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Offline smaultreTopic starter

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My friends, i won a lot on eBay, but seller not receive payments from international paypall accounts  :palm:, and do not ship to forwarder companies.
I need some, who can pay for (from US acc), receive item, and re-ship to my US forwarder address (or to me directly).
I pay you via paypall + your interests.
Can anybody help?
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It may help if you offer to pay the US "helper" up-front, including all the shipping estimates from their place to yours (or the forwarding US address). Also, if I'm not mistaken, if your account has won the items how does someone else intervene and pay the seller on eBay on your behalf? Why don't you just cancel the purchase and walk away, since the seller didn't specify all the restrictions when you bid?
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Offline smaultreTopic starter

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Yes, i need US "helper" to make a payment. I pay first to "helper", than he pay to seller. 
Cause it great thing for its money. Its a company, maybe they have some government restrictions for export such type of electronics :-//.
I won, seller cancel the purchase. We discuss that, he can sell it to US account.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2020, 06:17:42 pm by smaultre »
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I would find someone in person to help you with this, its kinda shady to do on the internet
 

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My mail-forwarder locates on Delaware it's preferred to be near of this state.
I will pay first, and its my own risk, yep it need to be the good known member of this community..
the more PayPal insures payments between users.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2020, 06:58:30 pm by smaultre »
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Something else to be aware of. International air freight carriers have just recently almost doubled their rates. I'm now stuck, with a large item sitting at my reshipper in LA California, cost to ship to Australia about double what I expected. And more than I can afford atm. I'm probably going to leave it there till after Christmas, hoping the rates go back down again.
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My mail-forwarder locates on Delaware it's preferred to be near of this state.
I will pay first, and its my own risk, yep it need to be the good known member of this community..
the more PayPal insures payments between users.

Whoever you pay you want to use "friends and family" so there is no insurance, no fees, and you can't get your money back.
Then somehow they pay the ebay seller, but not sure how that would register on the site without going through your account.
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Seller was relisted my scope(((. Maybe anybody can "win" it for me? it need to be shipped to My mail-forwarder in Delaware ?
You win, i pay for you, then, you ship it to Delaware.
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You win, i pay for you, then, you ship it to Delaware.

This is not that easy, as you don''t know how much the helper will win bidding at the end, hence you can not send the money in advance at the right number, while the helper also understandably if he hesitates to bid without your money in hand.

Unless, the helper really-really trust you, and vice versa that after winning the bid, that you will send your money, not leaving the helper.  :P

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Why you always seek for fraud from me.
Buyer can redeem their bid for a short time, whem auction is ended..
You really think if i am a swindler, i'm goes so hard way???
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well I have seen craigslist too good to be true prices on high dollar items where people say that the item must be purchased on a ebay listing 'for your eyes only' that will be listed at some kind of specific time you agree upon on ebay through cragislist and email communication. Clearly a scam, not sure how it works, but they use eBay (normally pretty bulletproof). Understandably people are paranoid about creative scams because of things like this.

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I don't think anyone is trying to give you a hard time, it's just a lot to ask of someone who doesn't know you.  This sort of arrangement are often used for fraud, so people are naturally skeptical.  Also, given that you're in Russia, there are export restrictions to consider, which are a big pain in the US.  If it turns out that the oscilloscope falls into a restricted export category that can turn bad for a person who helps you (fines and worse are possible, even if not super likely).  This is probably why the seller will not ship to a freight forwarder or accept payment from international accounts.  If they deal with a lot of test equipment, they almost certainly handle export-controlled items, even if your scope is not one of them, and doing the compliance work probably isn't worth it to them for selling used gear.
 

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well I have seen craigslist too good to be true prices on high dollar items where people say that the item must be purchased on a ebay listing 'for your eyes only' that will be listed at some kind of specific time you agree upon on ebay through cragislist and email communication. Clearly a scam, not sure how it works, but they use eBay (normally pretty bulletproof). Understandably people are paranoid about creative scams because of things like this.
Yes i've seen some kind of this item, where seller "wants" 2000$ for a >>10-20K$ items and ask for a deal in paypall..
Another way is a "scam link" where "ebay.com" modified to any other scam sites.
But here is a technical professionals? i'm sure ;)?

