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| Why do so many people here go nuts over very low quality gear from China? |
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| jadew:
I think I'm narrowing in on the actual reason. So far, I agree with most of what was posted on the subject, I too would buy a cheap product if it was good enough. However, sweatshop products are sometimes not that. Don't conflate Rigol & Co with them, because they're playing different games. Identifying those good products takes a certain level of skill, and I think that becomes more difficult when we're talking about RF. So far, the disagreements seem to be centered around various misunderstandings and differences in how we evaluate a product. --- Quote from: james_s on December 20, 2019, 05:14:08 pm ---If you can find me a proper VNA for ~$50 that doesn't take up my whole bench I'll buy it today. Until then the NanoVNA is looking pretty good to me, I don't do enough RF stuff to need a "real" instrument, all I really need is the ability to measure passive filters and such. --- End quote --- Fair point, so you only need it for no more than a couple of measurements of passive filters up to 300 MHz? If the answer is yes, then I have absolutely nothing to say against it. |
| blacksheeplogic:
--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on December 20, 2019, 09:36:46 am ---When this kind of comments start to pop up (in bold), well it's hard to separate what is a on topic conversation or something that is going to go out of hand fast... Well then I'm sorry if it wasn't the meaning of this, I must have misjudged then. --- End quote --- I feel this thread has become a thinly veld China is the root of all evil in the market thread. Ignoring the product aspect (which has been discussed in detail), the other context I get from this thread is China has an unfair advantage because they don't have to build widgets to the same standards and this is therefore creates an unfair market advantage for them. This is ass backwards thinking and shifting blame. China gains a advantage here because local consumers are willing choosing to purchase products outside of their local market and deciding for themselves what (if any) standards they feel need to be meet. It's really a case of everyone else should have to pay for for these standards and play by the rules in my local market except me. If the consumers are willing to pay for the quality and standards China would meet them, they not forcing these products into the local market, far from it it the local consumers doing it to themselves. In terms of labor costs and standards, every country has unseen exploiters making quick profits from people. The labor cost advantage in China has largely gone as their local industry has to complete for people and skill, what they do have is an advantage though scale because of the manufacturing scale means suppliers are also local. BUT, on the whole high quality products from China are still expensive and further more China has to compete with those products again considerable west consumer prejudices against the country and it's people. Emphasis on 'Assembled in the USA' is legal racism which company's are exploiting in their local market. |
| Bud:
--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on December 20, 2019, 08:44:10 pm ---. China gains a advantage here because local consumers are willing choosing to purchase products outside of their local market and deciding for themselves what (if any) standards they feel need to be meet. --- End quote --- Bullshit. For the huge variety of products we are not given a choice anymore, ALL of it is produced in China. You cant choose. |
| bd139:
You have to go knock on doors closer to home to complain about that problem... |
| tautech:
--- Quote from: bd139 on December 20, 2019, 09:57:20 pm ---You have to go knock on doors closer to home to complain about that problem... --- End quote --- Nope, it's a worldwide issue and solely based on corporate greed. |
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