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When will MS replace the NT-kernel in windows?
tooki:
--- Quote from: Karel on January 20, 2024, 10:40:06 am ---The last step missing is the replacement of the NT kernel with the Linux kernel.
When do you think this will happen?
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Never, because doing so doesn’t make sense. It’d be a huge risk with no obvious reward.
AndyBeez:
My opinion, other than the use case for domestic personal computers, who in the real power user world is using NT architecture? Even in the SOHO, NT is becoming a relic of a bygone era. A quick look around my personal tech zone here and... [pause]... there is my legacy laptop with Windows XP. I switch it on sometimes for retro gaming. Everything else, OSX or Linux. Businesses to campuses, personal devices to the cloud, the centre of gravity has moved parsecs away from the Windows black hole that crushed money in exchange for limited data security. The Linux genie is so out of the bottle that you cannot touch anything containing software that is not running a distro in one form or another. Controversially, Azure remains a cloud player only because it is heavily reliant on Linux under the hood(?). Replacing NT Kernel? Unlikely, as a MS will have gone broke long before a new "it's not Linux" kernel reaches the long term support phase. The OS world is also shifting away from the North American/IBM/MS model of cumbersome corporate software provision to an Asian model of faster, lighter, cheaper and adaptable. India or China is from where the next great OS will emerge.
Think NT Kernel, think steam locomotives. There are many enthusiasts who like to romanticise the past imperfect.
madires:
--- Quote from: tom66 on January 20, 2024, 02:05:41 pm ---The Windows operating system and NT kernel are quite fundamentally different to Linux which is based on a POSIX-like architecture.
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One of the original goals for NT was POSIX compatibility. Another interesting thing is that NT is based on OS/2 (joint developement of MS and IBM) and VMS (MS hired a group of developers from DEC). Originally NT was also meant to be OS/2 compatible, but MS went for the Windows API after Windows 3.0 turned out to be quite successful.
mendip_discovery:
--- Quote from: nctnico on January 20, 2024, 04:13:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: Jeroen3 on January 20, 2024, 03:52:23 pm ---Why would Microsoft dump the NT-Kernel?
That would alienate their customers. Do you know how much tooling depends on Windows?
You know, tooling that people use to actually do work. No I don't mean office. I mean CAD software and such.
There is decades of work in tools like Altium, Eplan, ArcGIS, Revit.
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The makers of those tools should have started porting to Linux a long time ago. Linux is much more suitable to run CAD software compared to Windows anyway.
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Linux has had an issue for years and it is much like the one that Apple has. It is not the OS but the user base. There are some rather toxic *nux users out there. I use it but I don't use it for my daily driver.
DimitriP:
--- Quote ---Think NT Kernel, think steam locomotives. There are many enthusiasts who like to romanticise the past imperfect
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Lose the wheels. Antiques!
--- Quote ---The OS world is also shifting away from the North American/IBM/MS model of cumbersome corporate software provision to an Asian model of faster, lighter, cheaper and adaptable. India or China is from where the next great OS will emerge.
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