I don't think anyone is trying to give you a hard time, it's just a lot to ask of someone who doesn't know you.  This sort of arrangement are often used for fraud, so people are naturally skeptical.  Also, given that you're in Russia, there are export restrictions to consider, which are a big pain in the US.  If it turns out that the oscilloscope falls into a restricted export category that can turn bad for a person who helps you (fines and worse are possible, even if not super likely).  This is probably why the seller will not ship to a freight forwarder or accept payment from international accounts.  If they deal with a lot of test equipment, they almost certainly handle export-controlled items, even if your scope is not one of them, and doing the compliance work probably isn't worth it to them for selling used gear.
Export restrictions, yes i think, it's the right thing, seller not have such time, to analyses every sold item, to comply for export rules, and "ban" all of these for international shipments..

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this is part of reason why people don't like messing with things like ITAR

https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-15/how-texas-plumbers-truck-wound-isis-hands

in this case, not relevant, maybe high speed heavy industrial centrifuge parts.
 

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Thank you friend, for associate me with ISIS..
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Thank you friend, for associate me with ISIS..

Its the US that makes up these silly ITAR rules to supposedly stop military tech from getting into the wrong hands. I'm pretty sure someone who has the budget for building an ICBM would also have the budget to smuggle some parts.

Some ebay scrap resellers also get hands on things that might get covered under ITAR (it can be as simple and harmless looking as a thermal camera that works at higher than 7fps) and they technically would go to jail if they sell it to someone outside the country without appropriate paperwork. So they just choose not to sell internationally to avoid the issue.
 

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I am just telling you what people tend to think about when it comes to ITAR/overseas sales.
 

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Why you always seek for fraud from me.
Buyer can redeem their bid for a short time, whem auction is ended..
You really think if i am a swindler, i'm goes so hard way???

Always ? Ha..ha.. so where is the 1st time I did that ?  ::)

Looking at your reaction there, its CRYSTAL CLEAR your are a fraud that working with the scammer seller or your friend in US, or may be you're the seller him self.  :-DD

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"always" i'm means that several people looked me as that way.
 I'm think you're quite "paranoic"..
 Sorry about my English, i have not so much to practice for..
I think we can collaborate, and be helpful for each other.
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I have a quite good seller\buyer reputation on Ebay, and specialized on the Bruel&Kjaer test equipment.
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see it from other peoples point of view, before starting this topic you had less than 30 posts probably and you need someone to trust you over quite a bit of undisclosed money.
 

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For starters a link to the Ebay item would be extremely helpful to see what kind of item all the fuss is about. That should have been in the starting post and not a vague description like 'a lot on Ebay'.
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

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There's no secret's https://www.ebay.com/itm/LECROY-44XI-OSCILLOSCOPE-POWERS-ON-NO-OTHER-TESTS/293867961382
I'll bought (win) it last time, but seller was cancelled my order  :(
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You may find this difficult to accomplish.  At one time in the not-too-distant past, that item would have been an export-restricted oscilloscope because it has a sample rate of greater than 2.5GS/s.  To send it to you in Russia a seller would be required to 1) obtain an export license and 2) verify that the end user is not using it for military, nuclear, rocketry or a bunch of other things.  I don't know if the most recent rules would still include that unit in the export restrictions, but I wasn't able to verify that it was not in them in 5 minutes of casual reading.  There's no common sense involved in the process and most sellers simply aren't going to take a chance.
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Chinese (or European) new scopes goes over 20Gs and more, and can be freely purchased by government or military e.t.c. 
I'm the hobbyist only, this series of Lecroy is pretty good for home (compact, high performance) and low cost valued.
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Chinese new scopes goes over 20Gs and more, and can be freely purchased by government or military e.t.c.

Which is irrelevant.
 


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