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| aqarwaen:
my question is,why don't phone manufacturers make deliberately phone repairs harder for profit? with this I mean scratching all chip markings. covering all electronic with export and gunk to make repairs even harder. instead regular chip packages manufacturers would start using cob,to make repairs even harder. I wonder why phone manufacturers like Apple,Samsung don't do it so less people would even try reapir their and instead buy new phone.in the end it would mean more profit for phone manufacturers if they taken such measures to prevent devices. |
| Ranayna:
Component level repair on modern phones is virtually not done at all. The chips are highly integrated proprietary components anyway, you will not be able to get legitimate replacements. You may get them used, but the major chips, at least on apple phones, have serial numbers that need to be verified by apple. You cannot just swap a chip and expect the phone to work. So there is no reason to wipe off part numbers. A replacement will not work anyway. And for less integrated stuff wiping off part numbers may delay reverse engineering, but will not stop dedicated attempts. So it would be an additional process step that needs to be paid for that has little benefit. As a manufacturer, you might also want to be able to repair stuff yourself. If you gunk up the phones, replacement is the only option, often way more expensive than module swap for, say, a broken camera. And again, gunk costs money ;) For Apple devices, the replacement modules are fully under control of Apple. For the longest time it was absolutely impossible to get genuine Apple replacement parts. And third party parts are often deliberately crippled, since they fail the DRM security checks. You can now get genuine Apple parts. For a similar price as that repair would cost at an Apple store. So disregarding logistics cost, Apple may make more money on a part than on a repair. And finally, there is still some kind of reputation attached to repairability. That may not be important to many customers, but for some it is important. And there are increasing demands to essentially outlaw deliberate attempts to make repairs more difficult or impossible. |
| coppercone2:
lol factory with no part ID they did this kind of crap when electricity was new, the government got involved. tons of conspiracies related to power line frequencies, light bulb types and connectors all getting proprietary. they realized its bad for a nation. this equipment being cheap, available and known assists in the functioning of the economy. It also has to do with the public trusting a system. how much of a burden is 50/60 hz and voltage levels in different countries to exports ? those scars run deep |
| IanB:
--- Quote from: aqarwaen on October 06, 2022, 11:50:45 am ---my question is,why don't phone manufacturers make deliberately phone repairs harder for profit? --- End quote --- What planet have you been living on for the past several years? Take two brand new identical phones and swap a part from one phone to the other. The swapped part won't work in the other phone, even though it is the identical genuine part. Your question is wrong. It is not "why don't they?", it is "why do they?", because obviously they do. Scratching chip markings or covering with gunk has no relevance to modern electronics. It was never a sensible idea anyway. |
| Infraviolet:
"how much of a burden is 50/60 hz and voltage levels in different countries to exports ?" Minimal a burden thesedays, because most devices thesedays have a transformer based power supply which can take any plausible voltage or frequency (either by a switch between modes or automatically) which then supplies the low voltages (24/12/5/3.3V) that the device actually uses internally. |
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