)
Few of gears are still outside but now I should go to business trip to Germany.
I will finish lab setup when I will be back. Also ergonomy of this setup is in tuning process.
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I moved out of a closet and into a corner of the bedroom last winter. You can see the empty shelves here. (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg1004235/#msg1004235) I immediately messed it up with a project, and it has been that way all year. This week I decided to straighten up the mess and take some pictures.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=254275;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=254277;image)
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Very nice pics. And now you can restore the mess. ;D
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I like the wall of tools and leads! Very nice!
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The peg board is pretty nice. A couple more pictures are here (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/stand-for-screwdriver-pliers-cutters/msg462851/#msg462851).
All tools within easy reach but out of the way. It was a little expensive but I don't regret buying it. It's plastic, so it doesn't shred and crumble like cheaper ones can.
The leads do take up a lot of space though. At the moment that's not a problem, but eventually I'll need something else for them.
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Long time I deal with small place and now it's time to upgrade :)
It looks like you have a DER 5000 handheld LCR meter and a Agilent 4263b bench LCR (unless it's a milliohm meter).
Which one do you prefer, and for what use-cases?
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working with the space i've got. Using a double sided bin cart for component storage but thinking i'll do better replacing the bins with mini drawers.
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah209/AJJurisich/DSCF0202_zpsmnattfoa.jpg)
Equipment:
Power: Rigol DP832
O-Scope: Rigol DS1054Z
Function generator: BK 4003A
Solder: Weller WES51
Hot Air: Aoyue 853A++ Pro
Multimeter: Fluke 87 (just 87, first gen. THANK YOU eBAY!)
my traning site has Aigilent 33250A generators and i've become super jealous of those right now.
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I love it. Bedside soldering! :-+
If you're young and single even better.. "Hey, wanna see my breadboard?" ;)
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lol i'll tell you what. You joke but women are all about the breadboard these days. Toss in some aromatic leaded solder and let the romance begin.
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lol i'll tell you what. You joke but women are all about the breadboard these days. Toss in some aromatic leaded solder and let the romance begin.
Not to mention the possibilities that dremmel tool might present... :o
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Just finished off some things so this is mostly complete at this point.
In the FG I have a 2' x 4' plywood table finished with polyurethane and in addition I have a sacrificial work surface of 24" x 16" x 0.25" MDF that has a rubberized bottom glued to it so the board doesn't mar the table or slide around. I use the sacrificial board for dirty work like soldering. When it gets too dirty I just take a sander to it and ... new surface.
Above and out of the FOV is a home made LED work light made from three 750mm strips of LED lighting in the 4000-4500K range. Picked up a cheap $5 replacement laptop power adapter (90W) that outputs 19VDC and in the box in the lower right side with the blue number 10.4 on it I have a small buck converter to power the LED's.
The 858B Hot Air Gun above it has the cradle remoted so the gun isn't in my rack while on and to make it easier to reach and make use of. Someone mentioned the the cradle needs to be grounded, but the exterior of the cradle is plastic so how is the ground supposed to do anything?
Many of my cables and accessories are stored in clear plastic tubs from Sistema -- the "Klip It" line of storage boxes. Really nice boxes. Parts storage above is in two kinds of Acro-Mills cabinets. The MDF pigeon hole rack was designed and made by me to fit around the test equipment and provide storage holes for the cables and such I have stored in those Sistema boxes.
Brian
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[...] The MDF pigeon hole rack was designed and made by me to fit around the test equipment and provide storage holes for the cables and such I have stored in those Sistema boxes.[...]
Great! :-+ :-+ :-+
AFAIK in the cradle is a magnet worked in to shut off the hotair-gun.
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[...] The MDF pigeon hole rack was designed and made by me to fit around the test equipment and provide storage holes for the cables and such I have stored in those Sistema boxes.[...]
Great! :-+ :-+ :-+
AFAIK in the cradle is a magnet worked in to shut off the hotair-gun.
Yes, there's a magnet in the cradle to pick the reed switch to put the gun into sleep mode, but there was a comment about the need to ground the cradle but that seems odd given the fact that the outer housing is plastic.
Brian
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[...] The MDF pigeon hole rack was designed and made by me to fit around the test equipment and provide storage holes for the cables and such I have stored in those Sistema boxes.[...]
Great! :-+ :-+ :-+
AFAIK in the cradle is a magnet worked in to shut off the hotair-gun.
Yes, there's a magnet in the cradle to pick the reed switch to put the gun into sleep mode, but there was a comment about the need to ground the cradle but that seems odd given the fact that the outer housing is plastic.
Brian
I like your cubby-hole arrangement but I would be concerned that the power supplies get too hot in its confines.
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Long time I deal with small place and now it's time to upgrade :)
It looks like you have a DER 5000 handheld LCR meter and a Agilent 4263b bench LCR (unless it's a milliohm meter).
Which one do you prefer, and for what use-cases?
DER is good handheld for common usage like checking capacitors during repairing and so , Agilent is much precise and best for measurement of components which I plan to use in filters , oscillators and so where is precision and also other parameters of inductors or capacitors very important.
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some scopes there :)
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some scopes there :)
Always a pleasure to see your scopes.
And they are probably all working.
Do you have enough power coming in to your house to power them all at once?
some Multimeters there :)
(Just fixed one without effort)
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Just finished off some things so this is mostly complete at this point.
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Brian
Nice setup Brian! any more pictures from further out, curious on the attachment of the table and your diy lights.
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some scopes there :)
Everytime i see a gathering of some older tech like that i just can't get over all the knobs! I just want to touch all the knobs! I mean, who doesn't? Right!?
Always a pleasure to see your scopes.
And they are probably all working.
Do you have enough power coming in to your house to power them all at once?
some Multimeters there :)
(Just fixed one without effort)
I know i haven't seen enough labs to judge but holy meters batman. You're an Agilent investor aren't you?
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some Multimeters there :)
(Just fixed one without effort)
I know i haven't seen enough labs to judge but holy meters batman. You're an Agilent investor aren't you?
You have to see his entire collection, CoffinDodger! :-DMM
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[...] The MDF pigeon hole rack was designed and made by me to fit around the test equipment and provide storage holes for the cables and such I have stored in those Sistema boxes.[...]
Great! :-+ :-+ :-+
AFAIK in the cradle is a magnet worked in to shut off the hotair-gun.
Yes, there's a magnet in the cradle to pick the reed switch to put the gun into sleep mode, but there was a comment about the need to ground the cradle but that seems odd given the fact that the outer housing is plastic.
Brian
I like your cubby-hole arrangement but I would be concerned that the power supplies get too hot in its confines.
Not a problem, as I detail in the video about it the bumpers on the PS prevent you from pushing it too close to a vertical surface and starving the unit for cooling air. The DP832 is longer than my wooden rack and extends a few inches past it. All the equipment have fans at the back except the DS1054Z scope and with good clearance on the sides and the back being 100% open there is no problem. Even the shelf they sit on is perforated and the metal rack is even more open. The Tekpower PS on the right is spaced away from the function generator by the same bumper arrangements and is also located by a locking board glued to the top of the shelf it sits on. It is locked in place to prevent slippage and to maintain necessary clearances.
The part of the system I like best is the Sistema Klip It boxes I use for my cables, leads, probes and adapters -- keeps them organized and helps to prevent tangling. Again, the video shows that off pretty well.
Brian
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Just finished off some things so this is mostly complete at this point.
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Brian
Nice setup Brian! any more pictures from further out, curious on the attachment of the table and your diy lights.
See pics...
The table has two front legs inset a few inches and hooked over a rack shelf at the back to help to locate it properly. I've tested for stability and there's no problem -- I've sat on the desk and all is well. When I need to access the lower shelves for my telescope stiff I can unhook the table and lift it out of the way in a few seconds.
The DIY LED light is made up of three strips of LED lights 750mm long. Just above the top of the table in the right corner is the control box with a blue LED display showing the voltage output from the buck converter inside that drives the LED's. The primary power comes from a $6 replacement laptop power supply rated at 90W and 19V but the most power I pull from it is half that and typically a quarter of that. Inside the box the power is controlled by a front panel switch then it goes to the buck converter that's rated at 150W. I modified the buck converter to add the external potentiometer to the outside for voltage output control. Voltage output ranges from 6.1V to 12.5V at the output and with the voltage drop the max at the LED's is 12.2V -- and again, I seldom run much above 11V and that's where it is in the pictures.
Living in an apartment means I can't build large built in racks that are nailed/screwed to the walls or floor -- I have to make do with the space I have.
Brian
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And another picture from old VHS covers, which I use for probes.
What a great idea! :-+ Just started hunting around amongst my friends for some.
Yours Messtechniker
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I'd bet noone wants to see what mess I have in my room atm, with bits and pieces of random gear everywhere :palm:.
Too much airports and travels lately :).
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See pics...
Nice! Thanks for the other pics.
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See pics...
Nice! Thanks for the other pics.
Thanks,
The entire metal rack is just 4 foot wide and my wooden rack inside that is 45 inches wide outside dimension and 16.5 inches tall and 11.75 inches deep. As I mentioned the Rigol DP832 is deeper than my rack and extends a few inches beyond it. I tried to balance the weight left/right and front/back as best I could for stability -- you don't want a hundred or more pounds of expensive equipment falling on you.
Being space constrained has it's problems, but then again with this setup everything is within arms reach while seated. The DIY LED overhead light provides great lighting that's even across the whole table and it illuminates the Acro-Mils cabinets sufficiently to read the labels as well as illuminate the instruments so all buttons and knobs are easy to see and read.
If I had a lot more space I think I'd still have a workbench more-or-less like this for the majority of my test equipment and use the other space to layout and build stuff. I might separate the soldering stuff to, but until I need to add more components the space is sufficient and laid out in the most workable way for me.
It is pretty amazing just how much stuff some guys have and the poster boy for that has to be "Mr Carlsons Lab" -- there has to be a quarter million in gear in there and I'm pretty sure I'm being conservative with that guess.
Brian
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I'd bet noone wants to see what mess I have in my room atm, with bits and pieces of random gear everywhere :palm:.
Too much airports and travels lately :).
Yeah, we still wanna see...
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I'd bet noone wants to see what mess I have in my room atm, with bits and pieces of random gear everywhere :palm:.
Too much airports and travels lately :).
Yeah, we still wanna see...
Yes we do.
With all due respect to those with neat and tidy test equipment display cases, it's the messy workbenches that are the most interesting - IMHO of course...
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Okay, I warned you :)
Wasted spent last night calibrating/testing 2001s.
(https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/mess1_1.jpg) (https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/mess1.jpg) (https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/mess2_1.jpg) (https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/mess2.jpg)
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Okay, I warned you :)
Wasted spent last night calibrating/testing 2001s.
Always really nice to see your lab benches and the many high end instruments with special screen information.
Just great!
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Okay, I warned you :)
Wasted spent last night calibrating/testing 2001s.
(https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/mess1_1.jpg) (https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/mess1.jpg) (https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/mess2_1.jpg) (https://doc.xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/mess2.jpg)
Looks like you're having good fun there, TiN. :-+
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Okay, I warned you :)
I thought it was going to be a lot worse than that. :-//
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Always a pleasure to see your scopes.
And they are probably all working.
Do you have enough power coming in to your house to power them all at once?
this would be impossible.
greetings
Martin
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A portion of my lab.
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Well that's a very nice portion !
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Hey Jester, I like those two little spotlights. Where did you find them?
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It looks like you have an old SHARP BASIC calculator laying there, or is it a CASIO?
I have one of these always around in the lab.
Nice setup
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Hey Jester, I like those two little spotlights. Where did you find them?
IKEA "Jansjö"
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Nice stuff. There are some good looking labs here. :-+ :-+
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Why have a big lab when you can just have this?
(http://www.hometrainingtools.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/E/L/EL-LAB130N.jpg)
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I started with something like this, and it was a fantastic trainer from Radio Shack. The KILLER shortcoming was the poor quality of the accompanying lab book. Convoluted schematics, repetitious examples, and hazy explanations didn't do justice to the possibilities. Imagine they had packaged this with Forrest Mims books and examples!
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Which Radio Shack one did you have? I had several, and the books WERE all clear and concise, often with both pictorials as well as schematics to make it easy to hook up. And a theory of operation. I had the 100 in one in the wooden case, and the 150 in one in the wooden case. I was beyond that level by the time the 200 in one in the plastic case came out, so no idea on that one. But the manuals on the ones I had WERE written by Forrest Mims.
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I had, and still have the 150-in-1 kit, in the wooden box. The manual was not written by Forrest Mims, so you must have had a different edition. The manual I have has 150 different wiring diagrams and schematics, but neither they, nor the notes, make it clear what's going on. It's really too bad, because a trainer like this could be the best way to learn!
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Why have a big lab when you can just have this?
(http://www.hometrainingtools.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/E/L/EL-LAB130N.jpg)
I still remember mine. The guide book had 131 circuit diagrams on mine and I came up with a few circuits myself too.
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Excuse the missing transistor, it may have failed somehow :-//
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=260860;image)
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I had this one...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fe/7a/6b/fe7a6b9a68eecb42f482ea81f77487e1.jpg)
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I bought a (cheap) power supply, up until this point I was making do with a 12V supply from a HP server that I used to power my LiPo Chargers, but recent projects needed a little more control.
A new supply meant a new shelf... Quite like my setup now :D - Great for tinkering and repairing things.
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Hey Jester, I like those two little spotlights. Where did you find them?
IKEA "Jansjö"
Look at officeworks (if you have it where you are), they have a similar LED lamp but it has 3 times the Lumens and is a bit whiter. cost is about $20.
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Hey Jester, I like those two little spotlights. Where did you find them?
IKEA "Jansjö"
Thank you, I acquired two. They're only $9.99 USD and put out a really nice spot of light! Highly recommended, two thumbs up :-+ :-+
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I bought a (cheap) power supply, up until this point I was making do with a 12V supply from a HP server that I used to power my LiPo Chargers, but recent projects needed a little more control.
A new supply meant a new shelf... Quite like my setup now :D - Great for tinkering and repairing things.
very nice smoke vent. Few people have that in a home lab
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very nice smoke vent. Few people have that in a home lab
Oh, I thought that was the exhaust of the wash dryer used to preheat pcb's :)
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very nice smoke vent. Few people have that in a home lab
Ah yes, my bodged together extraction system! Simply a very powerful (and very noisy) CPU fan with integrated duct on the end of some dryer hose :p
I found out pretty quickly that with my face 6 inches from the PCB, pushing an 0402 LED into place, I was inhaling far too much of the fumes despite slowly breathing out while soldering. This thing does a fantastic job, able to pull the (visible) smoke from the tip of the iron even at great distances. Can't even smell it.
Unfortunately it also has a tendency to "extract" the 0402 component itself if placed too close :-DD
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very nice smoke vent. Few people have that in a home lab
Ah yes, my bodged together extraction system! Simply a very powerful (and very noisy) CPU fan with integrated duct on the end of some dryer hose :p
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Unfortunately it also has a tendency to "extract" the 0402 component itself if placed too close :-DD
+1 on the home made fume extractor. If it's too powerful, add a potentiometer so you can drop the voltage when working on small components. Otherwise, you might need more parts inventory. :D
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Unfortunately it also has a tendency to "extract" the 0402 component itself if placed too close :-DD
Haha nice job. That was the first thing that caught my eye too!
For myself I use an IQAir HealthPro 250 right next to my bench where I solder.
Kinda costly but I did purchase it about three years ago and it runs 12 hours a day on a timer in my study anyhow so that I come home to nice clean air.
I usually prefer not to have anything which causes to much air circulation since it can be pretty hot where I live.
Part of the problem living right next to the equator >,<"...
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I finally finished the setup of my home lab with all intended ideas for a while. Technically I have my lab+office+workshop in the kitchen. ;D
It can be seen:
1.) EE-related bench overview from a distance. There is a Markus from IKEA. Quite comfortable chair. There is a shelf with assorted parts and various junk on the left.
2.) EE-related bench close. Does it need some explanatory ? There can be seen a shelf on the right with photo centrum, solder centrum, charging centrum, various junk centrum.
3.) LED lighting ON. Therefore quite unbalanced photo.
4.) LED lighting close.
5.) LED lighting detail.
6.) Reloading press bench.
7.) Woodworks and other dirt/dust-related works bench. Most of the time used by my GF with her textbooks.
8.) A lot of dogs and cats were shown in this topic. Nobody have fluffy cuddly rats ?
There is quite a lot of junk and mess all around the place, but it I don't really care about it while I maintain clear overview of my property. :D
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My humble desk where I learn.
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My humble desk where I learn.
Looks good. You have the essentials: scope, DMM, coffee warmer. ;D
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My humble desk where I learn.
Wished my life looked so simple :-DD :-DD :-DD People tell me I need to see a doctor. If I do, I will say your setup is mine so he does not lock me up.
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My humble desk where I learn.
Looks good. You have the essentials: scope, DMM, coffee warmer. ;D
Hmm... Blank PCBs but no soldering iron, something is wrong there...
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Hmm... Blank PCBs but no soldering iron, something is wrong there...
Whe I published a view to my working bench, I shortly had the idea, to clean it up before. But I refused.
It was quite clean once, I just had build it.
Now it shows the real life. :-//
But still far away from famous Jim's. :phew:
(http://)
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Well, this looks quite messy. But it is a very nice mess. :-+
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My humble desk where I learn.
Looks good. You have the essentials: scope, DMM, coffee warmer. ;D
Hmm... Blank PCBs but no soldering iron, something is wrong there...
I reflow and solder in the kitchen under the hood vent. :-+ I try to keep the heat away from my walnut desk. I had a tanatalum cap incident a while back that left small black divots in it.
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I do not think I have posted to this thread before so I would like to add my YouTube link to my lab tour.
https://youtu.be/cgLyX4cN9nQ (https://youtu.be/cgLyX4cN9nQ)
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I do not think I have posted to this thread before so I would like to add my YouTube link to my lab tour.
https://youtu.be/cgLyX4cN9nQ (https://youtu.be/cgLyX4cN9nQ)
Snap-On chair? whoa where did you get those :o
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I do not think I have posted to this thread before so I would like to add my YouTube link to my lab tour.
Damn nice setup, I have some of the same test equipment here also. I'm also a ham. :clap:
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Still my EE/CS combo bench but this time I have a mess of debug probes in a semi-permanent installation.
(https://en.maxchan.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DSCN0061.jpg)
And here is a closeup of the probes
(https://en.maxchan.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/DSCN0060.jpg)
Either Windows 10 or Intel have bugs in handling more than a few USB devices off a hierarchy of USB hubs.
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I do not think I have posted to this thread before so I would like to add my YouTube link to my lab tour.
Snap-On chair? whoa where did you get those :o
Snap-on "branded" chair.
Those are typically made by Alltrade, a Californian company with manufacturing capabilities in Asia.
These Snap-on "branded" chairs were sold by Costco a few years ago.
There is no chair on the Alltrade website at the moment http://www.alltradetools.com/catalog/5_snap-onr- (http://www.alltradetools.com/catalog/5_snap-onr-)
But is also possible that these chairs were only available through Costco. I bought several Snap-on branded, made by Alltrade, LED Worklight at Costco a few weeks ago, and this is not on the Alltrade website either.
:)
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Here's my home electronics lab. Space was at a premium, so I set it up in the closet of a spare bedroom that is otherwise being used as an exercise room. Most of the equipment is pretty ancient, except for the digital scope and the LCR meter. Next equipment acquisition will hopefully be a new Hakko soldering iron to replace the dying Weller, which itself was originally a dumpster dive acquisition.
Over the summer, I used the lab to introduce my college-bound nephew to electronics. His final summer project, which he chose on his own, was to design and build an AM radio using discrete transistors (no ICs). He was quite proud when he finally got it working (and so was I).
Equipment:
* Rigol 1052E 50 MHz Digital Oscilloscope
* Hitachi V-1065 100 MHz Analog Oscilloscope
* Wavetek 148A 20 MHz Function Generator
* HP 5315B Frequency Counter
* Topward TPS-4000 Triple-Output Power Supply
* DIY Two-Output Power Supply
* Fluke 8025B Multimeter
* DER EE DE-5000 LCR Meter
* Weller Fixed-Temperature Soldering Iron
The storage drawers above contain various resistors, capacitors, inductors, transistors, diodes, digital and analog ICs, sensors, servos, Arduinos, Raspberry PIs, etc. that I've collected over the years.
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I do not think I have posted to this thread before so I would like to add my YouTube link to my lab tour.
https://youtu.be/cgLyX4cN9nQ (https://youtu.be/cgLyX4cN9nQ)
I have two of those Harbor Freight narrow tool cabinets under one of my electronics benches as well. They're great for the money!
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Coming soon......
New 400ft2 (37m2) lab / assembly room. Was once a garage, but I am finishing it with insulation, drywall, climate control, anti-static epoxy floor, lots of lighting, etc.
The pick and place machine is sitting on my back porch, strange sight. This workbench is a dream come true.
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Still my EE/CS combo bench but this time I have a mess of debug probes in a semi-permanent installation.
And here is a closeup of the probes
Either Windows 10 or Intel have bugs in handling more than a few USB devices off a hierarchy of USB hubs.
Its windows. Intel hardware with a decent OS handles USB fine.
What is the clear thing on top of the pickit
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OK, I'll bite. Here are a couple of shots of my space. We lately moved into this house and I was able to negotiate this room as my "workroom" as we call it. A couple of owners ago it used to be an attached garage then was renovated to convert it into a living room. It never had very good insulation so can get quite cold in the winter. The next owner converted it into piano studio and added a gas fireplace (!) I wonder how many guys like us can say they have a fireplace beside their bench but it can warm the place very well on a very cold day in Canada after about an hour.
The first shot is taken standing on the steps up to the kitchen and main house. I am still trying to sell the drafting board as I don't use it for much anymore except to put it as level as it can go and spread parts/drawings out on it. The lovely old Nestler drafting machine is gone as I sold to someone in Tucson last year. Under it are a Tek 535 scope which doesn't work (but probably could be fixed), a HP single-pen chart recorder that I still (after 34 years) have supplies for, and a small B&W NTSC picture monitor. On the mantel is a W German tube radio, a Loewe Opta which doesn't work and beside it an Eddystone 750 which does very well. To the right of the FP are several cabinets of drawers with almost every 1/4W 5% value in the E24 set from 1R0 to 10M, many 2W 5% and some higher power resistors. Also about 30 drawers of trimmer pots and almost as many values of panel-mounted pots. Unseen on the floor beside the FP is a HP 141T spectrum an for up to 1.3 GHz.
In the next shot is my electronic bench showing my working Tek 547 on its dolly, the lab PC (now replaced with a laptop). I designed and built the bench a few years ago so that the "bridge" shelf could hold a significant load. The best thing I ever did was make sure there were plenty (20 total) of outlets on it. Going from L-R on the bench are a HP 1741 analog storage scope (REAL HP!), an HP bench supply with what was a Heathkit function generator on top. The innards of the Heathkit have been completely replaced with a home brew circuit for sine/sq/triangle and noise generation. Next is a Sony speaker for audio testing, a Tek 465 then Weller soldering station. The bench is covered with a grounded static mat. I have two of these as I used to have two identical benches but had to leave one behind in the old house. I couldn't figger out how to fit both of them into this space so left one behind in the old house at the behest of the shyster who bought it (thats another story). I like the stool very much since it has a long vertical travel so I can adjust it for taller or shorter benches. Hanging from the front edge of the bench is a great hot air gun with nozzle attachments I got at Princess Auto for CAD$15. On top of the bridge are a Tek 5103N analog scope with plugins that allow vertical sensitivity from 20 V/cm right down to 10 uV/cm and ability to apply DC offset and various HF and LF filters. Also great for analog debug/characterization. Next is a Grundig comm receiver Satelite 800 that I use to listen to good ole boys on 80m. It has a cheap Fluke 1910 counter with terrible calibration however I lately built a WWV receiver with built-in ovenized 10 MHz oscillator that I use as reference for the counter. As display the box has a single LED which displays the difference frequency between the two and will settle down to within 1 Hz in about an hour so I can trust the counter now. A lot of my projects are made for $0 from stuff on hand so that's why I didn't go the GPS-disciplined route. :P Beside that are stacked an HP 3580A spectrum an. fpr 0Hz - 50 Khz, an HP 8112 50 MHz pulse generator. To the right of the bench is a Tek 7904 that I have with 6 plug-ins (gotta love cranking the sweep right out to 0.5 nSec/cm just cause I can). The two drawer units seen in this shot are standard kitchen drawers with a peice of MDF screwed on top and painted. A home-built tube-based bench power supply, a Tek logic analyzer, some vintage scopes, a ginormous isolation transformer, etc sit underneath. Right at the bottom of the shot you just might be able to make out the cover of Jim Williams book The Art And Science of Analog Circuit Design.
The third shot shows the other (mechanical) bench I built about 26 years ago, as seen from the first bench. We have various woodworking tools here including the small drill press, a swivelable (no matter how I spell that the red underline won't go away) bench vise small tools on the peg board and lots of screw drivers. This bench used to be 8 feet long and no matter how I arranged the room it didn't fit so well. So I put hinges on the right two feet and folded it up. When its up the screwdrivers are a hazard to traffic near the outside door and when its down no traffic is possible but it accomplishes what I wanted which was access to the door and wall near it where fasteners are and as well eight feet of bench when I needed it. Under the bench on a wheeled platform are a chop saw, scroll saw, bench grinder, palm sander, jig saw, tile cutter, Dremel, etc. In the two small drawers are drill bits, files, etc. The carpenters vise on the front is practically useless but maybe if I make wooden jaws flush with the top for it it may be useful. To the side is a small table saw the makes a bloody racket when used and really makes the air cleaner earn its keep.
Standing at the mech bench and facing left show us the fourth shot. We see my drum kit (doesn't everybody have a drum kit?) the stereo system my chalkboard for To-Do lists and sometimes for quick idea illustrations. To its left is the old dentists cabinet filled with parts (ICs, switches, heat sinks, connectors, small proj boxes, wire, relays, glory box, etc). Above in drawers are caps, HV caps, inductors, crystals and oscillators, LEDs heat shrink and mist small mech bits. The door leads to a small room that uses up the rest of the old garage floor space where other misc storage is for bigger glory boxes, wood pieces, some more test gear (home-built tube curve tracer, etc)
This doesn't include my office space where my library and PC which I used to write this is.
I always have about 6 projects going on at any time from custom guitar-related builds to antique radio restoration or some gizmo for myself. If there seems to be a lot of HP stuff here, take my word for it that I didn't plan it that way, its just the way the smokin' deals came through. Anyway I like older technology and everything here still works (except for the Loewe Opta).
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Cool pics, basinstreetdesign. It's been ages since I last used a drafting machine.
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Pillar drill, drum kit, vice. Everything a real man needs!
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Is this green surface a digitizer? But where's the monitor? Does it also function as a monitor? Wow!!! :-+
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<sigh> I feel old now.
The green surface is called a draughting table (a.k.a. drafting table) and it's what they used before computers came along. A big sheet of paper is fixed to the flat surface using clips and then the moveable arm provides a perfect right angle when drawing diagrams on the paper using a nice sharp pencil. Want a 30 degree, 45 degree or 60 degree angle? either you can use a fixed triangle or rotate the two arms until you get the angle you need. Battleships and ocean liners were drawn this way and so were smaller items from the original Mini to other design classics.
Here's the tools in action:
http://www.lathes.co.uk/dsgfactory001/img5.jpg (http://www.lathes.co.uk/dsgfactory001/img5.jpg)
http://www.westwoodworks.net/HowItWas/TheDrawingOffice/images/1961DrawingOfficec.jpg (http://www.westwoodworks.net/HowItWas/TheDrawingOffice/images/1961DrawingOfficec.jpg)
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Keep the drafting table. even if all you do is put a pad of folio paper on it and a pencil, to make notes on. The chair is right for use as a draughtmans chair, and you will find it useful to sketch out many things there, or even to use as a sketch pad. Even if all you use it for is as a place to put a newspaper it will serve, plus as it is a large level surface and is matt it makes a great way to photograph anything you care to put on it. That you have to have a ladder to get the right angle is a small inconvenience for being able to use it.
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Shame, I don't think they teach that in school any more. When I was in 7th grade, it was a requirement, boys and girls, to do a complete rotation through drafting, print shop, wood shop, metal shop, cooking, and sewing (yes, I may actually be able to sew something without attaching my finger to the fabric). I loved mechanical drawing, it was drawing I could actually do - my freehand drawing looks like a 5 year old's. After that it was all option but in 8terh and 9th grades bot I took shop, you didn't get to pick just one, it was a rotation again, 25% each on mechanical drawing, print shop, wood shop, and metal shop. Once I hit high school in 10th grade you could pick just one shop and as that was pretty much the last year I had available class time I took wood shop, despite being one of those geeky nerd kids who liked electronics and computers, I also like to build things. Still use the nightstand I built 35 years ago. My Mom used it up until she passed last year and it was one of the things I claimed and now it's alongside my bed. Had I the space and money for even more hobbies (not to mention time) I would have a well-equipped wood shop. My woodworking these days is more crude - 2x4 frame for my electronics bench I posted a few pages back, framework for my model railroad. No nice finished furniture any more, and I don't really have the tools for it.
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I wonder how many guys like us can say they have a fireplace beside their bench but it can warm the place very well on a very cold day in Canada after about an hour.
I can! And I use it too. It was hard to find a space to fit in my fairly small electronics lab, and I have to keep sheet metal heat shields between it and nearby stuff, but it works extremely well in winter. Zero cost heating, since my property has enough trees that I'm not short of firewood. Old hardwood fences and stuff provide variety.
That's a nice workshop BSD. I too think you should keep the drafting table. I have one in my study, and an even better one that I'll inherit eventually. Definitely keeping them. As Sean says, they make a useful surface, plus on the rare occasions when you may need to do a real drawing, there's no alternative. Unless you have a pen plotter about the same size anyway, and can remember how to use whatever CAD program you used 20 years ago (if it even runs on a current OS.)
Heck, for historical reasons I even keep a small drafting board and wooden T-squares. How many here remember those?
I like the chalk board above the stairs. Hmm, how many times have I had a good idea while on the stairs, and forgot to jot it down? And why is that when you have a novel idea, then forget it, there seems to be some kind of interlock that almost always prevents it from popping up again?
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(http://puu.sh/s9kef/0638f1e69b.jpg)
Loving the reflow oven!
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Shame, I don't think they teach that in school any more. When I was in 7th grade, it was a requirement, boys and girls, to do a complete rotation through drafting, print shop, wood shop, metal shop, cooking, and sewing (yes, I may actually be able to sew something without attaching my finger to the fabric). I loved mechanical drawing, it was drawing I could actually do - my freehand drawing looks like a 5 year old's. After that it was all option but in 8terh and 9th grades bot I took shop, you didn't get to pick just one, it was a rotation again, 25% each on mechanical drawing, print shop, wood shop, and metal shop. Once I hit high school in 10th grade you could pick just one shop and as that was pretty much the last year I had available class time I took wood shop, despite being one of those geeky nerd kids who liked electronics and computers, I also like to build things. Still use the nightstand I built 35 years ago. My Mom used it up until she passed last year and it was one of the things I claimed and now it's alongside my bed. Had I the space and money for even more hobbies (not to mention time) I would have a well-equipped wood shop. My woodworking these days is more crude - 2x4 frame for my electronics bench I posted a few pages back, framework for my model railroad. No nice finished furniture any more, and I don't really have the tools for it.
A year ago (9th grade) at a new school we where using crappy cheap ass drafting machine in a "Technical sketch" class. Fortunately I had to choose between learning 1 "major" (not sure if major is the correct word), and I choose "electricity and control systems" so no more drafting machine.
So they teach you to use those for 1 grade basically.. useless things today, because there is autocad.
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I took draughting in grade 11 at Ottawa Tech. My "major" was electronics and then they really taught us how tube radios and TVs worked.
But just because Autocad exists does not invalidate the science involved with technical drawing at all. Most of the value in technical drawing, especially mechanical drawing is in how to construct a projected view or a section view of the object, how to organize a drawing or annotate it properly with dimensions, tolerances, etc. Could Autocad automatically draw a spring? As far as electronic schematics go I've seen some practically unreadable ones done with high-priced computer packages that would probably have been thrown, flaming, into the G-bin at any company worth their salt even a couple of decades ago. Looking at some stuff that comes out of some electronic product companies, its easy to tell from the style of the schematic what its culture may be when its obvious that the drawing was made for the single purpose of generating a netlist for the PCB layout guy, then "throwing the problem over the wall to him" rather than producing a good piece of documentation which will serve many interests in the manufacturing organization. These days it seems that most young engineers just dont understand the point to good drawing style because nobody is teaching them. (/rant)
The draughting machine in the picture was an old Nestler from the '60s and was perfectly balanced up/down, left/right and had only a couple of ounces force on the surface. Just a little push would send it gliding across the board.
I must admit something. I sold it to a collector in Tucson, AZ. I asked $300 and I got $300. Only I was thinking CAD$300 and he sent USF$300. I never corrected him but we were both happy with the deal. I still feel a little guilty. Did I do wrong?
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(http://puu.sh/s9kef/0638f1e69b.jpg)
Man I miss the wood burning stove in my old place. It's so relaxing to fall asleep to the roar of the fire, the snap, and crackle. $300USD of wood would last me an entire winter of heat. I would find that the stove would make the house a bit too dry, so I bought a cast iron kettle that would humidify the air.
The only thing better might be sleeping on a sail boat, and falling asleep to the sound of water slapping against the haul.
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The bench is a bit of a mess.
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Cute kitty! My only advice is to make sure you have a lid on any tub of paste solder flux. It attracts cat hair like a magnet!
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Reminds me some videos of 12voltsvids, cats, and... a big mess. But, hey, if you know where things are... ;)
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Yeah, I have a couple of them that like the bench and the rack of instruments, too. Dangling test leads are great fun to swat at and chew on as well. |O
-Pat
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If chewing is an issue, I have used a bitter compound that I used to stop my dog licking his wound, tastes terrible but I don't think is too nasty to either furry beast or plastics.
Rob
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Heck, for historical reasons I even keep a small drafting board and wooden T-squares. How many here remember those?
I used one in my school days - Tech Drawing as it was known back then. This was well before any computer that wasn't the size of a whole floor. :-DD.
Kept it for yeeeeeeears :palm: and finally decided I wasn't going to use it again and threw it out a few years ago.
It hasn't been a loss though as I haven't since thought 'I could have used that' a week after throwing it out (as usually happens when you clean out some stuff from the workshop |O).
I like the chalk board above the stairs. Hmm, how many times have I had a good idea while on the stairs, and forgot to jot it down? And why is that when you have a novel idea, then forget it, there seems to be some kind of interlock that almost always prevents it from popping up again?
A real bugger isn't it! The worst thing is you knew you had a good idea (or you know you put something in a safe place) but you can't remember what/where it is!!! :palm:
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Does the kitty do all your soldering? :D
Looks like she takes a lot of breaks....
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Typical cat... sleeping on the job. ::) :-DD
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The Brat (I mean 'lab cat') at work:
https://pmanning.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-7qj9NM9/A (https://pmanning.smugmug.com/Other/Miscellaneous/i-7qj9NM9/A)
-Pat
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Last cat joke, but since you mentionned the probes and the cats, they must be CAT III and CAT IV.
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At least I am enlightened right now what "CAT-Rating" really means...
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Like this :
(http://nsa38.casimages.com/img/2016/11/13/161113010350662954.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/i/161113010350662954.jpg.html)
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DVI output of an oscilloscope is really nice to have ^-^
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DVI output of an oscilloscope is really nice to have ^-^
Thanks looks indeed very nice!
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snip..
I bet once in a while, when you get mad, you toss circuits that don't want to work right into the hellfire. >:D
Here pig's lab in today's condition...
(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/piglab0_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/piglab0.jpg)
(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/piglab1_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/piglab1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/piglab2_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/piglab2.jpg)
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Are there Q-tips in the multimeter banana jacks ?
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Correct. It's secret metrology precision hack to keep wires not falling out of the jacks ^-^
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Poor CSA7404 chucked in the back. With such rat's nest of cables I would worry I'd short everything to everything and let the magic smoke out :)
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Correct. It's secret metrology precision hack to keep wires not falling out of the jacks ^-^
OK, I thought it was against some kind of humidity (but... the others had no q-tips). Thanks for solving that mystery. ;)
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Poor CSA7404 chucked in the back.
Just shows how often I power it on. You got me. :-[
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Correct. It's secret metrology precision hack to keep wires not falling out of the jacks ^-^
That's a damned clever idea!! :-+ :-+ Will have to add that to my bag of tricks!
-Pat
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Correct. It's secret metrology precision hack to keep wires not falling out of the jacks ^-^
That's a clever lab hack.
What's the story with the 10kOhm foam on the upside-down 3458A? If you flip it over, do you get -10kOhm or 1/10kOhm? :-DD
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Here pig's lab in today's condition...
Any particular reason why your HP 3458A is upside down? Won't the electrons fall out?
McBryce.
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What do you mean ? That is not upside down! The rest of the Lab is. ;D
Re Q tips, after a lot of cleaning (old Tek) I realised at age 54 that the two ends are wound in different directions, one is left hand the other right hand, you have to twist in opposite directions if you want to stop them unravelling! Don't ask me how many hundreds it took me to realise this. :palm:
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Correct. It's secret metrology precision hack to keep wires not falling out of the jacks ^-^
Sent into Hack-a-Day. Too clever not to share.
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Won't the electrons fall out?
Exactly to keep them in place, as magical ADC board is on bottom side.
Interested people about 3458 might want to stop-by this thread about that unit (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/repair-yes-another-little-3458a-repair-log/). Beware, and wear anti-voltnut mask while entering, or you can pick that virus too.
I'm just doing some testing and need access to ADC and AC boards. 17kg and size of these meters aren't very friendly to flip them very often.
Sent into Hack-a-Day. Too clever not to share.
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It's just as Qtips like you call them fit shrouded bananas perfectly, keeping wire inplace.
They are not metallic, so there is no additional thermal mass which could slowdown thermal equilibrium during microvolt-level precision measurements.
Also not abrasive, so they don't ruin connectors like the metal post would do.
Also they are cheap and easy to replace once become wasted.
But yea, that's another reason why I like binding posts on 3458A's, just so much easier to get good connection every time without jerking around cables. Before I got 3458 I was thinking "shrouded bananas! Great connector, nice and robust".
What's the story with the 10kOhm foam
Foam to reduce air drafts, which cause thermal EMFs :) There is resistor under foam.
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Sent into Hack-a-Day. Too clever not to share.
I wished I knew what was clever?
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Sent into Hack-a-Day. Too clever not to share.
I wished I knew what was clever?
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg1069983/#msg1069983 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg1069983/#msg1069983)
Peek in the images above.
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This is a new bench you built recently. I have a repair shop for electronic electronics, such as plasma TV, audio equipment, etc.
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb376/gasgas08/20161130_172356.jpg)
(http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb376/gasgas08/20161130_172430.jpg)
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^^ Lovely deep workbench - like it.
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More changes to the bench. As I've mentioned before when not working on a project the bench was occupied by my laptop. It was proving to be unworkable. Moving it every time I wanted to work on something was becoming a PITA. Plus if I wanted to access a document or search on line while working the laptop was unavailable. No more. The laptop has been permanently moved to a space previously occupied by a Linux PC. That PC has been moved to another desk.
Before....
Current....
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The new lab is coming together......
Before.....and after getting the room prepped.
Next phase, building benches, running cables, etc....
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It's looking good Carlos. :-+
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The new lab is coming together......
Before.....and after getting the room prepped.
Next phase, building benches, running cables, etc....
You forgot the electrical outlets! :(
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The new lab is coming together......
Before.....and after getting the room prepped.
Next phase, building benches, running cables, etc....
This will be interesting, especially seeing where the Keysight will end up.
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You forgot the electrical outlets! :(
All the cables are going into cable trays that are being installed in a ceiling grid. I have to be flexible distributing not only electricity, but also data, compressed air, vacuum. These trays are awesome and allow me to put anything anywhere without having to put cables on the floor or cut into walls.
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All the cables are going into cable trays that are being installed in a ceiling grid. I have to be flexible distributing not only electricity, but also data, compressed air, vacuum. These trays are awesome and allow me to put anything anywhere without having to put cables on the floor or cut into walls.
I never have seen them before - I like them
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You forgot the electrical outlets! :(
All the cables are going into cable trays that are being installed in a ceiling grid. I have to be flexible distributing not only electricity, but also data, compressed air, vacuum. These trays are awesome and allow me to put anything anywhere without having to put cables on the floor or cut into walls.
Too cool. Are these typically used in data centers? Where does one get them?
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Too cool. Are these typically used in data centers? Where does one get them?
Really anywhere there are cables or hoses. I have worked in a myriad of factories, data centers, and machine rooms. The concept is older than dirt. I got these from
http://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-trays/ (http://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-trays/)
https://youtu.be/LydLnMXnbj8 (https://youtu.be/LydLnMXnbj8)
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Too cool. Are these typically used in data centers? Where does one get them?
One source
https://www.amazon.com/Cablofil-CF105200EZ-Cable-Tray-Deep/dp/B00JV3HZZA/ref=sr_1_52?ie=UTF8&qid=1480708388&sr=8-52&keywords=cable+tray (https://www.amazon.com/Cablofil-CF105200EZ-Cable-Tray-Deep/dp/B00JV3HZZA/ref=sr_1_52?ie=UTF8&qid=1480708388&sr=8-52&keywords=cable+tray)
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You forgot the electrical outlets! :(
All the cables are going into cable trays that are being installed in a ceiling grid. I have to be flexible distributing not only electricity, but also data, compressed air, vacuum. These trays are awesome and allow me to put anything anywhere without having to put cables on the floor or cut into walls.
Too cool. Are these typically used in data centers? Where does one get them?
google rejiband, pretty much the standard in factories
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Too cool. Are these typically used in data centers? Where does one get them?
Google "power cable tray". ;)
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I did the same only under my workbench, using cheap plastic gutter. Just throw in the power strips and network and usb cables. :)
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I've got a garage I've converted to a woodshop and these look like a great way to run cables without conduit. Thanks all.
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I used a few offcuts as pigeon proofing in the roof drains, as I had a bit left over from doing some work with it. Works well to keep the debris from going down and blocking the pipes, though the flying rats often use it as a convenient nesting platform, using assorted drinking straws and twigs. Easy to clean though, I use a scrap wire length to lift it up and dump over the edge of the drain, clearing out the nest eggs and all.
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I have a convertible lab.. Or with other words, I am using our living room to the annoyance of my wife :o
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=275243)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=275245)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=275247)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=275249)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=275251)
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Sure that women acceptance factor may be low.
Same here... convertible lab (because of lack of space).
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Very interesting looking kart you have there.
I ran the World Karting association circuit for eight years. Four of the latter years I was the local WKA certified tech. Now just a closet full of trophies and 3 championships.
The wife hated when I used to bring stuff into the house.
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You stole my dogs. :-DD I too have a black and fawn pair of pugs. Neither interested in electronics, except perhaps to eat some of it. :-DD I have to carefully police anything that falls on the floor. The bench it too high for them to get into anything, thankfully.
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Sure that women acceptance factor may be low.
Same here... convertible lab (because of lack of space).
guess how low it was when I blew up this one here :o
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=275421)
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You stole my dogs. :-DD I too have a black and fawn pair of pugs. Neither interested in electronics, except perhaps to eat some of it. :-DD I have to carefully police anything that falls on the floor. The bench it too high for them to get into anything, thankfully.
I know what you mean, our dogs are also only interested in electronics if it helps them jumping onto the laid kitchen table by distracting their owners ;)
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Very interesting looking kart you have there.
I ran the World Karting association circuit for eight years. Four of the latter years I was the local WKA certified tech. Now just a closet full of trophies and 3 championships.
The wife hated when I used to bring stuff into the house.
it's only 3HP and limited to 30km/h but it was fun building it together with the kids. And of course the electronics stuff: 100V / 40A brushless motor drive with FOC, driving a motor that once was 48V / 15A rated 8)
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I am using our living room to the annoyance of my wife :o
live dangerously! :o
more of my lab, man space
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Nice one. Storage is what I lack in my spare room space. Does that panel with the black bins slide back and forth to allow access to the blue tubs on the shelves behind?
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I ran the World Karting association circuit for eight years. Four of the latter years I was the local WKA certified tech. Now just a closet full of trophies and 3 championships.
Awesome!
Great interests: karts and electronics. :-+
3 championships. :clap:
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I ran the World Karting association circuit for eight years. Four of the latter years I was the local WKA certified tech. Now just a closet full of trophies and 3 championships.
Oh wow! WKA President? Awesome - how long ago was that?
I started karting when I was 10 - back in the mid/late 80's. My father was an SCCA weekend racer - so it was just natural he put me in a kart. Loved it. If I recall correctly there was two origination. WKA and something like the "AKA?"
Would love to hear more for sure! That's outstanding!
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Not my workshop, but some may enjoy seeing this. The livingroom workshop of that Chinese maker-girl in Shenzhen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPmsi32m1nw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPmsi32m1nw)
I am seriously envious of her tools cabinet. Those things cost a fortune here, and I've never been able to afford one. Instead I use assorted old 3 and 4-drawer metal filing cabinets, that are all street-finds. And now I don't have room left for a flashy tools cabinet anyway.
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@ THz:
Do you guys not have an equivalent of Harbor Freight/Princess Auto/Canadian Tire, in Australlia.
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Do you guys not have an equivalent of Harbor Freight/Princess Auto/Canadian Tire, in Australia .
when it comes to tools. shipping weight can be a bit too high. also local bricks & mortar store's are too expensive .
many online au store's have little or no savings over local bricks & mortar . as 90% of tools sold, came from china anyway. :-//
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@ THz:
Do you guys not have an equivalent of Harbor Freight/Princess Auto/Canadian Tire, in Australlia.
A few, like Bunnings and Super Cheap Auto. And, ha ha, Total Tools, which always makes me laugh. If you have to ask...
As for pricing, an example: https://www.bunnings.com.au/trojan-680-x-460-x-1520mm-16-drawer-tool-chest-and-trolley_p6120306 (https://www.bunnings.com.au/trojan-680-x-460-x-1520mm-16-drawer-tool-chest-and-trolley_p6120306)
Au$570 just for a stack of drawers. I can't immediately find one online like that one in the video.
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Might be easier to get wooddorking tools and make a tookchest than to get one.
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Might be easier to get wooddorking tools and make a tookchest than to get one.
My woodworking skills are OK. Pic 1 is of the foyer of my workshop - the entire building that I built by myself (except brickwork. And I can bricklay, just not fast enough for the schedule at that time.) But the thing about those tool cabinets is the space efficiency (thin wall steel drawers), nice roller slides, and ruggedness. I've done wooden drawers with roller slides, they work nicely, but wood is only good for big drawers where the wood thickness isn't a significant space loss.
Anyway, file cabinets are OK. See 2nd & 3rd pics. It would just be nice to have some shallow drawers for hand tools. I have too many to keep them all on the pinboard, so the rest are loose in toolbags and chests. Hence lots of rummaging when i want something I didn't use recently so it sank to the bottom somewhere.
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THz, sounds to me like a good excuse to justify buying a kick shear and bending brake! >:D
(Of course they may be harder to find than a tool box...)
-Pat
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THz, sounds to me like a good excuse to justify buying a kick shear and bending brake! >:D
^-^ What, like this one? (scroll down to near the end)
http://everist.org/NobLog/20151012_spring_diversions.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20151012_spring_diversions.htm)
[Clarification: that's a different building to the one above that I built. This old garage is my mech-workshop. They are interconnected.]
But I still don't have a spot welder. And making a full cabinet like that just isn't worth it.
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I still have books from the 1980s. Not for sale
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Our small town library ordered the robot builders bonanza for me. They had so few 'customers' that they could pretty much order anything we requested. I checked it out over and over again.
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Here's my little workbench in my garage, it's in a nook that the original builder added to the design and one of the reasons we bought the house.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161221/322a15aba7b801348d64c22ef929a856.jpg)
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161221/bc2fdce5e281a105f438199156becd62.jpg)
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Here's a couple I took of my collection.
Electronics bench material storage and tools https://imgur.com/gallery/Vt3eY
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I moved house in July, and this is now my living-room / studio / workshop ;D
Self-employed, working out of my home, aspiring recording / mixing engineer.
Props to Louis Rossmann for preaching the benefits of 4k for viewing schematics ::)
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Plenty of shelf space on that wall to clear things up.
By the way: seeing that you are using those Tannoys (6s?) from the Precision series.
have you found those super tweeters to be of any use? I can cover mine and not
a difference is to be heard. Maybe its may age....
Yours Messtechniker
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I moved house in July, and this is now my living-room / studio / workshop ;D
Sweet! Looks just like my place!
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Actually, at some point i'm planning to put up some acoustic absorption on those walls, i've got flutter echo in that room like a mofo (if you'll pardon the language) :P
About the supertweeters, i'm not terribly sure. but then again, most of the music i listen to is sampled at 44.1kHz, so...
Either way, when i grabbed those (sold as faulty on ebay, grabbed'em for a bit under 200e shipped), i wanted them more for the coax drivers, and the (hopefully) easy repairability :)
Plenty of shelf space on that wall to clear things up.
By the way: seeing that you are using those Tannoys (6s?) from the Precision series.
have you found those super tweeters to be of any use? I can cover mine and not
a difference is to be heard. Maybe its may age....
Yours Messtechniker
You don't wanna know how my previous place looked... ;D
Sweet! Looks just like my place!
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more bits & bobs from off the Bench
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Some of us live in small studios... poor us.
Well, at least I have a fancy lab at work.
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Here's my little corner of electronics in the house.
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Nice bench! I should post mine - if I didn't have 10 different projects going on.
Dave should do a rant about how it's "not the size of the bench, or the collection of test equipment that matters"
I'm always amazed at how many awesome projects come from people with a modest bench, and a $300 scope. And yet other peeps have a $10,000 scope unlimited resources.
Rant on Dave!
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You even have the protection foil on the siglents, Dave does not like that ????
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I'm always amazed at how many awesome projects come from people with a modest bench, and a $300 scope. And yet other peeps have a $10,000 scope unlimited resources.
Over time I've stocked my workbench with auction scores and repair pieces:
(http://i.imgur.com/vBElKggm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/vBElKgg)
I just got my cabinets (free shipping on the Agilent one, don't know how they made money on it) and I'm trying to work out where I want my gear.
This surplus test gear thing is a great way to get quality gear for inexpensive prices. The most expensive piece was the 3458A I got from a Seagate facility closure ($1800) and the least expensive was the 5440B from the US Air force for $65.
Here are some different views:
(http://i.imgur.com/G8PiR5bm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/G8PiR5b)
(http://i.imgur.com/Aa4BJsqm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Aa4BJsq)
TonyG
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I just got my cabinets (free shipping on the Agilent one, don't know how they made money on it) and I'm trying to work out where I want my gear.
This surplus test gear thing is a great way to get quality gear for inexpensive prices. The most expensive piece was the 3458A I got from a Seagate facility closure ($1800) and the least expensive was the 5440B from the US Air force for $65.
Nice array of kit.
Stack it higher and deeper - that's my motto. :clap:
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I'm always amazed at how many awesome projects come from people with a modest bench, and a $300 scope. And yet other peeps have a $10,000 scope unlimited resources.
Over time I've stocked my workbench with auction scores and repair pieces:
(http://i.imgur.com/vBElKggm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/vBElKgg)
I just got my cabinets (free shipping on the Agilent one, don't know how they made money on it) and I'm trying to work out where I want my gear.
This surplus test gear thing is a great way to get quality gear for inexpensive prices. The most expensive piece was the 3458A I got from a Seagate facility closure ($1800) and the least expensive was the 5440B from the US Air force for $65.
Here are some different views:
(http://i.imgur.com/G8PiR5bm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/G8PiR5b)
(http://i.imgur.com/Aa4BJsqm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Aa4BJsq)
TonyG
Lucky man have that place for those gears. 8)
I have something to sell, because of space for new one:)
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Those racks are great. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for something like that.
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Dave should do a rant about how it's "not the size of the bench, or the collection of test equipment that matters"
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Are you kidding? Have you never watched any of his videos? Have you never noticed both the size of his bench space and the size of his test equipment collection.....
Unless you are trying to say he's compensating for something....
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Dave should do a rant about how it's "not the size of the bench, or the collection of test equipment that matters"
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Are you kidding? Have you never watched any of his videos? Have you never noticed both the size of his bench space and the size of his test equipment collection.....
Unless you are trying to say he's compensating for something....
You missed the point, but followed it up well! ;)
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Here are some different views:
(http://i.imgur.com/G8PiR5bm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/G8PiR5b)
(http://i.imgur.com/Aa4BJsqm.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Aa4BJsq)
TonyG
Do you find yourself moving the gear a lot from the racks to the bench? Many of those pieces of gear need to be fairly close to the DUT to be practical. I still have all of my gear in a usable position on the bench, but only because it is not that much stuff. I am looking at an LCR meter, VNA, and SA which would be too big to fit on the bench.
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You might not notice it but there is a little adjustable bench right in front of the 3458A that I can use for a lot of stuff that needs shorter cables. For things that need to be attached directly I have one of those adjustable laptop tables so I can set the height to match my sig gens and then place the equipment on that.
So far it's been a good layout but I haven't screwed anything down yet (and I think I'll move my 3325B further up in the cabinet).
On the bench I have some Rigol gear that use day to day and mostly I can use the RF stuff either by using the little bench or by adjusting for the cable insertion loss.
Overall I'm really happy with the change as it enables me to have more actual bench space.
TonyG
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Playing around with Fyuse today. a partial 360 of the lab! 8)
https://fyu.se/v/ok8puazd7w
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Playing around with Fyuse today. a partial 360 of the lab! 8)
https://fyu.se/v/ok8puazd7w
holy crap, nice
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Full fill up of my thermaltronics soldering tips. 8)
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Playing around with Fyuse today. a partial 360 of the lab! 8)
https://fyu.se/v/ok8puazd7w
I'm dizzy now, I think I'm going to hurl.
I spy a simpson 260
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Playing around with Fyuse today. a partial 360 of the lab! 8)
https://fyu.se/v/ok8puazd7w
That's pretty cool: lab and Fyuse.
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Terabyte,
That is an obscene amount of multimeters!
I love it.
R
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What, only one 3458A? :)
j/k. Nice stash, Tony_G.
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That is an obscene amount of multimeters!
I love it.
I have kind of a multimeter fetish! There are about 12 more that are not in the image... :-DMM
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WOW!!! eye opened
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@terabyte2007 - serious multimeter envy here -
you need to join https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/. (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/.) HiHi
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I have four 19" rack mount cabinets that are on casters. Some have fans built into the top and some have doors.
They were in computer rooms and are in excellent shape. They originally held power supplies.
I've going to sell them, but the eevblog has been very helpful to me and I would like to give something back.
PM me and I will send some photos.
I live in Mansfield Texas. So I am not sure if they would be worth shipping.
If someone wants one and lives near, you can come by and have one.
JoeT
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I was procrastinating out in the shop today, and decided to take a pic mid project.
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That's really nice. :)
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I was procrastinating out in the shop today, and decided to take a pic mid project.
An Eico 324. You don't see those every day. In fact, it has been some years since I last saw mine. It seems to be hiding someplace.
Nice work area you have.
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I have a shelf under the workbench for holding less-frequently used equipment, but I kept banging my my shin on it (ouch!).
So, I got a piece of pipe insulation, and attached it to the edge of the wood shelf. It works great as an inexpensive bumper.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/3-4-in-Self-Stick-Inno-Tough-Pipe-Insulation-INNO3-4SS/206355828 (http://www.homedepot.com/p/3-4-in-Self-Stick-Inno-Tough-Pipe-Insulation-INNO3-4SS/206355828)
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Good idea and it should make barking your shins on the shelf much less painful. :-+
I need to do that to the shelf OVER the eBay packing table at the radio museum I belong to - it's right at temple level, and I've nearly brained myself several times. Thanks for the idea - I'll throw a piece of pipe insulation in the car to have it this coming weekend.
-Pat
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Good idea and it should make barking your shins on the shelf much less painful. :-+
I need to do that to the shelf OVER the eBay packing table at the radio museum I belong to - it's right at temple level, and I've nearly brained myself several times. Thanks for the idea - I'll throw a piece of pipe insulation in the car to have it this coming weekend.
-Pat
@VE7FIM, I second Cubdriver - and excellent idea! :-+
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Gurrr. These chest of drawers look tempting at $40USD each - but even with MDF wood on them still flimsy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHuPY1RGxqM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHuPY1RGxqM)
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I'm no longer buying IKEA crap. It is always a waste of money.
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Not so fast....the RÖLLEKA - Memory foam pillow is the best pillow I've ever used. Not to mention storage units things, and a dozen others. Check http://www.ikeahackers.net/ (http://www.ikeahackers.net/) - it's kinda awesome!
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just a quick shot of the bench
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Pity most of your gear appears to be broken Neil, :palm:
... only 3 have "lights are on and someone's home"! :-DD :-DD
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Pity most of your gear appears to be broken Neil, :palm:
... only 3 have "lights are on and someone's home"! :-DD :-DD
So it appears Marvin So it appears :o :-DD :-DD
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Is the HP freq gen the 3314? I have one and it is may favourite -such a great user interface - I use it over my 33519 any time.
Have you heard the "Easter egg" tune?
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just a quick shot of the bench
Your lab is so tidy. Even your breadboard is tidier than mine has ever been.
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Pity most of your gear appears to be broken Neil, :palm:
... only 3 have "lights are on and someone's home"! :-DD :-DD
So it appears Marvin So it appears :o :-DD :-DD
Funny you mention that. Owner of the small company I worked for was interviewed for a local newspaper and they were taking his picture. So I got to stack everything we could find that had blinkin lights on the bench to make an interesting background for the picture.
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I'm no longer buying IKEA crap. It is always a waste of money.
The trick is wood glue.
Don't rely on the ikea dowel and twist connectors, buy a $5 bottle of woodglue, and glue every corner as well. Glue the dowels, glue the seam, glue the back panels. You'll be amazed how much stronger it is, and how much longer it lasts. Applies to anywhere there's a wood-wood connections.
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the work bench looks like chaos (building an amplifier :) )
greetings
Martin
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The amplifier looks tidy, though.
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my little lab..
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my little lab..
Wow. A place for everything and everything in its place. :clap:
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Little corner, yes. Little lab? Woah. And oh so neat, too.
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I think mine is smaller
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6dKthpgPfBeNysG31HLLAe2Imip34vJfQOVU3Khu1IIUG77JvDReOgEx54gaaArPd3asXzjlJmDI_MQB9vrlimAaZ9RARpe1KIYmJUgyR3xScjV_S_whOuJwAVc0Rcjvtd1PWD59gXnO0rtzprnI8YXba6Vr9MSluYzbR5PWFnRCmEeoV7wXrwPrO4TLaI4un38AyOLmWoyZRpxGl5xH4-tElHvuZ6ScATgSGRzN5IEvniPoXYeVnw8DdzqWj7GOQiXeoKWdXET-ylR1j2Iw3ub0tBDbgjzZeM3tCxVX9vSReE9U1E1OuTPzvAPecdnNJlTzVMwlFoVq3MLYA61h8aCKA2260HAPRbxvh6AaS2wyL4jLD-p_0roxm4XvRhhcdsOwoNzffVjgXyh_baYHiI1tPjxN5di4LvBwvnmCL6DyQumcfv9dUZftyHlpFK8pwq5uLMWKT-y207RbhPRxMtA_T2hMF4vxcfaOE4f1kj_SnZYY3esliprfGHbC5gy1jrh9d9XroEnN-MiC09IfpwHRf__2qQTa3h9IjikJ8zjG_j7V-5ZygEBG0sNTPVsVDkqwNECVie_SHolpJ8TO864PvvZH2ovSTTRSNRgPfuYlvwYBiT1g7w=w1117-h628-no)
I had to make a small portable table.
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my little lab..
Wow. A place for everything and everything in its place. :clap:
Bit of an issue if he ever gets another spanner though... >:D
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Not so fast....the RÖLLEKA - Memory foam pillow is the best pillow I've ever used. Not to mention storage units things, and a dozen others. Check http://www.ikeahackers.net/ (http://www.ikeahackers.net/) - it's kinda awesome!
Hey, it is! Thanks for the link.
I like this one: http://www.ikeahackers.net/2016/02/sneaky-ekby-alex-tool-cabinets.html (http://www.ikeahackers.net/2016/02/sneaky-ekby-alex-tool-cabinets.html)
My Ikea Ivar shelving setup in my study is quite hacked too. Lots of Ikea stuff is great, if you consider it a raw material starting point.
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Lots of Ikea stuff is great, if you consider it a raw material starting point.
I-Kit-A
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the work bench looks like chaos (building an amplifier :) )
greetings
Martin
That's not chaos, that is creativity tunneling into streaming consciousness.
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my little lab..
I'm impressed that you have an anvil in there. I'd be terrified that the vibration would cause problems (but then, I mix metalwork with woodwork so I have many, many problems... welding splatter on sawdust is almost as bad as grinder dust in electronics projects).
I use a fairly large wheeled toolbox (see attachment, note that the side attachments including handles are optional) as my electronics workbench because the drawers are just the right size to hold tackle boxes full of little electronics bits and it's nicely mobile. It also slides under the standing desk with my computer on it when I need it to. But then, I have very few electronics tools and that wouldn't really work if I had a scope and all the other stuff on it too. Apparently I got lucky, because looking online ones like mine seem relatively rare - it has at least 5 of the shallow 6cm deep drawers plus two ~10cm deep ones. But it seems you can also get double-wide versions (or just buy two).
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the work bench looks like chaos (building an amplifier :) )
greetings
Martin
Might you have a scope to check its performance ? :-DD
Or more than just one ? ;)
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Bit of an issue if he ever gets another spanner though... >:D
I do not think I'll ever need another spanner :D
to be honest the majority of stuff in there it belonged to my father that bought and kept in order all over the years ..
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Wow, you guys are tidy...
My bench normally looks like there are elves moving stuff around when you are not looking.
Mid-project, it looks like thieves just looted the area and broke everything with a sledgehammer.
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Wow, you guys are tidy...
My bench normally looks like there are elves moving stuff around when you are not looking.
Mid-project, it looks like thieves just looted the area and broke everything with a sledgehammer.
:-DD :-DD
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Bit of an issue if he ever gets another spanner though... >:D
I do not think I'll ever need another spanner :D
to be honest the majority of stuff in there it belonged to my father that bought and kept in order all over the years ..
Be carefull! accumulating too many tools and things-that-might-come-in-handy-one-day in a confined space starts to distort the fabric of the space-time continuum. Eventually, it creates a wormhole into W-space, which interconnects all messy workshops everywhere in every possible universe. You might go looking for something in a box you are sure you had hidden somewhere behind the third equipment rack, take a wrong turning, and only emerge into (what passes for) the light of day in the Street Of Cunning Artificers!
;)
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Be carefull! accumulating too many tools and things-that-might-come-in-handy-one-day in a confined space starts to distort the fabric of the space-time continuum. Eventually, it creates a wormhole into W-space, which interconnects all messy workshops everywhere in every possible universe. You might go looking for something in a box you are sure you had hidden somewhere behind the third equipment rack, take a wrong turning, and only emerge into (what passes for) the light of day in the Street Of Cunning Artificers!
;)
Or it might earn you a serious earful from the wife, which is a much scarier scenario than just messing up the space-time continuum.
McBryce.
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Might you have a scope to check its performance ? :-DD
Or more than just one ? ;)
always when i put 50$ in the little box for my first brandnew scope the catalog price of the model what i need is 60$ higher then before. :palm:
So that very glowing amplifier must be checked by one of the oldies, what else
greetings
Martin
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Be carefull! accumulating too many tools and things-that-might-come-in-handy-one-day in a confined space starts to distort the fabric of the space-time continuum.
That would explain a lot in my house.
Here we go... Currently between projects doing some light pcb testing.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170315/93f5c8d0bf46d0bb39599f4dcc7ef47f.jpg)
That used to be a kitchen...
Cupboards are filled with electronic and electric awesomeness.
Both sides of the room.
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And a drill press in the shadows?
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Yep
Next to the belt sander :)
I use the metal and woodworking tools out at the balcony.
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Be carefull! accumulating too many tools and things-that-might-come-in-handy-one-day in a confined space starts to distort the fabric of the space-time continuum. Eventually, it creates a wormhole into W-space, which interconnects all messy workshops everywhere in every possible universe. You might go looking for something in a box you are sure you had hidden somewhere behind the third equipment rack, take a wrong turning, and only emerge into (what passes for) the light of day in the Street Of Cunning Artificers!
;)
Or it might earn you a serious earful from the wife, which is a much scarier scenario than just messing up the space-time continuum.
McBryce.
I second that. Messing with the space-time continuum is a piece of cake compared to pissing off She Who Must Be Obeyed. :scared:
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Ursula Andress gets pissed off because of our equipment? >:D
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My stress release...
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=299658;image)
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Wonderful thread, but guys, do you realize that many of you are giving away their GPS position when they post pictures with original Exif data?
I've just looked up a couple of 'labs' and Google Maps brought me right at your doorstep.
Apple and Samsung are usually to blame for this.
Just so you know.
(It would be better to post a cropped version of the original picture, possibly with programs that remove the GPS data - or better yet exchange it with the coordinates of Wrigley Field).
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My stress release...
There is an 898D in every bench these days :)
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Wonderful thread, but guys, do you realize that many of you are giving away their GPS position when they post pictures with original Exif data?
I've just looked up a couple of 'labs' and Google Maps brought me right at your doorstep.
Apple and Samsung are usually to blame for this.
Just so you know.
(It would be better to post a cropped version of the original picture, possibly with programs that remove the GPS data - or better yet exchange it with the coordinates of Wrigley Field).
Funny you mention this. I always keep the gps turned off on my phone(eats batteries) and always crop my images. So generally the exif data, gives info about the phone.
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Wonderful thread, but guys, do you realize that many of you are giving away their GPS position when they post pictures with original Exif data?
I've seen worse. Seriously. Adult fans of Lego post pics with tens of thousands of dollars worth of Lego and GPS co-ords down to the metre(I've used those to navigate to a house before). And a lot of people collect whole Lego sets which are very re-sellable.
I suspect the same applies to a lot of the pics here. Sure, to a dedicated electronics hobbyist the tools are worth a lot, but on ebay not so much. The parts? Ha!
Instead I post pics like this one, where you have to know a little bit to even guess the replacement cost. Better, the value as random parts is small and hard to realise but there's a lot of labour required to re-assemble the sets (and the consequent pay per hour is not that great).
(http://moz.net.nz/lego/moz-lego-storage-3.jpg)
And some of the tools are pretty identifiable. It's like the muppet who stole my obviously one-of-a-kind custom bicycle. Cops brought it back half an hour after I reported it, saying "we saw this guy shortly after getting your photo through the computer". They were not actually rolling their eyes, but the only further news I got was an email saying "he pleaded guilty".
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Your bench appears to be missing your electronics gear! :-DD
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Sure, to a dedicated electronics hobbyist the tools are worth a lot, but on ebay not so much. The parts? Ha!
I wasn't thinking as much about theft as to the chance of finding someone with a baseball bat out of your door yelling "Say 'it's only a 400 dollar oscilloscope' one more time, mother*******! I double dare you!".
No, seriously, I am a bit paranoid about divulging real life data on the Internet and I would want to know if I gave away my exact coordinates unknowingly. Many people do not mind, but some might want to gag their cameras/cellphones.
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Wonderful thread, but guys, do you realize that many of you are giving away their GPS position when they post pictures with original Exif data?
I posted a picture in another thread recently that originally had location info, but when I download it from the forum the location information is no longer there. It seems that the forum software stripped that information.
Not that I care, anyone with half a brain can find out my address.
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Wonderful thread, but guys, do you realize that many of you are giving away their GPS position when they post pictures with original Exif data?
I posted a picture in another thread recently that originally had location info, but when I download it from the forum the location information is no longer there. It seems that the forum software stripped that information.
Not that I care, anyone with half a brain can find out my address.
Indeed. But that's okay. :)
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Staging current 1.5meter square lab/workbench. Preparing major upgrade later this year
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Thinking of buying the same keyboard. How well does the solar stuff work with this logitech?
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Thinking of buying the same keyboard. How well does the solar stuff work with this logitech?
The feeling of the keyboard is great. Comparable to old Thinkpad series. Solar is ok for first 3 years, then starting to develop problem if you don't light it up for several days. Battery gone dead. It is a ML2032 rechargeable coin cell. Replace and everything works again.
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My work bench is always a project in progress itself. Constantly changing.
Yes a lot of it would be considered as old junk to the new guys but it works for me. Most of it is outdated many years ago. But so am I :-DD Here is just a small area of the shop and radio room. Always changing equipment around and added more vintage pieces.
Not as fancy and neat as most pics in the thread.
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^^^ Nice collection. :)
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That's a great layout - Looks outstanding!
TonyG
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Thanks guys. Many years of junk collecting. Finding old gear and repairing it is fun. Finding places to put it is always a challenge though.
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Thanks guys. Many years of junk collecting. Finding old gear and repairing it is fun. Finding places to put it is always a challenge though.
I see some old EICO's and Heathkit's as well as appears to be some RCA VTVM's. :-+
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Thanks guys. Many years of junk collecting. Finding old gear and repairing it is fun. Finding places to put it is always a challenge though.
I see some old EICO's and Heathkit's as well as appears to be some RCA VTVM's. :-+
That is correct. I restored all of those Eico units. Since I work on a lot of vintage gear I want one bench dedicated for period correct gear. It is fun working on a piece from the 60's with the same gear that was available from that time period. It is almost like having a time machine :scared:
Thanks
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My work bench is always a project in progress itself...
I spot a Heathkit IP-2718 Triple Power Supply
I've got one of those. Still works after 40 years. :)
My other Heathkits have all died due to crappy components that keep failing.
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Thanks guys. Many years of junk collecting. Finding old gear and repairing it is fun. Finding places to put it is always a challenge though.
I see some old EICO's and Heathkit's as well as appears to be some RCA VTVM's. :-+
That is correct. I restored all of those Eico units. Since I work on a lot of vintage gear I want one bench dedicated for period correct gear. It is fun working on a piece from the 60's with the same gear that was available from that time period. It is almost like having a time machine :scared:
Thanks
Definitely! But sometimes there's vintage equipment that shouldn't be restored. Case in point. This used to be an EICO 1060 6/12 volt Battery Eliminator / Charger. Powerstat transformer secondary plus 2 HUGE selenium rectifiers. Lewd, crude, and totally unsuitable for any serious work. And I'm sure you're aware selenium rectifiers have a fixed lifespan and will release toxic magic smoke. So this one was totally gutted and rebuilt as a variable 10 amp supply utilizing a LM396K regulator.
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My work bench is always a project in progress itself...
I spot a Heathkit IP-2718 Triple Power Supply
I've got one of those. Still works after 40 years. :)
My other Heathkits have all died due to crappy components that keep failing.
Yes, I love that supply. I did a mail time video not long ago on that one. Was rebuilt by Mikes radio repair and sent in. Along wit ha pace desoldering system, frequency counter bench mutimeter and a 600 watt RF dummy load. But that supply is awesome.
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Definitely! But sometimes there's vintage equipment that shouldn't be restored. Case in point. This used to be an EICO 1060 6/12 volt Battery Eliminator / Charger. Powerstat transformer secondary plus 2 HUGE selenium rectifiers. Lewd, crude, and totally unsuitable for any serious work. And I'm sure you're aware selenium rectifiers have a fixed lifespan and will release toxic magic smoke. So this one was totally gutted and rebuilt as a variable 10 amp supply utilizing a LM396K regulator.
I agree. And like you instead of a restore I do a repurpose.
Plus anything I work on the selenium rectifiers get pulled.
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Here is my new electronics workbench.The table and the rack design has been done without using the wall support.
I need a speed way of doing my work, The arrangement I have placed my items are giving best results for me.I hope every hobbiest needs a descent place to work.
Here is a video of mine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-e-kIgskcM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-e-kIgskcM)
Here is some more pictures.
https://gsmicro.blogspot.com/2017/03/electronics-workbench.html (https://gsmicro.blogspot.com/2017/03/electronics-workbench.html)
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Are plastic chairs a good idea regarding ESD?
McBryce.
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Here is my new electronics workbench.The table and the rack design has been done without using the wall support
I really like this idea. You have it done in similar way I did:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg1045858/#msg1045858 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg1045858/#msg1045858)
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I really need to build a bigger bench... Not having your own house is a real pain...
By the way, what do you guys use for parts storage?
I initially used a few plastic cases with small compartments, but things got out of control fast since I like to order more parts than what I currently need, for future projects.
Right now I have most parts on carton boxes marked vaguely for resistors/active/caps/pcbs etc
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By the way, what do you guys use for parts storage?
Tackle boxes for bigger stuff, with fixed dividers because things always escape under the removable dividers.
Drawers full (https://www.bunnings.co.nz/craftright-storage-box-with-40-plastic-drawers_p00286469) of ziplock bags for the smaller stuff, with rolls of through-hole parts in them. Get blocks of drawers that can attach firmly to each other, and also to the wall behind them. I like transparent ones, and I print on transparent labels with one of those label-printing machines (work provides that :) )
It really pays to find a tackle box that works for you and buy only that exact one. Otherwise you end up with small variations in size, or compartment size, and that will annoy you more over time (when what fits in one box will almost fit in another, so rearranging them takes much longer). Also, the lids must clamp firmly in place and seal. One day a tackle box will fall off the bench. It is inevitable. Some people will insist on ESD protection but I prefer to rely on the grey metallic bags and pink foam, saving a few dollars on the tackle boxes and greatly increasing the selection I have to choose from.
I use Fischer boxes (http://www.fischerplastics.com.au/all-products/20-compartment-extra-large-storage-box.aspx?lv.crumb=15153), they're an Australian company and you almost certainly have something like that local to you. Two of those go into one drawer of my toolbox with a gap of about 2cm in the middle and 7cm at the back (just wide enough to fit strips of thru-hole resistors). Admittedly part of the reason I use those ones is that my woodwork and metalwork and Lego already use them.
The ESD version from Walmart (https://www.walmart.com/ip/FLAMBEAU-C618-ESD-Compartment-Box-Black-G6152492/41951991) is smaller, more expensive, and the lid is held closed by the power of positive thinking.
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I purchased a heavy-duty monitor arm so I could suspend a widescreen monitor in front of my main equipment bench. It worked out great: I can swivel it around or raise it up to get it out of the way when I need to access the equipment behind it, and it doesn't take up any bench space.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=302702;image)
This is my main RF/Microwave bench, with, from left to right, bottom to top:
Rack 1:
* HP 83480A Comm analyzer, with 83483A and 83418A modules
* Agilent 70843B Error Performance Analyzer, for high-speed BERT
* HP 70004A with a 70820A MTA
* HP 70004A with a 70340A signal generator to drive the 70843B
Rack 2:
* HP 70004A with a 70951A Optical Spectrum Analyzer
* HP 70001A with a 70300A & 70301A Tracking generators & 70908A RF Section (+ Freq ref)
* HP 7653C + 85046A VSA
* HP 70004A rounding out the spectrum analyzer, with a 70900B, 70902A & 70903A
Rack 3:
* Agilent E4406A Transmitter Tester
* 3x NI PXI/PXIe shelves with various RF test cards
* KVM
The monitor is an LG 92UM58. I quite like it.
The monitor arm is a Tyke Supply #96 http://www.tykesupply.com/Wall_Ceiling_Mounts-LCD_Wall_Arm.html (http://www.tykesupply.com/Wall_Ceiling_Mounts-LCD_Wall_Arm.html)
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That's quite an arm you've got there!
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My small lab. ;D
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=302787;image)
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VE7FIM
Nice Bench!
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Nice Bench!
Thanks!
The only problem with all that 25 year old HP equipment is that it weighs a ton. Literally. Had to put a new support beam in downstairs, since the racks ended up putting most of their weight in the middle of the joist span, and I'm so glad that I doubled up the 2x4s when I built the desk.
That and I can't have them all running at the same time on a 15 amp circuit. Currently in the process of installing a 30 amp/240 volt circuit to the lab.
Still got a few pieces on the "to purchase" list... HP 83xxx family sweepers are incredibly expensive!
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I remember seeing something like that...
My Local Surplus Store has a HP 8341A Sweeper for sale.
They are reasonable people and always been great to me.
Just a thought,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hewlett-Packard-8341A-Synthesized-Sweeper-01-20Ghz-Option-5-Tested-/252819642934?hash=item3add399a36:g:w8MAAOSwal5YG5eG (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hewlett-Packard-8341A-Synthesized-Sweeper-01-20Ghz-Option-5-Tested-/252819642934?hash=item3add399a36:g:w8MAAOSwal5YG5eG)
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My Local Surplus Store has a HP 8341A Sweeper for sale.
That's what I may have to end up going with... An 8340B, specifically.
I was hoping to find a 83640A, 83650B, or 83651B, but they're still going for five digits, used. :(
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Oh Yeah !
They are nice... and pricey too.
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Multifunction space: Kitchen, all not to messy jobs that must be taken outside, and of course alien cats playground
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Laptops are great buttwarmers aren't they :P
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Multifunction space: Kitchen, all not to messy jobs that must be taken outside, and of course alien cats playground
I like that clothing hanging on the chair ! Perhaps for certain reasons ...
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Multifunction space: Kitchen, all not to messy jobs that must be taken outside, and of course alien cats playground
I see your Supervisor on the table there. :)
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My small work bench :)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c836534/v836534231/313cf/U_rAqOmMhv4.jpg)
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Wow, that's so nice and tidy. Do you actually do any work there? :)
My workbench looks a lot more like that of the late Jim Williams. I just wish my engineering skills looked more like his too.
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Actually. This photo of the first day after the reshuffle. Now here is a wild mess ;D
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Multifunction space: Kitchen, all not to messy jobs that must be taken outside, and of course alien cats playground
I see your Supervisor on the table there. :)
Not a fan of feline supervisors but much better than a seagull supervisor. They just fly in, crap on everything and fly back out again.
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My small work bench :)
Amazing looking workspace, definitely post-cleanup. What is that power supply you are using? I am currently looking for one.
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I use a homemade power supply:
(https://pp.userapi.com/c837431/v837431231/1054d/e50iq_yXG8g.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c837431/v837431231/10561/XrPWYdzlGwQ.jpg)
(https://pp.userapi.com/c837431/v837431231/10543/FZarQQboYDY.jpg)
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Here is my high school workstation. Found a Tektronix 2246 oscilloscope on craigslist last year, and was able to get it for $70 + RC Plane Components. Just grabbed the GW Instek 8020h function generator on ebay in partially working condition($20!); it has to be toggled on and off a couple of times for the display to show the correct output. On the bench right now is a PYNQ-Z1, which was an amazing purchase with the academic discount. Under it there is a Z80 on a bread board and a little bit of storage.
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I use a homemade power supply:
That explains the amazing minimalism/lack of branding.
Looks to me like you are stepping down wall, then outputting it into a switching power supply module? Obviously there is more going on than just that, but is that the basic concept.
Would you happen to have some schematics to share?
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Switching power module is used only for powering the microcontroller and the display. All the analog section (OpAmp, ADC, DAC) is powered by a linear regulator. Maybe not the best solution, but enough for my tasks. Unfortunately there is no schematics(But the scheme is made almost like in the video of Dave: EEVblog #221 - Lab Power Supply Design - Part 1)
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By the way, I recommend the power supply: (Gophert cps-3205) For the price of $ 45 Very good :-+, but it is switching power supply...
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By the way, I recommend the power supply: (Gophert cps-3205) For the price of $ 45 Very good :-+, but it is switching power supply...
Thanks for the recommendation, I will take a look at it.
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Lots of good work benches keep them coming. :)
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Here is my small home workbench (not so much a home as a cabin in the woods - living outside of town on permafrost means no running water, but more money for test equipment :-DMM) .
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Excellent loxodes. Especially the aurora borealis! A cabin in the woods with nice test equipment. What more does one need.
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Excellent loxodes. Especially the aurora borealis! A cabin in the woods with nice test equipment. What more does one need.
I would personally argue that one also needs running water, but the test equipment *might* make up for it.
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Here is my small home workbench (not so much a home as a cabin in the woods - living outside of town on permafrost means no running water, but more money for test equipment :-DMM) .
I love it, looks like my kind of country.
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Excellent loxodes. Especially the aurora borealis! A cabin in the woods with nice test equipment. What more does one need.
I would personally argue that one also needs running water, but the test equipment *might* make up for it.
One needs running electricity and high speed internet, water can be hauled in with 20 liter canisters :popcorn:
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One needs running electricity and high speed internet, water can be hauled in with 20 liter canisters :popcorn:
Back in my day, we hauled our electricity home in buckets, uphill both ways! ;D
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That is awesome, loxodes! Thanks for sharing your lab in the woods. I want one!
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One needs running electricity and high speed internet, water can be hauled in with 20 liter canisters :popcorn:
Back in my day, we hauled our electricity home in buckets, uphill both ways! ;D
Barefoot, in the snow, even in the middle of summer :-DD
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Lab in the woods, :-+
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You had it lucky...
We used to have to harvest our electrons from a Van de Graaf generator at 3 o'clock in the morning, store them in a battery and pay the battery owner for the privilege.
:-DD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo)
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I use a homemade power supply:
This!
I want this display. What is the size and name of this display? I want to put it in every project, it looks so sexy :P
better then old 16x2 LCD.
EDIT: is it 3.5" TFT?
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I use a homemade power supply:
This!
I want this display. What is the size and name of this display? I want to put it in every project, it looks so sexy :P
better then old 16x2 LCD.
EDIT: is it 3.5" TFT?
I second that request.
Can you tell us Make, Model, Supplier.
Thank you.
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Hi, it is "Mcufriend 3.95 inch LCD touch screen, Resolution: 480 x320, Controller: ili9488, library: Mcufriend_kbv_2.8.zip"
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Any other source other then mcufriend.com?
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Aliexpress, Ebay... look for "ILI9488"
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Its this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Display-Plug-and-Play-3-5-inch-TFT-Touch-Screen-Module-Arduino-UNO-R3-Board-/281672772523?hash=item4195016bab:g:RksAAOSwnHZYiGag (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Display-Plug-and-Play-3-5-inch-TFT-Touch-Screen-Module-Arduino-UNO-R3-Board-/281672772523?hash=item4195016bab:g:RksAAOSwnHZYiGag)
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Yes exactly
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Its this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Display-Plug-and-Play-3-5-inch-TFT-Touch-Screen-Module-Arduino-UNO-R3-Board-/281672772523?hash=item4195016bab:g:RksAAOSwnHZYiGag (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Display-Plug-and-Play-3-5-inch-TFT-Touch-Screen-Module-Arduino-UNO-R3-Board-/281672772523?hash=item4195016bab:g:RksAAOSwnHZYiGag)
VA said his screen is 3.95", but that one is 3.5" :-//
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Its this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Display-Plug-and-Play-3-5-inch-TFT-Touch-Screen-Module-Arduino-UNO-R3-Board-/281672772523?hash=item4195016bab:g:RksAAOSwnHZYiGag (http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Display-Plug-and-Play-3-5-inch-TFT-Touch-Screen-Module-Arduino-UNO-R3-Board-/281672772523?hash=item4195016bab:g:RksAAOSwnHZYiGag)
VA said his screen is 3.95", but that one is 3.5" :-//
Its the same thing trust me..
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk
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I looked, really my version is 3.95, like this:http://r.ebay.com/c6f91r
But I bought in 2016 on Aliexpress for $8.5
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Well, I'm nearly complete on getting my bench and equipment ready. The table is an old early 60's drafting board inherited from my Father. I know he worked on designs for parts of the C5-A, Lunar Lander, Various Fighters, and Navy submarines on that table. Anyway, it still works for me. I haven't even used this stuff yet. That fun finally begins tonight. I figure that it is set up pretty well for a guy getting back into it and having forgotten 95% of what he learned 30 years ago.
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Nice. :)
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Very nice. Quite a parts inventory, too. Yeah, you should be good for a little while.
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Well, I'm nearly complete on getting my bench and equipment ready. The table is an old early 60's drafting board inherited from my Father. I know he worked on designs for parts of the C5-A, Lunar Lander, Various Fighters, and Navy submarines on that table. Anyway, it still works for me. I haven't even used this stuff yet. That fun finally begins tonight. I figure that it is set up pretty well for a guy getting back into it and having forgotten 95% of what he learned 30 years ago.
I think you need more power supplies. :P
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And meters, and at least one more scope... :P
-Pat
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And a spectrum analyzer, another sig gen and possible some calibrators....
Love the drafting desk though - That's just an awesome thing to be able to say "Lunar Lander, drawn right here"
TonyG
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Thanks for the comments! Yeah, I want more, but the budget has died for the year. At least I have a lot to keep me occupied with what I have for a while.
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Good choice with the microscope. I have (I believe) the same model on my bench.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=305929;image)
How do you like the camera you're using with it?
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It's the 14mp camera off of ebay. It's ok is about all I can say. It would be better if there were some software with a driver for it, but for 160 bucks, I can't really complain. It does 720p to the HDMI at 30FPS, and to the USB at 25 to 30 FPS. It does capture to the card at 720FPS and can take a max picture of 10MP. The 14Mp must be a marketing gimmick or there is a software thing I can't access. The damn thing came without the software disk in the box, leaving me a bit out in the cold. The seller sent me some files including S-Eye software. but no driver.
I wanted the camera so my daughter and I could watch each others work and generally play around, So nothing critical.
Edit: Here's a better pic of the scope:
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Amazing display of goodies, Housedad.
Best part, of course, is the table. Things like that, they have a soul.
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Well, I'm nearly complete on getting my bench and equipment ready. The table is an old early 60's drafting board inherited from my Father. I know he worked on designs for parts of the C5-A, Lunar Lander, Various Fighters, and Navy submarines on that table. Anyway, it still works for me. I haven't even used this stuff yet. That fun finally begins tonight. I figure that it is set up pretty well for a guy getting back into it and having forgotten 95% of what he learned 30 years ago.
And to think he/they put men on the moon using instruments that were no where near as sophisticated as what you are working with.
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my work in progress, still trying to figure out how to place on the typical components in a "smart" way in those cubbies and where to store my leads
feel free to give me your suggestions!
thanks
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my work in progress, still trying to figure out how to place on the typical components in a "smart" way in those cubbies and where to store my leads
feel free to give me your suggestions!
thanks
Good start. My bench and shelving changes on a weekly basis as I buy more test equipment. Enjoy the ride. :)
PS: Go to the link in my signature, there is a support group on this forum that you might need someday when you find out you can't stop buying test gear.
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my work in progress, still trying to figure out how to place on the typical components in a "smart" way in those cubbies
That will depend on what you like, how you use them, and what equipment comes along later. Start a project and see what works best. Adjust as needed.
and where to store my leads
Mounting a lead hanger on the right side of the shelves seems a good place.
Nice chair!
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It's the 14mp camera off of ebay. It's ok is about all I can say. It would be better if there were some software with a driver for it, but for 160 bucks, I can't really complain. It does 720p to the HDMI at 30FPS, and to the USB at 25 to 30 FPS. It does capture to the card at 720FPS and can take a max picture of 10MP. The 14Mp must be a marketing gimmick or there is a software thing I can't access. The damn thing came without the software disk in the box, leaving me a bit out in the cold. The seller sent me some files including S-Eye software. but no driver.
I wanted the camera so my daughter and I could watch each others work and generally play around, So nothing critical.
Edit: Here's a better pic of the scope:
Looks like the same scope I have. Really need to get a camera for it. Soon I will as soon as I can make my mind up. Looking at the one from Amscope.
http://www.amscope.com/5mp-usb-microscope-camera-measurement-software.html (http://www.amscope.com/5mp-usb-microscope-camera-measurement-software.html)
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my work in progress, still trying to figure out how to place on the typical components in a "smart" way in those cubbies and where to store my leads
feel free to give me your suggestions!
thanks
I would move the "cubbies" to the top shelf. In the now empty space I would add another equipment shelf, same as the one on the right. Test leads, unless you have a lot, could hang down the right side of the shelves. Some kind of hanging mechanism would be needed.
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Nice desk, Jassoul. I see you have a door to the left of the table. Is there enough room there to put in a standard bookcase? That could be somewhere to add more shelf space for stuff that is not as deep as some test equipment. It takes a while to figure out exactly how to arrange a new setup, it seems. I've been working figuring it out for a couple of months and it is still not there yet.
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Looks like the same scope I have. Really need to get a camera for it. Soon I will as soon as I can make my mind up. Looking at the one from Amscope.
http://www.amscope.com/5mp-usb-microscope-camera-measurement-software.html (http://www.amscope.com/5mp-usb-microscope-camera-measurement-software.html)
That's the same microscope camera that I have have. It's not too bad, but certainly not the best quality. Here's an example picture:
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I just built myself a small electronics workbench to use in the spare bedroom. Legs are pine and top is oak ply with red oak banding on the edges. Topped off with a nice rubber static mat.
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Nice bench. The fence around the perimeter should prove to be quite effective at keeping pesky parts from rolling into the floor.
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Nice bench. The fence around the perimeter should prove to be quite effective at keeping pesky parts from rolling into the floor.
...or at least limiting their options for an escape route to some extent... ;)
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Good thought, in theory.
In my experience with watch repair and smd components they fly off your tweezers at a high angle.... :wtf:
Overall this is a really nice bench and the three gards will prevent lots a stuff from rolling away, in particular, from the back when you push something from the front.
Nice touch :D
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Thanks!
I also thought the edges would keep the rubber mat from "walking" off the edge of the bench.
The bench is only 2' deep so I think i will build a free-standing shelf (maybe a foot deep?) to go behind the bench to stack gear on.
I also have a table to go alongside for my laptop and other bits not being actively worked on.
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Nice bench. The fence around the perimeter should prove to be quite effective at keeping pesky parts from rolling into the floor.
...or at least limiting their options for an escape route to some extent... ;)
-Pat
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pesky parts always jump at least 1-2 meters from my experience.
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Good thought, in theory.
In my experience with watch repair and smd components they fly off your tweezers at a high angle.... :wtf:
That how Jesus clips got their name...
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Few new photos of my messy lab :D
Electronic work area :-DMM
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/lab01.jpg)
Mechanical and inspection work area :phew:
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/lab02.jpg)
Programming and debugging work area :-/O
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/lab03.jpg)
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Few new photos of my messy lab :D
And that's a very nice mess ! :-+
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Microscope and drill next to each other hurt my eyes though.
Cudos for old Keithley electrometer (601/610 right?). GPSDO test in progress?
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This is part of my repair-bench. Right now working on a 20kV Power Designs power supply from the 60s with the help of a scope from the 70s (HP 182C), right for the risky task.
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Don't worry it's temporary place for microscope when CNC mill is not used ;D
And yes finally is time to GPSDO, until precision resistors arrive for KX LTZ1000 reference :)
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I figured, as cardboard box barely fits stability definition for microscope use :)
And my voltnut corner is so messed up now, that it doesn't make any sense even for a voltnut :D
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I figured, as cardboard box barely fits stability definition for microscope use :)
And my voltnut corner is so messed up now, that it doesn't make any sense even for a voltnut :D
Cardboard box is the best :-DD
Microscope and drill next to each other hurt my eyes though.
Cudos for old Keithley electrometer (601/610 right?). GPSDO test in progress?
Keithley electrometer is 602. I'm order two lug bnc and also traixial cable (I waited two months for this cable) but cable is to big in diameter for the connector :palm:
It's no easy to buy triaxial cable nowadays. (if you don't need 100m)
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Few new photos of my messy lab :D
I love the mix of old and new test gear BFX. :-+
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Few new photos of my messy lab :D
I love the mix of old and new test gear BFX. :-+
I tried to achieve good old/new ratio ;D (new TEA diagnose? >:D)
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Few new photos of my messy lab :D
I love the mix of old and new test gear BFX. :-+
I tried to achieve good old/new ratio ;D (new TEA diagnose? >:D)
GONR that is good. :)
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This is part of my repair-bench. Right now working on a 20kV Power Designs power supply from the 60s with the help of a scope from the 70s (HP 182C), right for the risky task.
Hey, it may be a very old scope, about to be sent to its death against a 20KV foe, but that's no reason to torment it so. Incorrectly compensated probe on the test square wave output, and the ground clip not connected. Hence non-square display. It hurts the eyes, and offends the scope-gods.
Otherwise, nice bench.
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Kilovolt gods need a sacrifice to be happy and not unwrap their wrath on the owner. :-BROKE
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I don't see anything on that bench that would take kindly to 20kv :-BROKE
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I don't see anything on that bench that would take kindly to 20kv :-BROKE
Oh, Im not there yet. I have 5 x1000 probes rated anywhere from 12kv to 40kv. Besides I have a number of ceramic resistive 1:10000 dividers, around 550Mohms, that will take 50kV+ with no problem, if submerged in oil or epoxy of course as they are not that big.
And I forgot the not very well known HP 11039 capacitive voltage divider
Hey, it may be a very old scope, about to be sent to its death against a 20KV foe, but that's no reason to torment it so. Incorrectly compensated probe on the test square wave output, and the ground clip not connected. Hence non-square display. It hurts the eyes, and offends the scope-gods.
Otherwise, nice bench.
Well I'm just probing the LV section first. The 182C itself is a repair-in-process. I already fixed a broken internal part, and has some issues with the vertical gain, compensation(not a probe thing) and triggering. Anyway its usable enough for this task, no way I'm using any of my digital scopes for this, but to demonstrate my good faith I'll use a 2.5kV x100 probe with it ;D
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And I forgot the little known HP 11039 capacitive voltage divider
That is very nice. I'd never heard of the 11039A either. So little known I can't find a manual for it. Do you happen to have a pdf of it?
The 11039A very rarely appears on ebay it seems.
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soving scool for men :)
greetings
Martin
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And I forgot the little known HP 11039 capacitive voltage divider
That is very nice. I'd never heard of the 11039A either. So little known I can't find a manual for it. Do you happen to have a pdf of it?
The 11039A very rarely appears on ebay it seems.
Nothing much out there, as it was an accessory for the HP 410B and C voltmeters, 1963 stuff! .I bought it as is and put a BNC connector on it.
$150 in 1963 $$$
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soving scool for men :)
greetings
Martin
Again lovely work!
Robert
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Nothing much out there, as it was an accessory for the HP 410B and C voltmeters, 1963 stuff! .I bought it as is and put a BNC connector on it.
$150 in 1963 $$$
So, there's no connection other than a coax? Meaning there's no powered circuitry inside?
Reason I'm interested, is I have a box of large vacuum capacitors, and for some reason it didn't occur to me till seeing that photo that they'd be a good start on making a high voltage capacitive divider.
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I have a box of large vacuum capacitors,
Those are expensive and best suited for capacitive dividers, you just need a low side capacitor to make the correct division factor and a adjustable cap to fine tune, read this PDF for more info:
https://www.surplussales.com/VaccumVarCaps/pdf/JenningsVoltageDivider.pdf (https://www.surplussales.com/VaccumVarCaps/pdf/JenningsVoltageDivider.pdf)
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Work in progress...
Unfortunately for just ~5mm I cannot have a proper solid 3m bench. I have to juggle some stuff around and see how I can fit two 150cm tables into a ~299.5cm wall :(
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=310835;image)
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Work in progress...
Unfortunately for just ~5mm I cannot have a proper solid 3m bench. I have to juggle some stuff around and see how I can fit two 150cm tables into a ~299.5cm wall :(
:-DD
Slam it in there - no one will be the wiser!
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Yeah, I already tried it. Unfortunately, those IKEA Linnmon boards are so crappy that I am afraid they will start cracking after a bit.
I will just get some longer extension screws for the feet and learn to live with the height difference.
And I need to screw them to the wall too. They are way too lightweight to be trusted....
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Yeah, I already tried it. Unfortunately, those IKEA Linnmon boards are so crappy that I am afraid they will start cracking after a bit.
I will just get some longer extension screws for the feet and learn to live with the height difference.
And I need to screw them to the wall too. They are way too lightweight to be trusted....
Consider having one table at desk height and the other at bar height for standing at while you work. Personally I like to stand while assembling or disassembling out other mechanical type work, but prefer to sit while soldering, probing, etc. This will also create separate mechanical and electrical spaces.
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Consider having one table at desk height and the other at bar height for standing at while you work. Personally I like to stand while assembling or disassembling out other mechanical type work, but prefer to sit while soldering, probing, etc. This will also create separate mechanical and electrical spaces.
I am doing the same thing, but I think that I prefer it on desk height while standing. It's probably because it gives me a nice overview of the assembly and better mechanical strength because I can turn my arms whichever way they need to be, usually straight up while I'm screwing something. Remember how we usually bend to the side to align our forearm with the screw if we have to screw something with some force in front of us. Working from above makes this much easier.
It might be a nice idea to help stretch our legs a bit though :)
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Unfortunately for just ~5mm I cannot have a proper solid 3m bench. I have to juggle some stuff around and see how I can fit two 150cm tables into a ~299.5cm wall :(
But.... 5mm? There are things called circular saws, and ironically enough, table saws. Can't you just saw 5mm (or 7) mm off whatever 3m table you like?
Even if you don't have such tools, timber yards and joinery shops do. Take the table to them.
If you have only a very cheap small circular saw, you can still get a perfect clean straight cut, by clamping a guide rail to the table and running the saw along against that.
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But.... 5mm? There are things called circular saws, and ironically enough, table saws.
Yep, even if you're renting and not allowed to change the property in any way, there's no reason to stick with what you can buy ready-made. I've had Dave-style setups in rented places... actually, *Dave* rents that office, so Dave has a Dave-style setup in a rented space. Just sayin :)
One option would be to even rough-cut the edge off one table with a handsaw, then get a sheet of proper table-top cut by a local timber merchant to the exact size you want. But at 3m it's likely to be pricey because most standard sheet materials come in 2.4m or 6 foot lengths. If you can stand having the gap in the centre of the bench you could just live with the two tables.
A better option for portability would be to make a "benchtop" that's the size you like to work on, and put other stuff on the outside ends of the two tables. You could also get a ~2.8m length of structural timber, run that along the front edge of the tables and remove or cut off the middle legs. That way you don't have the annoying legs breaking up the space under your workbench.
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Yeah I have a circular saw :)
But I am reluctant to cut the tabletop because it is an IKEA particle board that is more or less hollow after a few mms of stuff.
It will probably start to fall apart sooner or later if cut.
I did think of doing the entire table out of mdf or ply, but I do not really have the time and energy to do any proper woodwork and/or finishing at this point
I just wanted something easily portable and fast .
BTW moving from a 40cm countertop to a much wider surface is such a relief
Now i just have to find a place to store the guestroom stuff :)
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Yeah I have a circular saw :) But I am reluctant to cut the tabletop because it is an IKEA particle board that is more or less hollow after a few mms of stuff. It will probably start to fall apart sooner or later if cut.
Perhaps you could do a quick test from the bottom (measure in and make a tiny hole) to see if you have this?
http://www.ikeahackers.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/honeycomb.jpg (http://www.ikeahackers.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/honeycomb.jpg)
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Or quit buying termite barf from ikea and just go to the hardware store and buy some plywood.
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Yes, do a test hole with a small drill bit. As long as 0.5cm from the edge does not put you into a hollow core (unlikely) then you can cut it with a circular saw. It would be best with that kind of melamine or laminate top to use a fine tooth blade with a thin kerf. If you don't have one for your saw already, it's a worthwhile investment. As Terrahertz said, clamp a guide rail parallel to the edge to get a clean, straight cut.
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You might be able to slice the end off, make a resize cut, then glue the end back on. Probably would require good equipment though. I might even be tempted to try and peel the laminate off the end first using hot air to help.
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Moving my lab to another place. Started by installing storage bin cabinets I bought from company where I worked many years but was closed two years ago. Cabinets were originally arranged in two rotating towers but I prefer have them on the wall.
It took some time to plan, measure, drill and screw to have them in straight lines. There are totally 23 cabinets (17 + 6), installation is almost ready in second picture.
Cabinets came with lots of components but I will add some more from my own boxes, bins, bags, tubes, .. I have to rearrange and relabel all bins, ordered Dymo LabelWriter 450 Duo already.. ;) I wonder should I use different colors for active, passive, opto, mechanical and other items or use just ordinary black on white.
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Yeah I have a circular saw :)
But I am reluctant to cut the tabletop because it is an IKEA particle board that is more or less hollow after a few mms of stuff.
It will probably start to fall apart sooner or later if cut.
I did think of doing the entire table out of mdf or ply, but I do not really have the time and energy to do any proper woodwork and/or finishing at this point
I just wanted something easily portable and fast .
BTW moving from a 40cm countertop to a much wider surface is such a relief
Now i just have to find a place to store the guestroom stuff :)
There's a few ways you can do the trim.
If the clashing strip is thin take a little off both ends, clean it up with a wood plane and reseal it with some primer.
OR if you need more, dress up a new clashing strip, cut the desk to size and glue/fix the new strip over the cut.
A sharp hand buzzer is good for leaving a smooth surface for the clashing strip to be glued to and with a little ingenuity and a handful of clamps you can use a strongback on top of the strip and clamp it in tight while the glue sets for a neat and tidy joint.
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If I understood correctly, he needs to cut 0.5cm off of one end to squeeze two of these between 2 walls, in which case the cut end would be snug against a wall. So finishing it or covering it with laminate is unnecessary. If it was me, I'd just file or sand the top edge of the cut smooth and perhaps use a strip of white duct tape across the cut end before putting it up against the wall.
If it's going to be a semi-permanent installation, then a small bead of white silicone caulk between the top cut edge and wall might also be a good idea.
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Good thing you have wall room for all those drawer cabinets!
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Really appreciate the input
But as I said, at this point I do not have the energy or the time for woodworking. I have too much stuff to do as it is, and I'd rather spend the little personal time I have in things I (currently) find more relaxing :)
Although woodwork can be quite therapeutic itself :)
I will just add some longer extension screws on the feet and just live with one of the tables being ~5cm higher than the other.
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If I understood correctly, he needs to cut 0.5cm off of one end to squeeze two of these between 2 walls, in which case the cut end would be snug against a wall. So finishing it or covering it with laminate is unnecessary. If it was me, I'd just file or sand the top edge of the cut smooth and perhaps use a strip of white duct tape across the cut end before putting it up against the wall.
If it's going to be a semi-permanent installation, then a small bead of white silicone caulk between the top cut edge and wall might also be a good idea.
There could be a problem, depending on how cheap IKEA was being that day. Those look like their standard Lack tables, which are made like hollow-core doors so there isn't much meat on the ends. 5mm might be all there is before you expose empty space, which isn't very good for a torsion box.
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i suppose you could cut it down and then cap off the end with thin plywood, properly bonded that should in theory retain the strength.
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The only piece of my lab I can show shameless :palm:
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You may find an additional arm rest to the left an right useful.
I did anyway when dissecting out salivary glands from 3 day old
fruit fly larvae. 8) Yep - Drosophila melanogaster - you know the one.
Even so, I have not yet come around to do smd work. Trying to
avoid such as the plague, although not being jittery yet.
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palindrom71 I've got a similar microscope.
I removed the base and reattached it so the platform is at the rear. I put a heavy metal block on it to act as a counterbalance.
I found it worked much better as the boards can sit on the desk surface, it also puts the eye pieces a little lower.
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Unfortunately it's not a good option for me, as I use backlight often. Great feature for pcb w/o ground plane. I'll have to make additional led ring around objective though. BTW, its price tag is identical to Rigol 1054z :-+
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That's just awesome!
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Every lab need a Jacobs Ladder, so here's mine:
(http://wunderkis.de/britzel/spic/ladder2.jpg)
Videos (embedded HTML5 / ogg, may not work on anything else but firefox) here:
http://wunderkis.de/britzel/index.html (http://wunderkis.de/britzel/index.html)
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Speaking of arcs... my main workshop has two doors; one for me and one for the cats. Pic1.
The cat flap is good in theory, but not so great in practice. One cat is too thick to ever figure it out. And one of the local possums is smart enough to use it, to get to the cat food bowls inside. That's bad enough, but having got inside it also then decides to explore for comfy possum nests.
Which in a large workshop there are plenty of, among the expensive and precious equipment and storage areas.
But I highly disapprove. Anyone who knows how destructive possums always are will understand. They chew everything (including wiring - both signal and mains), and their pee is corrosive enough to eat through stainless steel (an actual thing that happened here.) Also they pee everywhere they go, to mark their path. So hopefully people won't frown on the next part too much.
Pic 2 is a small hand held Tesla coil. These are normally used to find vacuum leaks in glassware, by observing where electrons can get through, causing more visible ionization in the low pressure internal gas.
It's currently taped on a stick, so it can be poked into small spaces in cupboards and other difficult to access spaces a possum would like. This setup is the result of a recent argument with Mr Possum, over whether he's allowed in my workshop. The Possum Prod (Tesla on a stick) worked pretty well, and wins that argument on the spot.
