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| jadew:
--- Quote from: all_repair on December 20, 2019, 02:01:23 am ---Yah, he does not even do a proper research. nanoVNA was by hobbyists and for hobbyists. If nanoVNA is his competitor, there is no respect given to his competitor. Unlikely his shall be open-sourced, and nanoVNA is open-sourced with contributor all over the world. Add a more powerful version 2 is round the corner. --- End quote --- Jeez, you just wouldn't stop with the NanoVNA... Well, I guess if it was made by a hobbyist and it's open-source, then it's all fine and we can ignore the massive qty of product that the manufacturer is moving using false advertising. :-+ |
| Red Squirrel:
--- Quote from: jadew on December 19, 2019, 03:26:40 pm --- --- Quote from: SerieZ on December 19, 2019, 03:15:01 pm ---Work against the Free Market? --- End quote --- I wouldn't really call it a free market when there are tons of laws for me and none for them, but that's a much more difficult issue to tackle. --- End quote --- That's the part I hate the most about this situation. They can sell all sorts of stuff here even if it's unsafe and burns your house down and there is absolutely zero repercussions. Meanwhile if someone here designs a high quality product that is safer, they are still not allowed to sell it unless it meets tons of requirements and certifications that are extremely expensive to get. The playing field is not level at all. Governments should be encouraging people to manufacture stuff locally, not discourage it. Either lift the requirements for us, or apply them to foreign sellers too. One or the other, but make sure the playing field is fair for everyone. |
| jadew:
--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on December 20, 2019, 02:15:50 am --- --- Quote from: jadew on December 19, 2019, 03:26:40 pm --- --- Quote from: SerieZ on December 19, 2019, 03:15:01 pm ---Work against the Free Market? --- End quote --- I wouldn't really call it a free market when there are tons of laws for me and none for them, but that's a much more difficult issue to tackle. --- End quote --- That's the part I hate the most about this situation. They can sell all sorts of stuff here even if it's unsafe and burns your house down and there is absolutely zero repercussions. Meanwhile if someone here designs a high quality product that is safer, they are still not allowed to sell it unless it meets tons of requirements and certifications that are extremely expensive to get. The playing field is not level at all. Governments should be encouraging people to manufacture stuff locally, not discourage it. Either lift the requirements for us, or apply them to foreign sellers too. One or the other, but make sure the playing field is fair for everyone. --- End quote --- I was actually having a discussion with someone about this topic and one of the theories that was being thrown around was that governments don't want to have anything to do with any low-end manufacturing, and only foster high-end stuff, but I don't know what to think about that, because IMO, all high-end manufacturers have to start small, otherwise only already big enterprises can give birth to other, already big enterprises. Could this possibly be the piece we are missing? Edit: For example, the WEEE legislation sets a very firm bar for hobby-level manufacturing in many countries in the EU. |
| ogden:
--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on December 20, 2019, 02:15:50 am ---Either lift the requirements for us, or apply them to foreign sellers too. One or the other, but make sure the playing field is fair for everyone. --- End quote --- Result could be infinite shipping times for all parcels, including those containing legal & quality products. If you are concerned about those some who buy cheapest low quality appliances w/o warranty from China, then don't. - They are not buyers of quality products anyway. I would not bother about nominees of Darwin's award. |
| wilfred:
--- Quote from: all_repair on December 20, 2019, 01:30:22 am ---Nuts or not nuts, don't deal with the dropshippers. There are so many on ebay, banggood, etc. They are the roots of the problems to buyers and also original Chinese makers. --- End quote --- How do I tell if I'm buying from a dropshipper? I have no idea. I don't want to buy from dropshippers because I don't see they add any value. Unless maybe I get the goods faster should I need that. But I'm not sure even that necessarily is a given. |
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