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Why do so many people here go nuts over very low quality gear from China?

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ogden:

--- Quote from: jadew on December 19, 2019, 05:36:12 pm ---So, what you're fighting with as a business, is not only cheap products, but bad products that are marketed as cheap good products. How do you combat this?

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It is already said million times: don't buy. In general I agree that there are many products that are made to defraud naiive buyers. Unfortunately you picked one of worst possible examples (NanoVNA) to prove your point because that product actually have good price/performance ratio.

p.s. Where is used 300MHz VNA for 40$?  :-//

Bud:
Many EEVBlog forum members are guilty to have heard instinct. It only takes a prominent forum member to make a post about some wonderful piece of cheap shit he got and everyone will rush to buy same shit and empty the sellers stock in no time. Good for the seller.

magic:

--- Quote from: Bud on December 19, 2019, 05:49:58 pm ---Many EEVBlog forum members are guilty to have heard instinct.

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$10 process calibrator? ;)

I had a good laugh when I first saw the video about it being a POS and only then the original thread ;D

Kilrah:

--- Quote from: jadew on December 19, 2019, 05:36:12 pm ---So, what you're fighting with as a business, is not only cheap products, but bad products that are marketed as cheap good products. How do you combat this?

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That is not an issue. Someone who isn't able to figure out and take the cheap products for what they are is never going to buy your good expensive one.
There is no such thing as someone being discouraged from getting a given tool because a cheap one didn't have the required performance.
If they still need the tool and can afford the good one that's assured to get them what they need they'll get it.

But I don't see so much competition there. In the hobby market most of those who buy the cheap stuff would not buy the good expensive tool in the first place if it was the only thing that was available. They get the cheap one becasue unlike the other they can afford it and the amount of cashe that gets immobilized into it is reasonable compared to the usage they'll be making of it, and the good one often does way too much compared to their actual needs.

I've bought a couple dozen cheap tools and I've never been disappointed, I've actually been positively surprised more than once. But then again I looked up in advance what they were capable of, so if it's such a problem I guess that's too much to ask now?

Also the Chinese stuff often has somewhat "gimmicky" features but that can actually turn out to be quite useful sometimes and that "serious" manufacturers would never consider becasue they're not "professional" enough.

jadew:

--- Quote from: ogden on December 19, 2019, 05:49:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: jadew on December 19, 2019, 05:36:12 pm ---So, what you're fighting with as a business, is not only cheap products, but bad products that are marketed as cheap good products. How do you combat this?

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It is already said million times: don't buy. In general I agree that there are many products that are made to defraud naiive buyers. Unfortunately you picked one of worst possible examples (NanoVNA) to prove your point because that product actually have good price/performance ratio.

p.s. Where is used 300MHz VNA for 40$?  :-//

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You keep pushing the idea that it's food from the heavens, when I just showed you that it's not. Click those links, see for yourself. Also, it's marketed as a 900 MHz VNA, not a 300 MHz one, and no, it's not great under 300 MHz either.

Regarding the $40 VNA, I'd like to underline the fact that you don't have a $40 VNA that works either, and yours can't be fixed.

I actually got a 6 GHz VNA for ~$200 several years back. It was a fixer-upper but I got it working.



--- Quote from: Kilrah on December 19, 2019, 06:06:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: jadew on December 19, 2019, 05:36:12 pm ---So, what you're fighting with as a business, is not only cheap products, but bad products that are marketed as cheap good products. How do you combat this?

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That is not an issue. Someone who isn't able to figure out and take the cheap products for what they are is never going to buy your good expensive one.
There is no such thing as someone being discouraged from getting a given tool because a cheap one didn't have the required performance.

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I don't think that's true. It's clear that these purchases are an effect of impulse buying (otherwise they'd buy something from a reputable manufacturer). This means that the impulse buyer, if the impulse is strong enough, could actually buy a quality product that would serve him well and help the market.

On the other hand, maybe it's better for the impulse buyers themselves to just buy cheap stuff, but that's not as clear, because he's basically conned into it, and it's hard to make a case for that.

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