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Who wants to buy a Fry's store with me?
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riyadh144:
Well, the thing is I want it to be self sustaining, and to have it be that I would want it to be able to sell profitable hardware, such as computer components and TV's That would be a core part of the business of making it sustainable.

But as you said it doesn't need to be the size of fry's as that would be unnecessary at best.

Another thing that could help in my opinion with space is the trend of working from home and abandoned offices which in my opinion would result in the crash of the commercial real state giving us cheaper path to a place.
Saying that actually made me realize that this might actually harm us in a way as there will be less population concentration in the future, which will make our business slower and less appealing.
ataradov:
Starting a new retail business is not a good idea. Nobody would want to buy a TV from you. You would have to spend millions on marketing first so people even know you exist.  And you would not even get the stuff at a good price from suppliers with the low volume. So I'm not sure how that can ever make any profit.

The only path that makes any sense is a maker space with membership fee.
riyadh144:
Yeah that is a great point but I will say again the motive isn't to be profitable, the motive is to be sustainable. Yeah didn't think of the fact that we would be getting merchandise at a high price. Great point there.
Stray Electron:

--- Quote from: riyadh144 on February 28, 2021, 03:38:36 am ---Well my argument for that would be the following, I do go to the store to be inspired for the community, to talk to people who are like minded.
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   If that's your goal, then open a coffee shop! Serious.


--- Quote --- And by integrating a maker space in that it will enhance the sense of community.
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    I don't see how any maker space will ever be able to break even much less make a profit. The insurance covering people doing stupid things must just eat them alive! And I can only imagine the horrors of what some people would do to expensive equipment that they don't own!


--- Quote --- And by removing the profit motive it will drive prices down.

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   Ha! Ha! Umm Nope! A completely different market.

   Face it, Fry's had a big head start in this market, and were initially successful, and if they couldn't even stay in business, you're not going to be able to start a new business and make it profitable or even break even IMO.

   Have you ever talked to the owner of a business and asked what it costs to start a new business these days and the amount of time that THEY have to put into running it?  If you haven't, you should!

   Frys and most stores like it are as dead as Sears! (and Woolworth's and McCrorys and K-Mart).  And they're not going to return!
Stray Electron:

--- Quote from: ataradov on February 28, 2021, 04:17:56 am ---Starting a new retail business is not a good idea. Nobody would want to buy a TV from you. You would have to spend millions on marketing first so people even know you exist.  And you would not even get the stuff at a good price from suppliers with the low volume.

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  Great points. I briefly worked in a TV shop in the early 1980s and the owner wanted to retire so he tried to sell it to me. But I could look around and see that the TV repair business was already a dying industry.  Try to find one today!  Also I noticed that the Big Box stores were selling TVs for less than that our cost!  So again there was no profit to be made there.  Even in the few months that I worked there, I could see that people weren't buying from us but were buying from the Big Box stores instead but they immediately brought their TVs to use when they wanted them repaired under warranty! And the TV manufactures paid peanuts for repairs! All around it was a dying business so I got out and went to work elsewhere.

   In the last 30 years the same thing has happened to virtually all of the small independent computer shops that used to actually sell components and actually build computers. They've all been replaced by either mail-order or the Big Box stores that sell pre-built and pre-bundled computers.
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