Fortunately that time he'd chosen a cupboard full of non-electronic stuff (lab glassware and kitchen utensils mostly) so the Tesla coil could be used without destroying equipment. But possums are incredibly stubborn, and he came back in the next night briefly. I guess the next step is a cage trap and transporting to some very distant bushland.
Pic 3 shows the type of arcing these little units make. Nothing visible unless it's held within an inch of something. Concrete, possum...
Pic 4 is it in contact with a light bulb. The glass is still insulating, so there's ionization streamers radially on the surface, and a capacitively coupled streamer inside.
Pic 5 is a few seconds later. A point on the glass has heated up enough from the high frequency dissipation, to become conductive. The hot spot glows, there's no side streaming, and a stronger internal ionization path.
20170502 edit to add pic: A funny looking cat.
20170505 edit to add pic: Caught. Will be relocated to a nice new (and distant) bush home today.
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Speaking of arcs... my main workshop has two doors; one for me and one for the cats. Pic1.
The cat flap is good in theory, but not so great in practice. One cat is too thick to ever figure it out. And one of the local possums is smart enough to use it, to get to the cat food bowls inside. That's bad enough, but having got inside it also then decides to explore for comfy possum nests.
Which in a large workshop there are plenty of, among the expensive and precious equipment and storage areas.
But I highly disapprove. Anyone who knows how destructive possums always are will understand. They chew everything (including wiring - both signal and mains), and their pee is corrosive enough to eat through stainless steel (an actual thing that happened here.) Also they pee everywhere they go, to mark their path. So hopefully people won't frown on the next part too much.
Pic 2 is a small hand held Tesla coil. These are normally used to find vacuum leaks in glassware, by observing where electrons can get through, causing more visible ionization in the low pressure internal gas.
It's currently taped on a stick, so it can be poked into small spaces in cupboards and other difficult to access spaces a possum would like. This setup is the result of a recent argument with Mr Possum, over whether he's allowed in my workshop. The Possum Prod (Tesla on a stick) worked pretty well, and wins that argument on the spot.
Fortunately that time he'd chosen a cupboard full of non-electronic stuff (lab glassware and kitchen utensils mostly) so the Tesla coil could be used without destroying equipment. But possums are incredibly stubborn, and he came back in the next night briefly. I guess the next step is a cage trap and transporting to some very distant bushland.
Pic 3 shows the type of arcing these little units make. Nothing visible unless it's held within an inch of something. Concrete, possum...
Pic 4 is it in contact with a light bulb. The glass is still insulating, so there's ionization streamers radially on the surface, and a capacitively coupled streamer inside.
Pic 5 is a few seconds later. A point on the glass has heated up enough from the high frequency dissipation, to become conductive. The hot spot glows, there's no side streaming, and a stronger internal ionization path.
;D
My Telsa on a stick is .22 calibre as we're allowed to shoot them here. >:D
Yep. they love vacant sheds especially when the weather has broken to our Autumn and Winter.
When I was a kid we loved hunting them up in trees where they slept, we didn't get many as we only were allowed pocket knives back then and we soon learnt to respect their sharp claws and teeth. :wtf:
In the following 50 odd years I must have shot thousands.....which reminds me there's another one I saw the other night in the tree behind the house....another that needs dealing to.
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Speaking of arcs... my main workshop has two doors; one for me and one for the cats. Pic1.
The cat flap is good in theory, but not so great in practice. One cat is too thick to ever figure it out.
I have a flap in the door leading into my garage from my kitchen, which my cat knows how to use very well.
The funny thing is if I'm in the kitchen she will wait at the door for me to open the main door, instead of using the flap.
Go figure ... :-//
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Speaking of arcs... my main workshop has two doors; one for me and one for the cats. Pic1.
The cat flap is good in theory, but not so great in practice. One cat is too thick to ever figure it out.
I have a flap in the door leading into my garage from my kitchen, which my cat knows how to use very well.
The funny thing is if I'm in the kitchen she will wait at the door for me to open the main door, instead of using the flap.
Go figure ... :-//
Dogs have masters............Cats have servants. :P
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Speaking of arcs... my main workshop has two doors; one for me and one for the cats. Pic1.
The cat flap is good in theory, but not so great in practice. One cat is too thick to ever figure it out.
I have a flap in the door leading into my garage from my kitchen, which my cat knows how to use very well.
The funny thing is if I'm in the kitchen she will wait at the door for me to open the main door, instead of using the flap.
Go figure ... :-//
Dogs have masters............Cats have servants. :P
However, who said you can't train cats ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMibn2-TWG8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMibn2-TWG8)
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However, who said you can't train cats ?
Yea I've seen that, and it's impressive, but the more amazing thing is that cats can actually train humans. :o
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Cats being trained to use a bell is a ruse. They're just playing along in order to empower themselves with the ability to call their servants from a distance. Don't try to "train" them to use a smartphone. You have been warned. :-DD
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The Possum Prod (Tesla on a stick) worked pretty well, and wins that argument on the spot.
Fortunately that time he'd chosen a cupboard full of non-electronic stuff (lab glassware and kitchen utensils mostly) so the Tesla coil could be used without destroying equipment. But possums are incredibly stubborn, and he came back in the next night briefly. I guess the next step is a cage trap and transporting to some very distant bushland.
Sounds like you need to mount the Tesla on a stick beside the cat door along with an RFID transceiver and microcontroller. Then, put corresponding chips on your cats. Door opens without proper ID? Vacuum leak test engaged!
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I was once able to train a cat to use the toilet. I never could get her to flush it though.
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Sounds like you need to mount the Tesla on a stick beside the cat door along with an RFID transceiver and microcontroller. Then, put corresponding chips on your cats. Door opens without proper ID? Vacuum leak test engaged!
Hmmm... And the failure mode is???
I'd thought of that. Too much trouble and risks zapping my cats. A better way is just having an IR camera outside looking at the cat flap, and monitor inside at my desk. Plus the ZAP button. But despite the video-game-like satisfaction factor this still has flaws. In that possums are so stubborn I expect the 'training' wouldn't be reliable.
Trapping and relocating the cute little destructo-monster seems the best way. That doesn't involve an axe. (Since we're not allowed to shoot them here.)
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THz, they're suckers for a flour and aniseed lure in low light conditions so shouldn't be hard to entice into a cage trap.
Bit of aniseed rag tied onto the cage trip trigger should do the trick. Half a nice apple works well too.
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Today I am working on the case for the Dos4ever uTracer.
Re-purposing a Microsense capacitive meter.
Works great case has handles, meter, detachable lid, 20vdc power supply, switches and fits PC Board perfectly.
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I thought my DSA was not exactly a space saver but you have 2 of them! :o
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If you put some old HP Linear power supplies and a Dell Server Rack next to them they don't look so big.
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Here is my work bench. I never quite feel it's optimized, no matter where I put something it seems to be the wrong spot. I recently replaced my 11302A and 8920B with lunch box replacements. I like the extra space and at least now it's easy to move things around ( the 11302A and 8920B pretty much had permanent locations ). I'm thinking of making some movable racks to stack some things but not sure what I want to do.
For now, this is the way it looks. It's 8 feet wide and 3 feet deep. The top shelf is not really sagging.
Joel
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Sounds like you need to mount the Tesla on a stick beside the cat door along with an RFID transceiver and microcontroller. Then, put corresponding chips on your cats. Door opens without proper ID? Vacuum leak test engaged!
Hmmm... And the failure mode is???
I'd thought of that. Too much trouble and risks zapping my cats.
Certainly. It was not intended to be a serious project concept. Who knows how reliable and consistent RFID would be in such a setup.
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Won lots of space on the bench after some modifications :)
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For now, this is the way it looks. It's 8 feet wide and 3 feet deep. The top shelf is not really sagging.
Joel
That looks nice.
I think I would be tempted to add a second shelf to get more of the equipment up out of the workspace. It looks like there's plenty of room. I have a thing about keeping the top as clear as possible so that there is more room for clutter when working on a project.
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Today I am working on the case for the Dos4ever uTracer.
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I built one and cased it similarly to the designer. I needn't have bothered with as many sockets, octal, decal mini 7 9 gets most use.
Used it to test all the tubes in a Tek 545 and an HP 521C (IIRC about 100 and 50 respectively).
I have found the 'card system' by this I mean a card that sits between the anode/grid/screen/heater sockets and the number sockets & helps you put the correct wires in the right place (and on the back I put the test conditions and expected results) very helpful. (not shown below)
Robert
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VK5RC
I remember your uTracer on the testimonials page. Great Job!
It never ceases to amaze me the creative enclosure designs for the uTracer builds.
I am going with re-purposing old units.
Found another case at my local surplus store.
Thinking about buying also.
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Won lots of space on the bench after some modifications :)
What's under the platform on which the monitor sits?
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What's under the platform on which the monitor sits?
A keyboard?
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What's under the platform on which the monitor sits?
A keyboard?
LOL! Of course! Mine is mounted under the tabletop, so either it didn't occur to me or I wasn't yet fully awake.
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well, glad to see this thread is alive again. in fact, currently i've made alot of movements. currently i'm transferring website which has not finished yet :(, i'm moving house but pending due to some renovation, and guess what? i'm going to move the lab too !!! and all the stuffs inside urghhh! when the time comes. so far, my new lab is just on sketch, this is what i think that will suits me to better organize my lab. any suggestions are welcomed :)
ps: the cyan colored line is my current (to be dismissed) lab (just as shown earlier in this thread few months back), so the new lab will have like twice the size of the current one.
i cant wait to move to my "new" lab more than to move to the house itself. haha, funny i guess.
errata: computering bench should be exchanged with printing/reading bench. so i can easily program PIC from computer ("ing") to the ee bench just next to the right.
Yes, swap the computer bench next to the EEbench, that's important.
A whole bench for printing/reading? I'd dedicate that to a "project in progress" bench.
Dave.
I have been running combined computer/EE bench for a while and let's just say that live soldering is fun.
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Are you kidding? Have you never watched any of his videos? Have you never noticed both the size of his bench space and the size of his test equipment collection.....
It wasn't always like that. If you watch the real early videos, Dave started the blog off in the corner of the garage - probably in about a 2x2m space with shit stacked high. Youtube and the people have been real nice to his cause of Gear Acquisition Syndrome ;) and finding a large space to store it.
Work in progress...
Unfortunately for just ~5mm I cannot have a proper solid 3m bench. I have to juggle some stuff around and see how I can fit two 150cm tables into a ~299.5cm wall :(
I'd be cutting one of those down 10-15mm and then reattaching the legs. Or forgo the legs on one side, rip it down and attach with brackets underneath to the other?
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Uh, killawhat, you can edit posts to add afterthoughts. Six sequential posts in one thread is poor etiquette.
You can still fix it - open the first post for editing, copy the texts from the others into it, then delete those ones.
Welcome to the forum! Would be better to start off without a bellyflop.
Oh, and if you are in Sydney, any chance of an introduction to the guy with two huge sheds full of excess gear? >:D
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Uh, killawhat, you can edit posts to add afterthoughts. Six sequential posts in one thread is poor etiquette.
You can still fix it - open the first post for editing, copy the texts from the others into it, then delete those ones.
Welcome to the forum! Would be better to start off without a bellyflop.
Oh, and if you are in Sydney, any chance of an introduction to the guy with two huge sheds full of excess gear? >:D
Yeah sorry about that, I got to the end of the post and realised that it doesn't add them as replies - just adds them all at the end! I've deleted a couple as I couldn't find the original posts (where I should have quoted) and fixed the rest
I've been buying audio gear from a guy out in Castlereagh (between Richmond and Penrith) off ebay. I just pick it up when I have to come to Sydney. It's not just audio gear, there's just a huge collection of STUFF - I don't think he even knows what's in there!
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Any other source other then mcufriend.com?
*than
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Hi, the only way to build an electonic work-benc/lab in the new house was to take advantage of a small niche I have behind a desk.
This is the design and build :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q1T-4GXVLo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q1T-4GXVLo)
This is the "work-bench" in use.
Note that underneath the first shelf I have a compartment where I placed all the power bars, cabling and networking devices.
When the upper door is closed, it looks like a normal piece of forniture = wife happy!!
Mauro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8sUe7O9Ts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8sUe7O9Ts)
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Very cool and stealthy, Mauro!
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I have rack mounted my computers. And my original monitor gave up ghosts so I went for a Dell P2415Q 4K monitor (and rendered my entire HDMI-based A/V stack obsolete.)
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I have rack mounted my computers.
Hmm... something is missing... Ah! The rack doesn't yet have the obligatory lace trim.
I didn't know China has a lace-coverings tradition?
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That 'lace' is the latest smd capture device - stops those smd diodes rolling off the desk!
HiHi
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Hmm... something is missing... Ah! The rack doesn't yet have the obligatory lace trim.
Lace trim won't work on top of the rack: exposed screws prevents the tempered glass pane that holds the lace in place from being placed on top of it.
I didn't know China has a lace-coverings tradition?
It is my mom that insists on using those tablecloth with lace trims.
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That 'lace' is the latest smd capture device - stops those smd diodes rolling off the desk!
HiHi
Actually it does catch SOT-23 that I spilled. :-DD
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Remolded part of the hobby room last month;
Before;
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/6A0B0E11-C564-4AB8-A001-92805BF319B9.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/6A0B0E11-C564-4AB8-A001-92805BF319B9.jpg.html)
After;
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/FED0D099-8CDC-42C9-A389-564C53AC60AD.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/FED0D099-8CDC-42C9-A389-564C53AC60AD.jpg.html)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/0C37C342-499C-435E-95EA-17412E0A4E38.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/0C37C342-499C-435E-95EA-17412E0A4E38.jpg.html)
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Remolded part of the hobby room last month;
Well done! :-+
That reminds me that I have a plane to build. So many projects... ^-^
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What's under the platform on which the monitor sits?
A keyboard?
LOL! Of course! Mine is mounted under the tabletop, so either it didn't occur to me or I wasn't yet fully awake.
Yes it s my keyboard . Won many extra space when moving it under the platform . Seems that a workbench never will be finished for ever . :-DD
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Currently revamping my work repair lab
Phil - Melbourne, Australia.
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Wow! Looks like a hospital lab!
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Way too Neat and organized!
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More than enough, I love test gears :P
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thanks, I previously had a "junk yard" theme going, so this is quite a change for me.
Lots more stuff to go back in there yet which is why it still looks clean.
Also want to get some blue ESD matting for the benchtops. Does anyone know where is the best place to buy that in Australia?
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I got mine from mektronics. They have a roll of 900mm wide x 10 meters long that I just cut to length. They also sell the clipsal earth point connectors (439as if I remember correctly) and the press studs, cables etc... for connecting the mat to the earth point.
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Currently revamping my work repair lab
Phil - Melbourne, Australia.
What is the height of the ceiling in your lab?
:)
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So many benches with just a laptop as PC workstation role. I can't help myself but feel claustrophobic on any screen less than few 26-30" or single 40-43" 4K doing R&D work... :-//
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So many benches with just a laptop as PC workstation role. I can't help myself but feel claustrophobic on any screen less than few 26-30" or single 40-43" 4K doing R&D work... :-//
But just think of how many bits of test gear could fitted in the area of shelf/workbench taken up by such a large screen! HiHi :blah:
Edit VK5RC lab Nth West corner Photo
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I find laptops clunky and clumsy to use compared to regular PCs, mostly because of the attached screen which always seems to be in the way. I'd never choose to use one at the bench. A large screen that sits in one place and takes up little working space and a keyboard/mouse that can be moved completely out of the way if needed is much preferable to me. I guess if you can only have one computer, and also need to move it one from one room to another, a laptop would make sense.
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I have my monitor on the back wall of the bench, which is otherwise unused. Together with a wireless mouse and keyboard it takes zero space away :)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=328151;image)
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Please tell me more about these three spotlights.
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Monitors take up way too much space that could be used for test gear. I originally had a 32 inch monitor mounted in one of the half-racks on my main bench, but ran out of space for equipment. That problem was solved (for the meantime) by mounting the monitor on an arm attached to the wall. It works very well, and I can move the monitor around depending on what I'm working on and easily access to the equipment behind it.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=328251;image)
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Please tell me more about these three spotlights.
Ah yes, those... Halogen down lighters saved from a kitchen, thought they where too cute to just throw away. I should really replace them with LEDs because the light is quite yellow and they consume a lot of power, but well, you now... :-X
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Currently revamping my work repair lab
Phil - Melbourne, Australia.
What is the height of the ceiling in your lab?
:)
it's pretty tall - about 6 metres. I'd like to put in a mezzanine floor one day to make use of the extra space.
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I have my monitor on the back wall of the bench, which is otherwise unused. Together with a wireless mouse and keyboard it takes zero space away :)
Looks like you could make use of the new spot welder that I am developing :D
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/guesses-on-what-i-am-attempting-here/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/guesses-on-what-i-am-attempting-here/)
Now that my workshop room is finished, it is luckily progressing faster.
Before
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/guesses-on-what-i-am-attempting-here/?action=dlattach;attach=323804)
After
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=328510)
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So far we have 111 pages of workbench geek porn, does anyone else think that this is quite normal 8)
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So far we have 111 pages of workbench geek porn, does anyone else think that this is quite normal 8)
No where near enough. How many members are there on the EEVBlog forum?
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So far we have 111 pages of workbench geek porn, does anyone else think that this is quite normal 8)
that is directly correlated with https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/) :o
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So far we have 111 pages of workbench geek porn, does anyone else think that this is quite normal 8)
I enjoy this thread and check it regularly. I intend to contribute soon myself...
Dear EEVBLOG,
I never thought I'd be making a post like this but the I finally got my bench just so...
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I had to post this for the beginners contest, so I thought I'd share
http://imgur.com/a/A2EsL (http://imgur.com/a/A2EsL)
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I had to post this for the beginners contest, so I thought I'd share
I tried the vertical monitor thing on my secondary display, but found that the viewing angle was pretty limited since they normally design for left-right and not up-down. Do IPS monitors behave nicer than older TFT ones?
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I had to post this for the beginners contest, so I thought I'd share
http://imgur.com/a/A2EsL (http://imgur.com/a/A2EsL)
Multimeters velcro'd to a wall! I like this idea! Only, also needs hooks for the coiled leads, since I wouldn't want to have to unplug them all the time.
111 pages of pics of electronics labs. Nice, but here's some non-electronics. My mechanical workshop at the moment. In which I'm finally getting to mount a nice big pneumatically operated gate valve to my vacuum chamber. And soon after that, a turbo pump going on too.
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Vacuum components always stick out like sore thumb :)
COOL...
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Vacuum components always stick out like sore thumb :)
COOL...
Ha ha, you wouldn't think it so cool, if you were the one having to drill eight 8.5mm holes through 12mm thick stainless steel. With a hand electric drill, since the thing is too big to fit in my drill press. Currently doing just the small pilot holes. Arrgh.
In this pic the square bar of plain steel is an alignment jig, since the holes have to be accurately perpendicular to the surface.
So far I didn't break the small pilot bit (5/32") but I expect I will, possibly multiple times. Just got back from buying a 10-pack as a precaution. Getting it to bite takes both hands AND pressing down on the drill with my chest. For those who've never drilled stainless, the trick is: low drill speed, but apply lots of pressure or none at all. No in between, since allowing the drill bit to rotate on the work metal without cutting, almost instantly work hardens the stainless. Which then almost instantly blunts the drill.
Fine control is difficult when you are straining hard.
Edit to add: Btw, if anyone needs big O-rings in Viton (a fluoroelastomer, very inert and withstands high temps), I found that Aliexpress has them for a reasonable price. For eg:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-170mm-x-160mm-x-5mm-Green-Viton-O-Rings-FKM-Hole-Sealings-Gasket-Washer-5pcs/32453184696.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-170mm-x-160mm-x-5mm-Green-Viton-O-Rings-FKM-Hole-Sealings-Gasket-Washer-5pcs/32453184696.html)
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:o :o Dayum!! That does not look like fun in any way, shape or form! Drilling stainless is a female dog for sure. I wish you success.
-Pat
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Ha ha, you wouldn't think it so cool, if you were the one having to drill eight 8.5mm holes through 12mm thick stainless steel. With a hand electric drill, since the thing is too big to fit in my drill press. Currently doing just the small pilot holes. Arrgh.
Everybody needs a hobby. ;D
Btw, if you are drilling holes in stainless steel, I can really recommend these drills, they are excellent:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/331812291571 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/331812291571)
http://www.gewindebohrer.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php/info/p6855_HSSE-Extreme-Drill-Bit-Kit--0-1mm-steps--6---10-mm.html (http://www.gewindebohrer.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php/info/p6855_HSSE-Extreme-Drill-Bit-Kit--0-1mm-steps--6---10-mm.html)
(http://www.gewindebohrer.de/shop/catalog/images/product_images/popup_images/ArtBE6100.jpg)
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Btw, if you are drilling holes in stainless steel, I can really recommend these drills, they are excellent:
http://www.gewindebohrer.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php/info/p6855_HSSE-Extreme-Drill-Bit-Kit--0-1mm-steps--6---10-mm.html (http://www.gewindebohrer.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php/info/p6855_HSSE-Extreme-Drill-Bit-Kit--0-1mm-steps--6---10-mm.html)
Nice drills, and I wish I did have a set going up in 0.1mm steps. BUT... 197 Euro = Au$294.43
My local supplier sells cobalt alloy drills too. Could have bought some this morning but I knew from experience I can drill stainless with ordinary HSS bits. Blunting is not the problem; breaking the bit due to using a drill guide and there only being a few mm between the guide and the drill chuck is the problem. Have to be extremely careful not to tilt the drill.
Anyway, pilot holes all done, no drill bit breakage. Just had to resharpen it every 2nd hole.
Annoyingly, afterwards I realized I'd put the spacer disk on upside down when drilling the initial marker holes using the disk as a template.
I didn't make that disk, and whoever did it wasn't terribly accurate with the hole positions. So when it's flipped over the RIGHT side up, there's a slight misalignment of the holes. Just one more thing to deal with. Annoyed with myself now.
That disk came with the gate valve. It's a bodge job and for that and other reasons I'd have preferred to make a better one, except my lathe can't spin things that size.
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I had to post this for the beginners contest, so I thought I'd share
I tried the vertical monitor thing on my secondary display, but found that the viewing angle was pretty limited since they normally design for left-right and not up-down. Do IPS monitors behave nicer than older TFT ones?
I've never used a TFT monitor. This monitor (Dell U2412M) was my first monitor after having used the CRT also shown. I originally had 1 in horizontal, eventually bought an extra two. I have no issues at any viewing angle, at all.
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Terrahertz, Are you welding up the vacuum chamber yourself?
It's not trivial to get good welds if you want to achieve UHV.
you need to peen and polish the entire inside.
I was going to make my own because I have the equipment, but have now decided to buy one off ebay instead. It's a real challenge even for a good welder.
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Terrahertz, Are you welding up the vacuum chamber yourself?
No, that's beyond my current TIG welding skill level. I was very lucky to be given an excellent, large vacuum chamber for free, from someone who liked the project idea. I've had it for a while, only recently acquired most of the other things required.
It's not trivial to get good welds if you want to achieve UHV.
you need to peen and polish the entire inside.
That's a bit of a sore point. The chamber as received had a lot of assorted metal sputtering residue. In attempting to clean that off (flapper disks, etc) I somewhat messed up the stainless steel surface. It's probably good enough for beginner vacuum ranges, but I may need to fix the surface in future.
I was going to make my own because I have the equipment, but have now decided to buy one off ebay instead. It's a real challenge even for a good welder.
What do you mean by 'have the equipment'? Pulsed TIG, backing shield gas accessories, heat-control jigs... I'm still trying to get to the point where I can weld thin sheet stainless at all. It would be nice to be able to weld up stainless vacuum plumbing, but I think I'd never have the dexterity & hand precision, and would have to improvise fully automated welding jigs.
The trouble with ebay vacuum chambers is the price, even for small ones. I shudder to think what my one must have cost to make.
Anyway, the gate valve mounting is done. But there are a few more related bits to complete, not to mention the big viton O-rings that will take weeks to get here.
I *really* need a bigger lathe. Having to compromise of size of stuff, so I can machine it myself, sucks.
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Vacuum components always stick out like sore thumb :)
COOL...
Ha ha, you wouldn't think it so cool, if you were the one having to drill eight 8.5mm holes through 12mm thick stainless steel. With a hand electric drill, since the thing is too big to fit in my drill press. Currently doing just the small pilot holes. Arrgh.
In this pic the square bar of plain steel is an alignment jig, since the holes have to be accurately perpendicular to the surface.
So far I didn't break the small pilot bit (5/32") but I expect I will, possibly multiple times. Just got back from buying a 10-pack as a precaution. Getting it to bite takes both hands AND pressing down on the drill with my chest. For those who've never drilled stainless, the trick is: low drill speed, but apply lots of pressure or none at all. No in between, since allowing the drill bit to rotate on the work metal without cutting, almost instantly work hardens the stainless. Which then almost instantly blunts the drill.
Fine control is difficult when you are straining hard.
Edit to add: Btw, if anyone needs big O-rings in Viton (a fluoroelastomer, very inert and withstands high temps), I found that Aliexpress has them for a reasonable price. For eg:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-170mm-x-160mm-x-5mm-Green-Viton-O-Rings-FKM-Hole-Sealings-Gasket-Washer-5pcs/32453184696.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-170mm-x-160mm-x-5mm-Green-Viton-O-Rings-FKM-Hole-Sealings-Gasket-Washer-5pcs/32453184696.html)
Yah I know about drilling in stainless...
It's a bitch even on a good day.
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I present my humble workbench, it is a little empty, but it is only a few months since I started it, Greetings from Peru :-DMM \$\Omega\$ \$\Omega\$
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the wife doing they will be going out soon |O
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Antigravity chickens?
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Antigravity chickens?
bro, you're in Australia so you think its just upside down to you.
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I present my humble workbench, it is a little empty, but it is only a few months since I started it, Greetings from Peru :-DMM
Looks good! :-+
Is the remote for the TV under the red blanket? ;)
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Antigravity chickens?
bro, you're in Australia so you think its just upside down to you.
Ah, I forgot about that. I just checked via VPN into UK and its right way up.
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Antigravity chickens?
bro, you're in Australia so you think its just upside down to you.
Ah, I forgot about that. I just checked via VPN into UK and its right way up.
Not. Hi-tech chickens. Instead of wifi or bluetooth they "kikirikou" readings of a 8 1/2 digits bench DMM! Next century technology approaching! ^-^
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I tried the vertical monitor thing on my secondary display, but found that the viewing angle was pretty limited since they normally design for left-right and not up-down. Do IPS monitors behave nicer than older TFT ones?
All LCD monitors are TFT (thin film transistor). The panels with narrow viewing angle are TN (twisted nematic). It's not a matter of old vs new - you can still buy TN, IPS, and VA monitors.
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I present my humble workbench, it is a little empty, but it is only a few months since I started it, Greetings from Peru :-DMM
Looks good! :-+
Is the remote for the TV under the red blanket? ;)
:-+ ^-^ :P
It is for my TV that is next to my workbench (not show in the picture), under the red blanket is my little stereo music :o ;D :D
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It is for my TV that is next to my workbench (not show in the picture), under the red blanket is my little stereo music :o ;D :D
I see. :D
Selfmade power supplies? The upper one is a reworked atx supply. And the lower one is also a selfmade PS?
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It is for my TV that is next to my workbench (not show in the picture), under the red blanket is my little stereo music :o ;D :D
I see. :D
Selfmade power supplies? The upper one is a reworked atx supply. And the lower one is also a selfmade PS?
Yes, it is my diy power supply of 0-30 V and 0-3 A. I made it 6 years ago, and it still works perfectly.
Do you have any pictures of your workbench?
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Micro bench, work in progress.
Got back into electronics recently, mostly microcontroller stuff, scored some instek stuff on ebay earlier in the year.
Downsized from massive desks to classier looking stuff so have to figure out how to squeeze some more stuff in. Most tools and stuff is now in the shed or closet in an automotive rolling cart.
Not optimal, I have some ideas to make the "bench" more bench like and add more space.
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Yes, it is my diy power supply of 0-30 V and 0-3 A. I made it 6 years ago, and it still works perfectly.
Up to 3 amps, excellent! :-+
Do you have any pictures of your workbench?
There is a picture I made some years ago, after I moved into a new room. Some testgear changed over time ... I sold the Uni-T DMM and got an Agilent 34401 and a Siglent SDM3045x.
The workbench is DIY and the components seed trays are on a carousel. (There was not enough space left on the walls.)
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hammy, what is that fascinating rackmount thing?
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hammy, what is that fascinating rackmount thing?
This unit was build during my 3,5 years vocational training. It evolved over time. (More than 20 years ago I had an electronics technician in-firm training. It was quite normal back then to learn a job after completion of school education. After some time in my job I moved on and went to university.)
We had to build serveral devices during this training to learn the basics: combination lock with logic ICs, transmission of sound with infrared emitter and receiver, transistor circuits ...
From right to left:
Power Supply 30V/1,5A
Fixed Voltage Supply (several voltages between 5V and 32V)
Signal generator sine and square wave
Semiconductor tester (npn, pnp, led)
Backplane extension
Logic level test unit
And the last one was a never finished battery monitor
The 19" chassis was also made by us. Basics in fine mechanics was also part of my education.
After our final exam we took this masterpiece home. Like a piece of evidence for our knowledge. Oh boy, I was young and I though "I know it all now" ... :palm:
However, I made it from ground-up, I'm still a little bit proud of it ... :-//
Cheers
hammy
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hammy, what is that fascinating rackmount thing?
This unit was build during my 3,5 years vocational training. It evolved over time. (More than 20 years ago I had an electronics technician in-firm training. It was quite normal back then to learn a job after completion of school education. After some time in my job I moved on and went to university.)
We had to build serveral devices during this training to learn the basics: combination lock with logic ICs, transmission of sound with infrared emitter and receiver, transistor circuits ...
From right to left:
Power Supply 30V/1,5A
Fixed Voltage Supply (several voltages between 5V and 32V)
Signal generator sine and square wave
Semiconductor tester (npn, pnp, led)
Backplane extension
Logic level test unit
And the last one was a never finished battery monitor
The 19" chassis was also made by us. Basics in fine mechanics was also part of my education.
After our final exam we took this masterpiece home. Like a piece of evidence for our knowledge. Oh boy, I was young and I though "I know it all now" ... :palm:
However, I made it from ground-up, I'm still a little bit proud of it ... :-//
Cheers
hammy
congratulations, your workbench seems very good, There is much for what you must be proud, excellent work
I hope soon to have a soldering station like yours
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@hammy, that is something to be proud of. In amateur radio circles people who just buy stuff are called 'appliance operators'- a bit mean.
If you build it, you know all its strengths and weaknesses.
Robert
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My lab, a bit cluttered and full but mine none the less. This is after one year officially into the hobby of electronics in general.
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On the power supply shelf those blue blocks can put out 20 amps at 23 volts EACH they weigh 40 pounds each. The pretty meters are a, as of yet unfinished, adjustable 10 amp RMS supply with 50,000 uf doing the filtering, it weighs another 15 pounds. So the total weight on the shelf is only 120 pounds or so, its smiling not sagging i promise! The shelf above my desk is actually a tv stand and the desk, while small, was free.
Also in rows from left to right,
Simpson 415A on top of a home made power supply i made out of trash parts and a VCR and on the shelf below that is the HP 5340A (a work in progress)
Homemade power supply, i didn't make it i got it at auction and on the shelf below that is Fairchild 7050 3.5 digit NTVM.
Surge protector functioning as current tap, and on the desk is my Metcal soldering iron to the left a home made 0-26V 5 amp adjustable supply and to the right a variac.
Another surge protector functioning as current tap, 25 cd file type player; then next shelf down, 23V 20A power supply (blue) 10A unregulated 12-13.8V power supply then next shelf down, Instek GDM-8020H function generator, Bel Merit fc-200 frequency counter, Hitachi v-1065A 'scope; next shelf home made clock; next shelf hp 608C
Home made VU meter, 10A 12V supply, homemade adjustable 10A supply (not yet finished); next shelf, Fluke 8000a DMM, Fluke 8010A DMM, Pioneer dual tape deck, Sherwood receiver; next shelf Chinese power supply with no brand
Another 23V 10A supply; next shelf Instek GDM-8034 DMM that is kind of a flake performance wise but it does prove every meter i got is reasonably calibrated.
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Neo, nice going!
However that shelf is not smiling, it's sagging. I mention this only to ask, have you considered the failure mode? If that one fails, the impact weight will likely take out the shelf below it too. It won't be pretty.
Perhaps add some reinforcing, if replacing the shelf with something more solid isn't feasible?
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I'm open to suggestions, i can't do under the shelf support due to the shelf below it being full and i quite like the way that shelf below it is set up. I just said it was smiling as a joke, easier than saying "I have little clue what to do here."
To be fair though the camera does kind of exaggerate the sag and the shelf is rated for 200 pounds.
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In case you are wondering what i mean by officially entered the hobby i went to an auction and bought about 80 years of a, deceased, naval engineers collection dating all the way back to the 30s. It was at that point i decided i was into electronics for better or worse.
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You could reduce the sag considerably by distributing the weight more evenly. A sheet of high quality plywood (at least 9 layers), cut to fit and placed on top of the shelf should help.
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Lab update 8) New k2400 SMU, Marconi power meter, Datron 7.5 DMM and so on
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Lab update 8) New k2400 SMU, Marconi power meter, Datron 7.5 DMM and so on
Looks like you reached the ceiling - excellent! :-+
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I'm open to suggestions, i can't do under the shelf support due to the shelf below it being full and i quite like the way that shelf below it is set up. I just said it was smiling as a joke, easier than saying "I have little clue what to do here."
To be fair though the camera does kind of exaggerate the sag and the shelf is rated for 200 pounds.
Finally someone else using a Costco shelf. I took two and remove the top 2 shelves and put a 4x6 board on top of them to make a standing table (it rocks). I also took two and turned them 90 degrees and put 8 foot boards on them for more shelf space with a 6 foot Costco folding table between them as my sit down table. No screws or nails. I used a 2x3x8 foot stud across the top and zipped tied a Costco LED shop light to it.
I am amazed how much weight these shelves hold. I also built a "shed" in my driveway using these shelves as walls and 12' studs for as roof joists. Zip ties hold the whole thing together. I raised those shelves up by one level so I could walk under it. So they have become my go to construction material. For the roof I used billboard vinyl from eBay. It has stood up to a lot of winter storms. The heavy stuff on the shelves keeps the shed from blowing away.
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Hi, my lil corner of the World. Do all sorts of things in here. It is one of 5 different areas, the others are for metalworking, woodworking and restoring and building old cars and other hobbies.
Enjoy this forum tremendously, thank ya all.
Groetnis
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Hi, my lil corner of the World. Do all sorts of things in here. It is one of 5 different areas, the others are for metalworking, woodworking and restoring and building old cars and other hobbies.
Enjoy this forum tremendously, thank ya all.
Groetnis
Can I ask where you got that nice ruled cutting mat?
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wanger, what is that shallow cabinet you have? The grey plastic one.
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I'm open to suggestions, i can't do under the shelf support due to the shelf below it being full and i quite like the way that shelf below it is set up. I just said it was smiling as a joke, easier than saying "I have little clue what to do here."
To be fair though the camera does kind of exaggerate the sag and the shelf is rated for 200 pounds.
Finally someone else using a Costco shelf. I took two and remove the top 2 shelves and put a 4x6 board on top of them to make a standing table (it rocks). I also took two and turned them 90 degrees and put 8 foot boards on them for more shelf space with a 6 foot Costco folding table between them as my sit down table. No screws or nails. I used a 2x3x8 foot stud across the top and zipped tied a Costco LED shop light to it.
I am amazed how much weight these shelves hold. I also built a "shed" in my driveway using these shelves as walls and 12' studs for as roof joists. Zip ties hold the whole thing together. I raised those shelves up by one level so I could walk under it. So they have become my go to construction material. For the roof I used billboard vinyl from eBay. It has stood up to a lot of winter storms. The heavy stuff on the shelves keeps the shed from blowing away.
Between zip ties, duct tape and a little bit of creativity i have found most problems to vanish. This shelf is held to the wall with zip ties, it has surge protectors zip tied to it, the VU meter is zip tied in place and my function generator is zip tied to my oscilloscope because i got tired of it moving. Actually i got it from Sutherlands, a hardware store, but nothing says it isn't just a re-branded cost co shelf.
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It an A3 cutting mat by Humbrol: https://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/shop/accessories/a3-cutting-mat.html (https://www.humbrol.com/uk-en/shop/accessories/a3-cutting-mat.html)
The desktop grey cabinet is an A4 paper filer of unknown origins, does not have a name and I got it second hand.
Rgrds
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My updated lab bench after having moved to a new apartment last week (hence the clean desk and not wanting to hook up my 10MHz frequency standard distribution network). I will be moving again to an actual house in about a year so I am still sticking with the foldable desk until then. There are pieces of wood (2x4) which act as supports for the heavy equipment on the left side.
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My updated lab bench after having moved to a new apartment last week (hence the clean desk and not wanting to hook up my 10MHz frequency standard distribution network). I will be moving again to an actual house in about a year so I am still sticking with the foldable desk until then. There are pieces of wood (2x4) which act as supports for the heavy equipment on the left side.
Might I ask where you obtained the blue covered parts bins from? They look like old floppy disk sorters. i have never come across shelf sorters with covers.
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My updated lab bench after having moved to a new apartment last week (hence the clean desk and not wanting to hook up my 10MHz frequency standard distribution network). I will be moving again to an actual house in about a year so I am still sticking with the foldable desk until then. There are pieces of wood (2x4) which act as supports for the heavy equipment on the left side.
Might I ask where you obtained the blue covered parts bins from? They look like old floppy disk sorters. i have never come across shelf sorters with covers.
They are called Akro-bins (https://akro-mils.com/Products/Types/Plastic-Storage-Containers/AkroBins) and I believe I got them from Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Akro-Mils-30235-Plastic-Storage-Stacking/dp/B000Q5Z180/) along with the lid accessory (https://www.amazon.com/Akro-Mils-30236CRY-AkroBin-Crystal-6-Pack/dp/B00B5S2V30/) in a package of 6 units. They are nice to use for segregating ongoing projects.
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Since now are holidays, I'm back in my hometown. Therefor I don't have a lot of stuff. Feels like starting the hobby all over again, working with scrap and using more or less shitty gear. Plus my lab here is split in two. One in the garage to do soldering and mechanical stuff plus stash for bulkier things and in the apartment, were I do programming and some small parts are stashed.
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Hi all,
that's my little corner for feeling of happy satisfaction and enjoyment (or not). ;D
After decades of being an application programmer and network admin i conquer here myself my earlier hardware knowledge back and learn the new stuff from today.
The workbench is not emf ready. A lot of switching power supplies and wlan routers are hanging around under the table. That's very counterproductive to measure out something like voltage references or others, must think about it. But what we will do with a lot of pizerow's esp32's and other stuff like this...
But for now, i'm involved with modern opamp's, kx references and voltage dividers, output buffers and related protections, meaning to learn about them... ^-^
Thanks all for the good stuff you put in here, and specially to dave&dave :-+
(in hope, that ends up not too expensive to me...)
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I don't know if I've posted photos of my home or work(1) workbenches, but here's my current work(2) bench (attached):
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Whats going on up on that top shelf there?
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Whats going on up on that top shelf there?
The good dubbies. I could not resist :-DD
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Hi all,
that's my little corner for feeling of happy satisfaction and enjoyment (or not). ;D
looks like a nice place to learn! what kind of desk lamp is that, i like it!
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Hi all,
that's my little corner for feeling of happy satisfaction and enjoyment (or not). ;D
looks like a nice place to learn! what kind of desk lamp is that, i like it!
Yes, learning and prototyping, in this order. ;)
The lamp is made quick and dirty with some aluprofiles, very cheap 10W led modules, a cheap 3A buck converter, silicon wires, an old laptop power supply and a sonoff module. But it needs a glass diffusor. ;D
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My work bench in the garage got a minor upgrade today, I installed a 300 x 400 mm shelf for my soldering / desoldering station - this just gives me that bit extra room on my work bench. Note I just need to get a proper anti static mat.
(https://i.imgur.com/nUJIFGX.jpg)
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nicely done! thank you for the details
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Whats going on up on that top shelf there?
Asking me? In my photo, the top shelf has four scintillator and photomultiplier muon detector assemblies.
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... the top shelf has four scintillator and photomultiplier muon detector assemblies.
Nice! What do you power them with? don't they need high voltage like most tubes?
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Whats going on up on that top shelf there?
Asking me? In my photo, the top shelf has four scintillator and photomultiplier muon detector assemblies.
Are those assemblies selfmade ?
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... the top shelf has four scintillator and photomultiplier muon detector assemblies.
Nice! What do you power them with? don't they need high voltage like most tubes?
They do, but these ( http://cosmic.lbl.gov/documentation/P30CW5_iss01.pdf (http://cosmic.lbl.gov/documentation/P30CW5_iss01.pdf) ) have a PMT base in the package that has a built in HV power supply. It gets +5v and a control voltage of 0-1.2 or so, and produces 1000x the input voltage for the tube. Typical operating input voltage on these is about 0.6 to 0.8 volts (600 to 800 v to the tubes). Way easier than running HV to each tube, and still having to individually dial them in.
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Whats going on up on that top shelf there?
Asking me? In my photo, the top shelf has four scintillator and photomultiplier muon detector assemblies.
Are those assemblies selfmade ?
Student made, from parts supplied by Fermilab (through a program called QuarkNet). This set had been assembled before, though we've had the paddles apart for maintenance. I think original assembly may have included fine polishing the scintillator edges, but the light guide 'cookie' was already attached with optical epoxy. The PMTs are attached to the cookies with PVC pipe to locate them, and optical grease to make a good connection. Then you have to take some steps to make them completely light tight, as even a pinhole leak makes it nonfunctional.
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That's a really nice pmt jimdeane. I was looking at the Hamamatsu ones for building a spectrum analyser, but this style looks much nicer.
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out with the chickens in with my new printer, it took a while to build but its done anet a8, the prints are relay good better than expected
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out with the chickens in with my new printer, it took a while to build but its done anet a8, the prints are relay good better than expected
Man, they've come a long way since I built mine in 2013 -- mine can't print sideways. :)
Is the print bed heated? What kind of surface is on it?
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That's a really nice pmt jimdeane. I was looking at the Hamamatsu ones for building a spectrum analyser, but this style looks much nicer.
Gamma spectrum analyzer? We should talk. I have a drawer with a few old pmts, a few spare chunks of scintillator, and a burning desire to analyze gamma spectra. Would make a neat adjunct to just using a geiger counter when I teach radiation topics.
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yes its heated bed it is just masking tape, i give it a wipe with iso alcohol and the wife`s hair spray never had a problem made a clip to hold a pcb marker pen and a head for my sons surf pi metal detector and a few mods for it, eg the cooling fan and line feeder and the button for the cable release, i built it and it worked fine straight away
as for the pictures they are fine till i upload them dunno why it is changing the orientation
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as for the pictures they are fine till i upload them dunno why it is changing the orientation
I thought you were doing gravity experiments.
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as for the pictures they are fine till i upload them dunno why it is changing the orientation
yeah I've found Windows and many other systems (macOS is usually fine) ignore the EXIF data stored in the image which dictates the image orientation and instead display the image as it's stored. The easy way to fix this is open the image in a paint program and manually rotate it to the correct orientation.
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Or use the very excellent and freeware irfanview graphics manipulation tool. http://www.irfanview.com/ (http://www.irfanview.com/)
Great way to resize, recode, rotate, strip EXIF fingerprints, etc. Also has the ability to do batch operations on whole folders of images.
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I'm in the process of reorganizing this room, cleaned up the bench last night (the big Akro-Mils component drawers are new). Everything else is in a chaotic state though. Most of my equipment is ghetto but it gets the job done (ish)
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Cool, dos. I like the towel-holder cable rack. Nice vintage Apple and Amiga goodness there too.
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Cool, dos. I like the towel-holder cable rack. Nice vintage Apple and Amiga goodness there too.
Thanks, old computers and game stuff is my main hobby (there's a ton more not in the pictures) which kinda naturally lead me to electronics. Someone on a different forum said retro games/computers is this generation's equivalent to radio hobbyists and I kinda agree, I see a ton of people in my hobby getting into electronics out of necessity and finding out they really enjoy it. I enjoyed it so much I went back to school at 33 and am looking to make it a career, it's way more fulfilling than what I do now (IT)
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Someone on a different forum said retro games/computers is this generation's equivalent to radio hobbyists and I kinda agree, I see a ton of people in my hobby getting into electronics out of necessity and finding out they really enjoy it.
That's an interesting perspective. I hadn't thought about it, but I can see that similarity.
I enjoyed it so much I went back to school at 33 and am looking to make it a career, it's way more fulfilling than what I do now (IT)
I do hear that rather often, especially from those in IT. I wonder if there has been a sufficient increase in hardware jobs to accommodate the transitioners.
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That's an interesting perspective. I hadn't thought about it, but I can see that similarity.
Yeah, I don't know too much about radio guys but I assume a lot of them naturally had to learn electronics as a consequence of having a ton of old (and temperamental) gear, now there's this vintage computing/gaming hobby that's becoming pretty popular and having a similar effect. It's really crazy how it's caught on, when I started around the mid 90's there were only some small corners of the internet devoted to it and just about everything could be had insanely cheap at flea markets and thrift stores etc, which is how I got most of my stuff. Now people are paying absolutely insane prices for these old systems and there are youtube "celebrities" making tons of cash for talking about old video games. It's frustrating in one way because sometimes you wish the new people would just use an emulators or something and stop driving up prices but on the other hand it's awesome to see something you felt really weird for being into get almost mainstream acceptance (as mainstream as nerd crap gets anyway).
I wonder what old gear weird people will be hoarding and maintaining in another 50 years, maybe you'll see people posting photos of a wall of iphones or something next to their augmented reality interface nano soldering bench
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I wonder what old gear weird people will be hoarding and maintaining in another 50 years, ...
Are you calling some of us weird?
Well ... you might be right. :-DD
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From cheap and cheerful to weird and wonderful. It's all good.
Until our currently weird stuff becomes valuable, I guess my next ad-bench-ure is local lighting over the work area. I don't yet have an LCD monitor with a broken LCD whose backlight I could scavenge. I have seen some nice uses of LED strips, though.
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From cheap and cheerful to weird and wonderful. It's all good.
Until our currently weird stuff becomes valuable, I guess my next ad-bench-ure is local lighting over the work area. I don't yet have an LCD monitor with a broken LCD whose backlight I could scavenge. I have seen some nice uses of LED strips, though.
I used those cheap adhesive LED strips you can find on Ebay under two of my risers - over the ham radios and the test equip. They do the job. Plus if you like to party in your lab they can do slowly changing colors. :-DD
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I wonder what old gear weird people will be hoarding and maintaining in another 50 years, ...
Are you calling some of us weird?
Well ... you might be right. :-DD
Hey, if the shoe fits.... :P
As for rising prices, it makes me nuts to look at some of the websites out there that show the old HP stuff that several of us here are into, and see things like nixie frequency counters that went for $15-30 + shipping on the 'bay as recently as 8-10 years ago. |O
Why couldn't my interest in electronics as a hobby have reignited itself a few years earlier than it did?!? :wtf:
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From cheap and cheerful to weird and wonderful. It's all good.
Until our currently weird stuff becomes valuable, I guess my next ad-bench-ure is local lighting over the work area. I don't yet have an LCD monitor with a broken LCD whose backlight I could scavenge. I have seen some nice uses of LED strips, though.
I wound up using some LED strips that I'd purchased with the intention of using them under the kitchen cabinets, but wound up putting them on the bench as I needed lighting and the kitchen's (still! ::) ) nowhere near being done. They're nice, but rather expensive compared to simply using a self adhesive strip of them. (Of course the strips weren't as readily available six years ago when I bought these, either...) Having them be plug-and-play was convenient; I simply stuck things under the rails with double sided foam tape and was good to go. Reach under the top shelf of the bench and push the switch once for bright, a second time for dim and a third time to shut them off.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Electronics/Bench-lighting/i-HVmZRmX/0/362b3fc7/L/Bench%20light%20-%20light%20strip%20PS%20and%20switch-L.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Electronics/Bench-lighting/i-MDCNDh5/0/f9767ad1/L/Bench%20light%20-%20overall%20-L.jpg)
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I wonder what old gear weird people will be hoarding and maintaining in another 50 years, ...
Are you calling some of us weird?
Well ... you might be right. :-DD
I'm calling myself weird, whether it applies to you only you know ;D
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Thanks for the bench lighting examples. I may start out with some cheapo strips and see how they turn out (or on, as the case may be).
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Thanks for the bench lighting examples. I may start out with some cheapo strips and see how they turn out (or on, as the case may be).
Don't forget to bung one under your workbench.
Helps you to easily see any small parts you may have dropped.
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Put some on shelfs too. Helps finding stuff. I definitly need to put some under my workbench
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Put some on shelfs too. Helps finding stuff. I definitly need to put some under my workbench
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While you are at it you may as well strap some to your arms as well! :-DD
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https://m.banggood.com/Fishing-Glove-LED-luminous-Men-Outdoor-Auto-Repair-Lighting-Artifact-Half-Finger-Glove-p-1064000.html?rmmds=search
I like the idea of such "Glove lights". I might just buy them for fun.
No need to wrap youreself into led lights [emoji14] But if you do, I recommend RGB :D
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Yes, lots of lights everywhere! The under-bench ones are also useful since the workbench depth allows for storage of repair queue items.
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Replaced the closet with an electronics workbench in the den. Fold-down table for solder/rework in the garage.
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Nice kilt you've stuck to the wall! :)
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Nice gear - but no power supply?
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Nice gear - but no power supply?
I can see two Rigol DP832 PSUs on the left side of the first shelf. However, the tartan wallpaper would drive me nuts.
McBryce.
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I can see two Rigol DP832 PSUs on the left side of the first shelf. However, the tartan wallpaper would drive me nuts.
Perhaps adding some "Prilblumen" will improve? ;D
And for those, who do not know what a "Prilblume" is:
(http://www.henkel.de/image/396604/uncropped/1357/960/297add09dc569826cc79246049f48d47/cJ/pril-blume-jpg.jpg)
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Aaarrgggh, my eyes!! Make it go away!
McBryce.
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My now finished "holiday lab". With a PM3251, a TS100 powered by a 16V laptop PSU, Fluke 8050A, SDG1025, PE1540. In the cabinet there is a Fluke 25.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170816/880cac28420d5eba66cac09553f68c54.jpg)
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Nice gear - but no power supply?
I can see two Rigol DP832 PSUs on the left side of the first shelf. However, the tartan wallpaper would drive me nuts.
Ah, just the edges. Well spotted!
The Scott in me loves the tartan. After all, if it's not Scottish, it's .... ;D
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...However, the tartan wallpaper would drive me nuts.
Helps distract me from those voices in my head.
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And for those, who do not know what a "Prilblume" is:
(http://www.henkel.de/image/396604/uncropped/1357/960/297add09dc569826cc79246049f48d47/cJ/pril-blume-jpg.jpg)
omg :palm:
All german >50y remembers ... :-DD
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Helps distract me from those voices in my head.
Some nice stuff in there :-+
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And for those, who do not know what a "Prilblume" is:
omg :palm:
All german >50y remembers ... :-DD
And the younger ones which have seen them on the tiles, in the kitchen of their grand parents ^^
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And for those, who do not know what a "Prilblume" is:
omg :palm:
All german >50y remembers ... :-DD
And the younger ones which have seen them on the tiles, in the kitchen of their grand parents ^^
The german answer to woodstock ;D
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Here's a link to a few imgur albums of my current setup (will be changing in a move soon no idea what I'm gonna end up with overall)
http://imgur.com/a/Vt3eY (http://imgur.com/a/Vt3eY)
http://imgur.com/a/boAlI (http://imgur.com/a/boAlI)
A few other images under my profile of miscellaneous little projects.
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Have only been into electronics for a couple of years, but this is what my living room looks like right now, in the middle of a project :D
http://i.imgur.com/qJVmlBW.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/qJVmlBW.jpg)
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Have only been into electronics for a couple of years, but this is what my living room looks like right now, in the middle of a project :D
http://i.imgur.com/qJVmlBW.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/qJVmlBW.jpg)
Linnmon, Omar, Helmer and a Surface Pro 4... Very similar to my man cave setup :)
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nice simple yet functional setup, i like it!
Have only been into electronics for a couple of years, but this is what my living room looks like right now, in the middle of a project :D
http://i.imgur.com/qJVmlBW.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/qJVmlBW.jpg)
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Keithley 3706 system switch / multimeter :)
ooops, this should be in the other thread, sorry :(
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Replaced the closet with an electronics workbench in the den. Fold-down table for solder/rework in the garage.
FieldFox :-+ :-+ :-+
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Mmmmmmmmm FieldFox. - don't like the price though. Nice set up jhenderson. :-+
- but how come you guys' benches are so neat! Where are all your cables, connectors, adapters, cutters, solder and general stuff?
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well, this will be my work space...eventually.
i do need to think seriously about how to keep it insulated and damp free.
tough when its only going to be a 'wiggly tin' roof.
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well, this will be my work space...eventually.
i do need to think seriously about how to keep it insulated and damp free.
tough when its only going to be a 'wiggly tin' roof.
You might want to look into the following:- Rigid Foam Insulation, then cover with heavy duty plastic sheeting to seal out moisture. Not sure where you're located, but I suspect this would be the less expensive option.
- DIY Spray Foam Insulation Kit
Install some wood strips directly to the brick in order to attach a wall covering (peg board sheet, laminate sheet, or sheet rock/drywall for example).
There's also paints/coatings that are made for sealing brick and concrete walls & floors that might eliminate the need for plastic sheet.
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much my thinking at the moment.
first point is to get the windows and roof on.
my hope is to use board insulation on the roof as it will be easier to fit that way.
Then depending on costs glad the roof with a cavity for insulation to go into. but that is no small job.
nice to know i wasnt too far off.
(based in the UK BTW - nice and damp)
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@little_grey
i'm missing a scope ;D
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@little_grey
i'm missing a scope ;D
Stored safely at work for the moment. Plus lunch time tinkering :D
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Make sure to test the old paint for lead! There is a product called "lead-chek" which is basically an ampoule containing two liquids you break, then it saturates a small brush you can brush over old paint on things.
If there is lead it turns a bright magenta.
If there is lead in the paint around the old window area you should follow lead abatement procedures to remove it before adding to the building because if you dont once you build the new structure's roof it will be harder to do it safely.
Lead paint is very common in older buildings and it tended to be used around window frames, etc.
You probably are okay but its smart to check.
On your original question.. what is the climate there? Also, if it gets direct sunlight, you may want to have a white roof or a light colored roof, because of the heat. You could probably paint metal white and get much less heat absorption.
Also, (now see that you are in UK) watch out for mold!
Make sure any place you plan to spend a lot of time is healthy.
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A very good shout on the lead paint.
It had half crossed my mind,particularly with the roof being (previously) asbesdos which was professionally removed.
Here is hoping that it's just masonry paint.
But as you say better sorted now rather than later.
To stop pulling stuff off topic I'll start my own thread after the weekend
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buildingscience.com is a useful resource.
The "building envelope" is the official border between indoors and outdoors.
In my own experience its good if you can agree ahead of time on the building envelope's location and then stick to it. Health problems most often emerge when that border isn't clearly defined..
Here you are potentially adding some additional space to the "indoor" part of the building, or are you?
Make sure you get that straight. How will it be heated? Cooled? You're likely to need more insulation if you get direct sun or get particularly cold weather too. Also, what about drying of walls. Concrete and brick are both somewhat porous, that means if they get wet they need to dry out, how will they dry out?
In the old days most buildings were very drafty and they had so many holes air could just blow in and out through them, but now thats too expensive so buildings are getting better and better sealed. That can potentially cause problems with moisture and condensation.
Carefully consider what happens if you add anything that acts like a vapor barrier. Also, dont put carpeting on a concrete floor without insulation. Where will there be condensation, and where will it go? Also when water falls off the roof, where will it go, good if it can be channeled a bit of a distance away.
What happens if it rains. What happens if it rains a lot. What happens if branches fall. What happens if its really cold or really hot.
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... - but how come you guys' benches are so neat! Where are all your cables, connectors, adapters, cutters, solder and general stuff?
It's a disease.
When in the wood shop, I restore tools to their bin though they may be needed for a pending task. I clear my bench prior to working on each new project. I think it reduces frustration.
Most cohabitants (such as my son) disagree.
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It's a disease.
Yes and no. In my opinion its a question of frequent business and available free storage space. If my workbench is "clean", i have nothing to do, but that's never going to happen :D
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Lead paint is not really dangerous unless you eat it. If anything, it will reduce EM radiation :D More seriously, the lead in your solder and old equipment is much more likely to harm your health if not dealt with with enough care. I would be more concerned about asbestos in the cement or maybe bricks. Have they been tested? Drilling a fixture can suddenly turn into a potentially hazardous situation, even though you have less to worry about when you're past age 50. It would still be nice to safely show your children or grandchildren your projects.
Maybe it would make a good topic for a thread. How much of a danger is lead really and what can you do to protect yourself while enjoying electronics as a hobby?
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The problem with lead in paint was mainly young children chewing on windowsills and such which had been painted white with the pigment being mostly "white lead" (Lead carbonate). I don't think white lead was used much as a pigment after the sixties, except maybe some niche applications. I started in the paint business in the mid eighties and never saw lead pigment be used. The industry had already switched to Titanium dioxide which was actually a better white pigment anyway.
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The problem with lead in paint was mainly young children chewing on windowsills and such which had been painted white with the pigment being mostly "white lead" (Lead carbonate). I don't think white lead was used much as a pigment after the sixties, except maybe some niche applications. I started in the paint business in the mid eighties and never saw lead pigment be used. The industry had already switched to Titanium dioxide which was actually a better white pigment anyway.
Lead flakes are apparently sweet, which is obviously a risk for young children. However, if you have properly painted sills and no flaking paint, the risk should be fairly minimal. Attempting to take it all off and causing huge piles of lead rich dust might be much more dangerous.
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Some governmental advice on lead paint.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/advice-on-lead-paint-in-older-homes (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/advice-on-lead-paint-in-older-homes)
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Jim William's bench picture, Amazon sells a jigsaw puzzle of it. (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jim+williams+puzzle) "Jim Williams' Linear Technology Famous Bench Jigsaw Puzzle", I stumbled onto it.
I think most of us could find anything in that and solve it in minutes. It's actually organized.
Brings tears to my eyes though :'( bless his soul
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I think most of us could find anything in that and solve it in minutes. It's actually organized.
Yep, it would be surprisingly easy to put together.
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I think most of us could find anything in that and solve it in minutes. It's actually organized.
Yep, it would be surprisingly easy to put together.
it would be fun to hang in the office, though.
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Its surprising how many smart people I've met who have "very densely populated" desk spaces.
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When i've looked for it it seems it only shows up in places where it was used to add durability in adverse weather and use situations. For example, where I live now, there is old lead paint in the lowest layer of trim around my garage door, but nowhere else
Often its buried under several layers of newer paint which is good. that reduces its shedding of dust.
It was often used in weather exposed trim like around windows.
Quote from: rdl on 2017-08-26, 09:40:35 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1288609#msg1288609)The problem with lead in paint was mainly young children chewing on windowsills and such which had been painted white with the pigment being mostly "white lead" (Lead carbonate). I don't think white lead was used much as a pigment after the sixties, except maybe some niche applications. I started in the paint business in the mid eighties and never saw lead pigment be used. The industry had already switched to Titanium dioxide which was actually a better white pigment anyway.
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Its surprising how many smart people I've met who have "very densely populated" desk spaces.
That might not be surprising.
A study by the University of Minnesota suggests, that the messy desk of geniuses is actually linked to their intelligence. If you don't spend much time cleaning and organizing everything around you, your mind is obviously occupied with more important stuff.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/intelligent-people-tend-to-be-messy-stay-awake-longer-and-swear-more-a7174256.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/intelligent-people-tend-to-be-messy-stay-awake-longer-and-swear-more-a7174256.html)
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I actually went through this entire thread, for ideas about organizing my space. (I'm not great at organizing.) Anyway, I thought I'd post my space after I took a shot at reorganizing it.
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Soon year of hanging around forum so maybe time to come out of closet. In past I had two lab spaces focused on low freq EM physics experimentation. All emphasis was on projects, very little interest in actual T&M gear. Then I had to pack it all up and keep low profile in small apartment to channel finances into acquiring some more permanent real estate. It has not gone well because in small space with no room for projects T&M sickness has kicked in :-DMM In about half year when finally unpack boxes in new lab v3 there will be much more interesting picture on shelves to inspect :P
Until then some pics from archives, only accidental pic of lab v1, but compensate with some mess on desk:
Lab v0 on kitchen table... Friend visited and after some :popcorn: well working reed switch pulse motor emerged :-+
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=346262)
Soon there was lab v1:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=346264)
And some more pulse motor projects:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=346266)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=346282)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=346268)
After some years lab v2 (excuse stuffed puppy, I was forced to place it there :-[):
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=346270)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=346272)
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You've got some mighty fine toys there! I have a bit of the same problem, just not enough room for a nice lab.
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You've got some mighty fine toys there! I have a bit of the same problem, just not enough room for a nice lab.
Thanks, think will eventually solve room problem with lab v4 ::) About 100m2 should settle it :D v3 will be about 12m2, much same size as previous ones but it will be at least mine this time, not in rental house... Workers are busy installing screened wiring and shielding paint. Hard to be volt/timing nut if everything flooded with whatever found in wiring/air nowdays...
Otherwise looking back at good times busy building motors it's surprising how little T&M gear actually need for this. Some multimeters, simple PSUs, 25MHz USB scope and LCR meter - thats about it. But next phase will be more in RF territory and this where gear starts to count. Or at least it's good think this way as excuse for severe T&M sickness I'm lately suffering from :-DD
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PIC Programmer: PICkit2
Oscilloscope: B&K precision 2540
USB Logic analyzer: USBee SX
PowerSupply: Old Computer ATX PSU, +5v 15amp, +12v 6amp, -12v 0.3 amp, -5v 0.3 amp
DMM: Some Cheap meter from lowes.
DMM: Some Cheap meter from radio-shack.
Soldering irons: Cheap ESD 15Watt, Cheap 30Wat, And a ECG 45watt De-soldering iron
Breadboard: about 5000 contacts
And a small collection of parts.
The bench is a bit of a mess.
The room is about 8feet by 10feet, and this room is my bed room, I sleep over-top of the work-bench.
I live in a single wide mobile home.
I don't think badSCR is active anymore. Weird to see the internet get old. Like when you see a 1990's web page with spinning .gif's and "This page is under construction".
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Somehow my workbench is under constant evolution... Now things are being moved around a lot. It is still a combined EE/CS workbench with both electronics and computer gear. This does make experimenting extremely simple.
It is not my idea to add the lace trim though, although it did catch falling SOT-23 packages multiple times. Also a lot of IKEA involvement included. The wooden shelf will worth another separate post.
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Perhaps you guys know the situation when all of your equipment has to be on your workbench, taking precious real-estate from your experiments... I made a new rack for my workbench for my most important equipment, click here for a short report (http://nerd.gerardwassink.nl/2017/09/02/building-up-my-workbench/).
(http://nerd.gerardwassink.nl/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2017/09/20170902_03_Building_Workbench.jpg)
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(https://preview.ibb.co/np5Crv/IMG_0367.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f8r7PF)
(https://preview.ibb.co/irvOya/A88_B209_E_AA57_4_A65_B724_713_E84_FEBF92.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kYybJa)
(https://preview.ibb.co/iPOnPF/IMG_0033.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jR6Vda)
(https://preview.ibb.co/iPOnPF/IMG_0033.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jR6Vda)
(https://preview.ibb.co/gEqOya/File_000_18.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jZSQBv)
(https://preview.ibb.co/mikdWv/File_001_6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nFLCrv)
It's not the tidiest of benches but it is functional.
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I got sick of dragging my laptop out to the workshop, so I dug up my old Pi v1, slapped the latest version of Raspian on it, added some heat-sinks, cranked it up to 1Ghz and mounted it behind my workshop LCD Screen. Works great for viewing project docs and schematics while building and repairing stuff. 8)
(https://i.imgur.com/sBXMqTRh.jpg)
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blueskull, I like your mess. Lots of nice goodies on the bench. The wall mount for your laptop is particularly nifty.
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Blueskull. Be careful with your macbook!
Also, I am surprised that you can run both monitors off of one cable..that does look good for decluttering, so this must be new, are they daisy chained using Thunderbolt or something?
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Thanks for the clip info. :-+
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Finished my bench yesterday and it is already chaos. Busy testing a FE-5680A Rubidium Reference standard. Thanks for all the previous posts. Great inspiration.
Any suggestions on improvements are welcome. (ESD mat is on the way..)
(http://www.jelcke.nl/img/bench.jpg)
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Do not run that rubidium without a proper heatsink!
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yes, that is a good suggestion. It is not getting too hot at the moment but I would not enclose it without a heat sink.
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Keep the Bench Porn coming. :-+ :-+
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A monitor arm would free up some shelf space, and maybe add another shelf as you've already maxed out what you have. ;D
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Keep the Bench Porn coming. :-+ :-+
I don't know about calling it 'porn', but mine is certainly a dirty hot mess right now!!
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Electronics/Misc-test-equipment/i-Br5MBGc/0/3ac3c067/L/Bench%202%20-%2017_10-02-L.jpg)
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Testing my new HVP70 isolated probe. Had to wire up a frequency dependent attenuator since the data packets are tiny compared to the mains voltage. It still kinda boggles the mind that it's possible to stream HDTV over the power lines.
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Keep the Bench Porn coming. :-+ :-+
I don't know about calling it 'porn', but mine is certainly a dirty hot mess right now!!
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Electronics/Misc-test-equipment/i-Br5MBGc/0/3ac3c067/L/Bench%202%20-%2017_10-02-L.jpg)
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I like the box marked "fragile" tossed casually upon the pile.
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Project Rainbow in its glory. :palm:
(https://i.imgur.com/u1GJTku.jpg)
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I like the box marked "fragile" tossed casually upon the pile.
:-DD It was placed there so it would be far enough in not to be knocked over by any of the furballs, though that probably wasn't necessary. It contains (4) 6021W subminiature tubes from the 'bay, and is what they shipped in. The seller packaged them very well, wrapping them in pairs in small bubble wrap, then putting the pairs in a small octal tube box, then putting that in the aforementioned box, immobilized therein with peanuts. I could probably throw them against the wall with all my might and they'd be fine.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Electronics/Misc-test-equipment/i-3fW32XP/0/84f22138/L/6021W%20tube-L.jpg)
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It contains (4) 6021W subminiature tubes from the 'bay, and is what they shipped in. The seller packaged them very well, wrapping them in pairs in small bubble wrap, then putting the pairs in a small octal tube box, then putting that in the aforementioned box, immobilized therein with peanuts. I could probably throw them against the wall with all my might and they'd be fine.
What are you doing with them? Portable audio amp?
Just a word of suggestion, that these may be microphonic if you carry them around.
I've made portable amps out of 6N16B, and they are very microphonic.
I'm thinking just a really tiny tube amp; something that would still be line powered and sit on a shelf.
-Pat
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Testing my new HVP70 isolated probe. Had to wire up a frequency dependent attenuator since the data packets are tiny compared to the mains voltage. It still kinda boggles the mind that it's possible to stream HDTV over the power lines.
I have found one truth to be self evident in my hobby of studying history, anything is possible and that which is not yet seen as possible is merely not properly understood.
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I had to work hard to find room for an electronics workbench in my workshop! As you can see, I decided to convert the work area shown in the first photo, then packed my gear around there. Today I have to find yet more room for a desoldering station :-) The rest of the workshop is full of machine tools so further expansion possibilities are 'limited'.
ChrisH
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I had to work hard to find room for an electronics workbench in my workshop! As you can see, I decided to convert the work area shown in the first photo, then packed my gear around there. Today I have to find yet more room for a desoldering station :-) The rest of the workshop is full of machine tools so further expansion possibilities are 'limited'.
ChrisH
The fan on your bench is a solder fume extractor? With a on/off switch and potentiometer for the speed?
I want to build something similar for my bench that's why it caught my attention ^-^
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I had to work hard to find room for an electronics workbench in my workshop! As you can see, I decided to convert the work area shown in the first photo, then packed my gear around there. Today I have to find yet more room for a desoldering station :-) The rest of the workshop is full of machine tools so further expansion possibilities are 'limited'.
ChrisH
The fan on your bench is a solder fume extractor? With a on/off switch and potentiometer for the speed?
I want to build something similar for my bench that's why it caught my attention ^-^
Yes, and I'm just awaiting delivery of some of these filter pads ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-20Pcs-5-x5-Square-Universal-Activated-Carbon-Air-Filter-Sponge-Foam-Pad-Set/322612785845?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=511608281536&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-20Pcs-5-x5-Square-Universal-Activated-Carbon-Air-Filter-Sponge-Foam-Pad-Set/322612785845?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=511608281536&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649) ) then I'll make a case with a couple of those in front and behind the fan. Should make it more effective.
ChrisH
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Nice shop Chris. :)
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Nice shop Chris. :)
I concur! :clap:
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Excellent shop Chris
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Mmmmm... Vertical milling machine. Want!! ;D
Nice setup you have there, but yes, you certainly don't seem to have much space to spare!
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The desoldering machine arrived today as promised and I managed to squeeze it into a corner of the bench :-) Anything else I buy then something will have to go - I may need to sacrifice the stereo music system under the bench top... LOL. It was my daughter's and she grew out of it - seems she has an iPhone permanently grafted to her head instead (and I didn't want to just throw it out).
My stereo microscope is very old, but was made by Zeiss and is optically superb. It came with a bunch of accessories like additional viewing ports (for camera and second eyepieces so someone can see what you're doing). Got it for nothing so can't complain :-)
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Chris nice indeed, got a lot of similar tools, also Myford Lathe, just older, chinesium Mill, but my shop is split across different rooms/areas. Electronics lab in one, reloading and guns in another adjacent room. Lather in yet another one and mill in another area. Still need to move the mill to same place as the lathe and Mig/Tig area. The electronics area was only build earlier this year.
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I'm slightly envious of people who seem to have enough space. This is my little poke hole in the corner of the living room. You know you have very little space when you start buying right angle IEC cables so you can get your kit closer to the wall :)
The computer sits behind the bench and there's a cupboard full of piles of other TEA goodness in the hall.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZMQlpB9.jpg)
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I'm slightly envious of people who seem to have enough space. This is my little poke hole in the corner of the living room. You know you have very little space when you start buying right angle IEC cables so you can get your kit closer to the wall :)
The computer sits behind the bench and there's a cupboard full of piles of other TEA goodness in the hall.
Some nice kit packed in there though. It seems to be a common British problem - our houses and grounds are usually small. I think you could put some shelves above the work area so there are possibilities :-)
ChrisH
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Working on that already. I've got a growing collection of VTVMs and Flukes waiting to be put on it the shelf when it exists :D
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That Ayoue 474++ de-soldering station that arrived today, well it didn't take long to 'take it apart' :-) Something I saw in a vid on YouTube suggested the exhaust air was just vented into the inside of the box - and there's not even a fan to vent the insides, nor even any holes that would allow natural air circulation through convection. So I made a cannister which I will fill with activated charcoal filter material (if it ever turns up in the post), machined from 3" diameter 10g alloy tube and fitted with turned caps for the ends. The bottom cap I left three milled tabs for hold down screws, matching holes were drilled and tapped into the bottom of the case. Hose connectors were turned from hex brass rod and a length of 3/8" silicone tube was used to connect the pump to the cannister, and again from there to outside the case. Not sure where in the case I'll vent to but likely I'll make use of the covered unused hole in the front face as that saves me drilling another. I haven't powered it up yet again but I'm hoping the cannister might also knock the edge off the noise too..
ChrisH
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I'm slightly envious of people who seem to have enough space. This is my little poke hole in the corner of the living room.
I know what you mean. I had my stuff set up in a closet for many years. Fortunately, it was a pretty big closet. Eventually the drawbacks of working in a closet motivated a move out to a corner in the bedroom.
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I know it wasn't ideal, but excellent use of a closet. Do you remember what kind of lamp that was?
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Do you remember what kind of lamp that was?
I still have it. It was made by Aven, but I don't think they sell it any more. It uses a 55 watt fluorescent tube and almost every structural part is metal. It's the most solid and sturdy clamp on lamp I've ever seen.
I moved it with everything else into the bedroom, but since installing the LED shoplights I don't really have much need for it there anymore. I'm sure I'll find some use for it though.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/desklab-lighting-tips/?action=dlattach;attach=338611;image)
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This is mine, its my happy place when I have time out of my normal day.
(https://cdn.geekzone.co.nz/imagessubs/cc98ca4b69d840707950e00c8d41a428.jpg)
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If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
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My bench is 21" x 21" and I sit the soldering box on top when I need to solder.
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My bench is 21" x 21" and I sit the soldering box on top when I need to solder.
It's that an Amiga 2000 mainboard?
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Yes. D1 and D2 traces between the 68k and and the memory buffers were ate by the battery leaking. Jumper across those but still have a green screen at power up.
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Yes. D1 and D2 traces between the 68k and and the memory buffers were ate by the battery leaking. Jumper across those but still have a green screen at power up.
Thought I recognised it, I have one sitting on my repair pile too with the same damage- the Rom and CPU socket both need replacing too.
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I always regretted selling my 500 back in the 90's and found this 2000 local on craigslist last summer and someday I'll get it working again.
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Anyone got any good ideas regarding [mains] power distribution? I have a small workspace but still need a lot of plug sockets. Currently I have 34 sockets derived from a variety of 4 and 6-way extentions - not a happy or particularly safe situation as I always seem to need yet another and usually in a place where the lead won't stretch to! Must be something better available?
ChrisH
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This idea is not power management so much as power strip management..
;)
For what its worth, Ikea sells a wire management device "Signum" which attaches to the bottom of a desk or shelf which holds messy cables (and/or power strips. Combined with nylon cable ties it will safely hold at least four power strips with their associated wall warts, etc. up off the floor and out of harms way.
Its not a solution, though, more of a kludge. Relatively cheap, though, ($12 in the US) and in my experience quite durable in terms of longevity through moves and insertions, removals of cables..
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If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
WoW
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Your picture reminds me of my memories of what the living quarters of a friend who worked in an electronics surplus shop on New York's "Radio Row" was like- He lived in the basement of the store. This was in the 1970s, when I was a youngster.
If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
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If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
WoW
All i need (in terms of physical space), a chair, someplace for my feet to go and tables, that blue chair is surrounded on all sides except the rear by them. So by that definition not only do i work in it, i actually make effective use of it mess and all.
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If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
WoW
All i need (in terms of physical space), a chair, someplace for my feet to go and tables, that blue chair is surrounded on all sides except the rear by them. So by that definition not only do i work in it, i actually make effective use of it mess and all.
I once had a workspace in a two by two meter room, you couldn't do anything without it looking a bomb went off in there.
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This idea is not power management so much as power strip management..
;)
For what its worth, Ikea sells a wire management device "Signum" which attaches to the bottom of a desk or shelf which holds messy cables (and/or power strips. Combined with nylon cable ties it will safely hold at least four power strips with their associated wall warts, etc. up off the floor and out of harms way.
Its not a solution, though, more of a kludge. Relatively cheap, though, ($12 in the US) and in my experience quite durable in terms of longevity through moves and insertions, removals of cables..
Another option is wire cable trays, which serve a similar purpose, and which can also act as a nice tray to hold power strips. just use cable ties to hold the strips down and to manage cables.
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If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
WoW
All i need (in terms of physical space), a chair, someplace for my feet to go and tables, that blue chair is surrounded on all sides except the rear by them. So by that definition not only do i work in it, i actually make effective use of it mess and all.
I once had a workspace in a two by two meter room, you couldn't do anything without it looking a bomb went off in there.
I have 6 cubic feet with a little extra, i filled almost all of that with tables and the tables with multimeters.
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If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
WoW
All i need (in terms of physical space), a chair, someplace for my feet to go and tables, that blue chair is surrounded on all sides except the rear by them. So by that definition not only do i work in it, i actually make effective use of it mess and all.
I once had a workspace in a two by two meter room, you couldn't do anything without it looking a bomb went off in there.
I have 6 cubic feet with a little extra, i filled also all of that with tables and the tables with multimeters.
Between the Amateur Radio addiction, and the Test Equipment addiction I am running out of space.
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I always regretted selling my 500 back in the 90's and found this 2000 local on craigslist last summer and someday I'll get it working again.
Same, although a few years ago I found one on Gumtree (Aus equiv of CL) with a monitor for about what I sold my A500 for in the late 90's.
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I always regretted selling my 500 back in the 90's and found this 2000 local on craigslist last summer and someday I'll get it working again.
Same, although a few years ago I found one on Gumtree (Aus equiv of CL) with a monitor for about what I sold my A500 for in the late 90's.
I found a 500 with hdd one town over last summer but they wanted $500 for it.
Between the Amateur Radio addiction, and the Test Equipment addiction I am running out of space.
hmm, lets see I have my Amiga retrocomputing, HP calculator stuff, soldering, test equipment, ham stuff and reloading stuff all squeezed in my closet :) I think I need less hobbies
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I always regretted selling my 500 back in the 90's and found this 2000 local on craigslist last summer and someday I'll get it working again.
Same, although a few years ago I found one on Gumtree (Aus equiv of CL) with a monitor for about what I sold my A500 for in the late 90's.
I found a 500 with hdd one town over last summer but they wanted $500 for it.
Between the Amateur Radio addiction, and the Test Equipment addiction I am running out of space.
hmm, lets see I have my Amiga retrocomputing, HP calculator stuff, soldering, test equipment, ham stuff and reloading stuff all squeezed in my closet :) I think I need less hobbies
Ouch, mine was $130 with 600 disks, 1081 monitor and a spare broken a500.
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They keep saying i am out of space but thats fine, it amuses me to see them stand slackjawed when i fit one more thing.
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Ouch, mine was $130 with 600 disks, 1081 monitor and a spare broken a500.
I passed that one up. Got the $100 A2000 later. It has a ram card and hardcard but had the leaked battery.
There is a $250 one local now that shows its working but too much $ for me and no space for it anyway.
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Ouch, mine was $130 with 600 disks, 1081 monitor and a spare broken a500.
I passed that one up. Got the $100 A2000 later. It has a ram card and hardcard but had the leaked battery.
There is a $250 one local now that shows its working but too much $ for me and no space for it anyway.
Cool, I collect the wedge Amiga's due to the reduced storage space needed. They fit nicely on shelves in my study when not in use. ;D
https://imgur.com/gallery/ZtFZA
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I'm not really much of a collector, just decided I was going to get one again. My 500 I was designing and expansion board that had 2000 style slots so it made sense to get a 2000 to start with.
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hmm, lets see I have my Amiga retrocomputing, HP calculator stuff, soldering, test equipment, ham stuff and reloading stuff all squeezed in my closet :) I think I need less hobbies
Nahh. You need a bigger closet. Then you can add some more hobbies!
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There's a great site here: www.amibay.com (http://www.amibay.com) wher Amigas and other retro computers are traded. You'll easily find an A500 for a sensible price there, but be warned, if you already suffer from TEA or similar, this site can be dangerous (to your wallet).
McBryce.
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There's a great site here: www.amibay.com (http://www.amibay.com) wher Amigas and other retro computers are traded. You'll easily find an A500 for a sensible price there, but be warned, if you already suffer from TEA or similar, this site can be dangerous (to your wallet).
McBryce.
I concur, it's a very dangerous site. :-DD
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There's a great site here: www.amibay.com (http://www.amibay.com) wher Amigas and other retro computers are traded. You'll easily find an A500 for a sensible price there, but be warned, if you already suffer from TEA or similar, this site can be dangerous (to your wallet).
McBryce.
I registered there months ago but never get any confirmation.
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There's a great site here: www.amibay.com (http://www.amibay.com) wher Amigas and other retro computers are traded. You'll easily find an A500 for a sensible price there, but be warned, if you already suffer from TEA or similar, this site can be dangerous (to your wallet).
McBryce.
I registered there months ago but never get any confirmation.
Strange. If you want to send me a PM with your details I can forward them to one of the admins.
McBryce.
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Remember the Amiga Video Toaster?
I have lots of fond memories of parties back in the day involving Video Toasters
(to create what was then a futuristic vibe.)
I am sure the effects would look dated now but back then they were really great.
There's a great site here: www.amibay.com (http://www.amibay.com) wher Amigas and other retro computers are traded. You'll easily find an A500 for a sensible price there, but be warned, if you already suffer from TEA or similar, this site can be dangerous (to your wallet).
McBryce.
I registered there months ago but never get any confirmation.
Strange. If you want to send me a PM with your details I can forward them to one of the admins.
McBryce.
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There's a great site here: www.amibay.com (http://www.amibay.com) wher Amigas and other retro computers are traded. You'll easily find an A500 for a sensible price there, but be warned, if you already suffer from TEA or similar, this site can be dangerous (to your wallet).
McBryce.
I registered there months ago but never get any confirmation.
Perhaps you should be thankful for this? :-//
*your credit card* --> :phew:
:-DD
-Pat
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It's just the bar keeping the drunks out!
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There's a great site here: www.amibay.com (http://www.amibay.com) wher Amigas and other retro computers are traded. You'll easily find an A500 for a sensible price there, but be warned, if you already suffer from TEA or similar, this site can be dangerous (to your wallet).
Thanks, McBryce. I may regret it later, but meanwhile... ;D
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... - but how come you guys' benches are so neat! Where are all your cables, connectors, adapters, cutters, solder and general stuff?
It's a disease.
When in the wood shop, I restore tools to their bin though they may be needed for a pending task. I clear my bench prior to working on each new project. I think it reduces frustration.
Most cohabitants (such as my son) disagree.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with being neat & organized.
I can't understand how one can work in a space the size of a phone booth and/or using a table or bench with no more room to place a handheld multimeter on simply because it's piled high with 'stuff'. :-//
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*your credit card* --> :phew:
:-DD
-Pat
All my credit cards are maxed anyway thanks to the health care reform |O
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MrWoof: are you mixing a cake with your drill press?
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<homer>mmm, cake </homer>
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MrWoof: are you mixing a cake with your drill press?
I thought sooner or later someone will pick on it :P Actually lab in process of dismantling (empty shelves etc). Not everything in right place. Bowl should be instead of vice little below.
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You can fit four big power strips and associated cords into a signum with no overhang and likely even more if you take care to tie up the cables neatly with cable ties and are willing to have the ends hang off the signum's ends a bit. Thats including some wall warts too.
This idea is not power management so much as power strip management..
;)
For what its worth, Ikea sells a wire management device "Signum" which attaches to the bottom of a desk or shelf which holds messy cables (and/or power strips. Combined with nylon cable ties it will safely hold at least four power strips with their associated wall warts, etc. up off the floor and out of harms way.
Its not a solution, though, more of a kludge. Relatively cheap, though, ($12 in the US) and in my experience quite durable in terms of longevity through moves and insertions, removals of cables..
Another option is wire cable trays, which serve a similar purpose, and which can also act as a nice tray to hold power strips. just use cable ties to hold the strips down and to manage cables.
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My lab space is small, but I'm using it efficiently, I don't really need or can imagine needing more space :) If I needed more space it would be for "cold" storage not active lab space. I have place for a chair to sit if I needed. Got a rack this week to place some of the instruments more conveniently and closer. Instruments that I don't use everyday, like the oscilloscope, are in storage and taken out and used when needed. I use laptops at home, exclusively (it's more comfortable), and I don't typically need one in the active lab area, if I do, I can bring it anytime. I do have desktops (they are around the house) but they don't have monitors attached to them, I use terminal services or ssh to connect to them.
My philosophy for a lab is favoring modern small instruments over bulky old ones even if you have to pay more for them. I do not like old, obsolete instruments, if their function can be replaced by a modern one. I don't use the active lab space for storing instruments than I don't usually use, I believe that is wasteful. And I like smart storage and using most of your space. Having said that, my lab will grow, we'll see if that changes :)
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What a strange room, or widened hallway, depending on how you view it.
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yes and yes, they call it a "study", it's bigger than it looks, picture taken with an ultra-wide lens
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That's more space than I have :)
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That's probably a little less space than I had when my bench was in a closet, but you don't always need a lot of room to do electronics. My table is 60" x 30" but most of the time all I use is the front right quarter.
BTW, hope you have something under the legs of those industrial steel shelves to protect that nice wood floor.
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Just out of curiosity how bright are your workbench lamps? :popcorn:
Between 4-10k here.
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It's a bit of a mess, but I just finished this bench last weekend. Planning to add another row of shelves above the first row, and maybe a Rigol DP832 and a logic analyzer of some sort.
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It's a bit of a mess, but I just finished this bench last weekend. Planning to add another row of shelves above the first row, and maybe a Rigol DP832 and a logic analyzer of some sort.
where do you get the shelves from?
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It's a bit of a mess, but I just finished this bench last weekend.
I think you need to send your chaos meter in for calibration. I just checked your bench on mine and it reads "extraordinarily tidy".
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If you can see the actual desk, it counts as clean.
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If you can see the actual desk, it counts as clean.
Are there restrictions on position or viewing angle?
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If you can see the actual desk, it counts as clean.
Are there restrictions on position or viewing angle?
I second this, as only the edges of mine are still visible (as expected when looking at it from straight on). :-DD
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]where do you get the shelves from?
I made them from pine and poplar boards from Menards. The shelf tops and desk tops are edge glued pine board. They stained up nicely.
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Are there restrictions on position or viewing angle?
Maybe I should say desktop, or top of the desk, rather than desk. If you can see that, it's clean. Creative angles are fair game!
The same goes for the floor.
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Thank you!
Saved me a day of cleaning. :-DD
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This is what my workbench looks like right now, just got a new toy. 3kva variac. Total impulse purchase:
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-4147-dsc_2779.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/other/random/dsc_2779.jpg)
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-4148-dsc_2783.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/other/random/dsc_2783.jpg)
Also have a 120 to 480 transformer on the way. Realized that with an autotransformer I get no isolation and I really want isolation if I'm going to be playing with this stuff.
I have been wanting to get into more projects and more learning (I'm still a newbie) but I have a lot of projects to do first such as a shed so I can clear my garage of stuff and build a work shop, so that I can then build a better workbench/computer desk for my office. I could buy but want to build something custom that will make good use of the room space. Eventually I'll get all that stuff done and I'll be on to actually getting into electronics projects.
As a bonus, my shed in progress:
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-4074-img_20170913_1919461.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/house_projects/shed_build/img_20170913_1919461.jpg)
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-4134-img_20171022_1801374.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/house_projects/shed_build/img_20171022_1801374.jpg)
I kind of had to build parts separately because it always rains so I need to be able to tarp it between days that I work on it. At this point I'm just waiting till it stays below freezing for a consecutive week so that the rain stops, then I can finish it and not worry about leaving it half done overnight while still exposed. It's almost tempting to just make the shed the workshop.... but it's a bit small.
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I love threads like this. I find it really interesting to see other peoples aork space.
I posted a video on my work space
https://www.mrelectronics.net/single-post/2017/11/02/Tour-of-my-Home-office (https://www.mrelectronics.net/single-post/2017/11/02/Tour-of-my-Home-office)
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New shelves for the new lab. Lab is moving from basement to attic, so some new furniture is required.
These are the shelves to store a lot of TEA and all the other good stuff. The second is half finished, enough for today.
The compartment are made to fit Tek 7 mainframes (height) and two full rack size instruments per compartment (1m width).
In front of the first shelf, the workbench will be placed, don't know yet if I'll build one or buy a standard corner desk.
The shelf itself is of beech wood, real hard stuff. The frame is standard spruce wood, way much easier to work with. It's a lot of work to make all the frame elements you see in the second picture.
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Hornbach ? Similar build-style like I have. :)
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Hornbach ? Similar build-style like I have. :)
No,there's no Hornbach in my area, we have Bauhaus and Obi. Anyway, I've got the wood from a local dealer, none of the usual home improvement stores. The hanger bolts and and anchor nuts were ordered from another dealer, cheaper than Bauhaus or Obi.
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Is there a reason most people go with this slightly clunky open bare wood style shelves?
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It is simple and straightforward.
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Is there a reason most people go with this slightly clunky open bare wood style shelves?
Easy, cheap, and most importantly, you can make them to fit existing spaces exactly. While if you used commercial shelving systems like those wire frame things, they never fit like you'd prefer.
Pic is one of two clunky bare wood shelving bays off my electronics work area. The *other* bay is currently orbiting a lot closer to the Chaos grand attractor, so best not show it.
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Is there a reason most people go with this slightly clunky open bare wood style shelves?
Easy, cheap, and most importantly, you can make them to fit existing spaces exactly. While if you used commercial shelving systems like those wire frame things, they never fit like you'd prefer.
Pic is one of two clunky bare wood shelving bays off my electronics work area. The *other* bay is currently orbiting a lot closer to the Chaos grand attractor, so best not show it.
Wuss!! :P
We want chaos pictures!! :rant:
;D
-Pat
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We want chaos pictures!! :rant:
Ha ha. Very well then. Shield your eyes.
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Ha ha. Very well then. Shield your eyes.
You know the rules. If you can see the floor, it's clean. It seems you only have the back bit to tidy.
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We want chaos pictures!! :rant:
Ha ha. Very well then. Shield your eyes.
Doesn't look too different from the first one ;)
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We want chaos pictures!! :rant:
Ha ha. Very well then. Shield your eyes.
Chaos! ::) Pshaw! I see plenty of room to walk (directly on the floor, no less!!) in that aisle!
Truth be told, I really need to build some nice sturdy shelves like those. I have boatanchors scattered throughout the house. A lower grade of chaos than yours (maybe...), but far more pervasive.
-Pat
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Chaos! ::) Pshaw! I see plenty of room to walk (directly on the floor, no less!!) in that aisle!
Truth be told, I really need to build some nice sturdy shelves like those. I have boatanchors scattered throughout the house. A lower grade of chaos than yours (maybe...), but far more pervasive.
-Pat
Sorry to disappoint you, but it's merely the entropy that's worse.
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The advantage of all these pictures of 'chaos' is that whenever I'm told by SWMBO that the workshop is untidy I just head off to EEVBlog. Some of these images look like Bob Pease's office, proving that everything is relative.
Now where did I put those Morse paddles and my iPod?
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I browsed through this thread looking for inspiration for my electronics workbench.. It was interesting to say the least!! Lots of people from different backgrounds. As a woodworker I try using appropriate joinery when possible instead of screws and nails. I guess all of this doesn't matter once the mess starts accumulating |O
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I browsed through this thread looking for inspiration for my electronics workbench.. It was interesting to say the least!! Lots of people from different backgrounds. As a woodworker I try using appropriate joinery when possible instead of screws and nails. I guess all of this doesn't matter once the mess starts accumulating |O
It usually doesn't show up after the work (mess) begins.
I have always made due with what I had on hand or what I could buy.
In the early days I had a couple of military surplus steel desks, I wish I still had the good one. When I moved here I went to a used furniture store and bought a used executive desk for next to nothing. 7' wide and 4' deep. The feet couldn't handle the weight and when the feet started to fail I borrowed a bottle jack and put cinder blocks in the corners.
Here is an old picture just after I installed the shelves.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PxYDcvPnv8YD5s5rTK2OfyhimxVTf83caiKB05zylOBcQtGuFsnP2Y9vabZaMxj8t0rJB3d3AZ7taHOEjFBKC3j23w-Lx4Fihx9WCkpk_aHujx5H0TyDbrp9YpEwzA_KiJ6_ZV1Oh4ecGC1ibAHeJJGOxqI8ZZbe-oc5ZrgneqoMmY6uTHdbLFSrKIsmFbKE9UAJ9wFO4G-UKJHBCoo2dYKWNlWuTV4A6cLonvpFnTWzSPCOcMMO6XvpMitkL0oxbJVHEK5O3dDYvWRJSW6i26V-VJ96uccdGTaqlY5OpYwcXN4mhlVWzdkEYmCFDNtvHyv9_s4SgW32j_Jh1CDn6QlCy0xAtBgvBqbaD4JMSmzjuq6SN7nUZqvrn2w3OUk9FlY6Qp7_i_qo-9ZxCfH5gA58M3sdxsu1ybPnj4yi5MEm65M_V79Z1nSKQMMrnLSFUdQ-KcZo_etT3HdJZiSiDU-yRW3OQ9Ubds7ttW-NfJPNUx6DYQqcbHJFm4N03k1krqF_k6YF_KgoBmKEpwW16dMNI4onlfspm0pi-8rugrD522TPoBXWzR4ige7Ouoong8BeaInuV3blvJVG6AViEdIjx-cy86r5kFiZJzUfAA=w954-h715-no)
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I see lots of Heathkit green in that picture (this is a good thing) :)
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Like the big on/off switch on your desk (the one with the wooden handle...) :)
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I thought it was an alignment tool
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Actually the mallet was an alignment tool to align the Candy Apple Flat Black spacers holding up the shelves. I have a fair amount of Heathkit gear. The test gear has expanded quite a bit since this picture was taken. A significant amount of HP Iron was added.
The IFR is down for repairs, which is its usual condition.
I need another FM/AM 1000 for parts. :(
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Actually the mallet was an alignment tool to align the Candy Apple Flat Black spacers holding up the shelves. I have a fair amount of Heathkit gear. The test gear has expanded quite a bit since this picture was taken. A significant amount of HP Iron was added.
The IFR is down for repairs, which is its usual condition.
I need another FM/AM 1000 for parts. :(
Boo, hiss - I see no picture, just a white minus sign in a grey circle. :(
A mallet is always useful to have around if one must perform percussive maintenance on something. (Or, for extreme cases, Widlarization.)
-Pat
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Actually the mallet was an alignment tool to align the Candy Apple Flat Black spacers holding up the shelves. I have a fair amount of Heathkit gear. The test gear has expanded quite a bit since this picture was taken. A significant amount of HP Iron was added.
The IFR is down for repairs, which is its usual condition.
I need another FM/AM 1000 for parts. :(
Boo, hiss - I see no picture, just a white minus sign in a grey circle. :(
A mallet is always useful to have around if one must perform percussive maintenance on something. (Or, for extreme cases, Widlarization.)
-Pat
Okay lets try this highly compressed attachment.
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Now I can see the peekshure! ;D
Nice looking setup there, Sue.
-Pat
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Lots of nice gear you have there, Sue. And I now see the alignment tool, within easy reach no less. ;D
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Wooo... a percussive maintenance tool. I have various sizes, and a few steel ones.
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Sue that is a "fleet" of boat anchors! Lovely to look at, even better to use :-+
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Bet they make great space heaters too (nice & comfy lab during winter). 8)
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I have a rubber mallet exactly like that one, inherited from my mother. I have another one that's wood, and another one that's solid metal. Its not that large but the head weighs a lot.
Combined with some other objects d'art, it make a good musical instrument.
I bet it or the wood mallet would work well in judiciary applications as well.
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I have the same percussive maintenance tool. I just used my this past Saturday, along with a heavy duty long shafted slotted screwdriver to wind back the caliper pistons on my van to redo the rear brakes. I didn't know they rotated, broke a 60 year old C clamp trying to compress the piston as I have done many times in the past--separate rant there.
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If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
I'll give you a medal. You make me feel that I'm in good company.
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Okay lets try this highly compressed attachment.
Oh, those wonderfully rounded Heathkit (?) corners. Brilliant. That's a shack, not a work-bench/lab. Even better. 73s
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I have to admit that it amuses me that so many labs look like they're inhabited by Ned from Jurassic Park. I imagine some musty smell of unkempt cats, old coffee and slightly overheated electronics, and a hermit that shrieks when someone opens the blinds.
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I have to admit that it amuses me that so many labs look like they're inhabited by Ned from Jurassic Park. I imagine some musty smell of unkempt cats, old coffee and slightly overheated electronics, and a hermit that shrieks when someone opens the blinds.
My cats are not that unkempt and i don't like coffee, otherwise you just described me to a T.
If messy workbenches deserve applause then i do believe i need a medal.
Yes i actually work in that.
I'll give you a medal. You make me feel that I'm in good company.
When i clean my workbenches they always are clear of debris until i actually attempt to do something. :-DD They are constantly changing it seems, even if only in the small details.
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I imagine some musty smell of unkempt cats, old coffee and slightly overheated electronics, and a hermit that shrieks when someone opens the blinds.
1. My lab assistants are very well kept.
2. I don't drink coffee.
3. I have a window A/C unit to mitigate the heat from all the electronics. >:D
Otherwise, yeah. :-DD
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My lab. Two things of note:
1. The AMScope on the articulating arm is about the most useful thing in the lab.
2. The Keyboard on the computer is an original IBM Model M from a long gone server. It's dated 01-18-1990, so it's older than a lot of the people on this message board.
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Oh, yes. Lots of nice goodies, Kevin. :-+
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IBM Model M keyboard!! :-+ :-+ :-+
Computer input device and blunt force trauma weapon. A truly multipurpose piece of hardware! My all time favorite keyboard.
-Pat
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Best keyboards ever. I had one. Unfortunately not great unless you live on your own.
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Got a similar IBM keyboard in a cupboard, it has one of those round PS2 plugs which doesn't fit any PC I currently own sadly.
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You can get USB/PS2 adapters for pittance: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0012XGK3A (https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0012XGK3A)
TBH I got annoyed with the lack of start + context menu keys with mine as well.
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Best keyboards ever. I had one. Unfortunately not great unless you live on your own.
I still have a model M keyboard at the lab.
Too loud for the home
But by far the best keyboard ever!
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Best keyboards ever. I had one. Unfortunately not great unless you live on your own.
I still have a model M keyboard at the lab.
Too loud for the home
But by far the best keyboard ever!
Now i want one.. :-DD
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I'm pretty sure that the first computer I owned (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/vintage-computing/what-was-the-very-first-computer-you-owned/msg1272450/#msg1272450) came with one of those Model M keyboards. I don't remember what happened to it though. Some kind of spill disaster probably.
They're still made today.
https://www.pckeyboard.com/ (https://www.pckeyboard.com/)
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Yep, you can still buy new ones today. However, I saw a video where it appears that the tolerances on the new keyboards aren't as good as the old ones, probably due to wear from decades of manufacturing.
Some of the new ones, such as the Ultra Classic, do have Start and Context Menu keys, though.
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Yep, you can still buy new ones today. However, I saw a video where it appears that the tolerances on the new keyboards aren't as good as the old ones, probably due to wear from decades of manufacturing.
Some of the new ones, such as the Ultra Classic, do have Start and Context Menu keys, though.
I'm left wondering the effect and severity of the looser tolerances, any idea?
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neo, this is the video that compares the newer Unicomp model M's with the Lexmark and original "IBM" ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtkAFhz1BC4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtkAFhz1BC4)
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Some nice facts of the model M are even on wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard
I was lucky enough to buy a few brand new Model M over the years in original IBM packaging.
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If I could find a keyboard that was as robust and pleasant-typing as an old Model M, but was ten-key-less format (and I could afford it, preferably more than one), I'd be very happy.
I used to use an original model M, till it failed. Then a variety of membrane switch cheapies, but they feel horrible and don't last long. Then from trying a cheap tenkeyless (no numeric keypad) and realizing how much better the ergonomics are, I bought a Poseidon KB-PZX.
I love the small size, reduced distance from mouse to keys, and the mechanical keys typing feel.
Downsides:
* Over time a few switch contacts have gone intermittent, and had to be opened up for cleaning. Which isn't so hard, but is annoying.
* Cheaply made keytops. Keys are illuminated, meaning there's an inner translucent body and a black outer layer with the legends, so the legends glow. But the outer layer is thin, and is wearing off the most-used keys. Which makes the keyboard a short lifetime product, unless I can get replacement keytops.
* The illuminating LEDs under each key are above the key shaft. So keys that have two legends (eg the numerics along the top row) only get the upper symbol illuminated. To 'fix' this with the numerics, Poseidon made the stupid decision to swap the numbers and symbols, ie say 4 at top, and $ at bottom. Which means the shift function is actually reversed from what you see. This really messes with your typing reflexes. It's the worst problem with this keyboard. Solely for that reason I wouldn't buy another.
Edit to add: The current manufacturer's fad, seems to be keytops with absolutely flat, square tops, with little space between the keys. I find this astonishingly stupid. There's no tactile feedback for your finger placement accuracy at all. Add in the mushy feel of membrane key travel mechanics, and these keyboards are not fit for purpose imo. They are soooo bad they set my paranoia off, making me suspect they are deliberately intended to cripple the ability to type rapidly. (Yes, I know, probably just stupid designers. Probably... But it's really an unbelievable level of stupid.)
Oh, and another problem with the KB-PZX, is it seems to have a relatively slow scan speed, scanning the matrix from left to right. Or maybe I'm developing a different latency between my two hands, it's hard to tell. Anyway, result is that if I'm typing fast, and I meant to type a letter with my right hand then one with my left, they'll appear reversed. For eg just then when I typed "hard" it came out as "ahrd".
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Many older Apple USB keyboards used quite good quality Cherry mechanical switches that basically last forever.
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Would this be the right place for a question about workbench structural integrity?
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Would this be the right place for a question about workbench structural integrity?
Buying more 'vintage' HP gear are ya? ;)
Truth be told, my concern is the floor.
-Pat
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Would this be the right place for a question about workbench structural integrity?
Buying more 'vintage' HP gear are ya? ;)
Truth be told, my concern is the floor.
-Pat
I intend to get a shed built to my specification, obviously i would have the floor reinforced.
Please answer if you can,
I want a workbench that is slightly overkill, for reference i am rather large at 240 and i would like it to be able to not only survive me jumping onto it but to remain rock solid. Not that i intend to do that.
I'm thinking 44" deep with 6 4x4s with 4" spaces, these would then have a cross-brace consisting of a 4x4 every 28 inches and a top consisting of .75 inch plywood. There would be two legs, 16" spacing, with the wall being the support for the rear of the table, a set like that every 28" Total length 16'
Then i would have an upper shelf consisting of 5 2x4s running the length, 8' this time, with the same .75 inch plywood top and a 4x4 under it as a brace every 28"' with a wire pulling the front up towards the wall.
Now obviously I've gone overkill on this but the question at hand is have i gone so far overkill it no longer makes sense?
This is part of my planing for a large project still in it's infancy.
P.S. As for what i am buying, HP, Fluke, lead bricks, generally heavy stuff etc. :-DD
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If I could find a keyboard that was as robust and pleasant-typing as an old Model M, but was ten-key-less format (and I could afford it, preferably more than one), I'd be very happy.
Not sure what affordable means to you, but WASD keyboards (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/) have what you're after. I use their 88-key illuminated keyboards, with a separate mechanical numpad to the left (so I can use the numberpad with my left hand while keeping my right on the mouse--handy in CAD and in Altium, where num+ and num- are used to change layers).
There are also a number of keyboards using clones of the cherry switches, as always the quality is hit or miss, but they are much cheaper.
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"Gaming" keyboards with mechanical switches have become popular, but I don't think I've seen any without an attached numberpad. I have a couple of Pfu compact keyboards (Happy Hacking 2) I bought 15 years ago that are still going strong and they have a very nice feel, but their price has gotten ridiculous.
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I intend to get a shed built to my specification, obviously i would have the floor reinforced.
Reinforced WHAT? For really heavy stuff, anything but a thick concrete slab with plenty of reo is iffy. (He says, while setting up a big lathe on a floor of pavers on sand. Will be using large hardwood base pedestals to spread load.)
I want a workbench that is slightly overkill, for reference i am rather large at 240 and i would like it to be able to not only survive me jumping onto it but to remain rock solid. Not that i intend to do that.
I'm thinking 44" deep with 6 4x4s with 4" spaces, these would then have a cross-brace consisting of a 4x4 every 28 inches and a top consisting of .75 inch plywood. There would be two legs, 16" spacing, with the wall being the support for the rear of the table, a set like that every 28" Total length 16'
Then i would have an upper shelf consisting of 5 2x4s running the length, 8' this time, with the same .75 inch plywood top and a 4x4 under it as a brace every 28"' with a wire pulling the front up towards the wall.
That's twice you've brought the walls into it. What are they made of? It's not really a good idea to hang heavy shelving loads off walls, since they apply torsional forces to the wall structural members. Which in any case will never be in the right places. Worst case, with timber frame structures the entire building might go trapezoid.
Another problem with attaching benches to walls, if the walls are not thick brickwork or concrete, is that any banging on the bench couples to the walls, like a drum. Your family & neighbors will not be happy.
Concrete floor, and all loads passing directly downwards to it, is best.
Not sure what affordable means to you, but WASD keyboards (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/) have what you're after. I use their 88-key illuminated keyboards, ...
Those look pretty nice, next time I have $145 + shipping to Oz spare, I'll try one. The 87 key, not sure which version switches.
I like the company's attitude: "No obnoxious branding. Discreet LED indicators." Man, I'd forgotten about that. I had to hack the poseidon to remove the obnoxious branding on the front. There was even an illuminated logo on the space bar. JFC.
