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When will MS replace the NT-kernel in windows?
CatalinaWOW:
There are two things going on here. The technical problem and the social problem.
The essence of the social problem is the OPs demand for a switch to an environment that meets his needs and that he is familiar with. His counterpart is easy to find in the Windows world. I try not to be that person, but I'm not far from it. I am not a software professional or a fanatic software hobby person. I really don't care about kernels, or drivers, or such. I care about simulations and models and photo editing and text editing and all of the end services provided by the machine and the software system.
For the most part the Windows system could handle all of my needs clear back at Windows 95, while at that time Linux wasn't up to many of those tasks. Now Linux has largely caught up, but there are issues. All large and powerful software packages have a steep learning curve, and while GIMP can do everything I need, I haven't gotten nearly as far up its learning curve as I have with the Windows counterparts. MS commercial practices have driven me from MS Office to Libre Office, but I still can't use it as well as the old system. And my investment in document automation is totally lost, and as nearly as I can tell in some ways not possible to recreate. This list goes on and on.
Both environments share a common problem, although the driver is different in the two environments. Both want continual "improvements", most of which don't have much benefit to me as a standalone user. MS needs to drive new sales, my purchase of an Office Suite 20 years ago is of no business benefit. The Linux world spends an inordinate amount of time on new and shiny. Everyone has their own almost compatible distro, with much emphasis on whether there are rounded corners on windows and other similar cruft. I don't discount the technical improvements in both systems (larger memory models, automatic HW configuration, etc.) but to be honest these are luxuries, not core requirements for my use case. I can also see the need for better security features, but I also can solve that problem pretty easily by isolating my system.
A long winded diatribe, but both environments would benefit from a step back and figuring out why anyone wants their product at all. Apple and various hardware vendors have decided that the large market is web shopping and social media. I don't think they are wrong, but neither of those really requires much of an OS.
JohanH:
--- Quote from: PlainName on January 22, 2024, 11:59:07 pm ---
--- Quote ---p.s.: Two years ago MS hired Lennart Poettering (systemd inventor) who was working for Red Hat...
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Windows is going to be even more fucked than it is now.
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I don't understand the hatred for this guy. And I've followed the whole systemd debacle since the start, read his blogs etc. I guess, he was too clever and too outspoken for the mob. It for sure brought out all the ugliness you can imagine in the circles; the amount of trolling and hatred by his critics I haven't seen since (except in politics). But what it takes to have development and invention (and society) make huge jumps is guys like him that are visionaries and able to realize the ideas, too. I for my part admire him. If anything, he will do good things at Microsoft.
Karel:
--- Quote from: JohanH on January 23, 2024, 08:13:16 am ---
--- Quote from: PlainName on January 22, 2024, 11:59:07 pm ---
--- Quote ---p.s.: Two years ago MS hired Lennart Poettering (systemd inventor) who was working for Red Hat...
--- End quote ---
Windows is going to be even more fucked than it is now.
--- End quote ---
I don't understand the hatred for this guy. And I've followed the whole systemd debacle since the start, read his blogs etc. I guess, he was too clever and too outspoken for the mob. It for sure brought out all the ugliness you can imagine in the circles; the amount of trolling and hatred by his critics I haven't seen since (except in politics). But what it takes to have development and invention (and society) make huge jumps is guys like him that are visionaries and able to realize the ideas, too. I for my part admire him. If anything, he will do good things at Microsoft.
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I guess if he should have respected the general "Unix" philosophy that tools should do only one thing and do it good,
the reception should have been much better. Instead, he created a monster that wants to do and control everything.
What will be his next step? Creating a Linux registry for all settings like windows does?
JohanH:
--- Quote from: Karel on January 23, 2024, 11:00:32 am ---
I guess if he should have respected the general "Unix" philosophy that tools should do only one thing and do it good,
the reception should have been much better. Instead, he created a monster that wants to do and control everything.
What will be his next step? Creating a Linux registry for all settings like windows does?
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That's just repeating the same conspiracy crap. Can't we just go forward now.
PlainName:
--- Quote from: JohanH on January 23, 2024, 11:10:37 am ---
--- Quote from: Karel on January 23, 2024, 11:00:32 am ---
I guess if he should have respected the general "Unix" philosophy that tools should do only one thing and do it good,
the reception should have been much better. Instead, he created a monster that wants to do and control everything.
What will be his next step? Creating a Linux registry for all settings like windows does?
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That's just repeating the same conspiracy crap. Can't we just go forward now.
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Isn't it looking at what is actually hitting the metal?
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