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| b_force:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 23, 2022, 08:27:04 pm --- --- Quote from: pcprogrammer ---Still to me no reason to idolize --- End quote --- Quite a few times in this thread you've suggested that people are 'idolizing' the 'big guns', with Jobs in particular being an example. I think you're being overly derogatory, albeit possibly unwittingly, in using that term. For most of us, we don't idolize these people but we recognise and appreciate the contribution they've made to furthering things. Jobs could be a dick and Apple's walled garden is, ah, not a preferred option, but the iPhone was a jolly impressive thing at the time and pretty much dictated the way all future mobile phones would go. That is really impressive, but in recognising it you're not idolizing anyone. Similarly, Musk is a <expletive censored> and basically takes over someone elses bandwagon, but who else has put a private rocket in space? Not just that but running a taxi service for NASA! By any stretch that's impressive. If you appreciate that you're no necessarily idolizing him - indeed, you might actively loathe him at the same time. --- End quote --- The technology itself, incl the old OLD Apple computers were never top notch compared to the competition. Most of the time they weren't even the first at all with a certain product, like the iPod (there were already (many) mp3 players on the market) The only thing that Apple products makes impressive, is the simplicity of the controls and the interface. This was the main thing Jobs understood extremely well, people want things simple, not convoluted. Something which seems very difficult to understand for people who are involved in tech. Especially for engineers and software programmers. |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: b_force on September 23, 2022, 08:47:17 pm ---The technology itself, incl the old OLD Apple computers were never top notch compared to the competition. Most of the time they weren't even the first at all with a certain product, like the iPod (there were already (many) mp3 players on the market) The only thing that Apple products makes impressive, is the simplicity of the controls and the interface. This was the main thing Jobs understood extremely well, people want things simple, not convoluted. --- End quote --- If you look at the products made relatively recently, actually Apple hardware was top notch in many cases. Like smartphone CPUs having 1.5 -2x better performance than the next best competitor (Qualcomm Snapdragon). Last generation Snapdragon caught up though, but still is noticeably slower. |
| SiliconWizard:
And they are crushing competition again with the M1 and M2 way outside of the mobile world. Mind blowing stuff. |
| EPAIII:
"Standing on the shoulders of giants..." Don't we all? |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: b_force on September 23, 2022, 08:47:17 pm ---The technology itself, incl the old OLD Apple computers were never top notch compared to the competition. Most of the time they weren't even the first at all with a certain product, like the iPod (there were already (many) mp3 players on the market) The only thing that Apple products makes impressive, is the simplicity of the controls and the interface. This was the main thing Jobs understood extremely well, people want things simple, not convoluted. Something which seems very difficult to understand for people who are involved in tech. Especially for engineers and software programmers. --- End quote --- High performance was never what the early Apple computers were known for. They were inexpensive and offered a lot of bang for the buck, and they were well documented, the Apple red book contained complete schematics and theory of operation, they were very hackable. The 80s Macs were very expensive and I never had one at the time, but looking back they were vastly ahead of IBM clones of the same era, but the clone offered more for the price. |
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