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These are really nice keyboards, but they are utterly expensive:
http://www.weytec.com/produkte/wey-keyboards/wey-keyboards/ (http://www.weytec.com/produkte/wey-keyboards/wey-keyboards/)
(http://www.weytec.com/typo3temp/pics/c0acaf2e68.jpg)
(http://www.weytec.com/typo3temp/pics/201c1b90e3.jpg)
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Ah Reuters terminals. Proper hardcore tech company behind those keyboards. None of those startup pansies you get these days.
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Some time back I saw a blurb about a brand of keyboards with small illuminated displays for special function keys so they could be reconfigured to all sorts of special uses contextually by software. That seemed useful. But then again, many things seem useful but are not used.
One of my next projects is some kind of wireless annunciator I can usually just leave on my desktop but which is mobile that can run software to announce things have occurred. It would light up, make noise, etc. For example, that something has happened during a build that I need to know about. Or that somebody important has emailed or left a text message, etc. Seems an ESP8266 would be ideal for this. Also, alarms, to-do list, etc. A non-commercial nag screen for myself.
There is a beep program on linux that is useful for audio feedback in scripting. It can make as many different beeps as you want. Just insert a call or calls into a file that is executed. Beep for success, failure or whatever.
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Some time back I saw a blurb about a brand of keyboards with small illuminated displays for special function keys so they could be reconfigured to all sorts of special uses contextually by software. That seemed useful. But then again, many things seem useful but are not used.
One of my next projects is some kind of wireless annunciator I can usually just leave on my desktop but which is mobile that can run software to announce things have occurred. It would light up, make noise, etc. For example, that something has happened during a build that I need to know about. Or that somebody important has emailed or left a text message, etc. Seems an ESP8266 would be ideal for this. Also, alarms, to do list, etc.
There is a beep program on linux that is useful for audio feedback in scripting. It can make as many different beeps as you want. Just insert a call or calls into a file that is executed. Beep for success, failure or whatever.
Sounds like the Optimus Maximus Keyboard you were reading about. Discontinued and replaced with the ugly looking Popularis.
McBryce.
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I've recently been fooling around with these tiny, $2-3 very sharp OLED displays. By tiny, I mean really tiny, they are barely larger than a fingertip, but sharp enough to hold a few lines of text.
They seem to be a logical choice for small bright graphic displays that are not on all the time. (if they were, then the product should be one that's fairly disposable, as OLEDS are reputed to wear out fairly quickly)
I checked out the optimus KBs. You're right, they are ugly. No, the ones that I was talking about are nicer, but likely even more expensive.
The idea of putting a dedicated screen behind the keys is a good idea, though, I think. It could be implemented perhaps much better.
The Reuters keyboards have a small monitor embedded in the top, that's a bit like a tablet. Having a small screen on a keyboard which always shows what your TV channel is broadcasting seems potentially quite useful in a newsroom.
Tablets are good for convenience, reading things, PDFs, even video, etc. but horrible for one to try to "type" on, and prone to mistakes. I've given up on surfing blogs like eevblog with mine for that reason. I spent more time correcting mistakes than typing.
But, attached - (but detachable +with power) to a workbench and with the right workbench-specific software, a tablet could be really great.
I could see all the instruments being designed to display to a tablet in user reizable frames, and intercommunicating using open standards and time-stamping.
Some time back I saw a blurb about a brand of keyboards with small illuminated displays for special function keys so they could be reconfigured to all sorts of special uses contextually by software. That seemed useful. But then again, many things seem useful but are not used.
Sounds like the Optimus Maximus Keyboard you were reading about. Discontinued and replaced with the ugly looking Popularis.
McBryce.
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I don't get the idea of a screen behind the keys. I don't look at the keyboard!
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I don't get the idea of a screen behind the keys. I don't look at the keyboard!
Maybe you would if it had a screen behind it? :)
McBryce.
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Its so they can be relabeled on the fly depending on what application you are in. So that when you switch to some complicated EDA app, your keys will be labeled.
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I still don't get it. I know where all my keys are. It's muscle memory. There's a layer of indirection in the brain which says in KiCad I need to whack A, P or this or that. In Vim, I know where escape is. Typing on screens is a stupid idea as well. No tactile feedback, no boundaries between controls.
Best keyboard is this:
(https://i.imgur.com/ToFxjMv.jpg)
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I still don't get it. I know where all my keys are. It's muscle memory. There's a layer of indirection in the brain which says in KiCad I need to whack A, P or this or that. In Vim, I know where escape is. Typing on screens is a stupid idea as well. No tactile feedback, no boundaries between controls.
Best keyboard is this:
(https://i.imgur.com/ToFxjMv.jpg)
uff, that beauty has been on my wish list for so long. One of these days...
OTOH my gf will kill me once I put it at my PC, that she likes using so much, although before she didn't see why people at this day and age would need a desktop PC and not settle for a notebook.
oh yeah, I'm getting it...
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[quote author=neo link=topic=187.msg1360481#msg1360481 date=1511800332
Please answer if you can,
I want a workbench that is slightly overkill, for reference i am rather large at 240 and i would like it to be able to not only survive me jumping onto it but to remain rock solid. Not that i intend to do that.
I'm thinking 44" deep with 6 4x4s with 4" spaces, these would then have a cross-brace consisting of a 4x4 every 28 inches and a top consisting of .75 inch plywood. There would be two legs, 16" spacing, with the wall being the support for the rear of the table, a set like that every 28" Total length 16'
Then i would have an upper shelf consisting of 5 2x4s running the length, 8' this time, with the same .75 inch plywood top and a 4x4 under it as a brace every 28"' with a wire pulling the front up towards the wall.
Now obviously I've gone overkill on this but the question at hand is have i gone so far overkill it no longer makes sense?
This is part of my planing for a large project still in it's infancy.
P.S. As for what i am buying, HP, Fluke, lead bricks, generally heavy stuff etc. :-DD
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I can say that I weigh quite a bit more than you. That said, my bench is 8' long and the framework is 30" deep, the 3/4" top is 33" deep. My frame is 2X4 with 3 evenly spaced cross braces across the 8' width. The legs, bracing and the risers for the 3 adjustable full length shelves are also 2X4. There are no legs outside of the 4 corners. I can sit in the middle of the bench with almost no sag. My bench is actually on heavy duty casters so I can move it when things fall behind and I can't get to them or for simply sweeping the floor under it as I have a bottom storage shelf. I have had a couple of hundred pounds of equipment scattered on the desktop without any sagging. The heaviest equipment I have are 2 big UPSs that sit on the bottom storage shelf and the Tektronix 2465 o-scope that sits on a home made scope cart.
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Re: LCD keypads, there's this: https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Stream-Deck-Controller-customizable/dp/B06XKNZT1P (https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Stream-Deck-Controller-customizable/dp/B06XKNZT1P)
I'm told by a couple people who have them that the software and configurability is quite good. Compared to other programmable keypads, the price is pretty phenomenal considering this one has fifteen LCDs.
Apparently it was originally intended just for people who do live streams, and the wide-ranging utility of a 15-key programmable LCD keypad came as something of a surprise to the creator.
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I intend to get a shed built to my specification, obviously i would have the floor reinforced.
That's twice you've brought the walls into it. What are they made of? It's not really a good idea to hang heavy shelving loads off walls, since they apply torsional forces to the wall structural members. Which in any case will never be in the right places. Worst case, with timber frame structures the entire building might go trapezoid.
Another problem with attaching benches to walls, if the walls are not thick brickwork or concrete, is that any banging on the bench couples to the walls, like a drum. Your family & neighbors will not be happy.
Concrete floor, and all loads passing directly downwards to it, is best.
I was thinking of having 4x4s in the walls or the like, the thinking that the main weight would be on the front two legs. I suppose i could just put rear legs in plan and have the workbench loose from the wall and nix the upper shelf entirely.
As for the floor its likely that i will at least request concrete.
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That's the kind of keyboard I use at work, except mine has letters on the key caps. I've only been typing for 40 years, so I still have trouble remembering where the keys are. :)
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For a keyboard I use an older MS Internet keyboard pro, simply because I got 2 of them for free ( tossed out because the people wanted a black keyboard to match the new black computer), and they have a nice convenient USB hub built in there, perfect for the wired mouse and a spare port that has a small cheap USB light plugged into it for lighting the keys at night in the dark. Helps to find the key to press and turn on the snoozing monitor.
As to the bench back shelves, I would suggest having the shelf part of the bench, making it with some of that plywood as a side, so the wide section provides a brace to hold it from tipping, but also have the heavier wood posts to take the mass. Make the brackets to hold the shelves from some steel angle, 50mm or larger ( 2in in the USA) and with some bolts through the shelf and side holding them together, and use either a plate other side or fender washers to spread the load to a larger wood surface. Shelf itself put an angle under the length with similar bolting, so there is less bowing, though you can also add a steel rod, with a spacer in the middle providing a gap under the bench, and threaded ends to put a tensile member underneath to compensate for loading.
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It may be worth noting that the workbench question is part of a larger question still in it's planning stages, months away from anything actually being done with it.
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My workbench is in a constant state of change. Gear gets added, gear gets traded off, gear that dies gets sent to the garage sometimes for Parts Mule service.
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Quote from: neo on Today at 05:03:37 AM
I was thinking of having 4x4s in the walls or the like, the thinking that the main weight would be on the front two legs. I suppose i could just put rear legs in plan and have the workbench loose from the wall and nix the upper shelf entirely.
As for the floor its likely that i will at least request concrete.
You don't have to nix the shelving if the bench is free standing. Add risers up the back, use the dual track rails and add some appropriate sized shelf brackets and shelving--3/4" plywood-- and you're good to go. Don't forget casters. I bought solid metal wheel casters from home depot for my bench and the bench moves fairly easy. These will support 300 lb each so you can have 1200 pounds of bench and toys: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-in-Steel-Swivel-Caster-4035345EB/203672178 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-3-in-Steel-Swivel-Caster-4035345EB/203672178)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=374696;image)
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You don't have to nix the shelving if the bench is free standing. Add risers up the back, use the dual track rails and add some appropriate sized shelf brackets and shelving...
Don't forget casters.
FWIW, I built mine as GreyWoolfe describes, but out 1.5" angle steel rather than wood (welded). The riser for the shelves bolts onto the back pair of rear legs (center vertical is 4" channel to accommodate 2x dual track shelving uprights as it allows me to do split height shelves). Instead of plywood, I purchased 16" wide laminated shelving. More steel angle on the shelf fronts so gear doesn't slide off the front.
Instead of wheels though, I used steel leveling mounts (https://www.zoro.com/search?origin=sayt&q=leveling+mount+swivel) (1/2" thread versions can handle 5000lb). So if you don't need wheels under it, you might want to consider these instead. They come in various sizes (pad diameter, thread size, bolt height).
As mine's indoors, I covered the pad portion in magic sliders (http://www.magicsliders.com/) on mine so it won't damage flooring, and makes the occasional need to move it much easier to do.
(https://cloudfront.zoro.com/product/full/Z-2uuufo5oy.JPG)
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Good ideas all around but i intend to have a shed built and to have the workbench built into it.
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Good ideas all around but i intend to have a shed built and to have the workbench built into it.
So, you have oracular future-sight, and know exactly what all your future needs will be? Lucky you.
Personally, from my own experience of often discovering I forgot something, or didn't foresee a future need, I value flexibility highest of all in floor plans.
The shed is a major investment in time, money and planning approval hoop-jumping. What you get from that is floor space. Installing 'permanent' things that take up floor space actually devalues the space to investment ratio for your own use, and the resale value if you ever move.
For instance, what if you decide in future that you'd like to have a few 19" racks (on castors) for your equipment, so you can move whole equipment sets around easily? Suddenly the long benches are not such a good idea - but you can't move or shorten them.
Edit to add: Speaking of workshop space (never being enough), four houses up the road from my place they've almost finished digging The Enormous Pit. (see pic) It's the underground parking space for a block of units. The hole takes up the entire block, minus about 1m border around the edges. The rock-hammer digger in the photo is a small one, most of the hole was dug by a machine three times that size. Nearly 5 months of heavy rock hammering, and it's nearly over, thank God.
Anyway, I'm seriously envious of all that space. Imagine having an underground workshop that big. Two stories high. Speaking to the project manager today, apparently the cost of the hole is about one million, of which 65% was spent trucking away and disposing of the rubble. Which if you are building on a country property and can dispose of the rubble on site, can be omitted.
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Yeah, that would make a sweet workshop, and even allow for a bit of elbow room. :-+
Want.
-Pat
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I actually have space allocated on my bench in these plans for two 30U server racks, but that is a valid point, shortened them to 8'. There is space even without the shortening for more server racks.
The reason i have it built in in these plans is not so much physically bolts down as so large it would have to be taken apart to be moved.
Since i have drug you all this far into my plans i might as well state exactly what they are. Just don't hold me to them because they may change as i think on them.
A 12x40 shed, I'm hoping thats the interior dimensions, built to specification.
EDIT: I may no be omniscient nor am i oracular but based on experience i can predict the right arrangement that will provide me the raw materials needed to grow comfortably.
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The fun part is that ground, dirt or rubble often gets sold elsewhere. You're basically paying someone to take raw materials away.
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I built all my workbenches about four years ago when we moved into this apartment and over the years I've learned an important lesson:
After you've built the benches and shelves put everything on the way you think you want it BUT make nothing permanent, not even the power points. Only after four years and a few equipment purchases and sales am I happy with the layout. Power points have been moved, the PC screen is 1m to the left, the power supplies and frequency reference have moved to the opposite corner and the workbench which used to be against one wall is now by the window.
You don't do all this by drilling holes in the wall for shelves and permanently mounting equipment,
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.. BUT make nothing permanent, not even the power points.
I also have learned this. My latest bench and favorite is a Costco 6 ft folding table with two Costco shelves placed at the ends at 90 degrees. Then I have some 8 foot boards resting on the shelves over the table. I have a 2x2 at the top to which I used plastic ties to tie a Costco LED work light. So my whole setup is held together with two plastic ties. This has worked well for years now. At my point I am glad if I can a tie vs a screw.
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I built all my workbenches about four years ago when we moved into this apartment and over the years I've learned an important lesson:
After you've built the benches and shelves put everything on the way you think you want it BUT make nothing permanent, not even the power points. Only after four years and a few equipment purchases and sales am I happy with the layout. Power points have been moved, the PC screen is 1m to the left, the power supplies and frequency reference have moved to the opposite corner and the workbench which used to be against one wall is now by the window.
You don't do all this by drilling holes in the wall for shelves and permanently mounting equipment,
For me, actually, the only things that didn't change are the power points and the desk top. Gear/computers/monitor location, shelf material/thickness and the bench location has changed. I got the power points right the first time.
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These kind of shelves are easy to rearrange. I've added more since this photo (above the pegboard).
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/need-inspiration-for-a-new-lab-table/?action=dlattach;attach=184721;image)
I now have the 10 way outlet box plugged in to a wall socket out of sight to the left and have APC 6-way plug in outlets on the two wall sockets in the picture. There are only a few left that are not in use, so I'm thinking of adding more somehow.
Nothing is permanently placed on the work table.
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With my planning of a shed/workbench this is my thinking.
For scale the little square at the end is a 48" deep and 57" wide, it would be the main workbench with a 43.5 x 48 square on either side either for server racks or just literally whatever.
This leaving about half the shed open to be anything i want it to be.
all in planning nothing concrete yet all pictures are of digital model
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Hi, I have been reading with delight this topic the last few days.
I have seen very good ideas and very well equipped labs.
I have built my bench myself to the maximal allowable space. We have to move every few years, so it had to be easy to dismantle.
To save space, I keep in shelves and drawers the instruments and tools that are not in use.
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Hi, I have been reading with delight this topic the last few days.
I have seen very good ideas and very well equipped labs.
I have built my bench myself to the maximal allowable space. We have to move every few years, so it had to be easy to dismantle.
To save space, I keep in shelves and drawers the instruments and tools that are not in use.
Nice LEADER generator and very nice PHILIPS power supply (PE1542 I think ?).
These Leader generators had a large dial, machined out of aluminum.
I have good memories, using these two items.
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Yes, the power supply is a PE1542, built like a tank :-+
Some years ago, I was looking for a Leader LAG-120A and found this LFG-1300
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Nice, neat, and compact set up you have there.
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Hi, I have been reading with delight this topic the last few days.
I have seen very good ideas and very well equipped labs.
I have built my bench myself to the maximal allowable space. We have to move every few years, so it had to be easy to dismantle.
To save space, I keep in shelves and drawers the instruments and tools that are not in use.
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If going for wheels, and if you value the floor use nylon wheels, or polyurethane though these do degrade with time. Then use some levelling feet to take the load off the wheels in use, so the wheels do not get flat spots. In not using levelling feet use locking wheels on at least the front, so it does not wander around if you knock it, or if the floor is not perfectly level. the wheels and levelling feet are cheap enough, and if using the levelling feet you can undersize the wheels as they will have less of a loading in static use.
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If going for wheels, and if you value the floor use nylon wheels, or polyurethane though these do degrade with time. Then use some levelling feet to take the load off the wheels in use, so the wheels do not get flat spots. In not using levelling feet use locking wheels on at least the front, so it does not wander around if you knock it, or if the floor is not perfectly level. the wheels and levelling feet are cheap enough, and if using the levelling feet you can undersize the wheels as they will have less of a loading in static use.
You make a good point. i should have mentioned that my office floor is unfinished concrete. I am not worried about what the metal wheels will do to the floor. I also chose the metal to avoid the flat spotting because that really is a pain in the ass. I didn't bother using locking wheels. This bench is heavy and doesn't move unless I put an effort into moving it. The floor does have a slight slant because the room was a patio that the previous owners fully enclosed. Thankfully it isn't enough to make the bench move or round parts rolling off the bench top.
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You make a good point. i should have mentioned that my office floor is unfinished concrete. I am not worried about what the metal wheels will do to the floor. I also chose the metal to avoid the flat spotting because that really is a pain in the ass. I didn't bother using locking wheels. This bench is heavy and doesn't move unless I put an effort into moving it. The floor does have a slight slant because the room was a patio that the previous owners fully enclosed. Thankfully it isn't enough to make the bench move or round parts rolling off the bench top.
Worst case, a couple of rubber door stops or similar as wheel chocks would be helpful if it did want to roll by gravity alone.
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You can always throw a beefy hand/spring clamp on 2 wheels
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Both good ideas, tablatronix and nanofrog. The bench is heavy enough that even when I want it to move, I have to work at moving it. It's not going anywhere, that's for sure. :phew:
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ferdieCX, that kind of bench is very useful. your bench looks nice. Neat and compact.
Are you working on a home made integrated audio preamp/power amp there?
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If you lived somewhere earthquakes were common, wheels could be problematic in one if there was a lot of ground motion. I've been through two big earthquakes. It's quite the experience.
(One of them was at night and there were bizarre green flashes of light in the sky).
Both good ideas, tablatronix and nanofrog. The bench is heavy enough that even when I want it to move, I have to work at moving it. It's not going anywhere, that's for sure. :phew:
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ferdieCX, that kind of bench is very useful. your bench looks nice. Neat and compact.
Are you working on a home made integrated audio preamp/power amp there?
Yes. I was tired of having problems with the switches of an amplifier from a well known brand. >:(
So, I rescued from the storage the stereo amplifier that I built in 1974 when I was 16, and it worked perfectly except for some hum. ;D
I have dismantled and rebuilt it, replacing the PCBs, resistors and capacitors.
It is the quasy-complementary design from RCA, the preamps are Philips with BJTs.
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Picked up a DMM7510, its nearly 17" long, the equipment rack is only 14" deep. So picked up a small utility cabinet to set next to my workbench for it. Not entirely happy with this arrangement yet. Id prefer to have the 7510 closer to the DUT for shorter leads and less noise.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/76ED9514-85CC-4CC0-A327-DA043455757A.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/76ED9514-85CC-4CC0-A327-DA043455757A.jpg.html)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/E7A8B748-8298-4E4F-93F1-C8A71F1CEAD7.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/E7A8B748-8298-4E4F-93F1-C8A71F1CEAD7.jpg.html)
It kind or works, its out of the way and the viewing angle is good. Only other thing I can think of is to move the filtered power distribution block and to make some shelf under the parts bin but above the earth bar and build it where the meter would still be angled slightly.
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If you lived somewhere earthquakes were common, wheels could be problematic in one if there was a lot of ground motion. I've been through two big earthquakes. It's quite the experience.
(One of them was at night and there were bizarre green flashes of light in the sky).
Both good ideas, tablatronix and nanofrog. The bench is heavy enough that even when I want it to move, I have to work at moving it. It's not going anywhere, that's for sure. :phew:
That is something I don't want to ever experience. My wife lived in the SF bay area during the 1989 earthquake. She said it was one of the scariest things she has ever been through, along with being chased by a tornado in Texas years ago and being at a convenience store 15 minutes before another tornado took it down to the concrete pad, also in Texas.
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Glad I live in the UK. Nothing interesting like that happens here. The noisiest thing was a plane crashing half a mile away from my house in 1999 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Air_Cargo_Flight_8509 ) and I didn't even notice that because I had some headphones on.
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Picked up a DMM7510, its nearly 17" long, the equipment rack is only 14" deep.
Congratulations!
Time to build deeper shelfs.
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My main test station and workspace:
(http://lygte-info.dk/pic/Equipment/DSC_4196.jpg)
I do also have a scope, it is a pico scope and do not take any space.
This selection of equipment is based on what I use at this workspace.
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"overload!" :phew:
My main test station and workspace:
(http://lygte-info.dk/pic/Equipment/DSC_4196.jpg)
I do also have a scope, it is a pico scope and do not take any space.
This selection of equipment is based on what I use at this workspace.
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"overload!" :phew:
What you cannot see is that everything is connected to the computer and I control and log data from the computer with scripts. Most scripts use more than one piece of equipment, it is easy to use a power analyzer (or AC supply), a load or more and a few DMM's for a test.
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I was in a cafe for that one, luckily it had very heavy tables in booths and as soon as I felt that unmistakable feeling I immediately got underneath mine where I sat watching the cakes and pastries one by one fall off he shelves onto the floor. The sign that all the specials, etc, was written on was attached by two huge hooks and it also was rocking so far back and forth that soon it too fell off. Everywhere , glass was breaking (and many buildings were falling off of foundations) The glass in countless windows was falling in pieces and sometimes in sheets, in some cases several stories onto the street. Miraculously, in the part of town I was in, the electrical power remained on for quite some time. (A least a half hour!) So did the telephone, long enough for me to walk around a half mile back home, and then call family members and tell them I was okay. Right afterward, the power went out everywhere.
Shortly after that the first of what was to become a huge flood of people appeared all walking home from work, a huge flood of tens of thousands of people all walking southwards and westward, completely filling Market Street.
We spent the night in Delores Park along with thousands of other people, afraid to go back indoors.
Some time later I learned that a friend had actually been on the Bay Bridge driving towards SF at the time the earthquake hit. Being in a car she did not feel it or see any shaking, however, she was alerted to the fact that things were very wrong by the fact that suddenly ahead of her cars were slowing, stopping AND THEN TURNING AROUND AND DRIVING BACK waving to her "go back go back"!!!
A that point she was close enough to see that a huge gap had opened up which a bus was precariously teetering over. Cars were stopped and turning around to drive back which she also did.
If you lived somewhere earthquakes were common, wheels could be problematic in one if there was a lot of ground motion. I've been through two big earthquakes. It's quite the experience.
(One of them was at night and there were bizarre green flashes of light in the sky).
Both good ideas, tablatronix and nanofrog. The bench is heavy enough that even when I want it to move, I have to work at moving it. It's not going anywhere, that's for sure. :phew:
That is something I don't want to ever experience. My wife lived in the SF bay area during the 1989 earthquake. She said it was one of the scariest things she has ever been through, along with being chased by a tornado in Texas years ago and being at a convenience store 15 minutes before another tornado took it down to the concrete pad, also in Texas.
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Picked up a DMM7510, its nearly 17" long, the equipment rack is only 14" deep. So picked up a small utility cabinet to set next to my workbench for it.
It requires its own shrine and does not play well with sharing it with others.
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My main test station and workspace:
Do you have a website on battery testing? If so it would be helpful if you include a link to it in your profile. Glad to see a photo of part of your setup. Keep up the good work.
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Do you have a website on battery testing? If so it would be helpful if you include a link to it in your profile.
Yes I have a website with battery testing, battery charger testing, usb charger testing, DMM testing and also some other stuff.
http://lygte-info.dk/ (http://lygte-info.dk/)
I have included it in my profile now.
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Picked up a DMM7510, its nearly 17" long, the equipment rack is only 14" deep. So picked up a small utility cabinet to set next to my workbench for it. Not entirely happy with this arrangement yet. Id prefer to have the 7510 closer to the DUT for shorter leads and less noise.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/76ED9514-85CC-4CC0-A327-DA043455757A.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/76ED9514-85CC-4CC0-A327-DA043455757A.jpg.html)
It kind or works, its out of the way and the viewing angle is good. Only other thing I can think of is to move the filtered power distribution block and to make some shelf under the parts bin but above the earth bar and build it where the meter would still be angled slightly.
It must be cold in there if your power supply needs a blanket! ::)
McBryce.
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Yes I have a website with battery testing, battery charger testing, usb charger testing, DMM testing and also some other stuff.
Wow, now that is an understatement! What an impressive array of work you have there. That’s what I call a hobby done properly. [emoji3]
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It must be cold in there if your power supply needs a blanket! ::)
McBryce.
Haha, that's a battery powered ovenized LTZ1000A reference I built, doing tempco measurements, have some ice packs to cool down the entire box to 10deg C.
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Picked up a DMM7510, its nearly 17" long, the equipment rack is only 14" deep. So picked up a small utility cabinet to set next to my workbench for it. Not entirely happy with this arrangement yet. Id prefer to have the 7510 closer to the DUT for shorter leads and less noise.
I had a similar problem when my "lab" was in a closet and I bought an old Tektronix 2247. I ended up hanging the scope from a shelf. Tilted, it doesn't stick out so far and it was easier to see when sitting at the table.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=183895;image)
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Ah, yes, I remember your hanging Tek. I like how you did that. :-+
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If that was my DIY skills I’d have a Tek shaped dent in my head within an hour of hanging it up :)
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Oh my! :-DD
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I used carabiners to hang it from the wire shelf, so I wasn't concerned that it would fall. I did worry a bit that the shelf might rip loose from the wall. I was disappointed that I couldn't come up with a similar arrangement in the new location.
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Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?... :scared:
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Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?... :scared:
Oh no I can see a sad story on the forum in the near future ...
We are sad to report that ChrisLX200 was injured when his beloved oscilloscope fell on his head. He got tangled up with a scope probe and the additional force brought the whole thing down. We think it was Channel 1. He should recover. When asked why he mounted it from the ceiling he replied that he had read the safety precautions in the manual and there was no specific warning regarding "hanging" a scope. Tektronix had no comment on the incident. :-BROKE
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Great that Chris will recover, but what about the poor oscilloscope? :o >:D
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Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?... :scared:
Works for me?
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/ADDFF339-B544-43D0-83D6-3EDFC26CDA36.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/ADDFF339-B544-43D0-83D6-3EDFC26CDA36.jpg.html)
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I had a similar problem when my "lab" was in a closet and I bought an old Tektronix 2247. I ended up hanging the scope from a shelf. Tilted, it doesn't stick out so far and it was easier to see when sitting at the table.
I also had a similar problem when I installed some shelves. I was thinking how to tilt the equipment when I accidentally dropped the shelf above on the one below. It bent the front edge of the brackets down about 4 inches which turns out to be the perfect angle. Never thought about bending the brackets but it worked out really well. The brackets were cheap quality and the shelf was very heavy. It just looks funny.
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I had to tilt the frequency counter I bought a while back because it stuck out too far. All I had to do was rotate the bail around. My shelves are 11 inches wide and they're spaced away from the wall another inch or so, but the frequency counter is over 13 inches long and needs a bit more for power cord clearance.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=254277;image)
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I had to tilt the frequency counter I bought a while back because it stuck out too far. All I had to do was rotate the bail around. My shelves are 11 inches wide and they're spaced away from the wall another inch or so, but the frequency counter is over 13 inches long and needs a bit more for power cord clearance.
FWIW, Rt. angle power cords might be of help in such situations (IEC end). :)
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Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?... :scared:
Depends what scope you have. If it's a Tektronix 555 I think I'd avoid the wires from ceiling idea :D
McBryce.
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I have an old Tek somewhat similar to the one in the previous pic which is also quite deep and clumsy to have on my small workbench, and you bet, I have thought about hanging it from its handle - tilted back at a 45 degree angle also like in the prev. pic. My scope is a 2200 series with a plastic, not metal molded handle but the handle is quite strong, also the handle has detents so when "set" in a position it doesn't move. One can set it very far backward, as in the pic, and even a bit further, resulting in the scope naturally hanging with its face pointing down at an angle. However the very last detent seems not such a good idea as the back of the scope gets too close to the handle. (have it here right now.)
With the handle at 45 however the center of gravity is such that suspended only from the handle it naturally hangs forward just enough to make it visible without straining and there is room for support that's quite strong.
You can do that by mounting several padded hooks to hang it from from a shelf above, or similar, the kind used for storing bicycles would work well. I also have some made for storing athletic equipment that are coated with soft plastics. You could also use shelf supports but you would need to adapt them with thick neoprene or similar padding covered with something a bit more durable to prevent the shelf supports from destroying the plastic handle. Neoprene covered with canvas or similar sleeves would work.
I've seen it done successfully in such a way that the scope can still easily be removed for use elsewhere when needed just by lifting it a bit so it can be brought forward.
You just need a little padded pair of hooks that are strong enough, that both face in the same direction.. Facing forward or back. Forward would best facilitate easy removal.
You could do that kind of mount for other equipment and it actually would be an excellent use of space. Once equipment is really high up its out of reach, tilting lets you have it up and out of the way but still within reach.
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You could likely extend your topmost shelves farther forward and tilt them downward a bit with a thin lip to hold stuff (plus I would also affix anchors to them just in case you get any ground movement) so the top frequency counter wasn't suspended forward like it is.
When I lived in CA. I got in the habit of attaching these very strong anchors to the sides of monitors and other big things that could cause major damage if were knocked off their shelves and fell. They were made by 3M. I don't know the name of the product, but it was sold widely for dealing with the effects of earthquakes and is STRONG. I also use it on windows where I am not confident of their locks. It's extremely strong, so strong its almost impossible to get it off of something you have put it onto. It might be able to support somebody's weight, that strong. The straps it comes with are elastic or an epoxy soaked fabric and they are also super strong but flexible. The idea is, you attach equipment on both sides downward to its shelves. And support it in its normal way, too.
Well I've run out of shelf space but now you got me thinking - hmm, a few wires hanging from the ceiling perhaps?... :scared:
We all need better cable management too - well labeled cables lend themselves to better organization.
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When I said cables I was really thinking along the lines of couple of alloy slabs screwed across two ceiling joists, maybe something like four 3/8" or 1/2" dia stainless steel rods threaded into those and dropped down to hold the shelf. It was just easier to say cables to get the idea across... Nobody ever accused me of making something not up to the job :)
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Made a shelf/protective enclosure/sound deadening device today. There is no mistaking when the power is on with the 7510. Not the ideal wood to use, but it was left over scrap. Cuts down the fan noise by about half, much better.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/C1456A68-2344-4F3C-9053-30B103F4EC96.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/C1456A68-2344-4F3C-9053-30B103F4EC96.jpg.html)
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/8C239EAF-ECB8-4D20-B8A6-3BC40E91B7B4.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/8C239EAF-ECB8-4D20-B8A6-3BC40E91B7B4.jpg.html)
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You are not used to Keithley equipment, the DMM7510 is nearly silent. My 2460 & 2280 makes much more noise in idle and when working hard they are trying to compete with a vacuum cleaner in noise levels.
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I couldn't quite figure out why you'd need to protect the DMM from sound, but then it finally dawned on my the thing itself is noisy. I may need a bit of sleep.
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I never found the 7510 too noisy on the bench.
But, as HKJ said, when the 2460 is in full power mode, it sounds like heavy work is being done.
You built an interesting cage for your 7510.
Looks more like it is well protected against something falling down on it.
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I never found the 7510 too noisy on the bench.
But, as HKJ said, when the 2460 is in full power mode, it sounds like heavy work is being done.
You built an interesting cage for your 7510.
Looks more like it is well protected against something falling down on it.
Part of it is indeed for protection, but the primary goal was to add a shelf so I could set other equipment or DUT on top of it. The noise reduction is a side benefit.
No, I'm not familiar with Keithley gear, but I can tell you I'm super impresses with the performance of this meter. I prefer the simplicity of the Keysight 34465A User Interface, but the 7510 is a real performer.
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No, I'm not familiar with Keithley gear, but I can tell you I'm super impresses with the performance of this meter. I prefer the simplicity of the Keysight 34465A User Interface, but the 7510 is a real performer.
The 7510 is a very good meter, but I cannot follow your statement about simplicity of 34465A, as you can see above I have both meters and I do not really think of the Keysight as more simple, just as a simpler meter (I have not bought all extensions).
With Keysight I have the buttons, with Keithley I have to sweep sideways to find the options, both are easy to do. Depending on option and mode one is easier than the other, but mostly Keithley wins for me.
For logging from my computer Keysight wins (Big time), due to the lower noise, this also means I have many Keysight bench DMM's, but only one Keithley DMM.
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No, I'm not familiar with Keithley gear, but I can tell you I'm super impresses with the performance of this meter. I prefer the simplicity of the Keysight 34465A User Interface, but the 7510 is a real performer.
The 7510 is a very good meter, but I cannot follow your statement about simplicity of 34465A, as you can see above I have both meters and I do not really think of the Keysight as more simple, just as a simpler meter (I have not bought all extensions).
With Keysight I have the buttons, with Keithley I have to sweep sideways to find the options, both are easy to do. Depending on option and mode one is easier than the other, but mostly Keithley wins for me.
For logging from my computer Keysight wins (Big time), due to the lower noise, this also means I have many Keysight bench DMM's, but only one Keithley DMM.
I just seem to agree with the menu layout and structure with the Keysight more, but I have only had the Keithley a few days now. Still learning my way around it.
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I did move my workbench to new dedicated space and "lab" is forming.
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Nice calculator. 8)
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Nice calculator. 8)
Do you mean that black beeping stopwatch? ;D
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Sorry to join this aspect of the thread so late, but when it comes to hanging gear from the ceiling and putting stuff at odd angles you can't beat Mr Carlson's Lab:
Goodness knows what will happen to that place if an earthquake hits!
https://i0.wp.com/repairhelper.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/tb1-EF_F2Rk.jpg
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Sorry to join this aspect of the thread so late, but when it comes to hanging gear from the ceiling and putting stuff at odd angles you can't beat Mr Carlson's Lab:
Goodness knows what will happen to that place if an earthquake hits!
https://i0.wp.com/repairhelper.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/tb1-EF_F2Rk.jpg
Wow, he has an HP175a! That was my first real scope back when I was 10. That brings back memories.
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It's been said i have too many multimeters, i can't imagine why..
I have 6 multimeters in congruence down to the 3rd decimal place, 1.261
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Not enough multimeters yet. You haven't got to the ceiling :-DD
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Not enough multimeters yet. You haven't got to the ceiling :-DD
Thats what i said! :-DD
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It's been said i have too many multimeters, i can't imagine why..
I have 6 multimeters in congruence down to the 3rd decimal place, 1.261
There is no upper limit for multimeter quantities
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Not enough multimeters yet. You haven't got to the ceiling :-DD
The secret is stacking them next to each other, so you won't reach the ceiling any time soon.
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Wall-o-meters! :-+
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It's been said i have too many multimeters, i can't imagine why..
Your name here should be nem not neo (not enough multimeters). :-//
I have 6 multimeters in congruence down to the 3rd decimal place, 1.261
I'm lovin' it! :clap:
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It's been said i have too many multimeters, i can't imagine why..
Your name here should be nem not neo (not enough multimeters). :-//
I have 6 multimeters in congruence down to the 3rd decimal place, 1.261
I'm lovin' it! :clap:
You are right, it should be nem i just happen to like neo better.
I'd have 7 but the 8000A is too jumpy.
Wall-o-meters! :-+
The top 4, Fairchild 7050 Fluke 8050A, Fluke 8010A, Fluke 8000A, are zip tied together for extra stability, so that statement is fairly accurate :-DD
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Cool screen setup, too.
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Cool screen setup, too.
The left and right monitors are Dell 2415 I bought 1.5 years ago from Amazon. The center 30'' U3011 is acquired as second hand. Had to drive 460 miles to pick it up -- the seller refused to ship such a large monitor, so I had to pick it up.
The scope was also picked up in person -- from somewhere 650 miles away.
That is a rather nice set up, i currently have a 1080p 144hz monitor in the center (i game electronics isn't my only hobby) with a 1080p in portrait to it's left and a crt to it's right.
My dream monitor set up would be 3 1080Ps with 4 1440Ps on top in portrait and a big 32 inch 'professional' 4k monitor above those. I like my screen space :-//
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Cool screen setup, too.
The left and right monitors are Dell 2415 I bought 1.5 years ago from Amazon. The center 30'' U3011 is acquired as second hand. Had to drive 460 miles to pick it up -- the seller refused to ship such a large monitor, so I had to pick it up.
The scope was also picked up in person -- from somewhere 650 miles away.
I see some photocopied books on your bookshelf, I think they are limited to sales in China only, did you have any trouble getting them into the United States?
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I do not think I have uploaded picture here.
Everybody has a nice bench, mine is more like a desk for my computers with soldering tools.
I asked my wife to take picture when I was updating my project yesterday.
https://github.com/DCoJA/yatagarasu-red (https://github.com/DCoJA/yatagarasu-red)
I am very good at loosing composts and tools even they are on my desk somewhere :)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=379378)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=379380)
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Everybody has a nice bench, mine is more like a desk for my computers with soldering tools.
Nice to see something from fanOfeeDIY. Reminds me to add a statement about you to the bottom of the YT (I forgot).
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I do not think I have uploaded picture here.
Everybody has a nice bench, mine is more like a desk for my computers with soldering tools.
I asked my wife to take picture when I was updating my project yesterday.
https://github.com/DCoJA/yatagarasu-red (https://github.com/DCoJA/yatagarasu-red)
I am very good at loosing composts and tools even they are on my desk somewhere :)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=379378)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=379380)
I like a lot the way you covered the camera in the arm of the lamp. My wife also likes it.
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Everybody has a nice bench, mine is more like a desk for my computers with soldering tools.
Hi fanOfeeDIY, I do not see any scopes. I would expect to see at least a dozen since you are the "scope" guy
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/digital-oscilloscope-comparison-chart/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/digital-oscilloscope-comparison-chart/)
Do you have one and what is it (again since you are the scope guy).
Do you make videos? Maybe that is a camera hanging off the lamp?
thanks
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Everybody has a nice bench, mine is more like a desk for my computers with soldering tools.
Hi fanOfeeDIY, I do not see any scopes. I would expect to see at least a dozen since you are the "scope" guy
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/digital-oscilloscope-comparison-chart/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/digital-oscilloscope-comparison-chart/)
Do you have one and what is it (again since you are the scope guy).
I noticed that too, maybe he has a USB one tucked away in a drawer. :-//
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I am looking into a <$50 scope.
Some potentials to look at:- Tek 2205 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-2-Channel-20-MHz-Oscilloscope-2205-with-Probe-Power-Cord-Manual/332489559824?epid=96943649&hash=item4d69ec0f10:g:PlYAAOSwgbhaNUH4) (2ch, 20Mhz)
- GW Instek GOS-620 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/GW-Instek-GOS-620-Analog-Oscilloscope-/162808408490?) (2ch, 20Mhz)
- Telequipment D54 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telequipment-D54-Oscilloscope-See-Pix-Lowest-price-I-will-do/332450107364?hash=item4d67920fe4:g:ZzkAAOSwHYpaC3pr) (2ch, 10Mhz)
- Hitachi-V-152B (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitachi-V-152B-15Mhz-2-Channel-Oscilloscope/132426145174?hash=item1ed5369d96:g:FFMAAOSwnDpaKL3j) (2ch, 15Mhz)
Edit: Updated link to GW Instek (relisted). Hitachi's listing has ended w/ 0 bids.
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I am looking into a <$50 scope.
Some potentials to look at:- Tek 2205 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-2-Channel-20-MHz-Oscilloscope-2205-with-Probe-Power-Cord-Manual/332489559824?epid=96943649&hash=item4d69ec0f10:g:PlYAAOSwgbhaNUH4) (2ch, 20Mhz)
- GW Instek GOS-620 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/GW-Instek-GOS-620-Analog-Oscilloscope/162799542609?epid=96992167&hash=item25e79be151:g:Yi0AAOSwSutaL2FR) (2ch, 20Mhz)
- Telequipment D54 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telequipment-D54-Oscilloscope-See-Pix-Lowest-price-I-will-do/332450107364?hash=item4d67920fe4:g:ZzkAAOSwHYpaC3pr) (2ch, 10Mhz)
- Hitachi-V-152B (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitachi-V-152B-15Mhz-2-Channel-Oscilloscope/132426145174?hash=item1ed5369d96:g:FFMAAOSwnDpaKL3j) (2ch, 15Mhz)
Just my personal opinion but if i were you i would steer clear of the Hitachi and go straight for the Tek.
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I am looking into a <$50 scope.
Some potentials to look at:- Tek 2205 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tektronix-2-Channel-20-MHz-Oscilloscope-2205-with-Probe-Power-Cord-Manual/332489559824?epid=96943649&hash=item4d69ec0f10:g:PlYAAOSwgbhaNUH4) (2ch, 20Mhz)
- GW Instek GOS-620 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/GW-Instek-GOS-620-Analog-Oscilloscope/162799542609?epid=96992167&hash=item25e79be151:g:Yi0AAOSwSutaL2FR) (2ch, 20Mhz)
- Telequipment D54 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Telequipment-D54-Oscilloscope-See-Pix-Lowest-price-I-will-do/332450107364?hash=item4d67920fe4:g:ZzkAAOSwHYpaC3pr) (2ch, 10Mhz)
- Hitachi-V-152B (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hitachi-V-152B-15Mhz-2-Channel-Oscilloscope/132426145174?hash=item1ed5369d96:g:FFMAAOSwnDpaKL3j) (2ch, 15Mhz)
Just my personal opinion but if i were you i would steer clear of the Hitachi and go straight for the Tek.
I'll add another vote for the Tek.
-Pat
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I like a lot the way you covered the camera in the arm of the lamp. My wife also likes it.
My wife started to cover the camera, my desk is widely connected to the living room.
She did not seem to like the shape. :)
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Hi fanOfeeDIY, I do not see any scopes. I would expect to see at least a dozen since you are the "scope" guy
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/digital-oscilloscope-comparison-chart/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/digital-oscilloscope-comparison-chart/)
Do you have one and what is it (again since you are the scope guy).
Thanks,
Yes, I bought DSO-X 2000 series about two years ago I think.
I wish I am more scope guy. :)
Do you make videos? Maybe that is a camera hanging off the lamp?
thanks
The camera hanging on the lamp was for video conferences in some of my previous jobs.
Oh one of the community activity in the past was attending on youtube streaming like this one.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByMMzrSQD4f5cUN3dWt1S0VPMUU (https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByMMzrSQD4f5cUN3dWt1S0VPMUU)
I have made some videos by myself in Japanese but never uploaded to anywhere. :)
Maybe I should start editing them and uploading them.
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I noticed that too, maybe he has a USB one tucked away in a drawer. :-//
:)
Well, I maybe need to start thinking how could be more financially successful to have more scopes.
One of the biggest advantage I feel of USB-scope is it is isolated from ground, when
connecting to laptop PC when powered by battery.
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My wife started to cover the camera, my desk is widely connected to the living room.
She did not seem to like the shape. :)
Covering a camera, especially one that has a good view of your daily movements, is a sensible move
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Just my personal opinion but if i were you i would steer clear of the Hitachi and go straight for the Tek.
I'll add another vote for the Tek.
Absolutely. :-+
Unfortunately I suspect it'll exceed the desired ~$50 budget before shipping (closer to double I think), so wanted to offer up some options just in case.
In regard to the Hitachi, the listing has ended without a single bid.
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might be hard to see. but my bench is 12' long got 2 dig scopes (100mhz and a 50mhz) 2 PSU, 520mhz sig gen, 18ghz freq counter, ifr1200s super
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might be hard to see. but my bench is 12' long got 2 dig scopes (100mhz and a 50mhz) 2 PSU, 520mhz sig gen, 18ghz freq counter, ifr1200s super
Nice. I would appreciate a 12" long bench but would also find a way to clutter it unfortunately. But you found artificial gravity too! Your pic turned up upside down or should I lay off the eggnog.... :-DD
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Good use of the ceiling, I always think to make more efficient use of it.
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Good use of the ceiling, I always think to make more efficient use of it.
He is just respectful that this is an Australian forum. Getting things right is important.
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Or maybe his camera is made in Australia.
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There is nothing wrong with that picture!
Except WAY TOO much uncluttered bench space. HiHi
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Wow, he finally managed to repair that anti gravity generator.... :-DD
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Or maybe his camera is made in Australia.
I am thinking the picture may have been taken there and brought back to the North. ;)
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Or maybe his camera is made in Australia.
Or he is on the bottom side of the flat earth. :-DD
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
you're just holding it wrong
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Wun Hung Upside Down.
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
you're just holding it wrong
that is what I thought at first as well... however that it not the case. no matter how it is held it always shows upside down.
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
My LG-V20 wants the phone to be on it's side with the shutter button at the lower left.
:)
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
My LG-V20 wants the phone to be on it's side with the shutter button at the lower left.
:)
My Galaxy S7 Edge wants to be on it's side with the button at the lower right.
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Galaxy s6 happy either direction.
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might be hard to see. but my bench is 12' long got 2 dig scopes (100mhz and a 50mhz) 2 PSU, 520mhz sig gen, 18ghz freq counter, ifr1200s super
Here is a picture of W2NAP's house - this explains his bench
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
My LG-V20 wants the phone to be on it's side with the shutter button at the lower left.
:)
My Galaxy S7 Edge wants to be on it's side with the button at the lower right.
I prefer those wide format pictures over the Barn Door pictures so many people take with their i-Phones.
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Here is a picture of W2NAP's house - this explains his bench
Yea, but if he ever gets a Rigol DSA-815 the .jpg screen shot should end up right side up, so that would be a plus. :-DD
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I prefer those wide format pictures over the Barn Door pictures so many people take with their i-Phones.
It makes me want tear my hair out when idiots record video in portrait orientation, constantly panning back and forth and more often than not being 180 degrees out of phase with whatever is happening. I feel the urge to smack them upside the head with a 2x4.
|O :rant: :palm:
-Pat
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might be hard to see. but my bench is 12' long got 2 dig scopes (100mhz and a 50mhz) 2 PSU, 520mhz sig gen, 18ghz freq counter, ifr1200s super
Here is a picture of W2NAP's house - this explains his bench
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=187.0;attach=381811;image)
OK, now it all makes sense. Thanks, ez24.
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I prefer those wide format pictures over the Barn Door pictures so many people take with their i-Phones.
It makes me want tear my hair out when idiots record video in portrait orientation, constantly panning back and forth and more often than not being 180 degrees out of phase with whatever is happening. I feel the urge to smack them upside the head with a 2x4.
Agreed. There was even a public service announcement about the problem. Here it is in case anyone missed it. ^-^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA)
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I prefer those wide format pictures over the Barn Door pictures so many people take with their i-Phones.
It makes me want tear my hair out when idiots record video in portrait orientation, constantly panning back and forth and more often than not being 180 degrees out of phase with whatever is happening. I feel the urge to smack them upside the head with a 2x4.
Agreed. There was even a public service announcement about the problem. Here it is in case anyone missed it. ^-^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA)
Lol, I guess I'm on a wanted list then! :palm:
https://youtu.be/Q0OfISezrsU (https://youtu.be/Q0OfISezrsU)
I occasionally mix and match depending on what I want to achieve. ;D
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
I saved a copy of the image to my computer, and it displays correctly with two different image viewing applications. But Windows file icons shows upside down. Very strange.
I lightened the image and resized it and will post to see what happens with the orientation.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=381819;image)
Well, that worked. There is an orientation flag in jpeg files. Apparently your phone doesn't get it right.
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@tom45, looks like a great place to do some projects!
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What a nifty house. Where is it?
That has to go into my POI list (places to visit on trips in the future if I am anywhere nearby) I can understand why it was built, weird zoning laws being what they are. Also, is it in tornado country?
might be hard to see. but my bench is 12' long got 2 dig scopes (100mhz and a 50mhz) 2 PSU, 520mhz sig gen, 18ghz freq counter, ifr1200s super
Here is a picture of W2NAP's house - this explains his bench
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=187.0;attach=381811;image)
OK, now it all makes sense. Thanks, ez24.
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What a nifty house. Where is it?
That has to go into my POI list (places to visit on trips in the future if I am anywhere nearby) I can understand why it was built, weird zoning laws being what they are. Also, is it in tornado country?
might be hard to see. but my bench is 12' long got 2 dig scopes (100mhz and a 50mhz) 2 PSU, 520mhz sig gen, 18ghz freq counter, ifr1200s super
Here is a picture of W2NAP's house - this explains his bench
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=187.0;attach=381811;image)
OK, now it all makes sense. Thanks, ez24.
I think this one is on the underside of Earth's disc.
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
Well, that worked. There is an orientation flag in jpeg files. Apparently your phone doesn't get it right.
my cheap phone is cheap. only use it for work contact.
@tom45, looks like a great place to do some projects!
that was the plan.
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@W2NAP
some laughing people sitting in front of their desktops don't know, what a context-menu (right-mouse-button) can do for them with those pictures ... :-DD :-DD :-DD
;) By the way, nice place for projects :-+
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phone i got always flips the image upside down. maybe the phone camera is made down under..
Well, that worked. There is an orientation flag in jpeg files. Apparently your phone doesn't get it right.
my cheap phone is cheap. only use it for work contact.
@tom45, looks like a great place to do some projects!
that was the plan.
Some of the early cheaper phones got the jpeg orientation wrong if you turned off the automatic screen rotation feature.
McBryce.
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that is what I thought at first as well... however that it not the case. no matter how it is held it always shows upside down.
The phone saves the intended orientation (usually based on its acceleration sensor, or an orientation switch inside most other cameras) in an EXIF-Tag within the metadata of those pictures. Some software used for viewing pictures does respect that, some doesn´t, some have an option to do so. If you now rotate the image to match what you see... this information may stay unaltered. For Windows as OS, i´d recommend using a program like irfanview to do some basic editing (rotating, color correction, cropping), it offers many options when loading or saving a file.
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Many pictures, mostly iPhones, also have GPS coordinates in these EXIFs. Hopely one is aware that the exact address was published.
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The uploaded picture itself displays correct according to it´s included orientation tag. Its either the forum or the browser that shows them upside down.
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My bench is clean, the HL-2200 is gone, I am going to let it rest for a day (or two) before getting back on the HP-8569B project.
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constantly panning back and forth and more often than not being 180 degrees out of phase with whatever is happening.
This may explain why, with the rise of cell phones with video record, there are actually fewer UFO videos than there were before cell phones. Something about cell phones causes people to be usually pointing them in the wrong direction.
/jk
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This may explain why, with the rise of cell phones with video record, there are actually fewer UFO videos than there were before cell phones. Something about cell phones causes people to be usually pointing them in the wrong direction.
I knew it! Cell phones are an alien conspiracy against human kind. Someday the aliens will be able to control us via our phones (via brain waves). Am I the first to say this? (going to lock up my phone now).
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This may explain why, with the rise of cell phones with video record, there are actually fewer UFO videos than there were before cell phones. Something about cell phones causes people to be usually pointing them in the wrong direction.
I knew it! Cell phones are an alien conspiracy against human kind. Someday the aliens will be able to control us via our phones (via brain waves). Am I the first to say this? (going to lock up my phone now).
Nah. We're probably already under alien brain wave influence already. :o :-DD
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really enjoy this thread start to finish! here is my setup as of this dec 2017, work in progress as all of ours ours! lets see how it changes by this time next year. :popcorn:
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really enjoy this thread start to finish! here is my setup as of this dec 2017, work in progress as all of ours ours! lets see how it changes by this time next year. :popcorn:
Looks like mine SHOULD look - nice
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really enjoy this thread start to finish! here is my setup as of this dec 2017, work in progress as all of ours ours! lets see how it changes by this time next year. :popcorn:
Nice and tidy :-+
But, "next year" (2019), you need more space :horse:
;) ;)
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3 windows? :o You freakin' suck! ;D
I've a whopping 1.5 (1 whole window & 0.5 as I had to install a window A/C unit to accommodate the the heat generated by both my computer & lab bench gear).
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really enjoy this thread start to finish! here is my setup as of this dec 2017, work in progress as all of ours ours! lets see how it changes by this time next year. :popcorn:
Very nice bench, not really deep enough for me.
I like a 48" deep bench. (1.4 meters give or take)
It makes working on larger items easier.
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Very nice bench, not really deep enough for me.
I like a 48" deep bench. (1.4 meters give or take)
It makes working on larger items easier.
I guess that depends on your level of addiction to boat anchors :)
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really enjoy this thread start to finish! here is my setup as of this dec 2017, work in progress as all of ours ours! lets see how it changes by this time next year. :popcorn:
Looks really nice. You have plenty of room to expand.
I want some of those red metal drawers. Where did you get them?
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Looks really nice. You have plenty of room to expand.
I want some of those red metal drawers. Where did you get them?
I was jonesing on those drawers too. I just put in some real knee banger, under the bench, drawers that were a nightmare to install, and those drawers would have been so much easier and have more room.
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Quote from: Mr. Scram on Today at 06:02:39 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385709#msg1385709)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Today at 05:58:09 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385705#msg1385705)
Very nice bench, not really deep enough for me.
I like a 48" deep bench. (1.4 meters give or take)
It makes working on larger items easier.
I guess that depends on your level of addiciton to boat anchors :)
Indeed and considering my latest acquisition, I would need more than a deep bench.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/owSSS7J4CpZmCpfjeAa_YMODDW-80mufoWM-GZ_9qY3FCKnwzXh6pCdF1hOnc38C1lHDJzUIptBQeE2m61VE1dwXlXvn2gDr-Mh1zh4S0WUvPsGquAcTQkuOCCYuMBzeuwtplKRVbyEgAy_yQaaZce6j-qz9MB_rItT3JSBTyKMo6MTS6q5v_wXVixscxma1l3JSO09zwbpBNSFwvzY49DPqnKOrvNihbD6KVDZrgIr_22WOCsgGTVqmAG4vSLlkcOe1Eng5_7nt596CIjeaqTwGc3lfcfMjcVfnF59eUSKPBB422E2qeKJTvj_BtHhIvkwBJDIX-P7r_G-iGW_4nlqciPwN2v8zDZB8rs5Rii6OjK7_oQGGz6H67-6-dNxNLC2afid7Gf6pbGBEl887rkSG-7r5sgaU6hVrFvDpWzDwA8JOvI39b0_ru5RCgJijwIDItzYujhL-Esm9Mp60Nhsf8ssTueK7MaDG5tR_fbdK2EHUbbfPI_0CYeiJQIWWUdR08cS1_w9CilvIe5rl4d3KmnAK_-8SOcF3A7vhVwh9K8VbinHF1Ie5gwk6zmt5SrZTJos-9fePzoWcuPQbESlA5SYMOAnmDAojqCI=w986-h739-no)
I was making plans on how to get the 3KA from the garage to the shack today.
There is going to need to be some changes here to accommodate this amplifier. :)
And Yes there is some repair necessary.
Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
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really enjoy this thread start to finish! here is my setup as of this dec 2017, work in progress as all of ours ours! lets see how it changes by this time next year. :popcorn:
Very nice bench, not really deep enough for me.
I like a 48" deep bench. (1.4 meters give or take)
It makes working on larger items easier.
thats a pretty deep bench! built mine at 36", which for me seems like a ton of space! shelves are 17 1/4" deep which allows the tek 2225 plus a little.
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really enjoy this thread start to finish! here is my setup as of this dec 2017, work in progress as all of ours ours! lets see how it changes by this time next year. :popcorn:
Looks really nice. You have plenty of room to expand.
I want some of those red metal drawers. Where did you get them?
harbor freight. dont let that discourage you their red tool boxe lines are a really nice build quality, heavy metal, nice ball slides, etc.
heres the specific one I have:https://www.harborfreight.com/18-in-7-drawer-glossy-red-end-cabinet-for-roller-tool-chest-68785.html] [url]https://www.harborfreight.com/18-in-7-drawer-glossy-red-end-cabinet-for-roller-tool-chest-68785.html (http://[url)[/url]
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3 windows? :o You freakin' suck! ;D
I've a whopping 1.5 (1 whole window & 0.5 as I had to install a window A/C unit to accommodate the the heat generated by both my computer & lab bench gear).
you got .5 more then i got.. i just have 1 window
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Quote from: Mr. Scram on Today at 06:02:39 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385709#msg1385709)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Today at 05:58:09 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385705#msg1385705)Very nice bench, not really deep enough for me.
I like a 48" deep bench. (1.4 meters give or take)
It makes working on larger items easier.
I guess that depends on your level of addiciton to boat anchors :)
Indeed and considering my latest acquisition, I would need more than a deep bench.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/owSSS7J4CpZmCpfjeAa_YMODDW-80mufoWM-GZ_9qY3FCKnwzXh6pCdF1hOnc38C1lHDJzUIptBQeE2m61VE1dwXlXvn2gDr-Mh1zh4S0WUvPsGquAcTQkuOCCYuMBzeuwtplKRVbyEgAy_yQaaZce6j-qz9MB_rItT3JSBTyKMo6MTS6q5v_wXVixscxma1l3JSO09zwbpBNSFwvzY49DPqnKOrvNihbD6KVDZrgIr_22WOCsgGTVqmAG4vSLlkcOe1Eng5_7nt596CIjeaqTwGc3lfcfMjcVfnF59eUSKPBB422E2qeKJTvj_BtHhIvkwBJDIX-P7r_G-iGW_4nlqciPwN2v8zDZB8rs5Rii6OjK7_oQGGz6H67-6-dNxNLC2afid7Gf6pbGBEl887rkSG-7r5sgaU6hVrFvDpWzDwA8JOvI39b0_ru5RCgJijwIDItzYujhL-Esm9Mp60Nhsf8ssTueK7MaDG5tR_fbdK2EHUbbfPI_0CYeiJQIWWUdR08cS1_w9CilvIe5rl4d3KmnAK_-8SOcF3A7vhVwh9K8VbinHF1Ie5gwk6zmt5SrZTJos-9fePzoWcuPQbESlA5SYMOAnmDAojqCI=w986-h739-no)
I was making plans on how to get the 3KA from the garage to the shack today.
There is going to need to be some changes here to accommodate this amplifier. :)
And Yes there is some repair necessary.
Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
wait for 24" of snow to fall and build a ice ramp to the door.......
oh yeah snow not exist down there..
ok next plan. fork lift.
those henry 3K be heavy
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Quote from: JustSquareEnough on Today at 08:46:37 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385804#msg1385804)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Today at 05:58:09 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385705#msg1385705)>Quote from: JustSquareEnough on Yesterday at 06:54:46 PM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385367#msg1385367)
really enjoy this thread start to finish! here is my setup as of this dec 2017, work in progress as all of ours ours! lets see how it changes by this time next year. :popcorn:
Very nice bench, not really deep enough for me.
I like a 48" deep bench. (1.4 meters give or take)
It makes working on larger items easier.
thats a pretty deep bench! built mine at 36", which for me seems like a ton of space! shelves are 17 1/4" deep which allows the tek 2225 plus a little.
Here is my bench in it's clean state. (seldom seen)
This is an old picture and the receiver on the end was moved. in favor of a stack of HP Iron.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/s8tPX1YyOwPhzc-bJmVBOxMaS-fZG1fIaukXYjA47t8_37l-zU06nFVMSLk2HO5XMCdzSdJL1GmytLj0CwAr2GSGy8u26SnCg8vwxV9uMQjYSYklIdJ_7AXRkYgxuVpTeeYfPi-WK7Q_-LgEuKf6LLtWGazr_VSXCeRjXQJAbyZ_aezO4Eo2E1BqV1U5hkJH-S22ihNk3WN2NeYKAVQGV_MzO3miFsPgFuhs-coqO3Xpmdid4S5StsIRt_zRkjnitdJ065KiJwe1Wkj9_Gr4VQaWi-hRMHtqIqtmPvIy196xjNjrVnoEtvqzS1JqchyzEyV6eyG5dtvanM-h_1IJQ2DCv7AtllJoQoF5uMNF9RUlvwVaDCqmAR3uU84uqc8ewJ-gbphvmklFAQ6fQvprmfN1JWXzSxZVNk8RZWkg63KCNaKOb39suHxaO3DUouZLId7WBwSS0ZG1kbcje9rDD1JxueV9fuuC_ppePm5_tU7Fb4KUdjJyycq1LVermltttzWLHwoF-nhrPpJdONy7VXTk607PLYb4MwOzmanrthAbOQ1oLB2x4SOACDIbc-h13TLxdIFrnaGxrXWpBzK7dcPRhVM_dVhEhuUdghE=w986-h739-no)
This desk is 48" deep with the last 16" being shelf space.
This works well for me.
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Quote from: W2NAP on Today at 08:59:34 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385820#msg1385820)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Today at 08:27:58 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385787#msg1385787)>Quote from: Mr. Scram on Today at 06:02:39 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385709#msg1385709)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Today at 05:58:09 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385705#msg1385705)
Very nice bench, not really deep enough for me.
I like a 48" deep bench. (1.4 meters give or take)
It makes working on larger items easier.
I guess that depends on your level of addiciton to boat anchors :)
Indeed and considering my latest acquisition, I would need more than a deep bench.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/owSSS7J4CpZmCpfjeAa_YMODDW-80mufoWM-GZ_9qY3FCKnwzXh6pCdF1hOnc38C1lHDJzUIptBQeE2m61VE1dwXlXvn2gDr-Mh1zh4S0WUvPsGquAcTQkuOCCYuMBzeuwtplKRVbyEgAy_yQaaZce6j-qz9MB_rItT3JSBTyKMo6MTS6q5v_wXVixscxma1l3JSO09zwbpBNSFwvzY49DPqnKOrvNihbD6KVDZrgIr_22WOCsgGTVqmAG4vSLlkcOe1Eng5_7nt596CIjeaqTwGc3lfcfMjcVfnF59eUSKPBB422E2qeKJTvj_BtHhIvkwBJDIX-P7r_G-iGW_4nlqciPwN2v8zDZB8rs5Rii6OjK7_oQGGz6H67-6-dNxNLC2afid7Gf6pbGBEl887rkSG-7r5sgaU6hVrFvDpWzDwA8JOvI39b0_ru5RCgJijwIDItzYujhL-Esm9Mp60Nhsf8ssTueK7MaDG5tR_fbdK2EHUbbfPI_0CYeiJQIWWUdR08cS1_w9CilvIe5rl4d3KmnAK_-8SOcF3A7vhVwh9K8VbinHF1Ie5gwk6zmt5SrZTJos-9fePzoWcuPQbESlA5SYMOAnmDAojqCI=w986-h739-no)
I was making plans on how to get the 3KA from the garage to the shack today.
There is going to need to be some changes here to accommodate this amplifier. :)
And Yes there is some repair necessary.
Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
wait for 24" of snow to fall and build a ice ramp to the door.......
oh yeah snow not exist down there..
ok next plan. fork lift.
those henry 3K be heavy
Heavy as Hell :)
I have it figured out. I won't even have to pull the plate transformer.
The upcoming repair on this amp involves the output network band switch.
I will most likely post the repair work over on E-Ham http://www.eham.net/ (http://www.eham.net/) Since QRZ.com's head moderator has issues with me after telling me "to go F myself". Females who know something about electronics are not welcome over there.
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Since QRZ.com's head moderator has issues with me after telling me "to go F myself". Females who know something about electronics are not welcome over there.
Really ? :o
That's real bad and very sad. :--
Sue, you've given us a lot, please don't go anywhere.
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Since QRZ.com's head moderator has issues with me after telling me "to go F myself". Females who know something about electronics are not welcome over there.
Really ? :o
That's real bad and very sad. :--
Sue, you've given us a lot, please don't go anywhere.
I don't plan on going anywhere.
I always try to give value to the forums I belong to. :)
Thanks. :)
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"I will most likely post the repair work over on E-Ham http://www.eham.net/ (http://www.eham.net/) Since QRZ.com's head moderator has issues with me after telling me "to go F myself". Females who know something about electronics are not welcome over there."
Eham's gain is QRZ.com's loss. You could always submit it as an article rather than a post in the 'Amplifiers' section.
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"I will most likely post the repair work over on E-Ham http://www.eham.net/ (http://www.eham.net/) Since QRZ.com's head moderator has issues with me after telling me "to go F myself". Females who know something about electronics are not welcome over there."
Eham's gain is QRZ.com's loss. You could always submit it as an article rather than a post in the 'Amplifiers' section.
I have thought about doing an article instead of a repair thread.
One thing I like is the interaction between the other posters who show up and provide their opinions and ideas.
The QRZ thread on my SB-220 rehab was a great example.
The thread on the building of a 600W solid state amplifier was another great example Ripley's project ran into problems and several of us stepped in to give him some good advice on dealing with his subsystem integration issues. He was having RF getting in where it did not belong causing all kinds of havoc.
I have been giving serious thought to posting the HL-2200 amplifier rebuild and modification as an article over there on E-Ham. I gave a presentation on the amplifier at our club, it was well received.
The owner of the HL-2200 is very pleased with its outcome.
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Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
Test gear which, if I'm not mistaken, is probably more often than not also of the 'hook a chain to it, throw it overboard and it'll hold the Nimitz in place through a typhoon' variety as well...
:P
-Pat
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Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
Test gear which, if I'm not mistaken, is probably more often than not also of the 'hook a chain to it, throw it overboard and it'll hold the Nimitz in place through a typhoon' variety as well...
:P
-Pat
Actually it use to be that way back in the eighties and early nineties.
These days I have only a few vacuum tube pieces of gear, all the rest is solid state.
Still mostly HP Iron.
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Quote from: W2NAP on Today at 08:59:34 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385820#msg1385820)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Today at 08:27:58 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385787#msg1385787)>Quote from: Mr. Scram on Today at 06:02:39 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385709#msg1385709)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Today at 05:58:09 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385705#msg1385705)Very nice bench, not really deep enough for me.
I like a 48" deep bench. (1.4 meters give or take)
It makes working on larger items easier.
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wait for 24" of snow to fall and build a ice ramp to the door.......
oh yeah snow not exist down there..
ok next plan. fork lift.
those henry 3K be heavy
Heavy as Hell :)
I have it figured out. I won't even have to pull the plate transformer.
The upcoming repair on this amp involves the output network band switch.
I will most likely post the repair work over on E-Ham http://www.eham.net/ (http://www.eham.net/) Since QRZ.com's head moderator has issues with me after telling me "to go F myself". Females who know something about electronics are not welcome over there.
AF6LJ, your problem is solved! Here's Red Green to show you how a home-built forklift is easy to do...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgWQCfiVb8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPgWQCfiVb8)
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Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
Test gear which, if I'm not mistaken, is probably more often than not also of the 'hook a chain to it, throw it overboard and it'll hold the Nimitz in place through a typhoon' variety as well...
:P
-Pat
Actually it use to be that way back in the eighties and early nineties.
These days I have only a few vacuum tube pieces of gear, all the rest is solid state.
Still mostly HP Iron.
Most of mine is solid state HP as well. It still has the mass of a neutron star and I think qualifies for boat anchor status based on density alone. :-DD
-Pat
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What is your cats name AF6LJ ?
His feet really make him the dapper cat.
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I was making plans on how to get the 3KA from the garage to the shack today.
There is going to need to be some changes here to accommodate this amplifier. :)
And Yes there is some repair necessary.
Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
Just out of curiosity, but the quotes in your posts always look messed up on my end. Do you perhaps use another method to quote people I'm not aware of?
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Quote from: Mr. Scram on Yesterday at 11:58:25 PM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386454#msg1386454)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Yesterday at 08:27:58 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385787#msg1385787)
I was making plans on how to get the 3KA from the garage to the shack today.
There is going to need to be some changes here to accommodate this amplifier. :)
And Yes there is some repair necessary.
Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
Just out of curiosity, but the quotes in your posts always look messed up on my end. Do you perhaps use another method to quote people I'm not aware of?
I am not sure what is going on here...
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Something having to do with how this new version of FireFox interacts with this forum software.
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Quote from: Cubdriver on Yesterday at 07:07:35 PM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386361#msg1386361)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Yesterday at 03:28:32 PM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386209#msg1386209)>Quote from: Cubdriver on Yesterday at 01:32:47 PM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386111#msg1386111)>Quote from: AF6LJ on Yesterday at 08:27:58 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1385787#msg1385787)
Oh and my addiction to boat anchors is second only to my addiction to test gear. :D
Test gear which, if I'm not mistaken, is probably more often than not also of the 'hook a chain to it, throw it overboard and it'll hold the Nimitz in place through a typhoon' variety as well...
:P
-Pat
Actually it use to be that way back in the eighties and early nineties.
These days I have only a few vacuum tube pieces of gear, all the rest is solid state.
Still mostly HP Iron.
Most of mine is solid state HP as well. It still has the mass of a neutron star and I think qualifies for boat anchor status based on density alone. :-DD
-Pat
Oh it certainly does.
My 8569 weighs in at 65 LBS...
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Something having to do with how this new version of FireFox interacts with this forum software.
Somehow something is injecting blockquote tags into the posts.
Just to check, are others seeing the messed up formatting too? I've just tried quoting someone on the latest x86 version of Firefox and that seems to work fine. I think I've seen it happening to one other member too, so maybe we can figure out what's going on.
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Sometimes I see the quotes one way, sometimes the other.
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Sometimes I see the quotes one way, sometimes the other.
Yeah, those are AF6LJ's quotes, which are broken for me too. There seem to be different tags injected.
AF6LJ, do you happen to use any third party software to post on the forums?
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Quote from: Mr. Scram on Today at 06:10:31 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386677#msg1386677)>Quote from: rdl on Today at 05:43:45 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386660#msg1386660)
Sometimes I see the quotes one way, sometimes the other.
Yeah, those are AF6LJ's quotes, which are broken for me too. There seem to be different tags injected.
AF6LJ, do you happen to use any third party software to post on the forums?
FireFox that's all.
I think FF broke the forum software.This software has other issues. If you post too soon it freezes. That's not the browser that is the forum software doing that.
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Quote from: Mr. Scram on Today at 06:10:31 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386677#msg1386677)>Quote from: rdl on Today at 05:43:45 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386660#msg1386660)Sometimes I see the quotes one way, sometimes the other.
Yeah, those are AF6LJ's quotes, which are broken for me too. There seem to be different tags injected.
AF6LJ, do you happen to use any third party software to post on the forums?
FireFox that's all.
I think FF broke the forum software.This software has other issues. If you post too soon it freezes. That's not the browser that is the forum software doing that.
In Profile>Modify Profile>Show WYSIWYG editor on post page by default = unticked.
I think fixes this issue.
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Quote from: Mr. Scram on Today at 06:10:31 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386677#msg1386677)>Quote from: rdl on Today at 05:43:45 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386660#msg1386660)Sometimes I see the quotes one way, sometimes the other.
Yeah, those are AF6LJ's quotes, which are broken for me too. There seem to be different tags injected.
AF6LJ, do you happen to use any third party software to post on the forums?
FireFox that's all.
I think FF broke the forum software.This software has other issues. If you post too soon it freezes. That's not the browser that is the forum software doing that.
In Profile>Modify Profile>Show WYSIWYG editor on post page by default = unticked.
I think fixes this issue.
We will have to see.....
It does actually.......
the BB code looks correct now.
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I had this same problem and it was because I was trying to use the WYSIWYG editor. Note that I had to copy-paste and move two quotes downward otherwise the quote box ended prematurely making it seem that I was saying the bottom few lines.
Quote from: Mr. Scram on Today at 06:10:31 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386677#msg1386677)>Quote from: rdl on Today at 05:43:45 AM (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=187.msg1386660#msg1386660)Sometimes I see the quotes one way, sometimes the other.
Yeah, those are AF6LJ's quotes, which are broken for me too. There seem to be different tags injected.
AF6LJ, do you happen to use any third party software to post on the forums?
FireFox that's all.
I think FF broke the forum software.This software has other issues. If you post too soon it freezes. That's not the browser that is the forum software doing that.
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I'd rather bet that the firefox is what is at fail. As in my rather old version of firefox everything works. And in other browsers it is fine too. The newer the version of this damned thing, the more craptacular they make it. Yuck.
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I have this render issue on my computer. At 2560*1600 or higher resolution, my screen shows a vertical line on the left side, right after the ellipsis in "Pages Prev 1 ...".
This doesn't happen on 1080p/1200p. This shows on both Edge and Chrome on Windows 10, FF on Ubuntu and Chrome on macOS High Sierra.
This may be because the web designer is not expecting screens to be that wide.
They will likely fix it if told about it, you should take a screenshot and send it in an email to both grif and smf
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No, I looked at the source and some of the close quote tags were missing, it is likely in the code for the so called round trip HTML in the SMF WYSIWYG editor.
The web browser rendering engines (Gecko, Webkit, etc.) are fairly robust at this point.
I'd rather bet that the firefox is what is at fail. As in my rather old version of firefox everything works. And in other browsers it is fine too. The newer the version of this damned thing, the more craptacular they make it. Yuck.
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Still it doesn't contradict firefox is at fault. It does work flawlessly in different (older) versions of firefox and all other browser I have used. I'd really not suspect it's the forum's fault.
Happy new yer 2018, btw. We just got minutes after midnight here. :scared:
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Top secret, abbreviated, quick tour.....
https://youtu.be/ly1U-pdtnlw
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Top secret, abbreviated, quick tour.....
This is going to make a lot of people jealous. Was this video for Dave's special? if not make one for his special. Forgot the name, is it Factory 400 ?
Another source of income -> paid tours of it :-+. I can just see it - tour buses :-DD I would pay to see it. Unbelievable
Glad you won the scope. Make sure Keysight sees the video, I think they would be proud for what they did, especially the person that made the decision to give you the scope.
I look forward to seeing more videos - thank you
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Ha! It is hard to properly express the gratitude. When the Keysight Scope Month thing was happening, I did not just want the scope for fun - it was considered a vehicle to make the leap to the next level.
And the next level it has ACHIEVED. I immediately dove head first into high-speed design with experiments and prototype products. It did not take too long to work out some functional building blocks that led to 2 of the biggest jobs I have ever done in electronics. I was able to then build a whole new 400ft2 lab, purchase additional gear - probes, upgrade the pick and place, the CNC milling machine and more. My lab went from a bench with a Fluke 87 and Rigol 100 Mhz 2ch scope to a factory in a very short period of time.
I owe this community a great debt, not just for the support in the scope contest, but also for helping me learn so much over the past 4 years.
The lab should get some solid upgrades in the next few months.....fun....fun.....fun..... :-+
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I have been enjoying some time in the workshop during the holiday week and it made me think of this thread. I have been following this discussion for a long time now and I have viewed every post starting with the first one.
Early on there were a few concerns expressed that this discussion could devolve into "mine's bigger (or better) than yours" but it never has. People are learning from each other and asking questions about how something was built or how someone likes a tool or instrument or where something like shelves or drawers came from. Wonderful.
I have always enjoyed seeing how other people do things and what their work-spaces look like so I would like to thank everyone that has contributed and also wish everyone a great new year!
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Top secret, abbreviated, quick tour.....
https://youtu.be/ly1U-pdtnlw
That is way too cool, thanks for sharing.
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:scared:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=384607;image)
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People are learning from each other.
Very much so. 8)
From an old hand.
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AmmoJammo, cool panorama tour. Looks like lots of fun stuff you've got in there. :-+
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I think i might be working this poor table to death... :-DD
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I think i might be working this poor table to death... :-DD
That table almost certainly hates you. :-DD
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I think i might be working this poor table to death... :-DD
I can actually hear that wood creaking just by looking at the picture! :o
McBryce.
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That table almost certainly hates you. :-DD
Especially since i have a habit of propping my feet on it. :-DD
I can actually hear that wood creaking just by looking at the picture! :o
McBryce.
You noticed the 2 by 4 clamped to it then? Had to pop a couple board back in place as well ::)
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I think i might be working this poor table to death... :-DD
That table almost certainly hates you. :-DD
Looks like it's time for a trip to Home Depot for a 4x8 sheet of 3/4" plywood cut in half and stacked to make a new top :scared:
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I think i might be working this poor table to death... :-DD
That table almost certainly hates you. :-DD
Looks like it's time for a trip to Home Depot for a 4x8 sheet of 3/4" plywood cut in half and stacked to make a new top :scared:
It probably is, but, this table has sentimental value as well as the little white shelf being at it's maximum clamp opening as is.
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Just replaced my dead mini fluro light with twin strip led lights powered by an old router power brick.
(https://i.imgur.com/WIcjDDr.jpg)
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Am currently building a new workshop (garage conversion really), here's a pic of the work-in-progress.
Fully insulated walls, roof and floor. New door and windows going in.
It's a long (25ft) narrow workshop which will suit me just fine. An L-shaped workbench 3m x 2.5m at one end and lots of shelving/storage at the other end. The workbench will actually be a beachwood kitchen worktop, 960mm deep which will accomodate the deep shelving overhead for those extra long bench instruments.
Best thing I am looking forward to is the fact that as it is joined to the side of the house so I can easily run a radiator out there and have 24/7 heating, the plan to make it stable enough for a 24/7 3458a.
My existing workshop will continue to accomodate the lathe, bench grinder, pedestal drill, bandsaw, laser cutter an misc storage.
Should be done in about 3 weeks tops......can't wait!
Ian.
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Just replaced my dead mini fluro light with twin strip led lights powered by an old router power brick.
(https://i.imgur.com/WIcjDDr.jpg)
Wow! :o
Every electronic workshop should have need one of this high-tec ultra precision adjustment tools...
How often do you use it?
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Every electronic workshop should have need one of this high-tec ultra precision adjustment tools...
How often do you use it?
I supposed you talk about the mallet, it is a very useful tool when opening modern electronic stuff.
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Just replaced my dead mini fluro light with twin strip led lights powered by an old router power brick.
(https://i.imgur.com/WIcjDDr.jpg)
Wow! :o
Every electronic workshop should have need one of this high-tec ultra precision adjustment tools...
How often do you use it?
I assume you mean the Wackometre? Thankfully not too often. :-+
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Should be done in about 3 weeks tops......can't wait!
Ian.
Can't wait to see your nice new design/build/repair - project videos out of there. :popcorn:
:-+
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Best thing I am looking forward to is the fact that as it is joined to the side of the house so I can easily run a radiator out there and have 24/7 heating, the plan to make it stable enough for a 24/7 3458a.
Should be done in about 3 weeks tops......can't wait!
Very cool, Ian. I'm sure your 3458A will be quite happy there. Looking forward to seeing the new lab in action.
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Am currently building a new workshop (garage conversion really), here's a pic of the work-in-progress.
Fully insulated walls, roof and floor. New door and windows going in.
It's a long (25ft) narrow workshop which will suit me just fine. An L-shaped workbench 3m x 2.5m at one end and lots of shelving/storage at the other end. The workbench will actually be a beachwood kitchen worktop, 960mm deep which will accomodate the deep shelving overhead for those extra long bench instruments.
Best thing I am looking forward to is the fact that as it is joined to the side of the house so I can easily run a radiator out there and have 24/7 heating, the plan to make it stable enough for a 24/7 3458a.
My existing workshop will continue to accomodate the lathe, bench grinder, pedestal drill, bandsaw, laser cutter an misc storage.
Should be done in about 3 weeks tops......can't wait!
Ian.
Welcome to the big time Ian!
Looks awesome.
Short and misplld from my mobile......
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:palm: FINALLY, I upgraded my bench light situation to acceptable status. I've been working with one of those crappy spring-loaded arm things for 30 years like in the first shot below. You know the ones - you put them in some position and then it sinks (or swoops) down (always down, not up) to a position that just makes you swear. The springs get weak, don't balance at all positions, the pivot snaps, or whatever. So this year when my wife asked me what I wanted for Christmas, I said a new bench light. I picked one out at Home Depot and slowly but surely drew up my evil plans.
I wanted to avoid hanging it from the ceiling since it's 10 ft high and it absolutely MUST be on a dimmer. Having it on a counter-balanced swing arm would be a bonus. Having it attached to the bench is good too if I sometime need to rearrange the room. So there you have it. The second shot shows the counter balance (2 x 10 lb dumbbells in a bag) and the 3rd and 4th shots shows it in all its glory at its maximum and medium altitude. The dimmer is on the right end of the bench upper level. It can be lowered almost to touching the bench top. It is LED and gives more brightness than I could ask for, cranked full out.
After 30 years, its great. ;D
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Nice setup. I particularly like the DIY lighting arm and it's sophisticated counterweight system. ;D
Oh, and I'm jealous of the drafting table & machine.
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Oh, and I'm jealous of the drafting table & machine.
I totally missed that hiding back there. Good eye, nanofrog.
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Oh, and I'm jealous of the drafting table & machine.
You needn't be jealous of the draughting machine. That shot is from 3 years ago. I sold the machine to a collector in Arizona ::) in an attempt to clear up some space. I was going to sell the table too but got no interest. At least now I can put the table flat to spread more crap out.
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Since we talking about the lights, here's my 2018 setup.
I've added two 60x60 cm 36W while LED panels to provide pilot light for Youtube livestreams. They were 40$ each, and work great.
Sorry about the mess, few projects currently in progress :popcorn:.
(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/tin_2018_home_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/tin_2018_home.jpg)
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Since we talking about the lights, here's my 2018 setup.
I've added two 60x60 cm 36W while LED panels to provide pilot light for Youtube livestreams. They were 40$ each, and work great.
Sorry about the mess, few projects currently in progress :popcorn:.
(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/tin_2018_home_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/tin_2018_home.jpg)
$5000 DVMs on top of $5 tables.
I think you should invest in some racks.
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Since we talking about the lights, here's my 2018 setup.
Are those 2x4s ? That is one thing I never saw in Taiwan. Thanks for the pic. For years I have wondered what it looked like. I am not disappointed in where the magic occurs.
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Sorry about the mess, few projects currently in progress :popcorn:.
Mess? What mess?
Can't see dirty socks, or worse... :-//
;D
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I'll take that nice little stack in the middle. You can ship 1 and 4 later, no worries.
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Never EVER be "sorry about the mess" - this is a redundant apology - a messy work area is indicative of an intelligent mind, and even of it wasn't, it's YOUR private work area, who cares what the outside world thinks; this is a test and development situation, not a show home kitchen.
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Never EVER be "sorry about the mess" - this is a redundant apology - a messy work area is indicative of an intelligent mind, and even of it wasn't, it's YOUR private work area, who cares what the outside world thinks; this is a test and development situation, not a show home kitchen.
Intelligent people tend to have messy desks and probably work areas, but I'm not sure the reverse is true. Though I'm sure many people sell it to themselves that way ;D
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Nah, not messy, just active!
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HELP!!! My workbench has reached critical mass, i cleaned the floor and got a pile of stuff as tall as i am! The walls are closing in on me! :-DD
Seriously though my mess has gotten out of control...
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Since we talking about the lights, here's my 2018 setup.
I've added two 60x60 cm 36W while LED panels to provide pilot light for Youtube livestreams. They were 40$ each, and work great.
Cool to see your updated lab, TiN! So many nice goodies in there. :-+
Sorry about the mess, few projects currently in progress :popcorn:.
On the contrary, I think you'd have to apologize if it were pristine because that would mean you're slacking off. :-DD
Actually, the last time I saw your lab, some of that gear was upside-down. ;D
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:palm: FINALLY, I upgraded my bench light situation to acceptable status.
Looks good! But perhaps it would be improved by a shade along the front edge, so the light doesn't shine directly in your eyes?
Also, HP 141T spectrum analyzer! Does it work?
Edit to add:
TiN, fascinating work area.
But most mysterious of all, is that solid copper bar with oval cross section. Can you give us a hint what that's for?
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OK here goes....
I'm still in the process of setting up my workshop at my new house. I've just finished most of the mains stuff with just the extractor to install on the end of the piece of wire seen hanging near the stand on the top shelf plus the isolator under the bench between the two pieces of wire coiled up on the top shelf. Some of my kit is in boxes or stashed in drawers: MegaPCB 3 tank PCB making machine and everything else for making PCBs, PCB preheater and a load of other stuff but it's heading in the right direction.
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Another update on my lab.
Am i doing this right? :-DD
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No youtube in your profile, whats your channel?
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No youtube in your profile, whats your channel?
Interestingly i don't have a channel or at least not much of one.
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Another update on my lab.
Am i doing this right? :-DD
The sagging shelf in the third pic is a nice touch! :-+ :-+
-Pat
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Looks good! But perhaps it would be improved by a shade along the front edge, so the light doesn't shine directly in your eyes?
Also, HP 141T spectrum analyzer! Does it work?
Sure does. But it takes about 1/2 hour warmup before delivering a spectrum to the screen. Is this normal?
I got it for free with some equipment my employer was tossing out and put my name in for it if they couldn't flog it elsewhere. So for about 10 years, because it had no overt function for it, I believed it could not decode any modulation so that you could listen to the transmitted signal. I just 2 weeks ago learned that I was wrong and discovered how to use "zero bandwidth" scanning. It has a vertical output spigot and when connected to an audio amp I was listening to AM stations, taxi dispatchers, WWV, hams and with some difficulty FM, etc. I was flabbergasted that I never knew I could do that after 10 years.
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Also, HP 141T spectrum analyzer! Does it work?
Sure does. But it takes about 1/2 hour warmup before delivering a spectrum to the screen. Is this normal?
I don't know, but I doubt it. I'd suspect some heat sensitive fault. And a great deal of effort trying to find it.
I got it for free with some equipment my employer was tossing out and put my name in for it if they couldn't flog it elsewhere. So for about 10 years, because it had no overt function for it, I believed it could not decode any modulation so that you could listen to the transmitted signal. I just 2 weeks ago learned that I was wrong and discovered how to use "zero bandwidth" scanning. It has a vertical output spigot and when connected to an audio amp I was listening to AM stations, taxi dispatchers, WWV, hams and with some difficulty FM, etc. I was flabbergasted that I never knew I could do that after 10 years.
Thanks for that tip. I had wondered about that.
I have a couple of 141Ts and a few different plugins, but have never tried them. The mainframes and their modules were free, and then I ebay-bought some more modules to option them up. Plus the service manuals.
That was over a decade ago. Evaluating them and fixing them up was on my list of projects, along with the same for a lot of other gear. But I have too many projects, and some at the top of the priority list are hard enough that I'm making very slow progress on them. So low priority jobs never get done.
Then with other old gear I learned that stuff of that vintage typically has *many* and difficult faults. Things like all the carbon composition resistors drifting well out of tolerance, most electros dying, tantalum foil and bead caps failing (sometimes destructively), etc. So much so that repair is not worth the time, effort and expense. Not to mention my not having the skills and other gear needed to get them back into spec. And the risk of finding a fault that can't be fixed due to some unavailable old component, after already putting in a lot of time and cash.
I'd be better to save up and buy a relatively modern spec-an. Also with the benefit of having a computer interface, for data capture. I keep my 141Ts just from inertia, and for the slim chance that one day I might have the time and interest to work on them, plus even worse finances so a newer spec-an would be impossible.
It's a real shame, they are lovely bits of gear. Glad to hear yours is working.
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I have a working 141S, the older brother, part of my ancient TE collection, 'switch on' time is about 1/2 min, getting all the knobs in the correct position is the hard part. I have the 300 and 1200MHz RF plugins.
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I have a working 141S, the older brother, part of my ancient TE collection, 'switch on' time is about 1/2 min, getting all the knobs in the correct position is the hard part. I have the 300 and 1200MHz RF plugins.
They still pull their own weight, my analyzer has a lot of hours on the CRT and someone wasn't very careful of how they treated the storage functionality....
Not to mention the 30DB section of the input attenuator is shot.
But the price was right and it has a home. :)
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Another update on my lab.
Am i doing this right? :-DD
The sagging shelf in the third pic is a nice touch! :-+ :-+
-Pat
+1 on the sagging shelf. Classic. :clap:
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No youtube in your profile, whats your channel?
Sorry that was for TIN , posting on phone ugh
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No youtube in your profile, whats your channel?
Sorry that was for TIN , posting on phone ugh
My problem for assuming, sorry.
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Another update on my lab.
Am i doing this right? :-DD
No !
#3 pic is upside down.....that shelf is frowning at you. :(
;)
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Just replaced my dead mini fluro light with twin strip led lights powered by an old router power brick.
(https://i.imgur.com/WIcjDDr.jpg)
thank you for having that Singapore skyline on your desktop ;D
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No youtube in your profile, whats your channel?
Sorry that was for TIN , posting on phone ugh
Added link to in the sub. :)
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I'll have to check out your YouTube channel TiN
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This is what my dream setup became in a month :horse:.
A rice cooker, an indispensable productivity tool :-+
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This is what my dream setup became in a month :horse:.
So your professional advice would be to stay away from my new lab / bench now to keep it in its tidy state?
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=390735)
I guess, it's too late, I've just started to put things onto the desk
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This is what my dream setup became in a month :horse:.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=390723;image)
What's wrong with that? There is a place to stand. >:D
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This is what my dream setup became in a month :horse:.
What's wrong with that? There is a place to stand. >:D
That's what I'm always saying to my girlfriend when she's complaining about the mess.
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Just replaced my dead mini fluro light with twin strip led lights powered by an old router power brick.
(https://i.imgur.com/WIcjDDr.jpg)
thank you for having that Singapore skyline on your desktop ;D
No worries, it's a very cool skyline. 8)
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This is what my dream setup became in a month :horse:.
The Digital Paper tablet - I knew from day 1 it belongs to trash, seem you have found a right place for it.
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The Digital Paper tablet
Is this the reMarkable tablet? If not can you (blueskill) give a link to it? thanks
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Just replaced my dead mini fluro light with twin strip led lights powered by an old router power brick.
(https://i.imgur.com/WIcjDDr.jpg)
Nice compact setup. What adhesive did you use on the light strips? The heat generated by the lights eventually destroyed the adhesive on the ones I put up.
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What adhesive did you use on the light strips? The heat generated by the lights eventually destroyed the adhesive on the ones I put up.
Assuming your setup is similar to what's pictured, are you sure it was heat and not that it's stuck to bare wood?
I've got LED strips stuck in an aluminium extrusion which has a clip that is screwed into the timber. I haven't had any issues in the year that I've had mine up.
Sure the Al is a heat sink too, but it is a better substrate for the glue to stick to. Also the end caps also support the wire so there isn't something pulling them down. And it looks a lot neater as well.
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Just replaced my dead mini fluro light with twin strip led lights powered by an old router power brick.
(https://i.imgur.com/WIcjDDr.jpg)
Nice compact setup. What adhesive did you use on the light strips? The heat generated by the lights eventually destroyed the adhesive on the ones I put up.
Cheers. See that staple gun on the wall to the left of the screen, I used that to staple them up there as I figured the adhesive wouldn't like the particle board. :-+
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Had to do some re-arranging to fit some new toys, the HP3456A is deeeeeep.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/32A45FCC-FA38-436F-9D96-FEF736C66A1B.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/32A45FCC-FA38-436F-9D96-FEF736C66A1B.jpg.html)
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Had to do some re-arranging to fit some new toys, the HP3456A is deeeeeep.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/32A45FCC-FA38-436F-9D96-FEF736C66A1B.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/32A45FCC-FA38-436F-9D96-FEF736C66A1B.jpg.html)
You need another bench about the same size, JUST for reloading. ;)
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I do, its on the other side of the hobby room out of frame ;D
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Had to do some re-arranging to fit some new toys, the HP3456A is deeeeeep.
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Elecronics/32A45FCC-FA38-436F-9D96-FEF736C66A1B.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Elecronics/32A45FCC-FA38-436F-9D96-FEF736C66A1B.jpg.html)
Don't know what is on the other side. At this side i see about 8 (eight) DMM's.
Are you ready for https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/) ?
;)
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Don't know what is on the other side. At this side i see about 8 (eight) DMM's.
Are you ready for https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/) ?
;)
I still need the 3455 and 3458, then I will have the full 34xx range. Yeah, maybe I am ready for therapy. They don't call them MULTI meters for nothing.
Nothing to see on the other side, move along...
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Firearms/CCC90A68-D79F-4602-AD7C-772764317761.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Firearms/CCC90A68-D79F-4602-AD7C-772764317761.jpg.html)
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Don't know what is on the other side. At this side i see about 8 (eight) DMM's.
Are you ready for https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/) ?
;)
I still need the 3455 and 3458, then I will have the full 34xx range. Yeah, maybe I am ready for therapy. They don't call them MULTI meters for nothing.
Nothing to see on the other side, move along...
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff146/wsmc551/Firearms/CCC90A68-D79F-4602-AD7C-772764317761.jpg) (http://s241.photobucket.com/user/wsmc551/media/Firearms/CCC90A68-D79F-4602-AD7C-772764317761.jpg.html)
Nice rifles, for troubleshooting.
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Ballistic teardown tools?
McBryce.
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The rifles are not for troubleshooting, they're obviously for percussive maintenance.
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The rifles are not for troubleshooting, they're obviously for percussive maintenance.
Long range percussion IMHO, the short arms would be fine for bench work. :)
kj7e, what's the caliber with the brake ?
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The rifles are not for troubleshooting, they're obviously for percussive maintenance.
More like a modern widlarization tool.
The scopes do allow for precision part removal.
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The rifles are not for troubleshooting, they're obviously for percussive maintenance.
Long range percussion IMHO, the short arms would be fine for bench work. :)
kj7e, what's the caliber with the brake ?
338 Lapua for 1 mile fun. I had a 3'x3' steel plate on a 5' saw horse on the side of the hill in the background, about 1800 yards out, 3 second time of flight and and another 6 seconds for return of sound;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kn5cd-YfiM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kn5cd-YfiM)
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The rifles are not for troubleshooting, they're obviously for percussive maintenance.
Long range percussion IMHO, the short arms would be fine for bench work. :)
kj7e, what's the caliber with the brake ?
338 Lapua for 1 mile fun, think I was at 1800 yards here, 3 second time of flight and and another 6 seconds for return of sound;
Nice. ;D
We can do 1000yd here and my buddy did ~3" 3 shot group with a custom 7mm Practical.
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Nice rifles, for troubleshooting.
There's an air rifle on my bench today. A very old (>45 years) Gamo EXPO airgun my dad gave me as a christmas present when I was a kid. I'm restoring it.
It was my intention to drop a pic of my bench here but, I said to myself, not with a rifle! :-DD
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I think I need a bit of a tidy up ...
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=391413)
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Looks fine to me. ;D
Maybe just move the keyboard onto its drawer and you'll be fine.
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Finally working on an upgrade...
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I think I need a bit of a tidy up ...
Tidy up what? :-//
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My desk at work
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Lots of lab pics recently, lets go with an update of mine, I'm a stacker ^-^
I like your celluloid stacking equalizers. ;D
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Lots of lab pics recently, lets go with an update of mine, I'm a stacker ^-^
I like your celluloid stacking equalizers. ;D
I like the way that HP machine got its place on the RHS extension... Neck ache? Work lying down?
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Lots of lab pics recently, lets go with an update of mine, I'm a stacker ^-^
I like your celluloid stacking equalizers. ;D
I like the way that HP machine got its place on the RHS extension... Neck ache? Work lying down?
Well, that is a HP3588 and it should be in the storage area with other equipment and not there, cause I got it just for spares of the HP3589 network analyzer at the left side. However I didn’t know what to put in that spot, all the equipments in that pic are connected to the mains except for that one.
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Lots of lab pics recently, lets go with an update of mine, I'm a stacker ^-^
I like your celluloid stacking equalizers. ;D
I like the way that HP machine got its place on the RHS extension... Neck ache? Work lying down?
Well, that is a HP3588 and it should be in the storage area with other equipment and not there, cause I got it just for spares of the HP3589 network analyzer at the left side. However I didn’t know what to put in that spot, all the equipments in that pic are connected to the mains except for that one.
I like the way you think, keep up the good work.
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Lots of lab pics recently, lets go with an update of mine, I'm a stacker ^-^
And a tilter ;-)
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A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step...
I started with a free hazard fraught multimeter, a 2 dollar 8010A and a 5 dollar 8000A, which still works i think the batteries have taken a shit though.
The reason the 8010A was 2 bucks is quite the amusing story. It was an auction and on the bench was something taken apart, someone bought that before i got a good look at it. Sitting there next to it, the 8010A with a gigantic tag on top "BROKEN" and leads running into the DUT. It really does pay to be one of the smartest guys in the room. :-DD
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A journey of a thousand miles begins with one step...
I started with a free hazard fraught multimeter, a 2 dollar 8010A and a 5 dollar 8000A, which still works i think the batteries have taken a shit though.
The reason the 8010A was 2 bucks is quite the amusing story. It was an auction and on the bench was something taken apart, someone bought that before i got a good look at it. Sitting there next to it, the 8010A with a gigantic tag on top "BROKEN" and leads running into the DUT. It really does pay to be one of the smartest guys in the room. :-DD
Those hazard fraught multimeters are a gateway drug for the youngsters I swear!!!
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Yes indeed. Then you pop your first Fluke and it's all over :-DD
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Yes indeed. Then you pop your first Fluke and it's all over :-DD
Until you realize that Fluke is the simplified version of a multimeter, other brands can do a lot more (and cost less).
I have a couple of Fluke meters, they are very easy to use, but lacks the more advanced functions (289 is a bit outside this), my Keysight meters can do a lot more, but often requires the manual to use.
I will not say one is better than the other without knowing the guy that is going to use the meter.
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Yes I agree which is why I own a Keysight meter too (U1241C) ;)
Orange > Yellow as well.
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Uni-T is red and red > orange > yellow, but I think there might be a catch? :-DD
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Until you realize that Fluke is the simplified version of a multimeter, other brands can do a lot more (and cost less).
I have a couple of Fluke meters, they are very easy to use, but lacks the more advanced functions (289 is a bit outside this), my Keysight meters can do a lot more, but often requires the manual to use.
I will not say one is better than the other without knowing the guy that is going to use the meter.
The number of functions isn't everything. I have both an 87V and a U1272A and while the latter has a few neat tricks, the 87V is much quicker. While the feature set of the Fluke is much more sparse, the features present seem to be both refined and well chosen.
The U1272A is a nice meter too, but I tend to go for the 87V for the regular poking and prodding.
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The rifles are not for troubleshooting, they're obviously for percussive maintenance.
Well, most of us use remote access methods these days. Saves having to walk over with a hammer.
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I guess it's a TEA approved behaviour, buy equipment and then more equipment as spares. When I think that I started with just a rigol ds1052 :-BROKE
Where's my approval stamp?
100% TEA APPROVED
There ya go! :-+
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I think I'm definitely out of usable space now - at least on this side of the 'shop. I don't much like the idea of splitting the work bench into two areas (like the opposite side) but I guess I don't have much option.
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I think I'm definitely out of usable space now - at least on this side of the 'shop. I don't much like the idea of splitting the work bench into two areas (like the opposite side) but I guess I don't have much option.
I used to have a milling machine in my bedroom, in an apartment no less, but even then I would have my electronics stuff on the other side of the room.
Swarf, or chips depending on your side of the pond, in the bed is one thing, but having them fly inside my test equipment crosses a line for me.
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Wow, ChrisLX200, that is compact. :-+
The delineation of mechanical and electronics work-spaces is always a quandary, ideally in a new workshop (if I ever get one) it will be a two room affair, clean and dirty, to separate the swarf from the things that let smoke out.
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
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I think I'm definitely out of usable space now - at least on this side of the 'shop. I don't much like the idea of splitting the work bench into two areas (like the opposite side) but I guess I don't have much option.
I used to have a milling machine in my bedroom, in an apartment no less, but even then I would have my electronics stuff on the other side of the room.
Swarf, or chips depending on your side of the pond, in the bed is one thing, but having them fly inside my test equipment crosses a line for me.
Chips don't fly that far (fortunately), and I don't use a fly-cutter anymore which used to be the most messy procedure, instead I use face cutters which don't throw chips any distance. The area behind me (in the photo) has an old mill/drill which I don't use now but I was reserving that space for a small CNC mill to replace it. Those are way more problematic producing losts of fine dust so some thought needed how to deal with that.
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
What's that type of big scope above the curtain rod? :-DD
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
What's that type of big scope above the curtain rod? :-DD
All those horizontal lines, it's got to be a logic analyser.
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Nice benches folks.
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
What's that type of big scope above the curtain rod? :-DD
Thats an external monitor for my TEK784D oscilloscope which if you look close is on the bottom of that stack. I have a replacement LCD screen kit on order.
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
What's that type of big scope above the curtain rod? :-DD
All those horizontal lines, it's got to be a logic analyser.
Nope, TEK784D with waveform and FFT display active (Pink hashy line).
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
What's that type of big scope above the curtain rod? :-DD
All those horizontal lines, it's got to be a logic analyser.
Nope, TEK784D with waveform and FFT display active (Pink hashy line).
Joke seems to have missed - probably a language barrier.... Anyhow, they're talking about your airconditioner :)
cheers,
george.
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
What's that type of big scope above the curtain rod? :-DD
All those horizontal lines, it's got to be a logic analyser.
Nope, TEK784D with waveform and FFT display active (Pink hashy line).
Joke seems to have missed - probably a language barrier.... Anyhow, they're talking about your airconditioner :)
cheers,
george.
Now that I re-read the post and see it's above the curtain rod rather than below I get it.....doah.... :P :clap:
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
Thanks for sharing. It looks like you have some homebrew stuff (with the keypad, for example). What are they ?
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My bench...in need of some cleanup.
Thanks for sharing. It looks like you have some homebrew stuff (with the keypad, for example). What are they ?
There are two homebrew items with keypads in the picture.
One is a precision frequency reference based on a GPS (NEO 7 i think) receiver. It is capable of output from 1Hz to 12MHz. A PLL stabilizer is active between 4.6 and 11.7MHz to reduce the phase noise you get from these kind of sources. It's all run by an Arduino Nano and has a built in frequency counter. It was a fun project...my first using a PLL, and my first where I used an Arduino in a permanent project.
This project was inspired by one of Skulcom's projects but I added the PLL and an output low-pass filter. Also the software was largely re-written but credit to Skulcom where credit is due.
The 2nd chassis is an electronic load. This was also inspired by one of Skulcom's projects. Major changes were made to the analog circuitry and software however. The unit is working well in it's core functions but I am still tinkering with the software to make it work better for automated battery discharge testing and transient load testing. Tested max specifications are 70VDC, 100W, 4A.
In the photo are also two homebrew pulse generators. One is described here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/avalance-jw-charge-line-pulser-for-step-waveforms-~45v-out/msg1405898/#msg1405898. (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/avalance-jw-charge-line-pulser-for-step-waveforms-~45v-out/msg1405898/#msg1405898.) It is a avalance charge line pulser with <600ps Trise. The second pulser is a reed switch based device with an even faster Trise of approx 400ps. It has adjustable output voltage but is not particularly stable as the performance of the reed switch isn't as good as I had hoped. Still it's a nice testbed for future reed switch testing.
Also high in the photo are two homebrew precision current sources. A 1A unit which can be dialed down to 10mA or so and a 50mA unit which can be dialed down to 50uA or so. Both units have a full-scale calibrated position. The 1A unit is accurate to +/-50uA after 5 min warmup. The 50mA unit is accurate to +/-2uA.
There are more projects as well. I've been busy this past year.
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One is a precision frequency reference based on a GPS (NEO 7 i think) receiver. It is capable of output from 1Hz to 12MHz. A PLL stabilizer is active between 4.6 and 11.7MHz to reduce the phase noise you get from these kind of sources.
Do you have a link or more info on the PLL part? I have one of those GPS modules waiting to be built into a frequency reference and it'd be great to add a stabilizer.
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One is a precision frequency reference based on a GPS (NEO 7 i think) receiver. It is capable of output from 1Hz to 12MHz. A PLL stabilizer is active between 4.6 and 11.7MHz to reduce the phase noise you get from these kind of sources.
Do you have a link or more info on the PLL part? I have one of those GPS modules waiting to be built into a frequency reference and it'd be great to add a stabilizer.
Here is the schematic of the as-built unit. Hit me up with questions if you want.
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Thanks. That's pretty cool. I think I got how it all works. One question: Is P2 one of those 7-segment LED display frequency counter modules?
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Lot of nice benches around here, I'm currently planning to build one with the help of a friend.
Here is a quick sketchup plan I made. I would be happy to have your opinion about my design, would you change something in terms of dimension, space between shelves etc.. ?
Thank you.
Rémi
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1.5 m width? Put horizontal bracing under the shelf's and desk, otherwise those shelf's will start sagging over time.
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1.5 m width? Put horizontal bracing under the shelf's and desk, otherwise those shelf's will start sagging over time.
Yes the width will be 1.5m. Indeed I was thinking of building a frame for the desk and the two shelves. Something like in the picture below but with the bracings along the 1.5m dimension....
