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Why do so many people here go nuts over very low quality gear from China?
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jadew:

--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on December 21, 2019, 01:11:06 am ---It's tangential, the point I'm making is that the decision to purchase is price based not a misleading spec sheet. While I don't agree in principal on falsification I don't think this is a major factor in harming the local market.

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--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on December 21, 2019, 01:11:06 am ---For the price paid it's fair quality and often better. If I pay for a cheap plastic case and that's what I receive why is this crap? That meets my requirements. Sure I would like the 1000x more expensive case but I did not pay for it (I could have but I did not).

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You are arguing against something that sits at the basis of our society: one's word.

If a seller tells you he's going to sell you the 1000x more expensive case, for the price of the cheap one, and you're getting the cheap one, you didn't get a good deal, you were conned.
Bud:

--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on December 20, 2019, 08:44:10 pm --- Emphasis on 'Assembled in the USA' is legal racism which company's are  exploiting in their local market.

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Yes, yes. Proud to live in a racist country eating racist food.  :-+


all_repair:

--- Quote from: Bud on December 21, 2019, 01:34:38 am ---
--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on December 20, 2019, 08:44:10 pm --- Emphasis on 'Assembled in the USA' is legal racism which company's are  exploiting in their local market.

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Yes, yes. Proud to live in a racist country eating racist food.  :-+

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If you tell what product your company make, people can make you even more proud by letting only the Buds buy them.
blacksheeplogic:

--- Quote from: jadew on December 21, 2019, 01:19:14 am ---You are arguing against something that sits at the basis of our society: one's word.
If a seller tells you he's going to sell you the 1000x more expensive case, for the price of the cheap one, and you're getting the cheap one, you didn't get a good deal, you were conned.

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But they are not, they selling the $50 widget you compared to a 10K$ widget and comparing it's got a crappy case. I'm saying it's acceptable based on the price paid.
Red Squirrel:

--- Quote from: BravoV on December 21, 2019, 01:08:42 am ---I guess a lot of people here want this great golden era to come back, where everything were made, manufactured domestically.

An example just for simple very popular Simpson 260 multimeter, forget about more advanced tools like oscilloscope or even VNA.  :scared:



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Honestly I don't think it would be THAT bad.  You would pay more for higher quality (at least I would hope they would make it higher quality!) but no matter what they would still have to price it at a price point that people will buy it.   I would be willing to pay more either way *IF* it's higher quality, has better support, and if we had right to repair bill set in stone.  Basically, I would not mind if the cost of consumer items like tools and toys went up say 2-3x, BUT that they were built with essentially life time ownership in mind.   When you look at how much money you spend on everything, items are actually a small part of that.  Its costs of living such as bills and taxes that take up most of your pay cheque.

Right now companies save a lot by outsourcing manufacturing to China, they are NOT passing those savings on to the consumer.  Just look at how expensive an Apple product is. 

If some kind of law was passed where manufacturing has to be done locally immediately, I could see the prices of everything skyrocket, but it would stabilize.  I don't think they would go as low as they are now, but with all these new jobs created it would overall be better for the economy.  More tax payers and less people on social services could even mean that taxes could come down which is one of the largest costs of living so at the end you would have more money.  (at least in theory... we all know governments would never actually lower taxes).

That said there is nothing wrong with the availability of really cheap low quality stuff but it would be nice if we still had access to the higher quality stuff too.
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