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Why do so many people here go nuts over very low quality gear from China?
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Kilrah:

--- Quote from: jadew on December 19, 2019, 06:21:06 pm ---
--- Quote from: Kilrah on December 19, 2019, 06:06:03 pm ---That is not an issue. Someone who isn't able to figure out and take the cheap products for what they are is never going to buy your good expensive one.
There is no such thing as someone being discouraged from getting a given tool because a cheap one didn't have the required performance.

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I don't think that's true. It's clear that these purchases are an effect of impulse buying (otherwise they'd buy something from a reputable manufacturer). This means that the impulse buyer, if the impulse is strong enough, could actually buy a quality product that would serve him well and help the market.

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Depends on the price difference, but usually in test equipment it's large enough that this has no chance of happening.

I will "impulse buy" a $100 tool, but a $1000 one will not go through without thorough reflection of whether I really need it, how much I'm going to be using it, and whether I can find an alternative solution. Most of the Chinese tools <$100 I'll get one "just in case" and not care whether I actually end up using it, but the day I do I'll be happy with my purchase.
schmitt trigger:
Remember the old saw:

"If it is too good to be true, then it is not true".

"Caveat Emptor".

"A sucker is born every minute".

And many similar.

Deceit in sales is as old as mankind itself.
I am pretty sure that in ancient times during the bartering process of -let's say, certain amount of sheep for certain amount of olive oil, perhaps a sheep in the flock was sickly, and some of the fresh oil had been mixed with stale one.
ogden:

--- Quote from: jadew on December 19, 2019, 06:21:06 pm ---You keep pushing the idea that it's food from the heavens, when I just showed you that it's not.

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I say that NanoVNA works upto 300MHz, provided screenshot, you did not show anything that disproves that.


--- Quote ---Click those links, see for yourself. Also, it's marketed as a 900 MHz VNA, not a 300 MHz one, and no, it's not great under 300 MHz either.

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Define great. Every VNA shall have specs same or better than industry leading boat anchors costing (new) > 2000$? Thats nonsense argument.


--- Quote ---Regarding the $40 VNA, I'd like to underline the fact that you don't have a $40 VNA that works either, and yours can't be fixed.

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NanoVNA works. Proof is all around the internet. Seems, you choose to ignore everything that do not match your beliefs and fallacies.


--- Quote ---I actually got a 6 GHz VNA for ~$200 several years back. It was a fixer-upper but I got it working.

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So even broken VNA was 5x times more expensive than 40$. You disproved your own claim that for 40$ there are better options. - There are not.
ebclr:
This isn't for your market only, is from every market from chairs to VNA's 

The fact is that China is killing all industries, in any part of the word, and as time passes China's quality increase, and other markets decrease due to low quantity markets. I guess is too late, and  China is starting to take a bite of high end, things also look at the 1st Rigols Scope and look at the latest, we must admit that the quality increased a lot.

The only real problem in China products is the Chinglish and do not have real aftersales support, but sooner or later they will learn these also.

Unfortunately, this is an incontestable reality, and the situation just keeps worse, while they improve, and now are starting to play the innovators  rule.
maginnovision:

--- Quote from: magic on December 19, 2019, 05:56:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: Bud on December 19, 2019, 05:49:58 pm ---Many EEVBlog forum members are guilty to have heard instinct.

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$10 process calibrator? ;)

I had a good laugh when I first saw the video about it being a POS and only then the original thread ;D

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The difference with that is the parts were worth way more than the units. I stripped one of mine for a project and I'm probably up $40.
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