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| SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: tautech on December 21, 2019, 06:34:24 am --- --- Quote from: Red Squirrel on December 21, 2019, 03:10:00 am ---If some kind of law was passed where manufacturing has to be done locally immediately, I could see the prices of everything skyrocket, but it would stabilize. I don't think they would go as low as they are now, but with all these new jobs created it would overall be better for the economy. More tax payers and less people on social services could even mean that taxes could come down which is one of the largest costs of living so at the end you would have more money. (at least in theory... we all know governments would never actually lower taxes). --- End quote --- Yeah, Trumps dream ^. Instead tariffs are implemented to dissuade buyers from buying imported goods and importers margins get cut to absorb tariffs such is the inter-brand marketplace competition. Buyers win, gubbermints win with increased tariff revenue to spend on their hobby horses. Alternatively, multi-national corporates raise their middle finger to producing in a country and take their production facilities elsewhere where they will be welcomed with open arms for the new employment opportunities they offer. There is no simple solution. --- End quote --- Each person/family/business only has so much disposable income. If the prices of some goods go up (e.g. due to tariffs), what do they do? If they HAVE to have it, they will pay more (and have to buy less of something else to make up for it, which is damaging to the rest of the economy). If they don't HAVE to have it, they might buy something else instead, something that makes them equally happy. Which is not damaging to the economy, but affects those that LIKE the tariffed products disproportionately to those who don't care. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: all_repair on December 21, 2019, 12:42:51 am ---" The problem is that often that is very quickly revealed, and what do consumers do? They buy the widget any way. A good examples were Uni-T meters advertising Cat IV ratings, it was pretty obvious they did not meet the spec, but not only did their meters continue to sell but the masses came out and defended the meter. Bottom line, the consumer is purchasing based on price almost exclusively, they then insistently complain it's low quality, it's robbing jobs from the local market, it did not meet the spec etc. " I think consumer is much smarter than we think. Most of these spec or regulatory requirement are not affecting them, and not paying for those "spec" is what they have chosen. For spec that really affect them, they shall react immediately like the false capacity claimed by some battery makers. --- End quote --- The thing is, it costs nothing to not lie about the specs. If I buy a "100MHz" oscilloscope and find out it's only capable of 50MHz I'm going to be upset that I was lied to, even if the price is quite reasonable for a 50MHz scope. I might still buy it if it will meet my needs and the price is fair and there is no reasonable alternative but I'm still not going to be happy. Maybe lying about specs really does boost sales in China, I fully admit I know virtually nothing about Chinese culture and mindset but I don't think it does them any favors in the west. I'm hopeful that their business culture eventually shifts as they start to realize this. |
| Kilrah:
I think you put way too much importance on something everyone seriously interested knows is not to be relied on. It's common knowledge that specs on cheap Chinese stuff are BS, and I don't know anyone who buys such stuff based on them. They ignore them, go watch a few reviews, and decide based on that. The specs just provide for a good laugh based on how wrong they were, and that's about it. |
| james_s:
I don't buy based on specs because I know the specs are usually pure BS. That doesn't make me any happier about it, if I had the choice between two identical devices, one with bogus specs and one that was honest, I'd buy the honest one every time even if it cost 10% more. |
| blacksheeplogic:
--- Quote from: james_s on December 21, 2019, 08:22:15 pm ---I don't buy based on specs because I know the specs are usually pure BS. That doesn't make me any happier about it, if I had the choice between two identical devices, one with bogus specs and one that was honest, I'd buy the honest one every time even if it cost 10% more. --- End quote --- I don't disagree with you that the behavior of lying on spec sheets is bad and we know the reality. However, all-most all consumers based on my observed behavior will purchase the 10% cheaper version. |
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