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Indeed I was thinking of building a frame for the desk and the two shelves. Something like in the picture below but with the bracings along the 1.5m dimension....
You could consider a bench built like the one in the image below (specifically the bottom half that makes up the frame for the table top). As per table bracing, just complete the rectangle just below the table top; front to back bracing won't be necessary IME. Leave the bottom framing as-is, as you'll be able to get a chair beneath it.
(https://raw.github.com/douggilliland/DougsWoodWorld/master/Workbench-8Ft/Workbench-8ft.png)
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Thanks. That's pretty cool. I think I got how it all works. One question: Is P2 one of those 7-segment LED display frequency counter modules?
Yes...one of those cheap PIC based units I had lying around. This one was nice because it went all the way down to 1Hz whereas the other cheap counters usually have a minimum frequency. I think I paid something like $5 for the kit.
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Another Design built using 2x4s and plywood. The top is made from two pieces of 3/4" marine plywood laminated together for a solid bench. The edges are painted for looks. The entire assembly breaks into four pieces with just 4x 5/16" bolts for easier transport. The width is 1" narrower than the door frame in my house and the length was chosen to fit the space. The shelfs are made from 3/4" plywood and just sit on the top with a bit of rubber glued to the base for non-slippage. Note the pockets on the underside of the bench for meters and other small items. Finish is marine varnish.
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1.5 m width? Put horizontal bracing under the shelf's and desk, otherwise those shelf's will start sagging over time.
Yes the width will be 1.5m. Indeed I was thinking of building a frame for the desk and the two shelves. Something like in the picture below but with the bracings along the 1.5m dimension....
I recently made this from three inexpensive hollow core doors (2 x 540mm + 1 x 900mm for the top), two strips of dressed wood and some castors. Works really well and is very inexpensive if you want a bench that is as long as a door is high. ;)
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Finish is marine varnish.
Nice job
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A mere ~3months ::) after moving to a new place I setup the lab-table again.
Ikea table 120cm wide and 80cm deep.
Top shelf on 40cm legs, 40cm deep.
HPAK E3640A powersupplies, 2-ch 62MXs-B 600MHz scope, SDG2042X siggen, HPAK 34401A and Fluke 177 DMMs, Olympus SZ51 microscope with LED ringlight, Hakko FA-400 and FX-888D, SR620 counter.
AC-outlets are now below the top shelf, but I think it's cleaner to mount them below the main table at the back.
Might build a wider (2-2.4 m?) similar lab table in the future.
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A mere ~3months ::) after moving to a new place I setup the lab-table again.
Ikea table 120cm wide and 80cm deep.
Top shelf on 40cm legs, 40cm deep.
Is the top shelf from Ikea? If so, do you have a name or part number? Thanks.
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A mere ~3months ::) after moving to a new place I setup the lab-table again.
Ikea table 120cm wide and 80cm deep.
Top shelf on 40cm legs, 40cm deep.
Is the top shelf from Ikea? If so, do you have a name or part number? Thanks.
Nope, top shelf is a pine gluelam board from the DIY store, and the 40cm legs also. The legs had M8 adjustable feet which I removed and instead bolted the shelf from above to the legs with M8 countersink bolts.
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A new picture of the workbench and lab here.....
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4Mzc5DmWPQ6We5q2Kjn5q4w6dI_z_KgM3LwQyPLvTUS14Vwu7kLXq1JTozB0khREBkYEdw5sh_NRcN7siDEFd4x8q4L_-9RoB1Q9z1k23AW4x9BEso_wLNOzdijyJ4z_2QCqrk86xlYedjIg11H-h-oyxP9arukcUwhQsay5fcquh32yA0PNY8V8Ur76BCFyTMKNeBLTT77sXv1HYC-OWHYzoRX0IyyzD7IqIWIciKEcHhXbQ6AIOa47Mou6VPfjyoLeLcBfQ4BkCIAf1xbgxIYjypOZzAps1PoxDXEU3lZ0SCLQC59PswmIi4ytaIVboiKIvSIXEMaq0QAlF-HRX8IY0OnZ0hJHelpQ43I0QcUmJDOW_IOHwRDBL20j5TJQ058-UPl9RoXEcADGK_GiweACJ4n_t9L_KJErzfFsp8e55hi14y5epB5VGnMCfK9gGsDHz0ueFoaqBqBUi8rExDZCEDLZUlNGhAIyUYIY4zEMNp_moVWniygi3xo2Ub-DZ5j9sw0fCLZAuAE598bhbOAWA4YUBPdIghB6_NIdzLhLSRKKWp6uwzeODJ67FZlMrAqq2w6N1MsJTd0wFgnfC5wFE7G-12xAS69d-mA=w1060-h780-no)
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Very nice, Sue. :-+ :-+
-Pat
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The Mallet of Healing:
Persuasion +10
Magic smoke -5
Frustration -5
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One of these days.. The SB-220 will have to make it back into its cabinet.
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Yeah...I know. Not good.
This is my den at home. I have another den at work which is even worse.
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My bench looks like that when something is being worked on.
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My workbench always looks like that, worse even because mine is stuffed full. :-DD
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One of these days.. The SB-220 will have to make it back into its cabinet.
You guys are so lucky. 400W miserable watts here on a full license. An SB220 would be wasted here :(
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One of these days.. The SB-220 will have to make it back into its cabinet.
You guys are so lucky. 400W miserable watts here on a full license. An SB220 would be wasted here :(
That really does suck, especially considering how bad propagation has been lately.
You could run an SB-220 over there; problem is the anodes need to show a little color from time to time to keep the vacuum good and high. The gettering material is on the anode in the 3-500Zs, and the graphite anode tubes need to show color more often than with the molybdenum anode type tubes. They will keep you warm in the winter though, not that we need that here in the southern end of the People's Republic of Kalifornia. ;)
The amp is still apart for another reason. When I bought it, it had been modified for use on 160 meters, in a very sloppy way. I returned it to stock configuration and rebuilt the power supply changed the plate RF choke to a better one, and installed a step start circuit to soften the inrush current. There is more work to be done, have have been too busy with other projects to finish it. Vacuum relays need to be installed, a timing board for same, and the padding cap for the loading control is getting drifty and should be replaced. Right now it is working well and I have four projects I want to work on this year.
An Atlas 350
Motorola Micom 500E commercial HF radio
My Henry 3KA amplifier,
The LG Precision spectrum analyzer sitting above the Icom IC-756.
But wait there is more........
I have four or five (I lost count) projects I am working for other people.
Oh and........
If anybody can find me a manual for that LG 2720 spectrum analyzer that is not in Korean...
That would be great!
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My workbench always looks like that, worse even because mine is stuffed full. :-DD
I am running out of space over here also.....
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A new picture of the workbench and lab here.....
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4Mzc5DmWPQ6We5q2Kjn5q4w6dI_z_KgM3LwQyPLvTUS14Vwu7kLXq1JTozB0khREBkYEdw5sh_NRcN7siDEFd4x8q4L_-9RoB1Q9z1k23AW4x9BEso_wLNOzdijyJ4z_2QCqrk86xlYedjIg11H-h-oyxP9arukcUwhQsay5fcquh32yA0PNY8V8Ur76BCFyTMKNeBLTT77sXv1HYC-OWHYzoRX0IyyzD7IqIWIciKEcHhXbQ6AIOa47Mou6VPfjyoLeLcBfQ4BkCIAf1xbgxIYjypOZzAps1PoxDXEU3lZ0SCLQC59PswmIi4ytaIVboiKIvSIXEMaq0QAlF-HRX8IY0OnZ0hJHelpQ43I0QcUmJDOW_IOHwRDBL20j5TJQ058-UPl9RoXEcADGK_GiweACJ4n_t9L_KJErzfFsp8e55hi14y5epB5VGnMCfK9gGsDHz0ueFoaqBqBUi8rExDZCEDLZUlNGhAIyUYIY4zEMNp_moVWniygi3xo2Ub-DZ5j9sw0fCLZAuAE598bhbOAWA4YUBPdIghB6_NIdzLhLSRKKWp6uwzeODJ67FZlMrAqq2w6N1MsJTd0wFgnfC5wFE7G-12xAS69d-mA=w1060-h780-no)
All kinds of nice goodies! I like. ^-^
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It seems there are many here who are building or have built their own benches. I have always built my own benches too. Partly because I didn’t want to spend the cost of a commercial bench and partly because building your own lets you have the exact size and features that you want.
In post #3187 JustSquareEnough showed a picture that had a drawer unit later identified as a Harbor Freight end cabinet for roller chest.
A couple of years ago I was shopping at a local tool store where they were having a closeout on Clarke tool chests. They had two of the end cabinets similar to the Harbor Freight ones. I really liked the blue color. I immediately thought that these could serve as the pedestals on the ends of a new workbench. For some time I had been thinking of building a new bench as a totally modern work area – a flexible bench not committed to any one type of work.
Although at first I intend to do mostly audio related work here, the idea is that test instruments and other equipment don’t ‘live’ on the bench but are stored elsewhere and placed on the bench in whatever configuration meets the needs of the current project.
The bench I built is about 9 feet long and 40 inches deep. I would have preferred a little deeper but was limited by the door on the right of the bench. The bench top is supported by a frame of 2x4’s that are attached to the drawer units and to the wall. The top is comprised of three sheets of oriented strand board covered with oak and finished with several coats of Old Masters satin poly.
The work surface is an anti-static bench mat obtained from ebay seller canvu0-0. They will make custom sizes to exactly fit your bench. Electrical is provided by Wiremold outlet strips across the front of the bench and along the back edge of the top. These have outlets at 6 inch centers. All are supplied through GFCI.
The area under the bench is partially enclosed to serve as instrument storage. The doors and the CPU cart are finished in enamel color matched to the drawer units by a local home center.
On the wall are two Infinity speakers that can be used to listen to equipment being tested. Each of the four LCD monitors has two interfaces. Between them, all the common standards are natively supported – VGA, DVI, HDMI, and displayport. The monitor on the far right displays an internet connected computer that lives on a CPU cart under the bench. The monitors on the left can be connected to equipment being tested, can serve as displays for instruments that have no display (e.g. R&S UPL66), or they can mirror instrument displays for easier viewing.
The current configuration shown here is testing communication headsets used by public safety dispatchers.
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That is really nice.
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@xmo
That is one of the nicest looking workbenches Ive seen here. Beautiful.
Also, i wanted to post a picture of these super handy anchors for people who live in earthquake country. These anchors are really great for protecting equipment from g-forces and gravity. I forget what I paid for them but they are super useful. Its a pro solution.
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@xmo , nice clean setup! I like that blue too.
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Looks like a rubber hammer is now compulsory for bench photos. Better get out and buy one before I post a picture of my latest setup!
McBryce.
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Looks like a rubber hammer is now compulsory for bench photos. Better get out and buy one before I post a picture of my latest setup!
I have one of these in my toolbox - if it is not lying around on my bench, threadening misbehaving gear. ;D
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ofcAAOxyBXNSU9bA/s-l500.jpg)
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Looks like a rubber hammer is now compulsory for bench photos. Better get out and buy one before I post a picture of my latest setup!
I have one of these in my toolbox - if it is not lying around on my bench, threadening misbehaving gear. ;D
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ofcAAOxyBXNSU9bA/s-l500.jpg)
Portable Wilmerizer
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Looks like a rubber hammer is now compulsory for bench photos. Better get out and buy one before I post a picture of my latest setup!
I have one of these in my toolbox - if it is not lying around on my bench, threadening misbehaving gear. ;D
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ofcAAOxyBXNSU9bA/s-l500.jpg)
When something properly needs the 'bash' you need a hardwood maul with a three foot handle. >:D
From lumberjack times.....for driving steel felling wedges.
(http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/278489.jpg)
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Ah, yes. The right tools for the right job. :-+ ;D
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Ah, yes. The right tools for the right job. :-+ ;D
;D
A buddy says that when he needs one it's FBH time !
You can work on the abbreviation. ;)
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;D
A buddy says that when he needs one it's FBH time !
You can work on the abbreviation. ;)
Fudge Bratislava Helicopter!
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Scotty in Star Trek V:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZPRoE7RTPs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZPRoE7RTPs)
Scene from 23:10 to 23:30 (mm:ss)
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I was going to ask Sue if she had ever worked in the judiciary branch of government?
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I was going to ask Sue if she had ever worked in the judiciary branch of government?
Nope...
Not corrupt enough. :)
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So I can ask Sue when restorating the Heathkit, that`s fine :-+
this is 313, 401, 610, + speaker
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So I can ask Sue when restorating the Heathkit, that`s fine :-+
this is 313, 401, 610, + speaker
I have done a fair amount of work on Heath sb-Series gear.
I can answer most questions.
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Oh goody. Got one for you: is the SB-101 worth a go as a restoration project? I have a thing about old Heathkit stuff. I've owned a few of their VTVMs, counters (nixie), power supplies, RF gen etc over the years and currently have none of those things and I'm missing them, so it gives me an excuse to accumulate them again you see :)
I also like tubes :)
Edit: the transceiver I have been designing for the last 2 years or so and is currently on bits of copper clad all over the place in boxes, is actually based on the SB-101 but using FETs/BJTs instead of tubes.
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As you might be aware restoring Heathkits can be a bit of a crapshoot.....
If you can find an SB-101 (like the one I have above the SB-220) that is in decent shape, yes they are worth restoring. You will get 1970s performance out of one of those radios, however that is not so bad. They work great, one thing I cannot over stress; be careful with the plastic parts. The dial wheel is fragile and if you break it, your skills at plastic repair will be tested. My SB-101 works well except for one thing....
The VFO (in heathkit speak known as the LMO Linear Master Oscillator) has a weak tube and will shift frequency slightly from transmit to receive. I just need to replace the tube and all will be well again.
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;D
A buddy says that when he needs one it's FBH time !
You can work on the abbreviation. ;)
Fudge Bratislava Helicopter!
Fine Bologna Heros (type of sandwich on a long roll for those not in the know)
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As you might be aware restoring Heathkits can be a bit of a crapshoot.....
If you can find an SB-101 (like the one I have above the SB-220) that is in decent shape, yes they are worth restoring. You will get 1970s performance out of one of those radios, however that is not so bad. They work great, one thing I cannot over stress; be careful with the plastic parts. The dial wheel is fragile and if you break it, your skills at plastic repair will be tested. My SB-101 works well except for one thing....
The VFO (in heathkit speak known as the LMO Linear Master Oscillator) has a weak tube and will shift frequency slightly from transmit to receive. I just need to replace the tube and all will be well again.
Thanks for the great info. Well aware of the potential crapshoot. I had three IB-1100 counters on my bench once and managed to get one working one out :)
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A buddy says that when he needs one it's FBH time !
You can work on the abbreviation. ;)
Fudge Bratislava Helicopter!
Fine Bologna Heros (type of sandwich on a long roll for those not in the know)
I thought it was Four Blue Hams (as in Heathkit transceivers). :-//
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Four Broken Heathkits?
(from experience)
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AF6LJ wrote: ..."If anybody can find me a manual for that LG 2720 spectrum analyzer that is not in Korean..."
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Have you looked at the manuals for the similar IFR/Aeroflex 239x series?
k04bb has the operations, programming, and service manuals for the 2398.
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AF6LJ wrote: ..."If anybody can find me a manual for that LG 2720 spectrum analyzer that is not in Korean..."
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Have you looked at the manuals for the similar IFR/Aeroflex 239x series?
k04bb has the operations, programming, and service manuals for the 2398.
No I have not, I shall have to.
You are right about the similarity.
I have a good idea what is wrong with it.
It passes cal but signal levels on the input connector are 16DB below what they should be.
Me thinks... the input switch (relay or most likely GASFET switch IC) is bad.
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Systron Donner... Counter + DMM
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little glowing Heathit Trio, restored and full working :)
and actually on the table: HP3456A (blowing the fuse)
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Nice work on the Heathkit meters. Pretty difficult to find them without cracked meter faces.
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Just cleaned the place up after shipping prototypes; figured I better take some photos because the lack of chaos won't last long.
(http://taiga.com/~jason/labphotos/IMG_0172.jpg)
(http://taiga.com/~jason/labphotos/IMG_0178.jpg)
(http://taiga.com/~jason/labphotos/IMG_0176.jpg)
(http://taiga.com/~jason/labphotos/IMG_0177.jpg)
(http://taiga.com/~jason/labphotos/IMG_0164.jpg)
(http://taiga.com/~jason/labphotos/IMG_0169.jpg)
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Nice SB-104 in the picture there. :)
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Just cleaned the place up after shipping prototypes; figured I better take some photos because the lack of chaos won't last long.
Nice - Be sure to post pics when there is chaos. That seems to be my style :-DD
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Wow! - :-+
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Oh I see a Yaesu FT-450! :clap:
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FT-450 owner club member checking in here too ;)
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FT450? :)
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That's a proper radio and is on my "will purchase in future" list. Tube finals would keep me warm in winter!
Perhaps we need a HRA (Ham Radio Anonymous) thread as well as the TEA one :D
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FT450? :)
Nice...
FT-101 line. :)
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Hi all,
I am retiring my wooden built workshop and have converted my brick built garage to a workshop.....yeah, who uses it for a car anyways?......the idea being much better heated/temperature stable and more secure. The old workshop will still house the heavy machinery (lathe, pedestal drill, laser cutter, bandsaw etc) but for my electronics etc it's the new shop.
I started with a clean slate but took much ideas and experience to the table from my experiences from my old workshop.
A long, deep workbench at 3mtr by 96cm, and means the deep shelf above for the test equipment doesn't 'roof' the workbench.
I like the 'L' shape I had before, means the PC etc on the left and the soldering iron etc on the right.
The workbench is a 1.5" thick wooden kitchen worktop.....very heavy! The base etc built myself from timber stock.
Lots n lots of shelving and lots n lots of 240v sockets.
Not 'signed-off' yet by the local council building dept. so can't "move in" as yet.....but prep work is well under way. Here's a few pics for now......more to come in when I get completely moved in!.
PS. The next batch of PDVS2's will be built in the new shop.
Ian.
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FT-450 owner club member checking in here too ;)
No FT-450 but FT-1000MP.
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Would like to have so much space! :|
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Nice benches folks....
As for Yaesu gear....
I own one it is not in the picture...
FT-200.
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FT-450 owner club member checking in here too ;)
No FT-450 but FT-1000MP.
Not a Yaesu but with the Icom 7610 coming out prices on the older monsters have dropped so a mint Icom 7800 has graced my shack bench.(I do have a Yaesu FT-817 though).
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Hi all,
I am retiring my wooden built workshop and have converted my brick built garage to a workshop.....yeah, who uses it for a car anyways?......the idea being much better heated/temperature stable and more secure. The old workshop will still house the heavy machinery (lathe, pedestal drill, laser cutter, bandsaw etc) but for my electronics etc it's the new shop.
I started with a clean slate but took much ideas and experience to the table from my experiences from my old workshop.
A long, deep workbench at 3mtr by 96cm, and means the deep shelf above for the test equipment doesn't 'roof' the workbench.
I like the 'L' shape I had before, means the PC etc on the left and the soldering iron etc on the right.
The workbench is a 1.5" thick wooden kitchen worktop.....very heavy! The base etc built myself from timber stock.
Lots n lots of shelving and lots n lots of 240v sockets.
Not 'signed-off' yet by the local council building dept. so can't "move in" as yet.....but prep work is well under way. Here's a few pics for now......more to come in when I get completely moved in!.
PS. The next batch of PDVS2's will be built in the new shop.
Ian.
Impressive! That is really nice. :-+
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I am retiring my wooden built workshop and have converted my brick built garage to a workshop.....yeah, who uses it for a car anyways?......the idea being much better heated/temperature stable and more secure. The old workshop will still house the heavy machinery (lathe, pedestal drill, laser cutter, bandsaw etc) but for my electronics etc it's the new shop.
Looking awesome, Ian! Sure to be a lot more comfortable and enjoyable in there.
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FT-450 owner club member checking in here too ;)
No FT-450 but FT-1000MP.
Not a Yaesu but with the Icom 7610 coming out prices on the older monsters have dropped so a mint Icom 7800 has graced my shack bench.(I do have a Yaesu FT-817 though).
Nice radio. My back up rig is a venerable Kenwood TS-940 SAT. Both share an 80 meter full wave loop with ladder line to a transition balun into the house with a 6' length of Belden 213 to the radios.
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The last 7 weeks my wife and I have been modernizing our house. My old lab/office was cramped with stuff that I did not need and generally just badly arranged. We redid the whole house (ceiling,walls, floor, electrical system etc etc) and the lab also got a well deserved makeover. Including 6 LED panels, each 45 W (4000K) as per Dave's suggestion in a video (in fact, a good part of my equipment here at home is due to Daves reviews, MSOX3024T, Rigol SA, Agilent 34461 etc). I now have 5 meters of desk space (compared to a maybe 60 cm wide area before).
Even the cat, Pedro, has his own place again :)
All is now operational and ready for tinkering again :)
PS: Lots of good pictures and ideas in this thread, thanks a lot !
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Is that bench top all one piece? DIY or custom made? If DIY, what did you use for wood?
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Compared to the other stuff on the bench, it looks like time to upgrade the hot air station. :o :-DD
A Quick 861DW would do the trick without spending a bunch of money. Seriously, it's that good (don't believe me, search the forum on this ;) ).
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@GreyWolfe,
the top is made of 38mm thick Oak. Its assembled (DIY) by two separate 250 cm tables that are put together with small tabs (slots are milled in the ends of both half). The table is then fixed to the wall with 4 brackets, one in each end and one on each side of the window in the middle, 8 legs are mounted as well :)
@nanofrog,
well, the BK4050 gives me adjustable temperature and adjustable air, solders my BGA packages very well, I'm not sure what I would get more from another one ?
The floor in the lab (and the whole house) is also oak (laminate), in the lab I have put a 5 meter long and 150 cm wide "ESD floor" strip. The bench will be covered in a single piece of ESD benchtop mat once it arrives.
EDIT: I see "nanoFrog" is now "banned" guess I will get no answer to my question. For other interested, this is the hotair I have: https://www.circuitspecialists.com/bk4050.html. (https://www.circuitspecialists.com/bk4050.html) Works perfectly for my work
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Ah Martin, a similar interest .
-The top FT 101E is a work in progress - some bugger had been cutting wiring out from underneath and lots of bits missing or not working. No crystals, no relay2, major power issues.
-The FT101EX needed a bit of work to get going - the LSB oscillator wasn't! It recently participated in a South Australian boat anchor net and got reasonable reports.
-The FRG 7 was a replacement for my first good receiver - long lost (well in a bushfire actually!)
-The scope and the Ext VFO are future projects - but the scope powers up and gives a trace.
Nearly had a hernia putting them all in place for the photo :-DD
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still I have no HAM licence, but before a gear goes in the junk I bring that and make a restoration ^-^
Here are at home;
Yaesu 101 line
Kenwood 520 line
heathkit SB line
and a glowing KWM 2A, add. some very heavy microphones from the 50`s and earlyer
greetings
Martin
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VK5RC, you need to have a word with EEVBlog user 'Radio Tech' over at The Radio Shop, from his videos he seems to be an expert on the FT101 series.
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I think we need a ham radio porn thread :D
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I am sure anyone on this blog would easily get their ham licence with a tiny bit of study - mainly the regulations.
Martin - what an awesome collection.
German EE - thanks for the tip, currently I am going ok, just keep finding more stuff wrong! But finding it and fixing it is what I enjoy (rather bizarrely!)
Rob
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Studio apartment doesn't leave a lot of spare room for lab work, but here's my mini-lab!
I want to get a decent ham radio, but the space isn't here for a good antenna. HTs will have to do for the time being!
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I like the “Pliersrack”. I’ve never seen that before. Source?
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Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MTYNUTP)
I found it when I was looking for better ways to organize my tools. It's really cheap, but quite sturdy. The mounting holes match up with the pegboard, too!
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Here's my small area in the garage, needs a bit of tidying up and organization, but it'll do for now.
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These compact setups look great, guys.
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Agree, nice working labs, not too neat - stuff actually happening!
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I am retiring my wooden built workshop and have converted my brick built garage to a workshop....
Very good, in two years you will be covert the garage in an apartment and your house in a Lab.
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and where is the radio? :)
the little TV works as monitor for the CW/RTTY/Pcket Decoder
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Hi all,
I am retiring my wooden built workshop and have converted my brick built garage to a workshop.....yeah, who uses it for a car anyways?......the idea being much better heated/temperature stable and more secure. The old workshop will still house the heavy machinery (lathe, pedestal drill, laser cutter, bandsaw etc) but for my electronics etc it's the new shop.
I started with a clean slate but took much ideas and experience to the table from my experiences from my old workshop.
A long, deep workbench at 3mtr by 96cm, and means the deep shelf above for the test equipment doesn't 'roof' the workbench.
I like the 'L' shape I had before, means the PC etc on the left and the soldering iron etc on the right.
The workbench is a 1.5" thick wooden kitchen worktop.....very heavy! The base etc built myself from timber stock.
Lots n lots of shelving and lots n lots of 240v sockets.
Not 'signed-off' yet by the local council building dept. so can't "move in" as yet.....but prep work is well under way. Here's a few pics for now......more to come in when I get completely moved in!.
PS. The next batch of PDVS2's will be built in the new shop.
Ian.
Hello Ian,
wow, that looks nice indeed - have fun and enjoy the building process!
I am envy-green now, I'd like to have 1/4th of your space...
Cheers,
THD+N_bad
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My workspace is a bit of a mess after my powersupply teardown & analysis video.
(http://i.imgur.com/LRa2QgRh.jpg) (https://imgur.com/LRa2QgR)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly1QGHXDToA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly1QGHXDToA)
I don't know how Dave and Shahriar do it. They must have table space for days :-DD.
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Yeah, have you seen how long Dave's big bench is? I'm not sure about Shahriar's after his move, but he had lots of bench space before.
A couple of vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhsgJnrkQYc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhsgJnrkQYc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ZTjwRCO8g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9ZTjwRCO8g)
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Yeah, have you seen how long Dave's big bench is? I'm not sure about Shahriar's after his move, but he had lots of bench space before.
They both have enough bench space to land a 737.
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8) GE
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Hi all,
Here's an update of my new workshop by way of a YT vid.
PS. There are two 'rooms' to the old workshop which I never spoke about, the lathe, pedestal drill, laser cutter, bandsaw etc will stay where they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW1FC_rGgAU&t (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW1FC_rGgAU&t)
Ian.
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It's getting a little tight in here.
Shortly after moving into my wife's old office (she thinks she retired) I was sitting there and I heard water running. Thought it was the rain for 3 hours. Ran upstairs when the water started coming out of the light. 2nd floor with all the bedrooms was flooded completely. We've been living without rugs, etc for months. Anyway, you can see the blue tape on the ceiling where the water caused damage. I don't know if I want them working in here or not.
What you can't see is the work table in the back corner. If you look closely, you can see my IC-7610.
Jerry
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Anyway, you can see the blue tape on the ceiling where the water caused damage. I don't know if I want them working in here or not.
Jerry
Jerry,
I wouldn't want to work in there if I were the contractor... too much expensive gear that could easily get broken with the tip of a ladder. If that's drywall, which it most likely is, now that it is dry I would just get some 1 5/8" drywall screws, find the joists, and put a screw every 6-8 inches where the ceiling sags or where a seam is split. You barely want the screw head to be recessed into the finish plane of the drywall. Then if you're worried about aesthetics, you could hit it with some drywall compound or "quick dry patcher" (drydex), sand a little, then paint it. I'd at least screw it in though, so you know it's secure and a sheet wont come flopping down on your goodies...
The contractor probably wont be as careful in that room as one might expect.. likely wouldn't cover your racks with plastic or dropcloth (not like you'd want them to do that part anyway...) and probably wouldn't wet-sand the patches to minimize dust. I hate saying this because I hate when customers do this to me, but if I were in your shoes I would be the customer that 'hovers' to make sure they don't damage anything, IF you even let them enter your domain.
Brian
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Hahaha. Yeah! I tried filming my first true teardown video and I couldn't stop running into my tripod. I was barely even able to set it up. Literally ran out of floor space! I had to jump over it to get from one side of work table to the other. I have concocted a spacer attachment for my old tripods that gives me more stability at shorter tripod base heights, so hopefully that helps out a bit. lol.
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I pushed back on them tearing out the drywall. I suggested they lift the subfloor above and look in there for mold. Arguments will follow, but it is my house after all.
Jerry
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My bench with a surprising level of tidyness as of today.
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That's "Rover"! Be careful :scared:
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Nice integrating sphere.
What work are you doing with it and what sensors are you using?
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Nice integrating sphere.
What work are you doing with it and what sensors are you using?
I test flashlights (http://budgetlightforum.com/node/57623) as a hobby. I'm using an i1Pro spectrophotometer.
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It's getting a little tight in here.
Shortly after moving into my wife's old office (she thinks she retired) I was sitting there and I heard water running. Thought it was the rain for 3 hours. Ran upstairs when the water started coming out of the light. 2nd floor with all the bedrooms was flooded completely. We've been living without rugs, etc for months. Anyway, you can see the blue tape on the ceiling where the water caused damage. I don't know if I want them working in here or not.
What you can't see is the work table in the back corner. If you look closely, you can see my IC-7610.
Jerry
That sucks so much, what was going on to have water flooding the upstairs?
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(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/mess_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/mess.jpg)
Way too many "pending" and permanent "in progress" projects detected. :palm:
Let's test attention.. How many Keithley's in the photo? :-DD
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Woah, TiN! Your lab exploded with projects.
How many Keithleys? Well, since you're the king of Keithley devices, there's probably more than I dare to count. ;D
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So many Keithley's we can't see his bed anymore.
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I am sure anyone on this blog would easily get their ham licence with a tiny bit of study - mainly the regulations.
Martin - what an awesome collection.
German EE - thanks for the tip, currently I am going ok, just keep finding more stuff wrong! But finding it and fixing it is what I enjoy (rather bizarrely!)
Rob
Rob,
That is the fun part of the FT-101. The way this unit is build makes it so fun to work on. Let us know how it turns out.
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Way too many "pending" and permanent "in progress" projects detected. :palm:
Let's test attention.. How many Keithley's in the photo? :-DD
I count twelve, what do I win? I should let you know that in order to reach this tally I needed to unzip my fly and take off one shoe and sock. Thats probably a good indicator for TEA.
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I see 13 Keithley products, but we can't count one because it no longer has the Keithley guts in it.
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(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/mess_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/mess.jpg)
Way too many "pending" and permanent "in progress" projects detected. :palm:
Let's test attention.. How many Keithley's in the photo? :-DD
That is about the optimum amount of entropy it takes to get things done.
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Let's test attention.. How many Keithley's in the photo? :-DD
14 ?
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(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/mess_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/mess.jpg)
Way too many "pending" and permanent "in progress" projects detected. :palm:
Let's test attention.. How many Keithley's in the photo? :-DD
That is about the optimum amount of entropy it takes to get things done.
Seems like no matter how many times you stop to re-organize your work space in the end it'll always return to this point. lol
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14 is the winner :D
I see 13 Keithley products, but we can't count one because it no longer has the Keithley guts in it.
It still has Keithley 7168 inside, and 25% of original 7001 (PSU and card interface board) so I'd say that's a Keithley :D.
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(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/mess_1.jpg) (https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/Lab/mess.jpg)
Way too many "pending" and permanent "in progress" projects detected. :palm:
Let's test attention.. How many Keithley's in the photo? :-DD
That is about the optimum amount of entropy it takes to get things done.
Seems like no matter how many times you stop to re-organize your work space in the end it'll always return to this point. lol
In about two months my workbench is going to return to that state and stay there for close to a year while I work on three ham radio related projects. A radio, power supply and floor model amplifier to be restored / rehabilitated.
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14 is the winner :D
Ah, OK. I only recognized 12.
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Missed 2400 without the head and nV 262 divider?
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Yeah, haven't seen a 262 before. Where's the 2400 in the photo?
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Under 4263B on the right.
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Oh, OK. Tricky. :)
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So much of this thread makes me want to buy a bigger bench or table so I have more space...dreams....
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Yes. My bench is 80x40cm :(
Still massively productive so it does the job :)
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Yes. My bench is 80x40cm :(
Still massively productive so it does the job :)
That's what she said?
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This is my workplace (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180303/1181da69b2314280975455d98d43fe06.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180303/5e2f96afc0469d913c88497ebfa5d08c.jpg)
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This is my workplace
Sigh. I am so envious of workspaces large enough to have a decently long bench.
Meanwhile here's my mechanical workbench, shown just to recalibrate anyone who thinks their space is messy.
Currently there are at least three projects in layers on this small bench. No electronics to speak of, though the current 'front' project is a vacuum hold-down, regulated-temp hotplate unit that at least has some relay logic, timer and setpoint controller.
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TerraHertz, I see a few tools in that photo that are more suited to automotive machining. Have you ever built an engine? I ask because I'm about to begin assembly of an LS1 iron block once the rest of the tools arrive.
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Meanwhile here's my mechanical workbench, shown just to recalibrate anyone who thinks their space is messy.
ALL my three are worse ! :P
Engineering down the shed.
GP bench in garage.
'tronics bench is worst ! ::)
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TerraHertz, I see a few tools in that photo that are more suited to automotive machining. Have you ever built an engine? I ask because I'm about to begin assembly of an LS1 iron block once the rest of the tools arrive.
Oh? Which tools do you mean?
I have a few machine tools; lathe, mill, etc. Just out of view there. Recently bought a 2nd bigger lathe, but haven't set it up yet due to needing to complete some building extension first. (See http://everist.org/NobLog/20171004_buying_lathe.htm (http://everist.org/NobLog/20171004_buying_lathe.htm) - long.)
Funny you should mention engines. No, I've never built one. But I do have this one (pic) to recondition. It's a spare engine same as in my car. Rather than make a general purpose engine mount, I just cut most of the old car away and mounted some castor type wheels on the remaining frame.
ALL my three are worse ! :P
You seem to have left three photos out of your post? ;D
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This is my workplace
Sigh. I am so envious of workspaces large enough to have a decently long bench.
Meanwhile here's my mechanical workbench, shown just to recalibrate anyone who thinks their space is messy.
Currently there are at least three projects in layers on this small bench. No electronics to speak of, though the current 'front' project is a vacuum hold-down, regulated-temp hotplate unit that at least has some relay logic, timer and setpoint controller.
you should fit some drawers under that workbench. then, all the tools lying on the workbench could go in the drawers.
lots of free space ON the workbench after that. and it's an easy "upgrade"
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you should fit some drawers under that workbench. then, all the tools lying on the workbench could go in the drawers.
lots of free space ON the workbench after that. and it's an easy "upgrade"
Ah no, there are plenty of storage spaces for the tools elsewhere. Several filing cabinets nearby. And under the bench is used for boxes of stuff that is best stored there (and nowhere else to put them.) My mech workshop is severely space constrained - it's a small single car garage.
Anyway, while I'm working on something, I find it easiest to let hand tools pile up close by. When a project gets finished I tidy them all away, then start again on the mess.
The bench working space is minimal atm, because there really are at least two other unfinished projects 'underneath' the mess. No wait, *three* other projects. So it didn't have a clean up for a while.
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Hi all,
I made my own workbenches (kitchen worktops and timber)......but I want to put a few drawers under them, maybe a few 40cm wide ones.
Somebody must make wooden (or whatever) drawers that can be retrofitted to a plain bench?....Can't find any Amazon or Ebay.
Any ideas?
Ian.
Update: Thanks to Kripton2035 for the reply below but just to clarify, I mean a single drawer that can be hung beneath the worktop.
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if you have an IKEA nearby, I'm sure you will find the drawers you need.
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if you have an IKEA nearby, I'm sure you will find the drawers you need.
I had a look online, but just to clarify I mean a single drawer that can be hung beneath the worktop. I'll have another look at Ikea (never been in one!).
Thanks,
Ian.
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I would suggest looking for steel tool drawers, as they will handle a good load, certainly better than a cheap desk type credenza drawer will.
Otherwise find some used low profile filing cabinets and do some butchery of them to separate the drawers and make a wooden case to hold the rails in place.
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You have to add small strips of mdf between the legs then you can mount standard drawerguiderails.
Take the rails that can fully extend. I have made my component drawers that way.
The front of the drawer extends over the sides so they will be hidden from sight.
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This is my workplace
Sigh. I am so envious of workspaces large enough to have a decently long bench.
Meanwhile here's my mechanical workbench, shown just to recalibrate anyone who thinks their space is messy.
Currently there are at least three projects in layers on this small bench. No electronics to speak of, though the current 'front' project is a vacuum hold-down, regulated-temp hotplate unit that at least has some relay logic, timer and setpoint controller.
you should fit some drawers under that workbench. then, all the tools lying on the workbench could go in the drawers.
lots of free space ON the workbench after that. and it's an easy "upgrade"
Agreed, that workbench needs some love. A little bit of time to organize. I'm usually a messy person, but there are definitely some benefits to cleaning up a bit ^-^
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I had a look online, but just to clarify I mean a single drawer that can be hung beneath the worktop. I'll have another look at Ikea (never been in one!).
Thanks,
Ian.
Never been in an Ikea. That's almost like that guy I met a while back who had never heard of Elvis Presley.
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I had a look online, but just to clarify I mean a single drawer that can be hung beneath the worktop. I'll have another look at Ikea (never been in one!).
Thanks,
Ian.
Never been in an Ikea. That's almost like that guy I met a while back who had never heard of Elvis Presley.
You could always make your own drawer too, just get a couple of those slide rails, then make a box with some handle's that fit the dimensions, and there you go, a drawer.
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I'm engraving some premium business cards.
I hope you will post a picture of one :-+
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My CNC desk. To be completed with a second layer for some tools and a second desk next to the CNC desk, but now at least it works.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=400983;image)
The work piece is a 0.8mm aluminum sheet that is being waxed down to the waste board. I'm engraving some premium business cards.
Is that a “imaging source” camera off to the right?
Looks like a few I found in the workshop, but I’ve not looked into how to test them yet.
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Nice Mitutoyo calipers, as well.
What is that keyboard on the picture ? Looks interesting. :)
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My minimalistic portable work bench setup.
I use it onboard our Unimog RV. Equipped with a pen-type DMM, a pocket DSO and a 12-24VDC soldering station.
My son helped to assemble a Geiger counter kit, when we were on a trip to Sardinia, Italy. HV insulation was a bit improvised using duct tape.
Tom
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Here we go... this is one of those very rare occasions when my humble bench is (almost) tidy ::)
(http://pisotones.com/Calambres/Taller/Bench.jpg)
More shots from my den...
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What is that keyboard on the picture ? Looks interesting. :)
My guess is that it came from:
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/ (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/)
I've been meaning to order one myself for months.
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That's not mine...
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=401109;image)
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My minimalistic portable work bench setup.
Thanks - I had wondered for a long time if anyone would show their minimalistic portable setup, especially one in an RV. :-+ Now I need an RV :-DD
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That's not mine...
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Literally a 'Man Cave'.. Just needs a few bats hanging off the ceiling and you've cracked it :)
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That's not mine...
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=401109;image)
Top marks for the bucket lamp shade. Is that the "Jungle" you speak of outside the window George?
McBryce.
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Top marks for the bucket lamp shade. Is that the "Jungle" you speak of outside the window George?
Ohhh, no, unfortunately that's not my jungle. Look, this is the view through that window:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=401392;image)
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Literally a 'Man Cave'.. Just needs a few bats hanging off the ceiling and you've cracked it :)
Another man's cave...
https://youtu.be/K0KmzM-OG1k
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This was the man cave of my wife's grandfather, located in eastern part of Germany. He was a true generalist: mechanic, blacksmith and carpenter. I was lucky to share some time with him there. When he set up his workshop, it was during the communist era, he was famous for forming super hardened chisels out of tank track bolts, he got the bolts from Soviet soldiers in exchange for schnapps.
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Here's my bench. Do mostly audio and test equipment repair. Recently revamped, and the new layout is much more conducive to getting work done... and making an even bigger mess!
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What is that keyboard on the picture ? Looks interesting. :)
My guess is that it came from:
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/ (http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/)
I've been meaning to order one myself for months.
Pretty sure it's a Happy Hacking Professional 2 (https://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=pfu_keyboards,hhkbpro2) keyboard. It's possible to order extra keycap sets and swap some for extra bling.
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Back to topic. My current lab at home.
U shaped wooden desk. On the left electronics work bench, on the right computing corner.
Some Hameg goodies including the 5014 spectrum analyser and the 1507 "150 MHz analog digital oscilloscope". Some HP stuff: 3314A easter egg function generator. 16702A logic analyser. The LA meanwhile refuses to boot, means I have to replace the internal SCSI disk and reinstall everything. Config and license data is saved on floppy and I got a restore CD from HP/Agilent/Verigy/Keysight/x branch office near Stuttgart. So restoration project can begin soon.
As you can see, I suffer from a severe lack of power supplies. Hope to get that gap closed asap.
Last photo: long-term test of geiger counters to support debuging of device firmware and optimize calibration curves.
Not shown - below the desks: Parts of my computer collection. Two Dell C6100 rackservers (8 nodes/64 cores/128 threads, 192GB RAM, 24 1TB disks). A almost vintage IBM X3200 tower server (my "8.8": 8 GB RAM/8TB disk space) for handling and sorting LTO tape backups. An HP Z820 work station for video editing and playing around with blender. A noname PC, without network/web access, with win XP and HP-IB interface card and all that software for the HP and Hameg equipment. Etc.
Tom
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This was the man cave of my wife's grandfather, located in eastern part of Germany. He was a true generalist: mechanic, blacksmith and carpenter. I was lucky to share some time with him there. When he set up his workshop, it was during the communist era, he was famous for forming super hardened chisels out of tank track bolts, he got the bolts from Soviet soldiers in exchange for schnapps.
That's some serious history there. What type of things other than the bolts did he make?
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This was the man cave of my wife's grandfather, located in eastern part of Germany. He was a true generalist: mechanic, blacksmith and carpenter. I was lucky to share some time with him there. When he set up his workshop, it was during the communist era, he was famous for forming super hardened chisels out of tank track bolts, he got the bolts from Soviet soldiers in exchange for schnapps.
That's some serious history there. What type of things other than the bolts did he make?
He didn't make bolts. He made chisels out of tank bolts.
McBryce.
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That's some serious history there. What type of things other than the bolts did he make?
The bolts came from scrapped tanks and he forged them into chisels. He also constructed his own sawmill saw: a large circular saw, where smaller tree trunks could be moved along on a sled running on rails out of two steel beams. So he was able to saw trees into bars and boards. It's on the first picture on the left. Remember, that almost everything at that time was on shortage behind the iron curtain and people had to improvise.
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This was the man cave of my wife's grandfather, located in eastern part of Germany. He was a true generalist: mechanic, blacksmith and carpenter. I was lucky to share some time with him there. When he set up his workshop, it was during the communist era, he was famous for forming super hardened chisels out of tank track bolts, he got the bolts from Soviet soldiers in exchange for schnapps.
That's some serious history there. What type of things other than the bolts did he make?
He didn't make bolts. He made chisels out of tank bolts.
McBryce.
Yea, sorry I did understand what he made from the bolts, I was merely stating his project that used the bolts.
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I would suggest looking for steel tool drawers, as they will handle a good load, certainly better than a cheap desk type credenza drawer will.
Otherwise find some used low profile filing cabinets and do some butchery of them to separate the drawers and make a wooden case to hold the rails in place.
+1
Example (https://www.amazon.com/Edsal-WD1218-Industrial-Drawer-Height/dp/B000LDN7M4/ref=pd_cp_60_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B000LDN7M4&pd_rd_r=DHY1RRHSHGC0037FG6TY&pd_rd_w=YbdtY&pd_rd_wg=FMVL7&psc=1&refRID=DHY1RRHSHGC0037FG6TY). Based on the link, not expensive either. :-+
FWIW, you might want to check for used, scratch & dent, some part you don't need that's damaged, ... types of stuff in office furniture stores.
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New bench built during the weekend...More space than before and more practical
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Nice work. Also appropriately sized legs and supports. I see a lot of people using tiny little sticks. Scares me.
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New bench built during the weekend...More space than before and more practical
Well done weekend project. I like it.
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New bench built during the weekend...More space than before and more practical
Very nice. :-+
Is this a Fluke 895A on the right under the Keithley?
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New bench built during the weekend...More space than before and more practical
Very nice. :-+
Is this a Fluke 895A on the right under the Keithley?
Thank you, no it's the Fluke 883AB.
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New bench built during the weekend...More space than before and more practical
Very nice bench :-+
Which are the dimensions ?
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New bench built during the weekend...More space than before and more practical
Very nice bench :-+
Which are the dimensions ?
The bench itself is 2200mm x 900m, the shelves are 2100mm x 450mm and 1700mm x 450mm. I wanted large shelves because some of my instruments are very long.
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I currently have a plastic rectangular table (the one you can bend and store) roughly 120cm wide. I wanna make 2 shelves mounted on the wall by dimensions of 150cm length, 30cm width, and about 18mm thickness (carpenter said it is good enough) made of wood and tightened to the wall by 3 metal angles.
Is this good enough? I live in a shared room with another guy so there is not much I can do. Maybe next year I will have my own house with garage, then I might ask you again :-+
I run Thundertronics video blog (lazy lately but will return to be active) so it is important for me to get my setup nice to make my recordings easier.
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I wanted large shelves because some of my instruments are very long.
For example, your HP 3456A :-+ :)
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This miniaturized workplace after the fans of marijuana and other fabrics robbed my workshop in the house moved (to the great pleasure of my wife) into a niche in the wall of our bedroom. Large stand drill and cut the saw blade into the hallway (and it was folding) so I was forced to move into the garage (now under reconstruction).
The work desk is made of a massive oak panel, the left drawer is purchased, the right drawer is its my production (missing the front of the drawers), in its bowels except the drawers there is a vacuum cleaner for workplace cleaning or for working with a small Proxon milling cutter, the worktop is not a dust layer, but an antistatic pad.
Besides notorious purchased components, other equipment of my own production, including LED lighting, there are still two things that are otherwise involved in the production process - the miniature compressor - is subject to the maintenance process and the soldering vapor extraction engine - waiting for a new hose
Because I do not only work here with electronics but also with 230V devices, grounding points are divided into two circuits. The green-yellow socket is straight ground and green is for connecting to 1M resistor.
Well I wrote more than enough, so at least some photo :)
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Detail of the panel, filtered power + USB hub and top shelf.
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Wow, cool workspace. Lots to explore in there.
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Power supply:
Top shelf - black box 0-30V 0-3A passive cooling, 10 speed potentiometers (my production - modified kit)
- green box - (my production) dedicated power supply for power tools AC / DC 12V 18V 100W
Work table: - right side: gray box - 9.5V- 13.8V 50A (57A limit) active cooling, rear output, remote control (my production -
Siglent SPD3303X everyone knows - it's not my production :)
Center: Measuring panel - V / A / W / kWh / time / Adjustable alarm limit /
Permanent 230V,
switch 230V,
anti short-circuit proof 230V /
In - audio, video / out USB2,5A , audio / data USB, Ethernet (my production)
Left-hand side: black box - single-purpose power supply for measuring instruments and devices - battery replacement - 9V, 13,8V (my production)
gray box - single-purpose module for vaporizer fumes soldering -
power regulation + soldering lighting + central activation of soldering stations (my production)
Large gray box: decoupling and regulating transformers 0-250V 12A (industrial production + my modifications)
There are a few fixed and adjustable adapters, they are tidy and I only take them if needed.
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Measurement: top shelf - yellow box - temperature - programmable industrial module with (my modification) - all kinds of sensors -
out for control of the device - acoustic signal - possibility of alarms
mini black box - artificial battery load (my production)
silver box - a product for testing PC resources (my production)
blue box - ready for production of desulphation acu (my production)
Work table: Rigol 3058E, Protek 506, Hantek DSO4202C, desk sockets: 2x Metex M3850D, 1x pocket dmm - HC32 and a few noname multimeters that are not worth talking.
logic probe with bcd code display (my production - 1984 and still working) and a lot of metering products my production
Other: top shelf - red box - PC interface - automatic or manual peripheral operation (my production)
timer + acoustic signal / 2x out (my production)
de-soldering stations (my production)
work table, Pioner test speaker, Cambridge Audio listener, fan with regulation, magnifying glass, microscope 1000x and dog - find the dog ;)
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Cool setup Edison - little different take on things. :-+
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Thank you for evaluating my workplace, and it is great pleasure from such experienced electronics.
All the workplaces here have their charm, and thanks to him and this blog, I have been renovating my workplace after a few years' time :-+ . It's not done yet, I still have an insatiable feeling, its low few devices :bullshit: ........ |O ....... :-DD
only the dog did not find anyone :)
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Detail of the panel, filtered power + USB hub and top shelf.
Great workspace, It's got everything you could ever want in arms reach. Can you explain more about the power bar you have?
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I'm about to make some major changes to my basement lab, but this is pretty much what the bench has been like for the last 7-8 years. I've used the same massive frame and surface for 40 years, and will continue to.
Of special note (and even a bit sad), after decades of flawless service, the Tek 7603 and plugins are about to be taken off the bench, maybe put on a scope cart at some point. If it weren't for the 7A22 and 7A13 plugins it would have happened already; they're what makes the 7000-series scopes unique.
Other items to be taken down are the Tek DSA601A (nice instrument but space hog), HP 3457A and 54201A, and Exact 625 .
In their place will go a VNA (not sure which yet, Anritsu MS420K is current fave), a just-repaired Lecroy 9450A (lovely instrument), an HP 3567A (if there's space), a 4-channel analog scope (Tek 2247A or 2245B?), a sig gen or two and bench multimeter yet to be determined. And extend the shelving to the left side.
Power supplies used to be in the hole to the left of the scope, but I no longer keep them on the bench. They are stored below and get cycled in as needed. As do more specialized instruments.
You don't get to see the rest of the room (or adjacent ones), it's so crammed full of stuff that its hard to walk around. But that's going to change gradually, starting now. "Space: the final frontier"...
The main problem I have keeping the bench orderly is that numerous projects/repairs are always going on simultaneously. I set parts/hardware aside knowing I'll need it "shortly", projects get sidelined or delayed, and the stuff still sits there. Easily half of the bench surface is taken up by that.
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Detail of the panel, filtered power + USB hub and top shelf.
Can you explain more about the power bar you have?
No problem :)
Upper PWR panel separate overvoltage protection and main switch for PC and peripherals pc.
Lower PWR panel is the equipment working table, these panels are two (right and left) on the control panel position with five switches - switch black color and LED - control measuring workplace (meter - orange jack), the second switch + LED - controls the white sockets on the sides of the measuring panel, dual USB and the lower PWR panels, the third switch controls the built-in vacuum cleaner and the other two workplace lighting (I can combine the chromaticity of the light 2700k 3500k 4500k 6000k - at 6000k it is nice to see the cold connections with the naked eye)
The middle white socket is only connected to the banana field, the presence of voltage is indicated by the LED in the right corner of the socket.
the other switching the 230V on the banana field is indicated by the LED, the green socket with the protector, the orange socket without a protector - both controls the right switch, the left switch is switching between the anti short-circuit proof circuit (LED lights green) and the hard power supply (LED lights red) for the measuring part of the panel.
Cinch modul - audio video in, jack 3,5mm audio modul switch in/PC for Cambridge Audio, Ethernet modul, PWR USB 2,5A modul, USB + GND modul - conect to PC for microscop and multimeter.
The meter in the panel provides for reading of voltage, current, power, calculates the cost of energy consumption and can set an alarm for exceeding the set current.
The measuring panel has separate protection and overvoltage protection, both panels ( central PWR and PC ) can be backed up by a large UPS (I am servicing - faulty batteries damaged the charging part).
If the problem or the end of the job is enough, turn off the switches and all is turned off, except for the red socket
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I'm about to make some major changes to my basement lab, but this is pretty much what the bench has been like for the last 7-8 years.
You have room for work :scared: half of table shifted projects, I have a pile in the bedroom and you have to hear you wife :blah: ...... :-DD
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You have room for work :scared: half of table shifted projects, I have a pile in the bedroom and you have to hear you wife :blah: ...... :-DD
Hey, it all starts in a bedroom :) Even my lab did.
My wife has passed so she no longer has anything to say about it. She was an artist and took no issue with my messes or multiple projects. You should have seen her studio. Made mine look organized :)
On days like today, with a biizzard blowing through, I have a nice wood heater to keep me toasty and soothe the spirit.
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You have room for work :scared: half of table shifted projects, I have a pile in the bedroom and you have to hear you wife :blah: ...... :-DD
Hey, it all starts in a bedroom :)
children :wtf:
On days like today, with a biizzard blowing through, I have a nice wood heater to keep me toasty and soothe the spirit.
I do not have a chimney |O I do not have a chimney |O I do not have a chimney |O ...............
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You have room for work :scared: half of table shifted projects, I have a pile in the bedroom and you have to hear you wife :blah: ...... :-DD
My wife has passed so she no longer has anything to say about it. She was an artist and took no issue with my messes or multiple projects. You should have seen her studio. Made mine look organized :
my work in the bank .........
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On days like today, with a biizzard blowing through, I have a nice wood heater to keep me toasty and soothe the spirit.
Also, someplace to throw that @^&%$#! shot 50 cent part that you spent a week figuring out was the reason that the UUT refused to boot. >:D
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Detail PWR panel. LED in the right corner of the white middle drawer is highlighting and can not be overlooked even in very bright light work
USB cable is just feeding my HTC
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I found it - detail of the connection points (put into the blank module) and PWR panel protection module (sockets for controlled peripherals) gray multicore cable for communication with the PWR panel terminated by an industrial ten-pin connector, protector in central fuse box
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This is my humble lab in my shared room so far! I just did the shelves and they are awesome to my needs!! I will get a Manfrotto clamb to shoot overhead videos properly by fixing it to one of the shelves and use the Manfrotto flexible arm to connect the camera. Best setup for overhead shots (and different angles too).
I call it "Future gadgets lab" which is inspired by Steins;Gate anime. I hope I can do great stuff in it. Pretty primitive tools I have as you can see.
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An interesting tripod in the right :-+ great work
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yes that is a good tripod with manfrotto flexible arm mounted on it.
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flexi arm, I just love it when I saw him come to the idea of a third hand :-+
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microscope 1000x and dog - find the dog ;)
I searched and searched and looked ... there is no dog.
Or, if there is one, he has a very good camouflage .... :-// :D
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microscope 1000x and dog - find the dog ;)
I searched and searched and looked ... there is no dog.
Or, if there is one, he has a very good camouflage .... :-// :D
>:D very very good camouflage :-DD dog exist
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I searched and searched and looked ... there is no dog.
Or, if there is one, he has a very good camouflage .... :-// :D
It is up behind the multimeter that has a temperature probe connected... 8)
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I searched and searched and looked ... there is no dog.
Or, if there is one, he has a very good camouflage .... :-// :D
It is up behind the multimeter that has a temperature probe connected... 8)
Bingo :-+ :clap: :clap: :clap: yeah dog in avatar
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The dog hides the BT transponder for the mouse - a toy toy on the finger from a son
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my work in the bank .........
Hey - someone has to pay the bills... :-DD
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Detail PWR panel. LED in the right corner of the white middle drawer is highlighting and can not be overlooked even in very bright light work
USB cable is just feeding my HTC
Is it all 240v or do you have your 12v 5v etc connected to some of those points? Also whats up with the composite connections?
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Is it all 240v or do you have your 12v 5v etc connected to some of those points? Also whats up with the composite connections?
Only 230V 50Hz (CZ distribution) or 5V in USB, low voltage only power supply - described on page 141
composite video + cinch audio - large TV under the ceiling - my workplace ends up under the ceiling (starting on the floor) :-DD
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Because this forum is lacking in the colour pink and needs a feminine touch:
I also vote cutest shoes in this thread and best wooden PCB board for the transformer..
What number TEK is that in the background?
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What number TEK is that in the background?
One of the TDS420 to TDS460 range?
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What number TEK is that in the background?
One of the TDS420 to TDS460 range?
Close dave did a video on it. 33XX. Thing has a noisy fan that drives me nuts and I haven't worked out the courage to open it up and fabricate a new fan.
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What number TEK is that in the background?
One of the TDS420 to TDS460 range?
Close dave did a video on it. 33XX. Thing has a noisy fan that drives me nuts and I haven't worked out the courage to open it up and fabricate a new fan.
33XX, sure? Can't find any Tek with this number scheme (four digits starting with 33)
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What number TEK is that in the background?
One of the TDS420 to TDS460 range?
Close dave did a video on it. 33XX. Thing has a noisy fan that drives me nuts and I haven't worked out the courage to open it up and fabricate a new fan.
33XX, sure? Can't find any Tek with this number scheme (four digits starting with 33)
2465. I was thinking of something else. Why can't they give the scopes names like Korean cars? It could be the TEK "Optimiser" or "Calutron 3000" oh wait that would be stupid like selling the Nova in mexico.
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What number TEK is that in the background?
One of the TDS420 to TDS460 range?
Close dave did a video on it. 33XX. Thing has a noisy fan that drives me nuts and I haven't worked out the courage to open it up and fabricate a new fan.
33XX, sure? Can't find any Tek with this number scheme (four digits starting with 33)
2465. I was thinking of something else. Why can't they give the scopes names like Korean cars? It could be the TEK "Optimiser" or "Calutron 3000" oh wait that would be stupid like selling the Nova in mexico.
OK, 2465 and TDS460 appear to have quite similar looking outer sleeves and handles
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Because this forum is lacking in the colour pink and needs a feminine touch:
I also vote cutest shoes ......
Wow :o , luxury measuring spikes :-+ :-DD
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Because this forum is lacking in the colour pink and needs a feminine touch:
I also vote cutest shoes in this thread and best wooden PCB board for the transformer..
What number TEK is that in the background?
What TEK? :)
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Because this forum is lacking in the colour pink and needs a feminine touch:
I also vote cutest shoes in this thread and best wooden PCB board for the transformer..
What is this workbench for? ;D :popcorn:
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Because this forum is lacking in the colour pink and needs a feminine touch:
I also vote cutest shoes in this thread and best wooden PCB board for the transformer..
What is this workbench for? ;D :popcorn:
Cat snoozing spot. Cat is probably off lapping milk, rather than milking lap.
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Because this forum is lacking in the colour pink and needs a feminine touch:
I also vote cutest shoes in this thread and best wooden PCB board for the transformer..
What is this workbench for? ;D :popcorn:
Holds make up stand and mirrors as well as nail polish collection. Have 10 different shades of pink.
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Because this forum is lacking in the colour pink and needs a feminine touch:
I also vote cutest shoes in this thread and best wooden PCB board for the transformer..
What is this workbench for? ;D :popcorn:
Holds make up stand and mirrors as well as nail polish collection. Have 10 different shades of pink.
Yeah, you want to make the things tasty for us ... >:D ;D
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=406093)
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=406093)
I’d buy that for our physical computing lab!
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Yeah, you want to make the things tasty for us ... >:D ;D
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=406093)
I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. :o
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Because this forum is lacking in the colour pink and needs a feminine touch:
I also vote cutest shoes in this thread and best wooden PCB board for the transformer..
What is this workbench for? ;D :popcorn:
Holds make up stand and mirrors as well as nail polish collection. Have 10 different shades of pink.
Yeah, you want to make the things tasty for us ... >:D ;D
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=406093)
:-DD :box:
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Yeah, you want to make the things tasty for us ... >:D ;D
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=406093)
What's the problem? This design isn't much different from the original design :puke:
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I absolutely do not like the circular display :bullshit: :-DD
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Whoever is responsible for the ridiculous front panel designs on Rigol equipment needs to be given another job. I haven't bought anything from Rigol since the DS1052E, mainly because I think their stuff just looks stupid.
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Whoever is responsible for the ridiculous front panel designs on Rigol equipment needs to be given another job. I haven't bought anything from Rigol since the DS1052E, mainly because I think their stuff just looks stupid.
So, the "Hello Kitty" design is an improvement? >:D
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So, the "Hello Kitty" design is an improvement? >:D
Sure :-DD , but for a great depth I do not fit into the workplace |O
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God that hello kitty skin makes me want to puke.... think i died inside just looking at it
On the other hand I actually do have this KS with the astronaut/space skin on it... had no idea it came with 4 stickers when i picked it up and just went wtf.. these people got to much time on their hands then immediately put the sticker on lol
(http://cp.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/CLP_HHSkin2.jpg)
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Finished setting up my hide-away mini-bench at home, so that I can work on interesting stuff.
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Finished setting up my hide-away mini-bench at home, so that I can work on interesting stuff.
:-+ :clap: very nice :clap: :-+
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I thought the forum was fine without all the PIMK however...........
I do want the HP-3478 Hello Kitty edition to go with my Hakko Hello Kitty edition.....
(The one I don't have yet). :P
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Finished setting up my hide-away mini-bench at home, so that I can work on interesting stuff.
Doesn't that SDG1062X have the wrong label on it ? ;)
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Doesn't that SDG1062X have the wrong label on it ? ;)
Why yes, yes it does. :)
I wish everything else was mislabeled.
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Doesn't that SDG1062X have the wrong label on it ? ;)
Why yes, yes it does. :)
I wish everything else was mislabeled.
Nice setup! Thats close to what im building.. just not a siglent dmm, how well do you like yours? I got the arb and a ps but still waiting in line for their new 4 channel scope
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Doesn't that SDG1062X have the wrong label on it ? ;)
Why yes, yes it does. :)
I wish everything else was mislabeled.
There's only so much you can do of course and for the SDM you can't magically turn a 3055 into a 3065X, the have different internals.
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Nice setup! Thats close to what im building.. just not a siglent dmm, how well do you like yours? I got the arb and a ps but still waiting in line for their new 4 channel scope
I like it. I think Siglent offers good price/performance. The features and user interfaces on the devices are fine for me, the accompanying PC connectivity applications (their EasyTools suite) are just ok. I'm an OCD matchy-matchy type, so having an equipment suite from a consistent brand is important to me. However, if I were to do it over again, for the minimal difference in cost I might have stepped up to the SDM3055 from the SDM3045X (not that I need anything the 55 offers over the 45 - I struggled to justify it to myself somehow, but failed).
There's only so much you can do of course and for the SDM you can't magically turn a 3055 into a 3065X, the have different internals.
Understood. The same is true with the SDS1104X -> SDS1204X. Plus, that was a bigger price swing that even the 45->55 I just couldn't justify. :)
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Nice setup! Thats close to what im building.. just not a siglent dmm, how well do you like yours? I got the arb and a ps but still waiting in line for their new 4 channel scope
I like it. I think Siglent offers good price/performance. The features and user interfaces on the devices are fine for me, the accompanying PC connectivity applications (their EasyTools suite) are just ok. I'm an OCD matchy-matchy type, so having an equipment suite from a consistent brand is important to me. However, if I were to do it over again, for the minimal difference in cost I might have stepped up to the SDM3055 from the SDM3045X (not that I need anything the 55 offers over the 45 - I struggled to justify it to myself somehow, but failed).
There's only so much you can do of course and for the SDM you can't magically turn a 3055 into a 3065X, the have different internals.
Understood. The same is true with the SDS1104X -> SDS1204X.
Not AFAIK. Same HW, SW limited. ;)
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Not AFAIK. Same HW, SW limited. ;)
Oh, really? I thought the front ends were different?
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Not AFAIK. Same HW, SW limited. ;)
Oh, really? I thought the front ends were different?
I invite you to dig out Dave's teardown of SDS1202X-E (#985) and watch for clues.
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Finished setting up my hide-away mini-bench at home, so that I can work on interesting stuff.
We have the same source Siglent (My X - is your X-E, or the wrong one eye can see)
how satisfied are you with him?
I just communicate with a representative of the manufacturer error in the software. data communication, otherwise I am very satisfied.
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Not AFAIK. Same HW, SW limited. ;)
Oh, really? I thought the front ends were different?
I invite you to dig out Dave's teardown of SDS1202X-E (#985) and watch for clues.
Dont forget 1042 ;)
I might investigate its fw if i have time... but looks like a few others already actively decode their files for the scopes and gens
One im interested in is if SPD3303X = SPD3303X-E, that might be fun to do
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One im interested in is if SPD3303X = SPD3303X-E, that might be fun to do
X is not equal X-E
X - ethernet + USB comunication, set point 1mV/1mA
X-E (economy) - USB comunication, set point 10mV/10mA
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One im interested in is if SPD3303X = SPD3303X-E, that might be fun to do
X is not equal X-E
X - ethernet + USB comunication, set point 1mV/1mA
X-E (economy) - USB comunication, set point 10mV/10mA
My -E has a usb... the sw mod would be 10/10 to 1/1 if its the same guts, not that most would even bother when considering the minimal difference but i like tearing into other peoples fw/sw
http://www.siglentamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2017/10/SPD3303X_DataSheet_DS0503X-E01A.pdf (http://www.siglentamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/dlm_uploads/2017/10/SPD3303X_DataSheet_DS0503X-E01A.pdf)
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My -E has a usb... the sw mod would be 10/10 to 1/1 if its the same guts, not that most would even bother when considering the minimal difference but i like tearing into other peoples fw/sw
Excuse X-E has an Ethernet difference in display -1digit. My Rigol does not have an Ethernet economy.
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My -E has a usb... the sw mod would be 10/10 to 1/1 if its the same guts, not that most would even bother when considering the minimal difference but i like tearing into other peoples fw/sw
Excuse X-E has an Ethernet difference in display -1digit. My Rigol does not have an Ethernet economy.
Right but its still just a TFT, so the question becomes can the SPD3303X code be modded to run a SPD3303X-E? And that gets to the fun bits
OR is it an identical codebase with just a bitflip? but that would make it a boring mod :p
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My -E has a usb... the sw mod would be 10/10 to 1/1 if its the same guts, not that most would even bother when considering the minimal difference but i like tearing into other peoples fw/sw
Then you might want to look here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ads-firmware-file-format/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ads-firmware-file-format/)
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I do remember viewing both of Dave's teardowns for the 1104 and 1204, and went back and re-watched them. I don't know why I was thinking they were different front ends. Old age, I guess. I haven't seen much chatter yet about a successful "upgrade" of the 1104.
Right but its still just a TFT, so the question becomes can the SPD3303X code be modded to run a SPD3303X-E? And that gets to the fun bits
OR is it an identical codebase with just a bitflip? but that would make it a boring mod :p
It's probably like the other devices where the codebase is the same, but there are one or more XML configuration files that determine the feature set. Once you get root access through the console, it's straightforward. The problem is, hacking the root password for the image is difficult and requires linux system image reverse engineering skills and plenty of time.
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I do remember viewing both of Dave's teardowns for the 1104 and 1204, and went back and re-watched them. I don't know why I was thinking they were different front ends. Old age, I guess. I haven't seen much chatter yet about a successful "upgrade" of the 1104.
Right but its still just a TFT, so the question becomes can the SPD3303X code be modded to run a SPD3303X-E? And that gets to the fun bits
OR is it an identical codebase with just a bitflip? but that would make it a boring mod :p
It's probably like the other devices where the codebase is the same, but there are one or more XML configuration files that determine the feature set. Once you get root access through the console, it's straightforward. The problem is, hacking the root password for the image is difficult and requires linux system image reverse engineering skills and plenty of time.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner ;)
Edit: I'd speculate its just because the scope model is newer to market and is just a matter of time... plus with an only difference of 100Mhz to 200Mhz and really even then you end up pushing its front end.. but still a decent sample rate if using it in two channel mode and 2/4 are shut off it looked like. Less of an attractor of some nutter like myself.. where as you take a Rigol... that thing has incentives written all over it.
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Somehow we escaped from topic :scared:
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@Edison, really cool setup. I like the side keyboard pull out idea!
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Somehow we escaped from topic :scared:
Welcome to the EEVBlog! :-DD
Again nice setup!
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@Edison, really cool setup. I like the side keyboard pull out idea!
At the place where the keyboard is usually - above the knees - I have an illuminating board for drawing circuit boards. is currently not fitted, is in the garage and is waiting for some modifications.
After completing nafotíme and show.
thank you for the compliment
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Welcome to the EEVBlog! :-DD
It is likely to be in all forums.
I also thank you for praise, i have a lot of photos, gradually insert
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Rigol "Hello kitty" supplement :-DD
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Yeah my container :-DD
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Rigol "Hello kitty" supplement :-DD
My wife has a tool kit a lot like that one. :-DD
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Rigol "Hello kitty" supplement :-DD
;D ;D
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Yeah my container :-DD
I am blind ! Need sunglasses!
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Those knipex shifting spanners are awesome. I have a 180mm set in my laptop bag along with a few “just in case” tools and it has saved my backside more times than I can count.
People think they are multigrips, but having parallel jaws that tighten when you apply force to undo a nut or bolt makes quick work of most things. That being said, if I’m in the workshop I have the correct size spanner or socket and will use the correct tool.
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Those knipex shifting spanners are awesome. I have a 180mm set in my laptop bag along with a few “just in case” tools and it has saved my backside more times than I can count.
What the heck you are doing to your poor laptop with a 180mm shifting spanner?? :wtf:
:-DD
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Useful tool that, I have them in all sizes from small, to if you don't come off I will rip you off size. Helps in times acting as an impromptu clamp for things.
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I just discovered the Knipex adjustable wrench - I like them.
Re "gentle persuasion" tools - I inherited from my father, a "Civil Engineer " a pair of Stilsons - each about a metre long.
You don't have to push hard with that amount of leverage >:D
However they do make an argument for steel capped boots if you ever drop one one your foot! :'(
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Those knipex shifting spanners are awesome. I have a 180mm set in my laptop bag along with a few “just in case” tools and it has saved my backside more times than I can count.
What the heck you are doing to your poor laptop with a 180mm shifting spanner?? :wtf:
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Definitely don’t use it on the laptop :P
I always have a few useful tools in my laptop bag (that knipex shifter, volt stick, Stanley knife, small ratcheting screwdriver set), you never know when it will come in handy. I know the dangers of volt sticks just before anyone jumps in. It’s more of a “yes, there is power” rather than a “no it definitely doesn’t”. If I need to be sure, out comes the proper gear.
I have a 400mm knipex set at home in the tool trolley. I got it for a ridiculously good price, but have never used it. One day I will use it I’m sure. It takes up nearly the width of one of my toolbox drawers.
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Yeah my container :-DD
I am blind ! Need sunglasses!
From the container no, rather from my light - on my small working surface of 6750 lm in LED
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If you have a ton of photos of individual items please consider starting a dedicated thread. I'm sure many people would want see it all in one place rather than piecemeal between other users posts showcasing their own humble bench setups.
Perhaps in the Other Equipment & Products Forum (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/) that is probably the perfect place for photos of individual items.
Good idea, I can create something like this in one topic and send photos next to the home workplace of my mobile workshop, a simple workplace in employment or a work area in my garage (it is currently under reconstruction)
First have to put the photos in a folder and I need to make a size adjustment and create a description. Let's see how time will be ::)
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I also thank you for praise, i have a lot of photos, gradually insert
If you have a ton of photos of individual items please consider starting a dedicated thread. I'm sure many people would want see it all in one place rather than piecemeal between other users posts showcasing their own humble bench setups.
Perhaps in the Other Equipment & Products Forum (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/) that is probably the perfect place for photos of individual items.
Another option would be linking to a dedicated collection of them on like imgur.com, once im done redoing my home office i'll most likely do this myself. Work was tossing a bunch of stuff so i collected it like the garbage collector .. i mean recycler that i am
My 8x10 or so spare bedroom is now wall to wall with desk space and shelving lol
I'm just itching to buy one of these https://akro-mils.com/Products/Security/AkroBin-Cabinet-HD4824F (https://akro-mils.com/Products/Security/AkroBin-Cabinet-HD4824F) These guys are only like 2 miles down the road from me to boot so no freight charge.. just back my truck up and go l :-/O
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We have a similar cabinet at work, but it does not have trays in the door
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I just discovered the Knipex adjustable wrench - I like them.
Re "gentle persuasion" tools - I inherited from my father, a "Civil Engineer " a pair of Stilsons - each about a metre long.
You don't have to push hard with that amount of leverage >:D
However they do make an argument for steel capped boots if you ever drop one one your foot! :'(
I have one that is about 2 feet long. I also have a 4 foot piece of pipe to add to my 1/2" socket wrench to make a hella breaker bar. Lug nuts don't stand a chance.
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I also have a 4 foot piece of pipe to add to my 1/2" socket wrench to make a hella breaker bar. Lug nuts don't stand a chance.
It's not 4' long, but a KT Pro A4103PR Bust-a-Bolt (https://www.amazon.com/KT-Pro-Tools-A4103PR-3-Piece/dp/B00GIE6W40/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1522545116&sr=1-1&keywords=bust+bolt) set does a nice job of it without busted knuckles IME (especially on the side of the road). ;) Works very well for front end suspension too.
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With that much leverage, even a 3/4 inch stud, with a nice rusted-on nut, can twist off very easily! Bless penetrene and an oxy torch!
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I haven't twisted off a stud yet. If there is a lot of rust, Liquid Wrench. That is what my dearly departed Dad used and is what i use. Very gentle persuasion so far as easily removed lug nuts.
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With that much leverage, even a 3/4 inch stud, with a nice rusted-on nut, can twist off very easily! Bless penetrene and an oxy torch!
Won't do any good if something's been Loctite'd in.
Only heat/impact/bigger spanner or the oxy torch can help you then.
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I had to laugh, the two big stilsons' nickname was - 'gentle persuasion' :)
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I had to laugh, the two big stilsons' nickname was - 'gentle persuasion' :)
Nah :P that's already reserved for my 12lb sledge !
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I had to laugh, the two big stilsons' nickname was - 'gentle persuasion' :)
Nah :P that's already reserved for my 12lb sledge !
Same here. the big adjustable spanner is called "fits most" simply because the smaller sizes just the mass of it tends to break them off.
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While we're showing nut-persuaders... I call this guy 'reason'.
38" Breaker bar, 3/4" square socket drive.
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While we're showing nut-persuaders... I call this guy 'reason'.
38" Breaker bar, 3/4" square socket drive.
Nothing quite like a good long breaker bar for those stubborn nuts.
Damn it! Thats the third one i've sheared off in a row! Well, i suppose, at least it's off. :-DD
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With that much leverage, even a 3/4 inch stud, with a nice rusted-on nut, can twist off very easily! Bless penetrene and an oxy torch!
Won't do any good if something's been Loctite'd in.
Only heat/impact/bigger spanner or the oxy torch can help you then.
Been there, got the t-shirt and burned it. High temp red Loctite on 5/64" allen key set screws in brass gears. Walmart special propane torch to loosen them. I rebuilt about 300 laminator units with 2 gears and 2 set screws each. I probably recycled that twice that many at least due to the heads already being stripped when they were tightened.
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Short update 8) New (old) VNA, SMU, RF Power Meter, 7.5 dmm and so on :)
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nice base of measuring technology :clap:
we have the same magnifying glass :-+
super BFX :clap:
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What kind of "pegboard" is that?
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Just a question here, how much space is necessary for a nice home lab?
Right now I live in a shared room with another guy so my lab is only one table (approx. 120cm by 50cm or so) and above it there are 2 wall mounted shelves (150x30cm). I have lots of stuff in a travel bag since I don't have anywhere to store them xD.
I run a video channel called "Thundertronics" as you can find in my signature. So for example, can I have a good lab in the garage or something? or it must be in a room? Because I record audio too so it has to be with little noise as possible. I will be moving to a separate house later on which has a garage.
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Just a question here, how much space is necessary for a nice home lab?
Right now I live in a shared room with another guy so my lab is only one table (approx. 120cm by 50cm or so) and above it there are 2 wall mounted shelves (150x30cm). I have lots of stuff in a travel bag since I don't have anywhere to store them xD.
I run a video channel called "Thundertronics" as you can find in my signature. So for example, can I have a good lab in the garage or something? or it must be in a room? Because I record audio too so it has to be with little noise as possible. I will be moving to a separate house later on which has a garage.
I'd say you need about a square meter more than whatever it is you currently have. ;D No matter how much room you have, you always seem to run out too quickly. Then again, I've seen people do amazing things even though they have almost no space.
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Just a question here, how much space is necessary for a nice home lab?
Right now I live in a shared room with another guy so my lab is only one table (approx. 120cm by 50cm or so) and above it there are 2 wall mounted shelves (150x30cm). I have lots of stuff in a travel bag since I don't have anywhere to store them xD.
I run a video channel called "Thundertronics" as you can find in my signature. So for example, can I have a good lab in the garage or something? or it must be in a room? Because I record audio too so it has to be with little noise as possible. I will be moving to a separate house later on which has a garage.
I'd say you need about a square meter more than whatever it is you currently have. ;D No matter how much room you have, you always seem to run out too quickly. Then again, I've seen people do amazing things even though they have almost no space.
The garage is supposed to include a mini home gym (1 bench machine with 1 blacksmith or something)... So dunno if it is gonna be enough.
What if I want to make a 2 table lab (back to back) like what eevblog used to be?? in order to shoot videos with my shelves at my back.
I wonder if there are ways to make somehow a room in there? woods and glass maybe? because it will be dusty with poor lighting.
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Just a question here, how much space is necessary for a nice home lab?
Right now I live in a shared room with another guy so my lab is only one table (approx. 120cm by 50cm or so) and above it there are 2 wall mounted shelves (150x30cm). I have lots of stuff in a travel bag since I don't have anywhere to store them xD.
I run a video channel called "Thundertronics" as you can find in my signature. So for example, can I have a good lab in the garage or something? or it must be in a room? Because I record audio too so it has to be with little noise as possible. I will be moving to a separate house later on which has a garage.
I'd say you need about a square meter more than whatever it is you currently have. ;D No matter how much room you have, you always seem to run out too quickly. Then again, I've seen people do amazing things even though they have almost no space.
The garage is supposed to include a mini home gym (1 bench machine with 1 blacksmith or something)... So dunno if it is gonna be enough.
What if I want to make a 2 table lab (back to back) like what eevblog used to be?? in order to shoot videos with my shelves at my back.
I wonder if there are ways to make somehow a room in there? woods and glass maybe? because it will be dusty with poor lighting.
FWIW, the specifics will matter (room size, amount of wall space, ...).
Wish I could be more specific, but it's genuinely impossible to make any realistic recommendations based on zero specifics (i.e. room dimensions, what you need/plan to do in the near future with the bench <bench requirements>, and whatever else that room/space must accommodate).
FWIW, Dave Jones and others have (or made) sufficient space to accommodate large benches (i.e. multiple tables/benches in a single room, ... what have you...). In my case for example, I've a couple of benches that add up to a bit over 10 ft/3.3m end-to-end. Of course this wouldn't be possible if I didn't have a wall that was long enough of course.
FWIW, shelves, drawers, and what-not can allow you to keep a bunch of stuff off of the table surface/s IME. Really helps if you have or can make the space for such things.
In my case, I have wire racks in unusual places, such as closets or beneath the table/bench surfaces. I also have drawer units mounted directly beneath the table surfaces, as well as peg board to keep tools and such off of the bench/table surfaces as much as possible.*
* Doesn't mean the table/bench surfaces don't look like they've been hit by a Tornado though; just less so without other places to put tools and such. >:D
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Just a question here, how much space is necessary for a nice home lab?
My desk is 160x60 and the net work area is 80x45
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Just a question here, how much space is necessary for a nice home lab?
Right now I live in a shared room with another guy so my lab is only one table (approx. 120cm by 50cm or so) and above it there are 2 wall mounted shelves (150x30cm). I have lots of stuff in a travel bag since I don't have anywhere to store them xD.
I run a video channel called "Thundertronics" as you can find in my signature. So for example, can I have a good lab in the garage or something? or it must be in a room? Because I record audio too so it has to be with little noise as possible. I will be moving to a separate house later on which has a garage.
I'd say you need about a square meter more than whatever it is you currently have. ;D No matter how much room you have, you always seem to run out too quickly. Then again, I've seen people do amazing things even though they have almost no space.
Very true. I also have seen people make unbelievable use of tiny spaces. For another one of my hobbies I have seen someone setup a fully functional work space in a closet 1Msq.
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Just a question here, how much space is necessary for a nice home lab?
Right now I live in a shared room with another guy so my lab is only one table (approx. 120cm by 50cm or so) and above it there are 2 wall mounted shelves (150x30cm). I have lots of stuff in a travel bag since I don't have anywhere to store them xD.
I run a video channel called "Thundertronics" as you can find in my signature. So for example, can I have a good lab in the garage or something? or it must be in a room? Because I record audio too so it has to be with little noise as possible. I will be moving to a separate house later on which has a garage.
I'd say you need about a square meter more than whatever it is you currently have. ;D No matter how much room you have, you always seem to run out too quickly. Then again, I've seen people do amazing things even though they have almost no space.
Very true. I also have seen people make unbelievable use of tiny spaces. For another one of my hobbies I have seen someone setup a fully functional work space in a closet 1Msq.
But that very small space is not good for shooting videos and so on as I am doing now. So I guess the best plan is to dedicate a whole room in a house for this. The problem is that my house is going to be only one spare room (aside from master bedroom) which is the company policy. When I have a kid, either me or him out! and I am a proud Saiyan prince!!
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As others have said, there are too many variables. For a workbench, space is the inverse of time. It takes time to stay neat, organized, and to plan ahead. At work, I have access to entire rooms filled with available workstations. At home, I have a tiny workbench, and I make do.
Regarding space to film, I say that's also the same. There are many youtubers that use one tiny area for all their filming and with proper editing (which takes time) it works out well. On the other hand, I've seen some with giant work areas and equipment spread out all over. They end up just swinging the camera around and wasting time re-focusing, etc. It's very distracting. It would have been more effective to condense the stage and properly edit the video.
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The first 10 years of my electronics hobby took place on a tabletop that was about 2' x 4' (not much more than 1/2 square meter) with two small shelves above it. The amount of space you need probably will depend mostly on what you want to work on.
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I will be moving to a separate house later on which has a garage.
Dave started in a corner of his garage. Check out his first videos for a sample of what can be done in a small space.
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Dave started in a corner of his garage. Check out his first videos for a sample of what can be done in a small space.
Or see what https://www.youtube.com/user/bigclivedotcom (https://www.youtube.com/user/bigclivedotcom) and https://www.youtube.com/user/TheDefpom (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheDefpom) are doing on a very small space.
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This is not where I spent my first 10 years as an electronics hobbyist. That bench was in an even smaller closet. Unfortunately I have no photos of it.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=183895;image)
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When i was he lived with my mom, had to work the whole room and in the cellar an old plumbing workshop (there i was building motorbikes).
When moved to after wedding own i also worked in the closet 100x50. Unfortunately i have no photos. :--
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you speak about a lab in a closet or so... but in which room is it in? don't tell me it is in bedroom!
My idea is to use a space in the garage for doing so, and I guess it will be enough. However, what if I want to make a confined or closed room in it? Is it possible to put some glass walls or so? this is to keep it warm and isolated from outside as well as the noise stuff.
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Mine is actually a hallway closet. The hall connects living room, bedroom and bathroom.
For your construction project, is there any place that sells building products near you? If so, look for rigid foam insulation board, it's useful for many things.
I buy this kind at Home Depot.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/R-Tech-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-R-1-93-Insulating-Sheathing-320810/202533656 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/R-Tech-1-2-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-R-1-93-Insulating-Sheathing-320810/202533656)
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What kind of "pegboard" is that?
I think its some kind of universal tool holder. From Lidl as I remember.
Plastic "pegboard" and some different clips and hooks.
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My workbench is called the kitchentable by the rest of the family
I have everything in drawers in a cabinet in the livingroom
So I always have to setup the things I need when I start and have to store everything away when I stop or when we have dinner :(
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My workbench is called the kitchentable by the rest of the family
When I was a student, it was the same for me. :-DD
It started to change when I married and left my parents home.
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My workbench is called the kitchentable by the rest of the family
I have everything in drawers in a cabinet in the livingroom
So I always have to setup the things I need when I start and have to store everything away when I stop or when we have dinner :(
The wife lets you keep "untidy rubbish" in the living room? what about guests and so on?
When I was a student, it was the same for me. :-DD
It started to change when I married and left my parents home.
You mean when you have a shared room? then it is like my condition.
So now in your own house with your waifu, where is your lab? how big? pictures are nice.
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I shared the room with my brother, there was place only for our beds and a small desk.
After getting married and leaving my parent's house, I have put a desk in our bedroom. I could work using the bed as a chair.
My wife is incredible patiently.
Now, I have my workbench in a spare room. It measures 113 x 66 cm and the shelf is 30 cm deep.
You will find a picture of it in the page [123] of this thread
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I shared the room with my brother, there was place only for our beds and a small desk.
After getting married and leaving my parent's house, I have put a desk in our bedroom. I could work using the bed as a chair.
My wife is incredible patiently.
Now, I have my workbench in a spare room. It measures 113 x 66 cm and the shelf is 30 cm deep.
You will find a picture of it in the page [123] of this thread
The lesson here is to invest in a good wife before investing in electronics!
So that spare room of yours, is it only for the lab? I know myself, I cannot have a shared thing with anyone so I have got to make my lab in a separate area. Looks like the final solution is using the garage which looks like 60-70 squared meters or so according to those who saw it, let it be 50 and still good enough.
I plan something like 4m by 3m area confined in a glass walls (are they called like this?) to eliminate noise and dirt...etc. I wonder if someone here made something similar.
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In the spare room there are: my workbench, a desk with the computer, our bookcase, some closed shelves and my wardrobe (the one of my wife is in the bedroom).
Marrying her was the best thing I have done in my life ^-^
Look the whole thread, there are very interesting pictures of different labs there.
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In the spare room there are: my workbench, a desk with the computer, our bookcase, some closed shelves and my wardrobe (the one of my wife is in the bedroom).
Marrying her was the best thing I have done in my life ^-^
Look the whole thread, there are very interesting pictures of different labs there.
One idea could be instead of glass walls which are expensive, I could make fiber glass ones which are a lot cheaper and portable. how much your lab's area? I plan to make my future one 4mx3m but if I couldn't then I make it 3mx2m or so. I need benches from 2 sides to do video shooting and so on.
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The room itself has the shape of a fat "L".
The main part is about 4 x 2,5 m and the small part is 1,7 x 1,3 m.
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After getting married and leaving my parent's house, I have put a desk in our bedroom. I could work using the bed as a chair.
My wife is incredible patiently.
Another bedroom worker :-DD perhaps to establish a thread "workshop in the bedrooms" :palm: :-DD
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After getting married and leaving my parent's house, I have put a desk in our bedroom. I could work using the bed as a chair.
My wife is incredible patiently.
Another bedroom worker :-DD perhaps to establish a thread "workshop in the bedrooms" :palm: :-DD
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It could be a nice idea, lots of us started this way :-DD
Your set up is a lot more professional that the one I had in my bedroom.
Luckily, my days of "workshop in the bedroom" finished in 1996. Maybe I still have a picture somewhere.
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I got married young, so my bachelor's bedroom/workshop/gym/clothes hamper didn't last long. Now, there's not enough room given the throw pillows, fringed curtains, various duvets, blankets, frilly women's clothing, knick-knacks, toiletries, etc :palm:
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I got married young, so my bachelor's bedroom/workshop/gym/clothes hamper didn't last long. Now, there's not enough room given the throw pillows, fringed curtains, various duvets, blankets, frilly women's clothing, knick-knacks, toiletries, etc :palm:
Yippee! I have a bedroom :-DD
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Yet another rearrangement (compaction) of my workspace.. Moved my belt sander off the electronics bench entirely so I could move the PC monitor back a bit and make room for a new aquisition - the Agilent 34401A - also the DIY PSU (which sits next to it). Just testing that PSU now with the Maynuo 7910 but as it only offers 150w max capacity it's not making much impression. PSU fan remains at default slowest setting and it never even gets warm after 15min. Not too surprising as it's built from 1/4" thick alloy and is basically one huge heatsink :) The Maynuo is barely accessible being as it resides on the top of the stack but the PC control software works well so it doesn't matter too much.
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Cor that’s rather busy. Certainly made the most of the space there!
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Chris, can you take a closer picture of your andonstar 302 and more on its stand ? it seems higher as normal.
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Cor that’s rather busy. Certainly made the most of the space there!
Sometimes feels like I'm sat inside a big box of kit... :)
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Chris, can you take a closer picture of your andonstar 302 and more on its stand ? it seems higher as normal.
I just moved the lens up in the holder, then attached a ring LED light to the bottom of it.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/879/40916094324_74a707439d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/25kBFm9)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/936/41586701612_a65262d1bf_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26mSHwL)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/820/39819034230_e31dc6795f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/23EEXAW)
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that's a really clever idea ! this way you can get lower magnification and it's perfect for soldering. thanks.
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Oh those people with that much money... :'(
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Oh those people with that much money... :'(
What?
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Sounds like Yansi might be referring to all the gear in Chris' compact setup and the total dollars/euros/buckazoids/etc. that might be represented there.
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Yet another rearrangement (compaction) of my workspace.. Moved my belt sander off the electronics bench entirely so I could move the PC monitor back a bit and make room for a new aquisition - the Agilent 34401A - also the DIY PSU (which sits next to it). Just testing that PSU now with the Maynuo 7910 but as it only offers 150w max capacity it's not making much impression. PSU fan remains at default slowest setting and it never even gets warm after 15min. Not too surprising as it's built from 1/4" thick alloy and is basically one huge heatsink :) The Maynuo is barely accessible being as it resides on the top of the stack but the PC control software works well so it doesn't matter too much.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/928/26753466957_195c2a11f6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GL7vDF)
I like the "backlit" meter and component section, I assume there is a now non-functional window behind that stack?
McBryce.
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Sounds like Yansi might be referring to all the gear in Chris' compact setup and the total dollars/euros/buckazoids/etc. that might be represented there.
If he's anything like most others on this forum, it's a matter of making smart purchases and diligent saving and repairing. When you take that into account the total is still respectable, but much more manageable.
Tl;dr it's not just throwing stupid money at it.
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I agree, a great set up like Chris', that would still be cheaper than a 'bad' car purchase. It is a lot about priorities and persistence, with a bit of cash flow!
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Opportunist lurking on ebay works for me. Lots of bargains to be had. Slow methodical progress is good too. I think my bench worked out at around £56/month ($80) expenditure over 2 years and that includes the PC, all the test gear and an HF transceiver and the bench itself. I've bought, repaired and sold equipment to cover that entire cost and more.
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Sounds like Yansi might be referring to all the gear in Chris' compact setup and the total dollars/euros/buckazoids/etc. that might be represented there.
If he's anything like most others on this forum, it's a matter of making smart purchases and diligent saving and repairing. When you take that into account the total is still respectable, but much more manageable.
Tl;dr it's not just throwing stupid money at it.
How much do you estimate it?
I am interested about where to put all these things? I mean should he dedicate one room for the lab or is that in his garage or so?
I agree, a great set up like Chris', that would still be cheaper than a 'bad' car purchase. It is a lot about priorities and persistence, with a bit of cash flow!
Again, you are talking about a subjective matter. For someone like me I can barely manage to pay 50-100$ per month for electronics in my current status (will get better after this year), but for some they are able to pay 5k for electronics parts and gadgets.
I buy stuff one by one and aim for very cheap Chinese stuff like 21$ oscilloscope and Aneng 8009 multimeter. I am buying jelly bean parts right now from Aliexpress to stock on them like lm358, lm324, and so on (what do you suggest here btw?).
My lab now consists only of one table (approx 120x? cm) and 2 wall-mounted shelves (150x30cm).
Opportunist lurking on ebay works for me. Lots of bargains to be had. Slow methodical progress is good too. I think my bench worked out at around £56/month ($80) expenditure over 2 years and that includes the PC, all the test gear and an HF transceiver and the bench itself. I've bought, repaired and sold equipment to cover that entire cost and more.
Can you give specific examples and how to do it.
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Opportunist lurking on ebay works for me. Lots of bargains to be had. Slow methodical progress is good too. I think my bench worked out at around £56/month ($80) expenditure over 2 years and that includes the PC, all the test gear and an HF transceiver and the bench itself. I've bought, repaired and sold equipment to cover that entire cost and more.
Can you give specific examples and how to do it.
Might be more difficult from Jordan as there's likely less of a supply/demand problem in UK/US. I have a script which runs every 2-3 minutes and alerts me if there are any new things on ebay which are very low priced with certain keywords. This has taken a couple of years to get right, but writing stuff like that is my day job :)
Main thing if you don't want to go to this level of effort is use an ebay smartphone app and set up some saved searches ordered by newly listed which are in your budget. Then check back every couple of hours or so or when you see fit and be patient. Lots of ridiculous bargains come along all the time. So for example:
1. Oscilloscope (entire of ebay search)
2. Newly listed
3. Price < your budget
4. item location = wherever you are ok with sourcing from.
Look at sold prices on ebay for items that you are after to work out how much budget you need and what is a reasonable price.
I will buy a lot of dead stuff that people are afraid to fix as well. Tektronix scopes can be had for not a lot of money if they don't work and can be sold for a lot when you make them work. £30 spend = £150 return.
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Sounds like Yansi might be referring to all the gear in Chris' compact setup and the total dollars/euros/buckazoids/etc. that might be represented there.
Probably not my stuff there are so many other posters in this thread with expensive kit. All mine were bought as used items - with the exception of the Siglent PSU. :)
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I like the "backlit" meter and component section, I assume there is a now non-functional window behind that stack?
McBryce.
Yes indeed - and I often go around outside to look at the back of the instruments to check connections because it's easier than trying to pull them out :) . Bad news is that the sunshine (UV) is not really going to do the kit much good and I should put some sort of screen over the glass. The thought of taking that lot out to get at it though... :scared:
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level of effort
The level of this effort is........: IT IS OVER NINE THOUSANDS!!!!!
As you said, me being in Jordan has a limitation which is shipping. Your 50$ analog scope could cost me 150-200$ totals due to shipping. So I cannot buy equipment like you do which kills the whole purpose. No one has such equipment locally due to no interest except for universities which they themselves don't give away or sell their scopes. I only found one guy who had a scope willing to sell it (Hitachi v212 or so), he asked for around 110 JDs which is a lot really, then he disappeared |O
If I am willing to get a scope, I would look for free giveaways and I only pay them the shipping price. This is the only way it will ever work.
Aside from that, how about components?
Can you kindly list your jelly bean\commonly stocked parts? I am still collecting.
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The level of this effort is........: IT IS OVER NINE THOUSANDS!!!!!
As you said, me being in Jordan has a limitation which is shipping. Your 50$ analog scope could cost me 150-200$ totals due to shipping. So I cannot buy equipment like you do which kills the whole purpose. No one has such equipment locally due to no interest except for universities which they themselves don't give away or sell their scopes. I only found one guy who had a scope willing to sell it (Hitachi v212 or so), he asked for around 110 JDs which is a lot really, then he disappeared |O
If I am willing to get a scope, I would look for free giveaways and I only pay them the shipping price. This is the only way it will ever work.
Aside from that, how about components?
Can you kindly list your jelly bean\commonly stocked parts? I am still collecting.
There's a good post over at Stack Exchange listing common jellybean parts, but if money is tight I'd look at specific projects and order a larger quantity of what's required from China. That way you don't pay for parts you may never use.
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Sounds like Yansi might be referring to all the gear in Chris' compact setup and the total dollars/euros/buckazoids/etc. that might be represented there.
If he's anything like most others on this forum, it's a matter of making smart purchases and diligent saving and repairing. When you take that into account the total is still respectable, but much more manageable.
Tl;dr it's not just throwing stupid money at it.
Never totalled it up, but compared to my other hobbies (obsessions) electronics is cheap :)
Just don't even think about getting sucked into astrophotography... :scared:
Two of my (many) scopes/cameras:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/802/41643641171_672d0394e1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26rUxFi)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/878/26776001537_cc20417b9f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GN71oV)
And control room to run it all remotely/automatically:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/857/40752560455_4993b3e73f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/256awqF)
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There's a good post over at Stack Exchange listing common jellybean parts
Can you link it? I searched and found different results.
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Don’t bother buying jelly bean parts. Just buy what you need for a project and buy some extras and sorted.
I’ve got about 75kg of parts floating around and I couldn’t populate more than 20% of the last two boards I did from it.
Tayda are worth looking at for cheap stuff in bulk which isn’t crap.
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Don’t bother buying jelly bean parts. Just buy what you need for a project and buy some extras and sorted.
I’ve got about 75kg of parts floating around and I couldn’t populate more than 20% of the last two boards I did from it.
Tayda are worth looking at for cheap stuff in bulk which isn’t crap.
The problem is sometimes I need a thing and I don't find it, such as mosfets and zeners lately.
The parts I have (or already ordered) are:
1- resistor assortment. 1280 pieces.
2- elec. caps assortment.
3- ceramic caps assortment.
4- lm358. I have x100 smd in a tube and ordered another 50 or so in DIP. Also ordered smd to dip adapter for them.
5- lm324. ordered around 50-100, I don't remember.
6- diodes assortment. IN4001~7.
7- LEDs x500 5 colors.
8- low power npn and pnp transistors.
9- IRLIZ44 x10 pieces.
10- BD437 and BD438. x10 of each... nice higher power transistors.
11- power resistor 1R 50Wat. x5
12- GD900 thermal paste. x5
13- small heatsink. x2
14- IRL640A. x10
15- mini dc-dc boost converter. x5
16- mini dc-dc buck converter. x10
17- buck-boost module. x1
18- buck module x3
19- LM317. 5 modules and 20 bare pieces.
20- RGB LEDs x20.
21- header pins... good quantity.
22- on\off buttons. x5
23- heat shrinks... a small kit (enough).
24- silicon pads, small 30 pieces.
25- tactile push buttons. x100
26- pots (different sizes and values).
27- 10-turn pots. x3
28- screw terminals x20.
29- Arduino pro mini x5
30- Arduino nano v3. x3
31- mini dc voltmeter module x6
32- prototype boards... a kit of different sizes.
33- altoid-like tins x3
34- aluminum enclosure x1
35- plastic instrument enclosure x1
36- plastic box enclosure. x1.
37- solder wick. crap brand and never worked!
38- wires kit.
39- panel meter. x1
40- ac-to-dc module.
That is my collection without mentioning tools and so on. Looking forward to enhance it with your feedback.
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I aim to do the following projects:
1- lab bench power supply (uses the instrument enclosure, ac-to-dc converter, and buck converters...)
2- diy electronics dc load (aluminum enclosure + opamps + logic level N-MOSFET).
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Your workspace looks like one of those cyberpunk hacker labs in sci fi. Inpressive
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Just don't even think about getting sucked into astrophotography...
Wow.
Very cool :-+
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Just don't even think about getting sucked into astrophotography... :scared:
Pics online link? :popcorn:
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Just don't even think about getting sucked into astrophotography... :scared:
I used to do that; I still have the roll-off roof observatory in my backyard. Other than very expensive, it is brutal for those of us who need to sleep and get up for work. Now the observatory is a shed.
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You guys are all crazy.
I'm really glad being here. ;D
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Yes. Regularly I use the threads on here to justify to my wife that I’m very low on the crazy scale and I could be much worse :D
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Yes. Regularly I use the threads on here to justify to my wife that I’m very low on the crazy scale and I could be much worse :D
Subtle threats can be very effective. ;D
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Never totalled it up, but compared to my other hobbies (obsessions) electronics is cheap :)
Just don't even think about getting sucked into astrophotography... :scared:
Two of my (many) scopes/cameras:
That is just sick... totally jelly, always wanted to do that but costs a ton lol
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Just don't even think about getting sucked into astrophotography... :scared:
I used to do that; I still have the roll-off roof observatory in my backyard. Other than very expensive, it is brutal for those of us who need to sleep and get up for work. Now the observatory is a shed.
That is really nice.
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Yes. Regularly I use the threads on here to justify to my wife that I’m very low on the crazy scale and I could be much worse :D
same here, but doesn't help much...
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Yes. Regularly I use the threads on here to justify to my wife that I’m very low on the crazy scale and I could be much worse :D
same here, but doesn't help much...
Yep, same here also. The first time, actually the only time, SWMBO came to a ham club meeting, on the way home, she looked at me and said, "Oh my God, there are more just like you." Not sure if that was a backhanded compliment or simply backhanded. :-// Now, years later, she actually wants to come with me when I go to the Melbourne Florida hamfest in October. Who's crazy now, my dear? :box:
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Yes. Regularly I use the threads on here to justify to my wife that I’m very low on the crazy scale and I could be much worse :D
same here, but doesn't help much...
Yep, same here also. The first time, actually the only time, SWMBO came to a ham club meeting, on the way home, she looked at me and said, "Oh my God, there are more just like you." Not sure if that was a backhanded compliment or simply backhanded. :-// Now, years later, she actually wants to come with me when I go to the Melbourne Florida hamfest in October. Who's crazy now, my dear? :box:
:-DD :-+
Mine just put up with my 'hobby' but as the years ticked by started this ::) until the marketplace started to take some notice of the stuff I now handle......now she shows some keen interest. :phew:
However we just know it might be something to do with $$$. :P
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Sounds like Yansi might be referring to all the gear in Chris' compact setup and the total dollars/euros/buckazoids/etc. that might be represented there.
If he's anything like most others on this forum, it's a matter of making smart purchases and diligent saving and repairing. When you take that into account the total is still respectable, but much more manageable.
Tl;dr it's not just throwing stupid money at it.
Never totalled it up, but compared to my other hobbies (obsessions) electronics is cheap :)
Just don't even think about getting sucked into astrophotography... :scared:
Oh, no! If I get bored with electronics, that looks like a candidate for next hobby. Actually, it'd just be an extension of the electronics. :scared:
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Sounds like Yansi might be referring to all the gear in Chris' compact setup and the total dollars/euros/buckazoids/etc. that might be represented there.
Probably not my stuff there are so many other posters in this thread with expensive kit. All mine were bought as used items - with the exception of the Siglent PSU. :)
Likewise. Except for my DS1054Z, a couple of DMMs, and some kit test equipment, everything else in my lab is either nice used gear or stuff I've fixed up. And it takes time to get the most bang for the buck.
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I finally got a new desk yesterday and am currently in the setup phase :)
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the people that have abrasives near their test equipment scare me.
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Is that a Vision Engineering TS-3 ?
Wondering what working distance you have under the lens?
I am looking for a Barlow lens for mine and a stronger light source.
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the people that have abrasives near their test equipment scare me.
Same feeling ... especially thinking about fine dust, particles flying around and get suck into the ventilation intake at T&M equipments. :scared:
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Same feeling ... especially thinking about fine dust, particles flying around and get suck into the ventilation intake at T&M equipments. :scared:
Display scratching, insulating blankets of dust or worse, conductive dust or particles getting stuck in devices or sockets. :-BROKE
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the people that have abrasives near their test equipment scare me.
What abrasives ? :-//
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What abrasives ? :-//
Chris mentioned moving a belt sander off the desk to make room.
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What abrasives ? :-//
Chris mentioned moving a belt sander off the desk to make room.
Lol that was 8 days ago.... :-) Thanks for clarification..
Regards,
Sinisa
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What abrasives ? :-//
Chris mentioned moving a belt sander off the desk to make room.
Yes it wasn't a good place for it. On the other hand, I was aware of the potential problems and had fitted a powerful vacuum extractor to it so dust didn't go anywhere other than down the hose to the filtered collector some 10ft away. I also clean the work area regularly with the same hose and a brush attachment. It's still an issue though but one I'm forced into accepting due to lack of space.
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Is that a Vision Engineering TS-3 ?
Wondering what working distance you have under the lens?
I am looking for a Barlow lens for mine and a stronger light source.
That is the TS-4 with 0.7x lens (4.2x to 28x zoom) the 30° oblique viewing attachment.
Working distance that I measured is 117 mm and 34 mm with the 30° attachment, though that’s only useful for inspection anyway. The brochure for the TS-3 (http://www.visioneng.com/Portals/0/Brochures/DiscontinuedProducts/TS-3-Brochure-English.pdf) states 113 mm working distance, so give or take some mm :)
As far as I can see, the TS-3 and TS-4 seem to be identical. I am looking forward to attaching a camera but still need to figure out what kind of adapter is needed. VE is not really a help in that regard. All my inquiries to DE/UK/US have been answered with: This device is obsolete, we can not tell you more about it.
Edit: I have the 250W illumination kit and from the datasheet of the 24V 250W halogen light bulb it seems to only put out 800 lumen. I am working on a Nichia high CRI (95+) COB LED replacement "retrofit". I am going to post the results here in the forums, might take a while however.
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Some pictures of my lab, which I shared with my graduating students..
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421792;image)
On top of the rack, there's a TimeElectronics direct current source, an hp34401A, another programmable direct current source for 10µA, 100µA and 1mA, a programmable AC current source (U/I converter) for 100µA ... 100mA. Below is a Krohn Hite 4400A ultra low distortion generator, NF3961B Lock-In amplifier, an hp3458A (11/1989), Keithley 199 with scanner card, a TTL timing-box for precise triggering of the 3458A, a PM6669 counter, the AFGU from Rohde und Schwarz, a Hameg scope, a sizzling hot 80386-20MHz AT-PC with '387 coprocessor, a spare KH 4024 oscillator, and an hp740B.
