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Why do so many people here go nuts over very low quality gear from China?
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ogden:

--- Quote from: Bud on December 19, 2019, 05:12:13 pm ---You do not need to own a harmonic based architecture  VNA to know its deficiencies. Everything OP said is true.

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Why you guys are so obsessed about fact that nanoVNA in it's harmonics mode (above 300Mhz) have poor performance?  |O That is no secret BTW. Up-to 300MHz it works pretty well.
GeorgeOfTheJungle:
I don't think chinese gear is garbage any more. Look at the esp32 for example, there's nothing like it. Or the Micsig STO1104C, pray tell what western world scope is like that. They make things that for the price just can't be made in the western world. I was looking the other day for a PoE chip, and the SiLabs evaluation board (*) is 70 something $, for that money I can buy 17 complete PoE ready to go chinese isolated splitters, complete with case and cables.

(*) https://www.silabs.com/power-over-ethernet/powered-devices/class-3-15w
SilverSolder:

Capitalism 101:  "If you don't like it, don't buy it"
jadew:
Regarding aliexpress dispute system, let's not kid ourselves, after you've marked the transaction as complete or the protection time is out, you are done.


--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 19, 2019, 05:21:02 pm ---Capitalism 101:  "If you don't like it, don't buy it"

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That's true, but again, this is not a free market and I'd like to hear about ideas on how to work against this as a business. And by this, I mean the fact that the chinese seller has all the incentives to be disingenuous, cut corners and lie to the customer, while the local manufacturers have to play by the book.

For example, a local company wouldn't risk selling something without thoroughly testing it and wouldn't market specifications that they can't verify, because if they did that and invested in production, and then sold their product to 1000 people and then, 6 months down the line they all find out that the product has a critical flaw that makes it more or less useless for most of what it was specified, then maybe 700 people will return their products and that will bankrupt the manufacturer. A chinese business doesn't have this issues, and that's why they get away with shoveling garbage.

So, what you're fighting with as a business, is not only cheap products, but bad products that are marketed as cheap good products. How do you combat this?
BravoV:

--- Quote from: SilverSolder on December 19, 2019, 05:21:02 pm ---
Capitalism 101:  "If you don't like it, don't buy it"

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Problem here is ... "I dont like it, but somehow I keep buying it, hence I whine a lot ...  :-DD
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