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| vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: m k on September 21, 2022, 01:28:52 pm --- --- Quote from: m k on September 21, 2022, 01:13:37 pm --- --- Quote from: themadhippy on September 21, 2022, 12:36:20 pm ---Id argue many early inventors were no more than patent thiefs who had enough cash to pay off the original inventors,marconi didnt invent radio,bell didnt invent the telephone and edision didnt invent anything but all get credited for others work --- End quote --- Nobel invented something. (1/4) --- End quote --- Tesla also. Is Lavoisier a big name? At least he kicked flogiston out. (3/6) It's publicity and herds that want to be with winners. --- End quote --- Nah! Tesla took the already invented concept of polyphase power & made it a practical reality, just as Marconi did with radio. Tesla talked a lot about how he "invented radio", but he played around a bit & let it lapse, without using it in any practical way. |
| pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: boB on September 22, 2022, 01:09:46 am ---The big gun has to have some brains, obviously... After that, the main thing is that the person (people) that start the company have to take the risk of devoting time and money to getting the product(s) ready to sell. If there are investors, they will be part of that risk and get rewarded as well. Of course, the company has to design something that people will want to buy and also have some business chops. --- End quote --- You left out the workers to make the product. Without them you can have all the brains you want, but end up with nothing to sell. Yes there certainly is risk involved so you need someone with the proverbial balls to make it happen. It is often also EGO that drives it all. There are examples of some with just an average brain, but a lot of ego to make things happen even after failing with some adventures. Then there is of course GREED that also drives a lot. Take the latest with Elizabeth Holmes. Here the investors thought there were big bugs to be made due to a well told fairy-tale. --- Quote from: james_s on September 21, 2022, 10:47:23 pm ---This is just human nature. The celebrity types, the people with the looks and charisma, those that were in the public eye, they become well known, fame brings attention and more fame. --- End quote --- Sure human nature, but there are many levels in this from having some respect, to sheer adoration, and the latter I don't grasp. But that is psychology :) --- Quote from: james_s on September 21, 2022, 10:47:23 pm ---That doesn't bother me nearly as much as all the nitwit "influencers" and reality stars and whatnot that are famous for what, being famous? --- End quote --- Yes this is something that is completely beyond me too. How this works I mean. In the Netherlands at some point there was this very asocial family with nothing to bring to the table then well being asocial. Can't remember how it came to be, but they appeared on TV, and the next thing you know is that they where invited to events to make an appearance and the crowds went crazy over it in some sort of adoration :palm: But again, that is psychology and above my pay grade :o --- Quote from: james_s on September 21, 2022, 10:47:23 pm ---At least people like Jobs and Musk and whatnot DID contribute something technical. Charismatic businessmen are needed and they do make a valuable contribution. Without businessmen like Steve Jobs, George Westinghouse, Thomas Edison, and others, the brilliant creations of guys like Wozniak and Tesla would be nothing more than laboratory curiosities. --- End quote --- Yes without doers we would be nowhere, still living in a cave most likely. But the doers would be nowhere without the thinkers. So we basically need each other to get things done. |
| strawberry:
--- Quote ---Yes without doers we would be nowhere, still living in a cave most likely. But the doers would be nowhere without the thinkers. So we basically need each other to get things done. --- End quote --- if it is physics property, everything should balance eventually |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: strawberry on September 21, 2022, 09:55:07 pm ---Elon got lucky with Paypal. He might be curious about rockets and stuff but he is not engineering them --- End quote --- He is. You may say his job title of chief engineer at SpaceX does not resemble reality but he actually decides what will go into the rocket and what will not. He's at Boca Chica rocket site most of the time BTW. Here is a video he talks about how rocket engine works, it gets more technical at about 9 minutes mark. |
| m k:
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on September 22, 2022, 03:50:31 am --- --- Quote from: m k on September 21, 2022, 01:28:52 pm --- --- Quote from: m k on September 21, 2022, 01:13:37 pm --- --- Quote from: themadhippy on September 21, 2022, 12:36:20 pm ---Id argue many early inventors were no more than patent thiefs who had enough cash to pay off the original inventors,marconi didnt invent radio,bell didnt invent the telephone and edision didnt invent anything but all get credited for others work --- End quote --- Nobel invented something. (1/4) --- End quote --- Tesla also. Is Lavoisier a big name? At least he kicked flogiston out. (3/6) It's publicity and herds that want to be with winners. --- End quote --- Nah! Tesla took the already invented concept of polyphase power & made it a practical reality, just as Marconi did with radio. Tesla talked a lot about how he "invented radio", but he played around a bit & let it lapse, without using it in any practical way. --- End quote --- Heron of Alexandria (jet engine) (4/8) E, Pythagoras (5/9) |
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