To the right, there's a double Dewar cryostat, about 1m high, silvered with window stripes.
The outer dewar usually contains the liquid nitrogen as a termal shield, and a huge copper coil for 100mT can be inserted & cooled. The copper coil, and the 20A/20V 4 quadrant PSU obviously was just used elsewhere.
The inner dewar contains the liquid He4. The sample stick is inserted into the Helium, and samples can be applied via the top vacuum cap. Attached to the side of the sample stick, there's a low noise audio differential amplifier.
This apparatus measured the magnetic susceptibility of High-Tc-Superconductors, various precision wound Hartshorn coils can be seen here:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421798;image)
The windings were done manually using a loupe spectacles. The inner pick-up copper wires were 40µm / 2 x 500wdg. and the outer field wires were 50..80µm / up to 2000 wdg., w/o any dislocation over 10..20 layers.
The 3458A was used as an ultra linear and fast 16..18bit A/D converter, and the FFT of the 195Hz signal could be calculated in real time.. some assembly code for collecting the data over GPIB was required at 20MHz.. On the screen, the ultra low distortion of 0.0009% or an SNR of -101dB of the hp3458A and the KH4400A is demonstrated.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421804;image)
Here's our nitrogen cow, a 200l metal dewar vessel.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421810;image)
The superconducting magnet inside the huge He4 dewar vessel generated fields up to 7T at 63A by the power supply / control unit from Oxford Instruments. The turbo molecular pump allowed lowering the He4 temperature from 4.2K to about 1.4K, and so to apply magnetic fields of up to 8T at 73A.
At these high fields, the monitor display got quite distorted, like the ac-signal from the samples. Latter was the subject of my thesis.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421816;image)
And here's the soldering and sample preparation table, obviously the students did not clean up:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421903;image)
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In the basement, I've got a separate workshop for the loud / dirty /chemical stuff:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421822;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421828;image)
The whole calibration equipment is located in another room in the basement, at naturally constant 20..22°C the whole year.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421834;image)
The time-nuts instruments: The 5335A displays its internal OCXO compared to the GPSDO, Trimble Thunderbolt.
About 1.2E-9 deviation @ 10sec Gate Time, even after at least 1 year of continuous operation of the OCXO.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421840;image)
The Efratom FRS-C Rb standard is fed as the 10MHz reference to the rear of the hp5370B, and the GPSDO to the input, so comparing both frequencies directly at about 10s Gate Time. That's about 1E-11 deviation.
This uncertainty of the Rb clock has to be determined by collecting data over a longer period of time, and creating the Allan Distribution Statistics, as the jitter of GPS, and of the 5370B (30ps typ.) are larger than 1E-10 at a small Gate Time.
From this chart, measured and created by TimeLab (from ke5fx), you can see, that at 0.1sec Gate Time, the jitter is in the 1E-9 range, so over 1000 sec of averaging is necessary to access the 1E-11 area. 1sec Gate Time needs at least 100sec averaging, and 10sec Gate Time is close enough to give below 1E-11 uncertainty.
The TimeLab contains other measurement modes to determine frequency deviations directly, or to use the Time Interval mode for 1pps outputs of the standards to be compared.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=425569;image)
Then here are the volt-nuts instruments :
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421846;image)
The DIY boxes consist of a Reference Divider (as 752A), 2 LTZ1000 references with 7 => 10V amplifier and a decade divider (as 720A), 5 further LTZ1000 references, 5 VHP202Z 10kOhm references, and a constant current source. Stability Level for the DC units is about 1ppm, for AC down below 10ppm.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421852;image)
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Very nice pictures of your Lab(s) Dr.Frank.
I the function key template on your 3458A a self made one or was that one available at one time from HP?
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Very nice pictures of your Lab(s) Dr.Frank.
I the function key template on your 3458A a self made one or was that one available at one time from HP?
I second that, looks Great!
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Very nice pictures of your Lab(s) Dr.Frank.
I the function key template on your 3458A a self made one or was that one available at one time from HP?
It's handmade, of course , printed on paper carton
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I finally got a new desk yesterday and am currently in the setup phase :)
FENDER RHODES?
Your workstation can't get any better than that.
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I finally got a new desk yesterday and am currently in the setup phase :)
FENDER RHODES?
Your workstation can't get any better than that.
Yes, that is one of the ongoing projects :)
Bought it some time ago in a very sad state (but for kind of small coin). After cleaning it up and fixing the main issues of missing rubber tips etc. I installed some mods (counter weights, back-check, pedestal bumps a.k.a. "miracle mod"). Since I could move it to my new room lately, I could work on it some more and did a complete re-wiring. Would never have thought what big of a difference that would make! The wiring is now back to stock, with the option to split the bass section to a separate output jack (just because someone already tried to do that, added the extra jack, but failed in the process of doing it proper).
As you can imagine I enjoy having it sitting there a lot. Right now it gets amped by a an active Mackie monitor that is a bit oversized for the room...
Edit: It is a Stage 73 Mark I, built in week 16 of 1977 by the way.
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It is a Stage 73 Mark I, built in week 16 of 1977 by the way.
What a wonderful original instrument. :-+ :-+
I have only a fatar grand touch and an iPad... 8) ;)
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you speak about a lab in a closet or so... but in which room is it in? don't tell me it is in bedroom!
Not the closet stood in the hall, I'm in the bedroom now :-DD
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I finally got a new desk yesterday and am currently in the setup phase :)
Classic Rhodes too
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In the basement, I've got a separate workshop for the loud / dirty /chemical stuff:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421822;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421828;image)
The whole calibration equipment is located in another room in the basement, at naturally constant 20..22°C the whole year.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421834;image)
That's what I call the space to work, you have it beautiful and the equipment :-+ :clap: :-+
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Some pictures of my lab, which I shared with my graduating students..
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421810;image)
When sharing with students, you are 10 ° or 12 ° :-DD :-DD
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This is where the various probes are used to test subject materials and count the various particles and rays. That is my main hobby, for which the rest is simply support.
Hi
Maybe you can answer a question that came to me a while ago. - "How many particles pass through an eyeball each second?"
Also what is the name of the particle that passes through the earth?
thanks
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Sounds like Yansi might be referring to all the gear in Chris' compact setup and the total dollars/euros/buckazoids/etc. that might be represented there.
If he's anything like most others on this forum, it's a matter of making smart purchases and diligent saving and repairing. When you take that into account the total is still respectable, but much more manageable.
Tl;dr it's not just throwing stupid money at it.
Never totalled it up, but compared to my other hobbies (obsessions) electronics is cheap :)
Just don't even think about getting sucked into astrophotography... :scared:
Two of my (many) scopes/cameras:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/802/41643641171_672d0394e1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26rUxFi)
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/878/26776001537_cc20417b9f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/GN71oV)
And control room to run it all remotely/automatically:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/857/40752560455_4993b3e73f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/256awqF)
OMG, that is so frigging COOL!
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(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/857/40752560455_4993b3e73f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/256awqF)
What size scope was used on the bottom second from left screen?
I would like to see a galaxy (see the spiral shape) before I die. The first step is finding the size needed then find one somewhere.
I would like to see it with my eye not on a screen. Also can you describe a little what it took to get this view.
Very nice setup.
thanks
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"Hi
Q1) Maybe you can answer a question that came to me a while ago. - "How many particles pass through an eyeball each second?""
A1) A bunch. How many depends on where you are. In space they are called Cosmic Rays, and can stimulate "seeing sparkles" Within the Earth's atmosphere they are called Cosmogenic Muons (see below).
Q2)Also what is the name of the particle that passes through the earth?
A2) Cosmogenic Muons. Cosmogenic means they were formed by the action of Cosmic "Rays".
Muons are indirectly formed high in the Earth's atmosphere when a very high energy charged particle from a galactic origin beyond the Solar System interacts with a gas atom. These originating particles were at first thought to be rays and were named Cosmic Rays, a misnomer that has unfortunately survived until today.
Cosmogenic Muons are odd in that they are heavy particles of matter, but are traveling at relativistic speeds (near the speed of light). This gives them highly unusual qualities.
Am I wrong to guess you knew all that already?
Geo
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What size scope was used on the bottom second from left screen?
I would like to see a galaxy (see the spiral shape) before I die. The first step is finding the size needed then find one somewhere.
I would like to see it with my eye not on a screen. Also can you describe a little what it took to get this view.
Very nice setup.
thanks
Most galaxies are fairly dim to the eye, though a few (Andromeda, Pinwheel for e.g.,) can be seen with the naked eye. Using modest amateur telescopes (say, 6-12" aperture) with an eyepiece it still requires observing experience an patience to tease out structural details, and there is no colour - just shades of fuzzy grey. The larger the aperture then the more detail you see - but not the colour. A keen obervational astronomer would use something like a Dobsonian reflector telescope with an aperture up to around 24-30", those are big telescopes.
Using a cooled CCD camera you can capture both detail and colour and you don't need a large aperture either, a 5-6" refractor is good for most objects. The reason is that the sensor can collect light (photons) and integrate over a long period of time, the eye simply cannot do that.
For this image of the Andromeda galaxy I used a modest 5" refractor:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8320/28547866480_9c219ebc0c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KuFh7u)
This galaxy cover a large area of sky, several moon-widths, a big telescope needs to work at very low magnification and even then it will not show all the galaxy in one field of view.
Smaller (i.e., smaller angular size = more distant) galaxies like the ones on screen in that photo are correspondingly dimmer but are actually easier to observe through a telescope. Again, that image of M81 and M82 (in Ursa Major) was taken using a 5" refractor.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7610/16216569033_dc3e69e1c1_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qH19ZP)
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Am I wrong to guess you knew all that already?
Thank you, I did not know. :-+
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@ChirsLX200, Simply amazing :clap:
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For this image of the Andromeda galaxy I used a modest 5" refractor:
Thanks - I learned a lot today :-+
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Here's a link to my folder on the topic.
http://www.qsl.net/k/k0ff/VOLT_NUTS/Work_Stations (http://www.qsl.net/k/k0ff/VOLT_NUTS/Work_Stations)
http://www.qsl.net/k/k0ff/ (http://www.qsl.net/k/k0ff/)
Lots of interesting stuff in there! But sheesh, I thought my site was minimalist. everist.org.
Those pancake detectors, can I ask what's your source, cost, and is there a datasheet online?
Also what is the name of the particle that passes through the earth?
I'm surprised he didn't mention neutrinos. Those are mostly from the Sun.
But I didn't know there were other particles that went right through the Earth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_neutrino_problem (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_neutrino_problem)
http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jnb/Papers/Popular/Scientificamerican69/scientificamerican69.html (http://www.sns.ias.edu/~jnb/Papers/Popular/Scientificamerican69/scientificamerican69.html)
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"Hi
Q1) Maybe you can answer a question that came to me a while ago. - "How many particles pass through an eyeball each second?""
A1) A bunch. How many depends on where you are. In space they are called Cosmic Rays, and can stimulate "seeing sparkles" Within the Earth's atmosphere they are called Cosmogenic Muons (see below).
Q2)Also what is the name of the particle that passes through the earth?
A2) Cosmogenic Muons. Cosmogenic means they were formed by the action of Cosmic "Rays".
Muons are indirectly formed high in the Earth's atmosphere when a very high energy charged particle from a galactic origin beyond the Solar System interacts with a gas atom. These originating particles were at first thought to be rays and were named Cosmic Rays, a misnomer that has unfortunately survived until today.
Cosmogenic Muons are odd in that they are heavy particles of matter, but are traveling at relativistic speeds (near the speed of light). This gives them highly unusual qualities.
Am I wrong to guess you knew all that already?
Geo
The answer to the second question could also be Neutrino.
McBryce.
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Absolutely neutrinos of various origin. By the bucketload. Billions and Billions. But because they are neutral and have no charge, they wouldn't be noticeable in the eyes. Thank goodness. Neutrinos would be a better answer to that part of the question. Thanks.
Muons on the other hand are charged and leave a trail of disturbed atoms behind them, and rarely go all he way through the Earth.
But statistically even Gamma Rays can go through the Earth, the probability is low.
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You're probably thinking of neutrinos. Those sneaky things interact so rarely with other things that it's very hard to detect them. It also allows them to sail straight through massive objects like it's not there. Even solar masses aren't really an issue.
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For this image of the Andromeda galaxy I used a modest 5" refractor:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8320/28547866480_9c219ebc0c_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KuFh7u)
Very nice. :clap: My mind is blown. I had no idea you could do that with a 5 inch telescope.
Now the big question; approximately how much would it cost for the setup to take this picture (telescope, electronics, hardware, etc.) :scared:
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^If you have to ask, your not going to want to spend it. Obsessive hobbies know no monetary value.
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^If you have to ask, your not going to want to spend it. Obsessive hobbies know no monetary value.
Sadly, that doesn't work. I tried declaring my house an obsessive hobby, but the bank still wants its loan back. Bugger.
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For this image of the Andromeda galaxy I used a modest 5" refractor:
Very nice. :clap: My mind is blown. I had no idea you could do that with a 5 inch telescope.
Now the big question; approximately how much would it cost for the setup to take this picture (telescope, electronics, hardware, etc.) :scared:
Well you don't need to spend too much money to get a decent result - say, £1k-1.5k for everything including camera, but astrophotography is an intrinsically expensive hobby and if you're a perfectionist who isn't happy with the flaws produced by anything less than top quality then you get sucked into the whirlpool. I happen to use kit capable of much more tricky objects than that simple RGB image, I use a 10-Micron GM2000HPS robotic mount, A big (sensor) cooled CCD camera (requiring correspondingly large 54mm narrow-band filters), and several different telescopes (that particular one being a Televue NPS127 fitted with autofocuser). There is also an almost endless list of accessories needed.
I will try to frighten you off :) The aforementioned filters (OIII, SII, Ha in 3nM bandwidth) were close to £1k each. The mount currently runs around £12k (that's just the head, needs extra stuff to work too like counter weights etc.,), the 5" Televue scope about £8k, the Moravian CCD camera about £5k. Believe me, that's just the start of the expenses..
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I am going to point at your post the next time my wife complains about the odd 200 quid disappearing here and there :-DD
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electronics can be a cheap hobby compared to astrophotography ...
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True story. I collect "vintage" computers. I have two friends from college, one of whom collects (and plays) symphony orchestra instruments, the other collects Corvette cars. All three of our wives complain. My musical friend and I, whenever challenged, would reply "at least I don't collect Corvettes". My musical friend's wife finally tired of this response and retorted "at least if you collected Corvettes, they wouldn't be in the damn house".
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True story. I collect "vintage" computers. I have two friends from college, one of whom collects (and plays) symphony orchestra instruments, the other collects Corvette cars. All three of our wives complain. My musical friend and I, whenever challenged, would reply "at least I don't collect Corvettes". My musical friend's wife finally tired of this response and retorted "at least if you collected Corvettes, they wouldn't be in the damn house".
Time to build a garage and buy a Corvette. At least one.
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"...buy a Corvette. At least one...
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I'm in.
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"...buy a Corvette. At least one...
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I'm in.
Looks like those years of playing Tetris were well spent.
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True story. I collect "vintage" computers.
Do you have IBM5100? to hack SERN and save the world from dystopia.
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Do you have IBM5100? to hack SERN and save the world from dystopia.
Nope, that's one I don't have.
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Do you have IBM5100? to hack SERN and save the world from dystopia.
Nope, that's one I don't have.
Then we are fked!! Now SERN will create a time machine and makes dystopia which enslaves mankind.
Also, we won't be able to solve year 2038 problem.
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latest pic of my workbench.
Melbourne, Australia
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I'm not ashamed...have fun seeing what stuff is lying around.
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Then we are fked!!
Such is the will of Stein's Gate :)
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latest pic of my workbench.
Melbourne, Australia
I don't trust folks with a work bench too clean.
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Then we are fked!!
Such is the will of Stein's Gate :)
El Psy Congroo!
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I don't trust folks with a work bench too clean.
I kinda envy them, I spent way too much time searching for some tool or part I knew was lying somewhere on the bench buried :)
But a clean bench could mean a lot of things:
- a partner that cleans up after you, naaaaaaah never heard of that.
- you have no projects , naaaaaaah never heard of that.
- you're a tool and TM collector instead of a tinkerer
- you are in doubt which project to start
- you're in the drawing phase on the computer
- a burglar robbed your tools
and so on....
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..mild OCD
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I'm not ashamed...have fun seeing what stuff is lying around.
What sort of work are you doing with the optical system? :popcorn:
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Im still alive. :popcorn:
Wow the number of posts. This is awesome and you all are awesome.
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I'm not ashamed...have fun seeing what stuff is lying around.
What sort of work are you doing with the optical system? :popcorn:
It's a variation on laser-Doppler velocimetry/anemometry applied to nanoparticles dispersed in liquid and moving in an electric field. The particles move with a velocity related to the electrical potential at the interface of the liquid and the surface of the particles. The optical system measures the velocity. Specifically, it measures the phase change of the light scattered by moving particles (a Doppler shift). I'm reinventing my own wheel from 30 years ago (my PhD) and taking advantage of the amazing progress in electronics to significantly improve it. Even though it sits near my lawn mower, I can measure 500nm diameter particles oscillating by 5nm while undergoing a random walk with <1nm accuracy. It corresponds to a change in the frequency of the laser light of one part in one quadrillion :) The instrument allows you to assess the amount of charge on the particles. The more charge there is, the more resistant they are to aggregating together. Aggregation is something you want to avoid in something like paint but is something you want to promote in waster water treatment where you want to precipitate out suspended particles (e.g., clay from papermaking). Hence, having a quantifiable property that you can measure helps in developing the products/processes that are influenced by the charge.
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Well this is my lab. I’m a symphony orchestra musician, but I don’t have an electronics workbench yet. I hope I will have one soon. Can’t wait to start setting things on fire. :bullshit: :-BROKE
Btw this forum is amazing.
(http://a.bimg.dk/node-images/454/16/800x600-u/16454081-node-image-upload-img_6611.jpg)
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Well this is my lab. I’m a symphony orchestra musician, but I don’t have an electronics workbench yet. I hope I will have one soon. Can’t wait to start setting things on fire. :bullshit: :-BROKE
Btw this forum is amazing.
(http://a.bimg.dk/node-images/454/16/800x600-u/16454081-node-image-upload-img_6611.jpg)
Plenty of room for some boat anchors. If anyone asks you can just say it's your instruments.
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That's Cute.
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Well this is my lab. I’m a symphony orchestra musician, but I don’t have an electronics workbench yet. I hope I will have one soon. Can’t wait to start setting things on fire. :bullshit: :-BROKE
Btw this forum is amazing.
(http://a.bimg.dk/node-images/454/16/800x600-u/16454081-node-image-upload-img_6611.jpg)
My vote for the best workbench so far :-+
Which musician is you ?
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Which musician is you ?
In an electronics forum? Conductor, surely!
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Which musician is you ?
In an electronics forum? Conductor, surely!
Boooom! ;D
Nah I’m not actually on this picture, but I’m usually in the second to front desk, at the conductors 1-o-clock
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- a partner that cleans up after you, naaaaaaah never heard of that.
Nah. They're not foolish. They don't want to get blamed because you can't find where the part/tool was tidied away to.
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- a partner that cleans up after you, naaaaaaah never heard of that.
Nah. They're not foolish. They don't want to get blamed because you can't find where the part/tool was tidied away to.
SWMBO knows better to touch the tools in the office. There are house tools, work tools in my company van and then the tools in my office, which are off limits and locked up. No using my expensive tweezers to pull splinters out of fingers.
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The evolution of the bench.
Pix 1: 7 years ago when I first moved to present location.
Pix 2: 5 years ago
Pix 3: 10 minutes ago :-+
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So you discovered the EEVBlog Forum (and acquired TEA) 4.5 years ago? :)
McBryce.
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Pix 2: 5 years ago
Not bad but also not fair, what was on the covered shelves 5 years ago?
BTW, what was the SWMBO comments evolution?
In 2022 you need a new room. :-+
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So you discovered the EEVBlog Forum (and acquired TEA) 4.5 years ago? :)
McBryce.
Yes, and my addiction gets worse by the day. :-DD
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Pix 2: 5 years ago
Not bad but also not fair, what was on the covered shelves 5 years ago?
BTW, what was the SWMBO comments evolution?
In 2022 you need a new room. :-+
There was some equipment in there but not a lot. Sorry, I don't have a pix of the doors open during that time.
There is no SWMBO so no worries. :-//
By next month I may need a new room. :-DD
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Pix 2: 5 years ago
Not bad but also not fair, what was on the covered shelves 5 years ago?
BTW, what was the SWMBO comments evolution?
In 2022 you need a new room. :-+
There was some equipment in there but not a lot. Sorry, I don't have a pix of the doors open during that time.
There is no SWMBO so no worries. :-//
By next month I may need a new room. :-DD
No SWMBO is a mixed blessing. Unmoderated acquisition can be dangerous. (But I like to live on the edge. >:D )
Swap meet at the vintage radio museum on Saturday. ;D ;D
-Pat
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So you discovered the EEVBlog Forum (and acquired TEA) 4.5 years ago? :)
McBryce.
You don't acquire TEA. TEA acquires you.
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So you discovered the EEVBlog Forum (and acquired TEA) 4.5 years ago? :)
McBryce.
You don't acquire TEA. TEA acquires you.
Is that in the same vein of "Pizza will send out for you."
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So you discovered the EEVBlog Forum (and acquired TEA) 4.5 years ago? :)
McBryce.
You don't acquire TEA. TEA acquires you.
Exactly. I must now acquire your excellent quip for my post footer. ;D
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Exactly. I must now acquire your excellent quip for my post footer. ;D
I am Mr. Scram and I approve of this message.
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I'm not ashamed...have fun seeing what stuff is lying around.
Love the SCAG !!
Tiger Cat ?
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I'm not ashamed...have fun seeing what stuff is lying around.
Love the SCAG !!
Tiger Cat ?
Yup :D
My land eats residential lawn mowers. I've put as many hours on it in five summers as it would see in just two weeks of commercial use. It's a tank. Yeah, it wasn't cheap but it will last much longer.
I had a Toro Z-Cutter before that. The engine literally exploded with me sitting on the mower. Shrapnel everywhere. I was lucky it flew out the side of the crankcase and not forwards into the gas tank.
(http://blog.scagoemparts.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Scag-Tiger-Cat.jpg)
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element14 is running a bench photo contest. The prizes look kinda lame, but they have some interesting categories:
• Where’s my Cat? (messiest bench)
• Tony Stark’s Dream Bench (state of the art bench)
• Fire Hazard Award (Worst cable management)
• Pepped to the Post Award (Best coffee mug)
• Totally Screwed Award (Worst organisation of screws, nuts and bolts)
• Bat Cave Award (Award for wide range of tools)
• Mom Would Be Proud (Neatest bench)
• Man Cave Bench (Best use of personal space for a bench)
• Jury Rigged Award (Most improvised or makeshift repair or bench)
• Time Machine Award (Best piece of Retro Tech on display)
I'm pretty sure there are several strong contenders for all of those here!
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The prizes are not motivating me. If there was a Keysight logo on one I might consider it :)
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The prizes are not motivating me. If there was a Keysight logo on one I might consider it :)
The only thing vaguely interesting is the Milwaukee bit set and I can get that from Home Depot. And I bet I can even get Mrs. GreyWoolfe to buy it for me.
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Sounds like you already won, GreyWoolfe.
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The prizes are not motivating me. If there was a Keysight logo on one I might consider it :)
The only thing vaguely interesting is the Milwaukee bit set and I can get that from Home Depot. And I bet I can even get Mrs. GreyWoolfe to buy it for me.
You're a very lucky man. :-+
Now about your current signature... I don't care what anyone thinks of me. Except SWMBO and dogs. I want her and dogs to like me.
Fixed it for you. ;D
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Now about your current signature... I don't care what anyone thinks of me. Except SWMBO and dogs. I want her and dogs to like me.
Fixed it for you. ;D
Nah. The original was fine. Dogs are more dependable and forgiving.
(Hopefully SWMBO doesn’t read this :-\ )
I find it hard not to like someone who truly likes dogs.
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I think the real trick is to get cats to like you; if that's even possible.
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I think the real trick is to get cats to like you; if that's even possible.
It's not that difficult...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4svGviQOhQQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4svGviQOhQQ)
-Pat
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It depends on the dog or cat. Most that I've met in my lifetime have been amicable or down right clingy. Occasionally, though, you'll run into ones that have a bad attitude — just like people.
Cats do seem to like test equipment from the photos I've seen in this thread and elsewhere on the forum. I imagine the old boat anchors must be especially appealing with all the heat they generate.
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I think the real trick is to get cats to like you; if that's even possible.
Be warm.
Provide food.
Provide cuddles.
Endure scratches.
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The prizes are not motivating me. If there was a Keysight logo on one I might consider it :)
The only thing vaguely interesting is the Milwaukee bit set and I can get that from Home Depot. And I bet I can even get Mrs. GreyWoolfe to buy it for me.
You're a very lucky man. :-+
Now about your current signature... I don't care what anyone thinks of me. Except SWMBO and dogs. I want her and dogs to like me.
Fixed it for you. ;D
Oh, she does and she even loves me, not sure why but I will take it. You're right, I am a lucky man. I don't even have to show a demonstrable need, just a perceived need and she be like, 'Just buy it already." :-DD
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I think the real trick is to get cats to like you; if that's even possible.
Be warm.
Provide food.
Provide cuddles.
Endure scratches.
And know your place.
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I think the real trick is to get cats to like you; if that's even possible.
Be warm.
Provide food.
Provide cuddles.
Endure scratches.
And know your place.
Which seems to be as a heated, upholstered scratching post with a built-in food dispenser.
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I think the real trick is to get cats to like you; if that's even possible.
Be warm.
Provide food.
Provide cuddles.
Endure scratches.
And know your place.
Which seems to be as a heated, upholstered scratching post with a built-in food dispenser.
And, as one of mine insists, I need to stand by the front door and let him out even though he'll come back in through the cat flap on the other side of the house.
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And, as one of mine insists, I need to stand by the front door and let him out even though he'll come back in through the cat flap on the other side of the house.
Ok. A heated, upholstered scratching post with a built-in food dispenser that buttles.
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element14 is running a bench photo contest. The prizes look kinda lame, but they have some interesting categories:
• Where’s my Cat? (messiest bench)
• Tony Stark’s Dream Bench (state of the art bench)
• Fire Hazard Award (Worst cable management)
• Pepped to the Post Award (Best coffee mug)
• Totally Screwed Award (Worst organisation of screws, nuts and bolts)
• Bat Cave Award (Award for wide range of tools)
• Mom Would Be Proud (Neatest bench)
• Man Cave Bench (Best use of personal space for a bench)
• Jury Rigged Award (Most improvised or makeshift repair or bench)
• Time Machine Award (Best piece of Retro Tech on display)
I'm pretty sure there are several strong contenders for all of those here!
I joined up and posted my bench.
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My little work area is in the corner of the living room. Why? Well, because I'm generous enough to let my brother-in-law live in our basement. Hence, my wife is "generous" enough to let me have a work space in the living room. LOL Must keep the wife happy.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1823/28241565647_3a079d031f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K2BpxD)
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LOL Must keep the wife happy.
No wonder it's so tidy ;D
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LOL Must keep the wife happy.
No wonder it's so tidy ;D
That is so true. :)
Plus, I just got finished repairing that Fluke 5200A and I always try and clean up after a major project.
I should have taken the picture before the clean up.
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Plus, I just got finished repairing that Fluke 5200A and I always try and clean up after a major project.
What was wrong with yours ?
Have you been watching Defpom trying to repair his on YT ?
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Plus, I just got finished repairing that Fluke 5200A and I always try and clean up after a major project.
What was wrong with yours ?
Have you been watching Defpom trying to repair his on YT ?
Well, the major problem was due to poor packing when I bought if off the auction site. The unit arrived with the inner covers bent which let the boards inside move around which caused two of the connectors on the main board to break.
I was able to fix one of the connectors but the other one was beyond repair. Since I have no plans to use the remote board and did not come with one, I removed that connector and used it to replace the badly damaged one.
After that, the unit basically worked but I went through the troubleshooting procedure for each board and found one bad cap and 2 bad transistors. I think one was on the oscillator board and the other was on the ac/dc converter board.
Oh, I almost forgot. When I first powered it up, two tantalum caps blew up on the Reference Assembly board. It was the two on the 15V rails. Replaced them with new caps and have not had a problem with the 15V rails since.
Anyway, it all works great now. Did most of the calibration procedures but I don't have all the equipment needed to complete the cal. Mainly the differential meter and the quad meter.
I did see some of Defpom's videos but his problems were totally different. I still enjoyed watching them though.
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@4thDoctorWhoFan
Nice set of instruments!
Is it an EICO 324 signal generator that is shy under the bench? Seen from the back.
Mine still works from the late 60s, assembled from a kit :)
Cheers
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@4thDoctorWhoFan
Nice set of instruments!
Is it an EICO 324 signal generator that is shy under the bench? Seen from the back.
Mine still works from the late 60s, assembled from a kit :)
Cheers
Very close. :)
It's an EICO 147A Signal Tracer. I'm sure they look very similar from the back. Amazing that you picked up on it being an EICO.
Below the EICO is a PACO B-12 regulated power supply.
It's awesome that you actually built it from a kit and still have it. NOS kits are now VERY expensive.
Does it still work?
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Perfectly!
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In the basement, I've got a separate workshop for the loud / dirty /chemical stuff:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421822;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421828;image)
The whole calibration equipment is located in another room in the basement, at naturally constant 20..22°C the whole year.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421834;image)
The time-nuts instruments: The 5335A displays its internal OCXO compared to the GPSDO, Trimble Thunderbolt.
About 1.2E-9 deviation @ 10sec Gate Time, even after at least 1 year of continuous operation of the OCXO.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421840;image)
The Efratom FRS-C Rb standard is fed as the 10MHz reference to the rear of the hp5370B, and the GPSDO to the input, so comparing both frequencies directly at about 10s Gate Time. That's about 1E-11 deviation.
This uncertainty of the Rb clock has to be determined by collecting data over a longer period of time, and creating the Allan Distribution Statistics, as the jitter of GPS, and of the 5370B (30ps typ.) are larger than 1E-10 at a small Gate Time.
From this chart, measured and created by TimeLab (from ke5fx), you can see, that at 0.1sec Gate Time, the jitter is in the 1E-9 range, so over 1000 sec of averaging is necessary to access the 1E-11 area. 1sec Gate Time needs at least 100sec averaging, and 10sec Gate Time is close enough to give below 1E-11 uncertainty.
The TimeLab contains other measurement modes to determine frequency deviations directly, or to use the Time Interval mode for 1pps outputs of the standards to be compared.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=425569;image)
Then here are the volt-nuts instruments :
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421846;image)
The DIY boxes consist of a Reference Divider (as 752A), 2 LTZ1000 references with 7 => 10V amplifier and a decade divider (as 720A), 5 further LTZ1000 references, 5 VHP202Z 10kOhm references, and a constant current source. Stability Level for the DC units is about 1ppm, for AC down below 10ppm.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=421852;image)
How many years dollars did that take to get to that point? My ab went from a horrible radio shack soldering iron and some broken parts with two pairs of sire strippers. Now it fills 1/4 of the room with scope, Hakko soldering station, DMM's tones of modules from china for checking parts and a good assortment of parts rPi Arduino and RF stuff. I also have everything to make PCB's, less the laser copier. Still trying to find a cheap used one that doesn't take up too much space. I have all kinds of antennas 3 hams a real SDR scanners, and big VHF dipole antenna that's going to be cut/tuned to 2meters as well as tape measure antennas and some custom built yagi's for two meter and 470Cm.. The parts collection was the hardest to get as I had no idea what to buy and digikey is not your friend when you are just tryin to browse. I still have load of really cool radio transceiver chips that have 6/8 pins in 3X3mm packages. I'm trying to get break out boards for or make my own by scraping away or using masking tape and HCl/H2O2 to etch. What's interesting is HCl won't dissolve copper but if you add iron to the solution, the Cu will take the irons place etching the copper off. Thank you electronegativity! They looked much bigger in the picture. Best so far is getting four of six pins to solder to. Hard to find normal sized parts let alone dips.
My best toy is the CTV magnifier. Has hidef flat screen that sits over a table that moves around. It can optically zoon to where you can see the writing on the smallest of surface mount parts. Surface mount is impossible without it. you can adjust contrast color or do black and white for counting pins. You can see the inside of a insulin syringe and if it's harp or not. Also good for painting nails under it.
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The time-nuts instruments:
Love the cal equipment. Very nice setup.
Is that a Fluke 5442A calibrator? I would love to have one of those. They are still priced a little out of my budget.
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I forgot to mention it was Dave videos that totally resparked my interest in this hobby.
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I've relocated my electronics lab from the shed to the basement. This used to be my office and is now lab/office combined. The shed was too hot in summer and to cold in winter and the office was seriously underused anyway. The big and dirty tools are still in the shed.
There's a bench for small mechanical & chemical stuff, a sort of desk area and the main attraction the EE workbench.
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Novell Netware box, that brings back memories.
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I think its 3.12. Up until 2012 I used to maintain a small legacy Novell Network that we could noit get rid of ::).
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@David77
What is the blueish box on the left of you first photo?
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Wow, Netware 3.12 in 2012. I put in a corporate Netware 4.0 network in for my company in about '95 or '96. A CNE doesn't demand the respect that it used to.
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@David77
What is the blueish box on the left of you first photo?
My guess would be a circuit board etching tank.
-Pat
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@David77
What is the blueish box on the left of you first photo?
My guess would be a circuit board etching tank.
-Pat
Makes sense, thanks.
I get mine done outside (BAC) all the time.
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That's what it is. It is not cost effective for me as a hobbyist to send out for single boards, so I etch them myself. It is quite handy, from layout to finished board in under one hour.
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Novell Netware box, that brings back memories.
Yeah, tell me about it. I did my share of sitting in front of Netware servers feeding them floppy after floppy. Oh, and the hard drive surface scans. Oof, those took forever.
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Nice rack o' equipment.
I know that wall thingy is probably built well but it still makes me shudder what with those nice units there. :phew:
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Cool. It's like a Murphy bed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy_bed) for test equipment. You could do a whole wall with two or more rows of them.
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My father-in-law had an arrangement like that in his living room as a pull down table and the top hook came out and poured burning hot curry in his lap :palm:
Just looking at it scares me.
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I like it. Gives me some ideas. :-+
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I like it. Gives me some ideas. :-+
It needs palm trees that fold down out of the way... ;)
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FAB
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Was in the garage this weekend, looking to fix a UPS, and on the shelf there was this mess, from a can of Positiv20 that is probably 30 years old, when I first started to etch boards, using a mercury vapour lamp without the outer glass (yes, had drawbacks, but as a point UV source excellent, plus the ozone, and it made a dandy Eprom eraser as well), which had decided to rust through at the liquid level, and literally came apart into 2 pieces. Also was contemplating hitting it with some "Gentle Persuasion", but decided against it, reserving that for the 2 scanners that decided that flaming tantalum was a good thing.
Going to be bye to 2 HP scanners, but the old Canon will stay, despite being beige, and as the last drivers for it are for ME and XP, it works well with Linux as well, unlike the newer ones which are supported up to, but not including Win10, so are very cheap to get used.
UPS debating, do I try a battery in it, or just turn it to scrap, as I have a few around doing no use, and I have run out of batteries.
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My lab. Two things of note:
1. The AMScope on the articulating arm is about the most useful thing in the lab.
2. The Keyboard on the computer is an original IBM Model M from a long gone server. It's dated 01-18-1990, so it's older than a lot of the people on this message board.
@kkessler, I'm thinking of picking an AMScope up and am very tempted by the articulating arm versus the beast that is the boom arm. Would you still go with it today?
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@kkessler, I'm thinking of picking an AMScope up and am very tempted by the articulating arm versus the beast that is the boom arm. Would you still go with it today?
I'm still very happy with it. If you have the right place to clamp it, it is much more convenient than the desk standing arm. It's also very solid, and I never felt that it was going to come loose and fall into my lap.
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@kkessler, I'm thinking of picking an AMScope up and am very tempted by the articulating arm versus the beast that is the boom arm. Would you still go with it today?
I'm still very happy with it. If you have the right place to clamp it, it is much more convenient than the desk standing arm. It's also very solid, and I never felt that it was going to come loose and fall into my lap.
I was interested in the articulating arm as well, but was too afraid it wouldn't be solid enough based on what little info I could get on them at the time.
Turns out it was the right choice in the end for space reasons (makes me move it of the bench). Otherwise 3 swing arms would have been a disaster (oscilloscope & monitor).
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Just squeezed in a few more pieces of gear on my secret hide-away micro-bench. I think the shelf is at its maximum capacity; I'm afraid to place anything else on it. I think I might be done with this one?
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This is very neat and organised.
Any way to re-position all the probes, test leads and jumpers so you can add shelving upward and regain a bit more bench space though?
May not be an issue if you only work with small size items.
In my case I ended up with the binocular on a close-by bench at 90deg and share the soldering/rework station between the two. All the probes and stuff hangs between the two.
The main bench ended up with three layers of instruments on the wall prioritized by how often I use them.
Nice setup overall given that your say there is little space available.
Cheers.
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I second the relocation of all the probes and add in a shelf or two. :-+
As per probe management, I use nylon pencil holder bags meant for 3 ring binders. I get them cheap out of dollar stores during back-to-school periods. Different colors for different probes makes it very easy to ID them IME. For windows, I prefer plastic over mesh as you won't lose all the tiny bits, such as the color rings or ground bits for passive oscilloscope probes, pogo pins for SMD probes, ....
(https://i.imgur.com/rqrxm51.jpg)
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This is very neat and organised.
Any way to re-position all the probes, test leads and jumpers so you can add shelving upward and regain a bit more bench space though?
May not be an issue if you only work with small size items.
In my case I ended up with the binocular on a close-by bench at 90deg and share the soldering/rework station between the two. All the probes and stuff hangs between the two.
The main bench ended up with three layers of instruments on the wall prioritized by how often I use them.
Nice setup overall given that your say there is little space available.
Cheers.
Thanks. Yeah, I do have most of the materials to install another shelf. But, it's probably going to need to wait a while. The wife may get suspicious. :)
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I second the relocation of all the probes and add in a shelf or two. :-+
As per probe management, I use nylon pencil holder bags meant for 3 ring binders. I get them cheap out of dollar stores during back-to-school periods. Different colors for different probes makes it very easy to ID them IME. For windows, I prefer plastic over mesh as you won't lose all the tiny bits, such as the color rings or ground bits for passive oscilloscope probes, pogo pins for SMD probes, ....
(https://i.imgur.com/rqrxm51.jpg)
Dang that's a great idea - I'm off to the $$$ store tomorrow. :-+
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I second the "dang that's a great idea" sentiment. :-+
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I second the relocation of all the probes and add in a shelf or two. :-+
As per probe management, I use nylon pencil holder bags meant for 3 ring binders. I get them cheap out of dollar stores during back-to-school periods. Different colors for different probes makes it very easy to ID them IME. For windows, I prefer plastic over mesh as you won't lose all the tiny bits, such as the color rings or ground bits for passive oscilloscope probes, pogo pins for SMD probes, ....
(https://i.imgur.com/rqrxm51.jpg)
I use Chinese take away containers. See through lids and I use a label maker to mark them.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=495134;image)
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I don't eat enough Chinese food to collect enough containers (it'd take me years). They're really handy though (great for left-overs). :-+
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I use those plastic containers that lunch meat comes in for a lot of stuff. They're not big enough for scope probes though. I also like peanut butter jars. The store brand doesn't have any logo molded in the lid and they come in a variety of colors. You can see some here on each top shelf.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/desklab-lighting-tips/?action=dlattach;attach=338611;image)
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I don't eat enough Chinese food to collect enough containers (it'd take me years). They're really handy though (great for left-overs). :-+
I assume you can buy them without the food in them. Try a local wholesaler that specialises in the food industry.
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I don't eat enough Chinese food to collect enough containers (it'd take me years). They're really handy though (great for left-overs). :-+
I assume you can buy them without the food in them. Try a local wholesaler that specialises in the food industry.
Or maybe go to the local purveyor of oriental cuisine and slip them a few bucks for some new ones...
-Pat
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Or maybe go to the local purveyor of oriental cuisine and slip them a few bucks for some new ones...
-Pat
True, I neglected to mention that option. It's probably more suitable for obtaining a smaller number of units.
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Hello
This is my small but nice bench.
I havent got a big bunch of gear..but its enough for me:)
You are seeing:
TTI EL183 power supply
TTI 1.3Ghz Counter
Thalheimer isolating mains transformer
HP436A Power Meter
China HotAir
Manson power supply
Rohde&Schwarz CMU200
Voltcraft oscilloscope
Rohde&Schwarz TSMU
20A Power Supply for Radios
Blanko PSU
Weller WD1000 with WP80
Nice grounded an soft place for the ESD-Cat
Not in picture:
Hsnd tools
A Rohde&Schwarz NAS in parts...which im trying to calibrate....but i havent got the Service manual...maybee someone can help? :-//
Along that i have a small collection of RF Adapters and test leads
Currently im searching for an new oscilloscope(no siglent and rigol;)
and an good spectrum analyzer like a FSEA30 or so...but this one isnt easy to get in Europe..especially not as a broken one....in the US they go for about 300$ but shipping and tax is expensive.In general it isnt always easy as a student..but its going on;)
Regards
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Looks good.
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I need a bigger workbench.
(https://i.imgur.com/WZnMvUL.jpg)
For a long time I've been wanting to build a whole new computer desk, something L shaped that takes up 2 walls of the room, it will then double as electronic workbench. The problem with my current setup is any time I'm doing microcontroller stuff or whatever I have to dismantle everything just to bring it to the PC to program it. Iti's a pain in the butt. My biggest goal is to condition and finish my garage so it can be a wood working shop, which I will then be able to build my desk in, as well as organizer drawers for components etc. Had to build a shed first so I can clear the garage. That's almost done. Basically one project leading to the next, and once I get to the end I'll finally be able to be better setup.
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I need a bigger workbench.
(https://i.imgur.com/WZnMvUL.jpg)
For a long time I've been wanting to build a whole new computer desk, something L shaped that takes up 2 walls of the room, it will then double as electronic workbench. The problem with my current setup is any time I'm doing microcontroller stuff or whatever I have to dismantle everything just to bring it to the PC to program it. Iti's a pain in the butt. My biggest goal is to condition and finish my garage so it can be a wood working shop, which I will then be able to build my desk in, as well as organizer drawers for components etc. Had to build a shed first so I can clear the garage. That's almost done. Basically one project leading to the next, and once I get to the end I'll finally be able to be better setup.
Sooo…
your first going to build a shed to put some things in,,,
so you can then second build a garage to put some other things in,,,
so you can have enough room to then thirdly build a desk to sit some stuff on,,,
but only once you've built a shed and then a garage to make enough room for your desk???
Too funny brother ;D
Just too damn funny!!
:-DD :-DD :-DD
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This happened to me. Fortunately the shed was burgled which made plenty of room in the shed for all the other crap I had in the cupboards. Earlier this year I had enough room for a bench finally :-DD
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This happened to me. Fortunately the shed was burgled which made plenty of room in the shed for all the other crap I had in the cupboards. Earlier this year I had enough room for a bench finally :-DD
Who'd have thought getting burgled would have came in handy? LOL ;D
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I wanted to discuss this with you all: what are the tools necessary for working with robots? i.e, robotics lab.
Do we need more tools than our electronics tools?
Robots like 4WD RC car, balance robot (2WD), probably a spider like robot, robot arm (think first step towards Skynet), and the list goes on.
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I need a bigger workbench.
(https://i.imgur.com/WZnMvUL.jpg)
For a long time I've been wanting to build a whole new computer desk, something L shaped that takes up 2 walls of the room, it will then double as electronic workbench. The problem with my current setup is any time I'm doing microcontroller stuff or whatever I have to dismantle everything just to bring it to the PC to program it. Iti's a pain in the butt. My biggest goal is to condition and finish my garage so it can be a wood working shop, which I will then be able to build my desk in, as well as organizer drawers for components etc. Had to build a shed first so I can clear the garage. That's almost done. Basically one project leading to the next, and once I get to the end I'll finally be able to be better setup.
Sooo…
your first going to build a shed to put some things in,,,
so you can then second build a garage to put some other things in,,,
so you can have enough room to then thirdly build a desk to sit some stuff on,,,
but only once you've built a shed and then a garage to make enough room for your desk???
Too funny brother ;D
Just too damn funny!!
:-DD :-DD :-DD
Pretty much. LOL. I mean, I could build the desk in my living room or something, but I don't really want all that saw dust getting everywhere in the house. Don't really want to buy a premade desk as that's what I have now, I find they have too many small compartments and odd ball shapes to them, I just want a giant L shaped table basically, so I'll just build it to fit the room perfectly, and have cable management trays at the bottom and other stuff like that. Probably lot of shelves too on top, or cabinets just mounted to the wall. Not sure yet. Basically once my garage is in a state I can work in it I will build quite a lot of stuff to help me get organized. Oddly enough I have tons of projects that are depending on me having a proper work area to work in so once that garage gets cleared, insulated, and conditioned I'll have quite a few projects in there to work on haha.
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I wanted to discuss this with you all: what are the tools necessary for working with robots? i.e, robotics lab.
Do we need more tools than our electronics tools?
Robots like 4WD RC car, balance robot (2WD), probably a spider like robot, robot arm (think first step towards Skynet), and the list goes on.
I'm kind of curious about that as well, not just tools, but parts, and places to buy them. I kinda would like to get into mechanical stuff like robots myself at some point. I imagine now days a 3D printer is useful too as lot of parts can just be 3D printed.
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I wanted to discuss this with you all: what are the tools necessary for working with robots? i.e, robotics lab.
Do we need more tools than our electronics tools?
Robots like 4WD RC car, balance robot (2WD), probably a spider like robot, robot arm (think first step towards Skynet), and the list goes on.
I'm kind of curious about that as well, not just tools, but parts, and places to buy them. I kinda would like to get into mechanical stuff like robots myself at some point. I imagine now days a 3D printer is useful too as lot of parts can just be 3D printed.
I imagine that you would need to design in Solidworks then send the files to mechanical workshops to fabricate them to you whether it is by CNC cutting or bending or similar. sadly, we don't have knowledge nor sufficient info about this. Not to mention that there are off-the-shelf parts like bearings, couplings, and so on that you don't have to design from scratch in 3d modelling.
The rest are very easy, you need Arduino with some boards. Can't get easier.
I plan on advancing in robotics from beginner to ROS which I think is "the peak of the hump" in robotics.
I think the process would be more expensive than our electronics design since PCBs are now 2$ of price!
where should we start? who is doing like dave's channel but for robotics?
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Guys, keep 'em piccies coming! :scared:
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Been on the TEA thread with the pictures, here we go again:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=538757;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=538811;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=538805;image)
And a bonus picture, the other shelves:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=539768;image)
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@capt bullshot
The test equipment exists to stiffen the shelves, otherwise it would collapse? :-+
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Calibration corner...
People, do not become a voltnut.... ^-^
(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/_BOP1762c.jpg)
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Worst cases of GAS I have seen in a long while. I like the idea of the sloping shelves that follow the roof shape though
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Love the outlets on the ceiling! They blend in so nicely that they're easily missed.
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Calibration corner...
How do the other "corners" look like?
I would love to be a voltnut, but seems expensive...
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Calibration corner...
People, do not become a voltnut.... ^-^
(https://xdevs.com/doc/xDevs.com/_BOP1762c.jpg)
Can I send you some of my multimeters to be calibrated?
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Wouldn't it be great to have TiN as your neighbor? ;D
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Wouldn't it be great to have TiN as your neighbor? ;D
Just need to move to Taiwan. :-DD
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Calibration corner...
People, do not become a voltnut.... ^-^
Can I send you some of my multimeters to be calibrated?
Depends on multimeter , lol.
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Coming along... Just added the 121gw today!
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Built a 2 x 16U rackmount chassis for the lab - mahogany w/walnut inlays. Initially fitted with drawers and placed near the bench. As required, the drawers will be replaced with remotely-controlled test equipment.
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Calibration corner...
People, do not become a voltnut.... ^-^
Can I send you some of my multimeters to be calibrated?
Depends on multimeter , lol.
Uni-T UT61E. That is my current best multimeter so it would be my transfer standard that I would check my UT61D and DT-890C against.
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TiN you are in need of a Tek Type 200
this is the cart to roll the test client and some PSU in front of the test wall ^-^
higher numbers then 200 are scope carts and not useful.
There are always two ways:
* the testgear rolls to the client
* the client rolls to the test wall.
greetings
Martin
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Built a 2 x 16U rackmount chassis for the lab - mahogany w/walnut inlays. Initially fitted with drawers and placed near the bench. As required, the drawers will be replaced with remotely-controlled test equipment.
Wow! That's a beauty. :-+
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j-h0107. Lovely work!
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My small work area in the basement of the apartment. There is another folding table behind the camera that my wife uses for fabric cutting and I use as a surface for disassembly. So far I've only taken over half of the storage shelf next to the table. Lighting isn't that great, but at least it is spacious.
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My small work area in the basement of the apartment. There is another folding table behind the camera that my wife uses for fabric cutting and I use as a surface for disassembly. So far I've only taken over half of the storage shelf next to the table. Lighting isn't that great, but at least it is spacious.
The cooling box is your chair I assume? Well that idea is good as long as the beer stays cold!
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My small work area in the basement of the apartment. There is another folding table behind the camera that my wife uses for fabric cutting and I use as a surface for disassembly. So far I've only taken over half of the storage shelf next to the table. Lighting isn't that great, but at least it is spacious.
As it's a basement, I get the washer & dryer.
But it's the toilet that makes it funny for me. :o Certainly convenient if you really need to go. :-DD
Seriously though, nice setup. You really don't require tons of gear for a nice general purpose lab IME. :) Now once you get into voltnuttery realm OTOH for example, that's a totally different matter. >:D
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My small work area in the basement of the apartment. There is another folding table behind the camera that my wife uses for fabric cutting and I use as a surface for disassembly. So far I've only taken over half of the storage shelf next to the table. Lighting isn't that great, but at least it is spacious.
The cooling box is your chair I assume? Well that idea is good as long as the beer stays cold!
It's a Milwaukee toolbox technically - has some hammers and screw drivers stored in it. I think you may be on to something though... I might need to get a second "chair."
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-13-in-Jobsite-Work-Tool-Box-MTB1400/205026948 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-13-in-Jobsite-Work-Tool-Box-MTB1400/205026948)
But it's the toilet that makes it funny for me. :o Certainly convenient if you really need to go. :-DD
Seriously though, nice setup. You really don't require tons of gear for a nice general purpose lab IME. :) Now once you get into voltnuttery realm OTOH for example, that's a totally different matter. >:D
Yeah. That is the strangest part of the whole apartment. I've never used it - there is something a little strange about sitting there in a wide open concrete room with a bunch of little hopper windows - but I guess its good for emergencies.
Have a DMM check plus on order. After that, my next standard will probably be a GPSDO for playing around with my 5370B. Then maybe I'll move on to something more precise for voltage.
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Have a DMM check plus on order. After that, my next standard will probably be a GPSDO for playing around with my 5370B. Then maybe I'll move on to something more precise for voltage.
Oh crap. You're looking to start down the rabbit hole from hell. :wtf: And unfortunately, it tends to be expensive as well. |O
So I suggest you seek addiction help similar to that of say a heroine addict before it's too late. >:D :-DD
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My small work area in the basement of the apartment. There is another folding table behind the camera that my wife uses for fabric cutting and I use as a surface for disassembly. So far I've only taken over half of the storage shelf next to the table. Lighting isn't that great, but at least it is spacious.
The cooling box is your chair I assume? Well that idea is good as long as the beer stays cold!
It's a Milwaukee toolbox technically - has some hammers and screw drivers stored in it. I think you may be on to something though... I might need to get a second "chair."
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-13-in-Jobsite-Work-Tool-Box-MTB1400/205026948 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-13-in-Jobsite-Work-Tool-Box-MTB1400/205026948)
But it's the toilet that makes it funny for me. :o Certainly convenient if you really need to go. :-DD
Seriously though, nice setup. You really don't require tons of gear for a nice general purpose lab IME. :) Now once you get into voltnuttery realm OTOH for example, that's a totally different matter. >:D
Yeah. That is the strangest part of the whole apartment. I've never used it - there is something a little strange about sitting there in a wide open concrete room with a bunch of little hopper windows - but I guess its good for emergencies.
Are you in Pittsburgh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_toilet), by chance?
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Here's some of the wiring before I cleaned it up.
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My small work area in the basement of the apartment. There is another folding table behind the camera that my wife uses for fabric cutting and I use as a surface for disassembly. So far I've only taken over half of the storage shelf next to the table. Lighting isn't that great, but at least it is spacious.
Daat toilet :D
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toilet :D
By moving the table you can have a shit and a soldering session at the same time. :-+
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Careful with the solder blims :-DD
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My small work area in the basement of the apartment. There is another folding table behind the camera that my wife uses for fabric cutting and I use as a surface for disassembly. So far I've only taken over half of the storage shelf next to the table. Lighting isn't that great, but at least it is spacious.
The cooling box is your chair I assume? Well that idea is good as long as the beer stays cold!
It's a Milwaukee toolbox technically - has some hammers and screw drivers stored in it. I think you may be on to something though... I might need to get a second "chair."
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-13-in-Jobsite-Work-Tool-Box-MTB1400/205026948 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-13-in-Jobsite-Work-Tool-Box-MTB1400/205026948)
But it's the toilet that makes it funny for me. :o Certainly convenient if you really need to go. :-DD
Seriously though, nice setup. You really don't require tons of gear for a nice general purpose lab IME. :) Now once you get into voltnuttery realm OTOH for example, that's a totally different matter. >:D
Yeah. That is the strangest part of the whole apartment. I've never used it - there is something a little strange about sitting there in a wide open concrete room with a bunch of little hopper windows - but I guess its good for emergencies.
Are you in Pittsburgh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_toilet), by chance?
I am not, but that is an interesting bit of history. I suppose it could be useful in case of tornadoes here in the midwest.
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At least your lab is prepared for shit literally going down. Few of us can claim that level of preparedness.
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toilet :D
By moving the table you can have a shit and a soldering session at the same time. :-+
It seems to work for Gregory Kovacs (from Jim W's Art and Science of Analog Design and with apologies)
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Back when I was at university studying Electrical Engineering we had a Professor who was very sociable, every weekend he would invite two or three of his students to tea at his home and his wife would bake a cake.
Well, it came to my turn. I sat there drinking his tea and eating the cake, then drinking more tea. Eventually a toilet break was needed. As I stood there I noticed that there were two rolls of toilet paper, one roll of soft and another one of the hard stuff like tracing paper that you used to see in public toilets.
The two rolls were a mystery that bugged me all afternoon and eventually my curiosity got the better of me so I asked the lady of the house about the arrangements. "Oh, that's easy" she replied, "The soft paper is for normal use and the hard paper is for William to write on if he gets a good idea whilst sitting there". :-DD
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Back when I was at university studying Electrical Engineering we had a Professor who was very sociable, every weekend he would invite two or three of his students to tea at his home and his wife would bake a cake.
Well, it came to my turn. I sat there drinking his tea and eating the cake, then drinking more tea. Eventually a toilet break was needed. As I stood there I noticed that there were two rolls of toilet paper, one roll of soft and another one of the hard stuff like tracing paper that you used to see in public toilets.
The two rolls were a mystery that bugged me all afternoon and eventually my curiosity got the better of me so I asked the lady of the house about the arrangements. "Oh, that's easy" she replied, "The soft paper is for normal use and the hard paper is for William to write on if he gets a good idea whilst sitting there". :-DD
LOL ;D
I was always told "don't hold your farts in because it'll just give you shitty ideas"....
I always thought that was just a "funny" but there may be some truth in it after all!
Who knows? :palm:
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Here's some of the wiring before I cleaned it up.
In the software world, that's referred to as "Agile"
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In the software world, that's referred to as "Agile"
My current workshop is so agile you wouldn't believe.
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As a software person that made me snigger a bit too hard :)
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Here's some of the wiring before I cleaned it up.
In the software world, that's referred to as "Agile"
My current workshop is so agile you wouldn't believe.
LOL
So truly relatable.
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
That is not running out of space the entire right wall is still virgin, you just started ;)
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
That is not running out of space the entire right wall is still virgin, you just started ;)
A few maxed out credit cards and many hours on eBay should solve that - :-DD
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That is not running out of space the entire right wall is still virgin, you just started ;)
The right wall is where I'm sticking manufacturing equipment. I'm reserving that space for a wire bonder then maybe reflow oven or plasma etch chamber ::)
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That is not running out of space the entire right wall is still virgin, you just started ;)
The right wall is where I'm sticking manufacturing equipment. I'm reserving that space for a wire bonder then maybe reflow oven or plasma etch chamber ::)
That should meltdown 1-2 credit cards, lol. :-+
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
I've gotta say that is a nice arrangement. I really wish I can do this but we have no spare room.
Anyway, what are those shelves?! I don't think I've seen similar ones here in Jordan. I just used a wooden shelf (120x40 cm) fixed directly to the wall... I have 2 of them which are kinda enough for now but I have no oscilloscope or such big devices.
I really want such shelves, but at what price you got them?
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
I've gotta say that is a nice arrangement. I really wish I can do this but we have no spare room.
Anyway, what are those shelves?! I don't think I've seen similar ones here in Jordan. I just used a wooden shelf (120x40 cm) fixed directly to the wall... I have 2 of them which are kinda enough for now but I have no oscilloscope or such big devices.
I really want such shelves, but at what price you got them?
These shelves are very common in the big box home improvement stores. They range in price from $50 to $100 USD.
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
I've gotta say that is a nice arrangement. I really wish I can do this but we have no spare room.
Anyway, what are those shelves?! I don't think I've seen similar ones here in Jordan. I just used a wooden shelf (120x40 cm) fixed directly to the wall... I have 2 of them which are kinda enough for now but I have no oscilloscope or such big devices.
I really want such shelves, but at what price you got them?
The product name for these particular shelves is "Trinity NSF 6-Tier Wire Shelving Rack". (https://www.costco.com/Trinity-NSF-6-Tier-Wire-Shelving-Rack%2c-48%22x18%22x72%22.product.100412448.html (https://www.costco.com/Trinity-NSF-6-Tier-Wire-Shelving-Rack%2c-48%22x18%22x72%22.product.100412448.html). I built it up without the casters, with the casters on the weight limit is much lower.
I don't think Costco ships internationally, but you may be able to find a local equivalent. Based on their marketing it looks like this style of shelf is may be used by restaurants, if you can't find any at a home improvement store they might be stocked in a restaurant supply store?
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Sorry for the really bad lighting, 4 huge tubes really makes the place shine.
Will have to post a link to them as forum does not like big pics.
https://imgur.com/a/YXQuzfI :)
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
I've gotta say that is a nice arrangement. I really wish I can do this but we have no spare room.
Anyway, what are those shelves?! I don't think I've seen similar ones here in Jordan. I just used a wooden shelf (120x40 cm) fixed directly to the wall... I have 2 of them which are kinda enough for now but I have no oscilloscope or such big devices.
I really want such shelves, but at what price you got them?
The product name for these particular shelves is "Trinity NSF 6-Tier Wire Shelving Rack". (https://www.costco.com/Trinity-NSF-6-Tier-Wire-Shelving-Rack%2c-48%22x18%22x72%22.product.100412448.html (https://www.costco.com/Trinity-NSF-6-Tier-Wire-Shelving-Rack%2c-48%22x18%22x72%22.product.100412448.html). I built it up without the casters, with the casters on the weight limit is much lower.
I don't think Costco ships internationally, but you may be able to find a local equivalent. Based on their marketing it looks like this style of shelf is may be used by restaurants, if you can't find any at a home improvement store they might be stocked in a restaurant supply store?
Amazon carries them, too. I got a 24 X 48 inch one from them for deeper HP gear (the brand was Sandusky, IIRC), and also have two of the 18 X 48" Costco units (what you have), and another 18 X 48" one from Amazon. I put the casters on all of them, and to my pleasant surprise, all are still holding up despite being way overloaded.
I need to get to Costco and grab more of them.
-Pat
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
I've gotta say that is a nice arrangement. I really wish I can do this but we have no spare room.
Anyway, what are those shelves?! I don't think I've seen similar ones here in Jordan. I just used a wooden shelf (120x40 cm) fixed directly to the wall... I have 2 of them which are kinda enough for now but I have no oscilloscope or such big devices.
I really want such shelves, but at what price you got them?
The product name for these particular shelves is "Trinity NSF 6-Tier Wire Shelving Rack". (https://www.costco.com/Trinity-NSF-6-Tier-Wire-Shelving-Rack%2c-48%22x18%22x72%22.product.100412448.html (https://www.costco.com/Trinity-NSF-6-Tier-Wire-Shelving-Rack%2c-48%22x18%22x72%22.product.100412448.html). I built it up without the casters, with the casters on the weight limit is much lower.
I don't think Costco ships internationally, but you may be able to find a local equivalent. Based on their marketing it looks like this style of shelf is may be used by restaurants, if you can't find any at a home improvement store they might be stocked in a restaurant supply store?
Amazon carries them, too. I got a 24 X 48 inch one from them for deeper HP gear (the brand was Sandusky, IIRC), and also have two of the 18 X 48" Costco units (what you have), and another 18 X 48" one from Amazon. I put the casters on all of them, and to my pleasant surprise, all are still holding up despite being way overloaded.
I need to get to Costco and grab more of them.
-Pat
I think international shipping would be expensive since I live in Jordan and these things are heavy.
However, my concern right now is not the shelves since I managed to use ones that are enough for now. My concern is how to store components and I have a lot of them sitting in a big travel bag in a very chaotic way.
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I ran out of space for test equipment so I bought wire shelving from Costco..
I've gotta say that is a nice arrangement. I really wish I can do this but we have no spare room.
Anyway, what are those shelves?! I don't think I've seen similar ones here in Jordan. I just used a wooden shelf (120x40 cm) fixed directly to the wall... I have 2 of them which are kinda enough for now but I have no oscilloscope or such big devices.
I really want such shelves, but at what price you got them?
Ikea (who I believe are also in Jordan) do very similar shelves called "OMAR" at a rather reasonable price: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00069768/ (https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/00069768/)
https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S69829083/ (https://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S69829083/)
McBryce.
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I wanted to ask this but I forgot: where is your personal electronics lab?
right now I am in a shared room so my lab is in there, but once I move to family house (get married), then I should have the lab outside in garage... but the garage doesn't have a ceiling!!!
what is your solution to this?
the problem is that I am living in a far area due to work (it is the company's compound), so my options of making this outside room is vague. So I thought of asking you guys since I think at least one of you had the same situation. Don't forget the price to that, please mention it!
regards!
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Similar situation here. I spent 5 years grinding down the other half and my lab is now in the living room :-DD
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Similar situation here. I spent 5 years grinding down the other half and my lab is now in the living room :-DD
Our houses are small with only one room (besides main bedroom that is), so I can use it all I want before I have kids :-DD
the problem comes afterwards... which is a nightmare I don't wanna think about. Especially that I'd like to have a small home gym with a single rack machine... I hope I find solutions to all that here.
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what is your solution to this?
Dont get married.
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what is your solution to this?
Dont get married.
That is not an option. :-DD
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what is your solution to this?
Dont get married.
That is not an option. :-DD
Then......Small house + wife + children = No lab. :-//
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Who needs a ceiling? As long as there's a roof you'll be fine.
I wanted to ask this but I forgot: where is your personal electronics lab?
right now I am in a shared room so my lab is in there, but once I move to family house (get married), then I should have the lab outside in garage... but the garage doesn't have a ceiling!!!
what is your solution to this?
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Who needs a ceiling? As long as there's a roof you'll be fine.
I wanted to ask this but I forgot: where is your personal electronics lab?
right now I am in a shared room so my lab is in there, but once I move to family house (get married), then I should have the lab outside in garage... but the garage doesn't have a ceiling!!!
what is your solution to this?
I meant a roof, sorry. No roof or anything
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New flat, new setup. I won't move for a long time, it took me quite a while to move everything :phew:
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New flat, new setup. I won't move for a long time, it took me quite a while to move everything :phew:
Looks good but is that long bottom shelf going to bow after a while? I can't tell if it's supported in the middle.
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Yes there is a support in the middle.
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The Mancave is clean and I can see the workbench for the first time in a couple of years.
It won't last long...
(https://stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/mancave1.jpg)
(https://stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/mancave2.jpg)
(https://stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/mancave3.jpg)
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Very nice Steve. Thanks for sharing. I really enjoy seeing how other people pursue the hobby.
BTW, there is evidence that your space is shared with a shop cat. Is your friend shown in the forum's thread "post a picture of a cat"?
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Do I spot a Kaypro there?
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Now my desk became a double decker.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=561154)
Top row:
* HP LaserJet Pro M1216nfh printer,
* Medicine tray,
* Oscilloscope probes
* Dell P2415Q monitor,
* Speakers connected to a Raspberry Pi (behind the monitor,)
* A second mouse for my second computer in the rack,
* Soldering iron holder,
* Banghao 858L+ hot air gun (cheapie but works,)
* Tissue box.
* There is a NeoPixel light strip glued to the bottom of this shelf.
The desk shelf is built using an IKEA Lack wall storage shelf bought in the as-is section that lacked the wall mounting hardware, and two sets of IKEA wall shelf mounts as feet.
Bottom row:
* 7-port USB 2.0 hub based on FE2.1s, built using a free evaluation board sold by LCSC (behind the stack of books,)
* GW-Instek GFG-8016G signal generator (behind the stack of books,)
* Gophert CPS-3205 bench power supply (behind the stack of books,)
* Autoelectric TL866II+ programmer (behind the stack of books,)
* 4-port USB 2.0 hub based on SL2.1L, built using a free evaluation board sold by LCSC,
* Rigol DS1054Z oscilloscope,
* Stack of debug probes: AVRISP mkII clone, J-Link v9 clone, Xilinx DLC9LP clone, Intel USB Blaster clone, genuine Atmel ICE, a hardware serial cable from my PC
* Breadboard with breadboard power supply module and a plastic tray on it
* USB 3.0 hub (behind)
* iPod base with my old iPhone 4S on it
* Atten 936 soldering station (again a cheapie,)
* Two mice for my main computer: one traditional USB wheel mouse for KiCad, one Apple Magic Mouse for general use,
* IKEA wooden drawer case holding some of my components and tools.
* Empty coffee cup
On the board to the left:
* Telephone and Caller-ID decoder
* Pen holder with a lot of pencils sticking out.
* Spot for storing my current iPhone,
* Another pen holder with some cables and my multimeter probes,
* Uni-T UT61E multimeter with USB connection on the back,
* Two pairs of spare headphones,
* A lot of junk boards next to the multimeter.
The stack of book is temporary as I am studying for an upcoming test.
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I present my humble workbench, it is a little empty, but it is only a few months since I started it, Greetings from Peru :-DMM \$\Omega\$ \$\Omega\$
today I made some changes in my favorite place... but It's small and humble yet :-DMM :-DMM :-DMM
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Looking good, luiziko014. Cool clock!
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Looking good, luiziko014. Cool clock!
Thanks... I do with arduino and max7219 driver module
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I present my humble workbench, it is a little empty, but it is only a few months since I started it, Greetings from Peru :-DMM \$\Omega\$ \$\Omega\$
today I made some changes in my favorite place... but It's small and humble yet :-DMM :-DMM :-DMM
That is an excellent basic, yet complete, setup. :-+
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Hello all, this is Mehmet, NA5B. Greetings from Washington DC Area.
Here is one of my electronics benches at home where I break things most of the time! I love spending my time here playing with test equipments! :-)
Thank you.
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Here is one of my electronics benches at home ...
One of them? Wow! Nice setup.
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Thank you. I will post the others as soon as I clean them. They are big mess now! :-)
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Welcome, Mehmet. Wowzers, I'd like to inherit your benches. :-+
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Hello all, this is Mehmet, NA5B. Greetings from Washington DC Area.
Here is one of my electronics benches at home where I break things most of the time! I love spending my time here playing with test equipments! :-)
Thank you.
I don't even know what half of those devices are supposed to be.
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From left to right: HP 8594E 2.9 GHz SA ** EIP 548A 10 Hz - 26.5 GHz Freq. Couunter ** Motorola Service Monitor 400KHz - 1GHz SA ** Anritsu MT8802A Service monitor with 3 GHz SA & SG ** R&S CMIQ 06 300 KHz - 6.4 GHz Signal Gen. all options ** R&S CMS-54 Service monitor all options with TG 1GHz ** IFR 2945A Service Monitor 1 GHz with TG ** HP 8920B Service monitor all opt. 1 GHz ** HP 8593E 22GHz SA with TG and NBW - AM, FM demod ** Top Agilent SA 3 GHz with TG ** top center Agilent Freq Counter & power meas. 20 GHz ** Top Right Agilent Sitemaster cable / antenna analyzers S113 HF and 1.3 GHZ, S332B 25MHz - 3.3 GHz with SA ** Very bottom left Techtronix THS720P scope ** Agilent 53152A Frequency counuter 10 Hz - 46 GHz & power measurement ** LeCroy WaveAce 224 Oscilloscope 200 MHz 2GS/s
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Someone introduce this guy to Shariar :)
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From left to right: ...
Among maybe half of the other stuff, I've recognized the R2600. This dinosaur appears to be pretty popular with HAMs. Some time ago I bought a broken one, repaired it and wrote a repair story. Since then I've had some five to ten people (presumably all of them were HAMs) asking various kinds of questions about my repair, though I never actively pushed that story (except from putting it onto my homepage).
Anyway, quite an impressive amount of RF stuff in your lab.
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I had a clean up today and organised many things into the new cabinet on the left.
(https://i.imgur.com/WPtGueh.jpg)
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From left to right: ...
Among maybe half of the other stuff, I've recognized the R2600. This dinosaur appears to be pretty popular with HAMs.
I am not fan of these Motorola Service Monitors. They are very bulky with very minimal functions loaded. I have three of them and two are with SA options. One has a problem and I need to work on it or I might just keep for spare parts.
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The Mancave is clean and I can see the workbench for the first time in a couple of years.
It won't last long...
WOW, pretty nice, SLJ.
How many of the radios work?
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My bench was clean ONCE. Whenn I bought all the gear and stuff and put it away. I don't think I'll ever get it clean off completely again. Too many projects.
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Clean? What does that mean? :-X
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Clean is used as a verb around here. SWMBO points to my bench and says it. Usually after it is so deep in crap I've migrated to the living room table and destroyed that as well :-DD
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Clean is used as a verb around here. SWMBO points to my bench and says it. Usually after it is so deep in crap I've migrated to the living room table and destroyed that as well :-DD
Thankfully, my bench is in my office which is NOT common space so she doesn't tell me what to do in here. She did, however, help me get things organized by buying 2 medical chart shelving units that the practice was getting rid of and now the whole office is clean at this moment. Once I add a couple of new toys to the bench I am picking up Monday night, I will post a new set of pics of the whole space.
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The Mancave is clean and I can see the workbench for the first time in a couple of years.
It won't last long...
WOW, pretty nice, SLJ.
How many of the radios work?
All the radios work except maybe one which is untouched, but it's mostly antique test equipment. I think there's only four or five radios in the photos. I use to have around 300 but they all did the same thing so I sold most of them and switched to early test equipment which I find much more interesting.
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The Mancave is clean and I can see the workbench for the first time in a couple of years.
It won't last long...
WOW, pretty nice, SLJ.
How many of the radios work?
All the radios work except maybe one which is untouched, but it's mostly antique test equipment. I think there's only four or five radios in the photos. I use to have around 300 but they all did the same thing so I sold most of them and switched to early test equipment which I find much more interesting.
Of course they all work...silly me :palm:
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I spent whole yesterday to sort out my smd stuff 8)
Now all passives also diodes and small smd transistors looks like that :phew:
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/assorted.jpg)
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/assorted1.jpg)
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So over a year has passed and it's time for a bench update. Things have improved somewhat.
October 2017:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZMQlpB9.jpg)
Same workspace now but there has been a cull and a lot of simplification, organisation and optimisation of space. I have been focusing on projects and on obtaining kit I can maintain as I fully intend to stop working ASAP. Only things that have been kept are a PL310, the lamp and the wire strippers :)
December 2018:
(https://i.imgur.com/zF6LeFV.jpg)
Top to bottom: Fluke 8010A, 8012A, TTi PL310, boxes of parts (this is all I own now, down from 100kg of crap in cupboards), HP 33120A, TTi TF930, Yaesu FT-818ND, deadpool, optimus prime, groot, vision, nick fury, TTi PL154, HP 6236B, Tek TDS210, Metcal PS-900, Fluke 87V. Hiding underneath is a Tek 475A with DM44 you can barely see (in storage until I can be bothered with it) and a Tek 2235. Cupboard still contains a 465.
Has been a good year :-DD
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So over a year has passed and it's time for a bench update. Things have improved somewhat.
October 2017:
(https://i.imgur.com/ZMQlpB9.jpg)
Same workspace now but there has been a cull and a lot of simplification, organisation and optimisation of space. I have been focusing on projects and on obtaining kit I can maintain as I fully intend to stop working ASAP. Only things that have been kept are a PL310, the lamp and the wire strippers :)
December 2018:
(https://i.imgur.com/zF6LeFV.jpg)
Top to bottom: Fluke 8010A, 8012A, TTi PL310, boxes of parts (this is all I own now, down from 100kg of crap in cupboards), HP 33120A, TTi TF930, Yaesu FT-818ND, deadpool, optimus prime, groot, vision, nick fury, TTi PL154, HP 6236B, Tek TDS210, Metcal PS-900, Fluke 87V. Hiding underneath is a Tek 475A with DM44 you can barely see (in storage until I can be bothered with it) and a Tek 2235. Cupboard still contains a 465.
Has been a good year :-DD
You missed 1 buddy... can you spot it?
that's still a hek load of gear though so you can be forgiven :)
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BM867. Bloody huge thing as well :)
Meant to say as well. My net expenditure on all this is actually £0. 90% of everything was broken and everything was funded by buying broken stuff and fixing it.
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BM867. Bloody huge thing as well :)
Meant to say as well. My net expenditure on all this is actually £0. 90% of everything was broken and everything was funded by buying broken stuff and fixing it.
Yup... that's the 1!
I'll forgive you but I don't know if your 867s will be so amicable! It may play up a little now!
That's not a bad track record for all that gear! :-+
I'm thick so have to pay full price on everything! :-DD
I keep hunting Ebay to see if there's a broken plug needing a fuse changed out or whatever going cheap as that is more my level of being able to fix things. Then I can say "I got something cheap and fixed it up"! ;D
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Usually it goes that I'm so thick I trust them when they say it's working and then find it isn't. Then I have to fix it or SWMBO will kill me which is plenty of motivation to work it out :-DD
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... as I fully intend to stop working ASAP. ... or SWMBO will kill me ...
Isn't there a large amount of contradiction and impossibility there?
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... as I fully intend to stop working ASAP. ... or SWMBO will kill me ...
Isn't there a large amount of contradiction and impossibility there?
Impossibility, contradiction and women, I have no problem with that statement :-DD
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Yes consistently inconsistent :)
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This past June I posted the evolution of my bench......
7 years ago
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/KxxsYV.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnKxxsYVj)
5 years ago
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/FngiLY.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/plFngiLYj)
This past June
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/dCGxPd.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pldCGxPdj)
How it looks today
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/EkG0qV.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poEkG0qVj)
But there's more.....much more. First clue here.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/cSQhra.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmcSQhraj)
And more...
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/m1cE3M.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pom1cE3Mj)
And here it is. I've more than doubled my bench space. 2 separate work areas. And greater accessibility to the equipment.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/ruLH0f.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poruLH0fj)
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med6753 I see the P38, but I'm unsure what the other aircraft is. Mosquito?
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med6753 I see the P38, but I'm unsure what the other aircraft is. Mosquito?
Yep, Lockheed P-38 and a de Haviland Mosquito.
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med6753, looks like you've received a reprieve from the rule that everything needs to be hideable behind the doors, if I remember your earlier posts correctly.
looks great!
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med6753, looks like you've received a reprieve from the rule that everything needs to be hideable behind the doors, if I remember your earlier posts correctly.
looks great!
I can close the doors if desired but I chose not too. But yes, earlier posts of the original bench did show them closed. There never was a "rule" nor an SWMBO that insisted that they be closed. ;D
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Since it has been several years since I posted the shop tour I di an update this past week.
Not much but it is home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCXUB41kSt4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCXUB41kSt4)
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Rearranged things a bit this weekend and added a new computing corner. Now I have a whole rack to fill with new home brew computer clones and associated peripheral equipment. A 2U 12-way A/V source selector is currently under construction.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=599191;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=599197;image)
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What is all of the homebrew/rackmount gear?
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Rearranged things a bit this weekend and added a new computing corner. Now I have a whole rack to fill with new home brew computer clones and associated peripheral equipment. A 2U 12-way A/V source selector is currently under construction.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=599197;image)
So that's the secret to fixing equipment that has problems.
A can of FLY AND INSECT KILLER on the top shelf.
It gets all the bugs out of electronics and software. :-DD
(edit: the following is serious and not joking around)
That is an awesome lab you have there. Wow.... Just Wow!
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GK: nice to see a BBC in that lot. An excellent lab computer as well. :-+
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In the next few months I sould be updating mine, I will finaly get a dedicated room to electrnics which I mostly use to restore vintage computers.
That is onre bad ass setup, rack monted computers, vintge scopes, looks like I need to hit ebay when I get my own place, only thing is all the money is going on getting the house. So one step at a time.
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an active bench is never clean...unless its to take pictures for eevblog lol
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Current evolution of my man-cave. Running out of space (like everybody :) ).
I'm in parallel setting up a metal workshop in the cellar, but I have quite tight limitations set up by my wife there.
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DL8RI, very nice! Love the high end RF gear. Is the R&S an FSU?
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WOW! Amazing layout brotha. The curve tracer is SO SEXY. I am going to save these pics and post them around my lab. Something like a goal to work toward.
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What kind of stand is that for the Wiha screwdrivers? I have mine hanging on the pegboard, but I'd probably make an exception to my "Nothing stored on the table top" rule if I had a decent stand for them.
Current evolution of my man-cave. Running out of space (like everybody :) ).
I'm in parallel setting up a metal workshop in the cellar, but I have quite tight limitations set up by my wife there.
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WOW! Amazing layout brotha. The curve tracer is SO SEXY. I am going to save these pics and post them around my lab. Something like a goal to work toward.
Concur - sweet setup! :clap:
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Thank you all. :)
A Curve-Tracer is a very, very nice addition to a Lab. Once you have one, you start to scratch your head, why you didn't get it earlier :-+
Like VNAs, it is a Swiss-army knife.
For the Questions:
Is the R&S an FSU?
It is an FSQ. I believe, the hardware is the same, but the FSQ has some additional vector-signal-analysis functionality for cellphone-stuff (never used that....).
What kind of stand is that for the Wiha screwdrivers?
It's from Wiha. Here in Germeny it comes with the screwdrivers:
https://www.reichelt.de/wiha-precision-screwdriver-set-slotted-and-phillips-wiha-260-pk6-p28800.html? (https://www.reichelt.de/wiha-precision-screwdriver-set-slotted-and-phillips-wiha-260-pk6-p28800.html?)
Originally it is designed for wall-mounting, but is also a fine stand on the desk.
Maybe ask your local dealer, if they sell it also without a screwdriver-set.
If not, and you still want one, PM me. I will see if I can get it here in Germany directly from Wiha.
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Ah, it looked like yours was double row, but maybe you just have two?
I can get this from Amazon, and probably will after Christmas. I don't much like the green color, and it's a bit cheap looking also, but it'll probably be okay.
https://www.amazon.com/Wiha-Rack-6-Electronic-Tools-26000/dp/B0195UX8DG/ (https://www.amazon.com/Wiha-Rack-6-Electronic-Tools-26000/dp/B0195UX8DG/)
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Yes, I have two sets with these stands (a little different to the green one).
I'm rather happy with them, although they're just a piece of plastic.
Only one thing is annoying: The holder holds quite firmly onto the screwdriver (which normally is good of course!). So it might happen you lift everything up instead of taking out the screwdriver.
I always thought about adding some weight (piece of brass or whatever) to them, but never came to do it.
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I keep dragging my rear getting this together, but I've finally got my new bench to the point where I can do things on it. Still a way to go regarding shelves, power, lighting, etc. All that which is currently there will be changed (soon I hope).
The latest pic first, the old bench second:
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Only one thing is annoying: The holder holds quite firmly onto the screwdriver (which normally is good of course!). So it might happen you lift everything up instead of taking out the screwdriver.
I always thought about adding some weight (piece of brass or whatever) to them, but never came to do it.
Or use this underneath:
Paste Hama 00007091 or Walimex 17368. Conrad has it. You my even find it in some supermarkets in the photography section.
It is kneadable, reusable, removable without residues. Photographers use it to hold small items in place. I use it all the time to prevent lightweight objects like scopes from being pushed back or to attach small temperature sensors to a wall, for example. The missus uses it instead of wax to attach candles. Because it does not solidify, it is easily possible to set up the candles strait even after some time.
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Ah, it looked like yours was double row, but maybe you just have two?
I can get this from Amazon, and probably will after Christmas. I don't much like the green color, and it's a bit cheap looking also, but it'll probably be okay.
https://www.amazon.com/Wiha-Rack-6-Electronic-Tools-26000/dp/B0195UX8DG/ (https://www.amazon.com/Wiha-Rack-6-Electronic-Tools-26000/dp/B0195UX8DG/)
Would a 3D printed version of this work for you or are you after the OEM rack?
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This is how I store them now, which is not that bad really.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=604390;image)
I think the green Wiha rack from Amazon will be fine. If it won't stay down when a driver is removed, I'll attach it to the pegboard or something. I might just do that anyway because I have this thing about not storing items on the table top.
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In my old lab, I had it also mounted on the wall.
Since the wall behind my desk now is just a dry-wall, I did not want to mount anything there. Therefore they are on the desk.
Hama 00007091 or Walimex 17368
Thanks, I will test it.
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My "lab" during the 35c3 setup
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I think the green Wiha rack from Amazon will be fine. If it won't stay down when a driver is removed, I'll attach it to the pegboard or something. I might just do that anyway because I have this thing about not storing items on the table top.
I am going to mod and print a few of these:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2405739 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2405739)
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I think Urs42 might be smaller than mine
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCXg6qFr/1215181102.jpg)
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Guys, how among you have a robotics home lab? what assets and tools you think is needed?
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Welp,i kinda feel a wee little bit out matched hehe.
We have a huge garage so why not right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf-mgJILQA8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf-mgJILQA8)
By the time i uploaded this i changed it setup again.(oops)
Alex.
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In reference to moving screwdriver holders above. Got mine sorted a while back with a quick design & 3D print which also keeps my precious Lindstroms from getting abused or dropped on the floor too. ** Not shown is the grotty bench full of crud under it :-[
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Love the octopus...
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Welp,i kinda feel a wee little bit out matched hehe.
We have a huge garage so why not right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf-mgJILQA8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf-mgJILQA8)
By the time i uploaded this i changed it setup again.(oops)
Alex.
Outmatched? I'm fairly sure the vast majority of the forum can only dream of your kit.
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Have a nice Silvester and Happy New Year :-+ :popcorn:
Last state from lab in this year :) (little bit blurry but you know alcohol and let's fire up as much instruments as possible :D)
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/2018.jpg)
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Temporary workplace to find out what is wrong with my friend’s RCF ART705AS subwoofer amplifier..
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You want the light - "BFX" ;D here is :-DD
Safety light, can not be overlooked
Repair of PIR sensors from the house corridor
Happy New Year
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Finally some updates on my workbench this weekend! :)
I added a top shelf at the back and also a bridge with slide rail in front to hang my Delvos.
Please excuse the craptacular photo "quality"!
Looking forward to getting my new Quick 861DE in the next week or so.
ToDo:
- parts storage, especially SMD
- add another fume extraction unit for SMD soldering - currently using fume extraction at the tip (Ersa ET7-1IP, actually an Ersa labled Bofa T1-1IP)
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Are they older model hios torque drivers hanging off the spring balances? I can’t quite make out the power supply unit.
Did you buy or build the plier / scredwider holder (wooden one, not the wera precision one)
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Have a nice Silvester and Happy New Year :-+ :popcorn:
Last state from lab in this year :) (little bit blurry but you know alcohol and let's fire up as much instruments as possible :D)
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/2018.jpg)
What is that Anritsu (if it is?) with the metric shit-ton of BNCs in the front?
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Have a nice Silvester and Happy New Year :-+ :popcorn:
Last state from lab in this year :) (little bit blurry but you know alcohol and let's fire up as much instruments as possible :D)
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/2018.jpg)
What is that Anritsu (if it is?) with the metric shit-ton of BNCs in the front?
Looks like a Anritsu MG3681A
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Are they older model hios torque drivers hanging off the spring balances? I can’t quite make out the power supply unit.
Did you buy or build the plier / screwdriver holder (wooden one, not the wera precision one)
The torque drivers are DLV 7540-MKE with DLC 4510-JE supply and DLV 7331-CKG with DLC 1213-GG supply. Both with the 1/4'' hex bit receptacle instead of those 4 mm half-round / shank ones, because I already have a gazillion fitting bits. :) Bought both of these used on eBay a while ago, for 80 € and 55 € delivered. They seem well used and needed some cleaning, but other than that they work like a charm. No worn out bushings or bearings.
At around the same time I could score a lot of five NOS Hahn & Kolb Autostat 7212-01 balancers - basically for the price of one.
The tool holder for the pliers and screw drivers is made from routed plywood parts (6mm). They are around 10 € from some model making shop, but if you happen to have a CNC router or want to DIY cut some by hand with a scroll saw, just drop me a PM and I will send you a DXF.
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Finally got around to tidying the lab to the point where it's not too embarrassing to take photos... Main workshop is still off-limits (project for spring!), but I did include a snap of the corner where I do smaller physical work and soldering.
Dave
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You have a nice amount of space there, my shelving system wants to move in.
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You have a nice amount of space there, my shelving system wants to move in.
I was thinking the same thing. Most Brits have to live in a space smaller than that ;)
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You got your ducks in a row! Well done! ;)
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Finally got around to tidying the lab to the point where it's not too embarrassing to take photos... Main workshop is still off-limits (project for spring!), but I did include a snap of the corner where I do smaller physical work and soldering.
Dave
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=646421;image)
Are those white, pink and blue boxes, ice cream containers?
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I see the word baby on them, so I’m hoping they’re baby wipe containers
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Finally got around to tidying the lab to the point where it's not too embarrassing to take photos... Main workshop is still off-limits (project for spring!), but I did include a snap of the corner where I do smaller physical work and soldering.
Dave
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=646421;image)
Are those white, pink and blue boxes, ice cream containers?
I wish! - nope, they are "baby wipe" containers... and very old. Kids are through school(s) and moved out several years now.
I have to confess I've not even looked in most of them in quite some time - another cleanup project!
Dave
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You're giving me space-envy too. Or more accurately, 'high ratio of space to stuff' envy.
Conflicted with a pet hate - chipboard shelving with not enough support, thus sagging and possibly giving way at any moment.
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Have a nice Silvester and Happy New Year :-+ :popcorn:
Last state from lab in this year :) (little bit blurry but you know alcohol and let's fire up as much instruments as possible :D)
(http://www.eternal.sk/hamphoto/2018.jpg)
What is that Anritsu (if it is?) with the metric shit-ton of BNCs in the front?
Looks like a Anritsu MG3681A
Exactly 8)
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Finally got around to tidying the lab to the point where it's not too embarrassing to take photos... Main workshop is still off-limits (project for spring!), but I did include a snap of the corner where I do smaller physical work and soldering.
Dave
Space can only be replaced by more space. :D Nice large benches :)
There will be a project, that will take it to the limit:
Currently working on a R&S test-receiver. Takes up most of my "dirt-work-electronic" bench and makes it actually look quite tiny :D
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Space can only be replaced by more space. :D Nice large benches :)
When I was working I was known for my "1 sq ft" rule. That is, that no matter how big your bench is, you will fill all of it with test gear, spare parts, small tools, books, jigs, meters, probes, and all sorts of other miscellaneous crap. That is except for one square foot directly in front of your chair. Because that's where the magic happens. That 1 sq ft space is all that's left for the project circuit to occupy and its the only space that will ever be empty from time to time.
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Space can only be replaced by more space. :D Nice large benches :)
When I was working I was known for my "1 sq ft" rule. That is, that no matter how big your bench is, you will fill all of it with test gear, spare parts, small tools, books, jigs, meters, probes, and all sorts of other miscellaneous crap. That is except for one square foot directly in front of your chair. Because that's where the magic happens. That 1 sq ft space is all that's left for the project circuit to occupy and its the only space that will ever be empty from time to time.
I find this is often accompanied by the Law of Edgeward Creep, where your clean working area slowly fills from the back towards the front, and you inevitably find yourself working within a few inches of the front edge, where the chances of pinging critical components off into the under-the-bench abyss of no return is at its peak.
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Space can only be replaced by more space. :D Nice large benches :)
When I was working I was known for my "1 sq ft" rule. That is, that no matter how big your bench is, you will fill all of it with test gear, spare parts, small tools, books, jigs, meters, probes, and all sorts of other miscellaneous crap. That is except for one square foot directly in front of your chair. Because that's where the magic happens. That 1 sq ft space is all that's left for the project circuit to occupy and its the only space that will ever be empty from time to time.
I find this is often accompanied by the Law of Edgeward Creep, where your clean working area slowly fills from the back towards the front, and you inevitably find yourself working within a few inches of the front edge, where the chances of pinging critical components off into the under-the-bench abyss of no return is at its peak.
Personally I'm working on pushing the working area to 2 sq ft. . . .and I'm almost there ;D
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Hehe :D
Yeah, the "bench physics". To avoid this, as the ESD-mat proved to be extremely useless, I got such a thick, heavy rubber mat with holes.
Quite pricey, but I love it. Acts like a dam to all the junk accumulating behind there and also keeps cut-offs, de-soldered parts and so on from scratching cases of equipment.
It gets cleaned out every few weeks, when enough crap is in there... will happen soon, I guess. Nice side-effect: Less of the stuff on the floor as it's kept in there.
I can only recommend anybody to get one of these, ESD-safe, practically indestructible, one bought for your whole life.
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Hehe :D
Yeah, the "bench physics". To avoid this, as the ESD-mat proved to be extremely useless, I got such a thick, heavy rubber mat with holes.
Quite pricey, but I love it. Acts like a dam to all the junk accumulating behind there and also keeps cut-offs, de-soldered parts and so on from scratching cases of equipment.
It gets cleaned out every few weeks, when enough crap is in there... will happen soon, I guess. Nice side-effect: Less of the stuff on the floor as it's kept in there.
I can only recommend anybody to get one of these, ESD-safe, practically indestructible, one bought for your whole life.
That looks handy! Do you know make/type or how do they call it?
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I would just fill it with screws and parts from 3 different projects and still not have a place to keep the screws from the device I am working on today!
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That looks handy! Do you know make/type or how do they call it?
They are called "Assembly grid mat" in English.
Here, you find one: http://www.bjz.de/artikel/show/2005 (http://www.bjz.de/artikel/show/2005)
And yes, the 3 kg are not a joke, this thing is quite heavy.
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That looks handy! Do you know make/type or how do they call it?
They are called "Assembly grid mat" in English.
Here, you find one: http://www.bjz.de/artikel/show/2005 (http://www.bjz.de/artikel/show/2005)
And yes, the 3 kg are not a joke, this thing is quite heavy.
Thanks! They won’t sell direct to end users but I will find it somewhere!
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Ah, sorry.
Bürklin has it, and since you're EU-based, shipping should not be a total killer.
https://www.buerklin.com/en/conductive-bench-mat/p/07l306 (https://www.buerklin.com/en/conductive-bench-mat/p/07l306)
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This used to be our dining room :)
(https://i.imgur.com/5EcgiDr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3SjSGHT.jpg)
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Looks much more useful, now. :-DD :-+
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A shot of my little lab for playing with the electronics side of things. The rest of the gear is spread throughout the house. 3x 3D printers in the living room, one in the bedroom, oh can’t forget the 40W CO2 laser cutter occupying the kitchen table. I’m a lucky man to have a spouse that’s loves all of it and doesn’t mind our house full of toys.
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Where do they get girls like that? :o
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Where do they get girls like that? :o
I was going to ask if she had a Sister ;)
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I’m a lucky man to have a spouse that’s loves all of it and doesn’t mind our house full of toys.
You are a lucky man. Mrs GreyWoolfe doesn't share your spouses love, that is for sure. |O At least I am completely self contained in my own Woolfe Den, including the job that pays the mortgage. >:D The only thing that knots her knickers is my 285 foot 80 meter loop antenna that crosses over the front of the property. When she starts complaining, I tell her that I will sell all my stuff, leave the club and get out of the hobby. That drops the noise floor to acceptable levels. I don't even have to bring up the---"It's better than going to the bars!" argument. S1 is much nicer than S9 on the meter. :-DD
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A shot of my little lab for playing with the electronics side of things. The rest of the gear is spread throughout the house. 3x 3D printers in the living room, one in the bedroom, oh can’t forget the 40W CO2 laser cutter occupying the kitchen table. I’m a lucky man to have a spouse that’s loves all of it and doesn’t mind our house full of toys.
Damn dude, she's a keeper! :-+
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I’m a lucky man to have a spouse that’s loves all of it and doesn’t mind our house full of toys.
You are a lucky man. Mrs GreyWoolfe doesn't share your spouses love, that is for sure. |O At least I am completely self contained in my own Woolfe Den, including the job that pays the mortgage. >:D The only thing that knots her knickers is my 285 foot 80 meter loop antenna that crosses over the front of the property. When she starts complaining, I tell her that I will sell all my stuff, leave the club and get out of the hobby. That drops the noise floor to acceptable levels. I don't even have to bring up the---"It's better than going to the bars!" argument. S1 is much nicer than S9 on the meter. :-DD
There is always the other great argument...at least you know where I’m at. Lol
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Damn dude, she's a keeper! :-+
A keeper and then some! I don’t know how I hit the lottery this time. Maybe karma giving me a break after putting up with my first wife/monster.
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I’m a lucky man to have a spouse that’s loves all of it and doesn’t mind our house full of toys.
You are a lucky man. Mrs GreyWoolfe doesn't share your spouses love, that is for sure. |O At least I am completely self contained in my own Woolfe Den, including the job that pays the mortgage. >:D The only thing that knots her knickers is my 285 foot 80 meter loop antenna that crosses over the front of the property. When she starts complaining, I tell her that I will sell all my stuff, leave the club and get out of the hobby. That drops the noise floor to acceptable levels. I don't even have to bring up the---"It's better than going to the bars!" argument. S1 is much nicer than S9 on the meter. :-DD
There is always the other great argument...at least you know where I’m at. Lol
Sure, at the risk of this:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=535830;image)
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Damn dude, she's a keeper! :-+
A keeper and then some! I don’t know how I hit the lottery this time. Maybe karma giving me a break after putting up with my first wife/monster.
Good karma comes around. My SO puts up with the hobby. I don't ask questions about purchases for sewing and she doesn't ask questions about my lab!
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To the guys with the understanding spouse/GF/live-in/whatever. Don't consider your good fortune permanent, especially if you are in your 20's or early 30's. If it hasn't already the subject of children will come up. And once the reality happens, whether planned or "oops" all bets are off. Your stuff will become the enemy to be hidden away in a back room, the basement, the garage, or even the trash. "Oh but we agreed that we never want to have children". If you've fallen for that BS you've been hoodwinked. It is a rare bird indeed that NEVER wants to be a mother. As they get older that biological clock starts banging louder and louder. And if they can't have one of their own they'll want to adopt strays off the street.
Perhaps some will think I'm being too cynical or harsh. Maybe so. But I've LIVED it and I've SEEN it first hand. And I have the scars to prove it. So just be aware. Life has a habit of taking interesting turns.
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I’m a lucky man to have a spouse that’s loves all of it and doesn’t mind our house full of toys.
You are a lucky man. Mrs GreyWoolfe doesn't share your spouses love, that is for sure. |O At least I am completely self contained in my own Woolfe Den, including the job that pays the mortgage. >:D The only thing that knots her knickers is my 285 foot 80 meter loop antenna that crosses over the front of the property. When she starts complaining, I tell her that I will sell all my stuff, leave the club and get out of the hobby. That drops the noise floor to acceptable levels. I don't even have to bring up the---"It's better than going to the bars!" argument. S1 is much nicer than S9 on the meter. :-DD
There is always the other great argument...at least you know where I’m at. Lol
Sure, at the risk of this:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=535830;image)
And this too.....
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/96O8Wy.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pm96O8Wyj)
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"What this old thing? Had it for YEARS!" :-DD >:D :-DMM
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I don't really have much of a desk right now. Well at least I have a keyboard, what I'm looking for right now is more flame-proof 18650 storage.
This also fits into the "post a picture of a cat" or post a picture of your lap category.
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Nice cat, multimeter and calculator, that's a good start.
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To the guys with the understanding spouse/GF/live-in/whatever. Don't consider your good fortune permanent, especially if you are in your 20's or early 30's. If it hasn't already the subject of children will come up. And once the reality happens, whether planned or "oops" all bets are off. Your stuff will become the enemy to be hidden away in a back room, the basement, the garage, or even the trash. "Oh but we agreed that we never want to have children". If you've fallen for that BS you've been hoodwinked. It is a rare bird indeed that NEVER wants to be a mother. As they get older that biological clock starts banging louder and louder. And if they can't have one of their own they'll want to adopt strays off the street.
Perhaps some will think I'm being too cynical or harsh. Maybe so. But I've LIVED it and I've SEEN it first hand. And I have the scars to prove it. So just be aware. Life has a habit of taking interesting turns.
That’s where I do get to truly count myself lucky since we have 3 kids ranging from first grade to nearly grown. But your not wrong in far too many cases having children is the death of personal hobbies. However both of us were always of the mindset that having those hobbies that are a big part of both of us is also keeping us sane while at the same time allows for consistently learning new things and pushing ourselves which ultimately leads back to being a better parent and having a much happier home. Especially compared to those that have to repress the part of themselves that resents the fact they had to give up everything. We had the good fortune/sense whatever ya want to call it to have kids a bit older than some which I do credit for the mindful approach to maintaining balance that has worked out so well in our lives.
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I’m a lucky man to have a spouse that’s loves all of it and doesn’t mind our house full of toys.
You are a lucky man. Mrs GreyWoolfe doesn't share your spouses love, that is for sure. |O At least I am completely self contained in my own Woolfe Den, including the job that pays the mortgage. >:D The only thing that knots her knickers is my 285 foot 80 meter loop antenna that crosses over the front of the property. When she starts complaining, I tell her that I will sell all my stuff, leave the club and get out of the hobby. That drops the noise floor to acceptable levels. I don't even have to bring up the---"It's better than going to the bars!" argument. S1 is much nicer than S9 on the meter. :-DD
There is always the other great argument...at least you know where I’m at. Lol
Sure, at the risk of this:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=535830;image)
And this too.....
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/96O8Wy.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pm96O8Wyj)
I guess there are advantages to being singal. I will even be getting my own place soon so I won't have the parents nagging at me all the time. (Just becomes television static in the end)
My advice get a place of your own that no one can clame as theirs, to be fair I came out of a relationship over six months ago that had a lot of problems.
Then you can decorate your sitting room with all the vintage computer & test equipment your little nerdy heart desiers. That way anyone you meet has to acept being an adopted parent to over 40+ vintage computers & a range of vintage test gear
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I’m a lucky man to have a spouse that’s loves all of it and doesn’t mind our house full of toys.
You are a lucky man. Mrs GreyWoolfe doesn't share your spouses love, that is for sure. |O At least I am completely self contained in my own Woolfe Den, including the job that pays the mortgage. >:D The only thing that knots her knickers is my 285 foot 80 meter loop antenna that crosses over the front of the property. When she starts complaining, I tell her that I will sell all my stuff, leave the club and get out of the hobby. That drops the noise floor to acceptable levels. I don't even have to bring up the---"It's better than going to the bars!" argument. S1 is much nicer than S9 on the meter. :-DD
There is always the other great argument...at least you know where I’m at. Lol
Sure, at the risk of this:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/?action=dlattach;attach=535830;image)
And this too.....
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/96O8Wy.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pm96O8Wyj)
I guess there are advantages to being singal. I will even be getting my own place soon so I won't have the parents nagging at me all the time. (Just becomes television static in the end)
My advice get a place of your own that no one can clame as theirs, to be fair I came out of a relationship over six months ago that had a lot of problems.
Then you can decorate your sitting room with all the vintage computer & test equipment your little nerdy heart desiers. That way anyone you meet has to acept being an adopted parent to over 40+ vintage computers & a range of vintage test gear
I’m assuming/guessing based on your comment about nagging parents that you are likely on the younger end of the age spectrum so I’ll offer some advise I wish I had learned at a much earlier age than I did. The key to happiness isn’t staying single because someone your dating will not want the things you like around or occupying your time. Instead the key is finding someone who loves your passion for it all and encourages spending the time on it and having the stuff you love around the house. Sure it’s not always the easiest thing to find that partner but it’s worth the search because settling for whatever reason ranging from because they are smoking hot all the way to being lonely on a partner that doesn’t encourage and welcome the things you love will just lead to resentment and usually a really tough road.
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This reminds me of a conversation I had about thirty years ago. First date, and I'm sitting in a bar with a pretty brunette as we gradually got to know each other. I mentioned that I was a radio ham at which point she said "cool, my father's callsign is &^(&$!, what's yours"?
Anyway, it helps if your partner can take interest in some part of your hobby, mine likes the collection of QSL cards from all over the world and, in return, I show an interest in her penfriends who are just as scattered across the globe.
Now can we get back to pictures of cool workbenches please because I need some ideas.
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Now can we get back to pictures of cool workbenches please because I need some ideas.
One thing that’s part of mine that I have found infinitely helpful if you have a 3D printer are these Hive interlocking storage drawers. Sure there are more time/cost effective solutions but these are able to be configured in any height/width you want as well as non-rectangular shapes, wall hung etc. If you look at the right of mine where I don’t have cells top and bottom that’s to clear an adjustable spotlight up to and on bottom they wrap over one of my lab power supplies giving me the most storage area for the space. Plus anything made yourself adds cool points. Just search for The Hive on Thingiverse. Mine are all ABS & HIPS and they came out very strong.
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I finally managed to consolidate my workbenches and tools into a single workshop for all my product prototyping!
Here is a quick panorama shot.
Left to right:
PC area for 2D and 3D CAD construction, layout of brochures, other multimedia, email and general office work.
Tools: heavily upgraded Mac Pro 2008 (cheese grater), two wide gamut monitors (Dell 2408WFP, Eizo S2231W), KRK Rokit 5 speakers, Lehmannaudio Rhinelander preamp / headphone amp, SpaceControl 3D mouse, Waldmann desk lamp, Oltronix B60-1T power supply, Vision Engineering Mantis Elite with x4 and x15 optics.
(a bunch of studio gear that needs to be sold off)
Paulimot F307-V milling machine (https://www.paulimot.de/fraesmaschinen/f307-v)
(a bunch of boxes with "things" - mostly various materials for model making)
Old Festo shop vacuum cleaner
Paulimot SC4 lathe (https://www.paulimot.de/maschinen/drehmaschinen/mit-vario-antrieb/187/sondermodell-drehmaschine-sieg-sc4-mit-230-volt-motor-1000-watt-125-mm-futter-510-mm-spitzenweite)
Electronic workbench area
Tools: Lots of test cables, Oltronix B60-1T and B703DT power supplies, Fluke 8060A, Rigol DG812 (new since last week), Fluke 8050A, Rigol DS1054Z, Waldmann desk lamp, Monitor (still needs to be connected via KVM), SolderPeak SP-1010DR, Quick 861DW (new since three weeks), Ersa iCon, Ersa ET7-1IP, Densei Delvo DLV7331-CKG and DLV7540-MKE, Vision Engineering TS4, Ultimaker Original Plus
Could not be happier. :)
Still needs some work in terms of de-cluttering, but it is pretty usable now. Before, I had all this scattered in a not all too logical manner...
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I recently had some leftover plywood from another project so I decided to revamp my workshop. I tend to move a lot so everything knocks down to flatpack. The next thing I need to sort out is cable storage, I have two racks just inside the door, but they're not really working for me. This is just the electronics side of things, in the garage is metalwork and woodwork areas.
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I finally managed to consolidate my workbenches and tools into a single workshop for all my product prototyping!
Here is a quick panorama shot.
Left to right:
PC area for 2D and 3D CAD construction, layout of brochures, other multimedia, email and general office work.
Tools: heavily upgraded Mac Pro 2008 (cheese grater), two wide gamut monitors (Dell 2408WFP, Eizo S2231W), KRK Rokit 5 speakers, Lehmannaudio Rhinelander preamp / headphone amp, SpaceControl 3D mouse, Waldmann desk lamp, Oltronix B60-1T power supply, Vision Engineering Mantis Elite with x4 and x15 optics.
