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| jadew:
--- Quote from: wilfred on December 20, 2019, 02:49:59 am --- --- Quote from: all_repair on December 20, 2019, 01:30:22 am ---Nuts or not nuts, don't deal with the dropshippers. There are so many on ebay, banggood, etc. They are the roots of the problems to buyers and also original Chinese makers. --- End quote --- How do I tell if I'm buying from a dropshipper? I have no idea. I don't want to buy from dropshippers because I don't see they add any value. Unless maybe I get the goods faster should I need that. But I'm not sure even that necessarily is a given. --- End quote --- That's the fun part, you can't tell. If you ask them something, they rely it back and forth. |
| all_repair:
--- Quote from: jadew on December 20, 2019, 02:11:16 am --- --- Quote from: all_repair on December 20, 2019, 02:01:23 am ---Yah, he does not even do a proper research. nanoVNA was by hobbyists and for hobbyists. If nanoVNA is his competitor, there is no respect given to his competitor. Unlikely his shall be open-sourced, and nanoVNA is open-sourced with contributor all over the world. Add a more powerful version 2 is round the corner. --- End quote --- Jeez, you just wouldn't stop with the NanoVNA... Well, I guess if it was made by a hobbyist and it's open-source, then it's all fine and we can ignore the massive qty of product that the manufacturer is moving using false advertising. :-+ --- End quote --- You are still not getting it. Thing happens not for no reason, and why it is selling well is not due to the "false advertising" as you want to believe. A hobbyist bought, he was likely someone who was trained and owned few boat-anchor himself. A veteran in the industry, and started his RF career before many of us were born. An influencer in his ham club. He was so impressed, and now he could have one that allow him to climb up his mast in his pocket, then he gave a talk in his club, and the wild fire spreads. This is easily known from some reading on the open forum, but wishing it away as "false advertising" is also another way. If you are not targeting the hobbyist market then you have to compare yours with China gears that is targeting workshop that need calibration certificate. |
| jadew:
I changed the name of the topic, in the hope that it will stop the tangents. |
| all_repair:
--- Quote from: wilfred on December 20, 2019, 02:49:59 am --- --- Quote from: all_repair on December 20, 2019, 01:30:22 am ---Nuts or not nuts, don't deal with the dropshippers. There are so many on ebay, banggood, etc. They are the roots of the problems to buyers and also original Chinese makers. --- End quote --- How do I tell if I'm buying from a dropshipper? I have no idea. I don't want to buy from dropshippers because I don't see they add any value. Unless maybe I get the goods faster should I need that. But I'm not sure even that necessarily is a given. --- End quote --- Those that are able to sell to you in English is likely a dropshipper than not. Some Chinese maker do sell direct on aliexpress with help from friend who is slightly better than him in English. Those who do sell on ebay likely has a English forum on google or yahoo, and you need to dig them up. Some you cannot avoid to buy from trader/dropshipper unless you ask friend who can buy direct on Chinese platform like taobao or jd. These Chinese maker strength and value is not in doing English support on English platform. They are craftsmen and would rather not sell to someone who they don't like. |
| BravoV:
Why not send one of the prototype to Dave for evaluation, "if" its good and has great value ? Or reputable forum member here, again, "if" its much better than NanoVNA , its not that hard right ? Ask your parent how the Japanese automobiles industries at early 60s up to 70s, and then they basically wiped out major car manufacturers in the world, starting from 70s up to 90s, and not a secret that most big players in European countries were struggling so hard just to survive, event with great protection by their own government. An exception is for German's automobiles industry that keep thriving until today, learn this lesson from this history instead of pointlessly whining. |
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