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Why do so many people here go nuts over very low quality gear from China?
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CajunSTD2:
Pure and simple because they see a value in buying this so called "garbage".
I am starting into this hobby because my wife has two old jukeboxes, a Pacman Game, and electro/mech Pinball machine.
I don't need anything better than Chinese branded tools, they have way good enough specs for my needs.
As a big time Harbor Freight buyer, I am well aware of what i am getting. 
My money is better spent on my family than some piece of gear with more capability than I need.
If I find that it no longer meets my needs I am not out a large amount of money and can upgrade to better quality.
Also if I decide that this is not my forte, now i have to try and sell this gear, and recoup my cash.
Why buy a Ferrari if you only need a Kia?
thm_w:
Wait, didn't go into production? So this product was designed, built, and tested?

Why not post the details in another thread and we can actually have a useful discussion here about your design.
all_repair:
If so many people are nuts, and you are not nut then does it tell more about you than others.
One observation I have made here is there are more and more people going nuts here.  I am a long time nut, and enjoy being so.  Frankly I do not want others to become nuts, so I can enjoy my advantages forever.

Nuts or not nuts, don't deal with the dropshippers.  There are so many on ebay, banggood, etc.  They are the roots of the problems to buyers and also original Chinese makers.
jadew:
@CajunSTD2, you must be thinking that I'm being insulting to people buying this stuff. I'm not, and as I said before, even I am guilty of doing it. I'm actually doing my best to describe what I see when I look at these products. As unfortunate as that word is, it's the best I can come up with, without having to list a number of assumptions people make when they look at them and think otherwise. I'm not blaming the customer for not realizing/knowing those things, because they're not as obvious as for other devices, like a drill press or a vise, and not everyone is supposed to know them anyway.

Also, don't think that I don't get your point. It's a very good one. There is certainly a need for what you're describing, and I understand pretty well how this came to be, but the fact that it creates difficulties for local manufacturers is undeniable.

@CatalinaWOW, again very good points, but I'm already leveraging Chinese manufacturing wherever possible. Any more than this and I'd risk getting cloned in week 2. I assume a bigger company would have better options when working with China.


--- Quote from: thm_w on December 20, 2019, 01:28:41 am ---Wait, didn't go into production? So this product was designed, built, and tested?

Why not post the details in another thread and we can actually have a useful discussion here about your design.

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Yes. I might actually do that.


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--- Quote from: all_repair on December 20, 2019, 01:30:22 am ---Nuts or not nuts, don't deal with the dropshippers.  There are so many on ebay, banggood, etc.  They are the roots of the problems to buyers and also original Chinese makers.

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Very difficult to do that. I think eBay is full of them.
Bud:

--- Quote from: CajunSTD2 on December 20, 2019, 12:56:45 am ---Pure and simple because they see a value in buying this so called "garbage".

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VALUE? If ou will read what these people write you will typically see kind of "it only cost a few bucks, what do i have to lose, Ali will refund me if anything", followed by WEEKS of nervous posting of their refund status.


--- Quote ---My money is better spent on my family than some piece of gear with more capability than I need.
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Keep it that way my friend

--- Quote ---Also if I decide that this is not my forte, now i have to try and sell this gear, and recoup my cash.
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You must be kidding. WHO will want your garbage? You will pay more in fees trying to sell.
--- Quote ---Why buy a Ferrari if you only need a Kia?
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because you do not know any better.
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