(a bunch of studio gear that needs to be sold off)
Paulimot F307-V milling machine (https://www.paulimot.de/fraesmaschinen/f307-v)
(a bunch of boxes with "things" - mostly various materials for model making)
Old Festo shop vacuum cleaner
Paulimot SC4 lathe (https://www.paulimot.de/maschinen/drehmaschinen/mit-vario-antrieb/187/sondermodell-drehmaschine-sieg-sc4-mit-230-volt-motor-1000-watt-125-mm-futter-510-mm-spitzenweite)
Electronic workbench area
Tools: Lots of test cables, Oltronix B60-1T and B703DT power supplies, Fluke 8060A, Rigol DG812 (new since last week), Fluke 8050A, Rigol DS1054Z, Waldmann desk lamp, Monitor (still needs to be connected via KVM), SolderPeak SP-1010DR, Quick 861DW (new since three weeks), Ersa iCon, Ersa ET7-1IP, Densei Delvo DLV7331-CKG and DLV7540-MKE, Vision Engineering TS4, Ultimaker Original Plus
Could not be happier. :)
Still needs some work in terms of de-cluttering, but it is pretty usable now. Before, I had all this scattered in a not all too logical manner...
Does the heavier equipment cause issues with abrasive dust or possibly the neighbours?
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Does the heavier equipment cause issues with abrasive dust or possibly the neighbours?
No, it does not. These are not sanding machines, they produce chips. I am mainly cutting soft materials like aluminium and brass without coolant. These cut pretty well and do not need excessive cutting forces. Also both the lathe and mill are very smooth running machines that are belt driven or more or less direct drive with electronic VFDs and they are decoupled from the floor via thick shredded rubber mats. Beneath my flat is the basement with storage rooms and my neighbor above asured me multiple times, that she does not hear anything when the machines are running. :D
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Figured I'd snap some pics now that most of the desks are somewhat organized.
Software desk
(https://files.zzattack.org/img/s96/benchlab/1_thumb.jpg) (https://files.zzattack.org/img/s96/benchlab/1.jpg)
Debug desk
(https://files.zzattack.org/img/s96/benchlab/2_thumb.jpg) (https://files.zzattack.org/img/s96/benchlab/2.jpg)
Assembly desk
(https://files.zzattack.org/img/s96/benchlab/3_thumb.jpg) (https://files.zzattack.org/img/s96/benchlab/3.jpg)
Storage drawers + boat anchor machines
(https://files.zzattack.org/img/s96/benchlab/4_thumb.jpg) (https://files.zzattack.org/img/s96/benchlab/4.jpg)
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Very nice, indeed. :-+ :-+
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@zzattack
Very very nice setup indeed.
Is that a re-balling and rework optical machine in the back (lusting, drooling)?
Now, get some work done there and have a mess... so I can feel better when I look at my dirty bench >:D
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Is that a re-balling and rework optical machine in the back (lusting, drooling)?
Yes, it's a Chinese (WDS-620). I've seen tons of seemingly identical machines, the most known one seems to be branded as ZM-r6200. The touch screen is a WinCE box which runs some Chinese PLC software called 'MCGS'. I tried to get in there but it's reasonably well protected and functions quite decently so in the end I left it as is.
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Has anyone tried these? Think they'd be good for keeping bench clear when some equipment isn't needed. https://www.fleximounts.com/shop/garage-storage-solution/garage-wall-shelf-rack/motorized-garage-wall-shelves-handyjack/ (https://www.fleximounts.com/shop/garage-storage-solution/garage-wall-shelf-rack/motorized-garage-wall-shelves-handyjack/)
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Has anyone tried these? Think they'd be good for keeping bench clear when some equipment isn't needed. https://www.fleximounts.com/shop/garage-storage-solution/garage-wall-shelf-rack/motorized-garage-wall-shelves-handyjack/ (https://www.fleximounts.com/shop/garage-storage-solution/garage-wall-shelf-rack/motorized-garage-wall-shelves-handyjack/)
All the cabling would need over-length to allow them to move, spagetti nightmare. I also think that they'd end up in one position and never be moved again.
McBryce.
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Has anyone tried these? Think they'd be good for keeping bench clear when some equipment isn't needed. https://www.fleximounts.com/shop/garage-storage-solution/garage-wall-shelf-rack/motorized-garage-wall-shelves-handyjack/ (https://www.fleximounts.com/shop/garage-storage-solution/garage-wall-shelf-rack/motorized-garage-wall-shelves-handyjack/)
All the cabling would need over-length to allow them to move, spagetti nightmare. I also think that they'd end up in one position and never be moved again.
McBryce.
Plus it is ridiculously expensive for the amount of actual storage space (and fugly as hell). Seems like an over-engineered solution to a problem that does not actually exist in real life. xD
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I have kids and need to be able to both use things and keep them from using them when I am not around. Cabling isn't much of an issue, just keep the power strip on the racks, it's 1 cable. I was trying to see if anyone has used it since it'd suit my assembly bench well. I'd recommend nobody buy it if they don't want it though.
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"DO NOT TAKE WITHOUT PERMISSION" :popcorn: ;D
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I have kids and need to be able to both use things and keep them from using them when I am not around. Cabling isn't much of an issue, just keep the power strip on the racks, it's 1 cable. I was trying to see if anyone has used it since it'd suit my assembly bench well. I'd recommend nobody buy it if they don't want it though.
If it's only power cables then fine, but most of my gear is connected to LXI / GPIB / RS232 networks, plus there's an 10MHz reference being fed to many devices too. Still, $400 dollars to keep things out of reach of children? They'll defeat your $400 by standing on a chair (or finding the remote) and it will have all been for nothing. Just lock the door like I do.
McBryce.
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If it's only power cables then fine, but most of my gear is connected to LXI / GPIB / RS232 networks, plus there's an 10MHz reference being fed to many devices too. Still, $400 dollars to keep things out of reach of children? They'll defeat your $400 by standing on a chair (or finding the remote) and it will have all been for nothing. Just lock the door like I do.
McBryce.
I imagine not everyone having a spare room to lock.
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My kids leave it all alone and always have done even though my bench is in the living room. If you involve them and educate them well then curiosity is quenched and they will leave it alone and respect your space.
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My kids leave it all alone and always have done even though my bench is in the living room. If you involve them and educate them well then curiosity is quenched and they will leave it alone and respect your space.
I'm not sure my 2 year old(as of yesterday) has respect for anything. The 4 year old likes to draw on anything and everything with chalk. The "curiosity" has not been quenched by involvement or education. She just wants everything to be pretty.
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Just a quick off-topic reply to the above post. A mixture of toothpaste and WD-40 will remove kids drawings made with chalk, pencil or crayons. Unfortunately felt tip pens still need solvents to remove.
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I'm not sure my 2 year old(as of yesterday) has respect for anything. The 4 year old likes to draw on anything and everything with chalk. The "curiosity" has not been quenched by involvement or education. She just wants everything to be pretty.
A 2 year old can be hard to teach, but a 4 year old should be able to understand what's what.
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I'm not sure my 2 year old(as of yesterday) has respect for anything. The 4 year old likes to draw on anything and everything with chalk. The "curiosity" has not been quenched by involvement or education. She just wants everything to be pretty.
A 2 year old can be hard to teach, but a 4 year old should be able to understand what's what.
She understands and when I'm home she doesn't touch anything. Even when I'm not home she won't touch the more expensive stuff where I debug/design hardware/software neither will the 2 year old. Assembly area though :-// I come home from robotics meetings and something/everything has chalk on it. I mostly keep equipment in cases but calibrators, power supplies, microscopes, soldering equipment, bench meters, toolboxes etc... I have no cases for.
Anyway, everyone is so negative about the idea I'm gonna buy 4 and donate 3 to the Goodwill.
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My kids leave it all alone and always have done even though my bench is in the living room. If you involve them and educate them well then curiosity is quenched and they will leave it alone and respect your space.
I'm not sure my 2 year old(as of yesterday) has respect for anything. The 4 year old likes to draw on anything and everything with chalk. The "curiosity" has not been quenched by involvement or education. She just wants everything to be pretty.
Luckily, the 10 YO granddaughter that lives with us knows not to touch anything in Poppi's office. She will come and ask for tape or paper or anything like that, she won't take it herself even though she knows where everything is.
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My kids leave it all alone and always have done even though my bench is in the living room. If you involve them and educate them well then curiosity is quenched and they will leave it alone and respect your space.
I'm not sure my 2 year old(as of yesterday) has respect for anything. The 4 year old likes to draw on anything and everything with chalk. The "curiosity" has not been quenched by involvement or education. She just wants everything to be pretty.
Luckily, the 10 YO granddaughter that lives with us knows not to touch anything in Poppi's office. She will come and ask for tape or paper or anything like that, she won't take it herself even though she knows where everything is.
I think she is old enough to start learning the craft, if she want to. It will help her schoolwork too.
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My tiny work space.
There is actually just enough space behind the shelves to stand up, so you can connect, disconnect cables from the back of the equipment (first version of the shelves didn't have it, so after a long period of cursing every time I want to connect/disconnect something I tore it down and moved the shelves forward a bit).
The microscope can swing up/down or be pulled out if needed (this originally was mounted to table directly, but caused problems with larger object under it, so it's now floating above instead).
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Very compact. You may not have a lot of width, but extra depth for space behind the bench and shelves is very cool.
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My tiny work space.
Diamond plate?
Anyway, tiny work spaces force you to be organized. I like them.
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My tiny work space.
You need more cables ;D
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I want to get a bigger table but its comfy for now
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I want to get a bigger table but its comfy for now
Chewy?
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I want to get a bigger table but its comfy for now
Chewy?
Absolutely, thats the only correct answer when it comes to cookies
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I want to get a bigger table but its comfy for now
Chewy?
Absolutely, thats the only correct answer when it comes to cookies
Could someone please explain why, as they grow stale, the chewy ones get hard and the hard ones get chewy? :-// One of life's enduring mysteries...
And I'll be somewhat contradictory here - for store bought like the Chips Ahoy, crunchy is the only way to go. When they're home baked, the chewy center surrounded by the narrow crunchy ring at the edge is the best.
-Pat
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Here's what mine looks like at the moment.
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Really nice and neat! I am looking at some similar bench systems from Benchpro for when I move.
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Here's what mine looks like at the moment.
Looks too organized... I bet no work gets done there :-DD
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I want to get a bigger table but its comfy for now
Chewy?
Absolutely, thats the only correct answer when it comes to cookies
Could someone please explain why, as they grow stale, the chewy ones get hard and the hard ones get chewy? :-// One of life's enduring mysteries...
And I'll be somewhat contradictory here - for store bought like the Chips Ahoy, crunchy is the only way to go. When they're home baked, the chewy center surrounded by the narrow crunchy ring at the edge is the best.
-Pat
That should be a feature advertised... "Gets crunchier!" on chewy, and "Gets Chewier!" on originals.
And yeah, if someone could invent packageable "Crunchewy" variety, it'll be a hit!
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When I was laid off my last job in 2012.
I made arrangements to continue doing the work as a contractor.
Created a business, converted my garage into a room.
(with insulated garage door / code work around)
Bought all the test equipment, parts, manuals etc.
This bench is used for my work, hobby's, projects and a occasional TV repair. :)
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When I was laid off my last job in 2012.
I made arrangements to continue doing the work as a contractor.
Created a business, converted my garage into a room.
(with insulated garage door / code work around)
Bought all the test equipment, parts, manuals etc.
This bench is used for my work, hobby's, projects and a occasional TV repair. :)
Is that a 5522A? How much did that set you back?
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Haha, you're right... it's a brand new setup, so no work has yet been done :)
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CB:
Whats that saying about a clean desk....?
windsmerf:
The whole kit-n-caboodle cost me 50K.
Not shown is my Tek WFM8300 and other equpt.
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windsmerf:
The whole kit-n-caboodle cost me 50K.
Not shown is my Tek WFM8300 and other equpt.
Very nice! It's no hobby bench, that's for sure!
What kind of consulting are you doing that require use of such equipment, if you don't mind me asking?
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A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
-- Mark Twain
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The lab: Mostly old equipment that had to be repaired before it went into service. I've used modern equipment, but the older stuff is more fun. For instance, I find using a precision current shunt and scaling math on my 3456 is more satisfying than reading current directly on a newer meter.
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Nice set up ya got going on. :-+
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Trash-80 monitor, I'm so jealous.
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The lab: Mostly old equipment that had to be repaired before it went into service. I've used modern equipment, but the older stuff is more fun. For instance, I find using a precision current shunt and scaling math on my 3456 is more satisfying than reading current directly on a newer meter.
I hope that top shelf of your bench is very robust...that's a not insignificant amount of weight! Nice setup!
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The lab: Mostly old equipment that had to be repaired before it went into service. I've used modern equipment, but the older stuff is more fun. For instance, I find using a precision current shunt and scaling math on my 3456 is more satisfying than reading current directly on a newer meter.
Thank you for rescuing them from the landfills!
Speaking of current shunts, which ones do you use?
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The shelf did acquire a bit of sag, so I added some extra support. You can barely see it between the HP and Wavetek.
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Trash-80 monitor, I'm so jealous.
Yea, I brought my 1977 model 1 back to life (both video sync generators out) and added a hard drive emulator. The extra monitor was for parts
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The lab: Mostly old equipment that had to be repaired before it went into service. I've used modern equipment, but the older stuff is more fun. For instance, I find using a precision current shunt and scaling math on my 3456 is more satisfying than reading current directly on a newer meter.
Thank you for rescuing them from the landfills!
Speaking of current shunts, which ones do you use?
I usually try to stick with 1 mV/1 A unless small current then 1 V/1 A.
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The lab: Mostly old equipment that had to be repaired before it went into service. I've used modern equipment, but the older stuff is more fun. For instance, I find using a precision current shunt and scaling math on my 3456 is more satisfying than reading current directly on a newer meter.
Great set-up! If you posted to this forum using that TRS-80 rather than a modern computer then you'd really be having fun! :D
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Hello,
I have a question from my boss regarding Workbench and electronics Lab:
Is there some official norm or recommendation about the ergonomics of an electronics Workbench/Lab ?
I am not aware about that, but may be someone here knows better.
Thanks in advance
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Hello,
I have a question from my boss regarding Workbench and electronics Lab:
Is there some official norm or recommendation about the ergonomics of an electronics Workbench/Lab ?
I am not aware about that, but may be someone here knows better.
Thanks in advance
About the only thing I could suggest is to put your most used bits of gear at eye level. I have my digital scope and bench meters at my eye level and that feels the most comfortable. I have stuff above and below that but I like the eye level thing. Ergonomics are going to differ from person to person. Some like a tall bench and work standing up. I am quite overweight and have a bad knee. Walking is not an issue but I can't stand in one place long before my knee starts to ache. If you are going to use shelves, make sure you have adequate table top space for large projects. I have 12 inch shelves and a 33 inch bench top, giving me 21 inches of space. That may be too much for some, but I have long arms so it is easy for me to reach the equipment shelves. Trial and error to see what will work for you as well as going through this thread to see what people are doing.
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Hello,
I have a question from my boss regarding Workbench and electronics Lab:
Is there some official norm or recommendation about the ergonomics of an electronics Workbench/Lab ?
I am not aware about that, but may be someone here knows better.
Thanks in advance
As some guide, a tabletop is ~30" (750mm) for use when seated whereas a sink bench is ~36" (900mm) for use when standing.
Both are general heights that have been in use for decades and for shorter or taller ppls small adjustments need be made for the comfort of the user.
For a professional service center where the technician might be standing for most of the day a benchtop height might be 1m+ so that objects are closer and they don't have to stoop/hunch to work.
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Check your local laws and regulations. There's a fair chance there is a local OSHA like agency and you'll have to deal with prescribed workplace requirements. Note that what is the standard in one country may very well be against the rules in another. Assumptions can be costly.
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As some guide, a tabletop is ~30" (750mm) for use when seated whereas a sink bench is ~36" (900mm) for use when standing.
Both are general heights that have been in use for decades and for shorter or taller ppls small adjustments need be made for the comfort of the user.
My bench is 33". I am 6" tall but short legged and long bodied, 33" is perfect for me.
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As some guide, a tabletop is ~30" (750mm) for use when seated whereas a sink bench is ~36" (900mm) for use when standing.
Both are general heights that have been in use for decades and for shorter or taller ppls small adjustments need be made for the comfort of the user.
My bench is 33". I am 6" tall but short legged and long bodied, 33" is perfect for me.
Are you a Lilliputian? :-DD Sorry, couldn't resist.
I've been pondering the question of bench depth. I work on boat anchors like HP spectrum analyzers, so I want as much depth as I can get when I move into my house and am ready to buy some stuff.
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I've been pondering the question of bench depth. I work on boat anchors like HP spectrum analyzers, so I want as much depth as I can get when I move into my house and am ready to buy some stuff.
Right, when you got things like an hp 8904A you need depth!
(https://www.bmisurplus.com/uploads/product_images/10705.jpg)
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I've been pondering the question of bench depth. I work on boat anchors like HP spectrum analyzers, so I want as much depth as I can get when I move into my house and am ready to buy some stuff.
Read my post from here. (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg828957/#msg828957)
I have rack sized gear sitting at eye level on my shelves in front of me (though the photo doesn't show the full extent). As the workbench is detached from the shelving it can practically be anywhere from 2' to 3' deep so that is a ton of space when extended out, large gear is no problem.
To avoid a wiring mess on my workbench, my current setup is two tables inside the span. One small square table has soldering gear at the moment (draws to be added), this I leave stationary. The main workbench is largely clutter free but for some tool boxes that are easily moved.
Possible to start out with any old bench/table with legs until you get something better. For complete flexibility on the benchtop material I suggest at least 1" hard edged solid wooden laminate countertop, that way you can make removable or hinged back and sides (avoids screws and tools rolling away). This style of countertop looks great, solid but inexpensive. I would purchase it unfinished, route a soft edge in the work side for comfort, then apply several coats of urethane for a long lasting and waterproof finish.
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I recently set up a couple of new workbenches, so I thought this could be of interest/inspiration to others.
These aren't my main electronics R&D bench, nor my day-to-day desk, but they're more for a second staff member doing embedded development, and for running ongoing testing.
They are a couple of 1800x900mm office desks that came from the old Altium office (thanks Dave!) and I built some custom shelving from 1" square aluminium tube. They are 900mm high & 345mm deep.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=774288;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=774294;image)
Thankfully my HP8904A won't be sitting on these benches. :phew:
I plan to build similar shelving for the R&D & assembly benches in the coming months (also ex Altium desks). They're a disaster at the moment, so no pics!!! :scared:
I am also in the process of making some very solid 2000x900mm benches using 4545 Aluminium profile and 30mm thick pine tops for my 3D printers and benchtop PnP.
See the PDF for a rough sketch. I've built the first one except for shelving. I plan to build the second back-to-back with it so they share the main uprights.
BTW, yes I have a commercial office/warehouse space - about 160m2 over two floors. Quite big for a staff of 1 full time and 1 casual!
Electronics & computer stuff happens upstairs, storage & workshop (lathe/mill/CnC/laser cutter/etc) downstairs.
I should mention that I didn't really think the sizing of the new shelving through as well as I should have. It works OK, but if I did it again I'd adjust the heights (and maybe widths) to better suit standard test gear with less wasted space.
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oooooooooooooooo my precious..... Imsai 8080 8)
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oooooooooooooooo my precious..... Imsai 8080 8)
That is the latest addition. Not a real IMSAI, but a simulator with full replica front panel. Kit comes from a local Aussie https://thehighnibble.com/imsai8080/
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Still very nice, can't see a price on that site?
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Still very nice, can't see a price on that site?
To move the discussion to a more appropriate place, I've just made a post in the Vintage Computing section about it.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/vintage-computing/imsai-8080-replica/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/vintage-computing/imsai-8080-replica/)
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My bench is 33". I am 6" tall but short legged and long bodied, 33" is perfect for me.
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Are you a Lilliputian? :-DD Sorry, couldn't resist.
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:-DD :-DD |O |O Obviously a PEBKAC error.
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To add to the debate, my workbench and ham radio desks are all 73 cm from floor level as I use conventional seating rather than a stool. Why 73cm? I once had a really comfortable desk for code sending and before I left it behind (relocating to another continent) I measured the height. Nine times out of ten this also works out for workshop duties but I have been known to either stand up or reduce the height of my chair depending on need.
I am 6 ft tall (1.82m)
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I didn't know about this thread at first, and posted in the wrong place. :(
Pictures and a write-up of my bench are here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rebuilding-my-lab-bench/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rebuilding-my-lab-bench/)
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I'm thinking, by some of your statements in the other thread, your next stop is the TEA thread. No need to worry, the rabbit hole has bee properly greased to help you slide down it easier. :-DD
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I'm thinking, by some of your statements in the other thread, your next stop is the TEA thread. No need to worry, the rabbit hole has bee properly greased to help you slide down it easier. :-DD
I'm pretty sure the TEA thread was the first place I started posting when I joined this forum! :-DD
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That's jumping in with both feet. :-DD
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Last week I got a Bertech 2059T-18x30BKT ESD High Temperature Rubber Mat to replace my old jaycar mat (it got destroyed while desoldering SMD components), my bench looks so much better now! :-+
(https://i.imgur.com/paa7kdDh.jpg)
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Last week I got a Bertech 2059T-18x30BKT ESD High Temperature Rubber Mat to replace my old jaycar mat (it got destroyed while desoldering SMD components), my bench looks so much better now! :-+
Looks nice! :-+ Is that an official EEVBlog Multimeter I spy hanging there??? Man, I gotta get me one of those... :-DMM
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Last week I got a Bertech 2059T-18x30BKT ESD High Temperature Rubber Mat to replace my old jaycar mat (it got destroyed while desoldering SMD components), my bench looks so much better now! :-+
Looks nice! :-+ Is that an official EEVBlog Multimeter I spy hanging there??? Man, I gotta get me one of those... :-DMM
Cheers. Yep it's the BM235 from Dave - great meter too!
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Time to shove some cork on it :) My ancient tacked onto shack bench was in need of a makeover for electronic and other uses. Also to stop yet another component or screw falling into the cracks between boards :palm:
Why Cork over an ESD option is partly for multi use and better looks but also it is much cheaper. I did grab a 90x60 dissipative mat to go with the remodel and the other bits to wire it in place. The edge is a standard 6mm carpet edge screwed into the bench with flathead screws, it will stop any rolling bits from coming off and also makes for a hard wearing edge.
Still need to cut the rear bits and glue it down tomorrow when the Temperature is a bit warmer.
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Gunna seal the cork bean ?
You should do just in case you spill your coffee ! :P
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Gunna seal the cork bean ?
You should do just in case you spill your coffee ! :P
Err Beer too :popcorn: Yep couple of coats of sealant before it gets into serious use.
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Gunna seal the cork bean ?
You should do just in case you spill your coffee ! :P
Err Beer too :popcorn: Yep couple of coats of sealant before it gets into serious use.
Beer, coffee and sealant fumes ? :scared:
We'll see you again in a couple of days. :-DD
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Bean Flying on Glue fumes 2.4x0.7m and may as well take a pic because it will never be clear again :palm:
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So I bought a new house. I now have two man caves, both in various stage of evolution.
The gaming room/office/electronics bench:
(http://i.imgur.com/g5gxIw7.jpg) (https://imgur.com/g5gxIw7)
The garage with my DIYOW solar powered lights:
(http://i.imgur.com/Yjl66MB.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Yjl66MB)
The long finger plan is to square off the side door to the house with the 'garage' making a utility room and new side door that leads into the garage. The garage will be sealed, floored, boarded and cieling'd so it can be heated. That will make a HUGE man cave with a room of approximately 7.5m x 3.5m! Lined on 2 sides with benches and shelving units on another side.
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My present benches are kitchen worktops cut to size, big, heavy and expensive. After seeing the job that beanflying did I have decided that my next set of benches will be made from cheap timber covered in cork.
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Bean Flying on Glue fumes 2.4x0.7m and may as well take a pic because it will never be clear again :palm:
I love that, but the sharp metal corner on the edge gives me phantom pains in my lower arms :scared:
Have you considered rounded trim from wood? Could make it yourself, if you have a woodworking router, from say two-by-two stock. (The router is used to create a notch for the table edge, before you shape the stock. That way you could decide exactly how high and at what angle the trim meets the table surface.) For surface treatment, oil and beeswax is my favourite; especially nice if it gets a bit cold there, because wood won't feel as cold as metal does, for bare hands. Cork sounds looovely.
My own work surfaces are solid wood (like kitchen worktops, but thinner; only 18mm thick). I use food-grade mineral oil and beeswax for the surfaces, because I like the feel. When (not if) I ding it, holding a kettle with boiling hot water on it on top usually expands the wood back, and for discoloration, sandpaper and refinishing with oil-wax mix works well.
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Bean Flying on Glue fumes 2.4x0.7m and may as well take a pic because it will never be clear again :palm:
I love that, but the sharp metal corner on the edge gives me phantom pains in my lower arms :scared:
Have you considered rounded trim from wood? Could make it yourself, if you have a woodworking router, from say two-by-two stock. (The router is used to create a notch for the table edge, before you shape the stock. That way you could decide exactly how high and at what angle the trim meets the table surface.) For surface treatment, oil and beeswax is my favourite; especially nice if it gets a bit cold there, because wood won't feel as cold as metal does, for bare hands. Cork sounds looovely.
My own work surfaces are solid wood (like kitchen worktops, but thinner; only 18mm thick). I use food-grade mineral oil and beeswax for the surfaces, because I like the feel. When (not if) I ding it, holding a kettle with boiling hot water on it on top usually expands the wood back, and for discoloration, sandpaper and refinishing with oil-wax mix works well.
I did look at routing an edge but as I had a few lengths of this Aluminium left over from another job decided to use it up. Using it a little over the last day or so it seems fine if the seat is set correctly.
Going with Water Based Acrylic as it will most likely survive the odd spill of Beer or Coffee better ;) I did a renovation on this little box of weights a few weeks ago with a Beeswax/Orange Oil blend and it came up really well. Using up the last of a can of coloured (to help hide spills) then a couple of coats of clear.
The other thing I didn't mention if anyone else is going down the Aluminium path with screws is I ground out the back of the Cork tiles for the heads so they sit flat.
Sanded back and time to sniff fumes. EDIT: Shot added after two coats of Stain.
Edit of the Edit: Shot of it in 'working' condition post final coats of clear varnish
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Current evolution of my man-cave. Running out of space (like everybody :) ).
6 months later, I managed to accumulate even more... erm... stuff.
I finally managed to repair the CMTA 84 Radiocommunication-Analyzer, acquired a Noise-Figure-Meter, LeCroy DSO, Modulation-Domain Analyzer, new PSU (100A :-+) and some smalls...
Now, I do not have any place for the 3D-Printer. And there's more TE to come soon. Next step is a whole reorganization of the room. Though, I do not have a clue how yet. :-//
Soldering-Desk has not changed a lot, that's rather convenient for me as is.
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Oooo, I'm rather jealous of that 8510C system. :-DD :-+
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A+ for Widlar poster :-+ :-DD
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While she's away at the outlaw's, I repurposed the walk in wardrobe. She'll be right.
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Nice wine key!
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Nice wine key!
There’s two of them if you look more closely, redundancy you see.
More seriously, the foil cutter blade of this particular model turns out to be perfect for non-destructive prising apart a plastic enclosure of one of my products, either for when they fail final test, or for repair.
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beautiful topic. I'm following.
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It's not much in terms of EE, but I finally managed to create some space for my (new) scope, soldering station and components in my little room, which also holds my music stuff (there are a couple guitars on the back wall), gaming gear, 3D printing stuff, etc...
(https://i.imgur.com/Qjn4Rc7.jpg)
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My work-bench at the CCCamp2019
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My work-bench at the CCCamp2019
Noticed here. ;D
Have a lot of fun,
Mounty
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Noticed here. ;D
Have a lot of fun,
Mounty
Hi Mounty,
I'm having a lot of fun at the camp...
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Not much but hell of a lot of fun!
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Not much of a lab, just some tinkering corner ;) ;D
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In the middle of some measurement messy desk. :-DMM
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The waveform on your scope somewhat reminds me of Florida :-DD
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So I have moved into my first house & finaly finnished setting up the workshop part of my workshop in the second bedroom. Also where my vintage computer collection is on display ;-)
The stuff under the bench [desk] is waiting to be repaired or projects I have worked on or am working on. The cupboard is the main random crap storage.
The otherside of the room is still being worked on but is basicly where my gaming PC lives & storage for computer stuff.
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Nice vintage microcomputer collection! :-+
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@TheEPROM9 I like how you found a way to keep all the soldering/desoldering equipment out of the way.
A system that could hide all the power supplies and pumps away, and only expose the control panels in a tiny area, would be ideal.
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While she's away at the outlaw's, I repurposed the walk in wardrobe. She'll be right.
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Nice! HowardLong is that two of the Rigol electronic loads I see?
Do those introduce much noise into the system? I have two Array units, one introduces so much noise I can almost hear it in the power supply. I was debating a Rigol vs. TTi load.
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So I have moved into my first house & finaly finnished setting up the workshop part of my workshop in the second bedroom. Also where my vintage computer collection is on display ;-)
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Not a dig at the spelling but I seriously question this statement. Who is ever finally finished with setting up their shop ;)
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I moved to a new home 4 months ago, and finally have time to finish the setup and get a few pictures of it. It's still a work in progress.
Out of 1850 sqft of empty concrete basement, I have utilised a 25 foot stretch of wall just for the electronics benches.
Here's a somewhat distorted wide angle picture, and more details in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp1JyjHVh10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp1JyjHVh10)
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Very nice way more room than I have.
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That's super cool. I wish I had a basement, let alone that much basement. :-+
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EE territory. super nice
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So I have moved into my first house & finaly finnished setting up the workshop part of my workshop in the second bedroom. Also where my vintage computer collection is on display ;-)
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Not a dig at the spelling but I seriously question this statement. Who is ever finally finished with setting up their shop ;)
There is still titervation stuff to do & more stuff to hook up to power, but the bulk is done. I also need more vintage test grear with Nixietubes. Its a bit hard o see in the picture but the frequency counter uses Nixies & the volt meter is panplex.
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Hi there, I'm new here and this is my "lab". Variable power supply, soldering station and couple of DMM's ... humble beginnings :)
Picture was taken in 2016 before we moved to our current house, 4 years break from everything till the house was rebuild and extended.
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Humble beginnings maybe but there’s more going on in your picture than most of the benches posted in here :-+
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Humble beginnings maybe but there’s more going on in your picture than most of the benches posted in here :-+
Yep - and a great view too!
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IKEA makes the perfect workbench! IKEA FREDDE, gaming desk apparently... just bought it used last night, not fully setup yet... room for some wire spools and more organization, but I love the outside shelves!
(https://i.imgur.com/NZkBpCO.jpg)
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Is the deck wood or plastic?
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Hi there, I'm new here and this is my "lab". Variable power supply, soldering station and couple of DMM's ... humble beginnings :)
Do not worry, it will come to you. My lab was nothing more then an CRT TV packaging box with a piece of plywood on it. Today i have a 30 m^2 space in the basement and a 6m^2 storage closet, with a big workbench which accomodates quite a few old school HP gear.
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Is the deck wood or plastic?
The frame is metal, the main surface and shelves are typical IKEA beaver-puke, although the surface seems quite durable, perhaps some form of ABS coating. It would only be a hair-width think or two.
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beaver-puke :-DD
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The surface is almost certainly melamine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine), a thermosetting plastic. Depending on the exact resin and substrate, it can be quite heat-tolerant, and is usually fire-retardant. I absolutely hate it, because I'm paranoid about formaldehyde (low-intensity long-term exposure as a child from particle board walls, now very sensitive to it).
Beaver puke is the most descriptive term for particle board I've ever heard.
Do note that some lightweight Ikea stuff doesn't even have particle board in them, just a cardboard lattice; mostly, they're just air inside. Not tabletops, though, but doors and small and lightweight but thick shelves and such.
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The surface is almost certainly melamine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melamine), a thermosetting plastic. Depending on the exact resin and substrate, it can be quite heat-tolerant, and is usually fire-retardant. I absolutely hate it, because I'm paranoid about formaldehyde (low-intensity long-term exposure as a child from particle board walls, now very sensitive to it).
Beaver puke is the most descriptive term for particle board I've ever heard.
Do note that some lightweight Ikea stuff doesn't even have particle board in them, just a cardboard lattice; mostly, they're just air inside. Not tabletops, though, but doors and small and lightweight but thick shelves and such.
Definitely some tabletops too.
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Do note that some lightweight Ikea stuff doesn't even have particle board in them, just a cardboard lattice; mostly, they're just air inside. Not tabletops, though, but doors and small and lightweight but thick shelves and such.
Definitely some tabletops too.
Really? Oh no... I thought they hadn't gone that cheap yet, but now looking at e.g. the small Lack coffee tables, it is obvious. Although the structure itself is good, it can't handle localized loads. I guess you could use a sheet of something (Al? Glass?) to distribute the load, but otherwise dropping something like your soldering station corner first from four inches will go trough the outer laminate, and give you a nice hole. Ikea does sell tempered glass tops, probably just for that reason.
Me, I love plain oiled (and beeswaxed) table tops. If I ding it, a steam iron can fix small punch marks. If I burn a mark, I can sand it off, and re-oil and wax it. Can even make decorative insets, if I feel like it.
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Really? Oh no... I thought they hadn't gone that cheap yet, but now looking at e.g. the small Lack coffee tables, it is obvious. Although the structure itself is good, it can't handle localized loads. I guess you could use a sheet of something (Al? Glass?) to distribute the load, but otherwise dropping something like your soldering station corner first from four inches will go trough the outer laminate, and give you a nice hole. Ikea does sell tempered glass tops, probably just for that reason.
Me, I love plain oiled (and beeswaxed) table tops. If I ding it, a steam iron can fix small punch marks. If I burn a mark, I can sand it off, and re-oil and wax it. Can even make decorative insets, if I feel like it.
I'm not sure they still make them but they had veritable desks made out of the honeycomb stuff too. The top layer was fairly resilient though real wood is obviously superior in every way.
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Anything Ikea with a surface about more than 20mm thick is that honeycomb stuff. Kallax, Micke etc. It’s only strong to a point and then it fails catastrophically. Their office range is all “beaver puke” laminate stuff. It’s quite a hobby of mine smashing holes in it and seeing what’s inside :-DD
My bench/desk is an Ikea Fredrik. Discontinued. That has particle board surfaces and strong frame. You can usually pick them up for virtually nothing here in the U.K. mine cost £10 second hand! If the new stuff is like that it’ll be solid as a rock.
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The Ikea setup looks nice but I rather buy something more expensive and durable. The Ikea stuff starts to look bad after a short time of use. The quality is extremely poor.
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The Ikea setup looks nice but I rather buy something more expensive and durable. The Ikea stuff starts to look bad after a short time of use. The quality is extremely poor.
It depends on what you buy. They always have a bottom of the range models that are ultra low cost and consequently not very lasting. The more expensive products are often built fairly decently as they have huge economy of scale and know when and how to engineer a product properly in the right places.
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Here is the current state of my lab! :D In the middle of refurbishing a few units. Also, always monitoring references and prototypes.
(https://i.imgur.com/MU6wCoK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/thzye7i.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Ev7ybi9.jpg)
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Updated picture:
I just re-arranged my DIY bedroom workbence.
It didn't stay clean very long though. :palm:
It's just 1x8 inch pine boards glued together. Top is 36x84 inches.
A little stain and poly with an anti-static mat.
I moved all my soldering to a little desk on the opposite wall. Hakko FX-888D
I was getting little solder flecks over the workbence and onto my PCBs.
I really need to do something about the lighting yet.
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Here's my "lab".
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Here is the current state of my lab! :D In the middle of refurbishing a few units. Also, always monitoring references and prototypes.
Nice and sturdy although I'd probably would have built it in a way less screw heads are visible. Especially in the work surface. I like the way you kept the space under the desk free. Did you fixate it to the wall to get some left/right rigidity?
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Here is the current state of my lab! :D In the middle of refurbishing a few units. Also, always monitoring references and prototypes.
(https://i.imgur.com/thzye7i.jpg)
What kind of thing is that one with many green LEDs under the table?
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Nice and sturdy although I'd probably would have built it in a way less screw heads are visible. Especially in the work surface. I like the way you kept the space under the desk free. Did you fixate it to the wall to get some left/right rigidity?
I wasn't super worried about screw heads showing on the work surface, because I knew static mats were going to cover a majority of the surface. But when the time comes to get a new bench, I'll be go for a better looking design. It was also more of a quick and dirty for cheap kind of build. I had been using 2 plastic fold out party tables before xD So this is a vastly significant improvement. It is very sturdy by itself, without being fixed to the walls.
What kind of thing is that one with many green LEDs under the table?
That's a Datron 4911! 4 10V DC References along with all 4 averaged together on a 5th output. Next to it are Fluke 10V References
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Interesting. Never seen that one.
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Beaver puke sounds nice, though here you get the knockoff, plastic laminate sheet stretched over a core that is corrugated card edgewise ( strong stuff if it was made from something good like aluminium core is in aircraft flooring) and 2 layers of recycled cardboard sheet as top and bottom, with some foam used where they have to put inserts in to hold them in place. The cupboards are thinner, making Masonite board look good, thin board with a veneer, glued together card, and just junk. Careful of the granite and marble tops as well, they are made from granite powder and epoxy, so can be poured as thin as the cardboard of the furniture.
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An easy test for work benches and desks, sit on it. If you feel it bending then it isn't stiff enough. I'm basing this test on a 80-100 Kg engineer as a fair substitute for a pile of test equipment.
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I'm planning to get some benchpro benches for my lab. Having done the engineer body weight test on some we have in the lab at work, I'd say they pass with flying colors.
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Yes what is that aerial toilet seat thingy? :-DD
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That I would guess is a dryer...
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Hi nice lab!
I noticed you also have a 1022 Rigol AWG.
I have that too, but it is not in this country now.
I am getting a new Hantek 4202C DSO with AWG incorporated.
Is that sufficient or would a stand alone AWG be more useful?
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I'm planning to get some benchpro benches for my lab. Having done the engineer body weight test on some we have in the lab at work, I'd say they pass with flying colors.
Benchpro benches look legit. I wouldn't mind getting one for the odd wall out in my lab without a bench xD
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My work in progress. At the moment its in the garage so
With the current weather here dust is a bit of a problem. I would like a bigger 19inch rack because for now most of the toys live inside when not being used its a bit of a multi purpose area from mechanical to tinkering with some electrons and whatever geekery i can play with.
The toy list
Fluke 177
Fluke 789
Rigol ds1052e
Cisco switch
Desktop in the rack
Anritsu freq counter
A couple of near field studio monitors and a sub under the bench for a few relaxing tunes.
a vice
Out of view is my laser
And a google home to do any thinking for me.
I have a lcd panel to go on the wall behind the bench
Everything on the bench runs through an APC UPS with a stand alone RCD between the UPS and any bench mains supply.
The bench is “Beaver Puke” laminate but was in poor condition when I bought it so i have wrapped all the surfaces in vinyl.
On the wish list
1. The eldest to move out so i can bring the play pen into the house
2 An air conditioner so I can keep it sealed up a bit better to controll the dust. With the summer heat its only possible to work in there at night.
3. A 3D printer
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Here is the current state of my lab! :D In the middle of refurbishing a few units. Also, always monitoring references and prototypes.
I was scrolling down this page rather quickly and somehow I spotted this.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=879438;image)
It's a Kontax KS90R Black Ross Low temperature difference Stirling Engine.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=879442;image)
https://www.stirlingengine.co.uk/d.asp?product=KS90R_BLA_KIT (https://www.stirlingengine.co.uk/d.asp?product=KS90R_BLA_KIT)
I have one of these, plus three other stirling engines.
This one will run on very little heat. It will run just sitting in your hand.
Here's one of mine.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=879450;image)
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This is mine so far::
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This is mine so far::
Do you use velcro, glue, or magnets to get stuff stuck to a wall like that?
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It's probably double sided tape. That stuff is fantastic.
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For really strong glue I suggest the crap from new born babies, sticks to anything and never comes off. The God-awful smell and the green color might put some users off though.
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This is mine so far::
Do you use velcro, glue, or magnets to get stuff stuck to a wall like that?
He may be using centrifugal force. It difficult to tell from the photo whether his lab is spinning around really fast or not. :P
Or he may just have posted the picture wrong, but that's highly unlikely.
McBryce.
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And an update , my current bench after some new purchases, gifts and finds came in this year.
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You could fit more in if you got some triangular test equipment...
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It will fit but I can not operate it anymore :)
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Very nice equipment ! Thanks for sharing the picture. :-+
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Current bench and rework
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Part of my oscilloscope collection and workshop.
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Very nice, I note the word 'part' - wow!
You can't be a time nut - all that mass will distort the time/space continuum! 😁
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Send help.
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Part of my oscilloscope collection and workshop.
HOLY SMOKES!! That is what you call a collection! :)
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Part of my oscilloscope collection and workshop.
Impressive.
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I have far too many and getting to old to work on them anymore. Here are a couple more pictures.
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I have far too many and getting to old to work on them anymore. Here are a couple more pictures.
GEEZ!! You could give everyone on the forum 2 each and you'd still have TOO many! :-+
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Part of my oscilloscope collection and workshop.
Impressive.
You can say that again. Linked to the TEA thread to share with additional scope/Tek fans.
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Here's a panorama of may lab in January 2020. I rearranged a few things since my last post on this thread.
The latest addition was a Fluke 8502A 61/2 digit multimeter and the top scope of the two Siemens scopes that sit on it.
I hope the Fluke can take the weight.
On the right is the "tower of power", all my power supplies in easy reach. Below the PSU's are my SMD component drawers. As I've switched to mainly using surface mount this is a very convenient place for them.
The left hand side is now taken over by new bigger component drawers that were surplus at work.
It's a much neater solution than the hodge podge of drawers I used to have. If you're German you may know where these came from ;).
At the moment I'm thinking of building a new workbench, I'm thinking of an integrated solution that can easily (well, that's relative) be moved to another place/flat/house. With integrated solution I mean not to rely on shelves on the wall, rather have the bench and shelves in one stand alone piece of furniture. That's a project for the summer holidays, maybe.
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Moved recently, my new man cave,
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Nice! :-+ :-+
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Being as lazy as I am, and not wanting to constantly walk over to the Pomona lead racks on the wall to get another test lead, I decided to make a rotating lead rack that stands beside my work area. I used an old floor lamp for the base and mounted a bearing to the top so the rack rotates effortlessly. I used a surplus 18" vinyl floor tile for the top and milled various slots for the leads. Total cost $0.00 + time. The last image shows the bearing.
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That's super cool. I unfortunately could never do that due to two little four legged monsters that supervise me in the lab (also known as cats). :-DD
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Jester, very nice setup! Before we moved to our present house my basement space had a lot of point source halogen lights much like yours. I found I was always working in my own shadow - but then I didn't have as much task lighting as you do. Do you find that too?
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Oh boy! Lots of nice workbenches!!! I am nowhere near any of these. Unlike those days about 20+ years back, I don't do so much of repairs. Ever since I left SL to Fiji to work in a plywood mill as the EE, I had to scale back my work. Now, i just fix stuff for friends. There is so much of parts that I have collected over the years and after retiring for good, trying to sort them so someone can use them some day. So, my work area is limited to a corner in our so called "office room" where everything else happens other than sleeping! On the left is my 465M scope which I am in the process of repairing.
Thanks for looking!
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Jester, so much space is an utopia here in Europe. Enjoy your cave.
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Oh boy! Lots of nice workbenches!!! I am nowhere near any of these. Unlike those days about 20+ years back, I don't do so much of repairs. Ever since I left SL to Fiji to work in a plywood mill as the EE, I had to scale back my work. Now, i just fix stuff for friends. There is so much of parts that I have collected over the years and after retiring for good, trying to sort them so someone can use them some day. So, my work area is limited to a corner in our so called "office room" where everything else happens other than sleeping! On the left is my 465M scope which I am in the process of repairing.
Thanks for looking!
I particularly like that little project on the table (left side of pic).
I have been building a layout also. Just started the bench work and
designing a custom computer interface with wireless throttles.
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Thanks for the comments Mark. You mean the Right side. Yes it is an N scale one of those ready made High Sierra layouts. Of course it came bare bones with just the paint-they have a real bare bones version also. Anyway, I plan on selling it off as N scale is too small for my liking now. I did all the additions myself after I bought it off a disabled gentleman up in Davis. At one point I thought I will embed it in a larger layout but gave up the idea. You seem to be doing a very adventurous layout there!
I have been collecting HO scale Hornby sets since I was about 30 years. That was the only time I could buy them on my own! To get those in a suitable area, it will take half the garage! so, now I am procrastinating while regularly travelling to San Diego to baby sit our 4 year old grand daughter when our daughter travels regularly! Life of grand parents will be the title of my book if I ever write one! But it is fun looking after her. :D
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This is how my workbench looks like. Mostly I'm working on old digital stuff.
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That is a crazy setup! You must have spent a fortune for that.
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That is a crazy setup! You must have spent a fortune for that.
We I come from we call that a five-tune...
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Not all the equipment came cheap, but most of them I got cheap, as being "sold as is". and invested time to repair it. Since I do this as a hobby, and never studied electronics I learned a lot from repairing stuff.
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Jester, very nice setup! Before we moved to our present house my basement space had a lot of point source halogen lights much like yours. I found I was always working in my own shadow - but then I didn't have as much task lighting as you do. Do you find that too?
Completely agree on the point source lighting, it was here when we got here. The garage is the same way, I’m going to install an array of LED tubes on the garage ceiling, not sure what to do for my lab/shop area yet other than strategically placed gooseneck style lights. Any suggestions?
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Jester,
A drillpress, a lathe and a CNC mill in a room with carpet on the floor - how's that working out for you? ::)
Seriously though, nice setup!
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I've finished new workbench lamp - IKEA TERTIAL converted to old Vossloh-Schwabe industrial grade LED light, 33W, 3500K white. Finally a ton of light :)
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Small in comparison to yours but don't know when that will change.
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Jester,
A drillpress, a lathe and a CNC mill in a room with carpet on the floor - how's that working out for you? ::)
Seriously though, nice setup!
Only the office area is carpet and will likely be changed, the shop area is epoxy.
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My small work-bench @ home
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Nice, and I see you are using Pi-hole, which is very nice too. ;) :-+
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Nice, and I see you are using Pi-hole, which is very nice too. ;) :-+
I have Pi-hole too, but it is installed on my Intel-based router, and somehow the Web interface is inaccessible.
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Have you tried accessing it by typing http://<IP address>/admin/ ?
Depending on how things are setup, trying to access by typing http:/pi.hole/admin etc might not work.
Also, you did say yes to the option to install the web interface when you set it up? :)
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So many benches, yet so few electric desks...
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So many benches, yet so few electric desks...
I often miss a height-adjustable worktable, but my concern is that it is not 100% stable and will wobble slightly. And this is something you can't use when assembling a board. But I have to admit that I have never had a closer look at such a height-adjustable table before.
Maybe someone can contribute with their own experience?
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Maybe someone can contribute with their own experience?
Mine is quite stable (more stable than my drawing table with L legs) up to 90-95cm, you can do delicate work without a problem when sitting. It gets a lot more unstable over 100cm, but you can still write on it until approx. 120cm. I have mine at 125cm when i am standing, at this level every button that i press on my gear causes a noticeable wobble (maybe 2-3mm, definitely too much for smd work). It is rather nice when you are working on equipment that is too large/bulky to repair when sitting (big oscilloscopes/AVRs, etc) but too low to work on comfortably when you are standing.
Another thing to look out for is the max. load, most tables are rated for 60-70kg (not a lot if you have equipment on it). Mine is rated for 120kg, but judging from the sound of the motors at 70kg load i wouldn't recommend going over 80-90kg.
If you want to test such a desk in person, i'd recommend a trip to Ikea: Their electric desk is a bit on the wobbly side, but it should give you a fair impression of the stability of electric desks.
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Humble beginnings maybe but there’s more going on in your picture than most of the benches posted in here :-+
Yep - and a great view too!
Ha yeah, we've bough a house and finally I will have my own Man cave with EE Lab, Vingate Computers and Hifi. All is in a summer house in storage.
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Not mine but the couple of gears left in the Brain Box are turning if not for benches then maybe a wall panel. Skip the legs but they are cool too. :-+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSSuigBqETM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSSuigBqETM)
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Nice, but obviously made by someone who has never actually made a real PCB, otherwise they would have used more realistic footprints.
McBryce.
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No workbench pictures for two months. :(
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No workbench pictures for two months. :(
:-// You asked for it... ...posted in our chat on Saturday - I started excavating (literally) mine the other day. When I took the pic I'd cleaned enough for one cat to fit; at this point I think three of them could get onto it. At least there's been a bit of progress...
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Electronics/Misc-test-equipment/i-rPLgTV4/0/c72a026e/XL/20_03-28%20Bench%20disaster-XL.jpg)
-Pat
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While nothing major lately the arrangement of my benches is always in flux and this is how they appeared 5 minutes ago.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/d07jBs.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pod07jBsj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/7dByWN.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pl7dByWNj)
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While nothing major lately the arrangement of my benches is always in flux and this is how they appeared 5 minutes ago.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/7dByWN.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pl7dByWNj)
Do I see a RCA scope from the middle 70's under the table ?
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Do I see a RCA scope from the middle 70's under the table ?
Yep, good eye. An RCA WO-505A I restored last year.
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Do I see a RCA scope from the middle 70's under the table ?
Yep, good eye. An RCA WO-505A I restored last year.
We had some WO-505 and WO-535 in the technical university when I was a student ::)
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Do I see a RCA scope from the middle 70's under the table ?
Yep, good eye. An RCA WO-505A I restored last year.
We had some WO-505 and WO-535 in the technical university when I was a student ::)
RCA Institutes in NYC used these which are basically rebranded EICO scopes with some modifications.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/wKioEp.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/powKioEpj)
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Since we're stuck indoors and this thread is still going strong, here's a video of my work area :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15WPI4Z1jxw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15WPI4Z1jxw)
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One small part of my room. I just bought a 25U rack to stack my gear in (I still need to source side rails and mounting ears).
I have at least 1/2 to 2/3 of a rack worth of gear still to rack though... My wife likes how neat it is and sent me some links to buy another one. Now I'm the one telling her to wait until next payday! :-DD
I should sell some gear....
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Naaaahhh! ;D
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Since we're stuck indoors and this thread is still going strong, here's a video of my work area :-)
I really like the area to hold data sheets and schematics with magnets. That idea never occurred to me. I will have to see if I can do something like that.
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That was more of an accident because my workbench is an Ikea desk that my wife didn't want anymore. It's not deep enough for my tastes, but the magnetic whiteboard is really great.
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And this is my place ...
I fix 4 pieces LDM-853A
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And this is my place ...
Is that a DIY power supply, if so, any details on your build?
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https://www.conrad.pl/p/zasilacz-laboratoryjny-regulowany-voltcraft-psp-1405-0-40-vdc-0-5-a-200-w-ilosc-wyjsc-1-x-512411 (https://www.conrad.pl/p/zasilacz-laboratoryjny-regulowany-voltcraft-psp-1405-0-40-vdc-0-5-a-200-w-ilosc-wyjsc-1-x-512411)
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My bench during calibrating Agilent 53181A with new ultra stable OCXO option installed. 10MHz calibrating signal from my GPSDO.
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One small part of my room. I just bought a 25U rack to stack my gear in (I still need to source side rails and mounting ears).
I have at least 1/2 to 2/3 of a rack worth of gear still to rack though... My wife likes how neat it is and sent me some links to buy another one. Now I'm the one telling her to wait until next payday! :-DD
Racks with solid castor wheels are the best! Also, go taller. 39U (1733.55) is good, if your floor can take the weight. Just be sure to make/fit anti-tilt bars at the front.
For rails, you can use plain plated steel L section. Buy full length, cut to lengths and drill holes to match the rack support holes so instruments sit on the slides, and still have their rack flanges front holes aligned with the strut holes. Never leave a full rack with everything just sitting on slides. Good way to kill someone (admittedly Darwin would approve.)
Another factor often ignored, is the total width of the rack. The amount of dead-space at the sides varies with different racks, and if you are considering putting racks side by side that dead space adds up fast. My present woe is that I want to add one more rack in a row, and the gap is about 5mm smaller than the rack I hoped to use. As a result I'm going to have to do a major reorganize of most of the room, switching racks around to shift one 'wide' rack out of that row.
How much did your 4140B cost? Any problems with it?
I'm considering buying one. After I check that the service manual I have on the way does include ALL the schematics. And a source for those tri-axial BNC connectors & cable.
The 8180A pulse gen - I can't express my annoyance to find that HP left about half the boards out of their 'service manual', with that lame 'blue stripe replacement service' concept. Yeah right, till the company ceased to exist. So now my 8180A can't be repaired. Does anyone know of a _complete_ schematics & service manual for it?
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Oh, my! That's sounds like quite a project. Missed it by 5mm! |O I suppose it's better than missing it by only 2mm. ^-^
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|O |O |O Tell me about it. The ultimate blame is some arsehole local council building permits official 20 years ago, who's responsible for the whole workshop being 1m shorter than the original plans I submitted. He red-penned the plans, claiming that the reduced size was necessary to conform to the '70 square meters outbuildings' limit. Unfortunately I only found out AFTER building it, that he was full of shit. The 70 sq m rule refers to floorspace, NOT the outside dimensions. So my original plans did conform, and I could have told him where to shove his red pen... Grrr... He was just screwing me around because he could.
Anyway, that wall does easily fit six of the HP green racks, which are 535mm wide. I have 4 there now, plus one wasteful 600mm wide rack (black and pale blue panels in the photo.)
Result: a spare space that is 510mm wide, with all racks in the row pushed tightly together. But a bit of clearance would be preferable.
The black rack (DEC PDP style) is 520mm wide. I do have one other HP green rack I can swap in. But then I have to move almost everything in the room to make a space for the wide black & pale blue rack.
I'm looking for another of the green HP racks. They look like this (pic below.) If anyone in Sydney has a spare they'd sell.
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Unfortunately the little Mussolini types seem drawn to that sort of position - lets them exercise their inner dictator without the danger of the beat down they so richly deserve for doing that kind of thing. :rant: :rant:
I lucked out with my building inspector here - he was awesome and offered advice and suggestions (like doing the hydronically heated floors - made for a crap ton of extra work, but ohhh how sweet in the winter!). Former father-in-law dealt with one years earlier in another city who was a total ball buster, so it's apparently the luck of the draw. I do seem to hear a lot of stories of the latter type there down under, so perhaps there's something in the water there.
Sucks that you got screwed out of much needed floor space - guy sounds like a right prick.
-Pat
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So my original plans did conform, and I could have told him where to shove his red pen... Grrr... He was just screwing me around because he could.
Reminds me of the inspector who kept complaining about vapor barriers when my parents built their three-story house in the 1980s, above the Arctic Circle. That house has never had any mold issues, but the inspectors' own house built around the same time was deemed uninhabitable due to mold and demolished a decade ago.
Sometimes there is no malice, just utter incompetence. Due to Dunning-Kruger, these idiots truly believe they know best.
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Here is my setup.
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So my original plans did conform, and I could have told him where to shove his red pen... Grrr... He was just screwing me around because he could.
Reminds me of the inspector who kept complaining about vapor barriers when my parents built their three-story house in the 1980s, above the Arctic Circle. That house has never had any mold issues, but the inspectors' own house built around the same time was deemed uninhabitable due to mold and demolished a decade ago.
;D
Do you happen to know a good link explaining the correct use of vapor barriers? I understand the correct deployment depends on the climate. Hong Kong will have a different way to do it with respect to Narvik.
I mean who could understand vapor better than a Finn?
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Do you happen to know a good link explaining the correct use of vapor barriers?
No, sorry. But the basic idea is very simple: when you have a surface (especially vapor barriers) cooler than the ambient air, you need to have an air gap for the surface consensation to be ventilated away. If there is no air gap on the warmer side of the vapor barrier, you will get mold on it, because moisture will condense to the cooler-than-ambient-air barrier surface; this is what the inspector didn't believe then. ("If it was so, don't you think the experts would have told us?")
I mean who could understand vapor better than a Finn?
We are quite fond of our saunas, yeah.. and when the sauna is heated to +80°C at least once per week, with indoors around +20°C, and outdoors temperatures swing between +25°C in late summer down to -45°C in some winters (although -20°C to -30°C is more typical winter temp), you do need to build the walls properly.
For what it is worth, we had a peek in the 15cm thick wall between the sauna and the bathroom, the wall also having a shower mounted on the bathroom side, roughly about thirty years after it was built. The structure was made from 2×2 pine, and it looked like new inside. The paneling on the sauna side has a ~ 1.5cm air gap, then some kind of sauna sheeting material (includes vapor barrier), then studding and rock wool, then another vapor barrier sheeting material (intended for bathroom walls that can get wet), then an air gap, and then sheeting and tiles. The two air gaps ensure that when moisture condenses on the vapor barrier, either due to temperature difference (on the sauna side) or through the tiles (bathroom side), they are soon ventilated dry.
Also, 35-year old abachi (Triplochiton scleroxylon), after at least 3000 cycles between +20°C and +80°C, is amazing to work with. Extremely light for a hardwood, a bit soft and perhaps a little bit splintery when split, but it stays utterly stable, and cutting cross-grain it feels more like MDF than wood. (I deconstructed the sauna stepstool, and reused the parts into a handrail and as the step surfaces for a much better three-step stepstool; the benches in that sauna are a bit higher than traditional.) Anyone who wants to do some hand-tool woodworking should definitely look into heat-treated hardwoods like European aspen; they're lovely to work with, IMO.
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I think I suffer from TEA..... ;D ;D
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I mean who could understand vapor better than a Finn?
Most startups?
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I think I suffer from TEA..... ;D ;D
Ya think? :P :P ;D You should join us in the TEA thread. :-+
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My Bench / Electronics room 8)
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This question is interesting to me. Did anyone really count how much money they spent on their entire home lab?
And the wife doesn't know that. In my opinion it's better not to know ... :-//
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This question is interesting to me. Did anyone really count how much money they spent on their entire home lab?
And the wife doesn't know that. In my opinion it's better not to know ... :-//
My guesstimate is around 1100€, but it is only that low because i bought ~75% of my stuff as broken or got it for free because it was "broken". Got me a 200Mhz DSO, 6.5digit DMM, 4 lab (+1 HV) PSUs, a AFG, electrometer and a few other nice toys. Still not done collecting "usefull" equipment (i swear, i really need that spectrum analyzer & LCR meter^^).
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1100€? Didn't you actually mean 11000€?
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Home office / amateur radio station / hobby electronics lab. Gotta love the tapestry.
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Nice and compact setup! Wish I could have one like that too, in my new flat. Probably moving till end of 2020. Unfortunately, I will need to shrink my lab quite a bit.
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This question is interesting to me. Did anyone really count how much money they spent on their entire home lab?
And the wife doesn't know that. In my opinion it's better not to know ... :-//
I keep an Excel file 15 years backwards for all expenses and income (sales) separated for TEA and for other tools (microscope, mill etc.).
It helps me to keep an overview. I always know what I paid and when I purchased or sold an item. And of course the total costs over all is displayed too :o
I would highly recommend it, but -when I look at the workshop of some users- one or the other should better hide such a file from his wife. >:D
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This question is interesting to me. Did anyone really count how much money they spent on their entire home lab?
And the wife doesn't know that. In my opinion it's better not to know ... :-//
I keep an Excel file 15 years backwards for all expenses and income (sales) separated for TEA and for other tools (microscope, mill etc.).
It helps me to keep an overview. I always know what I paid and when I purchased or sold an item. And of course the total costs over all is displayed too :o
I would highly recommend it, but -when I look at the workshop of some users- one or the other should better hide such a file from his wife. >:D
Hmmm, let me see... an encrypted excel file, in an encrypted zip file on an encrypted USB stick, locked in a box, inside a safe, buried at the bottom of the garden, with a shed built over it...
Nah, that kind of file would be handy, but accessing it would be to difficult with the amount of protection needed to ensure the wife never sees it.
McBryce.
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I’m able to write a lot of my tools off for tax.
Doing last years tax, I got mine done with the accountant, my wife got there just as I finished, did her tax. Phew I thought, she won’t see how much I spent this year. Then the accountant said “we will just review both of them now” and brought up my depreciation tables showing all the expensive stuff from the last 5 years and the table for last year. My wife was looking at the screen with a bit of a puzzled look on her face. We got home and she said, so the stuff the accountant brought up on the screen, how do you understand it. I have no idea what it was.
I don’t ask about the baking things she buys, she doesn’t ask about tools or test equipment.
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My wife was looking at the screen with a bit of a puzzled look on her face. We got home and she said, so the stuff the accountant brought up on the screen, how do you understand it. I have no idea what it was.
She gave you enough rope to hang yourself. Nothing will be the same as before. :D
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My lab is still very early stages and quickcount indicates 500-600 € so far. Could easily double that if i would buy few more modern equipment...
PS. Dont tell my wife.
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I don't have a wife, so that's not a problem ;D However that may have let to the problem tat I have two labs: My electronics lab, photo's of this lab can be found in this thread. And a network lab. Which contains of six 19" racks full of network gear ranging from high end routers, B-RAS's, DSLAM's, switches till the smaller branch office routers.
The total money I spend on it must be a lot. However I don't think it's relevant. At the end of the day it's about the knowledge, and the fun. I'd rather regret the things I've done than regret the things I haven't done :phew: Or it's just that I like those blinky lights :-DD
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I love the blinky lights!
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My Bench :)
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Nice LCR meter, there ;) I quite enjoy mine. I was even lucky enough to find one with test fixtures included.
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This LCR I bought from a Panasonic auction in São Paulo, and very good equipment, like the universal source that I will also purchase in the same lot.
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This LCR I bought from a Panasonic auction in São Paulo, and very good equipment, like the universal source that I will also purchase in the same lot.
Is that a preheater on top of a 3458A?
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Yes, a national model, Hikari is a Hakko representative in Brazil.
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This LCR I bought from a Panasonic auction in São Paulo, and very good equipment, like the universal source that I will also purchase in the same lot.
Is that a preheater on top of a 3458A?
A 3458A with BNC connectors? :scared: :wtf:
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It is a 3245A Universal Source not a 3458A. They look similar.
Jay_Diddy_B
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Yes, they are BNC connectors, but it is not a 3458A, it is a 3245A, a universal source. I would like to find the additional one to leave you with two channels
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The duckduck lab is born! I just finished putting the table together tonight. I plan on adding a shelf, better lighting, a little computer on the table next to the workbench, etc. I'm assembling a Rod Elliott mini oscillator (signal generator for audio testing).
From left to right:
- 20A Variac
- 7A Tripp-Lite medical isolation transformer
- Kill-A-Watt AC electric meter
- Fluke 26III DMM
- Topward TPS-4000 DC power supply (dual 0-20 V)
- Kikusui PAN35-20AS DC power supply - needs modification
- Rigol DS-1202ZE scope (200 MHz, 2 channel)
- Fluke 179 DMM
- Tektronix TDS 320 digital scope - needs help
- Hakko FX-888 (glad I got one new back when they still had a knob)
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+1 for knobs. :-+
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- Tektronix TDS 320 digital scope - needs help
Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with it?
I've got one of those too.
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- Tektronix TDS 320 digital scope - needs help
Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with it?
I've got one of those too.
Neat. All of the cool kids (the TEA crowd) seem to have an old Tek, so why not?
- Front panel module stops responding to input after the unit warms up for 30 seconds.
- Viewing a square wave on Channel 2 displays a huge (~3x vpp) overshoot
- BNC for Channel 2 has been physically abused
- Handle missing, cosmetic issues
The manual has voltages and good information to start troubleshooting. I guess I'll start with ye olde upside-down-canned-air trick. I'll make a post in the "Repair" board once I get into it. Shout out to Kurt who runs the tekwiki: https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/Main_Page (https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/Main_Page). I added the specs on the TDS 320 page. Hope to add more info.
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- Tektronix TDS 320 digital scope - needs help
Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with it?
I've got one of those too.
Neat. All of the cool kids (the TEA crowd) seem to have an old Tek, so why not?
- Front panel module stops responding to input after the unit warms up for 30 seconds.
- Viewing a square wave on Channel 2 displays a huge (~3x vpp) overshoot
- BNC for Channel 2 has been physically abused
- Handle missing, cosmetic issues
The manual has voltages and good information to start troubleshooting. I guess I'll start with ye olde upside-down-canned-air trick. I'll make a post in the "Repair" board once I get into it. Shout out to Kurt who runs the tekwiki: https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/Main_Page (https://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/Main_Page). I added the specs on the TDS 320 page. Hope to add more info.
LOL - I need to recalibrate my concept of 'old'! 'Old' test gear to me is like pre-1970. Just looked at the TekWiki page and realized that the TDS 320 was introduced in 1994, so it could be as much as 26 years old. :o :o :o Where has time gone - the mid 90s seem like yesterday! I think my head skipped a few decades along the way!
I wish you success with repairing your 'old' scope! :-+ :-+
-Pat
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I second all of that, Pat. I just about fell over when I first heard someone say that 80's rock was "classical rock". :scared:
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This isn't mine, but is probably the best idea I've seen in terms of organising electronics components.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQM3sWPiyPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQM3sWPiyPQ)
I have a feeling I'll be copying this idea very soon.
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I did a similar thing, except using 3mm ply.
Generally I leave the components in their original shipping bags.
I add an extra label with manufacturer, part number and short description in a large font – saves me having to put my reading glasses on to find something.
I use partsbox.io for inventory management (no affiliation).
The location schema is “D” for Drawer (I have “B” for Box also).
Then the drawer number, in the photo are drawers 1 and 2.
Then a column letter – A to D
Then a depth number – 1 to 5, 1 being the first hole at the front.
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Send help.
LOL :)
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I did a similar thing, except using 3mm ply.
Generally I leave the components in their original shipping bags.
I add an extra label with manufacturer, part number and short description in a large font – saves me having to put my reading glasses on to find something.
I use partsbox.io for inventory management (no affiliation).
The location schema is “D” for Drawer (I have “B” for Box also).
Then the drawer number, in the photo are drawers 1 and 2.
Then a column letter – A to D
Then a depth number – 1 to 5, 1 being the first hole at the front.
I like the naming of columns and drawers idea. Having software that tracks all your parts is also a must, I agree.
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I have far too many and getting to old to work on them anymore. Here are a couple more pictures.
GEEZ!! You could give everyone on the forum 2 each and you'd still have TOO many! :-+
Now we know who has been helping raise par for oscilloscopes to 19 :)
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I did a similar thing, except using 3mm ply.
Generally I leave the components in their original shipping bags.
I add an extra label with manufacturer, part number and short description in a large font – saves me having to put my reading glasses on to find something.
I use partsbox.io for inventory management (no affiliation).
The location schema is “D” for Drawer (I have “B” for Box also).
Then the drawer number, in the photo are drawers 1 and 2.
Then a column letter – A to D
Then a depth number – 1 to 5, 1 being the first hole at the front.
I like how you put the effort to do this thing rather than just toss them "there" like I do. I have a big travel bag full of stuff but random.
What I wanted to ask is: how do you buy these items? from aliexpress and ebay? do you buy when you need something or have a collection to collect?
Finally, this partsbox service is not free thus for me, if I ever made a stock control system, that would be an excel sheet.
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Defpom offers an open source parts management package:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYx3OW2fT4&t=105s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJYx3OW2fT4&t=105s)
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Finally, this partsbox service is not free thus for me, if I ever made a stock control system, that would be an excel sheet.
I didn't look up how much partsbox costs but I imagine not cheap, looks quite professional. Excel will work admirably. That's what I have been using for some stuff. But eventually I want to consolidate all my storage systems into one nice one.
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prefering this kind of drawer organisation (although I don't like any cloud based systems... if you could do the same with all local electronics ?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f52EUaRM1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f52EUaRM1o)
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I can navigate my drawers faster than google can start to repeat the command. >:(
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I especially like the idea of lighting each desired drawer using an addressable led. I already have a small database for my components, ( and still have a lot to store there...) but the idea of a light to show where is the component I'm looking for is interesting. certainly not using google at all !
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I guess you could have two possible systems. A computer based and a voice based. If you have a computer based system, you can simply write which box the components are stored in. If you prefer talking to the thing, then you don't need a software version although I get the fact that talking to the thing requires software. Just that it's a different kind of software.
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edit: there is this simpler ( and cheaper) one :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vEt2Aci584 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vEt2Aci584)
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I posted here earlier, but there have been some lineup changes.
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My blah...
I like how you put the effort to do this thing rather than just toss them "there" like I do. I have a big travel bag full of stuff but random.
What I wanted to ask is: how do you buy these items? from aliexpress and ebay? do you buy when you need something or have a collection to collect?
Finally, this partsbox service is not free thus for me, if I ever made a stock control system, that would be an excel sheet.
I generally only purchase components from Mouser.
Sometimes I will get passives from Ali, but never actives. I had a bad experience once.
I always buy more than I need unless they are a particularly expensive component.
There is a free hobbyist plan at partsbox.io.
You need to scroll down the page past the paid plans.
The free plan limitations are not too bad. I can live with them. Cannot remember the exact limitations now...
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- Tektronix TDS 320 digital scope - needs help
Just out of curiosity, what's wrong with it?
I've got one of those too.
Neat. All of the cool kids (the TEA crowd) seem to have an old Tek, so why not?
- Front panel module stops responding to input after the unit warms up for 30 seconds.
Same as mine. It was just dirt in the membrane keyboard. The rubber keyboard is easy to clean (soft soap and water) but the graphite contacts in the PCBs are VERY delicate!
Now I'm running with dirt in the Volts/Div encoder but it is not that annoying so far. Nothing that a couple of squirts of DeOxit can't deal with...
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I posted here earlier, but there have been some lineup changes.
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You must have great faith in the strength of that shelf with that setup on the right hand side!
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That's exactly what I was thinking! I have both of those units. Each piece is like 80 pounds??
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That's exactly what I was thinking! I have both of those units. Each piece is like 80 pounds??
I just looked at this on the computer rather than the iPad - yeah, that extreme right shelf is certainly undergoing a stress test! The 8644 is around 125 all up, the synthesized signal generator underneath it is probably about 70, and that Systron-Donner counter on the top must be close to 30. I figure you're north of 225 lbs (~102.25 kg) in that stack alone! :o
Nice, sturdy bench you have there!
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I posted here earlier, but there have been some lineup changes.
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You must have great faith in the strength of that shelf with that setup on the right hand side!
The table is full torsion box construction and legs/supports are all mortised lap joint connections with carriage bolts. The shelf is similar, but barely visible are center supports as well. I have the heavies on the end specifically to get them over the supports. Surprisingly, I can stand on the table to make rear connections with hardly a discernible motion.
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I posted here earlier, but there have been some lineup changes.
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You must have great faith in the strength of that shelf with that setup on the right hand side!
The table is full torsion box construction and legs/supports are all mortised lap joint connections with carriage bolts. The shelf is similar, but barely visible are center supports as well. I have the heavies on the end specifically to get them over the supports. Surprisingly, I can stand on the table to make rear connections with hardly a discernible motion.
Good job overbuilding. :-+ Personally, I try to leave enough room to get behind so I don't have to climb on things. :scared:
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Good job overbuilding. :-+ Personally, I try to leave enough room to get behind so I don't have to climb on things. :scared:
Believe me I’ve considered moving it out from the wall. Room gets really small if I do though.
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Good job overbuilding. :-+ Personally, I try to leave enough room to get behind so I don't have to climb on things. :scared:
Believe me I’ve considered moving it out from the wall. Room gets really small if I do though.
That's fair. And you know if you get a bigger space you'll fill that too!
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I posted here earlier, but there have been some lineup changes.
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You must have great faith in the strength of that shelf with that setup on the right hand side!
The table is full torsion box construction and legs/supports are all mortised lap joint connections with carriage bolts. The shelf is similar, but barely visible are center supports as well. I have the heavies on the end specifically to get them over the supports. Surprisingly, I can stand on the table to make rear connections with hardly a discernible motion.
You could park a car on that!
McBryce.
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What do you guys think is an ideal depth for the bench? I've bought a 240x60cm board. I've trimmed it to 50cm of depth already and this accommodates all apparatus currently in my possession. It also takes away a lot of desk space and there's some additional 5-6cm I could move my deepest 2 pieces of equipment further back. But will that still cover future equipment.. who knows? I'm not specifically into boat anchors or vintage gear. What do you guys feel is the maximum useful bench depth?
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What do you guys think is an ideal depth for the bench? I've bought a 240x60cm board. I've trimmed it to 50cm of depth already and this accommodates all apparatus currently in my possession. It also takes away a lot of desk space and there's some additional 5-6cm I could move my deepest 2 pieces of equipment further back. But will that still cover future equipment.. who knows? I'm not specifically into boat anchors or vintage gear. What do you guys feel is the maximum useful bench depth?
50cm is really narrow for a desk, and benches generally need to be a lot deeper than a desk. I've never used a bench that really worked out well that was less than 80cm deep.
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I agree. 80cm is the minimal depth. For a workbench with equipment 100cm is better.
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What about ideal shelve depth?
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A 50cm deep workbench? My soldering mat alone is deeper than that. Might be okay if you only work on breadboard sized projects and have your instruments on a shelf above the bench, but i wouldn't want to use an oscilloscope on that bench.
I currently have a 90x120cm bench, i would consider that size to be the bare minimum if you want to work on "normal" sized testgear (scopes etc). If you already have a 240x50cm board i recommend cutting it in half to make a 120x100cm bench, that will give you way more usable space.
(You can find a picture of my 90x120cm bench on page 167, the shelf has a depth of 35cm and is deep enough to support smaller gear like function gens/bench DMMs)
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My bench is 113 x 67 cm just because it is the maximal size I can have. See page 123 of this thread.
I would like to have a 75 to 80 cm deep bench, this would allow to have a 45 cm deep shelf, where my scope would feel more comfortable. The actual shelf is just 30 cm deep.
I also would like, that the bench were 140 cm wide.
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My bench.
Did the wooden "frame" myself.
Purchased some planks from hardware store and connected everything together using nails and wood screws.
Two power supplies.
First 0-6A 0-30V
Second PL504+PCF82 150-400V at roughly 100mA
G4-107 12.5-410MHz RF generator from 1977 made in USSR
Has AM, FM and pulse modulation.
Two oscilloscopes
Schlumberger 5228 3x250MHz
S1-107 (in russian marked as C1-107) 1x5MHz (has X axis input and multimeter functionality though)
Simple tube tester
0-100V, noval socket, 6.3V or 300mA heating
0-1/5/50mA current measurement
Two soldering irons
Some cheapo chinese one
Weller PU81
And a cheap hotair gun for SMD soldering.
The last piece is a radio.
Unitra-Diora Tamburyn from 1973-75 (no date code but it was produced during those years).
Used for listening to FM (converted from 65-74 to 87-108MHz myself) and shortwave broadcasts.
In the making is an isolated 230V source from an UPS connected with 24V 500W supply.
Will have to make a "shelf" (an extra plank in the middle) for it once I finish my univeristy exams.
Some people say that my bench looks fairly old fashioned and looks like something that a commie-era electronic technician would use.
Well I just either make my own DIY equipment or purchase some old, inexpensive equipment (the big scope was not that cheap though).
But I'm not old by any means. I'm 22.
Generally speaking I work on power electronics (power supplies, converters, motor controllers), tube electronics (with a "modern" touch), RF circuits and sometimes other analog circuits.
I do sometimes work on digital circuitry but my experience is very limited.
The tube high voltage power supply is actually used more often for working on switching power supplies than on tube circuits.
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A 50cm deep workbench? My soldering mat alone is deeper than that. Might be okay if you only work on breadboard sized projects and have your instruments on a shelf above the bench, but i wouldn't want to use an oscilloscope on that bench.
You can put an oscilloscope on the side (left or right). That way you have more room for projects. Having a shelve over a desk keeps the light away and gives a height restriction.
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I prefer having all equipment on shelves above the bench. Since there is nothing permanently stored on the bench it's easy to pull it out on rare occasions when extra height or depth is needed. Monitor is wall mounted. Soldering iron stand is easily moved from shelf to bench and back as needed. The large scope to the right is on a turntable and can be rotated if necessary.
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=254275;image)
(picture is a little dark I know)
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I’ve tried to get most of my gear above or below my workbench too. I do need to make another shelf for my hot air station and bench supply tho. My old desoldering / soldering station is below the bench on the right which seems to work quite well.
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Added a "shelf" for an independent 230V mains supply.
24V 20A PSU installed inside 1000VA pure sine wave UPS.
230V 50Hz source that is not only isolated from mains but also stabilised as the UPS has output voltage feedback loop (which is also adjustable in 150-240V range, with some resistor change perhaps even lower or higher).
A nice simple DIY project using free parts (UPS was fine, power supply had to be fixed and modded to work without APFC at ~270V instead of 375V DC).
Mains usually 230V during the day and 220V during the night so it's even more useful for working during the night (device can be tested at nominal voltage).
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Nice set-up.
Hold on to those databooks. In my opinion you can learn a much more from browsing through databooks than you can by trying to find information on the web.
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Did the wooden "frame" myself.
I did a similar thing although on a smaller scale a few weeks ago for my soldering bench, a mixture of mini shelving and organiser to maximise space efficiency and facilitate workflow. It's still a work in progress, this was the second iteration: there's a reason why you measure twice, cut once!
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I will be moving to a flat (from a house) in the next months, so let's see what I will come up with. Although the flat is on the larger side, there is never enough room for all the stuff. :-\
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This isn't mine, but is probably the best idea I've seen in terms of organising electronics components.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQM3sWPiyPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQM3sWPiyPQ)
I have a feeling I'll be copying this idea very soon.
That's really handy for odd components and kits. I'll start working on mine.
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Mine is small, and kind of a mess right now. I need to put this circuit in kicad and dismantle and clean up.
(http://gal.redsquirrel.me/thumbs/lrg-4991-img_20200710_1702278.jpg) (http://gal.redsquirrel.me/images/other/random/img_20200710_1702278.jpg)
Was messing around with the idea of making an ozone generator when the pandemic started, but I was not getting enough voltage to get a self starting corona discharge, then I got side tracked and it just turned into something to fool around with. :P
When I build out my shop I plan to build a bigger computer desk for this room, and it will double as an electronics workbench as well. I also want to build an organizer system for components, right now they are in bins in individual bags and it's hard to find anything - or put away. So I end up with loose components all over when I'm done playing around.
I think what I want to do too is a tray system where I can work on a project on a tray, and I can then slide it under the desk. I could have multiple projects going at once and easily switch between without disturbing another. That way instead of having just 1 project that never gets finished I can have 10!
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This isn't mine, but is probably the best idea I've seen in terms of organising electronics components.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQM3sWPiyPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQM3sWPiyPQ)
I have a feeling I'll be copying this idea very soon.
That's really handy for odd components and kits. I'll start working on mine.
Since the coof started, organising your stuff is the new orange. The prices for parts bins and containers are ridiculous as a result. It's good to see some home-made solutions.
Should we be concerned that so many people seem to own a bandsaw?
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Since we're talking about bench sizes and building them, here's my soon-to-be new bench in my 'rough-stuff' shed.
A 920 x 2340mm solid core door (was free), and some salvaged hardwood beams for the legs, support beams and bracing. A man-sized bench, for free.
Also the shed corner where it will live. This view is very pleasing to me - it's a space that has been piled up with mostly 'other people's and unrelated stuff' stuff for over 2 years, blocking progress. It's all gone now.
Later there will be another identical sized bench of the same construction set in-line with the first. For a while though I'm going to need that space for something else. (An old Hendy lathe restoration.) I already have the solid-core door.
Btw, solid core doors come in various sizes, and make _great_ benches. Some common sizes (in Australia):
820 x 2020
820 x 2340
920 x 2340
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In an unusually non-cluttered condition (it is an 8 x 16 metal building, grounded w/ 6' copper rods at all 4 corners):
(http://www.paladinmicro.com/images/ForumPosts/816-20120803-wide.jpg)
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it is an 8 x 16 metal building, grounded w/ 6' copper rods at all 4 corners
Why is the ceiling that odd shape? Is it an old railway carriage?
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it is an 8 x 16 metal building, grounded w/ 6' copper rods at all 4 corners
Why is the ceiling that odd shape? Is it an old railway carriage?
The building's roof structure is just metal rafters with collar ties about a foot down from the peak, I used 1/8" Melamine Masonite panels to make the ceiling, just screwing them to the rafters and cross ties--came out kind of neat, does have sort of a club car look to it...
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Hello, so after a short pause I was back, a few minor changes and additions to my desk. The compressor is put into operation again, soldering fume extraction is installed, components have also expanded - PWM regulation 24V20A for lathe and milling machine grinders (one control for everything - only machines are shifted), power can be regulated for short-circuit protection. there is a new load 150V60A300W and a lot manufactured measuring jigs, a new scoring machine and others are being worked on.
another isolating transformer has also been added - a modified panel - a switch with a yellow LED - inserts the transformer directly into the measuring circuit
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Here's mine, been reading through all these posts and decided to join. After kids, I got kicked out of the spare bedroom. So, I moved to the living room! Need to find a good rack cabinet for the HP gear though.
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Wow :o
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Here's mine, been reading through all these posts and decided to join. After kids, I got kicked out of the spare bedroom. So, I moved to the living room! Need to find a good rack cabinet for the HP gear though.
Nice set up. I also have my equipment set up in the living room. But I don't have kids or a SWMBO to contend with. How did you get the lady of the house to agree to this? :-//
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I had to make it look attractive. It started out with just one 75A-4, then another, then a 75A-1, then another (that's currently in the garage because I don't have room for it) then a 100V, then a 32V-2, and today I pick up my restored 200V and move the 100V, probably to the garage. The test equipment I want to put in a rack to keep the kids away from them and hopefully quiet the fans down some on the HP 8568B.
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You could make something like this https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/innnx5/home_office_server_rack/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/innnx5/home_office_server_rack/)
to match the other stand
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You could make something like this https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/innnx5/home_office_server_rack/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/innnx5/home_office_server_rack/)
to match the other stand
I like that! I know a good woodworker that can make one for me pretty reasonable. I think I'll do just that.
Thanks!!!
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I had to make it look attractive. It started out with just one 75A-4, then another, then a 75A-1, then another (that's currently in the garage because I don't have room for it) then a 100V, then a 32V-2, and today I pick up my restored 200V and move the 100V, probably to the garage. The test equipment I want to put in a rack to keep the kids away from them and hopefully quiet the fans down some on the HP 8568B.
Yes, neatness does count even if there isn't an SWMBO to harass you. :-DD
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/d07jBs.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pod07jBsj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/7dByWN.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pl7dByWNj)
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It is fairly multiplied :-DD , I remember a photo with closed cupboards and empty desk :-+
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Here's mine, been reading through all these posts and decided to join. After kids, I got kicked out of the spare bedroom. So, I moved to the living room! Need to find a good rack cabinet for the HP gear though.
Nice set up. I also have my equipment set up in the living room. But I don't have kids or a SWMBO to contend with. How did you get the lady of the house to agree to this? :-//
THat was my very first thought!
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It is fairly multiplied :-DD , I remember a photo with closed cupboards and empty desk :-+
Yep, almost 10 years ago. ;D
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/TZ1yai.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnTZ1yaij)
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I bet that floor was happier then :-DD
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Yes yes :-DD, it is she can be seen that it goes when she wants :clap:
I just showed those photos to my wife :blah: :blah: :blah: ............................. :-DD
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You could make something like this https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/innnx5/home_office_server_rack/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/woodworking/comments/innnx5/home_office_server_rack/)
to match the other stand
I like that! I know a good woodworker that can make one for me pretty reasonable. I think I'll do just that.
Thanks!!!
Some of the 911 dispatch centers we used do do installs at would hire local cabinet makers to build thier consoles. Depending on how often you plan to swap gear around you can use wood rack rails like they did or if you plan to swap stuff around a lot you can buy the 4 rack rails and mount them inside. But the rest is just a wood box, mine is just plywood.
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Nice scope cart for the 7904!
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Nice scope cart for the 7904!
Thanks. While it is used primarily with the 7904 I did build it stout enough to accommodate a 500 series scope such as this Type 535A.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/DWnNVP.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnDWnNVPj)
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Wow :o
My thoughts exactly! :-+
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You should publish plans for your scope cart. I am sure many members could make use of something like this.
They could sneak it into the house under the disguise of it being a "piece of furniture" rather than just another piece of test equipment!
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Here's mine, been reading through all these posts and decided to join. After kids, I got kicked out of the spare bedroom. So, I moved to the living room! Need to find a good rack cabinet for the HP gear though.
Nice set up. I also have my equipment set up in the living room. But I don't have kids or a SWMBO to contend with. How did you get the lady of the house to agree to this? :-//
THat was my very first thought!
Motorbike parts on the coffee table is a bridge too far, apparently.
:)
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You should publish plans for your scope cart. I am sure many members could make use of something like this.
They could sneak it into the house under the disguise of it being a "piece of furniture" rather than just another piece of test equipment!
Unfortunately there are no plans. It was all done from scratch with "plans" in my head.
And in addition I am not versed in the use of a CAD program.
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I've spotted your Sony ICF-5800 on shelf. Nostalgia! That was my first radio when I was into BCL. That was 40 some years ago.
I had to make it look attractive. It started out with just one 75A-4, then another, then a 75A-1, then another (that's currently in the garage because I don't have room for it) then a 100V, then a 32V-2, and today I pick up my restored 200V and move the 100V, probably to the garage. The test equipment I want to put in a rack to keep the kids away from them and hopefully quiet the fans down some on the HP 8568B.
Yes, neatness does count even if there isn't an SWMBO to harass you. :-DD
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/d07jBs.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pod07jBsj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/7dByWN.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pl7dByWNj)
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I've spotted your Sony ICF-5800 on shelf. Nostalgia! That was my first radio when I was into BCL. That was 40 some years ago.
It's a Sony ICF-5500W and yes it still works. I bought it new in 1974-1975.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/800x600q90/923/SUh5Hs.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnSUh5Hsj)
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Motorbike parts on the coffee table is a bridge too far, apparently.
:)
Intake manifold in the dishwasher was my too far moment. It did get nice and clean though
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Here's mine, been reading through all these posts and decided to join. After kids, I got kicked out of the spare bedroom. So, I moved to the living room! Need to find a good rack cabinet for the HP gear though.
Amazing, welcome to the forum!
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Thanks! I do have a couple more pieces of test equipment that weren't in the original picture of mine that I forgot to mention. A Tektronix 561A and a 7904. Both work great and have helped me quite a bit. These last pics are old pics before I got bit by the Collins bug.
One of these days I'll have my own room and get everything spread out.
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:o........................... :-+
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Gotta get me some shelves so that I can start stacking the soldering stations and test equipment. Feels like I'm really pushing this 140x80cm IKEA Rudolf desk to its limits.
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A little full :-/O
Lifting table ? ;)
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So I expanded again :palm:, when will it ends |O, another is on the way and another is set in motion. :-DD
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So I expanded again :palm:, when will it ends |O, another is on the way and another is set in motion. :-DD
It won't end. ;) The sooner you accept that, the better off you are.
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It won't end. ;) The sooner you accept that, the better off you are.
-Pat
I know, only my wife somehow still do not understand :blah: :scared: :blah: :scared: :blah:
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It won't end. ;) The sooner you accept that, the better off you are.
-Pat
I know, only my wife somehow still do not understand :blah: :scared: :blah: :scared: :blah:
Ask her about how many pairs of shoes she has and why so many and she'll shut up. >:D :-DD
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Ask her about how many pairs of shoes she has and why so many and she'll shut up. >:D :-DD
That doesn't work :-//, she's not on shoes or handbags, :-- I don't have anti-ammunition :rant:
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Ask her about how many pairs of shoes she has and why so many and she'll shut up. >:D :-DD
That doesn't work :-//, she's not on shoes or handbags, :-- I don't have anti-ammunition :rant:
Then you have no choice but to get rid of her. :P :P :P :P :-DD
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Then you have no choice but to get rid of her. :P :P :P :P :-DD
Well, I'm slowly pushing her out of our bedroom 8) :bullshit: :-DD
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My wife and I have a bedroom. It's where I keep my metrology stuff(resistor standards, kelvin varley dividers, null volt meters, dc calibrators etc...) since it's temperature controlled better than the rest of the house. Soon I'll need her to empty the closet out to install some proper equipment racks. :-+
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You all guys posting pictures of your fancy labs and I haven't post anything new for a while.
So here we come, left top corner my old lab with Korad variable power supply, cheapo Hakko clone soldering station and couple of DMM's ...humble beginnings in 2016 before we moved to our current house.
Then 4 years of non-voluntary break from all pleasures until the house was rebuild and extended (that's why a change of scenery).
I've started building my current lab early this year in Jan 2020 (about 9 months ago) and this is my current setup:
On the left side my electronics lab, right old computer/gaming lab. Also this room serves purpose of music room (acoustic treatment yet to be done).
I've only just started and many more equipment is yet to be purchased. We are still working on the house and that's really parting me from money this lab needs so desperately :)
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Just reorganized my one-desk lab to make room for my arms and space for new acquisitions. Freed up lots of space by retiring the large monitor (sigh) and adding a rear shelf and adding an ad-hoc sideboard. also found a better position for the microscope arm.
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Teti :-+ Beautiful and especially the space :-+ , I don't have it :palm:
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Nicely compared, I praise the lifting table, that fits. This soldering fume extraction is also great. :-+
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Nicely compared, I praise the lifting table, that fits. This soldering fume extraction is also great. :-+
Speaking of fume extractor, is fume extractor on your bench off the shelf or DIY solution?
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The smoke extractor is a Quick 6101A1. I decided to play it safe because home office and young kids.
I found this video helpful for making the cost/noise tradeoff:
https://youtu.be/_8hI6hkTCQE
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Speaking of fume extractor, is fume extractor on your bench off the shelf or DIY solution?
Yes, it's my production, two-turbine design, continuous power control, LED lighting directly in the nozzle, filtered activated carbon, movable on a rail, when not needed disappears to the left.
Edit:Somewhere there are photos from the construction, a chapter on fume extractor.
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The smoke extractor is a Quick 6101A1. I decided to play it safe because home office and young kids.
I found this video helpful for making the cost/noise tradeoff:
https://youtu.be/_8hI6hkTCQE
Excellent selection, informative video
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My workbench today after cleaning session. ;D
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My workbench today after cleaning session. ;D
Very clean. I like it. I clean my work spaces every day, to varying degrees. Haha. At least once a week a full cleaning and dusting.
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My workbench today after cleaning session. ;D
Very well organized. :-+
What’s the box with the blue top and two bulbs?
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Guessing a variac, output V-I measurement plus two bulbs for simple current limiting ;)
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Guessing a variac, output V-I measurement plus two bulbs for simple current limiting ;)
Cool
I’ve seen variacs and bulb current limiters but never the two combined.
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Thank you all. :)
Yes, it is isolation transformer and variac with meters and bulb current limiter.
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My workspace is never that clean, even after few hour long cleaning sessions. Just too much STUFF around that I have to have.... :scared:
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I got a new fume extraction system for my workbench yesterday and it works great!
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how noisy is it ?
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Depends on how far you turn the dial, everything from whisper quiet to jet engine.
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and if you turn the dial until it absorbs the fumes correctly at ~10cm of the iron ?
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and if you turn the dial until it absorbs the fumes correctly at ~10cm of the iron ?
It's a reasonable volume to work with, not silent tho.
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Hi There,
Most of the equipment in my home lab I purchased damaged and then repaired myself such as curve tracers, bench power supplies, custom design high voltage power supply and loads of other things, however the Rigol scope, Rigol multimeter and Rigol power supply, LCR meter and Fluke multimeter I purchased brand new. 3D printer I designed and built myself. 3D printer is in Grabcad for download https://grabcad.com/xgentec.jason-1
:-+ :-+ :-+
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So I have finally gotten an 19" rack for my bench!
Here's a tip: If your bottom 19" rack box is massive and boat-anchory enough, you only need the uprights!
I found a 42 unit rack cabinet at my university scrapyard. Seeing as I take the bus and train, just taking it was out of the question. But I really, REALLY wanted to be able to mount up some rack units, so I spent 40 min in the pouring rain unbolting everything and freeing the two front rack uprights. And took them on the bus home.
It was a bizzarre day :-DD
Anyway, Ive sold off all of my vintage computer gear; PDP-11, punch-tape punch, reader, racks, CRT terminal, and is now focussing on electronics for physics experiments. On the other side of the bench is a small, very sturdy table for my ultrahigh vacuum system. So far I have everything but the vacuum chamber..
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Hi There,
Most of the equipment in my home lab I purchased damaged and then repaired myself such as curve tracers, bench power supplies, custom design high voltage power supply and loads of other things, however the Rigol scope, Rigol multimeter and Rigol power supply, LCR meter and Fluke multimeter I purchased brand new. 3D printer I designed and built myself. 3D printer is in Grabcad for download https://grabcad.com/xgentec.jason-1
:-+ :-+ :-+
Thanks for sharing. I’d be interested in hearing more about what seems to be three homebrew instruments next to the 3D printer please.
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Hi netdudeuk,
These were some of my first ever projects:
The top one is a simple component curve tracer.
The middle one is a transistor and component curve tracer. the internal board was an ebay from china and I just gave it an enclosure. nothing special.
The bottom one I designed myself. It is a programmable high low side driver with adjustable delay time and voltage sense. If I remember correctly I used an STM32 microcontroller controlling a IR2301 ic. This was one of my first ever designs where I got the PCB manufactured. :-+
The other side of the 3D printer is a robotic sketcher I designed to sketch out PCB designs. This is on my grabcad for download: https://grabcad.com/xgentec.jason-1
The others in the corner are micron winding machines I designed myself for winding coils and transformers. this is also on grabcad for download.
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Nice gear. Thanks for sharing.
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My new lab assistant starts on Monday...
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1094254;image)
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Looks like he/she is being worked to the bone!
(sorry had to do it) :-DD
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And I thought I kept my guys hungry.
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That's Corona for you. Many companies have been reduced to a skeleton crew.
McBryce.
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I got a new assistant a couple of days ago*, the kids named him Freddy.
He’s already been clobbered by my desoldering gun after pulling it down on himself! Lucky for him it wasn’t hot at the time. :-DD
*he’s a chocolate Labrador.
https://imgur.com/gallery/ZD7NpMC
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The next time you have a bath, give your towel for Freddy to nap on. He'll appreciate it, being a puppy: your scent will make him feel very safe and protected.
(That's also the reason puppies sometimes chew shoes, or steal socks. They have your scent.)
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Finally got a nice 19" rack and made my dream signal recovery cart - NIM bin, multichannel analyzer, lock-in amplifier, chart recorder, and auxiliary gear!
I think it turned out marvelously!
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My work bench is in our old laundry, that became a storage room when the house was extended and a bigger laundry was added. So I have a total area of 2.5m x 1.9m, including the alcove where I have my soldering bench. Please note my home made fume extractor in the upper left of the photo of my soldering bench, it was inspired by a video I saw on YouTube.
Having very limited space I have had to be creative with my shelving, but am happy as everything is in easy reach. My little room has been labelled Pa's Cave by the family and they even bought me a sign to put on the door.
These photos were taken to prove to my wife that my work benches do get tided, occasionally ;D. The photos are in order going from the left and around. As the room is so small I had to stand outside the door to get a photo of my main work bench.
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My work bench is in our old laundry, that became a storage room when the house was extended and a bigger laundry was added. So I have a total area of 2.5m x 1.9m,
Mine's a very similar size, it was originally a walk in wardrobe, I did some negotiations ;-)
The biggest problem is lack of storage, I have a further separate room dedicated to most of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLcVga23ao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLcVga23ao)
(Sorry for the heavy breathing, I've had a nasty dose of sinusitis so became a bit of a mouth breather[not covid!]).
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My work bench is in our old laundry, that became a storage room when the house was extended and a bigger laundry was added. So I have a total area of 2.5m x 1.9m,
Mine's a very similar size, it was originally a walk in wardrobe, I did some negotiations ;-)
The biggest problem is lack of storage, I have a further separate room dedicated to most of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLcVga23ao (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdLcVga23ao)
(Sorry for the heavy breathing, I've had a nasty dose of sinusitis so became a bit of a mouth breather[not covid!]).
I feel your pain when it comes to sinus, being spring here in Oz my sinuses are driving me round the twist.
I am glad to see I am not the only person with a “cosy”.
I am really impressed given you have at least times the gear I have :-+.
My biggest mistake is building my bench too high. I will be building a better one soon at desk height, which will give me another room for more shelves. Which I will need as I have an old HP jitter analyser and W&G SPM-19 that are both in the process of being repaired and will need to fit somewhere.
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My biggest mistake is building my bench too high. I will be building a better one soon at desk height, which will give me another room for more shelves. Which I will need as I have an old HP jitter analyser and W&G SPM-19 that are both in the process of being repaired and will need to fit somewhere.
I very strongly recommend a height adjustable chair on castors, one with a gas spring height adjustment you can adjust while you're sitting on it, and can move between benches with ease.
For some time, I used to have an office style chair, but it took up a lot of space, and I realised that I never actually use the arms or the leaning back function. Basic armless cushioned chairs perfectly fine for me. Because of the limited space in the lab itself, I use a tattoo/salon style chair where the castor base is narrower, and the height adjustment is greater.
The castors on this one aren't great, but it's cheap. it certainly does the job, and I find it comfortable enough for long stints at the bench: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B074FTZD53/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B074FTZD53/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
The other thing I'm quite a fan of if you use a PC at the bench is an desk keyboard drawer, so it takes up no space. For some functions requiring mouse only, you don't even need to pull the drawer out. Again, the height adjustable chair helps here.
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Yep. Good trick is get a Herman Miller Aeron (eBay) and take the arms off it. The size A and B ones are quite compact.
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Hi There,
Most of the equipment in my home lab I purchased damaged and then repaired myself such as curve tracers, bench power supplies, custom design high voltage power supply and loads of other things, however the Rigol scope, Rigol multimeter and Rigol power supply, LCR meter and Fluke multimeter I purchased brand new.
Same here, except that I’ve got quite a bit of decommissioned equipment from work, mostly defective, but in general small defects like dry caps, cracked cases, broken knobs. The most challenging one was a Fluke 8845 with an inguard/outguard comm issue. An old IR remote came to the rescue, I used the IR LED to replace the one in the meter that was intermittent. I sold some of the equipment to buy a new Rigol scope.
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I have a raspberry Pi computer and screen mounted to the wall above my workbench and have a Logitech K400 plus wireless keyboard / trackpad combo.
It’s very compact so when not in use it sits on my bench power supply.
This setup is mainly used for when I’m building things and need to refer to my BoM’s.
Design work is done on my 2018 i5 Mac mini in my study (KiCad).
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Hi There,
Most of the equipment in my home lab I purchased damaged and then repaired myself such as curve tracers, bench power supplies, custom design high voltage power supply and loads of other things, however the Rigol scope, Rigol multimeter and Rigol power supply, LCR meter and Fluke multimeter I purchased brand new. 3D printer I designed and built myself. 3D printer is in Grabcad for download https://grabcad.com/xgentec.jason-1 (https://grabcad.com/xgentec.jason-1)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1089386;image)
Nice setup there. But that looks like a dry powder type fire extinguisher. Have you ever let one of those loose? Near electronics? The powder is pretty corrosive and gets into everything. Probably will do more damage than a small fire.
If you can, find a CO2 extinguisher for the lab and move that small powder one to the kitchen or somewhere without a lot of expensive electronics.
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Woah, bad advice. The label is blue, so it's an ABC powder extinguisher. You should never have these in the kitchen or try to extinguish anything with burning fats or oil. Kitchen extinguishers need to be the wet chemical type F (yellow label). For electrical fires you use ABC Powder or CO2. You can use CO2 in the kitchen too, but it won't put out burning fat.
McBryce.
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For electronics: CO2 fire extinguisher. NO ABC-powder extinguisher! Never! This thing will cause more havoc than doing any good.
For the kitchen I'd recommend a "Löschdecke", something like this:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B009HSQ5P0 (https://www.amazon.de/dp/B009HSQ5P0)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81wHnk1Y6FL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
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For electronics: CO2 fire extinguisher. NO ABC-powder extinguisher! Never! This thing will cause more havoc than doing any good.
For the kitchen I'd recommend a "Löschdecke", something like this:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B009HSQ5P0 (https://www.amazon.de/dp/B009HSQ5P0)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81wHnk1Y6FL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Yes. A "Fire Blanket"
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Yes. A "Fire Blanket"
To keep the fire cosy and warm.
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Woah, bad advice. The label is blue, so it's an ABC powder extinguisher. You should never have these in the kitchen or try to extinguish anything with burning fats or oil. Kitchen extinguishers need to be the wet chemical type F (yellow label). For electrical fires you use ABC Powder or CO2. You can use CO2 in the kitchen too, but it won't put out burning fat.
McBryce.
Hmm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_dry_chemical says ABC powder extinguishers can be used on flammable liquids.
It also says: "ABC dry chemical is usually a mix of monoammonium phosphate and ammonium sulfate. ... Due to the corrosive properties of ABC dry chemical, it is not recommended for use around aircraft or sensitive equipment."
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Yes, and on that linked page they also say that it can be used on electrical fires and that type K is for oils and fat, in fact the "K" even stands for Kitchens.
McBryce.
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I just finished re-organizing my work bench so all the half-finished projects are tucked away for the moment. Parts still need to be organized so I'm waiting to pull the trigger to purchase a label maker after Christmas (as to not inundate the shipping service as they are busy with more time sensitive packages).
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So that's what a clear bench looks like. Interesting. :-\ :'(
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I just finished re-organizing my work bench so all the half-finished projects are tucked away for the moment. Parts still need to be organized so I'm waiting to pull the trigger to purchase a label maker after Christmas (as to not inundate the shipping service as they are busy with more time sensitive packages).
Sweet benches...where'd you get them?
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Sweet benches...where'd you get them?
I got them from Uline (https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1138-SMAP/Industrial-Packing-Tables/Industrial-Packing-Table-72-x-36-Maple-Top-with-Square-Edge). I believe Shahriar from The Signal Path uses the same ones. The top shelf is an accessory (https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-5505/Industrial-Packing-Tables/Packing-Table-Top-Shelf-72).
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Ooo, that reminds me, there must be wood somewhere deep under the mess on my bench. Maybe I'll use the holidays to go looking for it.
McBryce.
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> I put the fires out.
< You made them worse!
> Worse...or BETTER?
To prevent the above conversation, ye olde bucket with dry sand still has its uses against small fires. Does the trick for both oil & electrical. Plus has a looooow inspection requirement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_bucket
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Got the fire blanket, plus a few old Halon 1211 extinguishers that were no longer wanted, plus some small dry powder extinguishers. Should put out any fire. fire blanket is by the kitchen door, along with the one dry powder, and the halons are scattered around where needed, just about one per room.
Yes I have been on a few fire fighting courses.......... Best part is lighting that drum of old petrol and diesel off. Was looking to see if they had any old Kidde CO2 extinguishers, because those have an interesting issue with static build up, due to the horn being non conductive, and building up a massive static charge. Put the fire out, and then light it again when you put the extinguisher down and it arcs over to the ground.
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everything was bought for parts as is and in not working condition locally or trough epay / assorted auction sites
fix repair success rate is about 90% when beyond economic repair is the rest 10%
overall its a never ending chase for the next missing gear at least for this moment
to be honest i mostly using a multimeter soldering iron and a power supply for most of my repairs
the rest of the gear get some use when i need to build something or just play for fun
last photo is the unusual thing that moves from one side of the table to the other waiting for its time to join the rest of the electronics herd
added photos of the lab along the years most of the unused equipment was donated to the local hackerspace
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Is the small Keithley also one of the 2400-SMUs like the bigger older ones (236)?
Still looking for one to accompany my Tek 576, but the 2400-series is so horribly pricey (and rare).
