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| pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: james_s on September 24, 2022, 04:32:13 am ---High performance was never what the early Apple computers were known for. They were inexpensive and offered a lot of bang for the buck, and they were well documented, the Apple red book contained complete schematics and theory of operation, they were very hackable. --- End quote --- The same goes for the TRS-80 from Tandy (Radio Shack), but there was no follow up into the computer market to make it into current day competition. Sure they had the color computers but that is it. Same for commodore, and other brands of the day. So Apple did something impressive to get where it is today, but to me I have always found it to be overpriced. I don't like paying for just the name, and I know that is over simplifying, but it is seen for other brands too. You pay a premium for the name. Because the latest iPhone may be a couple of times faster or have more memory then a simple Alcatel one, it is not near as much as the price ratio. But people stand in line for them when the latest is to be released :palm: |
| pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 23, 2022, 08:27:04 pm ---Quite a few times in this thread you've suggested that people are 'idolizing' the 'big guns', with Jobs in particular being an example. I think you're being overly derogatory, albeit possibly unwittingly, in using that term. For most of us, we don't idolize these people but we recognise and appreciate the contribution they've made to furthering things. --- End quote --- Am I? You can speak for yourself that you are similar to me and do not have this level of idolization for others, but can appreciate what they did for society, and maybe some others you know of, but take a look around and extend it to not just the "big guns", you will see that many people have an overly high level of idolization or addoration. Maybe these are not the correct terms for it, but I can't think of another. Maybe Nominal Animal can word it better. Let me share some anonymous quotes of recent outings here about a certain person being criticized. To me that shows a bit to much of putting the guy on a pedestal. Or having a severe man crush. Just read the thread it provided these. I have pointed to it somewhere back in this thread. It is not as bad as these quotes make it to be. At least not in my perception. --- Quote ---You reckon Dave Plummer an “idiot”? He’s anything BUT. The guy is basically a savant. Bit rude, to put it mildly. --- End quote --- --- Quote ---This thread has devolved into an aspie ego-fest. Invest some days in watching Dave’s videos - ALL of them if you wish - and learning about this lovely man. He’s a kind, witty and utterly brilliant man. He’s also a millionaire, and you don’t become a millionaire from being stupid (unless you perform a heist). Grow up, buffoons. --- End quote --- --- Quote ---The general theme of your reply, is “but then again I don’t know”. Let’s take that and you not knowing anything about Dave P., and making character judgements based on wild speculation and ignorance, and summarise that you just couldn’t resist judging him. This is called “gossip”, and no one likes a gossip. --- End quote --- --- Quote ---A fact that seems to have escaped people here, due to being hyper-obsessed over his electronics theory... he's not claiming that this is an electronics tutorial - the LED is merely a means to and end, where that end is observing pin state. Also, SINCE it's not an electronics tutorial, maybe he's wise enough to have a pre-leaded LED with inbuilt dropper resistor... but then, I suppose looking at it from a logical perspective like this, doesn't give people the fury they so desire to deride him. He's no idiot. Only true idiots automatically assume all others are idiots. --- End quote --- |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 24, 2022, 06:07:57 am ---Because the latest iPhone may be a couple of times faster or have more memory then a simple Alcatel one, it is not near as much as the price ratio. But people stand in line for them when the latest is to be released :palm: --- End quote --- Both of the iPhones I've owned were the previous year's model on closeout so they were actually quite reasonably priced. I have a handful of Android devices and find the Apple stuff to be much more polished although that's not to say they are without fault. With only two viable choices for smartphone platform it's a matter of picking the one I dislike least. There are a lot of things I don't like about the modern Apple computers too, although the one my employer issued me has worked well, the choice of hardware is far too limited for me to consider spending my own money on. If not for the direction Microsoft has taken Windows I wouldn't even have looked at the Mac. I quite like Windows 7 even to this day but I can't stand any of their newer offerings. This is going a bit off topic though. Now as far as Jobs, when he was alive I couldn't stand the guy, but after he died Apple really lost their way and product design suffered for a while. iOS 7 had an ugly and inconsistent UI and the latest still has not reached the level of visual polish that the older stuff had. Idiotic design choices like notches in the displays of phones and even laptops Jobs would never have tolerated. He was a jerk, but his obsession and attention to detail showed in the product line. Even still the trackpads on Apple laptops while comically huge, work much better than any other that I've used. I don't know if it's hardware or software that holds the secret sauce but they got it dialed in just right. |
| vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on September 23, 2022, 05:22:04 am --- However, if you do become critical about "big guns" –– regardless of whether we are talking about engineers, businessmen, political leaders, religions, nations, ideologies, ideas, or scientists –– be careful of who hears you voicing those criticisms. Humans are very keen about the brands they care about, and will instinctively stab you in the back and try to destroy you if given half a chance, if they feel you threaten their beloved brands. I cannot help but voice them out (a personality flaw), and you can see in at least one recent thread how that makes many otherwise rational and intelligent members here react. So, beware. --- End quote --- As I have said on other occasions, it is perilously easy to make deadly enemies on the Internet by disagreeing with someone's ideas, or suggesting that the "guru" they quote in support of their position just might have "feet of clay". This even happens on this forum, & when it does, I have tried to just leave the discussion when I detect indignation building in one or more posters----it's sometimes hard, though! |
| wraper:
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 24, 2022, 06:30:16 am ---Let me share some anonymous quotes of recent outings here about a certain person being criticized. To me that shows a bit to much of putting the guy on a pedestal. Or having a severe man crush. Just read the thread it provided these. I have pointed to it somewhere back in this thread. It is not as bad as these quotes make it to be. At least not in my perception. --- End quote --- To me it was rather a response to unjustified bashing and name calling of a person Nominal Animal had no idea about whatsoever, but respected by other who gave that response. One thing is justified criticism, name calling with no idea about the person is entirely different. IMHO it's calling out BS, rather than being a butthurt fanboy. |
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