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everything was bought for parts as is and in not working condition locally or trough epay / assorted auction sites
fix repair success rate is about 90% when beyond economic repair is the rest 10%
overall its a never ending chase for the next missing gear at least for this moment
to be honest i mostly using a multimeter soldering iron and a power supply for most of my repairs
the rest of the gear get some use when i need to build something or just play for fun
last photo is the unusual thing that moves from one side of the table to the other waiting for its time to join the rest of the electronics herd
I have a Dazor lamp, just like yours - recently refurbished with new wiring, as the old stuff was shorting out when I moved it around! :D
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everything was bought for parts as is and in not working condition locally or trough epay / assorted auction sites
fix repair success rate is about 90% when beyond economic repair is the rest 10%
overall its a never ending chase for the next missing gear at least for this moment
to be honest i mostly using a multimeter soldering iron and a power supply for most of my repairs
the rest of the gear get some use when i need to build something or just play for fun
last photo is the unusual thing that moves from one side of the table to the other waiting for its time to join the rest of the electronics herd
I have a Dazor lamp, just like yours - recently refurbished with new wiring, as the old stuff was shorting out when I moved it around! :D
yeap new wiring and two high intensity led stripes :-)
also a nice hack is the laptop arm i used an old crt tv arm it keeps my laptops safe from the mess i actually have three of those in use
you can also use it for other instruments scope fg ps etc
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When was the last time you swept the floor? >:D
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When was the last time you swept the floor? >:D
good catch :-)
never but ill have to do it soon relocating
i think the only thing that keeps the center of the room clean is the wheels of the chair
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everything was bought for parts as is and in not working condition locally or trough epay / assorted auction sites
fix repair success rate is about 90% when beyond economic repair is the rest 10%
overall its a never ending chase for the next missing gear at least for this moment
to be honest i mostly using a multimeter soldering iron and a power supply for most of my repairs
the rest of the gear get some use when i need to build something or just play for fun
last photo is the unusual thing that moves from one side of the table to the other waiting for its time to join the rest of the electronics herd
I have a Dazor lamp, just like yours - recently refurbished with new wiring, as the old stuff was shorting out when I moved it around! :D
yeap new wiring and two high intensity led stripes :-)
also a nice hack is the laptop arm i used an old crt tv arm it keeps my laptops safe from the mess i actually have three of those in use
you can also use it for other instruments scope fg ps etc
Very cool mod for the lamp! I was thinking of putting in LED tube replacement, but went with the old style fluorescent tubes in the end - nothing like tube technology! :D
I also use monitor arms to keep stuff raised above my (very cramped) desk. One of the best projects I ever did.
That Signametrics card looks interesting - never seen one of those before - is there any software for it that runs on a modern OS?
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everything was bought for parts as is and in not working condition locally or trough epay / assorted auction sites
fix repair success rate is about 90% when beyond economic repair is the rest 10%
overall its a never ending chase for the next missing gear at least for this moment
to be honest i mostly using a multimeter soldering iron and a power supply for most of my repairs
the rest of the gear get some use when i need to build something or just play for fun
last photo is the unusual thing that moves from one side of the table to the other waiting for its time to join the rest of the electronics herd
I have a Dazor lamp, just like yours - recently refurbished with new wiring, as the old stuff was shorting out when I moved it around! :D
yeap new wiring and two high intensity led stripes :-)
also a nice hack is the laptop arm i used an old crt tv arm it keeps my laptops safe from the mess i actually have three of those in use
you can also use it for other instruments scope fg ps etc
Very cool mod for the lamp! I was thinking of putting in LED tube replacement, but went with the old style fluorescent tubes in the end - nothing like tube technology! :D
I also use monitor arms to keep stuff raised above my (very cramped) desk. One of the best projects I ever did.
That Signametrics card looks interesting - never seen one of those before - is there any software for it that runs on a modern OS?
cant really remember bought it long time ago (priced right for 7.5 digit with cal less then a hundred if i recall correctly) i think it has its own sw
bottom right is MC68HC705C oldie check out this mag rip for a nostalgic moment http://docshare01.docshare.tips/files/18041/180419766.pdf (http://docshare01.docshare.tips/files/18041/180419766.pdf)
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Elador:
What is the piece of gear that is 3/4u high with the white front , and blue line across the bottom?
Pretty neat about the signametrics dmm.
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Elador:
What is the piece of gear that is 3/4u high with the white front , and blue line across the bottom?
Pretty neat about the signametrics dmm.
spectrometer and deuterium halogen light source
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My lab used to be one desk in the corner of a room but now I've expanded it into its own (small) room. I seem to have everything that I need now and also a space to put it. (That's aside from the tm220a pick'n'place machine that was gifted to me but I still don't have anywhere to put.)
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My lab used to be one desk in the corner of a room but now I've expanded it into its own (small) room. I seem to have everything that I need now and also a space to put it. (That's aside from the tm220a pick'n'place machine that was gifted to me but I still don't have anywhere to put.)
I like that you have a fire extinguisher in the lab - great idea!
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My lab used to be one desk in the corner of a room but now I've expanded it into its own (small) room. I seem to have everything that I need now and also a space to put it. (That's aside from the tm220a pick'n'place machine that was gifted to me but I still don't have anywhere to put.)
I like that you have a fire extinguisher in the lab - great idea!
In the worst possible place under the ceiling.
(the place that in case of fire first get temperature increase to unbearable levels and fills with smoke so you can't even locate it.)
Put it on the floor near the doors!
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My lab used to be one desk in the corner of a room but now I've expanded it into its own (small) room. I seem to have everything that I need now and also a space to put it. (That's aside from the tm220a pick'n'place machine that was gifted to me but I still don't have anywhere to put.)
I like that you have a fire extinguisher in the lab - great idea!
In the worst possible place under the ceiling.
What is the optimal location for it?
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My lab used to be one desk in the corner of a room but now I've expanded it into its own (small) room. I seem to have everything that I need now and also a space to put it. (That's aside from the tm220a pick'n'place machine that was gifted to me but I still don't have anywhere to put.)
I like that you have a fire extinguisher in the lab - great idea!
In the worst possible place under the ceiling.
What is the optimal location for it?
I'd think on the wall near the door that you'd be running for if things get out of hand. That way you're headed in the right direction and can decide on the way if it's best to unass the vicinity, or turn and fight.
-Pat
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My lab used to be one desk in the corner of a room but now I've expanded it into its own (small) room. I seem to have everything that I need now and also a space to put it. (That's aside from the tm220a pick'n'place machine that was gifted to me but I still don't have anywhere to put.)
I like that you have a fire extinguisher in the lab - great idea!
In the worst possible place under the ceiling.
What is the optimal location for it?
Beside the exit at door handle height. It'll be the last thing you grab before you have to leave... Or the first thing you need when you walk into a room full of flames...
McBryce.
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My lab used to be one desk in the corner of a room but now I've expanded it into its own (small) room. I seem to have everything that I need now and also a space to put it. (That's aside from the tm220a pick'n'place machine that was gifted to me but I still don't have anywhere to put.)
I like that you have a fire extinguisher in the lab - great idea!
In the worst possible place under the ceiling.
Put it on the floor near the doors!
That's where I have it now. In the photo it is not yet "in service" because I hadn't looked into safely using a CO2 extinguisher. It's nontrivial and carries risk of asphyxiation or frostbite from misuse.
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Added a small LED bar at the top of the bench to improve visibility.
And this little S1-107 scope is quite useful, sometimes even more useful than the other, much better scopes.
5MHz single channel is not much. However this thing can run on 27V DC, allowing measurements of floating potentials (well, mains are internally isolated too, but I wouldn't want to stress the isolation) like for example VFD's, welders etc.
This thing also comes with 20V/div setting which means it can display a full 1200Vpp signal on the screen using ordinary 10X probe. My two other scopes (schlumberger 5228 and Tek TBS1042) can only do 400Vpp on 10X.
Quite useful for that last 150-200V extra when measuring flyback primary overshoot.
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I seriously DOUBT the scope is designed to be used with floating measurements. The ground of the probe is more than likely the same potential as the oscilloscope's case. When floating the scope's ground at a lethal potential, you get the same voltage present everywhere on the controls, case and metal parts available to be touched. It is a serious case of misuse, that can kill somebody.
I may sound as a "safety officer", but no I am not one. Just old enough to be sane enough not to publish let alone pursue people on a public internet forum to this stuff, when uneducated beginners can get lethal injury from ideas like this.
High voltage differential probes are nothing that spectacularly expensive these days.
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[...] 5MHz single channel is not much. However this thing can run on 27V DC [...]
Looks cool! - does it run off batteries or something like that?
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Yeah, don't follow my example when it comes to measurements.
Of course it has a metal case at ground potential and you would get a shock.
However there's no risk of a mains - ground short or internal isolation breakdown when measuring such floating potentials as it's not running from mains.
I just hook up it up to a battery , set the desired parameters beforehand and leave it like that to pick up the waveform.
If I have to (even more rare) tweak it, then I use thick gloves that can withstand quite a lot of voltage.
"Expensive" is a relative term.
A probe like that is in fact more expensive than any of the scopes I have on my bench.
This russian scope is about the same as a new Tek standard 10X 50MHz probe, or even cheaper than that in the former USSR.
In general I do care about my own safety, made my own floating 230V source for low-power work.
But I cannot run a welder or a VFD from that, not enough power or runs off 3phase.
So in such cases I just hook up this thing.
And a lot of companies won't say "OK, you can order that 300USD probe for measuring stuff".
I work with what is available.
Most of the time I don't have to do go that far. Over 3 years I would say 5-6 times I had to go with such improvised measurement.
Looks cool! - does it run off batteries or something like that?
27V DC is one of the options, meant to be used with two 12V lead-acid in series.
I most often run it off 7 li-ion cells in series which is OK, since internally it already runs at 31V.
The other option is 115V 400Hz which is an aircraft/military supply.
Basic power source beeing the soviet bloc 220V 50Hz standard mains.
So it's more of a military-design "in the field" scope.
It even included a belt to carry it around.
And it has multimeter integrated, which is separate from the chassis ground.
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Getting a lot of scopes to run from DC is not anything special these days if you're happy to do away with a Line trigger. Many of the later Teks ran a prereg stage into their SMPS where some 45V is all that's needed for them to run on DC whereas many DSO's will run on ~15V if you bypass their SMPS and feed them with DC.
Just gotta do your homework. ;)
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Getting a lot of scopes to run from DC is not anything special these days if you're happy to do away with a Line trigger. Many of the later Teks ran a prereg stage into their SMPS where some 45V is all that's needed for them to run on DC whereas many DSO's will run on ~15V if you bypass their SMPS and feed them with DC.
Just gotta do your homework. ;)
Any reason you couldn't run a scope off a sine wave inverter and a 12V car battery?
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Getting a lot of scopes to run from DC is not anything special these days if you're happy to do away with a Line trigger. Many of the later Teks ran a prereg stage into their SMPS where some 45V is all that's needed for them to run on DC whereas many DSO's will run on ~15V if you bypass their SMPS and feed them with DC.
Just gotta do your homework. ;)
Any reason you couldn't run a scope off a sine wave inverter and a 12V car battery?
Not excepting for load constraints and lack of mains earth safety risk.
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This is my little setup
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:-+ for the Weller family
:-+ :-+ for the two 34401A
:D
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Is really even the top one a 34401A?
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:-+ for the Weller family
:-+ :-+ for the two 34401A
:D
There is 34410A on the top.
Yep, weller, had my first when I was 10 . Still working BTW. :)
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Getting a lot of scopes to run from DC is not anything special these days if you're happy to do away with a Line trigger. Many of the later Teks ran a prereg stage into their SMPS where some 45V is all that's needed for them to run on DC whereas many DSO's will run on ~15V if you bypass their SMPS and feed them with DC.
Just gotta do your homework. ;)
Any reason you couldn't run a scope off a sine wave inverter and a 12V car battery?
Not excepting for load constraints and lack of mains earth safety risk.
And the fact that you are then converting DC to AC so that the SMPS can convert it back to DC at almost the same voltage (and of course all the accumulated losses along the way).
McBryce.
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Getting a lot of scopes to run from DC is not anything special these days if you're happy to do away with a Line trigger. Many of the later Teks ran a prereg stage into their SMPS where some 45V is all that's needed for them to run on DC whereas many DSO's will run on ~15V if you bypass their SMPS and feed them with DC.
Just gotta do your homework. ;)
Any reason you couldn't run a scope off a sine wave inverter and a 12V car battery?
Not excepting for load constraints and lack of mains earth safety risk.
And the fact that you are then converting DC to AC so that the SMPS can convert it back to DC at almost the same voltage (and of course all the accumulated losses along the way).
McBryce.
If you're only doing this infrequently, efficiency is not a big concern.
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Getting a lot of scopes to run from DC is not anything special these days if you're happy to do away with a Line trigger. Many of the later Teks ran a prereg stage into their SMPS where some 45V is all that's needed for them to run on DC whereas many DSO's will run on ~15V if you bypass their SMPS and feed them with DC.
Just gotta do your homework. ;)
Any reason you couldn't run a scope off a sine wave inverter and a 12V car battery?
Not excepting for load constraints and lack of mains earth safety risk.
And the fact that you are then converting DC to AC so that the SMPS can convert it back to DC at almost the same voltage (and of course all the accumulated losses along the way).
McBryce.
If you're only doing this infrequently, efficiency is not a big concern.
True, but it still doesn't seem sensible. It's like using a sinewave inverter in a car, only to then plug in a USB charger to charge your phone. Why not just use a DC/DC converter to increase the voltage directly?
McBryce.
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Getting a lot of scopes to run from DC is not anything special these days if you're happy to do away with a Line trigger. Many of the later Teks ran a prereg stage into their SMPS where some 45V is all that's needed for them to run on DC whereas many DSO's will run on ~15V if you bypass their SMPS and feed them with DC.
Just gotta do your homework. ;)
Any reason you couldn't run a scope off a sine wave inverter and a 12V car battery?
Not excepting for load constraints and lack of mains earth safety risk.
And the fact that you are then converting DC to AC so that the SMPS can convert it back to DC at almost the same voltage (and of course all the accumulated losses along the way).
McBryce.
If you're only doing this infrequently, efficiency is not a big concern.
True, but it still doesn't seem sensible. It's like using a sinewave inverter in a car, only to then plug in a USB charger to charge your phone. Why not just use a DC/DC converter to increase the voltage directly?
McBryce.
Practical reasons, I guess. All scopes (and other mains powered instruments) can run off an inverter, so it is a more general purpose tool that may come in handy in other situations?
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Added a small LED bar at the top of the bench to improve visibility.
And this little S1-107 scope is quite useful, sometimes even more useful than the other, much better scopes.
5MHz single channel is not much. However this thing can run on 27V DC, allowing measurements of floating potentials (well, mains are internally isolated too, but I wouldn't want to stress the isolation) like for example VFD's, welders etc.
This thing also comes with 20V/div setting which means it can display a full 1200Vpp signal on the screen using ordinary 10X probe. My two other scopes (schlumberger 5228 and Tek TBS1042) can only do 400Vpp on 10X.
Quite useful for that last 150-200V extra when measuring flyback primary overshoot.
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An old Soviet oscilloscope pleases the eye, but it is still dangerous to fly it at high speeds. Look at my simple isolated probe for low frequencies. You can buy components very cheap on Aliexpress and recalculate the resistor to 1500V, for example.
https://oshwlab.com/f33net/high-voltage-differential-low-freq-probe
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An old Soviet oscilloscope pleases the eye, but it is still dangerous to fly it at high speeds. Look at my simple isolated probe for low frequencies. You can buy components very cheap on Aliexpress and recalculate the resistor to 1500V, for example.
https://oshwlab.com/f33net/high-voltage-differential-low-freq-probe
A transformer-based probe is an interesting solution, especially with the premade parts.
80% of the time I operate in AC mode so not having DC value is not really a big deal.
Is there anything I should watch out for in that scope ? I have it since 2017 and I'm rather familiar with soviet electronics (I have soviet spare parts too).
Schlumberger 5228 can too take 700-800V signals on 10X, however they just don't fit on the screen.
Unless I use the "coarse" adjustment (can lower Y gain even more) and more/less calibrate it on some source with known amplitude.
Usually I just move the beam around to look at the overshoots and other stuff while keeping the offset in mind at all times.
What I really like about soviet gear is the price.
Though the price mainly remains low on the former USSR side.
Once it crosses the border (Ukraine/Belarus/Russia to Poland and further) the price can jump quite a lot.
For certain gear like RF Wobbulators it can be as much as 10X. Usually just 2-3X but it's still affordable.
Amateur wise it's the cheapest way to get a "normal" scope.
S1-94 on used market costs around 30-40USD which is not bad for a 10MHz scope (though those can underperform considering high input capacitance).
And the newest addition to my workbench.
A 100W transformer soldering iron.
I really like how fast it goes up in temperature and how universal it is (eg. wire can be bent into DIP shape for quick desoldering).
Some people complain about the weight and size but I like it, I have big hands.
For soldering big copper pads and wiring I would say it's perfect.
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And the newest addition to my workbench.
A 100W transformer soldering iron.
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I have a similar soldering gun - sometimes, a normal soldering iron just isn't powerful enough... but it is pretty rare.
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I started to play with electronics on such transformer soldering irons - I have two such soldering irons, one ZDZ 75 / 45W Łódź soldering iron
and the second ZDZ 120W Lodz, despite many years of service, work perfectly. They are great for soldering cables, I use them when I need to fix something in cars, sometimes with electronics
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I started to play with electronics on such transformer soldering irons - I have two such soldering irons, one ZDZ 75 / 45W Łódź soldering iron
and the second ZDZ 120W Lodz, despite many years of service, work perfectly. They are great for soldering cables, I use them when I need to fix something in cars, sometimes with electronics
My first soldering iron was similar, a Weller 100/140 watt gun. It was very good for teaching "nimble handling"! :D
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I started with such soldering gun too, when I was 8 years old, now I'm 23 and I decided to go back to it.
And honestly it's better than big soldering irons using a heating element.
Those take quite some time to heat up, this thing on the other hand is way faster, takes around 1-1.5 second to melt solder.
Working with traditional solid rosin flux is easier too, I can just "bump it" to take some rosin on the tip and it doesn't evaporate, since it cools off quickly.
I can take my time with soldering.
My current bench setup has also grown a bit since the last time I have shown my full bench.
Tektronix TBS1042 that I managed to get for free. Factory was closing down and you could get various stuff if you asked.
Not really up to modern standards (limited memory) but I can still work with that. Especially for single shots and automatic measurements.
Also I made my own power strip.
Bought a power strip casing, some 3x1.5mm^2 wire, a plug and connected everything.
Making your own is much better because you can get just the right length and the quality is as good as you make it.
Mounted the strip right behind the wooden frame, since it had passthrough holes.
Isolated 230V source now also has a small power strip for easier use.
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I started with such soldering gun too, when I was 8 years old, now I'm 23 and I decided to go back to it.
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Yep, I just used mine earlier today - messing around inside a power tool charger with big solder terminals, the soldering gun made short work of it. Obviously it isn't what you'd use for SMD components, but it has its uses! :D
Cool idea with the isolated power strip, definitely easier than digging out the isolating transformer every time - I might copy that!
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Upgraded the datacentre at work yesterday, hopefully this deals with the temporal displacement issues
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Cool idea with the isolated power strip, definitely easier than digging out the isolating transformer every time - I might copy that!
I use a converted UPS for the isolated 230V, the strip at the front is connected to the back of the UPS.
Used two screws that managed to get through the metal casing of the UPS to mount the strip.
24V 20A DC SMPS installed into a 1kVA UPS.
Two overcurrent protections, one on the DC supply, one on the UPS inverter.
The output is stabilised and ramps up from 0V up to 230V (within one second or so) during startup, certain devices with high inrush are easier to power.
UPS uses mains-frequency transformer so the thing is quite a chunk of metal. Moving it around is not easy.
The output of the UPS is unplugged from ground internally, voltage feedback goes through an opto-isolator that also provides 150-240V adjustment using a trimpot (I could make it a variable source if I wanted to).
This setup is quite a lot more sophisticated than a standard isolation transformer.
I got both the UPS and the SMPS for free, companies throw such stuff away all the time.
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I recently moved my electronics workshop into a separate room, as in the old workshop it was to messy (dust) and cold in the winter.
Nothing really special to see, just basic equipment, but i have some space on the shelves to fill in the future :-DMM
I need to install the power outlets on the right bench, same as on the left one, hope to find some spare time soon...
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I recently moved my electronics workshop into a separate room, as in the old workshop it was to messy (dust) and cold in the winter.
Nothing really special to see, just basic equipment, but i have some space on the shelves to fill in the future :-DMM
I need to install the power outlets on the right bench, same as on the left one, hope to find some spare time soon...
That looks very professional - Is there a brand name for that shelving? I also like the tool hook system...
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As we're in lockdown since 16.12.2020 I finally decided to tidy up my electronics lab and build that new custom bench I had in my mind for a few years. It's finished and I've just put all the gear back in tonight, still need to tidy up though. The bench is 180x90cm but only 60cm depth is usable, due to shelving. Also the height is much more ergonomic - no more back ache when SMD soldering under the microscope I hope. Much better than the old desk I used!
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I recently moved my electronics workshop into a separate room, as in the old workshop it was to messy (dust) and cold in the winter.
Nothing really special to see, just basic equipment, but i have some space on the shelves to fill in the future :-DMM
I need to install the power outlets on the right bench, same as on the left one, hope to find some spare time soon...
That looks very professional - Is there a brand name for that shelving? I also like the tool hook system...
I ordered aluminium extruded profiles and assembly material at local suplier. They even cut the profiles to the desired lenght in 1mm steps with about 0,2mm tolerance for very little money (i think it is about 0,5€ per cut).
Plywood for the worktop was cut and coated at local carpenter, the shelves are made from MDF board.
Considering the price of such "workstations" im actually thinking about making those and maybe open a new bussines branch ;D
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Considering the price of such "workstations" im actually thinking about making those and maybe open a new bussines branch ;D
That's not a bad idea! :D
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David,
I like your wire storage/dispenser. Did you make that or are they a commercial product?
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1164276;image)
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It's a commercial product.
https://www.conrad.de/de/p/kabelabroller-midi-546099-tru-components-1-st-1564017.html (https://www.conrad.de/de/p/kabelabroller-midi-546099-tru-components-1-st-1564017.html)
Bloody hell they've nearly doubled the price!
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conrad is not known to be the cheapiest around ...
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conrad is not known to be the cheapiest around ...
Very true, however in this case that dispenser costs pretty much the same from Voelkner and Amazon.
McBryce.
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That's because they all come from the same source: Conrad. Conrad sells a lot on Amazon or Ebay, too. And Voelkner is essentially also Conrad. It's in the Conrad Holding Group. Tru Components is a Conrad brand name, too.
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That's because they all come from the same source: Conrad. Conrad sells a lot on Amazon or Ebay, too. And Voelkner is essentially also Conrad. It's in the Conrad Holding Group. Tru Components is a Conrad brand name, too.
Didn't realise that. Kind of sad that the choices are getting ever more limited.
McBryce.
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Yeah, there are many more electronics companies in Europe that are part of Conrad. Sad but true. I can't say much more, though.
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Even with my totally crap woodworking skillz I managed to hack together a wire/solder/braid dispenser.
Surprisingly I haven't found a need for eyelet guides to stop the wires getting tangled: I anticipated having to cobble something together but it's proven not to be required.
While it might look crap, being able to tailor solutions for one's precise working environment, especially where space is limited, is strangely satisfying.
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I got me a baby bench.
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My light bulb fixture/luminaire is kind of broken (slightly dangling from the ceiling and cutting out). Well I can't mess with it because I'm not a sparky so I'll just stop using it which means...
Ordered a Mean Well XLG-25-AB 25W LED driver, a Hammond box, a totally-not-overkill Bourns 10 turn wirewound precision pot and a NKK S1F toggle switch. I'll be using some LED strips I have laying around (Nichia Optisolis 5000K/2000K blend)
The Bourns 3500S-2-104L (https://www.bourns.com/docs/Product-Datasheets/3500.pdf)pot is roughly USD60 on mouser/digikey but is 90% off on Arrow so I got 3 extras for future projects, as you do...
Well at least I'll never have to replace a light bulb again. I've been using the Philips LED bulbs you can find at a grocery/hardware store and they seem to keep dying on me every year. I'm thinking of just ceiling bouncing the light instead of mounting the strips up there but that's terribly inefficient....but lovely diffused light....what's a few watts between friends anyway. :P
edit: oh god wrong thread, oh well close enough for desk bench lighting plans |O
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The bench - constantly evolving !
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Just old enough to be sane enough not to publish let alone pursue people on a public internet forum to this stuff, when uneducated beginners can get lethal injury from ideas like this.
There are a lot of lamp amp circuits that need >200V DC voltage - that is more dangerous than floating scope I think (if beginner knows what it means, and usually it is so). I may wrong, but it is my experience, which I get from being beaten by 230VAC and 230VDC.
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Hi there, I see you have a toneohm 950, I am trying to reverse engineer the probe for this unit. I would gladly purchase them if they were priced for earthly budgets.
I called and they are asking over 700 for all 3 sets. I already know there is really nothing special about them.
Already made the current probe and plane stimulate probes,
a ruff looking experimental current probe, it work but it will be redone
I keep hearing the planner probe does not get used really in the repair business. but I want to make it.
so would you please help me with he planer probe by doing some measurement on the end of the DIN connector please. and let me know what is connected ot what and what is the resistance between pins.
if you have some more time on you hand I also have some unanswered questions about the current probe.
I included an attachment of the schematic of the probes. in there are also my finding. but, since I have found that the DIN for the current probe has 1 ohm resister in it. I was wondering is it on the shielding cable?
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Hi,
I built my lab using a similar approach as elekorsi in #4403.
One can get aluminum building system profiles cut to length in online shops or via ebay.
The complete frame is made from these profiles attached together with various binders.
The main workbench features three levels in height 90cm,+60cm,+40cm, and 80cm deep the first, 60cm the second and third.
Over the full length I mounted LED lighting at the underside of the second level, which gives bright and dazzle-free light.
The bench tops are made from 40mm, 28mm and 18mm massive wood (gluelam?) which I routed and finished myself.
There are benches on all four sides of the lab.
The grid supply will be 3-phases all going through a main circuit breaker and FIs, actuated by a nice red emergency button switch. ;)
The whole wasn´t exactly cheap and its certainly not finished yet, but since it´ll be my final lab I decided to do it right. :-+
regards
Calvin
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Hi,
I built my lab using a similar approach as elekorsi in #4403.
One can get aluminum building system profiles cut to length in online shops or via ebay.
The complete frame is made from these profiles attached together with various binders.
The main workbench features three levels in height 90cm,+60cm,+40cm, and 80cm deep the first, 60cm the second and third.
Over the full length I mounted LED lighting at the underside of the second level, which gives bright and dazzle-free light.
The bench tops are made from 40mm, 28mm and 18mm massive wood (gluelam?) which I routed and finished myself.
There are benches on all four sides of the lab.
The grid supply will be 3-phases all going through a main circuit breaker and FIs, actuated by a nice red emergency button switch. ;)
The whole wasn´t exactly cheap and its certainly not finished yet, but since it´ll be my final lab I decided to do it right. :-+
regards
Calvin
I love those aluminum profiles... Wish I knew what they were called, so I could find a similar system in the US...
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Hi,
I built my lab using a similar approach as elekorsi in #4403.
One can get aluminum building system profiles cut to length in online shops or via ebay.
The complete frame is made from these profiles attached together with various binders.
The main workbench features three levels in height 90cm,+60cm,+40cm, and 80cm deep the first, 60cm the second and third.
Over the full length I mounted LED lighting at the underside of the second level, which gives bright and dazzle-free light.
The bench tops are made from 40mm, 28mm and 18mm massive wood (gluelam?) which I routed and finished myself.
There are benches on all four sides of the lab.
The grid supply will be 3-phases all going through a main circuit breaker and FIs, actuated by a nice red emergency button switch. ;)
The whole wasn´t exactly cheap and its certainly not finished yet, but since it´ll be my final lab I decided to do it right. :-+
regards
Calvin
I love those aluminum profiles... Wish I knew what they were called, so I could find a similar system in the US...
They are called "Bosch Profile" and can be bought in the U.S. from Bosch-Rexroth or any of their distributors. But be warned, they're not cheap.
https://www.aapautomation.com/aap-products/framingextrusion/ (https://www.aapautomation.com/aap-products/framingextrusion/)
https://www13.boschrexroth-us.com/Framing_Shop/Product/Default.aspx?Group=101 (https://www13.boschrexroth-us.com/Framing_Shop/Product/Default.aspx?Group=101)
McBryce.
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Hi,
I built my lab using a similar approach as elekorsi in #4403.
One can get aluminum building system profiles cut to length in online shops or via ebay.
The complete frame is made from these profiles attached together with various binders.
The main workbench features three levels in height 90cm,+60cm,+40cm, and 80cm deep the first, 60cm the second and third.
Over the full length I mounted LED lighting at the underside of the second level, which gives bright and dazzle-free light.
The bench tops are made from 40mm, 28mm and 18mm massive wood (gluelam?) which I routed and finished myself.
There are benches on all four sides of the lab.
The grid supply will be 3-phases all going through a main circuit breaker and FIs, actuated by a nice red emergency button switch. ;)
The whole wasn´t exactly cheap and its certainly not finished yet, but since it´ll be my final lab I decided to do it right. :-+
regards
Calvin
I love those aluminum profiles... Wish I knew what they were called, so I could find a similar system in the US...
They are called "Bosch Profile" and can be bought in the U.S. from Bosch-Rexroth or any of their distributors. But be warned, they're not cheap.
https://www.aapautomation.com/aap-products/framingextrusion/ (https://www.aapautomation.com/aap-products/framingextrusion/)
https://www13.boschrexroth-us.com/Framing_Shop/Product/Default.aspx?Group=101 (https://www13.boschrexroth-us.com/Framing_Shop/Product/Default.aspx?Group=101)
McBryce.
Looks like these things are known as a "Framing Extrusion" - and yes, they are not cheap. But nothing is cheap nowadays: it seems sellers like charging the same for garbage as they do for quality stuff now, so you might as well buy quality!
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Hi,
I built my lab using a similar approach as elekorsi in #4403.
One can get aluminum building system profiles cut to length in online shops or via ebay.
The complete frame is made from these profiles attached together with various binders.
The main workbench features three levels in height 90cm,+60cm,+40cm, and 80cm deep the first, 60cm the second and third.
Over the full length I mounted LED lighting at the underside of the second level, which gives bright and dazzle-free light.
The bench tops are made from 40mm, 28mm and 18mm massive wood (gluelam?) which I routed and finished myself.
There are benches on all four sides of the lab.
The grid supply will be 3-phases all going through a main circuit breaker and FIs, actuated by a nice red emergency button switch. ;)
The whole wasn´t exactly cheap and its certainly not finished yet, but since it´ll be my final lab I decided to do it right. :-+
regards
Calvin
I love those aluminum profiles... Wish I knew what they were called, so I could find a similar system in the US...
Here in the US, the most common ones I know of are made by a company called 80/20:
https://8020.net/
Not cheap, but strong and very easy to work with. I've built stuff for work using their materials.
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Hi,
I used profiles that very much equal the original Bosch profiles but are slightly lighter in build .... but certainly sufficiently strong for my application.
They also costed less than the Boschs and I also used cheaper binder blocks orginating from china and which I ordered via ebay.
Had to learn that the profile´s inner junctions or stiffeners didn´t exactly match the Bosch in contour, which resulted in that I had to grind down two flanks of each single binder block a few tenths of a mm .... just about 250pcs. |O
Well, that didn´t stop me and now the result is a rock solid bench, fitting the room perfectly and it will certainly outlast me.
Of course did I grind my fingertips at the grinding stone a couple of times.
But then ... I can say: "Bury my heart at Wounded Bench" :-DD
regards
Calvin
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Yes, there's lots of cheaper copies. A lot of the cheaper 3D printers and CNC machines use a Chinese version, but that a world of difference in the quality. I've used the original at work and it's extremely robust. Some of the Chinese stuff I've tried (especially the mating parts) sheered while I was tightening the screws.
McBryce.
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I have recently moved to a flat with my girlfriend, and I have moved including my lab. And I also plan to build a custom bench from the industrial framing.
Seems in our country the standard go-to profile is the 45 series (45x45 mm, with I think 8 mm slot). There's even a company producing the profiles just near where my parents live.
And yes, these profiles are not cheap. I think they are even overpriced to an extreme degree. The company making these locally, offers the 45 series in three strength grades: Standard, light and economy - which is the least strength with almost like paper thin walls. Yet still $15 a meter, VAT not included. Damn expensive stuff, if you ask me.
You need like 20 meters of the profile for a basic bench with a single level on top, for a 200 cm long, 80 cm deep table. Add like 7 meters on top if you need two levels on top, not just one. And you probably don't want to build it from the lightest profile, even though according to the calculations the strength is probably still about usable. The build then can easily go north of $1000 for a bench like that. Don't forget to include the laminated wood boards (or whatever you prefer the surfaces made from), and then other stuff like the bolts, special nuts and fastners, socket power strips, lighting, cabling, etc.
But it is a one time investment for a life time. And the modularity of that kind of system is amazing.
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Yet still $15 a meter, VAT not included. Damn expensive stuff, if you ask me.
That's cheap for 4040 too
Seems in our country...
Where is it?
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I have just checked on aliexpress. They do not offer the 45 series, just 20 and 40 series. But the prices are to my big surprise even more extreme. Fakin' hell! I thought it would be much cheaper there, but expensive shipping will kill the feasibility of buying larger amounts.
Seems in our country...
Where is it?
I don't like disclosing from where I am, as I am ashamed from living is such a country. Lets call it some small post-CCCP country. :palm:
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Who cares, especially if you have option to pay at least 50% compare to West >:D
For example,
https://de.misumi-ec.com/vona2/detail/110302689860/?KWSearch=aluminium%20profile&searchFlow=results2products
Type length in Gesamtlänge L(mm), say 1000
and select HFS8 type (HFS8-4040-1000) in Teilenummern tab to see a cost finally, so 15.10 € for 1 meter, right?
Actually, this profile more like has cut in CZ
It looks like Santa lives close by to you :-DD
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I have just checked on aliexpress. They do not offer the 45 series, just 20 and 40 series. But the prices are to my big surprise even more extreme. Fakin' hell! I thought it would be much cheaper there, but expensive shipping will kill the feasibility of buying larger amounts.
Seems in our country...
Where is it?
I don't like disclosing from where I am, as I am ashamed from living is such a country. Lets call it some small post-CCCP country. :palm:
Nobody can help where they were born! :D
Good people are everywhere, even if (temporarily) overwhelmed by the not-so-good!
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I don't like disclosing from where I am, as I am ashamed from living is such a country. Lets call it some small post-CCCP country. :palm:
If you feel ashamed of where you come from, you are just buying into the BS of the people who have made it a less than desirable place.
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Hi,
bought my framing profiles in 40x20/8 and 40x80/8 from alu-profiltechnik.de
example for the 40x40/8 super-light profile at ~9€/m : https://www.alu-profil-technik.de/Alu-Profil-Nut-8-Aluprofil-Strebenprofil-Nutprofil-Nutplatte.html (https://www.alu-profil-technik.de/Alu-Profil-Nut-8-Aluprofil-Strebenprofil-Nutprofil-Nutplatte.html)
The 40-80/8 profile is listed at ~16€/m. Standard lengths come in a 100mm pattern, but one can have them also cut just to a specified size.
For my Lab I bought 19.1m of 40-80/8 and 83.6m of 40-40/8 and hundreds of binders.
Attached two pics of the framework.
Oh, one of the more difficult tasks was to screw everything together in the right order.
Into some frames sidewalls of 6mm plywood are ´injected´ .... which required a ´special technique´ and defined order of screwing the binders. :phew:
regards
Calvin
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Very nice.
At the end of the day make sure all the framing is properly grounded....
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Hi,
the anodized surface isolates the profiles. Only some of the binder-screws that cut through the anodizing make a contact.
Grounding the whole frame seems too much effort to me.
These are the LED-lights I installed right behind the frontal profiles. They build so low that they almost disappear behind the profile.
The lamps can also be tilted to the backside. The mounting position and the tilting shade Your eyes to prevent glaring.
90cm wide, 90 LEDs each, 15W/4000K/1200lm, and power inlet on both sides allows for daisy-chaining and give a very bright and even distributed bench lighting.
They costed about 25€ p.pcs. on ebay.
regards
Calvin
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That looks very nice and a good use of available space.
Of note I did a similar setup with LED lights and ran in an issue and had to change brand.
On doing low current measurements on the bench I had hash signals messing up the scope trace. Using a simple AM radio the noise was messing up the whole AM band and it was originating from the LED DC driver in the lamps.
The ones from IKEA turned out to be quiet compared to the first set.
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I recently moved my electronics workshop into a separate room, as in the old workshop it was to messy (dust) and cold in the winter.
Nothing really special to see, just basic equipment, but i have some space on the shelves to fill in the future :-DMM
I need to install the power outlets on the right bench, same as on the left one, hope to find some spare time soon...
This looks great, are these 40x40 and 20x20 profiles? it must cost a bomb! How much was it to make 2 benches and shelving from alu profiles? (if you don't mind saying)
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That looks very nice and a good use of available space.
Of note I did a similar setup with LED lights and ran in an issue and had to change brand.
On doing low current measurements on the bench I had hash signals messing up the scope trace. Using a simple AM radio the noise was messing up the whole AM band and it was originating from the LED DC driver in the lamps.
The ones from IKEA turned out to be quiet compared to the first set.
I had a bit of an oddball issue so I opened a thread in the Metrology section a while back about improving my lighting. The problem one wasn't even that close. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/metrology-grade-lighting-i-am-in-the-dark/msg2225853/#msg2225853 (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/metrology-grade-lighting-i-am-in-the-dark/msg2225853/#msg2225853)
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I recently moved my electronics workshop into a separate room, as in the old workshop it was to messy (dust) and cold in the winter.
Nothing really special to see, just basic equipment, but i have some space on the shelves to fill in the future :-DMM
I need to install the power outlets on the right bench, same as on the left one, hope to find some spare time soon...
This looks great, are these 40x40 and 20x20 profiles? it must cost a bomb! How much was it to make 2 benches and shelving from alu profiles? (if you don't mind saying)
The profiles are 45x45 U10 and 30x30 U8
The alu profiles and mounting material was around 500€ (+VAT) for both benches. This price includes cutting to desired length in mm steps (i think you can go with 0,1mm resolution) and milling for the insertion of internal connectors.
Worktop is made from 28mm plywood, coated with 2k PUR coating. Shelves are made from MDF. These all costed me 150€ (cut and coated) at local carpenter.
So all together with lightning and electrical outlets i would say less than 1000€ for both. Of course my time is not calculated in here...
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Unbuilt addon/insert idea for the bench. So call this a pre insertion straw poll and maybe not threadworthy in its own right. :) Would you cut in one or more adapter flanges on your bench to allow plugin stands mounts and ???
These hex mount adapters (not the base) are used a lot in Kayaks and Fishing but also for in car or motorbike mounts. Ram was/is the original maker of the system but their is a rash of clones all over evilbay and Aliexpress. Lots of adapter options from ball swivels to plain to ..... eBay auction: #222756528174 eBay auction: #284135913312 eBay auction: #203239750208 Take a base bit and screw on goosenecks or other stands ....
Not proposing to 3D print the balls or hex mounts they need more accuracy/strength and the bits are cheap so just the flush fitting inserts. Also likely 90 degree mounts for the fronts of shelves/benches too. Also a plug of some sort when not in use loose fit and flip out.
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I recently moved my electronics workshop into a separate room, as in the old workshop it was to messy (dust) and cold in the winter.
Nothing really special to see, just basic equipment, but i have some space on the shelves to fill in the future :-DMM
I need to install the power outlets on the right bench, same as on the left one, hope to find some spare time soon...
Hey nice setup! The electrical panel / power strip is commercial? Otherwise do you have a BOM?
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I've made some changes to the lab here since last time I posted an update (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rebuilding-my-lab-bench/msg2553573/). Here's a few pics for anybody who enjoys "test gear porn". :-DMM
Current state:
(Well, almost current. I've made one or two more small mods since I took these photos)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f6sBUtxYyIeWZpSv6RJ-5_3SgDqxz1NjjEnMGoRRKwHS_ByEaLNciQqY69QQlZftKbFRM6jDIS9kV_SmUhXVEZvfcXga9jPBmesAIQQ--5WTtTKvhMqw-pHNgwHtjJGnHonWWt8SUAoFn8PBuG8NM4=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
That entire area to the right of my bench is "new" (as in, newly made part of my "lab area"). There was always a TV stand there, but for the last few years all it's held was an old rack-mount UPC that I was gifted from a previous employer, a rack mount SAN array which I was also gifted by that employer (they were moving a lab and downsizing in the process, so they threw out a bunch of kit), and bunch of books and magazines. I cleared that off, put up one of those cheapo wire-rack shelves, and put all the new stuff (including a new TV) over there. And yes, I consider the TV 'lab equipment" more than anything. I actually do all my media consumption (Netflix, Hulu, etc.) on my laptop usually. That TV is there to be used for Raspberry Pi stuff (to be fair, including playing old games using RetroPi every now and again), the lab PC, maybe looking at something with the new microscope, etc.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ctIwJg3X55MUd41QqGMpGz6erYX4daX05-Ioht2DFN3NacIyqlGCGbDMo2BOZKR9EmiQU0ANrZQo8LNsu3akurbdoug3Cv2eA0aBtyQoQgxwaQAmnWMbW_O0f7z1gblu6Sy92C0JM0GMEo-aUuNSMG=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Behind the TV is a Black and Decker convection oven that I plan to do a reflow oven conversion on, as well as the older HP 1660A logic analyzer. Luckily this TV is so light I can pick it up with one arm, so it's easy to move out of the way when needed.
Above the TV is an old Toshiba laptop that is there mainly for listening to music, looking up data sheets, and programming Arduinos. Next to it is the new Keysight 16862A logic analyzer.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dmHuzhks0ujI61aafqbuxpjREmVolmyJt4vzb7u6PJ1dzbOGIlQiecaxQRdgAuKlbQgj2DS6wAbruniEXsBTo1Uy_P1_0Rj64lq0VDUU-Hlb5QhimzdzosJsMNBeYvuSpif7NLGGo3yz9KUMwTcAib=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
This one Raspberry Pi is semi-permanently dedicated to being my "game console" running RetroPi.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cPjqi5dDWg4uuRCSBd1JADxgbJivCaovUAdnXJunDi3NJHftqn6JFE5uEJB_Rlt5UTQRHWMPfEJGDhIB8R01Oe82OSSb4PdO9AWzYgf32mC8tqlSPTMC1CFQSBNt0k9t9yG6jKjq4sGU5zAbDLkjPa=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
An unfortunately blurry photo of "The Beast" - aka my "new" Keysight 16862A logic analyzer. This one has "only" 68 channels (and I only have one probe so I can only use 34 right now) but is quite the machine.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dzVV3ELRtCGIWDQMH4bIghl-1_N9TvSY9qWgb_PgYTKdgoU89wKc7aCCvnsFYiB6Ecr8-27AuSuZ4ONK-0xlg96MHVhgqXtpsakunfXmLsAH4VfcMId3POpWKI9ew85G5XL3FOhXAacoeHWjvNqKrP=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Another look at the old laptop and the new logic analyzer.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fsQmUuxNnXUrw8j71SrLSiku3LjMvk4x9CH0ds9SvoU9_LVh9GxDmIaaL7J4T5mizuZQl6-RnvGetFNF_T8wbKc6EIxttZgIcMbi2PWabEueYomQqN13CT8waQOZgA8Ol8VojGbGAXnzFLmBoemZXc=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
The new Rigol MSO7024 scope.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fOdOZ2Bw2qJfVAnOjlQCpLBKj9eXukPgYXZA49fqyVDdzzUbSJVs85PJNuQeaWARfH0ZDqqHydAGQ5uGmHcWfXDadD-UA-pMHZCTzZqkmyCKjQ2FFnqBbtuiRCgKzYWhnjBABjwm6PGGwDaWcoEq7Y=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
And the new Rigol RSA3015N 1.5 GHz Spectrum Analyzer.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fYXGkCuC7xoox0dVh90tOFQaaXN2DlV0G3qpZzzn29dS-4Z0DNJZWFLLOF1Y8MPZEvlIgNrEYUBDN0SRtJTbf8gqvhtq4ExiTPeZwBFU7h4eItIHFmADYAMkIBl7DCCtF_ahY9K-KSJfSMFB_NcSUQ=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Temporarily jammed up there and not even unboxed yet are a cheap 3D printer and a cheap CNC mill (which I intend to use mainly for making PCB's)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fIWxxPNsPlwD8bVV-N2zuHtw8_KCVn6-k2VmMJTwqqWcs7PJyb1LhSoJ1FNg2KOfp4x8v7yMnjTXsJ9LEQ1kOZH9XoPsUZpxf2G-9ZnxB6jSDXdxsIfxrht80vnDE6OEZScfzuRijOK8penSytBwWR=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Wedged away down there and barely visible is my new Andonstar soldering microscope.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e4VEx7bH6nUFrgyUpLS7X5EumWqBEYXvga_XkpxfzRT9zOsxRc2Z7l20nCmmvx3hKOuA2avD7tvaVsqia8N8XakOxyaTZceMqJp1JaWQfzfRNlu0Ap5OLf_KiUOT5CJw_ywjIstOqGx0mF76rbApv9=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
I've been threatening to buy an official EEVBlog DMM since I got here, and well... the time has come!
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fqa74l1WSRFRN0M6ofBQF9Qlet8iDnIOstn9t1IYQpGdWlil5ewW54ghzTVioM6Co72C7q6p5-NzH4ACYsA44X-lBNODOgW9TqqxM-kj9NYJ5IZrtQ-FA682tYsGezioDL8KbuBK50lhuYmJ-WTqH_=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
And an LCR meter just for the sake of completeness.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ejTED6lV8KylaJl3dXFA0X6SP4Yr_rzneTEuU_9vgczuwv8j5oqJqBsoANKkFLCq4JuMYlKs0XQ9B_Cz0mJv59APp1fZAOXQW1Jo7062tloBjTKLWuakFjDh5TYaof-golpuKso7f76oacluiZCRh2=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
You can never have too many soldering irons, right?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3esAShfEE-GhjD9adY0Z2YJzC9aG5jjjWrt-MNA2UW8l81LuHTxKPR0k8JqFvhdNRZQeW_fn2b-HMLCiUVU84mYSa1Y_JdfJs_ZuzooaIFEXW5QrUsN5Y-n_57cxzTnn2u88lbER4u_5wPZRmyRE7el=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Soldering is cool.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3flucCzcjN8V3WLwfVA6Bs6zoiTFX5AHs0inMKb258hpz3gbZZajAJH8kXaVlyg-d5bUYxV5Zb158QCo82OQ8ed8rYGXIsov57N08Wl5VFfNu-0YsloH4hFcK4y39C9srKhzgxlpIzUFH3Hg-feVYq-=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Doing it under magnification is even better.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fEVWDNgSlDt2_orc6ofclvEYfTSSNhfviDQcFCpu96aG-RcDE50mM8pvgWmWUjvO4F1EPw_AYkullJNeiRmAfGLk2vsjA0NRwqH4UG9W-JtrP8vEQ0W6_rRyKLQbBmwDientZXFAga0FZ6UeN2_aio=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
A Rigol DL3021A programmable load. I got this last year, before my recent shopping spree.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fPGvf3qW6R4lhOQooYBBxOXpzMEt3boIyN0o-m6Xt-rj_iCAwAtFKG4B_H0Ap3q5ZZbG77vY6smH-JwhtZeWKLAuGGISlXf_sfjaryuT-PcCqi27ypu4eT_-OoExdItVnAzpfPX7wV23RQEehK5V6I=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
The piece de resistance!! :-DD
Underneath the coffee mug is the battery tray from the UPS I mentioned above. I never bothered using that UPS for anything when I first got it and it had been in storage for quite a while. I pulled it out and it wouldn't power up. The batteries were stone cold dead, so I ordered up a new set, slapped them in, and it's working like a champ now. The UPS (an APC Smart UPS 1500) now lives behind that TV there, and all the test equipment and stuff is running off of it.
EDIT:
A few pics of the very latest tweaks and additions, from in just the last week or two:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fvYaAPKup6zFlCvq5UTUEce725iFLPbQifX9QKzDJOOchDOK_jjWLvDe9k4TCwG0yiNxcYSDZS5fraNyf7EgQKsoX0BxDGAwLJIl4X2raRtHJJCkwbnyp3aPypTM2z81krenG8LknrQh1vj4Gyv-Jz=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
I added a strip of those silly color changing LED lights just to add some pizzazz. Or "bling" as the kids call it today, I guess.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3e40ieFS5FSAz1qqAaD_Ik_GH7_DFhT6wpJCDpOtNVXZSXvyr0Q13M35FaHIyhiuHrpHWf_UkMd74R6wEdCJnV4Xsomibi4g9tlyPT8K3grpYNFc4rCKdlYjHqd6NRNz8NZ4mlzKyzZ1-hF1vn7sD-3=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
This room is perpetually dark to my way of thinking and you can never have too much light, so I added a couple of these old-fashioned drop lights. You can't really see it in this pic, but I used those simulated retro "Edison style" bulbs, just for aesthetic effect.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cwpSKq-qkrPHvCcd6bfL4Ar3qnQmQHC31yfyyKiM9z_D3X8Wr6YXpJ2sPig_dABdFGQqFplStQp-PdJGWg8q8lR1DMbehHgeIZfkhdkZBf0kGSlylXoXCTMaxuLEUdnfQshF9YpuCgQCpv0ptRW7qI=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
If I'm doing something on the bench that really calls for a lot of direct light, I can pull one, two, or all three of the drop lights over and hang them off the rack like this.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3d8KOtsJD3OoR5BK0umWaaG33BigcVaIq_nCSruNrEtRTSEf_4fMZGZ2wm1MBimHwJDox86kPeZHRLMijTUOzzr6YwNcY9HdlVHcaAhUBC9yt3dHNUGXcFNBlzsqUuKG1uayHRVuP7Q66tRh5Udp7eX=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Maybe it's just me, but I really dig these bulbs. Makes me feel like I'm working in Nikola Tesla's laboratory or something.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f_2uqw3dGW-f1PUTjUPyxutdxeFHFUuuIiwrvAJ6xzfXaKP47imIm0_E1X6EpjiS6gZkkIbkGK52Bjoln0TR-k-gjSGgBCemRSYI80MJFg_Q6xqfYDBNUMrcXYldoscC9VLkLkYWY-0Wff9T8DvRGS=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
A better picture of the new Keysight logic analyzer.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fahlSwD9E5pDGF1u03fke_gwiVj8buDYzZOJHLQIZshY4Q0Lki32OOLJwEI30Z8_e6I1ZIrwz9tCwj99e4LLfqw-LfrXmhnrz2NB-E5hr3qL_gVekx7xJJnIjsZS787PgCABlAeSnpnI7He1YKsosK=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Not really a recent addition, but who doesn't like looking at solder??
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fuT0u-C_izXDdve126NPRWWVhOwLDsBI736PTapi7e_qe1u3YO0n5hX3iRAGa5k4J84uqE0W9VsBp8YrbBOHodQodCFX5TDGG6apCIvA47k6_-F6IvgYHN5CLHyQd1AgSOZwQXAV8IWxYZLZB8UyR3=w642-h854-no?authuser=0)
No, your eyes do not deceive you. I still use the Radio Shack brand solder on (rare) occasions. Mostly I use Multicore these days, but I keep some of the RS stuff around nonetheless.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dLgjHVb8U3Wcmg3wkRYkmXf0571wS9qPWlPAXefMNoh6uVbrYJenTfE4V8ybcmMJgjWhz38V8LjXCCPwY68VpsRm-vCeURXb24muqGN-pzArssA3dyXHQkA6sqtbWROiFJOmU226tEG73hTd5EywkK=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Just put this in place earlier today. It's good to have more places to plug stuff in.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dOfr-h4P1-4VD_i0OdrYhprLMEgcjwBkHMXHFUU23nFyi6FOgk4k0P9lQqJ-mQMoK6HWHkNF4msKgJ8jyTGsUJ7MiodbIpn0mCQtsdFgDNy-zCG3fumLcfQTfXJvQpDfjhCq21Tc5Meb4tpz-RpsUA=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
As mentioned above, behind the TV lives this thing which today is a "convection oven" but which will soon be a "reflow oven".
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3c3ggHIsnvcpnHnisVvrZPVEc_T6O-Htn0ZNV-B1nMX6GDvTYBDdl1Cv4Ja_P-bH5YtORJ3CKFge_CFGG9oPysQgpT0sM-K6T8q178bVhNxwbDfzWiObkRaI-2whUpNbtvXmRfSsaloCYADGF9oBhD-=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
My other HP logic analyzer. It also is hidden behind the TV most of the time. One of about 10 logic analyzers I own, if you count all the miscellaneous USB logic analyzers, bus pirates, etc. that I have lying around. I guess I sort of collect logic analyzers. Weird, right?
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f_gOrjNcaD4vKn6zfVuWKJDSs5206zdON3IxZbILOAt6AgOzJXEHh7hb7xgfk6QQSdT5hACLrbAJzu48Fl20WVaza3dvphr9ujUq4EB6rivQJGe9Onv4laePr48QU06hXVF7V-43Qi6_anysJQ7YK9=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
Same thing, but without my thumb in the picture.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3fFCSQEgX2Ttae91ceA1PgX2Kg_h9xKkC37LZcMbG2191YH6gP7oo_WWUeefg_9bT9UAuDGj2CTvHj4drzjghuR--ld1PSgFtjdIuQcOzZANeEKBDmKxFW7keAhiNgs0TPoG_tOerh3OANFwHrEONpV=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
The Smart UPS 1500. It sits sideways because it won't fit the other way, so not much to look at from this angle.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3db4poCvniokedla80r8gZHLp5CIXGtJhzcQqdfvHhGZtCqfgWmvdO1AmaTkXFGcAlqrNixGTDuTTJ9bO9Jd45j6YpVXtpqffBiwb6uZouwNuTDDNj8ZHad_clGL8tKxTjHpskZY98Qb58doPSqaRUU=w1139-h854-no?authuser=0)
My little Baofeng ham radio is tucked away down here in the corner.
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Sometimes the small changes can make quite the difference.
Added double outlet which is easily accessible from the front and by utilizing some junk metal plate, screws and heatshrink tubes I also built a simple soldering gun holder.
Soldering gun weights 0.8kg so having a dedicated place is a good idea, keeping order and making sure this thing won't fall off the bench.
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Sometimes the small changes can make quite the difference.
Added double outlet which is easily accessible from the front and by utilizing some junk metal plate, screws and heatshrink tubes I also built a simple soldering gun holder.
Soldering gun weights 0.8kg so having a dedicated place is a good idea, keeping order and making sure this thing won't fall off the bench.
I love that soldering gun - presumably, not the one you use for SMT components? :D
I have a Weller soldering gun that sometimes is the best for e.g. heavy cables etc.
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My other HP logic analyzer. It also is hidden behind the TV most of the time. One of about 10 logic analyzers I own, if you count all the miscellaneous USB logic analyzers, bus pirates, etc. that I have lying around. I guess I sort of collect logic analyzers. Weird, right?
It may be weird in this thread, but definitely not in this one: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/)
McBryce.
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My other HP logic analyzer. It also is hidden behind the TV most of the time. One of about 10 logic analyzers I own, if you count all the miscellaneous USB logic analyzers, bus pirates, etc. that I have lying around. I guess I sort of collect logic analyzers. Weird, right?
It may be weird in this thread, but definitely not in this one: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/)
McBryce.
Oh yeah, I definitely have Test Equipment Addiction (TEA). Sadly that lot there are more likely to encourage it than do anything to help. :-DD
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My other HP logic analyzer. It also is hidden behind the TV most of the time. One of about 10 logic analyzers I own, if you count all the miscellaneous USB logic analyzers, bus pirates, etc. that I have lying around. I guess I sort of collect logic analyzers. Weird, right?
It may be weird in this thread, but definitely not in this one: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/)
McBryce.
Oh yeah, I definitely have Test Equipment Addiction (TEA). Sadly that lot there are more likely to encourage it than do anything to help. :-DD
You say that like it's a bad thing... You're looking at it from the wrong point of view - encouraging it IS helping!
-Pat
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Oh yeah, I definitely have Test Equipment Addiction (TEA). Sadly that lot there are more likely to encourage it than do anything to help. :-DD
Come join us - don't be afraid. :-DD
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/)
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Oh yeah, I definitely have Test Equipment Addiction (TEA). Sadly that lot there are more likely to encourage it than do anything to help. :-DD
Come join us - don't be afraid. :-DD
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/)
Oh, I'm there. Have been for a long time. I just don't post very often in that thread. But I just got a new Test Equipment related item, so I'll probably post and say something about that. 8)
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My other HP logic analyzer. It also is hidden behind the TV most of the time. One of about 10 logic analyzers I own, if you count all the miscellaneous USB logic analyzers, bus pirates, etc. that I have lying around. I guess I sort of collect logic analyzers. Weird, right?
It may be weird in this thread, but definitely not in this one: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/)
McBryce.
Oh yeah, I definitely have Test Equipment Addiction (TEA). Sadly that lot there are more likely to encourage it than do anything to help. :-DD
You say that like it's a bad thing... You're looking at it from the wrong point of view - encouraging it IS helping!
-Pat
See! This is *exactly* what I'm talking about. :scared: :scared: :scared: :-DD
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This is not where I spent my first 10 years as an electronics hobbyist. That bench was in an even smaller closet. Unfortunately I have no photos of it.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=183895;image)
Can you tell me where you got the lamp that is mounted on the wall?
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Sometimes the small changes can make quite the difference.
Added double outlet which is easily accessible from the front and by utilizing some junk metal plate, screws and heatshrink tubes I also built a simple soldering gun holder.
Soldering gun weights 0.8kg so having a dedicated place is a good idea, keeping order and making sure this thing won't fall off the bench.
I love that soldering gun - presumably, not the one you use for SMT components? :D
I have a Weller soldering gun that sometimes is the best for e.g. heavy cables etc.
For SMT I use weller PU81 with 0.2mm tip and the cheap chinese hotair gun.
Soldering guns are awesome for soldering bigger THT like power components or cables.
And I can work in tight spaces without burning wires/plastic all over the place.
I do have a high power soldering iron but it takes forever to heat up, this thing is instant and goes through everything I throw at it.
And no tips to worry about, I can abuse the thing.
Just give the cooper wire a short but tight twist right at the end using pliers.
It takes quite some time to dissolve the cooper, while straight wire doesn't really last that long.
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I got it from a place called Wayfair.com on eBay around 10 years ago for about $170. It's an Aven Inc. #26516-D155 "Magna Deluxe 20" Fluorescent Lamp". Unfortunately, I don't think it's available any more.
This is not where I spent my first 10 years as an electronics hobbyist. That bench was in an even smaller closet. Unfortunately I have no photos of it.
Can you tell me where you got the lamp that is mounted on the wall?
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I got it from a place called Wayfair.com on eBay around 10 years ago for about $170. It's an Aven Inc. #26516-D155 "Magna Deluxe 20" Fluorescent Lamp". Unfortunately, I don't think it's available any more.
This is not where I spent my first 10 years as an electronics hobbyist. That bench was in an even smaller closet. Unfortunately I have no photos of it.
Can you tell me where you got the lamp that is mounted on the wall?
Looks like a modern version of the classic Dazor... I have the Dazor in my lab, super practical and ultra cool retro!
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1214284)
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Regarding wall or ceiling mounted spring mounts for lights (and other bits and pieces), it's something I've been on the look out for for a while. They're the only thing that interests me about the dentists.
Pretty much all reasonably priced mounts are designed for desk mounting.
So I'm up for suggestions, including modification options from the more mechanically minded among us.
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Regarding wall or ceiling mounted spring mounts for lights (and other bits and pieces), it's something I've been on the look out for for a while. They're the only thing that interests me about the dentists.
Pretty much all reasonably priced mounts are designed for desk mounting.
So I'm up for suggestions, including modification options from the more mechanically minded among us.
A nice sturdy 90 degree bent piece of 1/4 in steel should do the trick?
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Regarding wall or ceiling mounted spring mounts for lights (and other bits and pieces), it's something I've been on the look out for for a while. They're the only thing that interests me about the dentists.
Pretty much all reasonably priced mounts are designed for desk mounting.
So I'm up for suggestions, including modification options from the more mechanically minded among us.
A nice sturdy 90 degree bent piece of 1/4 in steel should do the trick?
The problem is that the springs and joints aren't designed to work at any level other than about desk height, and the springs are setup for gravity in one direction only. Once you raise the base, the lamp itself won't reach down. It needs fettling of some sort on the spring arm itself.
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It's quite some time ago that I've posted some pictures of my lab, so here's
a rather rare view of my lab (with all the usual clutter removed):
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1218712;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1218714;image)
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It's quite some time ago that I've posted some pictures of my lab, so here's
a rather rare view of my lab (with all the usual clutter removed):
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1218712;image)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1218714;image)
That is a very tidy setup, Captain. I use the same idea with a table in front of a shelf arrangement, it is unbeatable for flexibility (and exercise, when you get to crawl around on the floor digging stuff out).
I have my shelves about 60cm - 70cm away from the wall, so I can walk behind the shelving (open at the back) which makes it easier to connect cables to the back of the instruments.
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That is a very tidy setup, Captain. I use the same idea with a table in front of a shelf arrangement, it is unbeatable for flexibility (and exercise, when you get to crawl around on the floor digging stuff out).
I have my shelves about 60cm - 70cm away from the wall, so I can walk behind the shelving (open at the back) which makes it easier to connect cables to the back of the instruments.
Thanks!
Yes, there's space behind the shelves, too.
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A few older shop pictures.
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I have my shelves about 60cm - 70cm away from the wall, so I can walk behind the shelving (open at the back) which makes it easier to connect cables to the back of the instruments.
Ack! Here I am preparing to set up a new lab space in a spare room, and I hadn't thought of that. There _is_ room.
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I have my shelves about 60cm - 70cm away from the wall, so I can walk behind the shelving (open at the back) which makes it easier to connect cables to the back of the instruments.
Ack! Here I am preparing to set up a new lab space in a spare room, and I hadn't thought of that. There _is_ room.
I have been so happy with it.... it makes it easy enough to reconfigure boat anchor test equipment for different projects that it doesn't act as a "barrier to entry" to try some crazy idea...
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A few older shop pictures.
Please tell me more about the surface. Is this carpet on the desk? :-+
What is the benefit? No scratches on a case surface? No sweaty arms sticking to the desk?
What about scorched areas around the solder iron?
Cheers
hammy
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A few older shop pictures.
Please tell me more about the surface. Is this carpet on the desk? :-+
What is the benefit? No scratches on a case surface? No sweaty arms sticking to the desk?
What about scorched areas around the solder iron?
Cheers
hammy
Is works well for working on expensive electronics, no scratches etc. Also screws and parts will not roll of the bench. I haven't had any problems with burnt areas around the soldering station and have been doing carpet for years on my benches.
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I inquired the Admin team regarding this:
I'm currently the top moderator in a subreddit called MakerLabStations (https://www.reddit.com/r/MakerLabStations/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MakerLabStations/)) that is what this thread is but in the reddit website.
Currently is a small subreddit, with less than 2.5k users (since creation in September 2020), and no more than 20 or 30 posts. As solo moderator I can say that the requests for moderation are based in 5 or 6 in the total life of the subreddit, with one banned user because of continuous self promotion without further interaction other than promoting his own Youtube channel. So people there are well mannered and the conversation don't derail from the objective of it (plus the rules are kinda self explanatory regarding politics and off topic).
I would ask kindly if any user for some reason have a reddit account could post there their own LabStation, kinda like is done here and subscribe to it please. It would help to grow it and create a lot more diversity in the posts (and serve the subreddit to more people by being show in the side bar, kinda like Youtube serves your videos the more interaction you have with your own community and views). If not then is OK anyway, no hard feelings.
Thank you for the time taken to read this request.
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I have often thought that covering walls with carpet would be a great idea. The problem with carpeted bench tops that I would be concerned about is static electricity.
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An old TV repairman's trick. You often want to put the CRT face down, and carpet on the bench saves it getting scratched.
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An old TV repairman's trick. You often want to put the CRT face down, and carpet on the bench saves it getting scratched.
That approach sure helped mummify this old Apple monitor.
Been meaning to ask. Does anyone know the specifics of the faulty diode?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzba3iV2nxA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzba3iV2nxA)
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I have often thought that covering walls with carpet would be a great idea. The problem with carpeted bench tops that I would be concerned about is static electricity.
You would be copying the Russians in that regard.
They are most known for this trend of putting carpets on the walls.
Also this trend did spread across the entire eastern bloc, even my grandparents had carpets on the walls.
My old-new equipment addition.
I decided to rebuild my PL504 + PCF82 150-400V 100mA power supply.
Panel meters (voltmeter is 100V shifted) from USSR, a metal case and some small changes in the construction like stabilised 100V PCF82 pentode cathode bias.
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I will probably repeat myself, but construction like this isdangerous. You have exposed unprotected very high surface temperatures (well, obviously the tubes are exposed poking outside). You can not only injure yourself by accidentally touching it, you could start a fire when something flammable will touch it.
Broken glass envelope also makes for an accessible high voltages. to the touch.
Please, do not build instrumentation like this. Hide the tubes inside, or make covers for them.
I know I sound like some safety nazi, but no, this is just simple and practical thinking.
And lastly - you just can't put any other instrument on top of this one - think about your future lab growth :)
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I will probably repeat myself, but construction like this isdangerous. You have exposed unprotected very high surface temperatures (well, obviously the tubes are exposed poking outside). You can not only injure yourself by accidentally touching it, you could start a fire when something flammable will touch it.
Broken glass envelope also makes for an accessible high voltages. to the touch.
Please, do not build instrumentation like this. Hide the tubes inside, or make covers for them.
I know I sound like some safety nazi, but no, this is just simple and practical thinking.
And lastly - you just can't put any other instrument on top of this one - think about your future lab growth :)
There's some people you need to advise over on the Audio and HiFi Forums...
McBryce.
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Well, if you look at professionally made amplifiers, they all have covers. They must have. Otherwise, they are unlikely to be certified as safe to use. Sometimes, you can dismantle covers to experience the warmth of the sound, but that is on your own risk.
For showing off and impressing your friends with an t00b amplifier, I can kind of tolerate, but for a general purpose lab instrument - hide the tube inside, make the instrument inherently idiotensicher und bombenfest.
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Well, if you look at professionally made amplifiers, they all have covers. They must have. Otherwise, they are unlikely to be certified as safe to use.
I have seen some exotic tube amps with no cover at all. I have no idea how the reach showrooms, because they look very unsafe.
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For showing off and impressing your friends with an t00b amplifier, I can kind of tolerate, but for a general purpose lab instrument - hide the tube inside, make the instrument inherently idiotensicher und bombenfest.
Oh hell, let them show and glow. ;D If you go sticking your fingers in there it's your own fault. :P
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/Bm8ixP.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnBm8ixPj)
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Commercial tube amps usually come with cages or covers to protect the tubes. But they often seem made to be easily removable to show off the tubes.
Well, if you look at professionally made amplifiers, they all have covers. They must have. Otherwise, they are unlikely to be certified as safe to use.
I have seen some exotic tube amps with no cover at all. I have no idea how the reach showrooms, because they look very unsafe.
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Pretty much all reasonably priced mounts are designed for desk mounting.
So I'm up for suggestions, including modification options from the more mechanically minded among us.
I like Luxo magnifying lamps. They have better springs and joints than the typical cheap mounts, and stay in place better. I've got about 4 of them in one form or another, and they all have a simple post about 1/2" diameter at the fixed end. This can be pushed into a floor base, a shelf clamp or a wall bracket. They're very popular in the medical world and at least a couple of mine are ex-hospital. I think they're the industrial side of the well known Anglepoise company.
I'd suggest you look out for one of these - or even buy one new, the latest mag lamp is rectangular and huge .
Another option (and perhaps also a source for ex-hospital lamps) is an operating theatre lamp. Tend to be a bit big and hot but you might find something suitable. Keep an eye on Hilditch auctioneers, and ideally visit a general auction there in person once that's allowed again.
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Sometimes, you can dismantle covers to experience the warmth of the sound, but that is on your own risk.
You're drifting into Audiophoolery territory here! :D Or are you joking?
As for the test equipment: The equipment is meant for people who know what they are doing. If exposed tubes are a danger to the person, maybe the person shouldn't be near electronics at all. It's like putting guardrails around the edge of an Olympic swimming pool in case the competitors fall in and drown.
McBryce.
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This is a void argument. Electrical safety code applies even to lab equipment or equipment used by knowledgeable personal. It really makes no difference, if it is a TV for home use or specialized equipment for electronics lab.
I think one of the applicable limits is 45 °C maximum surface temperature. ;)
That is for example why heatsinks poking outside of enclosures on some power supplies may have additional covers on them to make them inaccessible to the touch.
//EDIT: Okay, maybe my knowledge of this subject is a bit outdated, seems it changed a lot since I have last been interested: Now governed by IEC 60950-1. You can look that one up. Temperatures up to 100 °C seem to be allowed under specific conditions, but the tubes poking through the top of that diy device does not fall under such conditions by any means. a) they are larger than 5cm and b) likely to be touched and finally c) way over 100 deg C, especially the output pentode ;)
So sorry, ain't gonna happen, regardless if it is for "people who know what they are doing", as obviously the do not know, if they are building stuff violating code :P
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This is a void argument. Electrical safety code applies even to lab equipment or equipment used by knowledgeable personal. It really makes no difference, if it is a TV for home use or specialized equipment for electronics lab.
I think one of the applicable limits is 45 °C maximum surface temperature. ;)
That is for example why heatsinks poking outside of enclosures on some power supplies may have additional covers on them to make them inaccessible to the touch.
//EDIT: Okay, maybe my knowledge of this subject is a bit outdated, seems it changed a lot since I have last been interested: Now governed by IEC 60950-1. You can look that one up. Temperatures up to 100 °C seem to be allowed under specific conditions, but the tubes poking through the top of that diy device does not fall under such conditions by any means. a) they are larger than 5cm and b) likely to be touched and finally c) way over 100 deg C, especially the output pentode ;)
So sorry, ain't gonna happen, regardless if it is for "people who know what they are doing", as obviously the do not know, if they are building stuff violating code :P
I think you have your panties on too tight and need to loosen them a little. No one here is advocating that we operate equipment in an unsafe manner. I think we all understand the concepts of electrical safety and operating in a sane manner. But what we do in the privacy of our own labs is our business and sometimes involves "acceptable risk". But I for one would never expose someone unfamiliar with my equipment to a potential hazard. And I don't think anyone else in here would either. In essence your lecture is preaching to the choir.
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We are drifting a bit off-topic, but all I wanted to point out such dangerous and impractical engineering should not be done, even for diy instrumentation. It does not take a lot for (avoidable) accident to happen, be it just burned hand, or whole house burned down.
Now please continue sending lab photos, I appreciate them. But please, keep safety in mind. Burned down lab is the last thing any of us wants. Same with safely operating devices under test, especially the high voltage or high powered ones. I've already experienced a 5 kW PFC controller blown almost in my face...
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Come on, guys. Give the man a break. He's just concerned about our safety.
Now, jumping on the off-topic bandwagon, let's not forget that the first radios had their tubes exposed, like the 1920s Crosley Pup
(https://image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/AuctionTeamBreker/36/563436/H1256-L71370110.jpg)
It is "unsafe", but hey, nostalgia is in the air.
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I'm quite sure I saw many proffesional semiconductor power supplies from the 1970's with exposed outside radiators and those can go well beyond the 45°C.
Only thing was that they were at the back of the device. Same as my current 0-30V 6A supply.
Even my schlumberger scope has such a radiator at the back, though I wouldn't say it's very hot.
With such DIY tube equipment the main problem is that most modern cases won't tolerate such heat well and would otherwise have to be really big to have some breathing room (there's a good reason those tube scopes had powerful fans).
And PL504, like many output pentodes (including your typical audio tubes), is hot as hell.
I feel more confident with tubes outside in cool air, than inside where it can melt/burn some stuff inside the device.
I'm more likely to poke my finger into the soldering iron, that the tube, which currently sits beyond the reach of my hand.
And even then, burning your finger is not as much of a issue as possibly getting a solid shock from the 150-400V DC output which can become live when you connect the oscilloscope ground somewhere in the powered circuit.
Same safety precautions as when using isolation transformers.
You cannot really make this stuff 100% "safe".
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keep in mind with the first radios people did not know what electricity was, there was knob wiring, when you saw that you basically thought it was magic and likely you eared a good paycheck if you had it. The reason it was safe is because your dad would probobly punch you in the mouth if you broke the tube so there was a force field around it. I think being too close to that was like being too close to a 70 inch plasma in 2005 or whatever
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The Crosley Pup sold for $9.75 back then, which is $130 in today's money. If you're lucky to still find one on the net, it'll cost you approximately that amount of money. If you have $130 to spend on an obsolete piece of equipment, you probably earn a good paycheck. And you'll at least want to punch in the mouth anyone that breaks the unobtainium tube that comes with it. The force field is apparently still in place, bro.
So, it was safe back then. It is safe now.
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My battleground
(https://i.ibb.co/NYfGKyY/IMG-20210525-143307.jpg)
currently trying to get a motorised pot to talk to a relay ladder attenuator
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I have added shelves to my desk. I'm very glad for the additional room. Now my test equipment is easily accessible and not taking up space on the desk. On the top shelf I have stackable plastic bins that I got used for cheap. They are Akro-Mills part number 30-240. They are great because I can literally throw pens / components / rolls of tape into the appropriate bin without getting up from my chair.
Next steps:
I quickly realized that I need to put my most used tools (screwdriver, flush cutters, needlenose, scissors, strippers, etc.) in holders front and center, so I'm going to see what others have done. My cheap (USD33) magnifying lamp works great but I need more lighting. I think I may add something on the ceiling. I'm not really interested in undershelf lighting.
I'll subdivide the equipment shelf so that I can start stacking my test equipment. I'm not sure if building in 19" racks and shelves is the way to go, or just random shelves. I've got more test equipment on other shelves I'd like to put in the lab (and more on the way).
I'm also interested in putting in a "big red button" to shut off the lab, and also a GFCI (aka RCD). Most outlets in the USA are single-phase 120V. I have a dream of running two-phase 240V to the lab so I can power devices that accept it.
Construction:
My desk is constructed of extra/scrap wood I had laying around. I did end up buying some 1.5"x2.5" boards for the shelves because I forgot that I already have a bunch of 2x4s. This ended up being a good thing because the 2x4s would have been overkill and taken up space. The shelves still pass "the duckduck test" (I'm over 100kg).
I attached the vertical beams using pocket hole joinery. I used a jig from Kreg (KregTool.com). There are screws on both the inner (shown) and outer (not shown) sides of the vertical supports. N.B. the horizontal beams that run the full length of the shelves are supported directly by the vertical beams. Resist the temptation to screw shelves to the sides of the vertical supports. The 45° braces prevent side-to-side wobble. The whole thing is rock solid. I considered adding vertical supports mid-span, but they aren't needed until I join TEA and start buying vintage American iron.
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Caught this article on home labs of the stars.
https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/articles/2045-home-labs-of-the-stars (https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/articles/2045-home-labs-of-the-stars)
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Caught this article on home labs of the stars.
https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/articles/2045-home-labs-of-the-stars (https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/articles/2045-home-labs-of-the-stars)
Actually many of them are fairly modest setups. Goes to show you don't need a tower of test equipment to do many projects.
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This guys gear racks need posting here.
1st: Miscellaneous VNAs and FRAs Bode 100 and injector kit from Picotest in center stage!
2nd: RF Rohde &Schwarz plus an interloping Anritsu. Symmetricom 10MHz master reference oscillator and GPS disciplined setup still need to be plumbed in.
3rd: Scopes from: R&S 4GHz RTO1044 including Logic Analyzer option; LeCroy 1GHz HDO6104 12bit; LeCroy 1GHz HDO8108 12bit with logic analyzer option; numerous AC/DC current probes from LeCroy and Tek not shown.
4th: Audio Analyzers aplenty. Sound Technology, Audio Precision SYS-2722, R&S UPV, Tek AM700, Audio Precision ATS1 &2
5th: Semiconductor Analysis with thermal chamber on top; HP4145B w/plotter; Keithley 590 CV analyzer and 237 HV SMU.
6th: DC precision rack. With Fluke Voltage Standard on top. Then 4 seven decade Kelvin Varley dividers from Fluke and ESI and 3 HP 3458A 8-1/2 digit bench meters. (3 of them permits voting...)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1222261;image)
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Looks fancy, but he obviously only collects gear to look at. As it's set up there most of the devices would be completely unusable.
McBryce.
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Looks fancy, but he obviously only collects gear to look at. As it's set up there most of the devices would be completely unusable.
Exactly what I thought ... others would have posters from Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Magazine in their man-cave ... he seems to have a different fetish ;D
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Looks fancy, but he obviously only collects gear to look at. As it's set up there most of the devices would be completely unusable.
Exactly what I thought ... others would have posters from Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Magazine in their man-cave ... he seems to have a different fetish ;D
I wonder how or where the megaphone (atop the black cab) fits in with all this intemperance.
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Looks fancy, but he obviously only collects gear to look at. As it's set up there most of the devices would be completely unusable.
Exactly what I thought ... others would have posters from Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Magazine in their man-cave ... he seems to have a different fetish ;D
I wonder how or where the megaphone (atop the black cab) fits in with all this intemperance.
He probably needs it when all the equipment fans are running
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Caught this article on home labs of the stars.
https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/articles/2045-home-labs-of-the-stars (https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/articles/2045-home-labs-of-the-stars)
Actually many of them are fairly modest setups. Goes to show you don't need a tower of test equipment to do many projects.
We should really have a separate sub-thread: "Best Minimalist Home Lab"
At an extreme, you could do a lot with just a Digilent Analog Discovery 2 and not much else (provided you have a PC), the "lab" would pack away in a desk drawer when not in use!
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Caught this article on home labs of the stars.
https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/articles/2045-home-labs-of-the-stars (https://www.signalintegrityjournal.com/articles/2045-home-labs-of-the-stars)
Actually many of them are fairly modest setups. Goes to show you don't need a tower of test equipment to do many projects.
We should really have a separate sub-thread: "Best Minimalist Home Lab"
That's like posting a "Best Low-Horsepower Amateur Dragster" thread on the National Hot-Rod Association forum. ;)
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We should really have a separate sub-thread: "Best Minimalist Home Lab"
We kinda do, I guess.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/amphour/468-the-tiny-lab-movement/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/amphour/468-the-tiny-lab-movement/)
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We should really have a separate sub-thread: "Best Minimalist Home Lab"
We kinda do, I guess.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/amphour/468-the-tiny-lab-movement/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/amphour/468-the-tiny-lab-movement/)
Not sure Mr. Carlson's lab qualifies as "minimalist"! :D
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That would be equipment hoardist too ;D
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Sorry. I forgot to say that the thread is about people with tiny labs and a sense of humor.
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When it comes to electronics there's a lot you can do in a small space without a lot of equipment. I spent my first 15 years as a hobbyist in a closet. Eventually I had to move out, but for a long time all I had for equipment was home-made power supplies, a couple of cheap multimeters, some breadboards, and a Radio Shack soldering iron.
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My lab started out as a 10 m² room of our backyard guest/annex house in the seventies, underwent several incarnations and ended up in a 50 m² garage in the mid '90s. Then I had to drastically downsize it, and it became a portable lab. I even took it on a vacation trip. I resurrected it as a med6753-style lab, where you don't know where the lab ends and the rest of the house begins. I would attribute something like 5 exclusive m² to it now.
This is med6753's lab.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/d07jBs.jpg)
Mine is not that tidy.
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That's an older pix and doesn't show all of it. This is more recent.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/ljb3cu.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnljb3cuj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/NM1aHB.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/poNM1aHBj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/cr1gOR.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pncr1gORj)
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It is surprisingly handy to have a bed near the lab area... for when you realize it's 4am and u need a break! :D
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It is surprisingly handy to have a bed near the lab area... for when you realize it's 4am and u need a break! :D
The bedroom is a separate room but yes, it's only a few steps away. ;D
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Looks fancy, but he obviously only collects gear to look at. As it's set up there most of the devices would be completely unusable.
McBryce.
I have a much smaller setup and a lot more mess. The equipment is stacked on wire shelves. I keep some PCB material that I shove under the equipment for a shelf to hold what ever I am working on. I also have a small portable table that I will set next to the equipment I am using. It looks like an episode of Hoarders. In their case, they may pull down the equipment when needed. Or, as you say, they just look at it.
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It is surprisingly handy to have a bed near the lab area... for when you realize it's 4am and u need a break! :D
Funny! I will be probably in the same situation! Since I have moved, I will more than likely have my lab shared with a bedroom. The flat just needs some reconstruction and remodeling work...
At first I thought it to be a bad idea, but well... there is really no place else to put the lab. Also means, I need to downsize my lab, or at least make much more efficient use of available space.
Moving from house to a flat always suxxx!
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It is surprisingly handy to have a bed near the lab area... for when you realize it's 4am and u need a break! :D
My mancave lab is in the wife's walk-in wardrobe. It was a quid pro quo, she wouldn't let me re-purpose the dining room that was originally earmarked for it because it has a nice view.
Since this covid thing though, as I'm mostly WFH now, I've rather taken a liking to the dining room too, for when I don't go full gear.
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Now, jumping on the off-topic bandwagon, let's not forget that the first radios had their tubes exposed, like the 1920s Crosley Pup
Compared to today lots of stuff in the 1920s was unsafe. Cars didn't have seatbelts or airbags, house wiring didn't have safety grounds or GFCIs, etc.
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Compared to today lots of stuff in the 1920s was unsafe. Cars didn't have seatbelts or airbags, house wiring didn't have safety grounds or GFCIs, etc.
True. But that's not what we're talking about. The Crosley Pup operated on just two batteries: a 22.5V and a 1.5V battery. The tube didn't pose any significant risk. No more than your cell phone, whose battery can catch fire in your pocket. Tubes are not automatically unsafe just because they are exposed. And that's the point.
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Not my workshop, unfortunately, but a good solution to a shortage of instrument space.
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Yes, eliminating gravity would solve my space shortage problem too :D
McBryce.
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Work surfaces multiplied by 6, but problems of losing small parts cubed.
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The problem will be cubed, but of a different kind:
(https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/T43LBICUTII6RK6YEZN5A6UYLE.jpg)
How do you manage to keep small parts from floating around. And solder blobs, flux, debris, etc.
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If you lose an SMD register, it might take out someone else's satellite.
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2021 Update LOL was organizing programmers.
(https://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/CT_Pilot_PGMERS-SNR-S-1024x576.jpg)
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That image made me laugh, how the hell a Dyson is going to work there...
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Well obviously a vacuum cleaner is for cleaning vacuum, duh.
Though I am not sure why the carpet attachment is best in that situation.
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I quickly realized that I need to put my most used tools (screwdriver, flush cutters, needlenose, scissors, strippers, etc.) in holders front and center, so I'm going to see what others have done.
Well, until I can figure out the "right" way to keep my tools, I have assembled some tool holders out of extra 4x4s and spare holes. I thought it best to stick with the "did you make that yourself?" aesthetic so as to not look out of place on the scrap-wood desk.
Included in the picture are the original Craftsman (Uhmairicuuuh!) screwdrivers and Torx drivers that I bought with my own money to service PCs back when servicing PCs was a viable, albeit not very lucrative, profession.
N.B. the "15" and "20" on the ends of the Torx drivers I drew with a "Wite-Out" pen almost 30 years ago. Those digits have held up remarkably well.
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You just need to iterate your 4x4 design now ;)
Version one tool holder was cut with a handsaw then drilled and filed and sanded (before I got my Laser Cutter and 3DP's).
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/keeping-yourself-_nice_-workbench-tidying-storage-and-management/?action=dlattach;attach=370051;image)
I need to do something about my other bench pliers that are on a very clunky cup hook and timber strips on the side of my Soldering Stations along the lines of the 3D Printed V2 Lindstrom/Driver rack but it works so not on a list of any sort.
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I quickly realized that I need to put my most used tools (screwdriver, flush cutters, needlenose, scissors, strippers, etc.) in holders front and center, so I'm going to see what others have done.
Well, until I can figure out the "right" way to keep my tools, I have assembled some tool holders out of extra 4x4s and spare holes. I thought it best to stick with the "did you make that yourself?" aesthetic so as to not look out of place on the scrap-wood desk.
Included in the picture are the original Craftsman (Uhmairicuuuh!) screwdrivers and Torx drivers that I bought with my own money to service PCs back when servicing PCs was a viable, albeit not very lucrative, profession.
N.B. the "15" and "20" on the ends of the Torx drivers I drew with a "Wite-Out" pen almost 30 years ago. Those digits have held up remarkably well.
I like this idea. If you wanted to make it look fancier, you could sand / paint the blocks. Easy enough to make a new one if your tool kit changes!
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You just need to iterate your 4x4 design now ;)
Version one tool holder was cut with a handsaw then drilled and filed and sanded (before I got my Laser Cutter and 3DP's).
Epoxy and other chemicals stored right next to window. Will UV from sun degrade the chemicals?
I have a bedspread five feet from a window with no direct sun on it, and it is 50% faded on side closest to window. :(
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You just need to iterate your 4x4 design now ;)
Version one tool holder was cut with a handsaw then drilled and filed and sanded (before I got my Laser Cutter and 3DP's).
Epoxy and other chemicals stored right next to window. Will UV from sun degrade the chemicals?
I have a bedspread five feet from a window with no direct sun on it, and it is 50% faded on side closest to window. :(
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Faces due South so not much of an issue. Also helps if you turnover the glues like I do :)
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The device's case left side on the top right shelf will yellow because it receives UV, no matter which side the window is facing.
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That can worry the next guy when I depart the world in a few decades
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Epoxies can breakdown if exposed to UV, but it pretty much needs to be direct sunlight.
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Hello guys,
Thought I would share some images of my home lab workspace with you, there are some great use of spaces on this thread and some ingenious ideas that I would have never thought!
I feel that my work space is easy to use and laid out well for those big boned among us ;D
Really pleased with the JBC soldering equipment it's just so nice to use, with their superb range of tips and package removal tools plus the custom design service, should have looked at this brand years ago, but hey hidsight is wonderful thing.
We are geared up for specilist power supply design & build, audio and the odd green energy project, so a lot of the equipment is centred around these areas.
It has taken around two and half years to bring the home lab up to this standard, like everyone else you seek the best deals for your needs.
Between here and the works lab:
Scopes: Lecroy Wavepro 254 4Ghz, Lecory MDA8020 2Ghz, Lecroy HDO6000A (B model due soon) 500Mhz Lecroy Wavesurfer 4000HD 200Mhz, Rigol MSO8000 2.3Ghz (Tv84 enhanced)
Forteen Lecroy probes and eight Rigol probes both brands with fully digital probe looms as well.
RF work: Rigol RSA 5065 TG (TV84 enhanced), Siglent SVA 1015X, Agilent VSA E4433B 4Ghz
DC LISN x2, LISN mate, AC LISN, RF Current probes, full range of RF EMC sniffer probes and three rf amplifiers, various antenna’s RF dummy loads X3 various sizes, various attenuators and transient limiters. Impedance convertors and VSWR bridge 8Ghz
Signal generators: Tek AFG31000 250Mhz 2G/s, Rigol DG822 (TV84 enhanced) 100 Mhz, Rhode & Schwartz APN-62 low frequency unit 0Hz-260Khz
Power analysers: Tektronix PA1000, Keysight N6705C, (two modules Precision 17amp 60V psu and sink) two Lecroy RP4030 rail probes and two cp030A (1ma resolution current probes)
Power supplies: Keysight E36313A, Temma 30V 10amp cheapy but robust daily driver, Kikusui PCR500M a/c supply, a quality variac 10 amps 240Vac. Plus various ultra low 5 amp 16ua ripple current custom construction linear units.
DC loads: GW Instek PEL-3031E: Keysight EL34243A dual load, plus various constructed passive loads ranging pto 20 amps, these are so much quieter tha the active loads for EMC work
Reference refernce clock system 10Mhz ultra low phase noise -122dbc@1hz Mutec SE-120
Audio analyser Rhode & Schwartz UPV66 with ALL options (curtesy of TV84) except the ultra low singal generator which I could puchase a DMM7510 for the same cost!!!
Multi meters: Keithley DMM7510, Keithley DMM6500 Fluke 115
LCR devices Microtest 6366 500khz precision LCR meter with various adapters, Peak LCR45 and Peak Atas Pro DCA75 device tester
Soldering: JBC DDE 2 tools precision tweezers and de-soldering station, C2EV10 soldering station around 30 tips of various configuration.
Flir E8 infra-red camera.
A lot of T flex 405 cabling both N type and BNC terminations, plus more bench test power leads than I can shake a stick at which have been made up over the years.
Only a couple of changes planned, a new 12 GHZ VNA and another DC load.
The lab is used most day's is a great environment to work in.
Thanks for reading
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Sorry about a two post, the images are just on the limit so the remaining ones are attached here.
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Nice equipment. So the top of your bench is a metal grounded plate? Interesting. :popcorn:
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Nice equipment. So the top of your bench is a metal grounded plate? Interesting. :popcorn:
Yeah I was just thinking the same, TE and lab is just super sweet, but those surfaces must cause some serious fatigue.
We used to have clean room with stainless steel bench top with clear hood and It was very uncomfortable to work on it for even few hours straight. Nice ESD mats would make a difference IMO.
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Hello guys,
Thought I would share some images of my home lab workspace with you, there are some great use of spaces on this thread and some ingenious ideas that I would have never thought!
I feel that my work space is easy to use and laid out well for those big boned among us ;D
Really pleased with the JBC soldering equipment it's just so nice to use, with their superb range of tips and package removal tools plus the custom design service, should have looked at this brand years ago, but hey hidsight is wonderful thing.
We are geared up for specilist power supply design & build, audio and the odd green energy project, so a lot of the equipment is centred around these areas.
It has taken around two and half years to bring the home lab up to this standard, like everyone else you seek the best deals for your needs.
Between here and the works lab:
Scopes: Lecroy Wavepro 254 4Ghz, Lecory MDA8020 2Ghz, Lecroy HDO6000A (B model due soon) 500Mhz Lecroy Wavesurfer 4000HD 200Mhz, Rigol MSO8000 2.3Ghz (Tv84 enhanced)
Forteen Lecroy probes and eight Rigol probes both brands with fully digital probe looms as well.
RF work: Rigol RSA 5065 TG (TV84 enhanced), Siglent SVA 1015X, Agilent VSA E4433B 4Ghz
DC LISN x2, LISN mate, AC LISN, RF Current probes, full range of RF EMC sniffer probes and three rf amplifiers, various antenna’s RF dummy loads X3 various sizes, various attenuators and transient limiters. Impedance convertors and VSWR bridge 8Ghz
Signal generators: Tek AFG31000 250Mhz 2G/s, Rigol DG822 (TV84 enhanced) 100 Mhz, Rhode & Schwartz APN-62 low frequency unit 0Hz-260Khz
Power analysers: Tektronix PA1000, Keysight N6705C, (two modules Precision 17amp 60V psu and sink) two Lecroy RP4030 rail probes and two cp030A (1ma resolution current probes)
Power supplies: Keysight E36313A, Temma 30V 10amp cheapy but robust daily driver, Kikusui PCR500M a/c supply, a quality variac 10 amps 240Vac. Plus various ultra low 5 amp 16ua ripple current custom construction linear units.
DC loads: GW Instek PEL-3031E: Keysight EL34243A dual load, plus various constructed passive loads ranging pto 20 amps, these are so much quieter tha the active loads for EMC work
Reference refernce clock system 10Mhz ultra low phase noise -122dbc@1hz Mutec SE-120
Audio analyser Rhode & Schwartz UPV66 with ALL options (curtesy of TV84) except the ultra low singal generator which I could puchase a DMM7510 for the same cost!!!
Multi meters: Keithley DMM7510, Keithley DMM6500 Fluke 115
LCR devices Microtest 6366 500khz precision LCR meter with various adapters, Peak LCR45 and Peak Atas Pro DCA75 device tester
Soldering: JBC DDE 2 tools precision tweezers and de-soldering station, C2EV10 soldering station around 30 tips of various configuration.
Flir E8 infra-red camera.
A lot of T flex 405 cabling both N type and BNC terminations, plus more bench test power leads than I can shake a stick at which have been made up over the years.
Only a couple of changes planned, a new 12 GHZ VNA and another DC load.
The lab is used most day's is a great environment to work in.
Thanks for reading
This lab should be 18+ only, cos this is some serious TE porn going on here :popcorn: :scared: 8)
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June 2021 Added a Siglent SDM3065X DMM
(https://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/20210618_1134421-1024x576.jpg)
When you Organize the Programmer Cabinet.
(https://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/CT_Pilot_PGMERS-SNR-S-1024x576.jpg)
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June 2021 Added a Siglent SDM3065X DMM
(https://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/20210618_1134421-1024x576.jpg)
When you Organize the Programmer Cabinet.
(https://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/CT_Pilot_PGMERS-SNR-S-1024x576.jpg)
Just out of curiosity, what do you do with so many soldering irons?
Are you using all of them?
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szszoke, Some times I have 3 going at once.
I also have 2 more FM-202's and a 937 the cabinet also! LOL Who's a Pack Rat?
And Getting Lazy..
https://youtu.be/CxFOwWqzLEA
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Just out of curiosity, what do you do with so many soldering irons?
Are you using all of them?
You must be new here. ;D One cannot have too many DMM's, counters, scopes, generators, or soldering irons. :popcorn:
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Just out of curiosity, what do you do with so many soldering irons?
Are you using all of them?
You must be new here. ;D One cannot have too many DMM's, counters, scopes, generators, or soldering irons. :popcorn:
One iron for each hand. Balancing your feet up on the bench can be tricky. Mind the solder splash.
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Just out of curiosity, what do you do with so many soldering irons?
Are you using all of them?
You must be new here. ;D One cannot have too many DMM's, counters, scopes, generators, or soldering irons. :popcorn:
Indeed I am!
I could imagine scenarios where I would want to set up a test jig or leave instruments running overnight for some task and do something else in the meantime but I couldn't imagine something similar for soldering irons.
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szszoke, Some times I have 3 going at once.
I also have 2 more FM-202's and a 937 the cabinet also! LOL Who's a Pack Rat?
And Getting Lazy..
https://youtu.be/CxFOwWqzLEA
Nice!
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There may be reasons for having more than one soldering iron. Even if i have a hot air station, in some cases i use two soldering irons to remove stubborn SMTs. Also, regardless of quick tips swap capabilities, it is convenient to just have two soldering irons with different tip sizes or shapes.
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There may be reasons for having more than one soldering iron. Even if i have a hot air station, in some cases i use two soldering irons to remove stubborn SMTs. Also, regardless of quick tips swap capabilities, it is convenient to just have two soldering irons with different tip sizes or shapes.
Also, how are you going to repair your only soldering iron? :-//
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There may be reasons for having more than one soldering iron. Even if i have a hot air station, in some cases i use two soldering irons to remove stubborn SMTs. Also, regardless of quick tips swap capabilities, it is convenient to just have two soldering irons with different tip sizes or shapes.
I guess that makes sense if you do a lot of soldering.
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I guess that makes sense if you do a lot of soldering.
Some of us do a lot of solder work!!
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I guess that makes sense if you do a lot of soldering.
Some of us do a lot of solder work!!
What does your average day look like in your lab?
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Not your standard bench, but living in a small apartment means i don't have the luxury of having a garage to tinker in!
For fun I DJ and design audio electronics and do the odd repair for friends (dj mixers, guitar amps, effects units, etc). You can find some of the things I do in my signature :)
(https://cardinia.net/assets/desk.6de53574.jpeg)
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Ok here's my "lab" in corner of room. Not much but big improvement from last year.
After yeas of considering it got myself Rigol DS-1054Z to complement that Hitachi analog scope i already have. And finally got lab power supply that actually has current limit.
Soldering station is actually Thermaltronics TMT-2000S-K. Got to try one in Hacklab and was like, i need to upgrade from that 70 € cheap one i have. Just station was about 200 € on discount and then i bought selection of tips for it in two temperature ranges.
Hacklab is poison to my wallet. Its hard to ignore better equipment once you get to try it and see what it can do.
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Here my rolling electronics tool cabinet lab, works great living in a small one bedroom apartment I store it away when not in use. I build audio equipment, home automation and lighting systems in my spare time, and do z/OS COBOL software development as my day job.
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Here my rolling electronics tool cabinet lab, works great living in a small one bedroom apartment I store it away when not in use. I build audio equipment, home automation and lighting systems in my spare time, and do z/OS COBOL software development as my day job.
I like it.
COBOL, oh I didn't even know that was still in use, but I don't get out much. :)
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Thank you!! and I work at a bank its still heavily used by most financial institutions it works great for processing huge amounts of text data quickly.
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Thank you!! and I work at a bank its still heavily used by most financial institutions it works great for processing huge amounts of text data quickly.
Yea I was just now checking out its modern usage because of your mention of it. Seems that it's going strong and will outlive us, according to what I'm reading. :o
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I know a few COBOL programmers. They are all relatively old and earn a fortune because the script-kiddies falling out of university these days haven't learnt anything about COBOL in their studies :) So COBOL programmers are becoming very rare.
McBryce.
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I know a few COBOL programmers. They are all relatively old and earn a fortune because the script-kiddies falling out of university these days haven't learnt anything about COBOL in their studies :) So COBOL programmers are becoming very rare.
McBryce.
COBOL was the only exam I failed at university back in the mid 80s, which was a bit of a come down as I was quite a wizz at Pascal and assembly language. I never went to any of the COBOL lectures except for the first one. Unfortunately, I didn't realise it was an open book exam. I crammed in the 24 hours before the exam, including how to write all the boilerplate cruft from my head (there's an awful lot of it in COBOL), but failed to answer the questions in the way the lecturer wanted, although my code worked. It was simple stuff too, looping formatting etc.
As it was an EE course, I couldn't see the point of doing COBOL, especially as C was at that time very much in vogue and still in its ascendancy. Many lecturers just churn out the same crappy course they've been doing for a decade for undergrads.
"Je ne regrette rien", as Edith Piaf said rather more than once.
Little did I know that as an EE, a good deal of my career has also been tackling enterprise grade RDBMS. It's always good to have multiple strings to your bow.
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Odd they would throw COBOL into an EE stream :-//
When I went through the Engineering Stream did Pascal and Fortran while the Computer mob went Pascal COBOL for opening languages. We then went on to such delights as programming 6800 Micros in Hex on a keypad :palm:
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Odd they would throw COBOL into an EE stream :-//
When I went through the Engineering Stream did Pascal and Fortran while the Computer mob went Pascal COBOL for opening languages. We then went on to such delights as programming 6800 Micros in Hex on a keypad :palm:
Oh yea FORTRAN classes here too but how about DEC PDP-11 assembly? Fun times, but we digress from the thread title. :-DD
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Odd they would throw COBOL into an EE stream :-//
When I went through the Engineering Stream did Pascal and Fortran while the Computer mob went Pascal COBOL for opening languages. We then went on to such delights as programming 6800 Micros in Hex on a keypad :palm:
Oh yea FORTRAN classes here too but how about DEC PDP-11 assembly? Fun times, but we digress from the thread title. :-DD
And Pascal, Qbasic?? :-DD
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Odd they would throw COBOL into an EE stream :-//
When I went through the Engineering Stream did Pascal and Fortran while the Computer mob went Pascal COBOL for opening languages. We then went on to such delights as programming 6800 Micros in Hex on a keypad :palm:
I thought it odd too. To be fair, before I'd got through the door there I was already reasonably proficient in Z80 and 6502 assembler, and had written a few bespoke commercial things in BASIC. The only thing I learned of any value regarding programming at university was structured programming. The maths I found interesting as it gave you multiple ways to achieve the same goal, you just need to choose the best tools for the job, but I'd by lying if I said I've used it regularly. The electronics side was frankly a waste of time, I already knew all of the useful practical bits. Looking back on it, it was a very crap course, but regrettably you really do need those letters after your name to get you past the HR dragons at most places.
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Here my rolling electronics tool cabinet lab, works great living in a small one bedroom apartment I store it away when not in use. I build audio equipment, home automation and lighting systems in my spare time, and do z/OS COBOL software development as my day job.
I like it.
COBOL, oh I didn't even know that was still in use, but I don't get out much. :)
Banks still use mainframes and cobol for their electronic payment systems due to their reliability and easy interaction with huge databases. The thing is that both, the development tools and cobol itself, have evolved a lot since it was created, so they still use it for new developments. The latest cobol standard even supports object oriented programming
It is just like Ada, hated in the mainstream programming community, but appreciated in their respective niches
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This lab is quite something...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWPYoE1SNnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWPYoE1SNnA)
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Who the hell is this guy? Have checked his youtube channel and watched his two latest videos. He seems to have a LOT of money and a huge collection of old technological artefacts. And has a strange accent. (
Tried to quickly google his name, but I am not sure if the results turned back right. Anybody knows who he is?
All I could find from listeningto the 2 videos is that he is from Israel and now lives in Canada. Theres some interesting story hiding somewhere...
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Who the hell is this guy? Have checked his youtube channel and watched his two latest videos. He seems to have a LOT of money and a huge collection of old technological artefacts. And has a strange accent. (
Tried to quickly google his name, but I am not sure if the results turned back right. Anybody knows who he is?
All I could find from listeningto the 2 videos is that he is from Israel and now lives in Canada. Theres some interesting story hiding somewhere...
From his Linkedin page...
"Current activity: Development of technology for metal 3D printing, founder of Rapidia. A co-founder of Kardium (2007), and Ikomed (2011), both in the medical field.
Last venture: Dan is the co-founder (1984), and served as President and Chief Technology Officer of Creo, a company based in British Columbia, Canada, developing laser-based products for the printing industry. In July 2005, Creo was sold to Kodak for 1 billion US$. At the time of the sale Creo had over 4000 employees and was the largest player in its field. A significant portion of Creo’s award-winning technology was developed by Dan.
Previous ventures: Dan also developed patented technology that served as the basis for two local companies: Cymbolic Sciences, in imaging, and MDI, in telecom. Both companies experienced rapid growth and were acquired by large corporations (Schlumberger and Motorola).
Patents: Dan Gelbart has 125 US patents. Cumulative revenues from the products based on these patents are in the billions of dollars to date.
Awards: Awards received by Dan include British Columbia Science Council Gold Medal (twice), Institute of Printing(UK) Gold Medal, Honorary Doctorates (from Simon Fraser University and University of BC), multiple GATF awards, multiple IR100 awards, Reed Technology Medal (for printing), the RIT award, IPEX “Titans of Print” award plus awards from crowdsourcing scientific competitions such as Innocentive (twice).
Hobbies: Collecting old scientific instruments, reading, building things, teaching at the University of BC in the department of Mechanical engineering."
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It is just like Ada, hated in the mainstream programming community, but appreciated in their respective niches
I'd see it happen slightly differently: the vast majority of mainstream programmers only have a single hammer – one of the more popular languages – and advocate treating everything as a nail.
Those who master multiple tools, multiple programming languages and their paradigms, tend to find comfortable niches outside the single-tool mainstream stuff.
Those who master a single niche programming language but still program, tend to be much rarer; and have valuable useful experience in the target domain in other ways than programming.
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"Current activity: Development of technology for metal 3D printing, founder of Rapidia. A co-founder of Kardium (2007), and Ikomed (2011), both in the medical field.
Last venture: Dan is the co-founder (1984), and served as President and Chief Technology Officer of Creo, a company based in British Columbia, Canada, developing laser-based products for the printing industry. In July 2005, Creo was sold to Kodak for 1 billion US$. At the time of the sale Creo had over 4000 employees and was the largest player in its field. A significant portion of Creo’s award-winning technology was developed by Dan.
Previous ventures: Dan also developed patented technology that served as the basis for two local companies: Cymbolic Sciences, in imaging, and MDI, in telecom. Both companies experienced rapid growth and were acquired by large corporations (Schlumberger and Motorola).
Patents: Dan Gelbart has 125 US patents. Cumulative revenues from the products based on these patents are in the billions of dollars to date.
Awards: Awards received by Dan include British Columbia Science Council Gold Medal (twice), Institute of Printing(UK) Gold Medal, Honorary Doctorates (from Simon Fraser University and University of BC), multiple GATF awards, multiple IR100 awards, Reed Technology Medal (for printing), the RIT award, IPEX “Titans of Print” award plus awards from crowdsourcing scientific competitions such as Innocentive (twice).
Hobbies: Collecting old scientific instruments, reading, building things, teaching at the University of BC in the department of Mechanical engineering."[/i]
So there you go boys and girls. You don't get rich by doing same old same old, but by thinking out of the box, exploring the unexplored and pushing things to the limit
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Wow,
This guy is really impressive, I love seeing success stories like this. I jiggled things around a bit in my modest lab today, moved a few pieces after selling some equipment.
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"Current activity: Development of technology for metal 3D printing, founder of Rapidia. A co-founder of Kardium (2007), and Ikomed (2011), both in the medical field.
Last venture: Dan is the co-founder (1984), and served as President and Chief Technology Officer of Creo, a company based in British Columbia, Canada, developing laser-based products for the printing industry. In July 2005, Creo was sold to Kodak for 1 billion US$. At the time of the sale Creo had over 4000 employees and was the largest player in its field. A significant portion of Creo’s award-winning technology was developed by Dan.
Previous ventures: Dan also developed patented technology that served as the basis for two local companies: Cymbolic Sciences, in imaging, and MDI, in telecom. Both companies experienced rapid growth and were acquired by large corporations (Schlumberger and Motorola).
Patents: Dan Gelbart has 125 US patents. Cumulative revenues from the products based on these patents are in the billions of dollars to date.
Awards: Awards received by Dan include British Columbia Science Council Gold Medal (twice), Institute of Printing(UK) Gold Medal, Honorary Doctorates (from Simon Fraser University and University of BC), multiple GATF awards, multiple IR100 awards, Reed Technology Medal (for printing), the RIT award, IPEX “Titans of Print” award plus awards from crowdsourcing scientific competitions such as Innocentive (twice).
Hobbies: Collecting old scientific instruments, reading, building things, teaching at the University of BC in the department of Mechanical engineering."[/i]
So there you go boys and girls. You don't get rich by doing same old same old, but by thinking out of the box, exploring the unexplored and pushing things to the limit
Yep
It also helps to be a student of history including how science turns into technology and business.
This is another interesting one of his videos:
https://youtu.be/lLTfMLaX820
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Julia Truchsess of Pragmatic Design at her desk http://www.pragmaticdesigns.com/ (http://www.pragmaticdesigns.com/)
featured in The Amp Hour #424 https://theamphour.com/424-an-interview-with-julia-truchsess/ (https://theamphour.com/424-an-interview-with-julia-truchsess/)
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Wow,
This guy is really impressive, I love seeing success stories like this. I jiggled things around a bit in my modest lab today, moved a few pieces after selling some equipment.
Nice setup. What are the home made gadgets left under multimeters and right at the bottom.
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This lab is quite something...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWPYoE1SNnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWPYoE1SNnA)
where to find those bendable cable ties?
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The ever evolving lab..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PmWU5LukU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PmWU5LukU4)
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Wow,
This guy is really impressive, I love seeing success stories like this. I jiggled things around a bit in my modest lab today, moved a few pieces after selling some equipment.
Nice setup. What are the home made gadgets left under multimeters and right at the bottom.
The one on the left is an AC/DC electronic load, 0-30A, 0-250V
The one on the right is an AC source, 0-250V, 0-100A
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The ever evolving lab..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PmWU5LukU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PmWU5LukU4)
$135 an hour?
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Finally, I cleaned up my bench! :-)
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A lot of interesting goodies on that table, huh!
What is that Agilent instrument below the likely Agilent 33120A?
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Instrument below the 33120A is a Protek 9305 AWG on top is a 10Hz~46 GHz Frequency Counter, Agilent 53152A.
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Had to shuffle some instruments on the main desk around to make some space for my new Keithley 6500 and i decided to take a pic of everything that isn't on the main bench but on other test equipment piles in case i need it for a job. I mainly need precise DC voltages, so the bench is centered around that: DMMs and an electrometer to measure them and a SMU and calibrator to source them.
The ultimate goal is to build a full-size server rack that has the equipment for like 95% of the jobs, should also be a good excersive in downsizing my lab (there are a lot of things that are nice to have, but that i haven't used in years).
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Not many fancy instruments, but show several of my hobbies (electronics, 3d printing, CNC, robotics)
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No pictures from here since the shop is pretty much integrated into the flat and hidden behind doors, cabinets, cupboards etc., except for my workstation, SBC, SDR, microscope, cameras, ultrasonic bath, reflux still and Todo dump. Tool sections include:
- computer peripherals
- audio
- electronics
- optics & environmental measurements
- mechanics
- welding
- transport/lifting
- pneumatics & vacuum
- chemistry
- gardening
Consumables, components and materials are cached in a three tier system: Todo heap <> kitchen cupboard <> cellar
This has been working very well so far:
- You can open a workspace anywhere you like and thus elude certain peculiarities of the kin.
- Madam is devoid of projection area due to dispersion of equipment.
- Maximum space efficiency incites configuration completion.
Although I highly recommend imitating this strategy, here are my caveats as well:
- Absolute necessity to be cleanly, tidy and neatly organized!
- Confusing or forgetting components is giving instant PITA...
- Even minimal setup times act as an initial burden that has to be overcome.
Anybody else following the same policies?
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need more tables.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/cleaning-badly-corroded-bncs-(that-my-boss-dont-want-to-know)/?action=dlattach;attach=1368986;image)
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Who the hell is this guy? Have checked his youtube channel and watched his two latest videos. He seems to have a LOT of money and a huge collection of old technological artefacts. And has a strange accent. (
Tried to quickly google his name, but I am not sure if the results turned back right. Anybody knows who he is?
All I could find from listeningto the 2 videos is that he is from Israel and now lives in Canada. Theres some interesting story hiding somewhere...
After Dan Gelbarts "shed" 8) we can again drool over DK7LG's home lab:
http://www.hilberling.com/de/de_ham/ham.htm (http://www.hilberling.com/de/de_ham/ham.htm)
http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-3u.jpg (http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-3u.jpg)
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After Dan Gelbarts "shed" 8) we can again drool over DK7LG's home lab:
http://www.hilberling.com/de/de_ham/ham.htm (http://www.hilberling.com/de/de_ham/ham.htm)
http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-3u.jpg (http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-3u.jpg)
His antenna tower is impressive, wonder if he hand built it.
(http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-ant-10.jpg)
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Not many fancy instruments, but show several of my hobbies (electronics, 3d printing, CNC, robotics)
You've got some nice toys over there :-+
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After Dan Gelbarts "shed" 8) we can again drool over DK7LG's home lab:
http://www.hilberling.com/de/de_ham/ham.htm (http://www.hilberling.com/de/de_ham/ham.htm)
http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-3u.jpg (http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-3u.jpg)
His antenna tower is impressive, wonder if he hand built it.
(http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-ant-10.jpg)
I was a little disappointed there didn't appear to be a private elevator (with a seating area), together with a dedicated personal operator.
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I like the Eiffel tower style staircase
The idea of a very long staircase (stairway to heaven) is interesting too, especially if it forms 1/2 of the lip of a planar biconical antenna (this would work if the tower is near a cliff). Or if it was a giant helix antenna that you walk up.
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The evolution continues. Might be about time to get a bigger space.
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The evolution continues. Might be about time to get a bigger space.
(Attachment Link)
Your wire and cable box caught my attention, please can you take a detailed picture? (bottom- right shelve)
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(http://www.hilberling.com/bo/bo_ham/ham_hl-ant-10.jpg)
That's an interesting staircase. Does the user ascend every day to use the equipment from the top of the tower, or is there something up there so incredibly unreliable it needs 1st class access? Even if a full spiral staircase is a priority, wouldn't it have been cheaper, more attractive, and more compact if the staircase went up the centre of the tower?
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That's an interesting staircase. Does the user ascend every day to use the equipment from the top of the tower, or is there something up there so incredibly unreliable it needs 1st class access? Even if a full spiral staircase is a priority, wouldn't it have been cheaper, more attractive, and more compact if the staircase went up the centre of the tower?
I wonder what all of those birds do to the antenna's performance.
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That's an interesting staircase. Does the user ascend every day to use the equipment from the top of the tower, or is there something up there so incredibly unreliable it needs 1st class access? Even if a full spiral staircase is a priority, wouldn't it have been cheaper, more attractive, and more compact if the staircase went up the centre of the tower?
I wonder what all of those birds do to the antenna's performance.
Probably not as much as squirrels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZkAP-CQlhA&t=0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZkAP-CQlhA&t=0s)
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I wonder what all of those birds do to the antenna's performance.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1388942;image)
They're carrier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Carrier_pigeon) pigeons.
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I wonder what all of those birds do to the antenna's performance.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1388942;image)
They're carrier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Carrier_pigeon) pigeons.
Birds charging on power lines
LOL Pigeons are liars (according to made up satire conspiracy theory)
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I wonder what all of those birds do to the antenna's performance.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1388942;image)
They're carrier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Carrier_pigeon) pigeons.
For use with RFC 2549 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers)?
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That's an interesting staircase. Does the user ascend every day to use the equipment from the top of the tower, or is there something up there so incredibly unreliable it needs 1st class access? Even if a full spiral staircase is a priority, wouldn't it have been cheaper, more attractive, and more compact if the staircase went up the centre of the tower?
I wonder what all of those birds do to the antenna's performance.
I wonder what that much weight does to the strength requirements of those rods? Birds are light, but enough of them starts to add up, and most antennae use pretty thin tubes.
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I'm not happy with my lab ATM looking for suggestions
The big grey desk with the computer screens on is 1m deep the white bench is only 600
The white bench is sitting on those draws and screwed to the wall, its a tad annoying not being able to get my legs under the desk but it might be more annoying if it was a computer desk?
What's worse is its a stretch for my bench dmm, signal gen and power supply leads to my green work mat, and there is a lot of wasted bench space.
My Thoughts are,
*pain in the backside but move the white and grey desk around. Use the upper riser to put power supply, DMM, soldering iron etc on to free up bench space.
Or
Put a shelf under the component draws for the DMM etc. It would need to be at least 350mm deep so that's going to over hang more than half the white bench. (I'm not sure this is a good idea)
Or keep the desks how they are but move the computer monitors to the white bench and use the grey desk for the electronics stuff making use of the riser.
Thoughts would be appreciated I'm real bad at this stuff :D
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Those speakers are using up a lot of shelf space.
Maybe something to think about.
And what about that big block in the corner?
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Those speakers are using up a lot of shelf space.
I've had bigger. Much bigger. :)
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And what about that big block in the corner?
That's a 3D printer as far as I can see.
McBryce.
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Yeh it's a 3d printer. I think I'll just make the electronics bench a bit deeper. Still thinking on it
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Big decluttering happy with my bench now 🙂
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If possible I'd move the parts storage to a different place and install shelves above the bench for equipment. It would be more practical that way.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=254275;image)
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Big decluttering happy with my bench now 🙂
How do you use the test equipment when it's all at knee level? Surely it should be the other way around: Components out of sight and meters where you can read them at eye level?
McBryce.
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It's not too bad. A lot better than a cluttered bench for the time being until I do a big change. My eventual plan is to move the components and put the test equip up higher.
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I don't have a workspace for electronics, i just got my desk where it has to share for space with the usual desktop stuff, coffee mugs and stuff
Here it's looking pretty clean,
(https://i.imgur.com/8oiZL2Oh.jpg)
I have a shop, but I don't do electronics stuff out there, just not a good place for it.
I have storage on the other side of the wall where I keep my things when not in use.
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Hi,
I have put a shelve over the bench, with the instruments that are in use. The tools are stored in the drawers.
The other instruments and spare parts are stored in a cupboard
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Hi,
Down below you can find some pictrures of my lab :D
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List of equipment that I already have:
- LeCroy Waverunner 6100 1GHz 10 GSa/s
- HP 8595E 6,5 GHz SA
- HP 8640A RF GEN
- Marconi IFR 2025 2.5 GHz RF Gen
- Keysight 34970A DAQ
- HP 34401A 6,5 digit DMM
- Rigol DL3021A DC load
- Rigol DS1054Z Scope
- Rigol DG1022Z Arb Gen
- Agilent E3646A PSU
- Rigol DP832A PSU
- HackRF SDR,
- NanoVNA,
- WEP 853 Preheater,
- ZD-915 desoldering gun,
- JBC CD-2BQF,
- Microscope + camera,
- Ultrasonic cleaner,
- Lab PC + screens,
- 4x FDM + 1x SLA 3D printers,
- Other stuff (cables, handheld DMM,s etc.)
On the way to me:
- Puhui T962A Reflow oven,
- Rigol MSO5072 Oscilloscope,
Just cant wait to make some project with my new equipment !
I'm planning to post my new projects on my website (I haven't had enough time to write new posts for past 5 years - studies, but now I'm planning to restart the whole website). You can find my website over this link :D: https://bytechlab.com/ (https://bytechlab.com/)
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The scopes in that photo are a 2455B on the left, a 2445A in the center and the big one on the right is a DSA 602A. Just out of view is an 11302A and a couple more DSA 602As.
The microscope is a Leica Wild M3Z with 10x Eyepieces giving 6.5X to 40x magnification. Illumination is a 150W fibre optic ring-light.
Under the bench is a home-built 6KW 415V 3-phase rotary converter and a 2KW High-isolation 1-phase mains transformer and some big dummy loads to keep my feet warm.
The patient on the bench is a micro-hole drilling EDM generator for making the spray holes in diesel fuel injectors.
The PC on the left is sending commands to the generator on test and the DSA is monitoring the power output to the non-inductive dummy load in the gold heat-sink on the middle of the bench.
Output pulses are 100V for 1uS at a 200KHz repetition rate.
Power comes from the Glassman 150V 7A PSU on the far left.
Input and output power monitoring connections are Tek P5205 HV Differential Voltage probes connected to an 11A34 four channel amplifier and A6302 Current probes feeding an 11A16 Current Probe amplifier - all in the DSA602A mainframe. Power computation is done by the DSA. Hard copies are sent to the DSA floppy disk and then printed-out in the final test report.
Interestingly, reverse engineering the Generator included cleaving the top off an 8-pin IC to read the part number from the silicon because the OEM had ground-off all the IC numbers! I've attached a photo for you of the view down the microscope when I found out the chip was an AD9696.
Picture of the lab is courtesy of http://owston-grange.com/ (http://owston-grange.com/)
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So many home labs are just full of more test equipment than seems usable.
Where as my lab is mostly full of production parts stock.
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Depends what floats your boat, some people build their home labs up over decades and are into T&M (
tits and muff Test and Measurement), experimentation, repair or electronics in general to support a radio or other hobby. Specifically to design, programming and assembly you have different requirements and repairing and servicing your own TE is also almost a hobby unto itself.
But you have a point, if you just brought a pile of stuff overnight for no particular reason you may have a compulsive problem that needs addressing. I don't personally get gear envy at all and it's a healthy place to be, but I'm also well setup to my specific needs and patient.
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So many home labs are just full of more test equipment than seems usable.
Where as my lab is mostly full of production parts stock.
Perhaps your lab is set up to produce a specific product, so anything not aimed at that product is pretty pointless. A home lab may have seen vastly different things go through it over the years, so there could be a wider range of kit to suit. And I daresay some items would have been acquired for a specific purpose that hasn't cropped up again, or only get used every other year. For a production environment you'd probably hire the appropriate kit, whereas fixing up something off Ebay may be a lot cheaper.
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Obviously Psi has not joined any TEA therapy group. However, there is always hope.
Psi, no insult intended, you are probably more sane that the rest.
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I guess, I do fall into that category?! And sanity was never an option....
My special interest is (very) high frequency stuff, so things that go into the two or three digit GHz range. So black magic in general. :)
That again needs a lot of general support electronics and a lot of TE that has to be repaired. And the latter opens Pondora's box on what stuff you will need (spiler: everything!).
Edit:
Sorry for the rotated images. Neither my phone, nor my pc, nor Instagram has an issue with that, only this forum here.
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That stack to the right of the monitor :o.
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This is my desk in our attic. I mostly do analog audio so can get by with basic gear like the cheapest model Picoscope. I use the Scarlett Solo to measure distortion, and a tinySA to sniff-out oscillations (example in screen is from an opamp missing a bypass cap). Soldering and construction are done in our garage 3-floors down. I need the exercise anyway…
Jason
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Sorry for the rotated images. Neither my phone, nor my pc, nor Instagram has an issue with that, only this forum here.
This happens, when people rely on "default settings", which is never good to accept, without having a closer look at all the settings manually; the picures are shown as if being rotated already, but in reality they are not!
As a linux user I don't say anything about windows' internal picture-software, which you probably use, as nothing is able to compete with the free XnViewMP-Software 1.0, where you have the option to do anything you like...
https://www.xnview.com/en/ (https://www.xnview.com/en/)
XnView: uncheck "rotate pictures concerning EXIF-alignment"
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTZbg5Ry/SNAG-0090.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkYpHGTS)
ACDSee: uncheck "rotate JPEG- and TIFF-files automatically based on EXIF-alignment"
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNR7pM0k/SNAG-0091.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I always rotate my pictures myself, which is very easy to do with ACDSee on a windows PC or XnView on a windows and/or linux PC. With XnViewMP you are able to manipulate the settings the way, that it looks like an ACDSee-Clone, which is simply perfect - yes, it takes a while, but let me know, when you need some help to do so... ;)
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4m53nbn/SNAG-0092.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bsZTcs8y)
Cheers! :)
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I guess, I do fall into that category?! And sanity was never an option....
My special interest is (very) high frequency stuff, so things that go into the two or three digit GHz range. So black magic in general. :)
That again needs a lot of general support electronics and a lot of TE that has to be repaired. And the latter opens Pondora's box on what stuff you will need (spiler: everything!).
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Sorry for the rotated images. Neither my phone, nor my pc, nor Instagram has an issue with that, only this forum here.
Is that a B&K 2425 AC voltmeter I see on the shelf there? I have a one of those been in my repair queue since 1999. It's finally in bits on the bench: the negative power supply is u/s, but I need to trace the circuit out to progress further. B&K notoriously never provide circuit diagrams
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You can look at images, and rotate them, and crop them, in the Microsoft Paint app, which is extremely easy to use.
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It is a jpg. Just let it open on Microsoft photo viewer that is in Windows by default and rotate it. Not necessary to have any special software at all.
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Very impressive stuff you got there!
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When I have posted from my computer the images have always been correct, but somehow I screwed it up when I posted from my phone and they came out sideways. Given my technology skills, I should move photos to the computer and post from there in the future.
Jason
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When I have posted from my computer the images have always been correct, but somehow I screwed it up when I posted from my phone and they came out sideways. Given my technology skills, I should move photos to the computer and post from there in the future.
Jason
I do but primarily to put them through an editor to reduce their size as a nod to times when we had slow internet that some poor souls might still have.
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To note, jpeg rotation is a shit show. There's a rotation metadata chunk which some software respects and some doesn't at edit time and view time. When you rotate stuff, some software actually rotates the image pixels and some just changes the metadata. This leads to all sorts of non-determinism and having to hold your laptop like a retard just to work something out :-DD
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Here's a shot of part of my home lab while I'm in the process of rearranging things. Highlights not shown in the picture include some LPKF equipment, Universal Laser Systems CO2 laser cutter/engraver, Faxitron DX-50 X-Ray, and Haas OM-2A CNC mill.
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Faxitron DX-50 X-Ray, you bastard! :-*
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To note, jpeg rotation is a shit show. There's a rotation metadata chunk which some software respects and some doesn't at edit time and view time. When you rotate stuff, some software actually rotates the image pixels and some just changes the metadata. This leads to all sorts of non-determinism and having to hold your laptop like a retard just to work something out :-DD
In general image file metadata is a shit show.
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I tweak my setup every once and a while. The stack is a bit narrower now, so easier to reach the instruments on RHS. I Added the BK9130 triple power supply and the 3 vertical power outlets to fill the gap adjacent to the two DC loads
I'm going to part with the two B&K instruments on top; DC supply and load (more than 3 DC loads might be encroaching on TEA territory);-)
The mess on the bench on the RHS mostly out of view
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only some test gear displayed (different location)
33120a 34401a WSD80 WS80 4328a pm5770 fluke1507 34970a fluke80k40
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OK, I can't resist... Here is a montage.
Everything works (almost all of it repaired/restored by me). Obviously, most of it is left unplugged and unused until I really need it. Everything is accessible from the rear for power and cable attachments. As one gets closer to my little work area (bottom center of photo), that's where the frequently used pieces are. Approximately 45 things are permanently plugged into AC power, but obviously I dare not turn them all on at once!
Believe it or not, all of this fits in a relatively small corner of my basement. Have fun identifying all of the pieces from the photo - I'll bet a lot of you have many of them too.
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Is there a monthly prize for the most messy work-bench/lab?
I took these because, enough is enough. I've started sneezing and I've be joined by a few small flies, suggesting the rule about "no organics in the bin" has been broken!
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Hello,
Some picts of my little bench.
(http://[attach=1])
(http://[attach=2])
(http://[attach=3])
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Noob here, I just finished building a double decker electronics work bench and was going to build the simple little stand to put all my test equipment into. I have all new stuff in boxes and waited until my last purchase so I have all the dimensions so now I can start. Of course after finding this topic I had to register as there are so many options which is of course, messing with my plans a little. I think I will just do the small bookshelf approach for starters as I m somewhat a noob and my projects will be more hobbyist in nature. I have a Rigol DS1104Z-S Plus 100 MHz Digital Oscilloscope, an OWON XDM5031 DVM, and a couple of DC power supplies (one switching, one linear) so far as the rest is soldering equipment and a trinocular scope. The bench is 32" deep and the lower layer is for electronics and the upper for 3D printing. I added a pegboard on the bottom layer but some of it will be covered by parts bins etc. The bench is so big (8 feet long) that I can't even get the whole thing in a pic from the doorway walking into the ex-garage. Here is a pic of where I am at: It was a lot of work and it weighs in at a ton :)
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@voltage
Like your powerbar. Can you share more info?
Cheers.
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Small (depth 70cm length 170 cm) but usable. (note to self if you get more scopes you need another bench;-))
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Why do you need more than one (or two) scope(s) on the bench? I can appreciate having many, but surely you use or need available just one (or two). The ones high up aren't really usable and take up space other kit could be using.
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Indeed I need two scopes (Tek 2225 and Rigol MSO5104) and they are within direct reach.
However, I like old analogue scopes and need a place to store them.
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Well, if you need to save them, I'll send you the address ;D
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I did some prototype art bench lighting. The funny cardboard "luminaire" is so I cannot see the emitters directly and have no bright spots on my vision. There's some reflective film inside I think I originally planned this to mount above a monitor for desk lighting like those fancy BenQ screenbars.
LED strip used is from Cutter (SSK-1560ZGE-50299NIC), LEDs are the Nichia 757 optisolis series. CCT ~4600K Duv =-0.0016, CRI Ra = 99, R9 = 94. TM-30-15 Rf= 98, Rg = 100. It might as well be museum class lighting ahahah.
Powered with a 25W Meanwell LED driver that is adjusted with a Bourns 3500S 10 turn wirewound pot (it was on special lol). I have another strip powered from it that does general room/PC desk lighting so it only sees say 12W on full chooch.
I need to heatsink it with some square aluminium tubing, there is a 40C rise over ambient @ 12W drive which is in spec (100C ambient, 120C junction) but makes me uncomfortable. That's about 650 lux on the desk though and at a more reasonable 150lux or there's a 13C rise if that.
A museum would only display sensitive work at say 50 lux, while the ASTM D1729 standard for a light booth used for visual appraisal of colours calls for 810-1880lux. Maybe that's a bit too nuts for casual late night doodling sessions ahahahah.
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Small (depth 70cm length 170 cm) but usable. (note to self if you get more scopes you need another bench;-))
Never seen a bench with all the BNCs capped.
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Never seen a bench with all the BNCs capped.
The photo was taken after an extensive reshuffle because the Enertec 5224 joined the club.
Before such a reshuffle I always cap all connectors.
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I guess, I do fall into that category?! And sanity was never an option....
My special interest is (very) high frequency stuff, so things that go into the two or three digit GHz range. So black magic in general. :)
That again needs a lot of general support electronics and a lot of TE that has to be repaired. And the latter opens Pondora's box on what stuff you will need (spiler: everything!).
Edit:
Sorry for the rotated images. Neither my phone, nor my pc, nor Instagram has an issue with that, only this forum here.
Is that a B&K 2425 AC voltmeter I see on the shelf there? I have a one of those been in my repair queue since 1999. It's finally in bits on the bench: the negative power supply is u/s, but I need to trace the circuit out to progress further. B&K notoriously never provide circuit diagrams
Nope it is a 2609. The others are 2636 of which I happened to own one already and then find 3 or 4 units in the trash. Well, now I have plenty (until I finally manage to give them away).
Sorry for the "timely" response, I am somewhat occupied renovating my new house (with a new Lab... more than 20 m² :) ) and did not log in here ever since posting...
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After going through the whole thread from start to finish, what I have learned is that you want shelving. All the really nice setups go vertical.
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After going through the whole thread from start to finish, what I have learned is that you want shelving. All the really nice setups go vertical.
That and a deep bench, so you still have plenty of space in front of the shelves to have a decent working area (but not too deep so you cannot easily reach the equipment on the shelves...). Shelves also need to be deep if you are into vintage HP gear.
As an example what works for me, I use a 1m deep bench, with 55cm deep shelves. The equipment that is directly on the bench does not occupy the full 55cm, but maybe max 45cm, so this leaves a working area > 0.5m.
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That and a deep bench, so you still have plenty of space in front of the shelves to have a decent working area (but not too deep so you cannot easily reach the equipment on the shelves...). Shelves also need to be deep if you are into vintage HP gear.
As an example what works for me, I use a 1m deep bench, with 55cm deep shelves. The equipment that is directly on the bench does not occupy the full 55cm, but maybe max 45cm, so this leaves a working area > 0.5m.
Agreed. I spent my whole life behind a single small desk. I never had enough space. A few years ago I purchased a 900mm deep desk and it has absolutely changed my life. In fact, it's only a tiny bit too crampt. I wish I had another 10cm, then everything would fit perfectly when I'm doing stuff.
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Here's mine.
All the leads for the oscilloscope and DMM, the ESD mat, the soldering iron and projects are tucked away in the drawers.
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Here is mine in its current messy state...
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Here is mine in its current messy state...
Yours in a messy state looks like what mine looks like when in a tidy state
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Yours in a messy state looks like what mine looks like when in a tidy state
I have to admit, it can be worse also ::)
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"Here is mine in its current messy state..."
Care to elaborate about the optics on the left bench?
Cheers
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"Here is mine in its current messy state..."
Care to elaborate about the optics on the left bench?
Cheers
On the left:
These are parts of an older ellipsometer I found on Ebay. I want to use these as an automatic polarization analyzer. I have a bunch of unlabelled mica quarter waveplates, and would like to closely characterize them to build a few optical isolators and of course also use them as quarter and half waveplates.
Currently I have realigned the optics in both polarizer and analyzer (I get a 1/30.000 attenuation when analyzer and polarizer are at 90°), and have reverse engineered the old encoder and motor windings of the analyzer part. Currently I am working on writing some firmware for a STM32 board to control the motor and read in an optical power meter via and ADC1256. Analysis will be done on the pc (still need to delf into Jones calculus to make this all work, so will not be finished soon)
On the right:
This is a laser marker system in progress. It will consist of a jenoptik smaragd laser firing into a beam expander that enters a scanlab galvo. Galvo and laser will be controlled by an LMCV4 controller. Also work in progress, currently the LMCV4 is damaged due to a grounding error by me, but I should be able to fix it (parts on order)
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Very nice. you might consider posting something in "projects" eventually!
My background is in nonlinear optics so I was intrigued.
Thanks.
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Very nice. you might consider posting something in "projects" eventually!
My background is in nonlinear optics so I was intrigued.
Thanks.
Good idea & good to know some optic experts are also "hiding" in this forum :). That could be useful for an optics hobbyist like me. My problem is mostly working on too many projects simultaneously and shifting focus quite often between them. For example I am currently also working on reverse engineering an FTNIR (Buhler/Buschi NIRFlex N-400) in the hope to use my own software/electronics with it. Motor movement is ok (was easy, were 2 stepper motors) and I have traced back where I can record the laser reference signal and the interferrogram (see recording with my picoscope). So digitizing those should be sufficient I think to recreate the NIR spectra...
Goal is here to use similar electronics hardware as for the polarization analyzer (stm32 board with ADC1256 and motor controllers), and do the rest on pc (C# application). But also here, progress is not too fast, hence sometimes a "fear" of posting because I will not be able to provide regular updates...
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I finally organized my desk/bench!
yes, my pc is a wooden plank!
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Only 3 screens? ::)
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Only 3 screens? ::)
Gotta fill all the holes on the back of the Mobo. :P
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Only 3 screens? ::)
Gotta fill all the holes on the back of the Mobo. :P
what else can one do! :P
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I finally organized my desk/bench!
yes, my pc is a wooden plank!
As someone who runs PCs in cases that have never had the side cover on, I find that presentation so salacious, I'm wondering if it should be illegal.
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yes, my pc is a wooden plank!
I fear it reveals way too much of my own personality, but my first thought was "Hmm.. a tower-type sparse-fin heatsink with a similar size and footprint might suffice even without a fan, considering thermal updraught.. I wonder what the TDP of the processor Anthocyanina uses is?"
Yes, I too love to build my own workstations in unconventional chassises. I tend to silent/quiet builds, however.
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As someone who runs PCs in cases that have never had the side cover on, I find that presentation so salacious, I'm wondering if it should be illegal.
It is unfortunately much less gracious if you see it complete, with all its noodly appendages flapping around!
I fear it reveals way too much of my own personality, but my first thought was "Hmm.. a tower-type sparse-fin heatsink with a similar size and footprint might suffice even without a fan, considering thermal updraught.. I wonder what the TDP of the processor Anthocyanina uses is?"
Yes, I too love to build my own workstations in unconventional chassises. I tend to silent/quiet builds, however.
When i bought the parts to build it, i didn't have money for a case, so it lived as a cardboard box for a few days, then i bought a cheap wooden plank and some mounting hardware, and liked how it looked there. That cheap plank got bent by the heat or something, and it was made by many smaller wooden pieces glued together to look like a mosaic or something, so i got a solid plank of harder wood and mounted it like it looks like now. I don't have the tools or skill to make nice looking holes for the cables to go in the back, but i'm ok with it being all noodly!. The ssds are also just flapping around behind the plank, held by the light pressure of the plank against the wall. It's all super sketchy but it works! And of course, googly eyes on the cpu fan! because i like how silly it looks :P
oh! and about cpu tdp! it's 65w
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The ssds are also just flapping around behind the plank, held by the light pressure of the plank against the wall. It's all super sketchy but it works!
They can get warm so probably not the wisest way to mount them when you consider they are normally screwed to a metal bracket and in relatively free space to help get the heat away. Even fixed to a bracket on the front of your plank would be better than stuffed behind it. ;)
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And of course, googly eyes on the cpu fan! because i like how silly it looks :P
Yup! On my Linux machines, I use a bootsplash with my mascot Tux (avatar) rolling its eyes in opposite directions. Still makes me smile..
it's 65w [cpu tdp]
I haven't done open convection cooling for more than 45W TDP, but there are beasts like Noctua NH-P1 (https://ncc.noctua.at/coolers/NH-P1-cooler-68) (too expensive for my wallet) that may be able to handle it, depending on the exact motherboard and processor. But the passive ones are heavy, NH-P1 weighing over 1.1 kg alone, so when mounted on a vertical motherboard (with vertical convection airflow), you need to have good metal backplate for it, and even then they may bend and break the motherboard.. No, I do not suggest you try it! ;D
Nowadays, I play much more with ARM-based single-board computers (not Raspberry Pi's –– long story) – especially the ones whose manufacturers push the support into upstream Linux kernels instead of providing their own "forks" whose support is measured in weeks and not years -, and microcontrollers.
I don't have the tools or skill to make nice looking holes for the cables to go in the back
I use a hand drill, the hand-power-only kind, with a toothy disc in the middle that you crank. I live in an apartment, and used to have neighbors who apparently drilled holes in the support structures with a hammer drill as a hobby. The noise was unbelievable; the entire building rang like a, uh, a hammer drill next to your ear. A hand drill, a set of drill bits, a nibbler (for metal sheets, like scissors but has support on both sides with a nibbly bit in the middle), and a set of small files is about all I ever use to mod metal chassises, and make wood more holey. Oh, and pliers. And Hansaplast universal band-aids, because I always manage to cut my fingertips, and that particular band-aid type helps such papercuts not get so inflamed for me. (I have posted about that somewhere here.) For drilling in metal, some food-grade mineral oil helps. I use it, and a beeswax mix, to treat all my wooden surfaces too; I don't like the smelly stuff you can buy off the shelf.
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@voltage
Like your powerbar. Can you share more info?
Cheers.
It looks like an IEC PDU of some sort to me. Something like this ..
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275548611954 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275548611954)
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Don't think I've posted an image of my space so here it is:
Room is 12m² (2.4x5m). Bench is built from cheap IKEA desktops but with custom frame to make it more sturdy. I wouldn't mind them being 10cm deeper but it's allright.
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Don't think I've posted an image of my space so here it is:
Room is 12m² (2.4x5m). Bench is built from cheap IKEA desktops but with custom frame to make it more sturdy. I wouldn't mind them being 10cm deeper but it's allright.
Very nice! And still lots of space for Ebay purchases! >:D
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Don't think I've posted an image of my space so here it is:
Room is 12m² (2.4x5m). Bench is built from cheap IKEA desktops but with custom frame to make it more sturdy. I wouldn't mind them being 10cm deeper but it's alright.
Does H.O have an HD or is it X Plus ?
Nice roomy lab BTW. :-+
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Thanks guys. I find it harder and harder to score anything on EBAY these days - certainly here in the EU.
Scopes are Rigol DS4000 and Siglent SDS 2000X+. I have been drooling over the 2kHD but I REALLY can't justify it. Then again, I can't REALLY justify much of what I have...
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Siglent SDS 2000X+. I have been drooling over the 2kHD but I REALLY can't justify it. Then again, I can't REALLY justify much of what I have...
I'm with you on the HD unless you really need the 12 bit but it is a really nice scope and a little smaller than the X Plus and really very quiet.
Only handled this one 350 MHz unit we got in especially for a customer and ATM not planning to stock them as the X Plus offers better bang for buck however customer demand will decide what we do in the end.
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Thanks guys. I find it harder and harder to score anything on EBAY these days - certainly here in the EU. [...]
It seems an international thing... wonder why that is? - too much money circulating, nobody needs to sell their old junk? :D
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Hi, everyone,
my second post :) After I introduced myself, I would like to introduce my little electronics workbench here. Unfortunately I don't have much space, but I also don't have many devices :)
On the left the electronics workbench and on the right at the PC workstation.
[attachimg=1]
Many greetings
Detlev
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Finally getting the workstation finished, this area used to be a folding table with the microscopes for the kids, I mostly use the metallurgical scope and I had some of my test equipment in a smaller area.
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I had a local woodshop make a large countertop with a backsplash, along with two side splashes I can attach later but won't have a rolled seam like the rear.
Work table is 32"D x 10'L, with black nebula laminate. I wanted to have the 10' span with no center vertical support so the chairs can slide the full length without hitting your knees.
I was able to do this with an angled center support and the main framework slightly resembling a wing spar, tapering to the front. I can stand in the middle with barely any sag..definitely solid enough to use the microscopes.
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I had a different shop cut down a sheet of 3/4" black laminate for shelving and add edge banding.
The metal shelving on the left is all Omniwall and has worked out great. They seem to me more suited for garage organization but I feel the lab environment also has potential with their products.
I have some more to do, need to add a long power strip, get the ESD mounted, some under shelf lights, more hand tooks,etc.
I'm working on modifying a solder wire caddy to hold some hookup wire, will get pics of that when I'm done.
The kids love to get pond and creek critters, and I'm slowly getting them into building some arduino projects. Finally have some space to work on small projects and get myself into trouble... 8)
I wanted to add, none of my electronic gear or even my hobby would be where it is if it weren't for this site. I have been able to gather a wealth of knowledge here to get this underway, and I'm greatly appreciative of all the advice and criticism.
When I sit down with the kids to mess with some electronic experiments, that has been made possible by the EEVblog...many thanks... :-+
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Guys, I came here for inspiration and have a question. What would you recommend for the shelf system above the workbench?
In last couple posts, I saw that owners have brackets on the wall. I was thinking about adding a custom shelf on my table. Something like this (https://www.festo-didactic.com/de-de/lernsysteme/laboreinrichtungen/elneos-line/labortisch-mit-cockpitaufbau-und-experimentierrahmen-230-v.htm?fbid=ZGUuZGUuNTQ0LjEzLjE4LjE4NDEuMTAzMjg1) or this (https://www.elquip.nl/de/info-de/esd-tische).
Honestly, I struggle with extra time therefore adding something that is available would be the easiest solution. I would like to ideally have a shelf where I mount LED lights and can place some smaller test equipment. (e.g. power supply).
Do you think I should go the extra mile and add a custom frame for my current (little) table?
PS: It should also look reasonable. It is home office that I share with my spouse (about 22m2). :scared:
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I have two Arlink workbench with shelves similar to your photo.
What I find important is to have access to the back of the instruments, in particular once they are stacked two or three high in their final resting places.....
I installed the bench perpendicular to the wall to allow easy access to the back. Do not put it flush with the wall if you can spare a few tens of cm so you have access to the back even if you have a full size rack instrument on there.
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Guys, I came here for inspiration and have a question. What would you recommend for the shelf system above the workbench?
In last couple posts, I saw that owners have brackets on the wall. I was thinking about adding a custom shelf on my table. Something like this (https://www.festo-didactic.com/de-de/lernsysteme/laboreinrichtungen/elneos-line/labortisch-mit-cockpitaufbau-und-experimentierrahmen-230-v.htm?fbid=ZGUuZGUuNTQ0LjEzLjE4LjE4NDEuMTAzMjg1) or this (https://www.elquip.nl/de/info-de/esd-tische).
Honestly, I struggle with extra time therefore adding something that is available would be the easiest solution. I would like to ideally have a shelf where I mount LED lights and can place some smaller test equipment. (e.g. power supply).
Do you think I should go the extra mile and add a custom frame for my current (little) table?
PS: It should also look reasonable. It is home office that I share with my spouse (about 22m2). :scared:
An alternate. Build your own. My lab is in the living room so neatness is a priority. (This is only part of my entire bench area)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/VYhHFe.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnVYhHFej)
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Hi, everyone,
my second post :) After I introduced myself, I would like to introduce my little electronics workbench here. Unfortunately I don't have much space, but I also don't have many devices :)
On the left the electronics workbench and on the right at the PC workstation.
(Attachment Link)
Many greetings
Detlev
EN: Plenty of space on the walls for shelves.
DE: Viel Platz für Regale an den Wänden.
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Guys, I came here for inspiration and have a question. What would you recommend for the shelf system above the workbench?
Before I built mine, these were a couple sites I looked at to get ideas, pricey, but look well built.
https://apmg.co.uk/laboratory-furniture/storage/shelving/ (https://apmg.co.uk/laboratory-furniture/storage/shelving/)
https://www.fishersci.com/us/en/browse/90200123/shelving?page=1 (https://www.fishersci.com/us/en/browse/90200123/shelving?page=1)
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Don't think I've posted an image of my space so here it is:
Room is 12m² (2.4x5m). Bench is built from cheap IKEA desktops but with custom frame to make it more sturdy. I wouldn't mind them being 10cm deeper but it's allright.
Awwww, Maaantis…
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If you can put holes in the wall, those dual track standards with folded metal brackets are fantastic. Mine are Rubbermaid bought at Home Depot, but I think everywhere you can find something similar. Only drawback is with MDF shelves they will sag if the spacing is too wide. The wall studs where I have mine are 16" spacing, so not too bad. I still try to put the heaviest stuff directly over a bracket.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/need-inspiration-for-a-new-lab-table/?action=dlattach;attach=184721;image)
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Yep. Using the same system.
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One thing to watch with those dual track shelving systems is on the cheaper units you cant move the brackets around easily without loosing the upright supports from the wall as the uprights aint deep enough to let the brackets rotate
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Only drawback is with MDF shelves they will sag if the spacing is too wide
You can put cross piece underneath to prevent sag. If you're clever you can use, say, a 1" or 2" strip edge on at the back (on top) to stop stuff falling off the back of the shelf, and/or the same underneath at the front to hide under-shelf lights.
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Dear fellow hobbyists, thank you for your tips. You helped me to decide. I will use the wall-mount rack system as e.g. user rdl mentioned. I am short on time, short on space, but will make it!
Happy new year everyone.
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Over the holiday I updated two laptops I inherited from my daughters (replaced spinning disks with SSDs, increased RAM), so now I have a dedicated
14" 13.3” touchscreen for my Picoscope 5244B. The computers are 6ish years old - both girls got new computers when they went off to college. I really like the space now, but it is almost never this clean!
jason
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My pretty lab that measures 4 m x 3 m. Lots of gear and total LED power from various LED-strips is 1.5 kW. The other side of the room is occupied by my kids' electronic projects. Then there's the 3d-printing room as well.
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total LED power from various LED-strips is 1.5 kW
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Looks pretty good. Lots of room to expand. I'd add another layer of shelving just below what you have. Then you could move some of that equipment up off the bench top and have more room to work.
My pretty lab that measures 4 m x 3 m. Lots of gear and total LED power from various LED-strips is 1.5 kW. The other side of the room is occupied by my kids' electronic projects. Then there's the 3d-printing room as well.
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Looks pretty good. Lots of room to expand. I'd add another layer of shelving just below what you have. Then you could move some of that equipment up off the bench top and have more room to work.
My pretty lab that measures 4 m x 3 m. Lots of gear and total LED power from various LED-strips is 1.5 kW. The other side of the room is occupied by my kids' electronic projects. Then there's the 3d-printing room as well.
Sounds like a good suggestion, thanks for the tip :-+
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My pretty lab that measures 4 m x 3 m. Lots of gear and total LED power from various LED-strips is 1.5 kW. The other side of the room is occupied by my kids' electronic projects. Then there's the 3d-printing room as well.
The open curtain at night gives me the heebie-jeebies. I hope that side of your place is not visible from the outside or it could be an invitation to a burglar.
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My pretty lab that measures 4 m x 3 m. Lots of gear and total LED power from various LED-strips is 1.5 kW. The other side of the room is occupied by my kids' electronic projects. Then there's the 3d-printing room as well.
The open curtain at night gives me the heebie-jeebies. I hope that side of your place is not visible from the outside or it could be an invitation to a burglar.
With 1.5kW of LED lighting it is probably visible to the ISS!
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My pretty lab that measures 4 m x 3 m. Lots of gear and total LED power from various LED-strips is 1.5 kW. The other side of the room is occupied by my kids' electronic projects. Then there's the 3d-printing room as well.
The open curtain at night gives me the heebie-jeebies. I hope that side of your place is not visible from the outside or it could be an invitation to a burglar.
It's not visible at all from the street and the curtain is only open when I'm in the room. :)
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My pretty lab that measures 4 m x 3 m. Lots of gear and total LED power from various LED-strips is 1.5 kW. The other side of the room is occupied by my kids' electronic projects. Then there's the 3d-printing room as well.
The open curtain at night gives me the heebie-jeebies. I hope that side of your place is not visible from the outside or it could be an invitation to a burglar.
With 1.5kW of LED lighting it is probably visible to the ISS!
:-DD
Actually the rated power is even higher, 1.5 kW was what I measured at the power supply. But I should be able to go higher than that: The ceiling lamp you see in the picture consists of 60 cans and each can has a 2 m led strip wired around it, each led strip is rated at 14 W/m, giving a total power of 1680 W. Then there are 3 led strips over the bench, each 4 meters long with 4 W/m/color and they are RGBTW, which gives me another 200 W. So the rated power is more like 1880 W. The can lamp would get very hot though, if all strips would be turned on at max for a prolonged time :bullshit: (the cans are empty :popcorn: )
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I can't possibly see any reasonable explanation to have this insanity :-//
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Long overdue for a lab photo shoot. Arrangement is constantly in flux, the recent theme is power electronics, so the gear I pack on my limited bench space is mostly for power stuff.
My lab is in my bedroom (you can see my bed on the top right corner of the bench shot), and space is at a premium.
As the EE hobby dominated my life and actually became my day job, I have donated away a whole load of book and clothes, and converted my shelves and wardrobe into storage ::)
Things might look cramped, but in Hong Kong, this amount of space is already a real luxury, and I am proud of what I have slowly built up over the years.
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... like a bomb hit it as usual.
https://i.imgur.com/KVkev8J.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QdrJE2n.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/77hx0l1.jpg
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Been a few changes at hippy towers since my original post, mainly due to my ole scope giving up.New scope,old bench power supply moved into the old scope case,old scopes built in signal generator re cased,old home brew sig gen tweaked and re cased to match,the final straw being a new bench multimeter all meant the old layout didnt work,and heres wot we end up with
Bench is 151cm x 60cm and in a previous life was the door to the cupboard that was originally in this space
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Accumulated since 1970s, TEK, HP GenRad lab,
For digital audio, magnetics, HV, power.
two benches are custom made.
On request pix #2 is part of my High Voltage probe/Power Supply/product/magnet9cs designs.
Your thoughts and feedback appreciated!
Jon
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Accumulated since 1970s, TEK, HP GenRad lab,
For digital audio, magnetics, HV, power.
two benches are custom made.
Your thoughts and feedback appreciated!
Jon
Please show more of your "High Voltage" bench / testgear / equipment, if you can.
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Your setup reminds me of when I had my bench in a closet. Not much room, but I actually feel like I had more fun back then.
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Bench is 151cm x 60cm and in a previous life was the door to the cupboard that was originally in this space
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=183895;image)
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Looks fine to me. Cosy can be a good thing.
Also I've seen quite a few peoples setups here in AU and they are just as 'cramped' as yours is. Just because we have a large country doesn't mean that we have a large amount of space for electronics, quite often the rest of the house is used for family or something else and electronics labs are on the lower end of the priority list.
Yea cozy is nice, besides having to take solder fume extraction really seriously, I rather like the setup I have.
What brand of screwdrivers do you use?
I am glad you asked, I might have a mild obsession for screwdrivers and hand tools :P . Screwdrivers are a mix of PB Swiss, Wiha PicoFinish, and Wera. Other pliers, crimper, tweezers type of stuff are mostly Knipex, Engineer, Erem and Ideal-tek. I generally try to stay away from steel produced north of the border where I live ::) , maybe with the exception for Iwiss crimping tools for terminals I rarely crimp.
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Please show more of your "High Voltage" bench / testgear / equipment, if you can.
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No need to say more >:D. Here my lab, with HV side and precision side.
34970A, Keithley 2790, Hp 6114A, 0-4kV 1mA precision DCDC converter (I built the case), homemade AC power supply (with variac, over current protection, and some safety for HV stuff)
100kVAC 5kVA trafo, 140kVDC using rectifier+cap, voltage dividers (some homemade) and a 24kV surge arrester used as a short duty 34kV zener to obtain stable DC voltage ::).
(edit- forgot a photo)
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Time for an update I guess since my lab seems to be always changing and acquiring new equipment. And also demonstrates that you can have your lab in your living space and doesn't have to hidden in a closet or basement. That assumes of course that you are single, independent, and answer to no one. All the benches/shelves are wooden construction designed and built by me. And you don't need to be a carpenter or cabinet maker to make it sturdy or attractive. Just basic hand power tools. On bench 1 is a Tek 465B getting it's vertical attenuator switch decks cleaned/adjusted and vertical compensation checked. Common issue on these old scopes due to their age and prior Gorillas beating on them. Bench 2 in the far right corner is the boat anchor section with two more hidden under the bench.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/KxRdQn.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnKxRdQnj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/0jMTMi.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/po0jMTMij)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/ln2YjJ.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnln2YjJj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/923/ZjpDmn.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnZjpDmnj)
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Finally tore the desk down, got the Kallax backing shelves up and ... it's starting to look better already and nowhere near finished. LED back lighting and moving more stuff in.
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No need to say more >:D. Here my lab, with HV side and precision side.
Holy Voltage...!!! Wins the Crazy Lab contest of the year!! :scared: :-+
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[attach=2]Here are the workbenches in what I expect will be my retirement house (although that retirement process isn't going so well - I hate do drop my existing customers cold-turkey). Most of the stuff has been moved off the right-hand bench now, so both benches are fairly usable. The left-hand bench is primarily for embedded systems and other general electronics; the right-hand bench is more targeted at vintage audio and musical gear.
The workshop is based around a ShopSmith that I got a bit carried away with, and a few other machine tools. I'm now expanding into another bay of the building, which will accommodate the table saw, planer, and a few tools from this picture in a much more spacious layout.
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Mark Moulding
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An update of my lab after exactly 9 years ago I posted here (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg379901/#msg379901).
Since new photobucked's policies, my pictures are not showing anymore on that link.
Luckily I could save my pictures from photobucket, so here how my lab looked like, I just moved in to my new house back then and got one of the rooms to use it as a lab.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705687;image)
I was really happy with the new space, I thought it was big enough, and I was wrong... I wanted all my stuff in there for my hobbies, not just the electronics lab.
So... Welcome to my mess:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705633;image)
Where is your electronics bench you might ask, I still have everything and added a couple more things, (removed a lot of things I almost never used and stored away)
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705639;image)
In the old picture, you will see my old Proxxon lathe, I sold that because it was not powerful enough, it was usable but with a lot of care and patience, but I regret selling it after a while, so got myself another lathe last year, with a milling attachment, and I love it. But when I use it, I have to cover up my electronics part of my bench to avoid flying metal chips getting into the equipment.
I fully modified the lathe and milling head to my needs, converted the lathe to a VFD controller and new motor.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705645;image)
Here a full front view of the bench, electronics, airbrush and metalworking part combined on one bench.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705651;image)
I also have 3D printers as a hobby and I restore old vintage sewing machines, you don't see the sewing machines on the pictures since I keep them in another room. A man can't have enough hobbies, I guess |O
Here 2 of my 3D printers and part of the tools board, I have one smaller 3D printer on the right side. I don't use the SLA 3D printer anymore, the cleaning and curing took too much of my time...
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705657;image)
In the corner just next to the door, is a shelf with my Proxxon and battery powered Bosch tools, just in front of that I got 2 silent compressors for my airbrushing and cleaning stuff.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705663;image)
Here is a full view of my tool board, I had to find a way to store my Bosch batteries and drills, impact drivers and some other power tools, so I printed holders for those and mounted upside down on the shelf.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705669;image)
I got a small wooden drawer last week to store my most used test lead attachments and two scope probes, it is so easy to grab it from there than searching in a box full of attachments, I printed a deep holder and put it under my analog multimeter to store my test leads, there is another print next to my Owon multimeter to hold two another test leads. To keep the test leads of my Owon from my bench, printed a holder to wind it up there.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705675;image)
I really love these wooden drawers, I already had one for a while for my lathe and milling attachments/tools:
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705681;image)
I like neat and clean work environment, so I try to keep my bench always clean as possible, it is a hard task with a limited space like mine but after a day of use I store my projects in containers and put them on top shelves. So when ever you get into my hobby room it looks like just the same as on above pictures.
We do have bigger rooms, but can't agree with my wife to move in one of those, she says "Space is not your problem, you get too much stuff, and you will fill another room in couple years" Don't tell her, but I think she is right ;D
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It is a good thing that the lathe is a compact. Works well with the room. 8)
My dad also had an EMCO, but not as fancy as yours. We sold it after he moved to a retirement home.
You do have a nice setup though, very neatly organized.
We do have bigger rooms, but can't agree with my wife to move in one of those, she says "Space is not your problem, you get too much stuff, and you will fill another room in couple years" Don't tell her, but I think she is right
Yep, that is a problem with hobbies. No space is big enough :-DD
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It only takes minutes to turn back into a mess!
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Since new photobucked's policies, my pictures are not showing anymore on that link.
A big reason why using EEVBlog's image features is recommended.
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Since new photobucked's policies, my pictures are not showing anymore on that link.
A big reason why using EEVBlog's image features is recommended.
I have been using Imgur for years. However, it would seem it's started to get an increasing amount of dodgy NSFW content and a lot web filters block them now :(
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It is a good thing that the lathe is a compact. Works well with the room. 8)
My dad also had an EMCO, but not as fancy as yours. We sold it after he moved to a retirement home.
You do have a nice setup though, very neatly organized.
Thank you :) Emco is nice lathe indeed, can handle a lot for its size, for the price what I paid I could get a new Chinese lathe, but Emco is a lot better quality, my Compact 5 is from 1982 and it is still in great shape, I was planning to get it's bigger sister Compact 8, but it was just too big for my bench. It is convenient to have a lathe and milling machine.
A big reason why using EEVBlog's image features is recommended.
Back then I was using photobucket for a long time on a lot of forums, most of those forums didn't have upload functionality.
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Didn't know it degraded into such disgusting content. Haven't been back to imgur for years, since they required an account to upload photos.
Think it's the usual story. They went much more heavily ad supported. OnlyFans leaks... drives ad traffic. Money.
It's not like you can stumble on it or anything I haven't seen any, I was informed by several people it's blocked on quite a few popular lists now.
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An update of my lab after exactly 9 years ago I posted here (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg379901/#msg379901).
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We do have bigger rooms, but can't agree with my wife to move in one of those, she says "Space is not your problem, you get too much stuff, and you will fill another room in couple years" Don't tell her, but I think she is right ;D
And I thought I packed a lot of stuff into a small space. You are my new personal hero.
I do at least have a room for the electronics lab and the machine shop in the garage. I can't imagine having to clean chips and cutting oil off the electronics stuff.
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Yet another Chinese product with obvious spelling mistakes on the huge logo. I hope they will be more careful next time. |O
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And I thought I packed a lot of stuff into a small space. You are my new personal hero.
I do at least have a room for the electronics lab and the machine shop in the garage. I can't imagine having to clean chips and cutting oil off the electronics stuff.
Yeah, it is all I got, unfortunately, I designed a cover on the carriage (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5578878) to keep the chip in front of the machine, but the chips still fly all over to back, just not much as normal, I just cover the airbrush paint bottles and electronics part of the bench with a table cloth, couple minutes of work to cover those, I am not a daily lathe user, so it is manageable.
You see the biggest mess I had couple months ago in the picture below, normally I only make small pins and small parts, so there is not much chips flying around, but the work piece in the picture needed to be milled first and I took another 3mm of the face on the lathe, that leave a lot of shavings all over the room, cleaning everything took almost longer than the job itself :palm:
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An update of my lab after exactly 9 years ago I posted here (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg379901/#msg379901).
Since new photobucked's policies, my pictures are not showing anymore on that link.
Luckily I could save my pictures from photobucket, so here how my lab looked like, I just moved in to my new house back then and got one of the rooms to use it as a lab.
I was really happy with the new space, I thought it was big enough, and I was wrong... I wanted all my stuff in there for my hobbies, not just the electronics lab.
So... Welcome to my mess:
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What is the name of the system that holds all your screwdrivers, hammers, etc. I am looking for something like this too.
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Fixed, thanks
He does a fantastic job of organizing stuff and keeping the place usable. But we don't need to see the entire photo set a zillion times. Imagine if we all just blindly hit quote...
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So why did you do it then :--
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What is the name of the system that holds all your screwdrivers, hammers, etc. I am looking for something like this too.
It is called pegboard, I got it from Conrad back then, but this model does not exist anymore.
... I start to regret posting the pictures that way, I just wanted to give explanation between the pictures.
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... I start to regret posting the pictures that way, I just wanted to give explanation between the pictures.
Don't. Your post was perfectly fine and enjoyable.
It is the laziness of quoters that is the problem. Warhawk could have deleted parts of your posts in his quote to only show the picture with the pegboard.
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... I start to regret posting the pictures that way, I just wanted to give explanation between the pictures.
Don't. Your post was perfectly fine and enjoyable.
It is the laziness of quoters that is the problem. Warhawk could have deleted parts of your posts in his quote to only show the picture with the pegboard.
You're correct and I fixed my quote.
Thanks for highlighting this.
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So why did you do it then :--
To illustrate for those without imagination.
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Don't. Your post was perfectly fine and enjoyable.
Thanks, I was feeling bad, but the guys solved the issue luckily. :-+
I am trying to rearrange my multimeters on the shelf, I like to see them all (sort of showcase for myself), but it is not an easy task if you have too many multimeters, I bought an old frequency counter today so that has to be placed somewhere too.
Added a picture how it looks like now, the frequency counter will be placed on top of the function generator and the Fluke 8010A have to go somewhere else... I'll figure something out.
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Finally got my lab room clicked..
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Finally got my lab room clicked..
Holy shit Batman, how deep are them desks ? 1200mm ?
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Finally got my lab room clicked..
Holy shit Batman, how deep are them desks ? 1200mm ?
Those are about 90cm deep. I got them from a guy who makes lab tables. Metal frame with plywood planks.
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Are desks/benches ever wide enough?
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My main desk is an old, pre-LCD monitors, corner desk. It's 200cm long and has a curved 1/4 which has a depth of 160cm, the rest is 120cm deep. Sitting in my normal position I can't reach the monitors with my arms outstretched. Enough width for 2 x 34" ultra wides + 2 speakers across the desk.
Anyway. Here is my new desk "BIG" light. :) It's a 100W LED grow light. "daylight spectrum", 49% cold white, 49% warm white, 2% near IR. That's a LOT of light. I left it on while I made this post and while I'm facing away from it I can feel the heat of it on the back of my neck!
This is the kind of light that will only be on while I'm doing intrique work. It has a dimmer and might spent most of it's time at 25% or OFF entirely. I expect it will be very useful when soldering smaller components to reinforce the Mscope lights.
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What's that light on the left (if it is a light)?
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tektronix 7000 plug-ins cull, restoration, repair, this week. most circa 1970s..1980s.
jon
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tektronix 7000 plug-ins cull, restoration, repair, this week. most circa 1970s..1980s.
jon
I am impressed with your workbench - it is not often that you see a workbench deep enough that you can place a 7000 series mainframe on a workbench and still have some usable working space in front of it. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/clap.gif (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/clap.gif)
Otherwise, you seem to have the usual 7000 series and TM500 problem: too many plug-ins and not enough mainframes to plug them into.
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Srb many thanks only a fraction of TE back to 1970s.
Workbench (one of 4) was custom modified with backwards sloped upper shelf and 4' depth
has added close spaced mains outlet stripes on back shelf.
not shown... 576, TM500 MF 1,2,3,4,5,6 wide, 246xB scopes, 7104, HP SAs, calibration lab, tool chest
Jon
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That resembles a LED plant light I have. Mine has no clamp, just a really long cord so it can be hung from the ceiling.
What's that light on the left (if it is a light)?
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What's that light on the left (if it is a light)?
There are two a smaller 25W grow light I was trying, but the flexi arm it's on it is rubbish.
Then there is the "manicure" light. ;) Very, very handy, you can bring it in 4 inches over what you are soldering and turn it's CFL :( ring light on.
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There are two a smaller 25W grow light I was trying, but the flexi arm it's on it is rubbish.
Thanks. For a moment I though it looked interesting enough to try, but I won't now :)
I invested in a short overhead LED striplight which I find far too bright, so is never used. And before that I got a large LED panel light for the rest of the office (currently three LED fluorescent replacements) and that was both too bright and casting reflections in my monitor. Not to mention a bit blue. So I use that one now as a doorbell replacement...
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all the lighting in the world wont beat a head lamp. i gave up trying to find perfect lighting, which IMO is 3x AAA battery. Until I get a zero-g lab that I can position equipment arbitrarily I am always leaning and craning looking at stuff dangling etc. Ideally I need a light on the tip of my tongue so I can position it properly.
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all the lighting in the world wont beat a head lamp. i gave up trying to find perfect lighting, which IMO is 3x AAA battery. Until I get a zero-g lab that I can position equipment arbitrarily I am always leaning and craning looking at stuff dangling etc. Ideally I need a light on the tip of my tongue so I can position it properly.
The downside of a bright overhead is of course "hard lighting". If something is in shadow it's pitch black.
I have a little magnifying glass which pops up onto a stand. It has a ring of 16 white LEDs and 2 power settings. Runs off of a single AA cell, or, more useful has a 5V input with a USB plug on it.
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Hello Everyone
Long time reader and first time poster.
I wanted to share a picture of my little lab i have slowly started collecting things and plan my little escape before i retire one day. I have studied electronics over 30 years ago but have not touched it since (yeah i know was forced to come to the dark side and chose different profession). As i get older i rediscovered that i love electronics and kind of regret that i did not follow that path :( Please let me know what you all think about my set up, mind you i am y happy yet and will tweak things on the desk or shelves, any suggestions welcome.
Cheers
K
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Good on you for getting back into it.
You have a nice collection of the usual suspects there...
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I like the screwdriver/plier rack.
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I like your idea with the curtain. I have some stuff in the garage and even though the garage is competely dry and about 5*C over ambient, everything that's been left out there is covered in stuff. Either green stuff (mold, etc), orange stuff, rust, or white/green boogie snot copper corosion. I had an MCU die out there and when I went to investigate found a spiders egg sack inside it. The whole case was stuffed with white web.
I know throwing a sheet/old curtain over things isn't going to prevent all of that, but I have found that things put under sheets so look a lot better for it!
Another aspect it makes good is sun bleaching. Most of the wires on my DC solar system are pink and grey or just white as they have been sun bleached sitting in the garage window. My headphones in my office, the ear pads are now disintegrated because they got left in the sun in the window. Throwing an old current down the front of the equipment shelves when not in use should help that a lot!
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Thanks for that ... my own design :) used leftovers from the Merbau deck :)
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I like your idea with the curtain. I have some stuff in the garage and even though the garage is competely dry and about 5*C over ambient, everything that's been left out there is covered in stuff. Either green stuff (mold, etc), orange stuff, rust, or white/green boogie snot copper corosion. I had an MCU die out there and when I went to investigate found a spiders egg sack inside it. The whole case was stuffed with white web.
I use the curtain more for the dust ... no issues with the moisture normally during summer .. in winter it gets warm a little from the cars :) Also cover what i have in my garage when the door is open .. dont want unexpected guests :P
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Thought I'd post a pic of the "other side" of the lab, since it was just cleaned!
2x 21:9 34" 1440P monitors.
Ryzen 5800X, NVidia 3080.
Dell optiplex i7 4470.
Work HP Elite book and stuff.
The desk is an exe exec desk I got for £100 delivered. It's max dimensions are 2000mmX1800mm with the narrower section still 1500mm. You could literally put a single mattress on top of it and sleep there. Or under it. There is another full foot or more of desk off shot to the left. Solid heavy wooden 1+" thick top and heavy steel full frame. It weighs in at 80Kg for just the desk and I am incapable of lifting it while it's got stuff on it, even to nudge it a few inches. It takes 2 people.
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I inquired the Admin team regarding this:
I'm currently the top moderator in a subreddit called MakerLabStations (https://www.reddit.com/r/MakerLabStations/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/MakerLabStations/)) that is what this thread is but in the reddit website.
Currently is a small subreddit, with less than 2.5k users (since creation in September 2020), and no more than 20 or 30 posts. As solo moderator I can say that the requests for moderation are based in 5 or 6 in the total life of the subreddit, with one banned user because of continuous self promotion without further interaction other than promoting his own Youtube channel. So people there are well mannered and the conversation don't derail from the objective of it (plus the rules are kinda self explanatory regarding politics and off topic).
I would ask kindly if any user for some reason have a reddit account could post there their own LabStation, kinda like is done here and subscribe to it please. It would help to grow it and create a lot more diversity in the posts (and serve the subreddit to more people by being show in the side bar, kinda like Youtube serves your videos the more interaction you have with your own community and views). If not then is OK anyway, no hard feelings.
Thank you for the time taken to read this request.
This is a bump from my subreddit, first post was 2 years go by the date.
Just a reminder in case anyone uses reddit and doesn't mind publishing there.
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So my workplace (page 140) has grown a bit, I'll have to do Tetris again, I'm still missing three things - they're undergoing restoration.
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It's amazing how much you've managed to stuff into such a small space. :-+
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After one and half month (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg4674442/#msg4674442) I almost managed to put everything electronics related on my electronics bench part.
Had to print some holders here and there, also made a mains power analyzer (under the oscilloscope left) got myself a nixie counter, I like to have everything in front of me.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1741016;image)
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What are those hundreds of bottles? :o
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Vallejo airbrush paints ;)
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Thanks, but it's not all there yet and you can't see everything 😂, something is stored in the cupboard above the work surface and it's up to the ceiling and three gauges are under reconstruction. And I'm not talking about such machines as a micro-lathe, a belt and plate grinder, a drill-milling machine with the possibility of turning
I think I've mastered Tetris at a pro level🤣
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Also a well-used space, the lathe is great 👍, but something this big wouldn't fit in my bedroom, my wife would probably get a little angry 🤬🤣- the workplace I have photos of here is in the corner of our bedroom 🤣
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@Edison, that is a nice little self-made lathe :-+
You did manage to put a lot in that corner :)
I have some Proxxon's too (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1705663;image), I like their stuff, had a Proxxon PD230 Lathe before but to be honest I couldn't use it that much since I wanted to mill and turn different metals, with this Emco lathe I can even turn and cut 303 stainless steel.
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Also a well-used space, the lathe is great 👍, but something this big wouldn't fit in my bedroom, my wife would probably get a little angry 🤬🤣- the workplace I have photos of here is in the corner of our bedroom 🤣
Gee, I do not know of a wife which could tolerate that stuff in the bedroom, even in the corner :scared:
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I have more of those Proxons too, but I made the turning attachment myself and machined the A2 stainless steel screw heads on it with a 10x10 knife with replaceable slices. I still have the construction of a micro-lathe with a half-meter bed in progress, the belt sander is finished, the disc sander is waiting for the cover to be made, and I am making a new suction partition for the circular saw (around the disc lift), they were getting sawdust for the motor and aluminum sawdust in the 500W DC motor, you don't want it.
I like the Nixie counter, I'm waiting for my similar one from HP to arrive. My mains voltage monitor is built into that power strip above the desk.
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You wouldn't understand at all if you knew that I have a piece of workshop moved from the garage next to my work table (due to renovation)
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one of many benches, debugging old Tektronix 7000 plug-ins
Digital scope is Yokogawa DL1740,
Irons are my 1992 Metcal SmartHeat SP-200.
your thoughts appreciated
Jon
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Nice collection!
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your thoughts appreciated
You should start selling....
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After one and half month (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/msg4674442/#msg4674442) I almost managed to put everything electronics related on my electronics bench part.
Had to print some holders here and there, also made a mains power analyzer (under the oscilloscope left) got myself a nixie counter, I like to have everything in front of me.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1741016;image)
The problem with having everything on your workbench is that you have no room left to work.
I see you like GMC DMM's, I have a couple for sale if you have empty corners to fill.
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@shakalnokturn, I have plenty of room on the bench to work on, it is deep. If I need more space I just remove the keyboard, it is wireless.
I worked on the nixie counter a month ago (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/philips-pm6630-8-digit-nixie-counter/msg4718489/#msg4718489) and space was enough.
Nope, I don't need more Multimeters ::)
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One of my friends sold me a rack bin thingy, and I'm so excited to get some parts out of boxes on the shelf. I love using #5 coin envelops for small parts, then I can just write description/notes on them with a pencil. The bigger stuff I keep in 15-qt Hefty bins on a shelf.
-Hunter
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B0mb site again.
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https://youtu.be/PALna0OPKmg
It’s always changing. But one things gonna stay the same - a separate bench for soldering/assembly etc. idk how people work on stuff with a 12x12” workspace surrounded by junk lol.
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https://youtu.be/PALna0OPKmg
It’s always changing. But one things gonna stay the same - a separate bench for soldering/assembly etc. idk how people work on stuff with a 12x12” workspace surrounded by junk lol.
Ha! Too funny. Youtube recommended the video of your lab tour a few days ago.
When I saw the picture here, my brain was like "wait a minute.. why do I recognize this lab?"
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https://youtu.be/PALna0OPKmg
It’s always changing. But one things gonna stay the same - a separate bench for soldering/assembly etc. idk how people work on stuff with a 12x12” workspace surrounded by junk lol.
Nice, I see 4 quite nice instruments. :-+
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1948,
State of the art scope, tubes ( valves, ampoules)
j
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Junk everywhere!
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Junk everywhere!
Sympathies, brother.
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We love piccies. Bet you cant beat Jim Williams. :-DD
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Different "gauge" of stuff on the bench this weekend!
Hey look, I did some wood work! I cut an MDF board in half! That is about as much wood work as I have done in the past 10 years.
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In my room:
(https://scontent.fyxk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/330843949_754931712715089_711793798931133063_n.jpg?stp=c0.23.206.206a_dst-jpg_p206x206&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=da31f3&_nc_ohc=UtkhZyTovtwAX90p2RR&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxk1-1.fna&oh=00_AfBQN4gK9bhtynIjKb9w-h0-_ZlwFYluiQzG1KVAQzAfow&oe=64894A62)
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3 months ago my lab appeared as shown..........
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/KxRdQn.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnKxRdQnj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/ln2YjJ.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnln2YjJj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/ZjpDmn.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnZjpDmnj)
Moved to a new location. After nearly 2 months part time work my new lab is complete.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/Cl05Yg.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmCl05Ygj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/msw2om.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnmsw2omj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/0frPvp.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/po0frPvpj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/fVdRJ8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pofVdRJ8j)
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In my room:
(https://scontent.fyxk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/330843949_754931712715089_711793798931133063_n.jpg?stp=c0.23.206.206a_dst-jpg_p206x206&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=da31f3&_nc_ohc=UtkhZyTovtwAX90p2RR&_nc_ht=scontent.fyxk1-1.fna&oh=00_AfBQN4gK9bhtynIjKb9w-h0-_ZlwFYluiQzG1KVAQzAfow&oe=64894A62)
That's all you need to launch!
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Big decluttering happy with my bench now 🙂
I would like to see how you use your knees to operate those devices under the table. :-BROKE >:D
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https://youtu.be/PALna0OPKmg
It’s always changing. But one things gonna stay the same - a separate bench for soldering/assembly etc. idk how people work on stuff with a 12x12” workspace surrounded by junk lol.
Yes, other people work in really small workplaces, I originally made a small workshop in a bedroom 🤔 but after a few years it looks more like a bedroom in a workshop 😂 Beautiful workplace, I really envy you that Panasonic audio analyzer 😉
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So I thought I already had my workplace filled to the max, but since I'm mister Tetris, I'm presenting proof that it's not so 😂 I needed to add a few newly made, a few repaired pieces and I still need to place a few currently being made and a few waiting to be repaired, e.g. HP RMS voltmeter 3400, VoltOhm meter and counter with nixie or buy an audioanalyzer
Added AT680 - LC / IR meter - bought, quadruple independent voltmeter - made by me, audio load 300W 2/4/8/16 Ohm (also made special compensated cables for connecting to the oscilloscope, when the output is switched to 1:10, the range on the oscilloscope is also switched automatically) - made by me, programmable counter - made by me, programmable VU meter with real dB display - bought, Tektronix oscilloscope 2465 4x300MHz - a gift from my son - a replacement for a stolen one. Under the workplace short-circuit protection module is a blank panel into which the connectors for the rear outputs of the device, central power supply 12V 2.5A for small measuring devices and fixtures will be fitted - made by me.
The biggest problem was finding a place for the oscilloscope, the printer moved out and I made an extendable and rotating structure in its place - under normal circumstances, the oscilloscope is on the side of the workplace, if necessary, it can be extended and turned so that it gets into the space between the monitor and the keyboard. There is a neon tube behind the monitor which illuminates the control panel of the oscilloscope during night work, the power of the tube is 4W. I haven't modified the cables yet, it will be disassembled and modified
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3 months ago my lab appeared as shown..........
Beautiful, if I'm not mistaken, the middle oscilloscope in front of the window is a two-channel Sony/Tektronix - I once wanted to buy it as a monitor for a curve tracer, in the end it was the size that decided - it didn't fit, so I have a Tek 212 there.
Nice day 🙂 Tom
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3 months ago my lab appeared as shown..........
Beautiful, if I'm not mistaken, the middle oscilloscope in front of the window is a two-channel Sony/Tektronix - I once wanted to buy it as a monitor for a curve tracer, in the end it was the size that decided - it didn't fit, so I have a Tek 212 there.
Nice day 🙂 Tom
Correct. It is a Sony/Tek 314.
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My "lab" lives in a drawer.
For me, only the cheapest stuff is good enough. ;D
Nevertheless, there is a lot to learn even with this cheap stuff.
Sometimes almost too much (NanoVNA, TinySA, Logic Analyzer/PulseView, Oscilloscope, Component Tester...).
A few years ago, almost all of this would not have existed in this size and at this price.
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I love the portability of this; you could pack it into a briefcase, or small suitcase, and have a portable lab.
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If it's enough, it's beautiful 👍, but I couldn't do without a really powerful source and loads, and that's somehow not possible in such a small design. Due to the lack of space, I miniaturized to the maximum possible 🤔, even though two things have been added since the last photo shoot 😂
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If it's enough, it's beautiful 👍, but I couldn't do without a really powerful source and loads, and that's somehow not possible in such a small design. Due to the lack of space, I miniaturized to the maximum possible 🤔, even though two things have been added since the last photo shoot 😂
After all, that was just the lab.
I have a second drawer, the workshop is in there! :-DD
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Could someone please comment on color temperature for the workshop? What is your best experience for the overhead lights (e.g. soldering, etc.).
Thanks!
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It's not so much the temperature but the CRI of whatever colour - you want the highest CRI you can find. However, ignoring that I go for 'daylight', which is about 5K. The 'cool' ones of 6K or higher are just too blue, particularly inside where there is no natural light, and the 'warm' ones of about 4K or lower are too yellow now. But it's very personal, and if you're not sure I'd suggest you grab a sample of each (warm, natural, cool) to try and see which you can put up with.
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I completely agree with the CRI - below 80 is inappropriate - important for color perception, but what I disagree with is the light temperature, the so-called daylight white is in the range of 4000 - 5000K, this is the most optimal for the workspace - I personally use it manually produced light from industrial 24V LED strips 4000 K with an output of 2700 lm/m and a CRI of 95. The yellow light of the bulb is in the region of 2700 - 3000 K and the light of the halogen bulb is around 3000 - 3500 K. At my workplace I have one spotlight with a light temperature of 6000 K - absolutely luxurious light color for finding cold joints on PCB - if I illuminate a cold joint with this light, it is as if I traced a crack in the joint with a marker.
Edit: Somewhere there are photos of the lights - I think it's around page 141, I don't remember when I put it here, it can also be seen in the post about the production of soldering fume extraction - a mobile agegate in the rail next to the lights
Nice day :) Tom
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I had a personal epiphany 45 years ago whilst perusing books in an unfamiliar library. The library had stacks that were illuminated mostly with cold fluorescent long rod tubes and a central reading area that was flooded by natural light from an array of skylights. I would add it was an overcast day with medium to light thickness of cloud .
The transition of going from the stacks to the reading area was profound. Everything seemed sharper and higher definition in natural light, and the colors looked correct. Even stark contrast black print on bleached white paper was easy on the eyes. Back then I was a night owl and did most my electronics hobby or reading under relatively dim and yellowish incandescent bulbs and thought that is what I preferred.
These days I go for recreating that diffuse natural skylight in my lab as much as possible. Both in intensity, diffuseness (even distribution - important!) and color spectrum.
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Light also has a huge effect on eye fatigue, sharp transitions between light and dark are not good at all. Fluorescent tubes were also made from different °K, and interesting results could be achieved by combining tubes. Today it is easier because WWW LED chips are produced and the color can be freely configured.
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[attachimg=1][attachimg=2][attachimg=3] The suction nozzle light has 11W LED and 5500K 85CRI, a 3800K 70W special halogen spot reflector and a difference with a 6000K 3W LED spot reflector for finding cold joints.
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Magnifying glass 80 LED 5000K
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These days I go for recreating that diffuse natural skylight in my lab as much as possible.
That's also an important thing, yes - diffusion so there are no hard shadows. The old fluoro tubes were great for this, and nowadays LED batten are cool.
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Magnifying glass 80 LED 5000K
Díky :) (thanks)
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Could someone please comment on color temperature for the workshop? What is your best experience for the overhead lights (e.g. soldering, etc.).
My preference for lighting is
1- Overhead, no windows or horizontal light. All from above.
2- Diffuse. Avoid shadows, spread the sources.
3- Lots of light. Very bright.
4- Color comes in last but I usually mix cold and warm tubes.
5- I also usually have a pantograph light right at the bench so I can put it right up to the work in whatever direction I need.
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I am thinking about some of these ultra-flat panels. Additionally, I will have one or two adjustable lights (pantograph-type). I am building my tiny lab (first time in my own house) and want to make it nice and practical. That's why I ask.
Any recommended brands?
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My partner's mum is very old with poor eyesight, and needed a nice light for fixing jewellery and stuff. So I mounted one of those thin flat panels on a pantograph, from an actual Anglepoise, and she is very happy with it.
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Could someone please comment on color temperature for the workshop? What is your best experience for the overhead lights (e.g. soldering, etc.).
My preference for lighting is
1- Overhead, no windows or horizontal light. All from above.
2- Diffuse. Avoid shadows, spread the sources.
3- Lots of light. Very bright.
4- Color comes in last but I usually mix cold and warm tubes.
5- I also usually have a pantograph light right at the bench so I can put it right up to the work in whatever direction I need.
I don't agree with 4.
Light which ist too bright for long periods wears out your eyesight over the decades.
Warning from a professor doing microscopy. So be careful here.
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My preference for lighting is
1- Overhead, no windows or horizontal light. All from above.
2- Diffuse. Avoid shadows, spread the sources.
3- Lots of light. Very bright.
4- Color comes in last but I usually mix cold and warm tubes.
5- I also usually have a pantograph light right at the bench so I can put it right up to the work in whatever direction I need.
I don't agree with 4.
Light which ist too bright for long periods wears out your eyesight over the decades.
Warning from a professor doing microscopy. So be careful here.
I take it when you say "4" you mean "3"? Inflation is reaching everywhere! :)
When I say "bright" I mean reasonably bright. I have never seen indoor lighting that was so excessively bright as to be damaging but I agree that excessive light, as in the sunny outdoors can be very damaging to the eyes.
I have sailed on boats a lot and I always covered my skin, eyes, etc. Always wore wide brimmed hat, sunglasses, a long sleeves and pants. The sun's rays are very damaging. I see young women sunbathing and I see them before age 40 with the wrinkly skin of an old person.
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My lab/office is in the basement of our house built in 2020-2021. The basement was unfinished, and I hired a GC to finish it out after we moved in. I bought a dozen of these 2'x2' panels for the drop ceiling:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08YZ9HJ69 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08YZ9HJ69)
I have them on dimmer switches because they're too bright for me at full power; however I'm a bit disappointed that the 0-10V LED dimmer switches I have don't really dim them that much. It feels like maybe they dim no more than 20-30% from full. So I leave them on the fully dimmed position and sometimes they're still too bright for me. Not sure if this is the fault of the lights themselves or the Leviton dimmer switches I bought.
They are selectable between 4000K/5000K/6000K temperature, though I'm not sure what setting the electrician installed them at. I'd have to get into the ceiling to check. I believe they came set to 5000K by default, which is about where I'd want them, and I assume where he left them. I'm good with the color temperature, I just wish I had more dimming range.
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I am redoing my lab in the basement from the ground up. I like the use of the adjustable shelf system in Daves video here
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/3375/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/3375/)
Does anyone know who makes the square verticle poles + floor brackets?
I've done a fair amount of searching and have come up empty.
Thanks!
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Hi,
I left here two pictures on my current setup! Unfortunately, I need to share my desk for both purposes PC and lab, so I incorporated as better as I could be lab with the table, now that new multimeter is incoming I might need to modify a bit the setup....but let's see, at the end the shelves are not that big :-DD
I added into the structure a box with some USBs and Ethernet connected to the PC, so I can connect instruments, eval board.... really useful. Simple but happy with it for now...
Any suggestion, will be welcome ;D
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Does anyone know who makes the square verticle poles + floor brackets?
I've done a fair amount of searching and have come up empty.
Your search term should probably be "retail shelving (https://www.google.com/search?q=retail+shelving&tbm=isch)"
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I left here two pictures on my current setup!
I bet you curse every time you reach out to that soldering station's power switch :D
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Remote would help ;D . I am still on the re-organization phase since I am not 100% convince of the placement....let see how it ends I am still thinking to give more height to the shelves to be a bit more flexible....
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I recommend this solution
https://www.hurt.com.pl/listwa-antyprzepieciowa-5g-2m-marki-belkin-p9087.html (https://www.hurt.com.pl/listwa-antyprzepieciowa-5g-2m-marki-belkin-p9087.html)
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This is the lab I just took over, my own little slice of the University of Zurich. (Pardon the shakiness in the panoramic photo, I was going too fast.) Still deciding what I’ll rearrange and how, since this lab was originally born from the merger of two labs, so there’s a lot of redundancy… :P
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It's not so much the temperature but the CRI of whatever colour - you want the highest CRI you can find. However, ignoring that I go for 'daylight', which is about 5K. The 'cool' ones of 6K or higher are just too blue, particularly inside where there is no natural light, and the 'warm' ones of about 4K or lower are too yellow now. But it's very personal, and if you're not sure I'd suggest you grab a sample of each (warm, natural, cool) to try and see which you can put up with.
I agree about the CRI. In my lab & shed I use CFLs from Philips with a color temperature of 5300K and a CRI >95%. I have not found LED panels to replace the CFLs with an equally high CRI.
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This is the lab I just took over, my own little slice of the University of Zurich. (Pardon the shakiness in the panoramic photo, I was going too fast.) Still deciding what I’ll rearrange and how, since this lab was originally born from the merger of two labs, so there’s a lot of redundancy… :P
If you ever run into Niklaus Wirth, just say hi. ;D
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This is the lab I just took over, my own little slice of the University of Zurich. (Pardon the shakiness in the panoramic photo, I was going too fast.) Still deciding what I’ll rearrange and how, since this lab was originally born from the merger of two labs, so there’s a lot of redundancy… :P
If you ever run into Niklaus Wirth, just say hi. ;D
Apparently he’s at the ETH (the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich), a different university, so I’m unlikely to bump into him! :(
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Pardon my ignorance but is there a special cabinet where you store all the famous Swiss chocolate? :popcorn:
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Pardon my ignorance but is there a special cabinet where you store all the famous Swiss chocolate? :popcorn:
Special cabinet? This is Switzerland, there’s an entire room just for chocolate! :p
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I added some shelving to the left of my test bench and some new test equipment since my post earlier this year. The other benches remain the same, more or less.
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Hello, you have a great workplace, :-+ so now I envy you two things to the Panasonic audio analyzer, a Tek curve tracker has been added |O Actually three, the third is a space for work ......... ;)
Nice day :) Tom
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Pardon my ignorance but is there a special cabinet where you store all the famous Swiss chocolate? :popcorn:
Special cabinet? This is Switzerland, there’s an entire room just for chocolate! :p
Switzerland is far, it doesn't bother me, but I want that room :-DD
Nice day :) Tom
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Since it's Switzerland, chances are such rooms might be as well an entire underground bunker of chocolate! Suspecting to be so because of this: Switzerland Has 374,142 Bunkers (and likely more) (https://youtu.be/9bPIaHg11mI). :D
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Since it's Switzerland, chances are such rooms might be as well an entire underground bunker of chocolate! Suspecting to be so because of this: Switzerland Has 374,142 Bunkers (and likely more) (https://youtu.be/9bPIaHg11mI). :D
Amazing video, but I didn't see purple cows anywhere, only normal ones, they are probably in special Milka bunkers somewhere :-DD
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Amazing video, but I didn't see purple cows anywhere, only normal ones,
Also no sign of triangular almonds from triangular trees nor any triangular honey from triangular bees.
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Amazing video, but I didn't see purple cows anywhere, only normal ones,
Also no sign of triangular almonds from triangular trees nor any triangular honey from triangular bees.
and oh Mr Confectioner please, give me LSD.... I mean.....
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Since it's Switzerland, chances are such rooms might be as well an entire underground bunker of chocolate! Suspecting to be so because of this: Switzerland Has 374,142 Bunkers (and likely more) (https://youtu.be/9bPIaHg11mI). :D
Amazing video, but I didn't see purple cows anywhere, only normal ones, they are probably in special Milka bunkers somewhere :-DD
Nah, no purple cows — the Milka brand was originally Swiss, but for practically the entirety of the brand's existence, it's been manufactured in Germany. I'd say it's a de-facto German chocolate brand, and you don't see here that much.
As a consolation, I've attached a purple polar bear, which is cute as heck. (No, it wasn't a marketing gag. It was gentian violet, used to treat a skin condition.)
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Amazing video, but I didn't see purple cows anywhere, only normal ones,
Also no sign of triangular almonds from triangular trees nor any triangular honey from triangular bees.
and oh Mr Confectioner please, give me LSD.... I mean.....
Another Swiss invention! ;D
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Amazing video, but I didn't see purple cows anywhere, only normal ones,
Also no sign of triangular almonds from triangular trees nor any triangular honey from triangular bees.
Indeed. But have you heard of long eggs (https://screenshot-media.com/the-future/food/what-is-a-long-egg/)? They've all but vanished in Switzerland these days, with even ready-to-go supermarket salads using sliced real eggs, but back in the 80s and 90s they were a staple of restaurant salads, canapes, etc. I recall them as being entirely bland and looking a bit like like foam rubber due to the air inclusions. (I have a suspicion, albeit without evidence, that the yolk part was actually diluted with a lot of egg white to make it easier to slice.)
Here's a lovely German kids video about how those abominations are made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtzDaTQB1BQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtzDaTQB1BQ)
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1900593;image)
As a consolation, I've attached a purple polar bear, which is cute as heck. (No, it wasn't a marketing gag. It was gentian violet, used to treat a skin condition.)
"Skin Condition".... Suuuuure....
We all know what's going on there... That is one Woke-AF, Gen-Z polar bear!
:)
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But have you heard of long eggs?
yep,an essential ingredient in gala pie
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The purple bear could be as well the offspring of an interracial between a Milka purple cow and a Polar bear. :-//
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The purple bear could be as well the offspring of an interracial between a Milka purple cow and a Polar bear. :-//
Or maybe someone didn't sort the laundry properly and put a bear and a cow in the same wash?
McBryce.
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But have you heard of long eggs?
yep,an essential ingredient in gala pie
Surely those pies can be made with conventional hard-boiled eggs?!?
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(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=1900593;image)
As a consolation, I've attached a purple polar bear, which is cute as heck. (No, it wasn't a marketing gag. It was gentian violet, used to treat a skin condition.)
"Skin Condition".... Suuuuure....
We all know what's going on there... That is one Woke-AF, Gen-Z polar bear!
:)
Please don’t. Totally unnecessary and not funny.
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Surely those pies can be made with conventional hard-boiled eggs?!
on a small scale i guess they might,but at least one of the uks larger manufacturers made there own version of the long egg. Admittedly its been sevral years since i was in there factory so thing may of changed.
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But have you heard of long eggs?
yep,an essential ingredient in gala pie
Surely those pies can be made with conventional hard-boiled eggs?!?
Small ones, but whatever the size you get the issue that some slices will have no egg, or just white, while other slices get the full thing. BTDT. Our solution was flat egg, rather than long, since it was a round gala pie.
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So back to the topic, I have improved the options for testing audio components a bit. After making a 300W 1x2, 1x16 Ohm or 2x4, 2x8 Ohm) dummy load myself, installing a Tektronix 2465 oscilloscope, I replaced the test amplifier with a Yamaha DVD receiver and made a new patch panel. Small speakers on the sides of the connection panel will allow you to listen to the signal in artificial load mode. A rotary switch allows you to connect a test VU meter to the appropriate inputs or outputs.
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For the Yamaha receiver, I modified the power supply a little and completed a galvanically isolated five-volt branch for the stereophonic BT module 5.0, which is automatically activated when the amplifier is switched on.
I custom-made all connecting signal cables and they are connected as directional to minimize interference of the tested signal
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Just arrived today:
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Just arrived today:
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Looks very good!
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Pretty nice. I like pegboard.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/beginners/cable-storageorganization/?action=dlattach;attach=174434;image)
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Just arrived today:
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That's luxurious 👍
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Thank you. Unfortunately the PC monitor mounting didn't work out and I'm waiting for a new mounting plate from the factory. In the meantime, it is chaos, I cannot do anything on the bench or set up my gear, since I need the monitor for my job and it takes up a lot of space. I would prefer not to have a PC or monitor there at all, but I like paying the bills on time. :phew:
I'll post another picture when it is actually a workbench instead of the current status of junk pile |O
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Thank you. Unfortunately the PC monitor mounting didn't work out and I
Well that's nice,manufacturing error, or something went wrong during assembly🤔
I have a NeoFlex arm for my monitor and I made an atypical 130% extendable frame for the keyboard (to fit in the workplace, I also have a extendable and rotating Tektronix oscilloscope) there are photos somewhere, I think it starts on page 139 and then goes continuous development of the workplace, today it looks completely different than at the beginning.
So I hope that the part you need will arrive soon and you will be able to create.
Nice day 🙂 Tom
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Anyone who has pics of their labs specifically concentrating on your wires, leads, cables, spools etc? Showing your clever/good/efficient/clean ways of storing/managing/hanging them? How do you prevent them from getting all tangled up? How do you organize them?
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I live in a single wide mobile home.
And this is my balcony. Eventually will open office, but no more 2nd and above floors, first floor. If it's not 1st floor you not making money.
Station is Aoyue 2703A+, have to get it something with smaller tips and more powerful hot air.
DMM is Uni-T, the new one and OWON. 41T+
Owon PSU
LCR meter
Microscope
Owon oscilloscope 200 Mhz, I have Siglent coming.. Already ordered it in the U.S., someone will bring it to me soon.
I still have to buy ultra sound and display separating hot plate.
Plus I have to get a new chair, because with this one I have to use 0.5 barlow, otherwise my back hurts.
Xgecu T48 with adapters. Will eventually get Ennt2 for EMMC.
Target is smart phones, tablets, notebooks.
(https://i.ibb.co/KFcWkzc/IMG-3651.jpg) (https://ibb.co/f4VH5GV)
(https://i.ibb.co/4dZDBCG/IMG-3654.jpg) (https://ibb.co/wsNbD8X)
(https://i.ibb.co/VJmRXr5/IMG-3655.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4KdzB93)
(https://i.ibb.co/nDKCdzR/IMG-3656.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BgYNWqw)
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Anyone who has pics of their labs specifically concentrating on your wires, leads, cables, spools etc? Showing your clever/good/efficient/clean ways of storing/managing/hanging them? How do you prevent them from getting all tangled up? How do you organize them?
OK, so I took a walk around the bench. Holders on the scope are 3D printed with 3M double sided tape.
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Also giant paper clips to temporary route wires along the edges of the bench as well as coat hangers for wires.
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Burned most of the day trying to get this in order. Mostly done...
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Missed chance for a recursive desktop wallpaper there ;)
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Missed chance for a recursive desktop wallpaper there ;)
Hah yeah, it took me a dozen tries to get the picture to attach this time for some reason. After it finally worked, I couldn't take a chance changing it.
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Hah yeah, it took me a dozen tries to get the picture to attach this time for some reason. After it finally worked, I couldn't take a chance changing it.
Well, you filled it up nicely, I see that you slowly have less space to work with than I do
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So I made myself happy and bought a Keithley 2015 and also created an extension of the generator outputs 🤔 I really can't fit anything here anymore 😂
Merry Christmas everyone 🎄
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3 months ago my lab appeared as shown..........
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/KxRdQn.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnKxRdQnj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/ln2YjJ.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnln2YjJj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/ZjpDmn.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnZjpDmnj)
Moved to a new location. After nearly 2 months part time work my new lab is complete.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/Cl05Yg.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pmCl05Ygj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/msw2om.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pnmsw2omj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/0frPvp.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/po0frPvpj)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/fVdRJ8.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/pofVdRJ8j)
WOW! That's an entire ROOM!!!!
My lab is right now is essentially two large Ryobi duffle bags
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WOW! That's an entire ROOM!!!!
My lab is right now is essentially two large Ryobi duffle bags
Well, some have space and unfortunately some don't 🤪
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Hah yeah, it took me a dozen tries to get the picture to attach this time for some reason. After it finally worked, I couldn't take a chance changing it.
Well, you filled it up nicely, I see that you slowly have less space to work with than I do
It's ok, I also have less electronics skill and knowledge than you do. So the ratio remains acceptable :D
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WOW! That's an entire ROOM!!!!
My lab is right now is essentially two large Ryobi duffle bags
In the book Building Your Own Electronics Lab A Guide to Setting Up Your Own Gadget Workshop (https://pdfroom.com/books/building-your-own-electronics-lab-a-guide-to-setting-up-your-own-gadget-workshop/9qXgeRNe26P/download (https://pdfroom.com/books/building-your-own-electronics-lab-a-guide-to-setting-up-your-own-gadget-workshop/9qXgeRNe26P/download) - click the download button, close out the new tab, and click the download button again) the author covers setting up a couple different shops. In chapter four (page 130 of the PDF,) he covers a portable lab which sounds kind of like your duffel bags, except in a briefcase. You may be able to get some ideas to help make your current system a bit easier to use. If you have a small table that you can dedicate to a lab. chapter five (page 154 of the PDF) goes over taking a tiny table (looks like a single-person table) and turning it into a well-organized lab - page 166 of the PDF shows the completed lab. It's pretty nice, and looks simple enough.
Shameless plug: If you are looking for portable workstation, I did a project where I created a tiny lab, about the size of a three-ring binder notebook. I go over quite a bit of ideas, and show how to build something similar at http://zappbots.altervista.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=327&sid=16271453f9ef60ddf3bbc2e9f087a9af (http://zappbots.altervista.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=327&sid=16271453f9ef60ddf3bbc2e9f087a9af). If you have any questions about it (or any of my other projects there) you can just send a PM to ZappMan, and he will grant you posting privileges.
Looking back through this thread, there are lots of pictures, and ideas, for tiny work-centers similar to the ones presented in the above mentioned book in chapter five. Go back and you will definitely find ideas to make your lab.
PS Hack-A-Day just had a article (https://hackaday.com/2023/12/24/hidden-wall-mount-table-looks-like-hanging-art/ (https://hackaday.com/2023/12/24/hidden-wall-mount-table-looks-like-hanging-art/)) about a simple wall unit which you may be able to adapt to a hiding lab (if you are able to mount things on your wall.)
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It's ok, I also have less electronics skill and knowledge than you do. So the ratio remains acceptable :D
I thought you would attach the measuring equipment to the back panel above the worktop.
🤔 How do you know how much knowledge I have 🤔 maybe I'm completely stupid 😂
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I thought you would attach the measuring equipment to the back panel above the worktop.
I'm not sure it would help much unless it was high off the worktop. I am not sure how much weight the panels can hold. There are no struts, it is essentially free standing, bolted at the bottom with three brackets to the desktop and six bolts to two legs and the frame. It seems stable with reasonable weight but if overloaded, the legs would bash the wal behind it. The apartment owner would be sad... If it was my house I would arrange it differently but for now it's ok.
🤔 How do you know how much knowledge I have 🤔 maybe I'm completely stupid 😂
Well, I can see from your lab you were able to get your new Keithley under a stack of gear without destroying anything ;)
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Bonjour, sorry for the mess been REAL busy!
Your comments appreciated
Jon
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Vertical O-scopes? :o
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It's probably better for cooling than stacking them. It would give me a pain in the neck from turning my head though. A lot of older analog scopes had extra tall feet on the back so they could be used when stood face up on the floor. My old Tek 2247 is made like that.
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Well, I can see from your lab you were able to get your new Keithley under a stack of gear without destroying anything ;)
But those are mechanical skills, not electronic ones 😂
Personally, I would create an auxiliary ramp, for example, from an aluminum multi-functional structure to support the shelves and anchor it directly to the sides of the table, so the back wall would not be stressed by the weight of the devices on the shelves, but only for the cut and it must hold. The working space would thus be greatly increased.
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Vertical O-scopes? :o
Just say no to... Vertical Oscilloscopes!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2picMQC-9E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2picMQC-9E)
McBryce.
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Personally, I would create an auxiliary ramp, for example, from an aluminum multi-functional structure to support the shelves and anchor it directly to the sides of the table, so the back wall would not be stressed by the weight of the devices on the shelves, but only for the cut and it must hold. The working space would thus be greatly increased.
That's interesting but maybe my setup is better for me. I will run out of space and therefore I will save money on new equipment which I will not buy.
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That's interesting but maybe my setup is better for me. I will run out of space and therefore I will save money on new equipment which I will not buy.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, and look how it turned out 😂 Tetris and there's no place to put three things 🤣
That workplace lives a life of its own, suddenly you find out that you need this and that and you are already combining and rearranging...
Fortunately for me, I don't do RF technology, that would be another set of measuring devices and since my workplace is in the corner of our bedroom, I would have to put it on the bed and sleep standing up 🤣
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The growth continues with an expansion wing on the left side of the bench. I’m trying to use up my stash of 80/20 extrusion.
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Ground_Loop - Well, that's very good 🤔 so you're at least two meters tall, or do you need a stepladder to adjust the upper devices on the shelf and a telescope to read the values - I would have to have that with my 175 centimeters 😂
🤔It looks like a disassembled camera trap under that monitor on the left desk - I fixed one about a month ago
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Ground_Loop - Well, that's very good 🤔 so you're at least two meters tall, or do you need a stepladder to adjust the upper devices on the shelf and a telescope to read the values - I would have to have that with my 175 centimeters 😂
🤔It looks like a disassembled camera trap under that monitor on the left desk - I fixed one about a month ago
No ladder. I'm tall, and of course the camera adds 10cm. :-DD
That is indeed a camera. My wife has wildlife cameras all over the property and that one has a failed IR LED driver. I think I can get it working.
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Ground_Loop i envy the space to work, unfortunately I have nowhere to expand, too bad the cracked handle at the HP 😥
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Of course. I should have looked there first. The thumbnail is showing up now, maybe eventually I'll be able to expand it.
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Ground_Loop i envy the space to work, unfortunately I have nowhere to expand, too bad the cracked handle at the HP 😥
New handle on the way thanks to a mate down under (Brumby).
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Today I finished my setup for audio testing, unfortunately my K2015 THD didn't fit on this shelf due to the depth, so I used the rear input and made a connection point next to the load. I redesigned the connection panel a bit and added a DC fuse control for the test speakers (blue light - OK, red light - DC voltage at the output of the tested amplifier - speakers disconnected) The fuses have separate GND for the Left and Right outputs.
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Somehow, the attachment with the overall view did not load. The bright one on the far right are Japanese sliding panels that can be used to completely hide the workplace
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Very compact. I like it, it has a cosy feeling to it.
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A little trick with the Tektronix oscilloscope
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Your comments appreciated
Jon
Great desks to work on, I love Tektronix and HP technology, I also used to have a TEK modular system in my old workshop, unfortunately it won't fit in my current workplace.
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I have been watching this guy lately.
Zenwizard Studios
https://www.youtube.com/@ZenwizardStudios/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@ZenwizardStudios/videos)
Right now only about 2.3K subs.
I can see him growing. Very good and vintage Tektronix repairs.
Here is a recent video of his bench tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuhlNFnH24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svuhlNFnH24)
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I've been following him for a long time, he's very good :-+
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You're using an active load to test amplifiers or why do you bring the THD meter's input next to it?
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Thanks for the shout out! I am also lurking here from time to time if there are any questions.
Zen
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You're using an active load to test amplifiers or why do you bring the THD meter's input next to it?
Hi, the connection point for the Keithley 2015 was added due to the need to place this meter on the other side of the work site (due to its depth). When measuring distortion, I don't need to run connecting wires all over the workplace, just a short jumper between this added point and the load. The connection between the measuring input and the rear input 2015 is made by a massive shielded cable which is routed outside the route of the power line for safety. If I need an accurate measurement, I connect directly to the 2015 with a cable
Edit:The load is a passive 2x300W with active cooling - my own production - a Tektronix oscilloscope is connected to special rear outputs - the output has the possibility of a range of 1:1 and 1:10 when it is switched, the ratio will change and at the same time the voltage levels on the oscilloscope will automatically change.
The BNC in the front is used to connect, for example, an analyzer or a digital oscilloscope, just as with measuring devices, only one output - front or rear - is always active, so that they cannot influence each other
Nice day 🙂 Tom
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Thanks for the shout out! I am also lurking here from time to time if there are any questions.
Zen
Hello, your workplace is absolutely luxurious :-+, I envy the space (and some measuring devices 😁)
Nice day 🙂 Tom
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Question about size!!
I am planning a new workbench at a dedicates area at my office. It´s a 3x3 m and I am considering two sizes
160x80 which looks to be a standard size widely available (Ikea Trotter for example)
or
180x90 which is not standard and take my to the realm of woodworking
I own some relatively deep instruments like Aim TTi MX100TP and my desire is to hace enough free space in front of the instrument tower, for the pcb or DUT without taking space from working area.
More size, more DIY woodworking
Less space, standard size. This is my dilema
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There is never enough space. Get the biggest workspace you can and in a short while it will be too small.
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The deeper the better. You can overcome some of this with overhead shelves but otherwise a lot of test gear/supplies etc will see you left with a very thin strip on the front to actually work on.
In my case the bench I use is only 700mm wide (length of the actual work area is about 1800mm) but apart from the Soldering stations and a Micsig Table Scope everything else is up on shelves. This leaves room for a keyboard and a wall mounted monitor but otherwise the desk remains free as a work surface.
Some time ago before I got the 23" wall mount display.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=803457;image)
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The deeper the better.
(https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/whats-your-work-benchlab-look-like-post-some-pictures-of-your-lab/?action=dlattach;attach=803457;image)
If that's a bottle of wine I can fully understand its necessity sometimes.
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It falls under the heading of Lab chemicals and is far better for you than drinking 99% IPA >:D
Looks like a Bottle of Grant Burge Port in this case but can also be substituted with a nice single malt Scotch or sometimes even a good Gin.
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Question about size!!
More size, more DIY woodworking
Less space, standard size. This is my dilema
I would definitely choose 180x90, I fondly remember the work tables at work and in my old workshop (which was stolen), they had these dimensions, at home I could not install this depth because of the depth of the space where I have a workplace. It didn't bother me so much before because I lost the equipment, but over time the workplace got a bit full and you can't work on bigger things or have deep equipment - today I have a space two meters wide and 70 cm deep, the table top is 160x60 and that's too much little.
Nice day 🙂 Tom
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It falls under the heading of Lab chemicals and is far better for you than drinking 99% IPA >:D
Depends which acronym you meant by IPA. Here, that means India Pale Ale ;)
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Good
like luck to your liver if your Pale Ale is 99% :-DD Mine is fine at 4.5% this evening.
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1189011446210756640/1209421014501691392/20240220_194626.jpg?ex=65e6dc17&is=65d46717&hm=eae2c30c3e3005ac4f856c6fcd9db2de9c33ccfec29b4cade065707770c2475e&=&format=webp&width=620&height=826)
phone 'autocorrect' is the devils spawn.....
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Good beer is cheaper than water here. And we drink it accordingly ;)
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It falls under the heading of Lab chemicals and is far better for you than drinking 99% IPA >:D
Depends which acronym you meant by IPA. Here, that means India Pale Ale ;)
In a recent visit to WA, a few hours from Bean, we discovered IIPA :popcorn: < 2 of those and you are wasted ! :-DD
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It's been tidier!
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Finally got a nice 19" rack and made my dream signal recovery cart - NIM bin, multichannel analyzer, lock-in amplifier, chart recorder, and auxiliary gear!
I think it turned out marvelously! (Post #4310 in this thread)
OK, so I know what all that lot does (although I'm curious about a lock-in amplifier in that company). But where's your HPGe?
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Holy tight spaces Batman!
On the other hand, you literally only have to swivel your chair to go from your computer desk to your workbench... Efficient! Creative use, getting the most out of available space.
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I added two 8U 19" racks to my workbench:
All 3d printed parts are here (https://www.printables.com/@mhwlng_888536/collections/1225154)
(https://i.imgur.com/6nIZ0fa.jpeg)
current contents:
- Ugreen 200W usb charger
- Rigol DHO924s oscilloscope
- Riden/Joy-it RD6006 power supply
- Owon DGE2070 function generator
- Owon XDM1041 multimeter
- LED lighting
There's still space left ;)
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That looks very good 👍
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Here is a workshop tour from Mend It Mark (Mark Maher / Perton Electronics).
https://www.youtube.com/@MendItMark/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@MendItMark/videos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWBDrqGmTnQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWBDrqGmTnQ)
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Here is a workshop tour from Mend It Mark (Mark Maher / Perton Electronics).
Mark has an absolutely luxurious workplace and it will be even better 🤔 I don't know anything 😶 let's be surprised 😁
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When you have small room (or when you're too lazy to clean your bench), floor is bench!
Yes, I also sleep right next to this. Live Laugh Lead. This photo was taken a while back. I have since not improved much.
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When you have small room (or when you're too lazy to clean your bench), floor is bench!
Yes, I also sleep right next to this. Live Laugh Lead. This photo was taken a while back. I have since not improved much.
My back and neck hurt just looking at that. :-\
Wire shelves on casters could really help reclaim all that space. Push your work-surface in front of the shelves. Put the instruments at eye-level with component storage above and heavier stuff below.
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Ya know... about a year ago, it looked something like this. Ever since my projects have gotten more complex. My issue is space for stuff. My room is about 8ftx8ft, or about 2.5mx2.5m for those of you who use metric.
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That was nice. Too bad your gear acquisition syndrome is only going to get worse. Seek help before it's too late. ;D
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When you have small room (or when you're too lazy to clean your bench), floor is bench!
Yes, I also sleep right next to this. Live Laugh Lead. This photo was taken a while back. I have since not improved much.
My back and neck hurt just looking at that. :-\
Wire shelves on casters could really help reclaim all that space. Push your work-surface in front of the shelves. Put the instruments at eye-level with component storage above and heavier stuff below.
I very much doubt that that workbench would hold the weight of even one of those Tek 7000 mainframes. It will require something considerably sturdier to hold even half of those instruments.
However, you have to be a pretty dedicated Tek fan to service one of those mainframes on the floor.
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Well, it's a massacre, but there is always a solution, I also work in a small space and the working position of my Tek 2465 is in the air on a pull-out shelf. 🤔A simple modification would help here, raise the bed and create a workplace under it :-DMM